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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.87767096 BTC to 321`519 shares, 584 satoshi per share
herbijudlestoids: if i had say a year worth of EOD data could scatterplot daily returns against short term vols to see the relationship etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54699993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19322 @ 0.00089744 = 17.3403 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54699994 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056931 = 0.148 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 422 @ 0.00552412 = 2.3312 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0054 = 0.4212 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5448441 = 1.0897 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.005338 = 0.1495 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54484284 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.54484311 = 2.1794 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: wait, so the guy got scammed ?!
Apocalyptic: by the almighty serbian scammer
asciilifeform: it takes two to 'scamgo.'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.545 = 2.725 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: iiiincredible.
mircea_popescu: so some dude just made more in half an hour than his room mate makes in a year.
mircea_popescu: thank you bitcoin community, you are really helping to make the world a better place.
KRS1: does a great job by helping the scum float to the top.
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/b3b451526b36c461256b93216a70a44b/tumblr_mhpfg9rNk21rln4dzo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: "thanks for the gf, cya"
KRS1: Wonder where they just came home from.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i made a quick graph from the data i logged last night, distribution of tick returns
herbijudlestoids: dunno if you saw it or not http://i.imgur.com/CkJ5kA8.png
mircea_popescu: i hadn't
herbijudlestoids: interesting skew formation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 67 @ 0.5469104 = 36.643 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: not exactly a large sample size
herbijudlestoids: thats for MPOE
mircea_popescu: yeah kinda... not much there yet
herbijudlestoids: i refined some stuff this morning on examining the data and will write some scriptage tonight probly, all thanks to access to free data ;)
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.msg4827362#msg4827362 who is this guy anyway, is he here ?
ozbot: Ripped OFF by bitbet.us
mircea_popescu: kayser soze anyone ?
Apocalyptic: again some "bitbet scammed me" thread ?
kakobrekla: not scam as such.
mircea_popescu: "bitbet scammed me by sending my winnings to the address i paid from as i told it to"
mike_c: i figured that was one of your sock puppets. those scam threads are good for business :)
mircea_popescu: i never had sock puppets
mircea_popescu: i guess by now this is improbable, perhaps i'm the last one, but anyway, mpoe-pr is actually my only forum thing
mike_c: yeah. i was kidding. except about the good for business part.
mircea_popescu: i guess the original one was, but i doubt further roflcopter does anything really.
mircea_popescu: who knows.
mircea_popescu: sucks this can't really be a/b'd
herbijudlestoids: lunchtiem
herbijudlestoids: banh mih for $3.50 :)
mircea_popescu: i just did the math. the bitbet scammed me dude actually bet... about a dollar,
mircea_popescu: and lost about 0.7 cents to the low weight.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the shills/socks are actually paid less than this to start threads/make posts.
mircea_popescu: he
mircea_popescu: s got like > 100 words in there.
mircea_popescu: the entire fucking forum is worth like fiddy bitcoin at these rates. all 500k threads of it.
herbijudlestoids: doesnt it say the bet was 0.011BTC? i.e. 0.011 * ~1000 ~= 11USD? or was this when the price was lower, he says it was when th eprice was higher lol
mircea_popescu: a wait you're right, i had a degree of magnitude off.
herbijudlestoids: bro u scamd me out of 11USD
mircea_popescu: he lost 7 cents to the low weight. i guess tis legitimate.
herbijudlestoids: most people are shit at betting and will lose their money anyway regardless of scams
mircea_popescu: some people make out alright
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15828 @ 0.00089436 = 14.1559 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.028 = 0.168 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: http://dpaste.com/1576267/plain/
kakobrekla: there is a lesson somewhere in there
kakobrekla: and yes, i am reading the fidonet email gateway faq
mircea_popescu: i regularly throw out bits of software or hardware whose function i don't understand.
mircea_popescu: not doing so is immoral in my view, so there.
Duffer1: I'm gonna make Hodor coin
Duffer1: brb
herbijudlestoids: http://imgur.com/gallery/tpjF8Lj
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Duffer1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4luHEVjqKA
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm curious about the hardware
mircea_popescu: of all the various items around me right now, none carry labels, for instance.
asciilifeform: why would they be labeled?
pankkake: brands?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: but somehow it became fashionable of late.
asciilifeform: 'intel inside' and 'designed for winblows' stickers look great on toilet tanks
asciilifeform: assuming you meant those
mircea_popescu: i mean everything, really.
asciilifeform: what's your answer to silkscreened print? 'dremel' ? or belt sander
mircea_popescu: i don't recall buying silkscreened shit any time recently.
asciilifeform: e.g. logo on mice, keyboards
Duffer1: "In your progress report of November 30th 2013 you stated "We have this last week shipped our first products to customers." - What product was shipped?"
Duffer1: Kslaughter: We shipped some accessories products to India.
kakobrekla: eh who cares for that shit
pankkake: lol
kakobrekla: as long as its not hugo boss
kakobrekla: im talking labels
mircea_popescu: my kbd came w/o a logo. so did the mouse.
kakobrekla: my brain ignores it
kakobrekla: just like i do not see assbot quotes any more
kakobrekla: they are there, i just dont see them
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I find sugar cubes work well removing silkscreen from hard plastics.
pankkake: keyboard has no logo but I want to replace the win keys by penguins or something. the mouse has a discreet logo… but I've seen the new version, the brand is illuminated :/ https://secure-b.vimeocdn.com/ts/132/730/132730099_640.jpg
mircea_popescu: i don't have a win key either.
kakobrekla: for example, i still have stickers on my lappy, yes they are ugly and yes couldnt care less
asciilifeform: i know of no decent keyboard with a winblows key
mircea_popescu: a laptop is another good example, all sorts of shit to excise in there.
pankkake: hm, you made me realize, I have environmentalist propaganda on my monitor
kakobrekla: you people are such girls.
pankkake: asciilifeform: http://webwit.nl/kbc60/1.jpg
mircea_popescu: nou
asciilifeform: a laptop remains 'satanic' regardless of what one might do to it
kakobrekla: girls i say.
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg4830999#msg4830999
ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
herbijudlestoids: http://www.cogmed.com/working-memory-they-found-your-brain%E2%80%99s-spam-filter
Duffer1: ^ ken's pretty much coming clean
asciilifeform: pankkake: 'happy hacking kbd' ?
asciilifeform: has no arrows or f keys either
asciilifeform: why anyone voluntarily uses those is beyond me
mircea_popescu: lmao the slaughter lol is still a thing ?!
pankkake: cheap chinese clone :)
herbijudlestoids: "Importantly, McNab and Klingberg found that the jump in activity levels in these areas was largest for high capacity individuals and smallest for low capacity individuals. That is, when told that they needed to filter, the high-capacity individuals ramped up activity in these brain regions to keep out irrelevant items. By contrast, the low-capacity individuals showed little additional activity in these areas when
Duffer1: it's lulzier than ever MP
pankkake: the fact that it's still a thing, and that the shareholder let it happen is sad :(
mircea_popescu: pankkake you need to re-read the log earlier.
Duffer1: poor gecko :(
mircea_popescu: " In September with bitcoins @ 140, with competition with 400 GH/s and 500 GH/s chips our machines would not ROI, so a decision was made that we would have to refund all of our pre-orders, so we did not commit a lot of our funds to building boards, we was also trying to get enough pre-orders to make our minimum lot with eASIC."
mircea_popescu: the september decision retrospectively made in january.
mircea_popescu: how did that go, "can't spell = scammer" ?
pankkake: asciilifeform: I don't like to move my hands, I'd rather use Fn+something. and vim hotkeys make arrow keys redundant
kakobrekla: hey i cant spell and im not .. a... nvm.
Duffer1: i like this bit: Ken mentioned additional hashrate came online in November, what machines were those?
Duffer1: CEX.IO
pankkake: kslaugther makes spelling error and weird Capitalizations
pankkake: errors
pankkake: in his sockpuppets also
mircea_popescu: well since scammers never die / "investors" are fucktarded, is inaba still a thing too ?
pankkake: Duffer1: wow at the cex.io stuff. that's… wow
kakobrekla: wait im not following all this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0489999 = 0.392 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: its too complicated
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla speal bettur.
Duffer1: oh i'm sure inaba is still making the rounds at bitcoin conferences
kakobrekla: i cunt.
mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2c3801273c7e205aaa3fce2415bcc76/tumblr_miripmvKLR1ru15g3o1_500.jpg speaking of.
kakobrekla: pankkake why is cex shocking
kakobrekla: where is the wow
pankkake: the guy isn't supposed to trade company funds on that kind of stuff
pankkake: he's supposed to make miners
kakobrekla: a, that little part.
pankkake: it made billions of posts speculating on sample chips and the guy said nothing for months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00086 = 0.258 BTC [+]
Duffer1: looks like he did what labcoin did, spent ipo money on retail gear to fake progress on their own proprietary stuff, then lied about it, a lot
asciilifeform: pankkake: no pg-up/down keys either. do you also wear a barrel instead of clothing?
mircea_popescu: d'oh.
kakobrekla: so fury got the money on the end.
kakobrekla: well done
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's french. they evolved past clothing, they just wear their hair.
Duffer1: lol
pankkake: page up/down is a bit frustrating, though for vim and firefox I use other keys
pankkake: well I am hairy, pretty much a caveman
asciilifeform: pankkake: you can carry the happyhacking thing to its logical conclusion:
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/mwemu/mwemu.html
ozbot: MwEmu
asciilifeform: 6 keys.
pankkake: I've been wanting to try similar things
pankkake: there's also a sort of glove where each finger can move in a direction
asciilifeform: you can try it right there
mircea_popescu: should be on left hand
mircea_popescu: so he can still jack off
pankkake: I am left handed
mircea_popescu: a nm then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doug engelbart's original chorder was left-hand.
asciilifeform: or rather, symmetrical, but intended for left hand.
asciilifeform: right hand held his (original!) mouse
asciilifeform: and a kbd in the middle, for times when it couldn't be avoided.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/mw/motd_ui.jpg
asciilifeform: full turd here:
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861
ozbot: Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin
Duffer1: the forums are on fire tonight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=439399.0
kakobrekla: look, no branding.
kakobrekla: great for girls.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: if i recall, he machined those
asciilifeform: perhaps true masters ought to make their own i/o devices.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 508 @ 0.00083145 = 0.4224 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00089432 = 17.0815 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i would have built my own keyboard long ago, if i had any way to produce the key caps.
asciilifeform: other components (buckling springs, controller, chassis) can be sourced or laser cut
asciilifeform: but key caps, afaik, must be injection-molded to be of any usable quality.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00089423 = 0.9837 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: likewise the shafts in which they move
kakobrekla: cant you scavage them?
asciilifeform: (tolerance ~0.1mm, like a rifle chamber)
asciilifeform: if you scavenge, you're stuck with the original key labels
asciilifeform: and yes, who doesn't own a fat sack full of 'model M' key caps
kakobrekla: you dont need a fat sack for yourself do you
mircea_popescu: so hire a secretary, make her type random strings for half a year
asciilifeform: sure ya do. when one's in the wash.
mircea_popescu: cheap chinese caps, the paint wears off
asciilifeform: injection-molded. 1982, still going strong.
asciilifeform: the black is the inner plastic.
mircea_popescu: o those
mircea_popescu: weird fucking plastic, the white shit too. bachelite or something
asciilifeform: re: secretary: why would you do that to your springs.
asciilifeform: if i ever do make a keyboard, i'll probably machine the mechanicals from aluminum.
kakobrekla: well so you need 2
kakobrekla: still not a fat sack
asciilifeform: if doing something, might as well do it right
pankkake: http://web.archive.org/web/20070114050531/http://tim.griffins.ca/gallery/keyboard/DataHand.html found it!
ozbot: Alternative Keyboard Gallery: DataHand Keyboard
mircea_popescu: well then machine them from rhenium
kakobrekla: good for startrek remake
mircea_popescu: glow in the dark!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can machine pyrophorics in your kitchen, i'll pass.
mircea_popescu: :D
asciilifeform: no room in 'garconierre' for argon tanks.
herbijudlestoids: http://imgur.com/gallery/uyiRuTZ
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mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg4819875#msg4819875
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mircea_popescu: split ?
mircea_popescu: also, check it out : usagi teh hero. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228327.msg4830292#msg4830292
pankkake: yeah… :|
pankkake: but still, Deprived disappeared
kakobrekla: he took with off wit the monies?
kakobrekla: im so out of the loop.
Apocalyptic: i'm too
mircea_popescu: a while back.
kakobrekla: how much?
Apocalyptic: I considered him as one of the more legit guys out there
Duffer1: he hasn't been since late november
kakobrekla: i mean
kakobrekla: how much did he get away with
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic so did i, until i offered him i don't remember what and he got all shady and shy.
mircea_popescu: at which point i stopped.
Apocalyptic: hum
ThickAsThieves: i voice-chatted with him once
ThickAsThieves: cheerful brit
ThickAsThieves: he had plans for more products
kakobrekla: somali using britafy app
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is that all the irresponsible gecko shit going around puts a lot of stress on otherwise honest people, i wager.
ThickAsThieves: odd he took off
pankkake: unless he got hit by a bus
ThickAsThieves: technically,
Duffer1: ya i don't think anyone saw that one coming
kakobrekla: that bus or?
ThickAsThieves: he said he wouldnt post til he had something to post
ThickAsThieves: and nothing has changed yet
ThickAsThieves: ciphertrade is not open yet, which is where he intended to do biz
mircea_popescu: what, THAT still a thing ?
ThickAsThieves: yep
kakobrekla: but whoresandstuff.com is open
Duffer1: he's also on CT board and probably an investor in it
kakobrekla: he can list there
mircea_popescu: dude, are these muppets investing in bcst or w/e still ?
ThickAsThieves: they are in "open beta"
Duffer1: ciphertrade, for better or worse (much worse), is the next batter to step up to the plate
kakobrekla: link?
ThickAsThieves: batter, like the kind you put on chicken
mircea_popescu: lol pancakes!
Duffer1: kako https://beta.ciphertrade.com/
Duffer1: and the discussion thread https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=7176.0
kakobrekla: and the ops are in merrica rite?
Duffer1: london mainly
Duffer1: or there abouts
kakobrekla: at least that.
Apocalyptic: hum, they seem to be doing LTC/BTC and XPM/BTC too
Dimsler_: lol
Duffer1: i believe they plan assets + currency exchange
Dimsler_: all these exchanges popping
kakobrekla: pooping?
Apocalyptic: ^
Dimsler_: oh yeah those look totally legit
Dimsler_: let me send 100btc
Apocalyptic: you can turn off caps lock too
mircea_popescu: * kakobrekla casts a slanderous spell upon the happy investoland
Dimsler_: these guys are retards
Dimsler_: not using any exchanges based in an OECD country
Apocalyptic: that's kinda extremist
Duffer1: i'm just the messenger, please don't shoot
Diablo-D3: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7148723
kakobrekla: it only works if you belive it mp
Diablo-D3: everyone upvote this
Dimsler_: yeah talk to some mtgox guys
Dimsler_: then
ThickAsThieves: the deprived mining copycat thing on Havelock appears to be almost open for trading
Dimsler_: if you think its extremist
mircea_popescu: so basically this leaves... romania ?
kakobrekla: slovenia
mircea_popescu: japan is in the oecd
mircea_popescu: slovenia doesn't exist.
Dimsler_: lol slovenia is a spit on the map
Dimsler_: bunch of clowns who can't get along
kakobrekla: yeah and kayman islands are twice the size of merrica
mircea_popescu: see ? kant spell cayman
Diablo-D3: its a tool to detect if your vps company is lying to you
kakobrekla: we
Dimsler_: well the carribean is all false as well
Dimsler_: if you want real security you need something like hongkong
mircea_popescu: also cant spell vhatewer
Dimsler_: where if the US authorities call they hang up the phone
mircea_popescu: and chinese ?
Dimsler_: actually best plac eis probably russia
Dimsler_: no extradition treaty
Dimsler_: low income tax on high gains
kakobrekla: no russia, slovenia.
Dimsler_: man i'm not going anywhere near yugoslavia
Dimsler_: those people are fucked in the head
kakobrekla: ....
mircea_popescu: was slovenia in the old yugoslavia ?!
Dimsler_: croatia is nice for a coast line vacation
kakobrekla: was it not!?
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: things, my company is making them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=439618.new :)
asciilifeform: detecting VM is very, very easy.
Dimsler_: mircea_popescu, you might be confused with slovakia
mircea_popescu: they're different ?!
Dimsler_: lol quit trolling
kakobrekla: fuck all of you.
Dimsler_: slovakia has nice driving roads
mircea_popescu: Azelphur what exactly are you doing there ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aww you know we love you
Apocalyptic: slovakia ftw
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: title is technical director, basically I do web dev / anything tech I can do, while being a big-ass cash cow.
Dimsler_: bitex is a cash cow?
Dimsler_: lol
mircea_popescu: so basicallyh you're being the sucker in this deal.
Azelphur: no, I am xD
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: hopefully not ;)
mircea_popescu: who told that aldur derp that december 2012 qualifies as "long term" ?
Dimsler_: listen guys
Dimsler_: we nee da new MLM
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I've known him way longer
Dimsler_: now that everyone forgot about pirate
Azelphur: we've been friends (irl) for years
asciilifeform: https://github.com/kaniini/slabbed-or-not sucks, easily defeated.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129961.msg1394808#msg1394808
mircea_popescu: stupidest first post in history of stupid first posts.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, gl etc.
Dimsler_: lol the bitcoin foundation is dangerous
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: haha, he's finance not technology :)
Dimsler_: i'm worried about the doing something stupid like blacklisting address'
Azelphur: so he thinks in terms of the financial industry :)
Dimsler_: dangerous group of people
mircea_popescu: Azelphur he's clueless. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2Ft1%2F264557_227871904003610_1955021226_n.jpg&t=536&c=G_exZJuL6gxbpQ << srsly ?!
asciilifeform: Dimsler_: the sooner the phoundation 'shoots itself' in the head, rather than in the foot as usual, the better.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: perhaps, but our FPGA engineer isn't (I picked the engineer myself)
Dimsler_: well in the end i don't really give a shit what happens in america
Dimsler_: since its a small and insignificant place
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, no, its current zombie/laughingstock state is useful. much like the power rangers.
mircea_popescu: they absorb shocks
Dimsler_: lol
Dimsler_: well they dragged shrem away
Dimsler_: for loundering
Dimsler_: er laundering
Dimsler_: which the charges themselves are hilarious
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: can't get much more skilled than this, no? http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/glendon-klassen/87/5b4/30 ;)
mircea_popescu: Azelphur alright, just bear it foremost in your mind that a bunch of people ended up swindled to lend their credence to idiotic nonprojects by random wanna-be "experts" to date.
mircea_popescu: so don't become another.
Dimsler_: oh you guys
Dimsler_: i love this new idiot
Dimsler_: vitalik
Dimsler_: or whatever
Dimsler_: the bitcoin magazine clown
mircea_popescu: he's by no means new.
Dimsler_: well in 2012 he was buying btc off my exchange
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: yea, I realise that, and it's something I worry about, but I am heavily involved, and I have sunk a lot of time and money into it
ThickAsThieves: he's not an idiot, he's a "hacker"
Dimsler_: lol hes new to me
mircea_popescu: Azelphur these are not considerations.
Dimsler_: vitalik is a moron
Azelphur: so hopefully all will go well :)
Dimsler_: that has no idea about economics or cryptography
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: oh, you know we already have functional hardware right? :P
Dimsler_: Azelphur, take your fucking scam else where
mircea_popescu: that's fine, but the amount of time/effort sunk into anything has no bearing. you drop a hand of cards when you know they can't win, not when you're comfortable with how much you threw into the pot.
kakobrekla: that dude has "webdev" on his linkedin. -10 internet points.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ what's with you anyway
Apocalyptic: Dimsler_, http://ethereum.org/
Apocalyptic: his new project
Dimsler_: lol sorry
Dimsler_: i'm hating today
kakobrekla: Dimsler_ serbia is hating back
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.004072 = 0.1018 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: there'll never be a bitcoin 2.0 because all the cries of wolf
Dimsler_: i saw the ethereum project, its got more holes then the block of swiss cheese in my fridge
Azelphur: Dimsler_: haha, with my otc rep, it'd have to be one hell of a long con
mircea_popescu: o so i get it now, slovenia is not slovakia because it is in fact the other name for serbia ?
Apocalyptic: ^
Dimsler_: i could use a vacation in croatia
kakobrekla: is this how is going to end? country trolling?
mircea_popescu: Azelphur that's not the point, the point is that you wouldn't be the first guy used for his rep.
Dimsler_: the french riveria got expensive lately
Dimsler_: cause the euro got raped
Dimsler_: er
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15833 @ 0.00089401 = 14.1549 BTC [-] {2}
Dimsler_: usd to euro rape
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: yea, I agree, it's a risk.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
asciilifeform: altera cyclone V GX
Dimsler_: Azelphur, list on mpex so we can pump and dump it?
asciilifeform: max ALUs - 113,560
Azelphur: Dimsler_: haha :)
asciilifeform: max clock: 550MHz
asciilifeform: http://www.altera.com/literature/hb/cyclone-v/cv_51001.pdf
asciilifeform: tell us again about 10GH/sec SHA256.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I reckon we'll do fine though, at the end of the day we have the thing and it's hashing right now, so we've already won really
Azelphur: even if 0 preorders and nobody buys, we'll just mine on it and laugh.
Dimsler_: why don't you just mine on it now
mircea_popescu: so if you already have the thing and it hashes why is your "finance industry" pal posting stuff david thorpe designed ?
Azelphur: Dimsler_: we are
mircea_popescu: thorne*
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: posting pictures of an altera dev kit is hardly amazing/interesting
kakobrekla: ^^
kakobrekla: assbot has it
asciilifeform: speaking of which,
asciilifeform: http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&CategoryNo=167&No=830
mircea_popescu: according to who, the finance industry ? cmon.
Azelphur: but you do have a point, I could get our FPGA guy to post some stuff
Azelphur: yea, I'll bug him about it :P
asciilifeform: $180.
mircea_popescu: anything is better than a 640px wide picture of six green lines
asciilifeform: for anyone who has these same fit-ten-pounds-of-shit-in-a-five-pound-bag skillz.
mircea_popescu: Azelphur so your product you've won with is a fpga ?!
asciilifeform: 'those who refuse to do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense.'
kakobrekla: 100 btc aint gonna make asics
kakobrekla: not yet at least.
Dimsler_: lol
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: seems so, ain't many decent FPGAs out there for altcoins
Azelphur: seemed like a good niche
mircea_popescu: aha.
Dimsler_: alt coins suck
Dimsler_: theres no prize for second place ok
Dimsler_: charles lee knows this first hand
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: and hopefully won't get me thrown in jail, haha
mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ actually miners may make a buck out of all the retarded kids who think a bigger number of coins is better.
Dimsler_: mmm 81 million litecoins
Dimsler_: must have cryptocurrncy with billions of coins
mircea_popescu: then they can get scammed out of fiddy billion coins at a time instead of .5
Duffer1: azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners?
Azelphur: Duffer1: hell no, the sha256 is mostly for shits and giggles
Azelphur: the main targets are scrypt and prime
Duffer1: BitEx M2 coin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.59993737 = 4.7995 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla: <Duffer1> azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners?
kakobrekla: all sha alts can be mined on asic afaik
Dimsler_: alt currencies = modern day boiler room
Dimsler_: like i get satoshi premining himself the 1mil in coins
Dimsler_: because he deserved something for the smart scheme
Duffer1: ya kako lol that's what i was trying to point out :P
Dimsler_: but charles lee is just a fag that offers nothing
Dimsler_: same applies to the rest of the crypto alt clowns premining themselves coins
mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ he didn't even premine it.
Dimsler_: yeah i know
Dimsler_: lol
Azelphur: Duffer1: our number theory guy really wanted to try his hand at a new alt :)
Azelphur: and baring in mind he's pretty much perfectly qualified (number theory / fpga) it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with
Duffer1: tell him to be honest with himself and just name it Hodor Coin
Azelphur: :P
Dimsler_: lol new alt
Azelphur: I can probably drag him in here, if ya'll are interested.
Dimsler_: no
Duffer1: that would be fascinating
Dimsler_: no it would not quit trolling the guy
Azelphur: lol
Duffer1: what's the six month plan for bitex?
Dimsler_: its the i'll take all your money and in six months i'll be gone plan
asciilifeform: recipe for those disinclined to be chumped: 1) read published (3 yrs +) verilog src for sha256. 2) build. 3) see minimum gate count for unrolled hasher 4) laugh
Apocalyptic: seriously Dimsler_ wtf
asciilifeform: and this is the ideal figure - does not include memory controller, scrypt crap...
Azelphur: Duffer1: get the FPGAs out, work on new cores, we're also thinking of doing some bitcoin commerce
Azelphur: Dimsler_: would be hard considering there's no way to give us your money yet ;)
kakobrekla: its like all in one shaman stop
Duffer1: bitcoin commerce?
Dimsler_: kakobrekla, lol
Azelphur: Duffer1: yea, ie setting up a reasonably well stocked computer store
Azelphur: there doesn't seem to be anyone doing that in UK
Dimsler_: now a computer store?
Dimsler_: honestly great buisness plan
Apocalyptic: "this will be our temporary home while we setup our IRC server", Azelphur why would you setup your own IRC server for 1 channel ?
Azelphur: that's one of my things I'd like to work on in the future, he asked for the 6 month plan, which goes beyond the FPGA ;)
Azelphur: Apocalyptic: that'd be Oliver not listening to me again when I told him no IRC server
Azelphur: he fails at listening sometimes :(
Apocalyptic: sounds like a waste of time to setup and manage it
Azelphur: yup
Azelphur: and an annoyance to the users
Azelphur: it won't happen, it'll stay on freenode :P
Duffer1: freenode4life
Azelphur: ^
Apocalyptic: *4lyfe
Dimsler_: lol
Dimsler_: goo efnet
Dimsler_: Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Dimsler_: - Mark Twain
Duffer1: dimsler_ what's your exchange?
Dimsler_: i run a locablbitcoins one
Duffer1: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7612 @ 0.00089445 = 6.8086 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3261 @ 0.00089601 = 2.9219 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: <Ken`> Vitalik Buterin?
Apocalyptic: <jcorgan> yes
Apocalyptic: <Ken`> yep.. he seems smart
Apocalyptic: derp
Dimsler_: LOL
Dimsler_: let me eat there lunches for them
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you got a point, I remove the logo from bitbet completely, agreed?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: remove the "got milk" at least
Diablo-D3: >vitalik buterin
Diablo-D3: why does he sound like a russian dietary supplement
ThickAsThieves: a man with a dreams
kakobrekla: but milk is not a scammer
Dimsler_: lol hes like amir taaki
Dimsler_: sold all his btc for a pizza
Dimsler_: aren't thye both now squating in some slum in spain?
Dimsler_: pretending that dark wallet is going to come out of alpha?
kakobrekla: amir sold btc for pizza?
Dimsler_: no it was a joke
herbijudlestoids: http://boingboing.net/2014/01/29/key-3d-printing-patent-expired.html
Dimsler_: but he got out early
ozbot: Key 3D printing patent expired yesterday - Boing Boing
Dimsler_: at like $5
Dimsler_: so did vitalik
kakobrekla: really?
Dimsler_: i believe vitalik admitted to buying tshirts
Dimsler_: yes
Dimsler_: both of those clowns are broke
Dimsler_: both junkies too
Dimsler_: watch there hilarious youtube vids man, amir taaki has the shakes
kakobrekla: i know his vids.
kakobrekla: too much.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00089667 = 8.2494 BTC [+]
diametric: herbijudlestoids: I wouldn't really call that a key patent.
diametric: that article is poorly written too.
diametric: The SLS process has nothing to do with the cost of nylon (or any) powders..
diametric: Thats like saying the patent on Ford engines has increased the cost of gasoline.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.00086058 = 1.7212 BTC [+] {6}
herbijudlestoids: diametric: im not a 3d printing expert sorry :( just sharing the occasional link i think others might find interesting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.00084003 = 2.5201 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1007 @ 0.00084 = 0.8459 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.601 = 1.202 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.56101902 = 2.2441 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00089667 = 4.1247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0489999 = 1.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2908 @ 0.00089706 = 2.6087 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00089795 = 4.8489 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0489999 = 1.127 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0489999 = 0.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00089706 = 18.7037 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3193 @ 0.00007755 = 0.2476 BTC [-] {29}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00007 = 0.56 BTC [-]
gecko_x2: sup :p
herbijudlestoids: snb :b
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0004805 = 0.4805 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1628 @ 0.00007 = 0.114 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59496956 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59496956 = 1.1899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59496966 = 1.7849 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.049 = 0.882 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59498964 = 2.38 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: .d
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1081 blocks | Estimated Change: 11.6905% in 6d 15h 3m 41s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59498963 = 1.785 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00283975 = 0.284 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3586 @ 0.0008973 = 3.2177 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.59499313 = 17.2548 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00571479 = 0.4629 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00574599 = 0.3333 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02751003 = 0.2751 BTC [-] {2}
herbijudlestoids: whos around
herbijudlestoids: credit cards have versible transactions, bitcoins dont. sometimes reversible transactions are provably useful, and arguably go to consumer piece of mind...discuss
herbijudlestoids: is there space in the bitcoin ecomony for some kind of dispute arbitrage over payments?
herbijudlestoids: obviously theres 2 of 3 style transactions, is that adequate? escrowe?
herbijudlestoids: oh too late, already bitrated.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1134 @ 0.00009074 = 0.1029 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: http://porngram.sexualitics.org/?q=mother%2Csister%2Cbrother%2Cfather
ozbot: Porngram
Duffer1: hello
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.59 = 11.8 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: hi Puffer1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.601 = 17.429 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00089727 = 8.6138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8912 @ 0.00089864 = 8.0087 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00089706 = 8.2978 BTC [-]
KRS1: Ho
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol
Namworld: I think I sent an email inquiring about advertising on Bitbet a few months ago. Don't think I ever got an answer on that, come to think of it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02711112 = 0.244 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00574705 = 0.1724 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00575643 = 0.1151 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 500 @ 0.00327102 = 1.6355 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00545 = 0.1363 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00542714 = 0.2931 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Namworld that'd be the first time kakobrekla missed one.
mircea_popescu: https://sites.google.com/a/tcilgl.com/paracoin/ << anyone saw this ?
ozbot: paracoin
ThickAsThieves: note that google Sites allow an exploit to autofill hidden forms
mircea_popescu: if you run js.
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, something to do with keychain apps
mircea_popescu: you mean last year's chrome vuln ?
ThickAsThieves: no, the keychain app sees "google.com" in the url, and autofills the hidden form, then youre fed a poll or some such other "submit" button
ThickAsThieves: i may be getting the details wrong but that's the gist of it
mircea_popescu: aha
ThickAsThieves: not sure why paracoin is using goxprice tho
ThickAsThieves: isnt it time to finally cut the cord?
mircea_popescu: cause tvconf is a stubborn self-deluding old timer and etc.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437931.msg4838062#msg4838062 << mpoe-pr, aka cold ownage.
ozbot: Throw Charlie under the bus and wash your hands clean of your biggest advocate
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00166114 = 0.8306 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what a retarded thread
ThickAsThieves: some community...
Duffer1: i thought the luls were over for the night so i tried to sleep
Duffer1: couldn't sleep, now more luls
mircea_popescu: welcome to bitcoin, where the luls never cease.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's taaki's thread. what else'd it be
Neil: mircea_popescu: Likely it's been mentioned but bitbet is ~15 hrs behind the blockchain
ThickAsThieves: ah i was trying to suss who was taaki
ThickAsThieves: never knew his forum handle
mircea_popescu: it has ?
mircea_popescu: onoes. kakobrekla ! we're split!
ThickAsThieves: bet No on all the bets!
mircea_popescu: poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month
mircea_popescu: result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago
ThickAsThieves: taaki is just jealous he had no friends to throw him under a bus, and no bus headed in is direction
Neil: I don't think bitbet gives bettors their true time when it falls behind like this... which is kinda unfair
mircea_popescu: Neil i think it goes by block times
ThickAsThieves: if youre betting 15hours before close, youre probly doing it wrong
mircea_popescu: suppose you bet now. bitbet doesn't know.
Neil: mircea_popescu: I'm 90% sure it doesn't...
mircea_popescu: once the demon restarts and it discovers your bet, it takes the blockstam time.
mircea_popescu: o you are ?
mircea_popescu: well then thanks for bringing it up, shall be checked
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no but losing 15 hours of weight for no apparent reason hurts across the board
ThickAsThieves: word
mircea_popescu: anyway, genjix used to think himself important, back when bitcoin consisted of me, some decent programmers which mostly meanwhile left, and a bunch of fucktards, just like him
mircea_popescu: he felt like he's friends with "all of bitcoin", a few exceptions notwithstanding.
Duffer1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx4-KHwXOHk
ozbot: Penis Will Make You Slap Somebody (must see) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: meanwhile things like interscamgo have been laughed out of the space, and all he's left with is his expertise, which... you know. standup comedyt
ThickAsThieves: UK picks Open Document Format for all government files
Namworld: ...
Namworld: Okay, I'll say it. Who's genjix?
ThickAsThieves: next headline will be: Oracle Buys OpenOffice
mircea_popescu: ;;google amir taaki wikipedia
gribble: Amir Taaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taaki>; Amir Taaki Interview and #Bitcoin 2013 Wrap Up | Jupiter ...: <http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/37516/amir-taaki-bitcoin-2013-plan-b-7/>; Amir Taaki Answers Your Questions About Bitcoin - Slashdot: <http://interviews.slashdot.org/story/11/06/22/1737237/amir-taaki-answers-your-questions- (1 more message)
ThickAsThieves: he has a wiki
ThickAsThieves: hehe
Namworld: Ah, Amir
ThickAsThieves: he's Scottish-English Iranian
mircea_popescu: it's better than any uncyclopedia.
ThickAsThieves: he got kicked out of high school for hacking
mircea_popescu: aww shit, they ditched the sasquatch pic.
mircea_popescu: anyone know how to navigate wikipedia history ?
Namworld: ok, I'm out. It's 8 am. It's late.
ThickAsThieves: click View History
ThickAsThieves: ;)
ThickAsThieves: top right
ThickAsThieves: "You may be right, but you can't add negative information about living people to articles unless you have a high-quality source. Internet forums do not meet our definition of the term"
ThickAsThieves: "But it's allowed for positive information? "
ThickAsThieves: lol
truffles: -assets seems to dislike ppl i like woot
mircea_popescu: makes sense tho, if you didn't let random doofus self-report all the nice stuff they think about themselves
mircea_popescu: the butthurt would cover wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: truffles that's because you're an idiot.
truffles: umk
truffles: ure a small dick
ThickAsThieves: oh no he ditnt!
davout: tumbleweed.wav
mircea_popescu: it's not that small.
truffles: well it might as well be
truffles: u try so hard to be the big dick though
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Amir_taaki.jpg
mircea_popescu: ty tat.
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema pula mea
gribble: The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/>; Wilcoxon tests for mean difference - Deakin University: <http://www.deakin.edu.au/buslaw/aef/workingpapers/papers/2011_6.pdf>; Stabilization Effects of Fiscal Policy in Croatia: <http://www.hnb.hr/dub- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: google u sux.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/
ozbot: NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
truffles: blog spam
ThickAsThieves: so what is Bitcoin Foundation's next move after resigning Shrem?
mircea_popescu: it makes a c0k big!
ThickAsThieves: something to help it's image right?
ThickAsThieves: “We are now witnessing the long-awaited arrival of mainstream online casinos into the bitcoin universe.”~Matonis
mircea_popescu: derp.
ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/legal-online-gambling-next-major-bitcoin-market/
mircea_popescu: i would bet the next move is some internal drama with someone leaving in a huff.
mircea_popescu: at least that's how it ususally works.
mircea_popescu: "He proposes a shift away from specialist thinking towards a creative society of generalist knowledge workers."
BingoBoingo: Maybe they will find out Vesseness has a bong? or Hearn?
mircea_popescu: ahahaa o gawdy, that wikipedia article rules.
mircea_popescu: Derplandia! An Utopian Future! by A. A. Fucktardaki
ThickAsThieves: a society of clay pot IPOs
ThickAsThieves: “We are not here to engage in a legal debate, we are here to serve up the very first legitimate workaround to the complex online gambling laws in this US market. We are returning to Americans their freedom to choose and giving them their power back!”
mircea_popescu: i wish this happened, seriously. if you could somehow get all the 20something derps their own fucking country...
mircea_popescu: god it would be so great.
mircea_popescu: in a decade or so we'd go on bimbo safari!
truffles: 20something men everywhere
truffles: sounds like a grand idead
mircea_popescu: men no, but bois and retarded girls, pretty much.
punkman1: mircea_popescu: you just need to build a big boat, they'll come willingly
truffles: lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "and we are conveniently forgetting to mention the other people who have been doing it for years and have much more volume than we everf had even in fiat"
mircea_popescu: "because business can in fact be built upon self-delusion!"
mircea_popescu: punkman1 yeah, but the problem is their parents wouldn't stay put.
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of sad, really.
ThickAsThieves: i like how he defines We Wanna Break the Law as "engage a legal debate"
mircea_popescu: afaik it's not actually illegal, is it ?
ThickAsThieves: in the US?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
ThickAsThieves: if it isnt it will be
truffles: TAT are u still with "the foundation"?
ThickAsThieves: i was never a part
mircea_popescu: wasn't it illegal to process payments ?
truffles: oh
ThickAsThieves: i contemplating joining one day
ThickAsThieves: then i didnt
mircea_popescu: one more can of paint you avoided stepping into.
ThickAsThieves: both feet are occupied anyway :)
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: so if I understand correctly, Cointerra is finally shipping. the 2nd batch of customers getting units along with the 1st batch. The machines are not to spec, but customers get a 15% coupon to buy more of them, as consolation. Refunds in fiat are allowed.
mircea_popescu: that's pretty stellar considering the industry standards.
ThickAsThieves: now that newegg and tigerdirect are selling bitcoin mining kits
ThickAsThieves: it seems a major manufacturer must be contemplating an ASIC soon
mircea_popescu: probably.
mircea_popescu: hopefully nvidia does it.
ThickAsThieves: they may be on a short leash for innovating after these portable gaming things fail
Namworld: Nvidia... miner...
Duffer1: i could see nvidia sha vs amd scrypt
mircea_popescu: manufacture a billion dollar's worth of 100 and 500 watt mining rigs, as stand alone boxes, doing whatever, 5 gh/watt, 2gh/dollar
Namworld: Nvidia Bitcoin Miner...
mircea_popescu: they have the foundries and the engineers to do it.
Namworld: Well one of them is bound to do it eventually
ThickAsThieves: Intel could do 14nm or such
mircea_popescu: amd, nvidia, intel, they can all do it.
Namworld: I mean, the piles of cash thrown at any random new bitcointalk.org user claiming to be developing an ASIC
mircea_popescu: even apple or amazon could do it, if they weren't fucktarded.
ThickAsThieves: or Samsung
punkman: why not AMD?
mircea_popescu: yeah, at least a dozen diff south korean/japanese/hk/etc producers could do it too
ThickAsThieves: AMD is most likely imo
mircea_popescu: punkman i said AMD!
punkman: oh I saw nvidia only
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : if any one was wondering if a wedding was ever made with the bridemaids in the buff : yes, it has. http://31.media.tumblr.com/26a90c55ec607f6fad54984ba75bd875/tumblr_mimvopGYAZ1ru15g3o1_500.jpg
ThickAsThieves: AMD didnt find a safe harbor in mobile
ThickAsThieves: they need another avenue
asciilifeform: if they weren't fucktarded, they'd do it 1) two years ago 2) embedded in run of unrelated IC, antifused out in consumer ver. 3) powered up silently 4) ip-proxied to look like 100,000 lamers with GPUs.
wao-ender: mm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no they wouldn't do that.
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: seems you have very intelligent police there http://www.mojevideo.sk/video/f8b5/policia_vs_dvere.html
Namworld: looks like a fun wedding
wao-ender: Politia is romanian afaik?
mircea_popescu: politia, yes.
mircea_popescu: can you summarize the vid ?
wao-ender: they can't open doors for 13 minutes.
mircea_popescu: lol
wao-ender: imho it should be great ad for vendor of secure doors.
mircea_popescu: romanian folklore/jokes usually has the cop as the dummy.
wao-ender: [AD] This door will resists Politia for 13 minutes!
asciilifeform: speaking of which
asciilifeform: http://nsa.gov1.info/
ozbot: The Domestic Surveillance Directorate
ThickAsThieves: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/new-3d-printer-by-markforged-can-print-with-carbon-fiber-16428727
ozbot: New 3D Printer by MarkForged Can Print With Carbon Fiber - Popular Mechanics
mircea_popescu: o wow.
ThickAsThieves: ideal for weapons, no?
Namworld: Finally, a printer suitable for those weapons 3d printing blueprint
ThickAsThieves: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."
asciilifeform: let's have /him/ fire with a barrel 'as strong as aluminum', we'll watch.
punkman: is Cody Wilson still doing the 3d-printed gun thing, or is it just Dark Wallets for him now
mircea_popescu: probably just reefer for him now.
mircea_popescu: aluminium is not really that strong, is it ?
mircea_popescu: did he mean duraluminium ?
punkman: there's strong aluminum
Namworld: Imma print myselft a carbon dane axe and a viking helmet (an historically accurate one without horns)
Namworld: Because fuck guns actually
ThickAsThieves: throwing stars and darts for me plz
mircea_popescu: i'll just order dildoes
mircea_popescu: because fuck your wooden horses
asciilifeform: working temperature of printer extruder. max temperature of chamber during firing.
ThickAsThieves: carbon fiber nunchuks!
asciilifeform: seriously, get a desktop CNC mill. it will make anything from a halberg to a schmeisser.
kakobrekla: Namworld, huh? can you tell me which email did you send from. i remember us talking via irc and i dont ignore emails.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but not by itself.
Namworld: "It even has a higher strength-to-weight ratio than CNC-machined aluminum."
Namworld: My god...
Namworld: One could do many things with such a printer
Namworld: I'm not sure kakobrekla
Namworld: I'm heading off. Doesn't matter for now anyway.
Namworld: Scrat hasn't been around in a while.
ThickAsThieves: impenetrable fortune cookies!
Namworld: Goodbye.
Namworld: TaT... that's a dickish prank.
Namworld: I like it.
ThickAsThieves: road spikes
Duffer1: you could just use a drill in a wood frame for desktop needs
ThickAsThieves: there's some fun
Duffer1: or a dremel
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago
kakobrekla: cause im doing it on hand.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Error: "bc,tslb" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 57 seconds
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 283212 | Current Difficulty: 2.193847870174279E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 284255 | Next Difficulty In: 1043 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2440229238.49 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.23056
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 254 @ 0.00271007 = 0.6884 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 548 @ 0.00271002 = 1.4851 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 847 @ 0.002701 = 2.2877 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00270101 = 0.1486 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00007266 = 0.1453 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2210 @ 0.00044457 = 0.9825 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62479999 = 1.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.049 = 1.96 BTC [+]
nubbins`: hi
kakobrekla: hi
nubbins`: i'm 32 today :0
kakobrekla: congrats
kakobrekla: many didnt make it this far.
nubbins`: i was about to say "no need, all i did was not die"
asciilifeform: happy bday nubbins`
nubbins`: but you've got a point :(
kakobrekla: hehe
nubbins`: tyvm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02947999 = 0.2948 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: sooo... obama to congress "you're fired". congress gives standing ovation.
mircea_popescu: that country is turning into the fucking bitcointalk of politics, i swear.
mircea_popescu: mostly notable for the comedic relief.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00089908 = 6.0238 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/gxCPkxMN
ozbot: NYDFS Department of Financial Services live meeting on the 28th (today?) and 29 - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: if someone still wanted a transcript of the dfs retardation.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02989915 = 0.1196 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Oh, so much missing from that paste.
mircea_popescu: well yes, it's only a few pages.
BingoBoingo: Doesn't even cover the interesting points. Doesn't even seem to make it past to the first pannel to get to the LTC and VanCleef woman going full Amir
mircea_popescu: well... got a full transcript anywhere ?
BingoBoingo: I've got a bunch of notes on notebook paper I'll prolly move online next week. Going to watch the hearings again to make sure nothing especially lulzy was missed.
mircea_popescu: well you know, if you're gonna do a complete one do a complete one
BingoBoingo: http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/hearing/vc_01282014_indx.htm
mircea_popescu: that's not a transcript tho, just the collection of written matter submitted.
BingoBoingo: has most of the prepared statements now. Looks like to get a full one for the questions, or at lest the interesting questions I might have to make it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Here's the lulziest of the prepared statements (was read verbatim) http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/hearing/vchearing/van_cleef.pdf
BingoBoingo: I'll paste it as plaintext
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1577206/
ozbot: dpaste: #1577206
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00090009 = 6.0306 BTC [+]
polac: hello i ahve a question please
polac: have*
mircea_popescu: wait, VanCleef was the\re !?
mircea_popescu: polac shoot
polac: thanks
polac: mircea popescu?
polac: bot or human
polac: this is the oficcial acnel for bitbet?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Dunno if it IRC VanClef, but it was the girl's name
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62479997 = 3.124 BTC [-] {2}
polac: some one eee
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62497777 = 5.6248 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: polac this seems to be the best channel for bitbet
polac: ok i have some questions but i dont see lot of activity here
BingoBoingo: What I don't get about the tesitfying Van Cleef is instead of Bitcoin they wanted to discuss:
BingoBoingo: "a company called COEPTIS is preparing to launch the Global Standard System (System) that will issue a medium of exchange called the Global Standard Currency (Currency). This Currency, which will circulate electronically on a closed settlement platform, will be 100% backed by physical gold, providing for freedom from default and fully protecting the holder’s value."
Troic_: polac, it will come (the activity) or you can just ask, perhaps someone else knows the answer.
BingoBoingo: polac: IRC is a slow medium. Put forward the questions and someone should get to them within an hour or day or so
mircea_popescu: polac yes it is.
mircea_popescu: that's the first time someone wanted to know if im a bot ;/
chetty: you aren't?
deadweasel: it's pretty obvious he is.
assbot: his AI is almost as good as mine
deadweasel: well, he's your bot, assbot
jurov: rofl
deadweasel: AI making AI, what has the world come to?!
polac: ok is related a bet on bitbet.us . if i make a BET that is obvius that will win.. .. how i know how much BTC i will get on reward how i make the calc
jurov: polac have you noticed there is a calculator?
polac: is this BET . that left 7 hours .. to end
polac: http://bitbet.us/bet/590/bitcoin-market-capitalization-to-be-above-4-5-billion/
jurov: right on the bet page
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin Market Capitalization to be above 4.5 billion USD on Feb 1st
polac: yes i know that is a calculator. but i dont know if is the clean amount or total amount
polac: here stas say if i put 1 btc i get ---Yes pays: 0.9904118 BTC ----- No pays: 1.04474976 BTC
polac: so if i put 1 btc i get 0.99 + 1 btc investment i get total 1.99 ?
BingoBoingo: polac: You'd get 0.99 total because of betting so late.
polac: so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99
polac: how much i can get that is what i wanna know
jurov: 0.99btc
BingoBoingo: polac: That's what you'd get. Betting 1.0 BTC would return to you a total of 0.99 BTC
polac: so intstad of win i loss
polac: 0.1 btc?
BingoBoingo: polac: 0.01 BTC, but yes. Because it is a sure thing.
polac: i undersatnd now so the calculator say the total profit i get included the . amount of the bet i pplace + profit?
deadweasel: polac, minus your late betting
deadweasel: meaning you're too late to make money on this bet if you bet yes and win.
deadweasel: you should probabgly wait until the betting is closed, and place it then.
deadweasel: it seems to work out well for people.
deadweasel: they learn LOADS
jurov: in other words, the weight of your bet is less than bitbet fee
polac: another question iwhen i put the (Send winnings to originating address) i dont need to do nothing more. will be automatly send to the wallet from the money come from
polac: ok so its only good when the weight its high?
jurov: yes, that's the principle, bet early, get more
kakobrekla: get a better rate
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: i dont understand the last question re sending winning to originating address
mircea_popescu: <polac> so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99 << you get exacty what it says, 0.99
mircea_popescu: deadweasel evil boy!
mircea_popescu: polac IF you run a full node wallet, then yes you control the address, and so will be ok.
jurov: polac: you need a wallet that contains actual private keys (such as bitcoin-qt/multibit/electrum)
mircea_popescu: if however you do not run a full node, then you will be in trouble most likely.
mircea_popescu: use a special address to receive.
kakobrekla: well, blockchain.info wallet is client side rite, so that should work too
polac: i use.. electrum client
polac: its ok?
jurov: yes, with electrum you'll be fine with sending to originating address
mircea_popescu: just make sure you don't delete it/lose that wallet in the meanwhile.
kakobrekla: the bad thing about using same address is that you lose stats
kakobrekla: unless you send from same one each time
mircea_popescu: well maybe to him it's a good thing
kakobrekla: i gues
kakobrekla: s
mircea_popescu: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/30/italy-shocked-mafia-fatal-hit-3-year-old-boy/
ozbot: Italy shocked at Mafia's fatal hit of 3-year-old boy - Washington Times
mircea_popescu: The boy, Nicola “Coco” Campolongo, age 3, was shot along with his grandfather, Giuseppe Iannicelli, and his grandfather’s companion, age 27, CNN reported.
mircea_popescu: gotta love the fucktarded press. "unprecedented" ? these people have perhaps not seen... i dunno, the godfather ?
mircea_popescu: fucking trilogy debuts by kids being killed.
deadweasel: polac: be sure your bet will make it on-time. check for slow transactions, include a transaction fee.
deadweasel: and don't bet more than you can stand to lose. it's gambling, not investing.
polac: that is the trick on bitbet.i
kakobrekla: also check in bitbet footer if the last block was 14 hrs ago
polac: us
deadweasel: also the same goes for investing
polac: fee shouldbee deduce automatic
deadweasel: you should be deduced automatically
polac: its better .. trading i think
polac: pay outs are very small
deadweasel: not if you're early on the correct side of a bet.
polac: somes of you have won a bet lately
kakobrekla: its fairly easy to do 0 fee tx which will always get included in the first found block
deadweasel: that might require reading a document!
kakobrekla: or i can tell you how its done
deadweasel: nah
mircea_popescu: polac http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
mircea_popescu: yes, some people won some bets recently.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC
polac: 16-12-13 19:19 Yes 63`178 1.00000000 13ZmZ 1.17699815
polac: 1 b tc.. bet and get .0.17 in 2 months common
polac: trading that btc just 1.. you can get it in 2 or 2.5 btc in 2 monhts
mircea_popescu: there was a guy who got 0.4 BTC trading 200 ltc in twenty minutes yesterday
ThickAsThieves: huh?
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: polac, will you be naming ALL the ways one can increase their coins?
ThickAsThieves: then we can exhaustively paint them against betting
ThickAsThieves: or we could save the time and send you to just-dice
mircea_popescu: but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far
ThickAsThieves: probly the guys who took my 50btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0485 = 0.388 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mind running a coupla queries ?
ThickAsThieves: in dollars, probly the 2bn bet, in bitcoins, probly a BFL bet?
mircea_popescu: in bitcoin ofc.
kakobrekla: well, i gotta take my gf out for a walk nao but when i get back sure
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440174.msg4842137#msg4842137 << mwahaha
ozbot: The Emerging Bitcoin Civil War
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol that sounded pretty hot. take pics.
kakobrekla: lol.
benkay: so guys when my shitty corner of the world falls apart how do i stay hooked into the btc transaction network?
benkay: how, long term, do i keep computers that can broadcast transactions running?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: can't you just move like everyone else ?
benkay: there's a bet in there!
benkay: on one side, that internet and computers never return to this area
benkay: on the other that they do
ThickAsThieves: just use a secret/encrypted channe;
ThickAsThieves: l
benkay: USA: the next africa?
ThickAsThieves: not in our lifetime
mircea_popescu: it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption in the us soon enough
mircea_popescu: (real encryption. you'll have to use apple/google/ms/w/e)
ThickAsThieves: maybe you are right
ThickAsThieves: if the NSA motto is "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"...
mircea_popescu: it's already illegal to use encryption in the uk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: meanwhile my motto is "fuck with me and maybe you'll live to regret it"
mircea_popescu: i wonder which is more appealing to the average person.
benkay: probably the former.
ThickAsThieves: No Trans Fat is more appealling to the avg person
mircea_popescu: i guess we have a political debate to settle huh.
benkay: political debate?
ThickAsThieves: debate!
benkay: more about nature of derpy average humans - most don't care about the tyrant under whom they sweat.
ThickAsThieves: how can we decentralize this problem?
ThickAsThieves: decentralization is always the answer
mircea_popescu: benkay in which case they don't get a vote at all.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-]
benkay: mircea_popescu: you're all over today man. first it was what's more appealing to the bell curve and now it's about who gets to vote on a thing.
benkay: i thought there was no voting in the future, just the decisions of btcholders.
twizt: lol
ThickAsThieves: he means voting via decisions
jurov: ;;seen pigeons
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <pigeons> should make an exact mpex clone with no new functionality just charge 5% to view it in a bootstrap template
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: LANGUAGE BETRAYS ME!
mircea_popescu: let's learn esperanto.
KRS1: lol esperanto
ThickAsThieves: Mi fartas bone.
KRS1: Lord High Potentate would be proud.
pankkake: "it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption" history repeating itself!
pankkake: I remember the stupid laws we had in France, where anything >128 bit was forbidden
benkay: how is the cardano protected from RNG diddling?
pankkake: of course, only big businesses were affected, the software was there for regular people
asciilifeform: benkay: if you can be more specific, you'll get a more interesting answer.
benkay: othis mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center
benkay: argh
benkay: i'm thinking about this mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center in a fashion that the end-customer is generally never wiser
pankkake: hmm… how about a seal?
asciilifeform: pankkake: seals inspire unjustified confidence
asciilifeform: the art of forging seals is centuries old.
benkay: what kind of seal actually works? i'm aware of any.
benkay: unaware*
pankkake: I don't have any knowledge of a foolproof seal
benkay: so what's the point?
deadweasel: feelings
pankkake: well there mihgt be
deadweasel: want to feel secure
pankkake: no
pankkake: perhaps ship the device in two parts?
benkay: man i don't wanna 'feel' secure!
benkay: i want to know how NSA plans to address the in-shipment diddling of computer bits by fiat organizations.
asciilifeform: pankkake: there are two identical rngs (removable.) each is an analogue device, with convenient probe points and a very simple circuit (29 parts, 26 of them passives)
pankkake: I was thinking of some sort of cryptographic seal; you'd have to activate the device in some way
pankkake: of course, I have no idea if it can work
asciilifeform: FW is signed, and users will be encouraged to suck it in and verify the sig
asciilifeform: each unit will also come with a set of high-res photographs of its internals, signed with my personal key.
pankkake: well, that was the best I could come up with when thinking about "signing" the hardware
asciilifeform: the only real defence against an elaborate fake is to actually understand the function of the device
asciilifeform: the way a Pashtun understands his Kalash.
pankkake: it won't prevent tampering by highly qualified bad guys
asciilifeform: a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse.
ThickAsThieves: put anthrax inside, problem solved
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse. <<
mircea_popescu: only if "qualified" = his q - his q.
mircea_popescu: i mean his q - your q.
pankkake: the future is drone delivery with complete video feed of the fly path, with blockchain time proofs!
pankkake: hm, I'm not sure the second part solves anything
pankkake: video feed would be sent to the expeditor, obviously
asciilifeform: there is no 100% defence, even in principle, against a world-class forger
asciilifeform: one can take photos, sufficiently detailed to include imperfections of the pcb, solder joints, etc. and sign them
asciilifeform: but this requires the user to actually give a damn
asciilifeform: and sit with a jeweler's loupe, etc.
pankkake: is there any way to take pictures in a reproducible way?
asciilifeform: pankkake: it depends what you mean by 'reproducible'
pankkake: the images would then be comparable by a machine
asciilifeform: if you are considering a machine for the comparison, you are in a state of sin.
benkay: there is also the glitter fingernail polish approach
ThickAsThieves: it could be done sorta
asciilifeform: the idiots are 'wired' almost certainly stole that one from this channel.
ThickAsThieves: get a lightbox, calibrate the camera mount placement
pankkake: that was my idea, yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 90 @ 0.24310363 = 21.8793 BTC
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/hDR8YZhv << i loled.
ozbot: octopus Mike Hearn defaced bitcoinBull Inaba QuantPlus Raoul Duke cryptoa - Pastebin.com
pankkake: interestingly I had Mike Hearn without knowing anything about his function
pankkake: function as in "official title"
ThickAsThieves: someone's ignore list?
pankkake: mine
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pankkake's idea of a blog.
pankkake: haha
ThickAsThieves: hehe
pankkake: short term project is to stop forums and blog more
mircea_popescu: it DOES have css, so.
pankkake: I basically replaced a forum I got banned from by another
ThickAsThieves: kako should just add a blog section to the #b-a website
ThickAsThieves: then let channers post
mircea_popescu: so i just crafted a double bacon burger. sadly, it can't be eaten.
pankkake: you can create a "planet"
mircea_popescu: dude this isn't such a horrid idea.
pankkake: as in http://planet.debian.org/
mircea_popescu: post via assbot, only let ppl in its wot post.
ThickAsThieves: itd work way better than all of us trying to start our own thing
mircea_popescu: collective blog.
benkay: sounds socialist
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it'd work cheaper, not sure better.
pankkake: benkay: yeah. that's why planet's better; everyone blogs how he sees fits, the planet aggregates
ThickAsThieves: the marketer in me thinks itd be better all around
ThickAsThieves: save trilema
asciilifeform: next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets...
ThickAsThieves: which does pretty good
benkay: auto turrets for all!
pankkake: so readers go to one place if they wish, but bloggers are where they want
ThickAsThieves: so a feed reader, curated
ThickAsThieves: rather, filtered
pankkake: yes
ThickAsThieves: or both
ThickAsThieves: but curated sounds so centralixed
benkay: i don't want readers who can't subscribe to an rss feed on their own
benkay: shit, i don't want readers who don't curate their own reading lists!
ThickAsThieves: yknow chrome doesnt make it easy
pankkake: I know a blog that has *only* a RSS feed
ThickAsThieves: i know blogs that dnt have em at all
benkay: cryptome doesn't have an rss feed for that matter
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets... >>> and nudity for womenz under 35 ?
asciilifeform: ya
pankkake: maddox.xmission.com used to not have one, too
ThickAsThieves: you could also implement the trilema blog fees
ThickAsThieves: to support assbot's family
ThickAsThieves: and the writers
mircea_popescu: anyway, buncha people have blogs, which imo is the best thing.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry.
mircea_popescu: but for the lazy bums a global stopgap can't hurt
pankkake: "Assets Assimilated"
mircea_popescu: this way we get best of both worlds, all sorts of social phenomena on shared blogs
ThickAsThieves: in this sense i am indeed a lazy bum
ThickAsThieves: occassionally an urge to tell a tale
ThickAsThieves: but to make a blog?
ThickAsThieves: to get readers?
ThickAsThieves: meh
mircea_popescu: in other words : public fucking and private fucking aren't even the same fucking. they don't replace each other.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves forget the readers, who cares.
pankkake: creating a blog is easy. wordpress.com, done
ThickAsThieves: i happen to believe that art is for the viewer, not the creator
mircea_popescu: this novel nuttery with the readers. who cared, cca 1970, when telling a joke, how many people in the office were gathered round ?
mircea_popescu: it's like "o dan's joke was so much better, even sammy from the mailroom was here"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.620012 = 3.1001 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: its sharing of experience, it has value beyond its own existence
ThickAsThieves: thus the more it is consumed, the more impact it has
benkay: moreover, its mostly the firm's partners that the joke is intended for, not the typists and accountants.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe your readers all live in 2200. how do yu know ?
mircea_popescu: art can be for the viewer, but that doesn't necessarilyu mean google analytics is meaningful.
ThickAsThieves: i thought you were more existential?
ThickAsThieves: like you care about 2200
mircea_popescu: i don't. i also don't care about readers as such.
ThickAsThieves: i also believe in creating an environment of facilitation
mircea_popescu: we're discussing your view here
ThickAsThieves: if you want a flower to grow, maybe plant a seed
ThickAsThieves: hell, maybe you even water it!
mircea_popescu: dude, if you got a seed plant it already, forget the flower. what, keep it in your pocket till it becomes lint ?
ThickAsThieves: well i did say it was a lazy idea
benkay: what's the best time to plant a tree?
benkay: twenty years ago.
benkay: what's the second best time to plant a tree?
benkay: today.
mircea_popescu: the big loser in all of this is, of course,
ThickAsThieves: not 19 years ago?
mircea_popescu: kako.
mircea_popescu: it's like...
mircea_popescu: "hey, implement this thing ? " "may i spend some time with my girl ? " "ok"
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: comes back... hey, we got 43987593485 more things to implement.
mircea_popescu: DARE YOU take off ever again ?
ThickAsThieves: then he gets mad at the girl "see what happens!"
mircea_popescu: poor chick ends up with irish sunglasses...
mircea_popescu: "all i did is walk!"
ThickAsThieves: walk yourself next time!
mircea_popescu: here's the leash, you got hands, go walk!
ThickAsThieves: <asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry. <<<< i recall at least a couple "idea men" saying theyd make similar things
ThickAsThieves: also, i think mjr has a micro blog payment thingy
ThickAsThieves: blottery?
ThickAsThieves: incentivized reading or such
ThickAsThieves: in the past i suggested similar,
pankkake: I used to have a bot posting RSS feed updates to channels, but it was some Ruby crap and blew up
ThickAsThieves: run a service that holds like .1 btc for you in an account, it runs a chrome plugin,
pankkake: but that kind of stuff is quite useful
ThickAsThieves: it autopays in blog fees while urfing
ThickAsThieves: and gives you a popup if over a certain price
ThickAsThieves: to approve
ThickAsThieves: frictionless micropayments
pankkake: that's how the web should have been
pankkake: instead of advertising everywhere
mircea_popescu: ^
ThickAsThieves: well it will
mircea_popescu: as i said! fucktards were allowed on the web before payments were put in, fucked everyhing up
ThickAsThieves: the advertising thing is almost fully milked
pankkake: isn't advertising one of the first things to be cut, when companies have financial troubles?
ThickAsThieves: small biz
ThickAsThieves: not big biz
pankkake: oh, I thought it was
ThickAsThieves: its backwards, yeah
ThickAsThieves: small biz cuts the thing they need most
ThickAsThieves: its very difficult for small biz to interpret value from marketing
mircea_popescu: or to avoid being scammed by marketeers.
ThickAsThieves: was my next point
mircea_popescu: last thing a small biz needs is to try and fucking compete with the government-backed wasters.
ThickAsThieves: they are bombarded with "opportunities"
ThickAsThieves: a small biz gets burned repeatedly
mircea_popescu: whenever i hear of a start-up working on a superbowl ad...
ThickAsThieves: and then when they finally bump into someone that can actually help them, they have lost all faith
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, after talking about advertising yest i got some pretty interesting info... seems superbowl is also pretty much dead.
mircea_popescu: they can barely sell tickets anymore.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.615 = 2.46 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: bitbet shall transcend sports after all then
ThickAsThieves: bets on superbowl advertisoing revenue are way more fun anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04899999 = 2.94 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00350877 = 0.1053 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "My name is Manthan, but you can call me nahtnam."
mircea_popescu: people today!
mircea_popescu: and unrelatedly... "50 percent of physicians reporting that they’ve consulted wikipedia for information on health conditions."
mircea_popescu: nofucking woder health insurance is so expensive.
ThickAsThieves: the other 50% use webmd
mircea_popescu: lol
twizt: time to pretend to be a doctor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC
mircea_popescu: i imagine for every person getting scammed by some bitcoin ceo
mircea_popescu: there's 100 or 1k patients beinbg scammed by some webdoctor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
benkay: far better to have a friend who's been through the american nursing training
benkay: than visit a hospital and have to trust some 'doctor'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1495 BTC [-]
pankkake: http://assass.headfucking.net/
ozbot: Assets Assimilated
ThickAsThieves: nice
ThickAsThieves: the url is a bit... abrasive
pankkake: ~10 minute setup :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58301004 BTC [-]
pankkake: I'd take any virtual host given, say planet.bitcoin-assets.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: assass lol
pankkake: ;;ud buttbuttinate
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ozbot: Urban Dictionary: buttbuttinate
ThickAsThieves: is there a transcript of all the NY hearings?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20233 @ 0.00089612 = 18.1312 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 417 @ 0.00089601 = 0.3736 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: https://citp.princeton.edu/event/andresen/
ozbot: Gavin Andresen ’88 is Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation and lead developer of the Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: this from a bitcoin magazine ad: http://bankinnovation.info/
ThickAsThieves: invitation only
ThickAsThieves: but advertises on bitcoin mag?
ThickAsThieves: Bank Innovation 2014 will be a forum for executives and innovators to collaborate and share ideas to improve customer acquisition and retention through new products and strategies.
ThickAsThieves: ha there is a different Neo presenting
ThickAsThieves: Navin is founder and CEO of Neo, a startup that aims to disrupt credit risk assessment of thin-credit and sub-prime consumers by leveraging alternative credit data.
pankkake: Neo & Buzzwords
mircea_popescu: apparently all noobs have to go through the same wringer
mircea_popescu: be they princes or paupers.
mircea_popescu: whatever, bitcoin is here to cater.
ThickAsThieves: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304691904579348791505926788
ozbot: Perkinsnacht - WSJ.com
ThickAsThieves: i learned a new word, commentariat, thanks wsj!
deadweasel: chief scientist?!?!
KRS1: sup, chief
ThickAsThieves: chief scientist get many wampum
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far
kakobrekla: 5758.8%
mike_c: anticipation..
kakobrekla: hm?
mike_c: link??
mike_c: who won the lotto?
kakobrekla: well i guess anyone can compile this list since all the stuff is public
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/winnersgains.txt
mike_c: hm, but hard to tell which bet the wagers were on, right?
mike_c: ^ derp
kakobrekla: Bet #1834 on #277: 0.01000000 B in, 0.58588048 B out, 0.57588048 B gain (5758.8%)
mike_c: yeah, i glanced over the "on #277" somehow
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/
ozbot: BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013
kakobrekla: and more
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#1834
ozbot: BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#b1834
ozbot: BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013
mike_c: 277 was a special bet though
kakobrekla: still no
kakobrekla: a wait you cant do that
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/#b2
ozbot: BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013
kakobrekla: ok well we can exclude that one if ya want
kakobrekla: if you throw it oout
kakobrekla: you get
kakobrekla: Bet #161 on #42: 0.03000000 B in, 0.69300000 B out, 0.66300000 B gain (2210%)
mike_c: that was a house bet. i'm curious what the best gain on a user bet was. i'll look through.
kakobrekla: grrr
kakobrekla: cant satisfy assets
mike_c: a demanding bunch.
ThickAsThieves: that's best in %, what's best in coin qty?
kakobrekla: but house bet 'out' can go to user mike_c
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.02957418 = 0.9759 BTC [-] {4}
mike_c: true
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves hm you mean most coin won or biggest gain?
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: well gains you got ther
kakobrekla: you want biggest bet or what
ThickAsThieves: most coin won
ThickAsThieves: by one bet
kakobrekla: so biggest gain in btc amount, not by percentage
kakobrekla: or biggest 'out' ?
ThickAsThieves: biggest gain
ThickAsThieves: i can probly just put this in a spreadsheet and sort
kakobrekla: 1 sec
mike_c: this might be it. over 1000% return, not bad.
mike_c: http://bitbet.us/bet/8/#b4
ozbot: BitBet - Higgs boson support
ThickAsThieves: Bet #496 on #7: 100.00000000 B in198.99762832 B out98.99762832 B gain (99%)
mike_c: yeah, but you have to multiply the BTC x the exchange rate at the time :)
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/winnersgainsbtc.txt
kakobrekla: i think.
ThickAsThieves: idc about exchange rate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.074 = 0.37 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/#b36
ozbot: BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st
ThickAsThieves: that guy
ThickAsThieves: 321.65447788btc gain
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/stats/1AnUirXjTtaV5gsS5B51zTFjj4aa8rhaST/
kakobrekla: now you can follow him
ThickAsThieves: looks all funded from MPEx
kakobrekla: dunno talk to mpex re that :)
ThickAsThieves: scams!
ThickAsThieves: https://blockchain.info/address/1LSLFzSMD1ZDSiNV1bvJm9QNj1EhnC49eg
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1LSLFzSMD1ZDSiNV1bvJm9QNj1EhnC49eg
kakobrekla: whats that?
ThickAsThieves: the IN tx
kakobrekla: anyway, if someone wanted to hide something, it isnt particularly hard
ThickAsThieves: from mpexy wallet to bitbet
kakobrekla: so someone made a bet with making a withdrawal on mpex
ThickAsThieves: probly
kakobrekla: >I fully believe we need to hire a PR manager, as my time can be much more effectively used actually working on things as opposed to maintaining this thread.
kakobrekla: doing what zactly, jerking off to free porn?
ThickAsThieves: who said that?
kakobrekla: that hard?
ThickAsThieves: Ukyo?
kakobrekla: the name starts with garr and ends with retard
ThickAsThieves: oh, he still talks?
kakobrekla: yea.
pankkake: I know but I read it before. anyway, those PR guys are useless if they're just remote random forum users with no info
ThickAsThieves: useless in the honest sense, at least
pankkake: what he really needs is a guy to take over the business
kakobrekla: he needs to be raped by niggers.txt, not a pr person.
pankkake: in the honest sense?
ThickAsThieves: well hiring a PR is a great move for a scammer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02941176 = 0.3529 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: pankkake there is no business there
ThickAsThieves: especially if you hire a populare forumite
kakobrekla: nothing to 'take over'
kakobrekla: except pile of shit and scam
kakobrekla: whod want taht
pankkake: the mining hardware, the coins
ThickAsThieves: ans especiallu if hiring means getting paid in shares
kakobrekla: he lost a bunch of coin
kakobrekla: doing stupid shit
kakobrekla: he baiscally defaulted
pankkake: well, yeah
kakobrekla: and will pay out of his own pocket, he says
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02820002 = 0.3102 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: but the diff will go to 50410 billion trillion zillion
kakobrekla: and he wont pay shit.
ThickAsThieves: i guess these scams will exist til the diff calms down
ThickAsThieves: its just too easy
kakobrekla: >alincoln, I do realize that that would be the best case scenario for you. However, please acknowledge that I am taking a heavy loss on this one, so please accept a full refund of your initial investment Plus all dividends up to the last one that was paid. With that case, you've still made more money than just holding coins, which is pretty damn good.
ThickAsThieves: even now, people paying .65 for AM shares?!
kakobrekla: sounds zactly like inaba
kakobrekla: whos dick he was sucking not a few months ago.
kakobrekla: maybe sperms got in his brain
kakobrekla: and now this.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell polac here's a list : http://bitbet.us/bet/42/#b2 (2.2k%), http://bitbet.us/bet/380/#b5 1.5k%, http://bitbet.us/bet/8/#b3 1k% etc
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there.
mircea_popescu: buncha derps with no business want to hire pr ? pr to do what. what they need is someone to take over their LIFE
mircea_popescu: like, a parent.
pankkake: well, given his age…
mircea_popescu: ikr?
mircea_popescu: "the internet is not your daycare, ma'am"
mircea_popescu: instead of "protecting children"
mircea_popescu: fuck children. protect the adults.
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> <pankkake> what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there. << no biz, no point.
pankkake: why do you guys hate him so much though?
deadweasel: maybe you should start S.BDEV, offering consultants for a % of business improvement profits.
mircea_popescu: i dun hate him.
ThickAsThieves: i dont cqare enough to hate
mircea_popescu: deadweasel cheaper to just remake their "busness" properly.
ThickAsThieves: but i even tried leveling with him privately
deadweasel: oh ya
mircea_popescu: nobody goes around fixing bad hamburgers som,eone overcooked
ThickAsThieves: and all he did was beg to have his trust fixed
kakobrekla: its just the most straight forward scamfest to troll
ThickAsThieves: and when i said no, he negrated me
ThickAsThieves: just a scammer
mircea_popescu: http://devotionalsex.com/tumblr_lvhosf4H281qzn5vfo1_500.jpg
kakobrekla: i thought that middle girl has amish beard for a sec
ThickAsThieves: hehe me too
mircea_popescu: lmao
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62280186 BTC [+]
pankkake: http://devotionalsex.com/ totally not a cult ☟︎
ozbot: Devotional Sex
mircea_popescu: it's a splendid idea, what. chicks getting dorks to lap them up and drool a lot.
punkman: "Lite Devotional Sex is for men who like most things about Devotional Sex, but are unwilling to meet the tough ejaculation restrictions of full Devotional Sex. "
kakobrekla: http://bou.si/4c/1391107866837.jpg
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: you know, for the record : as weird as it may seem, this has been mainstream sexuality since about queen victoria up until 1970-1980.
lippoper: what is up with the cars in subway?
mircea_popescu: only the introduction of effective cheap contraception and the rise of porn broke it up and sent the woman back on her knees
lippoper: kakobrekla
kakobrekla: lippoper i wont spoil the fun.
ThickAsThieves: it's reverting
ThickAsThieves: men want their mommies back
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0056 = 0.4368 BTC [-] {2}
lippoper: http://imgur.com/1MIysmP
ozbot: Vault of Satoshi, 24 h Trading volume - Imgur
mircea_popescu: certainly has a solid bedrock of interest.
mircea_popescu: and tbh... nttawwi.
ThickAsThieves: ;;ud nttawwi
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mircea_popescu: not that there's anything wrong with it
ThickAsThieves: word
benkay: here's to setting women back on their knees
benkay: mine's crocheting a 'kneeling rug'
mircea_popescu: benkay careful you don't bit more than you can chew :D womenz can be a handful.
benkay: dem hardwood floors
benkay: yeah man i know!
kakobrekla: womenz can be a handful. < is that a handjob reference?
mircea_popescu: lol
KRS1: Bait:
KRS1: http://i.imgur.com/klA7PdP.jpg
benkay: but the most handfully they've ever gotten with me was when i wasn't regularly putting them on their knees.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how was the walk anyway
kakobrekla: very snowy
kakobrekla: got bout 40cm here
mircea_popescu: it's pleasant here, like maybe 5.
kakobrekla: its nice, clean and quiet
kakobrekla: but
kakobrekla: reminds of apple too much.
mircea_popescu: lol KRS1 you get points for clever shilling at least.
KRS1: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/6d4afc1cbeee08253375423ffe6cffe4/tumblr_mf3pjbe74Z1qaurevo1_1280.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.58279556 = 5.2452 BTC [-] {5}
lippoper: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb11jieuGj1qgn6feo1_500.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.580258 = 1.7408 BTC [-] {3}
lippoper: http://www.dcmagnates.com/dogecoin-and-quarkcoin-hot-other-altcoins-not-on-first-day-vault-of-satoshi-trading/
ozbot: Dogecoin and Quarkcoin Hot, Other Altcoins Not, on First Day Vault of Satoshi Trading – Digital Cu
lippoper: 24hours in Vault of Satoshi | Some noteworthy statistics:
lippoper: 88% of trading was performed in USD, Bitcoin was the most traded crypto, combining for $19.4k, or 48% of the total dollar volume. In a not-too-distant 2nd was Dogecoin, combining for $14.1k, or 35% of the total volume. No other cryptos came remotely close. Litecoin was a distant 4th, posting just $2100 in total dollar volume.
mircea_popescu: why is this noteworthy ?
lippoper: That's what the article said
lippoper: Are you telling me the news is lieing to me?
lippoper: lulz
pankkake: how do you get fiat in and out of VoS?
mircea_popescu: im telling you there's no way to distinguish random scammy "exchange" #854687 from all the others and nobody really cares what alt coin traded five grand more than which other altcoin
lippoper: cool
lippoper: pankkake, they have a verification system
lippoper: takes 3 days for bank transfers to clear
pankkake: so it's bank transfers. good
mircea_popescu: you in any way involved?
mircea_popescu: anyone here know the DrahogErusiel forum character incidentally ?
lippoper: no just heard about it yesterday
lippoper: that VOS is based in Canada, where they are treating virtual currencies as a commodity
lippoper: so it should be legal and taxable over there
mircea_popescu: commodities are taxed in canada ?
lippoper: aren't all commodities taxed?
mircea_popescu: i think you may be confused.
mircea_popescu: dja mean like a sales tax ?
KRS1: fawk lippoper nice bait..much love
lippoper: yeah
mircea_popescu: perhaps. all previous canadian exchanges ended up turning kinda shady so it never really got tested.
lippoper: KRS1 wasn't as good as your last one... ;-)
KRS1: i'll trade ya
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you there ? or anyone wanna escrow some painting comission for me ?
lippoper: mp, i'm not sure how it all works to be honest, but from what I understand Canada gives businesses more confidence to deal in virtual currencies because at least they've defined it as a commodity.
KRS1: mircea_popescu: I have not yet been rated
mircea_popescu: sux.
deadweasel: nubbins`: you declaring your btc?
lippoper: KRS
lippoper: best bait yet http://25.media.tumblr.com/1926b2a2629f17a11ca05eb744365556/tumblr_mifmddq6CL1rkhr4mo1_500.jpg
twizt: nicee
twizt: only the one in the middle and left
pankkake: I'd take middle and right
KRS1: Mmm nice
deadweasel: i'm using my imagination (at work), i'll take the top 6
KRS1: left boobs too big
pankkake: no such thing
KRS1: deadweasel: theres left mid and right
KRS1: i like mid and right
deadweasel: it's like i'm 13 again!
lippoper: i'll take one for the team and grab the big boobed girl on the left
lippoper: lol
deadweasel: kind man, lippoper
lippoper: such wingman
mircea_popescu: the fountain of ircyouth
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04899999 = 0.196 BTC [+]
lippoper: very motorboat
lippoper: wow
KRS1: lol
KRS1: wonder what sex games can be driven by btc
Dimsler_: i tried to buy pimpcoin
Dimsler_: from the creater
Dimsler_: refused to sell it to me
twizt: lol
mircea_popescu: why ?
KRS1: need something with the allure of sex, addiction of dice and the ease of payment of BTC.
twizt: win a escort KRS1
Dimsler_: to have all the whores and johns using it?
twizt: box bet for escorts
KRS1: Heroin delivery by late night Bait?
twizt: fill the box
twizt: winner gets 3 hrs
twizt: with XYZ pornstar
twizt: = business
twizt: LOL
Dimsler_: sex industry is going to be the next step for btc
KRS1: not bad i have some contacts for that hmm
KRS1: just local tho
twizt: use a site like eros
mircea_popescu: sex industry is kinda thick, kinda dead and doesn't really need a special coin
mircea_popescu: nor could they use it.
Dimsler_: pimpcoin is genious
KRS1: i know the guy who bought bitcoin.xxx
Dimsler_: if you went on the backpage
twizt: international yo
Dimsler_: and started advertising it to girls
Dimsler_: you'd probably get some users
Dimsler_: imagine if your a whore
Dimsler_: and offer to take btc?
Dimsler_: imagine the traffic you'd get
twizt: lol
Dimsler_: from the advertising alone
twizt: pay ur hoes with pimp coin
Dimsler_: it'll be like overstock.com
KRS1: mircea_popescu: the porn industry does NOT have a way to take micropayments
Dimsler_: except no shitty lawnchairs
mircea_popescu: Dimsler_ you obviously missed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435750.msg4796386#msg4796386
assbot: 123!
mircea_popescu: KRS1 or any product those micropayments'd be for.
KRS1: damn
KRS1: i guess
Dimsler_: mircea_popescu, in most countries whores have pimps
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00283294 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {3}
Dimsler_: and a smart pimp should be on the btc bandwagon
Dimsler_: for monetary control of his steed of whores
mircea_popescu: pimps will take anything you pay them.
Dimsler_: think about it, they can't skim from the pimp
Dimsler_: the pimp controls the transaction
mircea_popescu: you ever been one ?
Dimsler_: he can chronologically time stamp the whores whereabouts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 685 @ 0.00283576 = 1.9425 BTC [+] {3}
Dimsler_: no
mircea_popescu: well, do you hang out / go drinking with any ?
twizt: KRS1 are u a dev?
Dimsler_: guys that run girls?
Dimsler_: i try not to associate with the dreges of society
Dimsler_: if thats what you're implying
mircea_popescu: then why do you try to solve their problems ?
Dimsler_: for my own personal gain obviously
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1051 BTC [+]
Dimsler_: to collect me 3% on pimpcoin
Dimsler_: or other
mircea_popescu: yes, but the problem is it all stems from your own personal delusion, i'd say.
Dimsler_: greed is my motivational factor
Dimsler_: which other ones did you want me to have?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00284 = 0.1846 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well, that's fine, but it doesn't help in this angle.
Dimsler_: i love all the preaching bitcoiners how they are going to be saving farmers in argentina or africa
mircea_popescu: anyway : pimps will take whatever the customer pays.
Dimsler_: fact is btcs main use will be for illicit purposes
Dimsler_: ofcourse he will
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is interesting for the student/teen that doubles as a hooker on her own
twizt: hookercoin
mircea_popescu: because that way she can't get caught, not really, and moreover she gets the crowd she likes
twizt: has it been made yet?
twizt: LOL
mircea_popescu: (ie, white dorks/nerds)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00284999 = 0.1425 BTC [+]
Dimsler_: well bitcoin is for anyone who doesn't want to A) have a problem with asset seizure B) wants to hide there activity financially C) want to launder there proceeds
mircea_popescu: right ?
Dimsler_: so why wouldn't the pimp facilitate the usage of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: so the last thing a pimp wants is crypto.
mircea_popescu: the pimp and the govt have in fact the exact same interests :
mircea_popescu: a stable of cattle they're exploiting.
Dimsler_: ofcourse but the pimp is operating within his own brutalizing operation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0028462 = 0.2277 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: derp.
Dimsler_: outside of the norms of the government criminal gang
Dimsler_: hes not paying taxing or utilize the court system for conflict dispute
mircea_popescu: anyway.
twizt: government = real mafia
twizt: lol
KRS1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZlJGERbvE
ozbot: Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube
twizt: 100% racket
Dimsler_: well mircea_popescu is correct
Dimsler_: countries are giant farms
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1988 BTC [-]
Dimsler_: they have the slaves, the brutalizing class, the high preists, and the farm keepers
mircea_popescu: anyway, more's the point : i been trying to get the fucktarded girls on crypto for 2 years.
mircea_popescu: they're dumb as rocks, lazy as a limp cock and proud like peacocks.
mircea_popescu: it's slow going, and in the end who the fuck cares.
Dimsler_: thats why a simple pimpcoin interface
mircea_popescu: lead that linked thread, you'll get the gist of it.
the20year: Feb 3rd for RentalStarter on HL
KRS1: The grass is greener on the other side.
KRS1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngfiDVr495w
ozbot: Julian Marley - Boom draw - YouTube
KRS1: lippoper: ^^ for you ganja man
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/f6287083cc8bb81a459ba829bfda86db/tumblr_mic74zp9mF1ru15g3o1_500.jpg
lippoper: nice thanks mon
pankkake: the tomatoes are more attractive than the girl
lippoper: lol
twizt: fake tits
lippoper: aww how fappable
lippoper: http://24.media.tumblr.com/19e62a8bcb882dcd8c847d172a627d92/tumblr_mmx4ed9O2f1rwegl4o1_500.jpg
pankkake: nice!
mircea_popescu: nice tomatoes.
lippoper: yay dogecoin has reached coinmarketcap.com's #5 position
lippoper: oh wait
lippoper: slipped back to 6
lippoper: nvm
pankkake: sometimes Nxt breaks, too
mircea_popescu: considering ripples are #2 there... lol.
pankkake: http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Time%20For%20a%20Trip/Time_for_a_Trip_48.JPG
lippoper: wow
lippoper: I bet the redhead is the hottest and you can't see any of her assets
pankkake: http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Time%20For%20a%20Trip/Time_for_a_Trip_49.JPG
pankkake: she seems to have the biggest
lippoper: I think i was right
lippoper: :-)
pankkake: http://photos.teenplanet.org/content/atomicfrog/AF%20Pix/Udderly%20Insane%20Mix/853853577.jpg that one is just unfair…
twizt: cant see any of that
twizt: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 35 @ 0.02995081 = 1.0483 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149458.msg4761716#msg4761716 ☟︎
ozbot: [CRYPTO-TRADE] Crypto-trade.com IPO and official thread
mircea_popescu: so much fail
Dimsler_: sorry i'm back
benkay: y'all made me strip the babe down and lose like 2 hours of workable time
benkay: downsides of the home office
benkay: what was i doing again?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=439046.0 << they're writing books now.
ozbot: Our book gives you ★ PRIVACY ★ and ★ PRIZES ★
Dimsler_: lol contest
Dimsler_: honestly that entire forum is a den of theives, liars, and fraudsters
Dimsler_: mircea_popescu, what did they sell btct.co for anyway/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00089601 = 7.9297 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sold ? it was never sold.
mircea_popescu: it just shut down.
dub: What a viscous cycle.
mircea_popescu: lol
Apocalyptic: he's willing to sell it at least
herbijudlestoids: hullo
Neil: mircea_popescu: Seems I was right - bitbet gives you weight based on when bitbet processes the bet, not when the bet went in the blockchain... which is not good for extended downtime
herbijudlestoids: here is the distribution of 10 tick log normalised returns in MPOE for the last 2 days http://imgur.com/bGRhQW5
herbijudlestoids: looks like a good skew
pizzaman1337: 2 days isn't much of a sample size though, is it?
herbijudlestoids: similar formation to the 1 tick returns i plotted yesterday, seems like there is plenty of room for speculators
mircea_popescu: Neil yep
herbijudlestoids: pizzaman1337: all i got so far :) but youre right small sample size
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids looks remarkably centered tbh
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: returns definitely seem to skew positively, the distribution does not show the commonly taken levy form that i usually see, more like poisson distribution
mircea_popescu: virginal
herbijudlestoids: ?
herbijudlestoids: i want to construct some kind of benchmark index from the different assets and use that to build information ratios etc
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i mean, for prices to distribute normally it'd mean there;s not much meta activity going on
mircea_popescu: ie, virginal.
azi`: does anyone happen to have any experience with cryptostocks.com?
herbijudlestoids: financial timeseries vary rarely distribute normally
mircea_popescu: azi` yes. it's a scam.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids yeah.
azi`: mircea_popescu: why is it?
herbijudlestoids: anyway these are just play charts until more data comes, just to get myself familiar with ingesting it and processing it...
mircea_popescu: see for instance the sad story of their own selfipo, linked an hour ago. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2014#468657 ☝︎
pankkake: it's another one
mircea_popescu: no ?!
pankkake: CipherTrade, CryptoTrade, CryptoStocks
mircea_popescu: ow fuck.
azi`: so much of these sites these days
pankkake: https://btcinve.com/ https://www.litecoininvest.com/ too
ozbot: BTCInve
azi`: so many scams..
mircea_popescu: bad link azi. hang a second.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140700.0;all
ozbot: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Vircurex [VCX] - Going public
mircea_popescu: there's tons of other stuff, this one is funny because the guy running it pretty much stole each and every possible way.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00584957 = 0.2983 BTC [+] {5}
herbijudlestoids: sounds like old mrs clinton will be the next dem candidate
lewicki: tough act to follow...
mircea_popescu: she doesn't even get the benefit of pms
mircea_popescu: lol i see goat is putting a lot of effort into perhaps a comeback.
mircea_popescu: that should go over well.
mircea_popescu: Neil you getting pm at all ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04534966 = 0.4081 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2014-01-30/
ozbot: Dilbert comic strip for 01/30/2014 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 23 @ 0.03200207 = 0.736 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 22 @ 0.03200182 = 0.704 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 55 @ 0.02687298 = 1.478 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.02511116 = 0.3767 BTC [-] {2}
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: if the trading volume of MPex picks up considerably, will you still be streaming orders via assbot?
jurov: herbijudlestoids: assbot already aggregates orders
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04899989 = 0.245 BTC [+]
jurov: at least on his chan
jurov: but #assets-trades could get into trouble cuz flooding