benkay: <TheNewDeal> wtf is going on blockchain.info // have they gone evil yet?
TheNewDeal: haha possibly. I was just looking at the website and apparently only the first block on the top was refreshing. List read 306725 , 306719, 306718....
TheNewDeal: thought GHASH pulled a sneaky one and solved like 6 blocks in a row
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decimation: sucks :( I will take this as a reminder to test out my backup arrangements
Mats_cd03: in this instance, my brain was the failure mode
assbot: Moore's Law Goes To War: How Can The Department Of Defense Keep Pace With Changes In IT? | Brookings Institution
Mats_cd03: fucking academics... moore's law is dead
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assbot: Intel reveals its FrankenChip ARM killer: one FPGA and one Xeon IN ONE SOCKET The Register
decimation: it is interesting, but there's no word on the details, like dynamic reconfiguration
decimation: you think that won't be the case with this intel chip?
decimation: but... this is intel's solution to "open" arm competition. Why would they start with a proprietary toolchain?
decimation: no, but somehow according to the journalist companies like google would prefer to buy this intel fpga/cpu rather than an arm chip
decimation: I'm pretty sure altera makes an fpga with an arm core
BingoBoingo: Ah, features like an MMU aren't enough anymore. Now your need the pretense of "fast"
decimation: aside from the journalist, there is an implict admission from intel here ... "We have no idea how to organize the transistors on our chip, here - have an FPGA"
decimation: well, it's already happened on the mobile world - which is the only world selling chips in large quantities
decimation: intel's afraid that google et. al. will switch to arm in the server room - leaving the x86 market to ... nobody at all
decimation: even those xscale chips that flopped weren't x86 as I recall
decimation: yeah there's still the "computing" computing market that mostly uses xeons
decimation: but I don't think intel is going to survive on xeon chips alone
decimation: and the scientific computing market is not wed to microshit
decimation: so if there is a serious linux based alternative cpu for them -- they are gone
decimation: they still might sell some low end chips to idiots who want to run word or whatever
decimation: microsoft is pretty much in the same position
decimation: there are some games and business software that they have lock-in on
decimation: but that's also looking like a pretty niche market
decimation: intel market cap 150B; microsoft market cap 342B
decimation: at least intel can lease fabs to third parties
decimation: yeah this whole affair reminds me very much of os/2
decimation: except now microsoft is the out-of-touch monopoly with no ideas
BingoBoingo: The piece of software most damaging to progress in computing in history has probably been Microsoft Office
decimation: yeah that's true, the only organization on earth that will voluntarily use ms is the usg
decimation: "you want to get paid? well, you better write your TPS reports in MS so we can give you tax dollars"
decimation: this turns into "everyone" uses ms to transact business, we have no choice...
assbot: DOD saves $100M a year with new Microsoft licensing deal | Network World
TheNewDeal: that's like the people who clip out all the coupons and then go shopping to save money
decimation: if you total the amount of money spent on microsoft over the years, USG could have built its own secure OS and secure hardware to run it on
decimation: that's pretty much the mission statement of the nsa, gov't labs, et al
decimation: note that very little progress has been made
decimation: it is odd that one of the companies doesn't try to be open to get more market share
decimation: but it's probably the case that if you are correct - that these microcode patches may weaken usg's own infrastructure
BingoBoingo: I keep telling people an OpenSparc *nix netbook would sell
assbot: Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name.
decimation: I need to read Eco's book, I've seen it mentioned in many places
assbot: Mulling Iraq options: Begin by telling me which of these groups you want to bomb
decimation: plenty of hard drives have aes "built-in", supposedly
assbot: Stonewood's Eclypt Drive: the AES-256 Data Fortress
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atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 434630.21 in 476 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.24
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 58k High: 235 Low: 200 VWAP: 200
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.52, Best ask: 594.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 594.0, 24 hour volume: 5350.24576182, 24 hour low: 589.01, 24 hour high: 609.98, 24 hour vwap: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21000006 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0670001 = 1.34 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2}
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moiety: i didn't even know this site existed
BingoBoingo: moiety: All of the most interesting videos are on World sStar Hip Hop.
moiety: BingoBoingo: including "the killing of 16-year-old Chicago student Derrion Albert in 2009" < also didn't know that was allowed
BingoBoingo: moiety: It's pretty much certain parts of urban black 'Murica unedited
BingoBoingo: You know what's fucked up, Pedestrians in Google street view
BingoBoingo: Not in this neighborhood I'm browsing for apartments
BingoBoingo: Well, turns out at the right angle face is blurred
BingoBoingo: From that position Due East there is a girl. From this angle face is blured. Try noving North or South... No bluring
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assbot: Why didn't Julian Assange use PGP properly when handing over the US State Department cables.csv file to David Leigh ?? - WikiLeak
moiety: asciilifeform: to do an ama, reddit requires proof ... i wonder what form this took for assange
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moiety: they are very dedicated to fighting for their country but they don't seem to know truly why
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21999976 = 1.32 BTC [+] {3}
danielpbarron: 01:39:44 < Ex0deus> monetary incentive makes people do all the wrong things
punkman: asciilifeform: I liked that slide
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assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.88204254 BTC; +0.03342066 BTC (+0.0194%) since last check 7h 40m 44s ago.
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021706 BTC (Total: 434.14 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 18936 BTC profit, 51.7k BTC invested, 1260.27 mio bets, 5.31 mio BTC wagered
assbot: We’re Telling England There’s a Chance! | FiveThirtyEight
moiety: someone just told me the scottish accent was their favourite english accent -_-
moiety: i said that's like me saying the american accent is my favourite canadian accent
moiety: apparently they meant english language and just said it wrong....
BingoBoingo: No, it's like saying the Boston accent is your favorite Southern drawl
assbot: Scientists find Achilles' heel of antibiotic resistant bacteria - Telegraph
BingoBoingo: Which organism mentioned does not belong...
moiety: at least they are both in the same country
assbot: Draper Labs Develops Low Cost Probe To Orbit, Land On Europa For NASA - Slashdot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0689999 = 0.966 BTC [+]
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punkman: I'm surprised nothing more plausible than bitcoinbourse has come up yet
BingoBoingo: It's sad to have to say this, but as bad as it is Cryptostocks seems more plausible than bitcoinbourse
punkman: not many hitpoints left there
BingoBoingo: Well neither venture has many. The question is, which snail is the fastest.
BingoBoingo: Well, that was maybe two months ago. Now the question is "Which aquatic snail is the fastest on the Utah salt flats"
punkman: the omgdecentralized exchanges are keeping all the great minds occupied
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punkman: "NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS DUMP OR ANYTHING?"
BingoBoingo: punkman1: These fucking aussies who strike out on their own are a form of the worst.
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cazalla: BingoBoingo: didn't you know that the biggest Australian export after resources are bitcoin scams? (inputs.io, hair dresser ipos, kenilworth and on it goes)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15886 @ 0.00080343 = 12.7633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00080276 = 11.3189 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21209405 = 0.8484 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.20690622 = 4.5519 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.20575862 = 5.967 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: !up Vexual please get in the wot, i'll help you
Vexual: I'll be less fun if everything I write is signed
Vexual: and jurov might want the key when I sell my soul to him
Apocalyptic: <Vexual> I'll be less fun if everything I write is signed // you seem to have a misconception here
Apocalyptic: having a WoT account doesn't mean everything you write is signed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.205 = 0.615 BTC [-]
Vexual: afaik no such irc client is in the public domain
fluffypony: so with my flight to Estonia on Monday I have normal business class baggage limits - 32kg x2 checked, 8kg x2 hand luggage - but my local flight from here to Joburg has a 20kg *total* baggage limit
fluffypony is going to get shafted with excess baggage fees
Vexual: are they hard arse about it?
fluffypony: just phoned them - they'll increase my free limit to 30kgs
Vexual: just put all the gold in your hand luggage and think light thoughts
xmj: fluffypony: when are you boarding?
xmj: fluffypony: i haven't found the tailor yet. been busy all week
xmj: give me a call once you land
Vexual: what does one hunt in estonia?
Vexual: but where do you get the tweed?
fluffypony: it grows naturally in the tweed fields of Southern Estonia
xmj: see, he already knows more about the country i live in than i do.
xmj: fluffypony: you're flying from frankfurt with lufthansa
xmj: do yourself a favor and have fun with the stewardesses.
xmj: they're usually really cool
Apocalyptic: <fluffypony> for excellent Eastern European suits // curious, I never heard anyone praise EE suits before
xmj: whenever i fly fra<>tll i choose one of the last rows, and by the time they're done serving people hang out in the back and chat with them.
xmj: Apocalyptic: mainstream!
Vexual: too much ball touching
xmj: Apocalyptic: average salary level in estonia is 800EUR.
xmj: so you'll be able to find a real decent tailor for less than you'd spend in other places.
xmj: Apocalyptic: economics 101:D
Apocalyptic: xmj, when I go for excellent i don't look at the price
xmj: i work in IT, tshirts are permissible work clothes.
xmj: tshirts and shorts in summer ;)
pankkake: I wouldn't trust someone in IT with a suit
Apocalyptic: as you wouldn't trust someone in finance dressed in a tshirt supposedly
pankkake: I wouldn't trust anyone in finance!
Vexual: real IT people don't leave the house
Vexual: 150Kpa and get dressed? too much pressure
Vexual: it's all about bitcoins per square inch now
Vexual: anyone know about the gpg multi irc client?
moiety: no, here you just register with gribble, its really straight forward
Vexual: yes im talking of something else entirely
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Vexual: whats that about a month?
BingoBoingo: I have to say it looks like bid depth is back in fashion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10393 @ 0.00080343 = 8.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.068 = 1.088 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.06682465 = 0.6014 BTC [-] {5}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.06570882 = 1.5113 BTC [-] {4}
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moiety: we need manuls with lasers!
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.06361 = 1.9083 BTC [-]
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moiety: sorry my internet had a stroke
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00080111 = 18.8261 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19516873 = 5.8551 BTC [-] {8}
kakobrekla: >I just uncovered a problem. I'm using the API to trade. I'm generating orders, and they are accepted by Bitfinex, but thats the extent of it. I have an orderid, time stamp, and the response says the trade is active. They don't get processed, and the history doesn't get updated. I've sent an email to support, but was just wondering if anyone else has seen anything strange like this. Seems to have start after 4:30 this afternoon. Th
kakobrekla: last time a trade was written to my history.
BingoBoingo: Washboard is a startup whose business is you send them money, and they return to you less money!
los_pantalones: to be fair, the people in the photos look really happy
pankkake: I hate dealing with small monies, I usually leave the change - I don't mind paying "more"
pankkake: well this service does the reverse
BingoBoingo: Eh, the ATF is probably going to go after them when one of their customers fills a sock with their quarters and uses the product as a weapon.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 85 @ 0.01805932 = 1.535 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.19420000 / 0.21482589 / 0.22599900 (208 shares, 44.68378540 BTC), 7D: 0.18410000 / 0.21502034 / 0.25983989 (1039 shares, 223.40612862 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.25820242 / 0.50990000 (5201 shares, 1342.91079699 BTC)
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 58k High: 235 Low: 200 VWAP: 200
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15771 @ 0.0008015 = 12.6405 BTC [+] {2}
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mike_c: decimation:if you total the amount of money spent on microsoft over the years, USG could have built its own secure OS and secure hardware to run it on << on the other hand, they couldn't even build a fucking website with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Mats_cd03: usfg lubed up the wheels and now healthcare.gov works p good
Mats_cd03: prob compromised already, but hey...
assbot: ./SecondMarket and /BitcoinTrust now accepting orders for syndicate in US Marshals bitcoin auction. Details/access:
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assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021711 BTC (Total: 434.24 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
assbot: When people call you intelligent it is because they agree with you. Otherwise they just call you arrogant.
bitcoinpete: £80,000 per annum wouldn't be shabby if you didn't have to live in the city
mike_c: heh, the replies to all of karpeles recent tweets are great. what did he think was going to happen?
davout: the best for karpy would be the french "légion étrangère"
davout: new identity, free workouts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.74984813 BTC to 9`369 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
pankkake: I think he's a piñata, but with bitcoins inside his body
davout: pankkake: you mean he shouls be hung somewhere ?
assbot: Which stock securities do you recommend ?
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (281 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (2000 shares, 1.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00047 / 0.00048574 / 0.000525 (8628 shares, 4.19 BTC)
bitcoinpete: i mean, how could anyone have so many bitcoins?
mike_c: plus he got it wrong. it's MPEx, not MPex.
bitcoinpete: "^^MPex --> fake volume, site operator is dishonest and in SEC's crosshairs. Would avoid."
mike_c: btw, free money alert. mpif ask below nav.
assbot: BtcAlpha.com: Failed to get JD stats
pankkake: mike_c: well, that's jurov work
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021732 BTC (Total: 434.65 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: sometimes its fast sometimes it dosent happen at all
pankkake: I never followed bitfunder, but I wonder how it ended up as such a fractional reserve
pankkake: while I don't believe btctctc faked volumes
mike_c: kakobrekla: but that error handling! kudos to us :)
fluffypony: pankkake: railzand is cool, I know he reads logs
fluffypony: but he's pinged me with stuff from time to time
pankkake: railzand, why not in the WoT, mate?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 260 @ 0.01992805 = 5.1813 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: US college offers athletic scholarships to 'League of Legends' players | The Verge
pankkake: nice. well starcraft would be better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.0186 = 0.5952 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Schools Are Using Starcraft 2 as Serious Education Tools | Gamification Co
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.06361007 = 2.0355 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: <+mike_c> you add a bunch of A records in the DNS for active nodes. i'll let you know.// ah, i assumed i needed to place some sort of text file at the domain to get picked up, but i am somewhat comfortable with DNS so I can do that too if needed
mike_c: ok. i would like for some eager dev to port bitcoin-seeder, but nobody has volunteered yet.
mike_c: so maybe we just do it manually for now.
ThickAsThieves: <+bitcoinpete> "your use of vocab is the least impressive and your facts are skewed only to meet your own objectives." /// Stop being mean to Litecoin! (I just proposed a new bet that Dark(coin) will defeat Lite(coin) :)
ThickAsThieves: <+fluffypony> I already linked to the github repo for it /// i'm not sure what that means, tell me what to do!
benkay: good morning, assettes!
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 429352.57 in 441 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.98
empyex: FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 556 @ 0.00021733 100 @ 0.00021711 100 @ 0.00021710 100 @ 0.00021708
empyex: FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 10000 @ 0.00023850 56 @ 0.00023900 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000
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assbot: Yo, the World's Dumbest App, Hacked by Three College Students
kakobrekla: so tell me people, i need to make some api with signcryption model. should i go with sodium (ed25519), or just use pgp or something else? Curve25519 wont do (no signatures).
mike_c: just roll your own. new standard.
davout: kakobrekla: sodium sounds quite new
kakobrekla: with the message size? not really but shorter is generally better (but not for sake of security)
mike_c: ugh. shame on your family.
assbot: www.bitcoin-otc.com | 404 - Page Cannot Be Found
pankkake: gpg can do ecdsa, though it's not accessible by default
davout: pankkake: that's gpg2 only iirc
pankkake: using gpg gives you the option of multiple schemes
ThickAsThieves: <+punkman> last 3 Yes bets on bastille bet are losers ///i look forward to those bettors finding their way here to complain
assbot: Re: [openpgp] Curve3617 in OpenPGP? Beyond rfc6637.
davout: kakobrekla: one advantage i'd see with gpg is that it would be easier for humans to use it manually
davout: well, it doesn't hurt that it's easily testable by humans, just sayin
kakobrekla: yes but 99.99% of the time its used by machines, so lets optimize for that.
davout: pankkake: i have 1.4.13, doesn't seem to have any ECC enabled
pankkake: with gpg2 you have to enable expert mode
davout: kakobrekla: "yes but 99.99% of the time its used by machines, so lets optimize for that." <<< if you follow this logic, all APIs would be better off using some binary protocol instead of JSON :D
kakobrekla: i will do base64 encode of the json, motherfucker.
davout: your face is base64 encoded
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02069181 = 0.6208 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: Diablo-D3: i'm eating biscuits and gravy and it's the best thing ever
BingoBoingo: Why not. Seed the PRNG with randomized hippo matter.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I'm just chewing on some raw wheat like god intended.
davout: "i'm just eating an apple like god intended"
benkay: i'm interacting with the system gpg binary like god intended
pankkake: apples are ok, unlike the horrible things mentionned
ThickAsThieves: "Update your client, HARD FORK! Friday we will begin paying MasterNodes - Latest Client Stable: 9.10.1 and RC3 with Darksend is 10.10.1 - See downloads!" ~ Darkcoin developer
pankkake: is this the closed source altcoin that just repackages CoinJoin?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves please let's refer to it by its proper name: Darkcon.
fluffypony: I'll be over here in the Monero corner giggling evilly
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Isn't monero the same bullshit since it isn't Altcoin, the only worthwhile altcoin
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: it's not forked from Bitcoin, so that already makes for a change
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: Poloniex has the most volume
fluffypony: but when XMR is rocketing then often Bittrex is slow to catch up
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: doesn't even use the Bitcoin protocol
fluffypony: and the reference implementation thereof
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: So you descriminate against most derps then, reddit will nevar let you hear the end of it.
pankkake: also wallet and node are separate processes
pankkake: you can run multiple wallets on the same node etc.
fluffypony: and atm we're working on properly daemonising bitmonerod, because it only runs in interactive mode
fluffypony: and splitting simplewallet into rpcwallet (daemonised) and simplewallet (interactive CLI)
fluffypony: oh and it has a 24-word deterministic seed (based on Electrum's wordlist)
fluffypony: so that will make usagi-level fuck ups less likely
benkay: this one cpu one vote thing is pretty bs
fluffypony: benkay: ignore that part - the PoW is up for discussion anyway
fluffypony: it has DEFINITELY lowered the gap between CPU and GPU miners
pankkake: but as always, the useful/working things could just be ported to Bitcoin
fluffypony: pankkake: ring signatures would be INCREDIBLY kludgy in Bitcoin
benkay: anonymity is also a red herring
fluffypony: gmaxwell has a test implementation of it, but judging by his comments in #monero-dev he doesn't like its fit with BTC much
fluffypony: try a transaction, look at it on the blockchain explorer, and then see what useful info you can derive at a mixin of 0
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benkay: wow integer btc hitting the wc bets
benkay: fluffypony: it's not a use case for the vast majority of users, and for those who actually care solutions already exist.
benkay: lol what are the solutions going to disappear?
fluffypony: what are the solutions? coinjoin? mixers? stealth addresses? hoping that the recipient never leaks the tx id?
benkay: sending them to fresh addresses.
benkay: broadcasting txns like a boss
benkay: (that is to say quietly).
benkay: i tell you man, red herring.
fluffypony: and then when you buy your illegal drugs or your very legal banned-thing-in-the-country-in-which-you-live you send it TO someone from those fresh addresses, and they can figure out who you bought it from
fluffypony: I would hazard that buying offline is even more dangerous than OTC on IRC
benkay: who can figure out who i bought what from now?
fluffypony: benkay: when you are "buying coins offline" you're buying them FROM someone, no?
fluffypony: some fucktard from localbitcoins or mycelium or whatever
benkay: otc counts as offline imho
fluffypony: gubmint suspects you are dealing in illicit books, so they setup a sting to sell you BTC - they are now able to watch you spend those coins on said illegal books
fluffypony: because they are the ones selling to you
benkay: so...assume they've suborned one of my regular coin sources?
benkay: you have this whole story concocted that you're not sharing, man.
fluffypony: no story - I'm arguing that a use case will exist for untraceability (or optional traceability, if you will) in future
benkay: and i'm telling you i can buy coins untraceably right now.
benkay: unless my source is suborned.
benkay: in which case, even monero's SOL.
fluffypony: the Monero blockchain won't reveal your balance, when you spend, how much you spend, or on what
benkay: and all the btc blockchain shows is that some random addr got some coins at some point
benkay: and then that those coins went to a known drug dealer at another point
benkay: if the shipment gets intercepted on the way back to me, monero's not going to save my ass
benkay: you're not actually doing the attack surface analysis man
benkay: thing-im-not-supposed-to-have-#42
fluffypony: but you've just explained the problem in your example
fluffypony: if you're being targeted by "them" then they know "some random adde"
benkay: suborned my dealer, you're saying.
fluffypony: and then you launched forth into a circuitous argument
benkay: so the dealer can't say i sent coins to that address with monero?
pankkake: also the idea here is that by default everything you do is hard to track
benkay: that i did what now? sent coins to my drug dealer?
benkay: k - but what about the package interception?
benkay: the posession of illicit goods is what enforcement cares about, right?
fluffypony: depends - if you're talking about drugs, sure
fluffypony: stolen goods? they just care that you bought it
benkay: digital goods being stolen coins?
fluffypony: no - I mean if you're buying digital goods
benkay: but illegal iTunes that i'm not supposed to have?
fluffypony: so assuming that the delivery of the goods is not compromised
benkay: okay so the story is that i get busted for buying badTunes credits because i sent coins to the badTunes address?
benkay: yeah srs asciilifeform
fluffypony: well we'll see, I think time will tell whether untraceability is a desirous thing
benkay: i'm telling you that it's adequately doable right now that the sidechannels are the real risk, and that no amount of blockchainery is going to ameliorate your sidechannel risks.
benkay: can someone who's not a retarded american tell me if i'm off my fucking rocker?
benkay: retarded american child
benkay: (i'm not calling you names, fluffypony - that's me ridiculing myself)
fluffypony: I know you weren't, I'd have been surprised if you thought I was American :-P
benkay: i'm a wee bit more observant than that. but you know, ambiguity and IRC.
fluffypony: "YOU DIDN'T PUT A SMILEY ON IT, YOU MUST BE SAYING SOMETHING MEAN"
danielpbarron: how can law enforcement be sure it's you who spent the coins if you simply send them to an intermediate address first
fluffypony: danielpbarron: taint analysis - it's the reason that coinjoin and mixing isn't considered safe
benkay: danielpbarron: or for that matter if the addr in question's never been seen on the network, and you're not idiotic enough to associate it with any IP that could be associated with you.
assbot: Bitcoin Coinjoin Not Anonymous v01
danielpbarron: if i send funds to an address, you cannot be sure its my address; maybe i gave them away to a random address
fluffypony: nobody's forcing anyone to find Monero interesting
fluffypony: if you like maths and cryptography you may find our ongoing peer review of the CryptoNote whitepaper interesting
danielpbarron: if you pay your drug dealer from your coinbase wallet, that can be traced
fluffypony: I've gotta bounce, at a friend's house and we're going to go eat and drink
danielpbarron: and i suppose if you send from a machine that is associated with you, that could be traced
danielpbarron: but i don't see how the blockchain reveals any info that definitively associates the funds with you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00080393 = 7.3158 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
gribble: Current Blocks: 306867 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1580 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15544170485.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.46205
kakobrekla: its been so long since i used that cmd.
mike_c: BingoBoingo: cancel the celebration party.
moiety: hello :] how are you mircea_popescu?
moiety: very well, been snowed under but getting through everything :]
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (intel never once in its entire life published anything but a mockery of 'open source.' see their 'open' bios, for example.) << sadly. which is why everyone's on amd, really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've not bought anything intel the past 20ish years.
moiety: i'm still running intel celery because my laptop broke so back to an old one. it's dire!
ThickAsThieves: the gov gave them an easy revival, rename, rebrand, cool new name and jerseys and fans
ThickAsThieves: other than the expense of the change, i bet it works out well
ThickAsThieves: The Chicago Blackhawks declined to comment about the Washington Redskins' loss of trademark protection Wednesday
mircea_popescu: so after having their land stolen and later their population exterminated,
mircea_popescu: indians are now going to be erased from written record and culture too
mircea_popescu: peculiarly extensive implementation of damnatio memoriae srsly.
Blazedout419: Sad how overly sensitive the USA is these days
ThickAsThieves: interestingly, in a WoT/BTC/Mircean world, all bad things are permanent record
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: so gotta keep x86/winblows relevant somehow << can't imagine how that'd work. by now the stack is quite ample : x86 running windows to connect the owners of bitcents to reddit.
mircea_popescu: it's like... might as well consider the problems of the amiga universe.
ThickAsThieves: so i've been getting lost in the world of day traders lately, found some google hangouts where people do screen shares and voice chat about charts, etc
ThickAsThieves: i mentioned irc at one point, and someone asked, why dont you guys just use voice chat?
ThickAsThieves: which sparked my interest, maybe we should have an open line
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to argentina, australia and everywherew ?
ThickAsThieves: google hangouts are recorded in 8 hour sessions too, and able to be live broadcasted on youtube, so we've had some dialogues and such as 'entertainment'
mircea_popescu: by the way, re the intel thing and atari : in 1983, game consoles sold like 3bn dollars' worth (in 1983 dollars, like ten trillion today). by 1985, it was 100 mn (9x% drop)
mircea_popescu: decimation: "you want to get paid? well, you better write your TPS reports in MS so we can give you tax dollars" << "yeah but how about you don't have tax dollars to give in the first place"
mircea_popescu: the displacement of which bitcoin is keystone is really pretty large.
benkay: i can't wait until my taxable dollar amount is negligible
assbot: Why didn't Julian Assange use PGP properly when handing over the US State Department cables.csv file to David Leigh ?? - WikiLeak
mircea_popescu: later that day wikileaks gave up and actually dumped it too.
mircea_popescu: 'More interestingly, many Americans no longer even understand the concepts of loyalty and treason?again, not surprising, since for a few generations now they have been ruled by traitors, whose routine acts of betrayal are designed to benefit just about anyone?from Israeli arms smugglers to Afghani heroin dealers?except the people who supposedly elect them to office.' << that's not the why.
mircea_popescu: the why is that for an entire generation now they've been trained to falsely believe that hierarchy is arbitrary and evil, that submission is against human nature and forcing the inferior to submit inhuman etc scl.
mircea_popescu: that system of crud makes loyalty logically impossible.
benkay: someone talked us into trading leadership for democracy, with predictable results.
benkay: i spent my early twenties looking for a man worth my loyalty and then gave up.
mircea_popescu: remarkable how much orlov gets wrong given how much he notices.
benkay: well, worth loyalty and capable of leading.
benkay: not that i found any worth my time to begin with, so i don't even have a sample of potential masters to compare to each other.
benkay: this conversation just got mad gay.
mircea_popescu: i take girl to local bdsm brunch yesterday. bout fiddy local people, all very nice and friendly, some bar somewhere that you'd think you've died and it's greenwich village in 1980 all over again
mircea_popescu: there's this chick that looks just about 12 (and later confirmed her weight as 43 - !!! - kgs) that takes a liking to my girl, they chat, i buy them wine,
mircea_popescu: tells us all about how she's tried being a 2nd subbie in a relationship and it was ok but they ended it amiably and she's not looking for anything
mircea_popescu: meanwhile unattached in-their-own-oppinion dom guys tell me all about how alpha really they are, and then we leave.
mircea_popescu: with the kitten. who, mind you, gets up in a cab and drives away with two guys who are clearly foreigners, barely speak the language, and she's just met two hours prior in a bar at a bdsm munch.
mircea_popescu: past desperate attempts at cockblocking by the entire collected "alpha" population. apparently my chick's unstoppable and really fucking scary to boys.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 132.20522660 BTC to 77`492 shares, 170605 satoshi per share
benkay: i also had nothing to bring to the table for those years. arguably still don't.
benkay: but you're out shopping.
mircea_popescu: in spite of which she did everything all night long, i took her to breakfast and then dropped her off in the arms of her mothar.
benkay: ha so my time for story
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, please, by all means, even the story cunt a bit
mircea_popescu: im sick of reading nothing but my own stories in the logs
benkay: so last night i'm at the user group thing, making friends, introducing people to each other, the usual shit necessary to keep a user group's momentum up, and not one, not two but three people on whose skills and capabilities i've been sold for a while come up to me gently asking about opportunities to contract
mircea_popescu: cazalla: BingoBoingo: didn't you know that the biggest Australian export after resources are bitcoin scams? (inputs.io, hair dresser ipos, kenilworth and on it goes) << i've often thought of this. add patrick harnett and a whole other bunch of new zealand folk
benkay: separately, a local company'd killed off their division of programmers who work in this particular stack due to the 'difficulty' of finding them. several of these devs left their employers due to the boss' unwillingness to put steel behind the right technical decisions with clients.
benkay: and i'm sitting over here not exactly swimming in work but definitely a bit busy helping people who trust me to run the technical side of their businesses, and definitely overwhelmed by the talent seeking work with me.
mircea_popescu: so at this juncture you send the boss's boss a link to this log
benkay: just 'cause their boys want to hack with me doesn't mean i get to tell their old firm what to do.
benkay: well back up a sec - just what does that get me?
benkay: "neener neener i got yer best"?
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mircea_popescu: benkay gotta give the boss' boss the opportunity to make his own mistake.
mircea_popescu: sane boss approached with this, if it can be documented, cans the underboss that same day.
benkay: asciilifeform: i had no intention of giving that impression. i'd love to own a machine shop but I need a pile more capital to make that happen. ergo...software.
mircea_popescu: "you dumb fuck, i have to hear from random passerby';s how utterly you suck at your job ? go fuck a goad in the market, you're never working in this line again"
ThickAsThieves: Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i never saw proof they scammed anyone, if that helps.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell nubbins [16:11] <+ThickAsThieves> Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins?
gribble: Error: "16:11" is not a valid command.
benkay: it's not that bad a move from their perspective, mircea_popescu. if they want to chase milli+ contracts that run only on .NET and POJ, that's a legit business move.
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell nubbins` [16:11] <+ThickAsThieves> Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins?
gribble: Error: "16:11" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: so then, maybe you're running the local bitter loser group, and the fleet sailed long ago. who's to know.
benkay: hey you think i leave details out of stories you should have seen fluffypony earlier
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell nubbins` Anyone know anything about Titan Bitcoin silver & gold coins?
benkay: mircea_popescu: i thought lispers were all bitter losers to begin with
benkay: but also i'm running a different, longer play.
mircea_popescu: arguably not as losers but bitterer than the other type o coders, but anyway
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic: having a WoT account doesn't mean everything you write is signed << why not ? inasmuch as only you could have written it...
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: just phoned them - they'll increase my free limit to 30kgs << fuck them, assholes. seems all short distance is covered by this sort of low service "low cost" bs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more often than you'd think. prices have really come down
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.MPOE
mircea_popescu: well, for one if you fly high enough you don't actually have to report
mthreat: i saw that building after he hit it. It was the IRS building, and he targeted it on purpose
mircea_popescu: My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions.
mircea_popescu: srsly, the notion that there exists such a thing as "plain language"...
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'd love to have a voice channel, but I think it would work better if we scheduled it - like a session every two weeks or something?
mike_c: i think it's somewhat valid. plain = not a lot of jargon.
mircea_popescu: basically the problem of intelligent people is that the knowledge needed is so vast... i could readily render the pretense and nonsense of it, but i don't have the time/patience to hang out in every nook and cranny.
mircea_popescu: mike_c "plain language" is the conceptual equivalent of "measurement in se". how long is your desk ?
mircea_popescu: so can i use the even-ness of the 129th digit in your measurement reliably ?
mircea_popescu: there's nothing plain about language just like a measurement isn't the thing measured.
mircea_popescu: mike_c and the "not a lot of jargon" thing is roughly like the vietnam forest without a lot of vietcong in it.
mike_c: for sure, you can't speak about things intelligently with plain language. i can't tell you what's wrong with your computer in plain language.
mike_c: so i guess it's a euphimism for dumb language.
mircea_popescu: moreover, and more dangerously : a term of art that has a common speech homophone will only notify those in the know of its status
mike_c: you can't. nor can you specify the tax code in plain language.
mircea_popescu: i use the plainest language of anyone i'm aware of, and yet people claim you need a degree to argue with me. wtf is that all about.
☟︎ mike_c: it's a starting point, not an endpoint.
mircea_popescu: my z80 keyboard had plain language on it : load, merge, save etc
mircea_popescu: it's great for humour this. "does your desk make your back hurt ? press backspace!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06380004 = 1.1484 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each
mircea_popescu: other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made.
mircea_popescu: for the record, had occasion to punish girly to cat food only diet for a week or so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06380043 = 0.5104 BTC [-] {4}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06498295 = 0.5199 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the reason for that'd be that sheep never make good wolves in the first place.
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Azelphur: asciilifeform: that site served me the wrong image the first time I loaded the page...so confusing
Azelphur: it served me a screenshot of a small businesses website that creates embedded art firmware/software
Azelphur: asciilifeform: oh, then I'm confused
benkay: i'm surprised MP didn't get more 'smooth talker' noms
mircea_popescu: inexplicable why it's so easy for scammers on that forum.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 179 @ 0.03847462 = 6.887 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Same here. I think IQ is bullshit and is a way of the gevernments to bracket us. Qualifications are a load of crap too. Who need a piece of paper to tell people that they can create the next "E=MC Squared"."
ThickAsThieves: "Crowdfunding has shown that ANYONE can create or innovate. Not just greedy corporations."
mircea_popescu: remarkable how similar the start and end of civilisation are. sorta like the start and end of man's life.
mircea_popescu: is there any actual anything done via crowdfunding so far ?
mircea_popescu: so basically, for as long as other people cook, crowdfounding can continue to make the tomato roses.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: ugh. shame on your family. << bitcoin-otc isn't really intended for
https anyway is it. or am i missing your point ?
mike_c: my point was it is using cloudflare
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mircea_popescu: myeah. giving the site ot mr evil doesn't hurt anything on a plaintext site.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: conveniently occurring just as the price topped << anything having taaki involkved and not being a scam ?
assbot: Anarchistic Anonymous Dark Wallet Creator: Amir Taaki | Max Keiser
ThickAsThieves: The brainchild behind Darkcoin, Evan Duffield, explained his motivation for creating this privacy-oriented crypto-currency:
ThickAsThieves: “I believe the central problem with Bitcoin is that the public ledger, although a remarkable accomplishment, also allows a gross invasion of personal privacy by permanently listing all transactions the users have ever done publicly.”
mircea_popescu: he's definitely misreading what bitcoin does, for that matter.
ThickAsThieves: Evan Duffield has given much praise to the Dark Wallet project that was spearheaded by crypto-anarchists Cody Wilson and Amir Taaki, but stated that "it's not a completely decentralized approach.”
mircea_popescu: it's sad how many promising young minds are ruined by the predilection of young minds for bad associations
ThickAsThieves: DarkCoin uses 11 rounds of different hashing functions
mircea_popescu: so you have a guy's affidavit that he sent me 10 btc to addy x in tx y.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see any evidence whatsoever is th problem
mircea_popescu: sothe 10btc is... moved to my wallet, from which a diff sum is spent on whatever, baby squirrel tears. so what now ?
mircea_popescu: it's deposited to mpex, and a sum withdranw to pay for same. so... what ?
mircea_popescu: if they ask you who you sold them to, you give them the name of the prosecutor in charge.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing affidavits, prosecutor is welcome to an affidavit as to how he himself bought.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as bitcoin taint. attempts to solve this inexistent problem, just like all the other attempts to solve inexistent problems in the history of human engineering
mircea_popescu: many many MANY genius minds wasted most of their time in pursuit of similar nonsense.
mircea_popescu: no *coin or wallet* will ever solve the ussr-ness of the usa
mircea_popescu: that doesn't make them less of a waste of, presumably, valuable brain gasoline.
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fluffypony: how come mircea_popescu doesn't have one?
mircea_popescu: i r just saying so it's said. not intending to persuade.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i didn't have the time to log into rift even past two weeks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06380017 = 0.7656 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: basically illustrating the hostory of our window into bitcoin
fluffypony: asciilifeform: yes I recognise the same
mircea_popescu: actually a pretty good pic of her huh, she's like the mother of disdain
kakobrekla: 15k domains guy know all about bitcoin guy is missing :(
ThickAsThieves: it'd be $17 per design to do 100 double-sided UV coated trading cards
kakobrekla: i remember from childhood, sets of cards that were single, unique game sets
mircea_popescu: similarly to <kakobrekla> i remember from childhood, sets of cards that were naked women
benkay: the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125
benkay: i wonder if they're printed first and then turned into cans or what.
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqqpqahqadiceog', is identified as user 'mats', with GPG key id B9527964891A5566, key fingerprint B37F49DC35FD838B1F8783CC59C93F63549036BD, and bitcoin address None
benkay: ah, that's how you're doing it.
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot Mats_cd03
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot mats
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mats has been recorded.
benkay: overwhelming rate tsunami
benkay: with php for evaluation?
punkman: so I just put together something to test betting strategies on past bitbets and guess what, betting 0.1 on No on all resolved bets would result in a net gain of 9.7 BTC
☟︎ punkman: I'm just looking at bets with result = No
punkman: total net gain is 36.3 BTC, then I subtracted 26.6 BTC that I would need for the 266 bets that had result = Yes
punkman: 0.1 is the magic number, 0.2 leaves you with only ~4 BTC net gain
punkman: 0.08 on everything also gives ~10 BTC, 0.05 gives 8.5 BTC
kakobrekla: 0.1 on all resolved would mean like 75btc
punkman: yep pretty good strategy eh
assbot: How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: how is betting no on everything random?
kakobrekla: well it could be that yes will pay for the next two years
kakobrekla: given the bitcoin community state, id say that is unlikely
punkman: yes now that I've revealed this amazing strategy people will phrase propositions differently and ruin it
punkman: mike_c: my rng is really bad
punkman: but my point was that betting randomly will not break even
punkman: unless you are flipping a really bad coin
kakobrekla: wait until bitbet processes infinite amount of bets.
mthreat does this appear in the log
mthreat: if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours
mthreat: who runs log.bitcoin-assets ?
mthreat: cool.. i'll hit up said schmuck once it's live, and maybe we can have whatever process adds to the log also send it to the search engine, so it'll be instantly searchable
mthreat: i haven't before, but if it's easy to do from java, then yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20971806 = 1.0486 BTC [+] {5}
mthreat: ok, or i can set up an
http endpoint where you can POST irc entries as they come in
kakobrekla: tbh i dont think its an issue if sync is done daily or so
mike_c: ^ agreed. pretty easy to search today's log.
mike_c: it's just looking for something said X weeks ago that's a pita
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+]
benkay: but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla
mthreat: benkay: ya, who runs assbot?
gribble: Nick 'assbot', with hostmask 'assbot!~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot', is not identified.
mike_c: who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills?
mike_c: asciilifeform: so you're saying they filled up some duffel bags and walked out with $400m? that must have been heavy.
mike_c: yeah. 4m bills / 450 grams per lb
mike_c: ok. that computes. seems like a logistical nightmare though. who guards the dump truck with $400m in it?
mike_c: somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going.
mike_c: and also, fu linux. g++: internal compiler error: Killed
assbot: Context Switches are Bad, but Stack Traces are Worse
mike_c: you know, without the annoying manager.
benkay: python is a code smell
benkay: ^^ new favorite incendiary device
benkay: lob it at a bunch of programmers, watch the sparks
benkay: fuck if i know, but everyone gets riled up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0649 = 0.7788 BTC [-]
benkay: "Code smells are usually not bugs—they are not technically incorrect and do not currently prevent the program from functioning. Instead, they indicate weaknesses in design that may be slowing down development or increasing the risk of bugs or failures in the future."
mike_c: kakobrekla: you know bitcoind apparently takes in amounts in fucking btc, not satoshis? you probably knew this. this is retarded.
mike_c: news flash: bitcoind sucks.
benkay: working with bitcoin stuff makes me want types in a bad way
gribble: Current Blocks: 306914 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1533 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15853327045.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.75846
TheNewDeal: thought I was one on one with gribble there
Mats_cd03: assets search engine? already exists
Mats_cd03: ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com dongs
Mats_cd03: even works in channel, how nice is that?
benkay: oh c'mon let mthreat be useful
benkay: quit pissing in errybody cheerios
Mats_cd03: my life sux wut m i gonna do besides criticize people
benkay: dunno boss maybe learn haskell?
TheNewDeal: wooooh there. I've seen haskell fuck the hottest chicks
Mats_cd03: my year long vacation from employment is about to end
TheNewDeal: oooh I pulled a 6 month stint last year
Mats_cd03: anyone want to buy me a nice collar?
TheNewDeal: how do I know it's not going to end up with hookers and blow though?
mthreat: haskell has a purpose ya know. at UT Austin it (was) used as a freshman weed-out class.
mike_c: so, g++ was crashing because not enough memory. it couldn't just tell me that? have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory?
benkay: Mats_cd03: what kinda IT do you do?
benkay: mike_c: you could be trying to run Jira yourself on the JVM. "not too little memory, not too much. just...right."
benkay: i suspect when one pays for hosted jira someone is staring at htop and intervening manually.
Mats_cd03: i administered win machines and a few linux boxes for the nerds in the clean room at my last IT job
Mats_cd03: along with misc work that comes with being lowest tier monkey in dept
mike_c: benkay: ugh. sounds worth paying for.
Mats_cd03: im learning puppet so perhaps i can buy myself a nice collar
benkay: if you make pilgrimage to puppet hq make sure you ping me - beers on my tab
Mats_cd03: i spent most of the last year doing firmware haxn in hopes id be good enough to apply for like jobs
TheNewDeal: holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [+]
benkay: 30 -> 229: it's gotta be Quantitative Easing
benkay: whats the qt you're talking about - not the UI kit?
Mats_cd03: im sayn youre a cutie for offering a drink
TheNewDeal: QE is definitely pumping the stocks at the moment
benkay: it's been a queer day, Mats_cd03 - it's not your fault.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06424997 = 0.514 BTC [+] {4}