pete_dushenski: probably one in a generation/century/millenium type of thing
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thestringpuller: if sim city has taught me anything: cut taxes to 0, make factories everywhere and have them pay the bills
pete_dushenski: so jurov, how do i transfer my s.qntra to coinbr? id by incoming btc address?
jurov: pete, just id here and pm me your acct
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jurov: not like someone will hijack your irc just to steal qntra crumbs
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: for some reason saying no is harder in -assets. << cult!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the maniacal fuhrer position is, afaik, open at the moment << was shockley's transistor a cult ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, one of the most cultish cults were the ancient order of pythagoreans
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (spoiler: pretty much everyone who is known to matter, is in leibniz, gauss, etc. 'wot.') << in this sense, the hungarian number = crude wot.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "you can never say only say true things" eh ?
mircea_popescu: jurov apparently he wants to tattoo it on his body too.
mircea_popescu: something something magic packets something something internet funbutts.
mircea_popescu: if everyone gets that tattooed, say on their butt, is the b-a more like a) a cult with weird body mod overtones ; b) a gaggle of ditzy teenaged girls (and therefore, a buncha fags) ; c) none of the above ?
mircea_popescu: not that many penises around long enough for that. maybe if in chinese script ?
mircea_popescu: end up with "dogsons of broken soup bowl" or something.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> if sim city has taught me anything: cut taxes to 0 << srsly, you too ?!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if everyone gets that tattooed, say on their butt, is the b-a more like a) a cult with weird body mod overtones ; b) a gaggle of ditzy teenaged girls (and therefore, a buncha fags) ; c) none of the above ? < b
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mircea_popescu: summary of pete_dushenski last piece : "cult member casually examines the possibility of being in a cult, comes back negative."
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have two poor quality "trenching tools" have a strong preference for actual shovels though.
BingoBoingo: Oh, how I've learned that, worthless for unburying potatoes
PeterL: mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: look at Detroit: high taxes, city is crumbling - Detroit Suburbs: lower taxes, flourishing
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tuna doesn't smell. everything else does.
mircea_popescu: PeterL it's an expression, referencing the case when putin handed obimbo's butt to him for the nth time and the english propaganda yelled "putin doesn't understand how the world works!"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: actual shovel, like actual computer, is not field-portable. << Depends on the size of field, and on whether or not portage enhancers are available
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well if i came back positive in my assessment, i'd send myself down the post-partum path. wasn't really in the mood for that.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski better question for your next one : is being a libtard a cult ? how about dating, is that a cult ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL use example, dude tries to open a door by bashing his head against it. bystander "that's not how you open doors" other bystander to first bystander "you don't understand how the world works!"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu not sure about dating but libtardism, scientism, nationalism... examples are endless
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: knapsack. << When restricted to a knapsack I dunno that digging anything bigger than a hole to bury turds should be a bigger priority than evading the force restricting you to a knapsack
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Never published anything co-authored, because he was in a weird niche
mircea_popescu: Then, as always happens when one is freed from the banality of the familiar, I found myself with some spare time during a vacation in Mazatlán. Then, there, just like that, the pieces began falling into place. I actually sat down to read the #b-a logs and there I saw conversations unfolding before my very eyes that gave context to Trilema, that gave context to Bitcoin, and that were were so tearfully, blessedly, beaut
mircea_popescu: ifully over my head that I couldn’t read anything else for weeks. As someone always hunting for an intellectually challenge, I’d never seen anything even remotely like #b-a. At once technical, philosophical, political, and outrageous, it was like a gift wrapped for someone else, and yet just for me.
BingoBoingo had in addition to math prof with Erdos of nope, an econ professor with an office in the loft of the campus's old barn
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stop trying to break things and write me an email.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> when do we get on with one of us proving p==np and the others throwing him off a boat? << I have a feeling this is like weaponized bitcoind, if you have it best to keep it concealed
mircea_popescu: "The new Foundation, the new deeds system, a real Bitcoin news site, and more" << only the stuff of the past month gets a mention because the previous stuff is so ingrained by now it's like a skin.
mircea_popescu: shit fuck piss motherfucker and tits! this bastard called me insane! YOU DARE SAY INSANITY OF OUR PRODUCTIVE INSTITUTION ?!?!?!
ben_vulpes: <******> as long as there are tools, there will be people using them poorly << i give up
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ben_vulpes: people cannot be saved form themselves.
ben_vulpes: he's not in a logged channel, i'll refrain from sharing his handle.
ben_vulpes: nobody who's ever been in here though.
mircea_popescu: ima steal it then, to me it sounds like something i'd say.
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mircea_popescu: "He’s one of the most masterful wielders of words" << you got a ways to go foxy! check out pete's offerings!
mircea_popescu: so i was with this chick earlier, her parents had the weird idea of calling her Modesty
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mircea_popescu: if this thing ends up surpassing trilema ima be well pissy.
BingoBoingo: I think maybe it's a spambot that saw a word and forgot to link to Ugg boots or Nike's
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski im gonna have this read weekly in the harem, outloud. just ftr.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe you need to consider whose ego you stroke, before you go a stroking an ego...
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu anyways, i look forward to seeing it acted, off-script, next time i'm in town
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if this thing ends up surpassing trilema ima be well pissy. << why? ~_~ you technically willed it's existence.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu we obviously have different ideas of how a harim should work ;)
BingoBoingo wonders if pete_dushenski did his turkish homework yet
jurov: pete, our resident pimp
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu what's to tell? acting, staging, and memorizing are not optional.
pete_dushenski: every bit as useful as a sense of humour and a second language
mircea_popescu: (you think tying a chick down is easy ? try it sometime! it;s fucking impossible if you're determined not to hurt her)
mircea_popescu: if you're talking slavegirl, you can just order her to move around as needed. but still it's not trivial.
mircea_popescu: few hours' practice with this will make pretty much any western film involving tying anyone unwatchable.
mircea_popescu: that "put some rope on them, they're imobilized now" convention doesn't really work irl.
BingoBoingo: csshih: What's your online retailer again?
BingoBoingo bookmarks site, because x-mas is coming in 4 months or some shit
mircea_popescu: still dun sound right. means is like police, plural only.
jurov: no it's actually effervescent mean
mircea_popescu: it'd be pretty rad if people were like "and then this single polic jumped me"
pete_dushenski: historical footnote, "police" was the first word i could actually spell other than my own name
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i can spell your name, just can't pronounce it!
mircea_popescu: i imagine indian kids have it the worst. i've seen some pretty gnarly shit.
pete_dushenski: though my grandpa got a kick out of my counting to 10 in romanian this weekend. correct pronounciation and all :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu lol i learned it auditorally so spelling wasn't a problem
bounce: relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten!
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jurov: bounce, die blinkenlichten
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jurov: or maybe something else, as it's akuzativ
bounce will now out throw jurov and kick him anderswhere!
jurov wirft eingige mozartkugeln and mircea_popescu
bounce: wir sind vom idiotenklub/ und laden herzlich ein/
bounce: google is just too SMRT
jurov: ;;google idiotenklublied
jurov: ;;google idiotenklub
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BingoBoingo: Who seriously knew last year's ship date was a distraction while a whole fucking factory was being built in the swamp?
BingoBoingo: But, still. Did asciilifeform actually reinvent the Luer lock, or was S.NSA working on darker magic already? These are the mysteries to be unveiled after the war is won.
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BingoBoingo: Of course they get read. It's just... luer lock being a thing with a name I could have swore was the rare s.nsa detail that in the statement could have been shelf pointed to sooner if more transparent.
BingoBoingo might have switched to write only mode. spent the morning driving distances. Brain is still recovering.
jurov: reddit police noticed the bitcoin foundation
jurov: if i did not set up alarm, wouldn't have noticed
jurov: i dont have cloudflare but aws. nothing really happened, it just paints nice graphs
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but what of the reddit dogcatcher? he noticed? << You forget the most dangerous police variety in most US states, the fish and game cop.
BingoBoingo: They almost always get to presume probably cause in search
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jurov: yes cloudfront... but they seem to unable to sustain even their feeble attempts
jurov: going to sleep..goodnight!
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decimation: BingoBoingo: I hear from folks who would know in Ohio that the most competent police there are the fish & game cops
mircea_popescu: <jurov> if i did not set up alarm, wouldn't have noticed <<< i imagine this sounds better in german :D
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, here in Illinois they get all kinds of powers to do warrantless searches
mircea_popescu: "Teen Twitter (the most powerful force in the universe)" << really ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, the which star/starlet can we push to break the cocaine imbibed by 23 record universe
mircea_popescu: anyway, gawker, nov 4th. "But it's hard to tell if anyone is even real anymore." mp, sep 13th "I want the average redditor to understand that when he interacts with a screen name, he is not interracting with a person."
Vexual: Ben I must thank you for getting me back on grapes
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> such coincidences. << Well, more than even killing Coindesk isn't a point of Qntra ending gawker?
decimation: something like: Wenn ich nicht den Alarm aufgestellt habe, würde ich es nicht bemerkt.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Basically in the 1990's Nick Denton amassed a warchest of bezzel bucks. Then he hired bored housewife to stalk celebrities for initial traffic. After that sustaining gawker was a matter of keeping the bills paid.
BingoBoingo: The contemporary idea of the incredibly PC media mafia after the bush election exists as a creature of Nick Denton's creation
BingoBoingo: it is important to note the present incarnation of that crowd was not sparked by HUffington, Digg, or Reddit, but in Nick Denton's constant reinvestment in Gawker media.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: verizon dns << didn't they announce that they would helpfully insert friendly cookies in your
http stream?
decimation: BingoBoingo: it would be interesting to have a directory (with pictures) of those who call the shots in the media today
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mircea_popescu did you mean to put an "
https" link for the Qntra link on the prospectus on the MPEx listing?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Maybe once I set up a homestead in more civilized lands
BingoBoingo: If Buterin's waterfall takes too long to dry prolly some land that habla Castellano
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> The contemporary idea of the incredibly PC media mafia after the bush election exists as a creature of Nick Denton's creation << hm. sort of like anti-drudge ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Worse. Drudge didn't spend the entire 1990's getting merit washed.
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decimation: BingoBoingo: so he's kinda like the walter lippmann of this era?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I think of Denton more as the mirror image of the Koch Brothers, but that's a very imperfect correspondence.
BingoBoingo: Denton writes rarely, but when he does criticizes Gawker authors for their economic liberalism.
decimation: has anyone here upgraded to openbsd 5.6?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Not yet, will order disks this month, prolly
TheNewDeal: So I'm reading this conversation about programming languages from 7 days ago (28-10-2014). There is a lot of trash talking about OOPs, like C++. I don't see anyone mention C. Is C just not worth mentioning?
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BingoBoingo: Don't worry everyone has until new years day to learn C and enter
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> don't look for the 'incompetent c contest.' it's right there on your desk. << It's everywhere
TheNewDeal: is it akin to what Naggum was saying on C++ , that it's too tough for people to handle?
TheNewDeal: But there's not hundreds of thousands of people going around writing "Can lift a volkswagen efficiently" on their CV
decimation: yeah reading that book improved my C coding because it explained wtf was going on and why
TheNewDeal: not mentioned in the programming discussion
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TheNewDeal: I took a class that was all about MIPS, but it got over my head at the end. I was a mech engr stuck in a class of comp sci students
decimation: C is more-or-less a fancy set of macros around assembly
devthedev: I was planning on writing for CryptoDeck less formally, more for fun and qntra more formally but I kinda got burnt out.
thestringpuller: devthedev: I can tell. Last article published was Oct. 17. lol
decimation: supposedly they were treated 'lightly' because they volunteered
decimation: lol they were dinged for exporting ipsec?
devthedev: thestringpuller: I may just sell it, I don't have as much time as I'd like to devote to it.
decimation: tyranny - usg fines a company for exporting that which is easily downloadable everywhere. anarchy - usg pretends it cannot investigate welfare fraud
devthedev: It would be just the domain essentially.
BingoBoingo: <devthedev> It would be just the domain essentially. << Problem is the first 5 letters of the domain are too popular
Vexual: asciilifeform did you ever get you hands on one of those first ibm branded xts?
decimation: my first computer was an epson XT knockoff
decimation: as I recall it cost around $2k in the late 80's
thestringpuller: I still have it. It's all boxed up. I just need a PS/1 keyboard but those are hard to find.
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decimation: it was the best thing my family bought me, I learned dos, played kings quest & space quest, learned to write in wordperfect
decimation: my dad had a 'real' ibm AT at work, I was impressed by the built-like-a-tank chassis
Vexual: they were quickly liberated from govenment offices here
decimation: yeah I use a knockoff (unicomp) myself
thestringpuller: yea I used one of those. I wanna get the one with the mouse in the middle (like on the think-pads) for my desktop.
thestringpuller: co workers hated the clicking but damn it was a slick keyboard
decimation: if you search the logs there are pointers to folks who have hardware projects that interface ibm ps/2 keyboards made in the 80's to usb
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> So I'm reading this conversation about programming languages from 7 days ago (28-10-2014). There is a lot of trash talking about OOPs, like C++. I don't see anyone mention C. Is C just not worth mentioning? <<< c is really not ~that~ bad.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal people generally hate c++ for reasons and c by extension.
mircea_popescu: arguably c doesn't do much to help the programmer not be stupid. then again, it doesn't actually force them to be dumb. sort of like asm, and nobody really hates asm.
mircea_popescu: well, i just sent you one, should be a tab opened somewhere next to where it says #bitcoin-assets
decimation: a few years ago I tried to make an edit to wikipedia's 'climate change' entry. a similar down's syndrome case guards that page - immediately reverting any non-libtard edit
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decimation: at any rate, one cannot consider themsleves a programmer today without knowing C
decimation: perhaps in the future it will not be so
decimation: asciilifeform: but, that's new jersey style!
thestringpuller: decimation: at any rate, one cannot consider themsleves a programmer today without knowing C << unfortunately not a lot of people learn C in what you may call "computer science education" (or is so named)
mircea_popescu: decimation you don't understand. for him, matter of life and death. that's how he eats.
dgeats: !up BingoBoingo, happy to be here
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decimation: yeah "C" was going out of style when I graduated in the early 2000's, CS was converting to full-java
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this is pretty much the stance. you have to seek it out, if you want to learn it. I guess what they are producing are not programmers at that point?
decimation: one wonders what the point of using open source OS's would be if you can't read C
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Google's Android has a linux kernel and BSD libc
decimation: heh yeah there are so many distro's and tard-libraries in linux
decimation: asciilifeform: here's the link for what you are getting at:
http://www.colorforth.com/POL.htm " Now we get down the the nitty-gritty. This is our first clash with the establishment. The conventionsl approach, enforced to a greater or lesser extent, is that you shall use a standard subroutine. I say that you should write your own subroutines. "
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i think when I was 9 it was like 4 weeks allowance to get Borland or whatever C compiler they were selling at the time.
decimation: one of my friends would call AOL every day for a free "introductory" floppy every day
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> under rusty old msdos one can, generally, actually program in c << because, again, if i want to kil a ms-dos dependency I DELETE THE FILE
decimation: yeah it's really really tiresome to live in someone else's fucktarded world
decimation: asciilifeform: actually this is an interesting point. Why does every platform insist on dynamic libraries?
decimation: somehow Mr. Moore can write a chip-design tool in a few hundred lines of forth
decimation: yet it takes like 50 megabytes to instantiate Xeyes?
decimation: yeah, I guess in this case the 'cargo-cult' is building a wooden global namespace
decimation: but my 8088 did that running at 8 mhz in wordperfect
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BingoBoingo: ^ Macs at one point almost really were real computers
decimation: "But suppose everyone wrote their own subroutines? Isn't that a step backward; away from the millenium when our programs are machine independent, when we all write in the same language, maybe even on the same computer? Let me take a stand: I can't solve the problems of the world. With luck, I can write a good program. "
decimation: this is probably the most rational approach toward the modern c-machine
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would "we". jesus burn every text with we in it already.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, then they sold their soul to IBM
mircea_popescu: maybe our fucking should be all machi^H^H^H^H^H woman independent also ?
decimation: I want someone to draw a cartoon: young man approaches greybeard lounging under a tree: greybeard - why do you laze instead of being productive? - He says: you try to make something useful - off the young one goes through trial and tribulation - eventually, ending up under a tree.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform opens koraktor, bound in human skin, and searches for a death spell for google << wot based search. working towards it.
mircea_popescu: all these fucktards with the "blockchain technology" have no fucking idea even what the technology actually is
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> *: asciilifeform opens koraktor, bound in human skin, and searches for a death spell for google << wot based search. working towards it. << Caled it when you asked about crawling millions of urls
BingoBoingo: Next time I'll sign the hash of the prediction
mircea_popescu: decimation: C is more-or-less a fancy set of macros around assembly <<< this is actually pretty much it.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah the "crawlers" are human beings
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just like cars are a steel banded joining of the walking of people ?
mircea_popescu: at some point you gotta put an engine in there somewhere.
mircea_popescu: decimation: as I recall it cost around $2k in the late 80's << ahh, the days when a shitty mouse was 100 bux.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> da fuck is platonic hardware supposed to be << Aristotle's natal cleft
decimation: in your room-sized FPGA, there is probably a spot for a few 'risc' finite automata
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> catch is, you have to... burn the world. << How many people here are seriously opposed to this condition
BingoBoingo: Shhhhh, you are about to spoil the part where the hittites surprise pete_d with iron weapns
BingoBoingo: Ordinary only in pathophysiology, not in affect
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BingoBoingo: The problem is encountering the actual mythical good is always a dissapointment.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the kid who gets his first fuck - also disappointed << rly ?!
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Shhhhh, you are about to spoil the part where the hittites surprise pete_d with iron weapns << the hittites never had iron. you're thinking the franks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe the Assyrians? Some sort of Turk turnt out the Jew bronze with their Iron.
decimation: re: design space << so part of the problem with "C" is that it tends to occupy this mental design space rapidly
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mircea_popescu: "the iron! my god, the iron!" spoken in italia by the degenerate successors of the latins.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> what about 'damascus steel'? << 4 digit number of years innovation
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decimation: yeah I think it was more "steel" than steel
mircea_popescu: swords are like computers - they only work for some grades of si
mircea_popescu: anyway, tardpedia's fascination with the east and white-hating notwithstanding, steel is a western invention.
decimation: yeah I saw some documentary about japanese sword-making - that steel is closer to steel, but nowhere near modern quality
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> primitives succeeded in making steels of a kind, from naturally carboniferous wootz traded along, e.g., silk road << Wootz yes, low hanging fruit. When I read Damascus though I think laminate forging process
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairnes, the gypsies did show real talent in working with zamak,
mircea_popescu: so much so they got dragged all over to europe by various turkic people.
decimation: the turks conquered Byzantium and then headed east?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course, but also the product normally refered to now as "Damascus" steel
mircea_popescu: decimation the golden crescent is this pulsing heart of human civilisaiton.
mircea_popescu: the most recent pulse went in all directions, just about to india.
mircea_popescu: was some sort of columbus of metallurgy. little is known.
mircea_popescu: come to think about it : the original siege cannon was carried by two dozen oxen, fired twice a day, had to be cooled with hlf a ton of oil and exploded every two weeks killing everyone around
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in romanian it's how you say "base metal" generally.
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (Al being a creature of modernity.) << Elemental Al was accessible to ancients... at lightining strike sites
BingoBoingo: but the later easier to refine and heavier.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the mediteranean people volcanoes prolly more than meteorites.
BingoBoingo: A light shiny metal, Napoleon commisioned Aluminum flatware.
BingoBoingo: obsidian conparatively common though. Aluminum might as well have been mythiril though
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform still waiting for obsidian terroristknives << DO you have a budget in mind?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the ancients would've laughed at Al. BUt in the 18th and 19th centuries only nobels had aluminium helmets
BingoBoingo: Still, how many obsiadian terroist knives, at what dimension, and in what quantity?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually, they didn't come up with duralumin
decimation: I believe that aluminum is part of the british crown jewels too
mircea_popescu: "it is not rare to see a palpable (and all the more so for its unpredictability) delay between pressing a key and the drawing of a symbol on the screen." << i have never seen this.
decimation: re: obsidian knives << if you want to go this route, just find some local flint and start chipping
mircea_popescu: part of the reason perhaps being that if i had, i'd start bludgeoning the machine into the ground.
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decimation: I distinctly remember seeing word on windows and thinking it was a huge step back from wordperfect on dos
BingoBoingo: decimation> re: obsidian knives << if you want to go this route, just find some local flint and start chipping << Flint =/= obsidian
BingoBoingo: Also premier material for shaping flint, antler
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> more or less no one uses pure Al for anything today. << /me may use for heat...
decimation: yeah I would be pretty scared to operate on someone with a glass blade
mircea_popescu: "Recently, I devoted several sleepless nights to this problem. Why is it that our computers are getting faster and faster yet we are using them more and more to render things generated on some distant server? And it’s still slow!" <<< average bovine is comforted by the second delay.
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BingoBoingo: <decimation> yeah I would be pretty scared to operate on someone with a glass blade << In an MRI tube what else can you use? Interventional radiology is lucrative
assbot: Strategy Letter IV: Bloatware and the 80/20 Myth - Joel on Software
mircea_popescu: decimation that would have been the fucking moment of truth for the cataphract : when someone turned on a giant magnet
mircea_popescu: sort-of equivalent to the moment when archimedes turned on the mirrors.
mircea_popescu: In fact there are lots of great reasons for bloatware. For one, if programmers don't have to worry about how large their code is, they can ship it sooner. And that means you get more features, and features make your life better (when you use them) and don't usually hurt (when you don't).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen : if coders didn't have to worry about whether THEIR PROGRAM EVEN HALTS
mircea_popescu: as joel well points out, we got a mental problem. no comprende como sheeping works.
decimation: it allows everyone to pass the buck up to the assignat printing press
mircea_popescu: "and the loss to the software company that has to give up two months of sales is even worse." << dat logic. so if i have sex for the first time today, rather than next week, i gain a full week of first time sexings.
decimation: writing nearly perfect code is possible, but anyone who tries loses in the market by those who 'get there first' writing crap
decimation: right, the point to realize is that the market is broken
decimation: I remember the original netscape - it was a pile of shit
mircea_popescu: in fact, the history of the internet and the browser narrowly mimicks the history of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: decimation just think, what they were. remember... lycos ?
decimation: the only reason google 'took off' was the fact that their competitors sucked
mircea_popescu: someone actually thought that "yahoo" is a sane string to associate to your busines.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking derrogatory, it's almost like calling bitcoin's media company "cunt, raw"
decimation: as I recall the netscape was pretty much just a ripoff of mosaic
decimation: asciilifeform: it is sad that the pauper's computers 'won' in the long run
assbot: How Many Lies Can You Find In One Direct Mail Piece? - Joel on Software
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ not turd. why? didn't have to run on toy computer in paupers' bedrooms. << What, some people actually operate this way...
mircea_popescu: It says that it's from Sky Dayton (founder of Earthlink) although it is actually from Earthlink's direct marketing department. I can just see the thought going through the copy writer's head. "People won't open it unless it's from someone they know, and everyone knows Sky Dayton!"
mircea_popescu: anyone still know virgin atlantic branson dayton w/e his name was ?
decimation: asciilifeform: it's certain that there was some government meeting where the cl-
http server was regarded as 'obsolete' because it wasn't compatible with frontpage or whatever
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mircea_popescu: decimation well at least he knows how to make a small fortune.
mircea_popescu: see, here's the thing : we had these idiots in romania, too. the sort that could be millionaires as long as the public treasury poured a billion or two in theior pants
decimation: wonder what the nsa would do with ancient lisp machines
mircea_popescu: so the other barbarian couldn't jack off to the marbles.
decimation: chicoms for some reason just want to reproduce shitty bezzletronics
mircea_popescu: incidentally, now that im apparently using it, wtf does chicom even mean ?
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decimation: heh yeah, in the podcast Bil blames the death of commodore on Mr. Tramiel's exit from the company
decimation: according to Mr. Herd - Jack Tramiel ran Commodore with an iron fist. When he left, only derps were around to pretend to fill his shoes
mircea_popescu: " I remember someone saying that if it hadn't been for automatic switches in the telephone network, the entire population of planet earth would have had to be telephone operators to handle the load of telephone usage in 1993 or thereabout. I get the eerie feeling that because modern computer systems are so incredibly braindamaged in their design and in the tools used to program them, the entire population of planet e
decimation: I didn't realize - apparently Commodore made their own silicon chips, and even made their own LCD screens
mircea_popescu: arth will be programming these idiotic boxes pretty soon if managers don't wise up to the fact that the equivalent of automatic switches already exist and have done so for at least 20 years. yet if Y2K doesn't light up most manager's view of the world of programming, there isn't hope for mankind at all."
decimation: according to Mr. Herd it was recently surpassed by the 'ipad' if you consider that to be a computer
assbot: Hacking the Commodore C128 with Bil Herd
decimation: yeah, he admitted it was 9 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag
decimation: in the podcast he said they should have produced the commodore LCD - which would have competed with the TRS-80
decimation: but apparently the fucktarded 'bitcoin ceo' who took over after Mr. Tramiel was speaking with the CEO of tandy who told him that here was "no money in portable computers"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in .net vb << In library school I was forced into this bullshit for a semester, final project I couldn't take it. Went FU here's a mono runtime in a jail and Visual C++ 6.0 that compiles to it because fuku
decimation: later that year the TRS-80 was a massive sales leader for tandy
BingoBoingo: <decimation> later that year the TRS-80 was a massive sales leader for tandy << If you can point me to someone selling 90+ working samples... may be interested
JorgePasada: Bah, getting kicked out of my friends place. Be back in 30. Been a while since I've been in here.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> surely, just once, as a boy? << I did the disposable camera to taser conversion wrapping to get taser voltages.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: didja keep the ignition coil in the output? << Shhhh....
decimation: I haven't wire-wrapped myself, no - only soldered. but I have considered getting into it
decimation: it seems like an ideal method for prototyping logic
BingoBoingo: Ah, so the only reason people bought those
mircea_popescu: lesson for stan : next time girl breaks her ring, don't try to weld it back on her.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> incidentally, i've always wanted a pack of slow-burning steel-tipped 'matches' you could solder with in the field. << SO story with those.
decimation: I've used butane soldering iron, works well
BingoBoingo: Younger dumber highschool me got pretty girl I'd been seeing pretty ring, and being youg poor white trash me I completely ignored subtexts in acquiring 10 gold ring with colored quartz rock. Girl got ideas, ring was rendered part of schoolbus floor
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00073218 = 2.4528 BTC [+]
decimation: they also expose you to the risk of your finger flesh being ripped off
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Her poorer, more white trash ass thought so.
decimation: I found a titanium ring is good for me most of the time, completely anti-reactive to skin and also cheap
BingoBoingo: Everything is fun and games until poorer and more white trash tries to become a precondition for future life
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> holy shit... aluminum brass knuckles ?! << WHere???
mircea_popescu: are these for afficionados, light enough to attach scope to ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrUnQPbpEU persay.
BingoBoingo: Wait, who seriously can't pirate Poor Man's James Bond vol. 1-4?
BingoBoingo: Why not wet sopping rag knuckle dusters, they'll have more mass
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Silver to fall under $15/oz before December 27th"
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BingoBoingo: So if anyone cares, gas prices in Middle APerica less stable than BTC at the moment.
BingoBoingo: Kind of looking forward to more action on that front as the Saudis try to bankrupt US Bezzel "oil" men
assbot: Kubotan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: lol " In April 2010 actor and entertainer Darren Day was found guilty of possessing an offensive weapon, namely a Kubotan-style keyring, by a court in Edinburgh.[4]"
decimation: so, usg & friends might arrest you if you carry a stick
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decimation: asciilifeform: is that what russian cops use to beat hippies?
BingoBoingo: Only outside of a legitimate domicile. Within domicile even a fucking claymore sword is fair game.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Russian batons... have a very dildonic look
BingoBoingo: So... basically a kinder soldering iron alternative...
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many russian policemen used it to touch themselves.
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BingoBoingo has formative memories of hackberry as tree that drops limbs everywhere and fucks shit up
cazalla: home again, not much news around by looks of it anyway so didn't miss much
ben_vulpes: holy hell i blink and 800 lines appear
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23370 @ 0.00073217 = 17.1108 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Troubles Continue For Canandian Bitcoin Miner Dominion Bitcoin Mining Company | Qntra.net
gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: do you read all those papers you link?
RagnarDanneskjol: its fascinating for me. i really enjoy thorough research even if conclusions/methods are somewhat flawed
punkman: "we show how our Accountable Storage protocol can be integrated with Bitcoin, to support automatic compensations proportional to the number of corrupted bits at the server. We also build and evaluate our protocols showing that they perform well in practice."
punkman: have these people been outside the lab?
punkman: oh hey 3 greek dudes in author list
punkman: punkman: have these people been outside the lab? < they use nlocktime, so no
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3981 @ 0.00073612 = 2.9305 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Silver to fall under $15/oz before December 27th"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1049/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 66(Y):34(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.5111 BTC. Current weight: 42,527.
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[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Silver to fall under $15/oz before December 27th"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1049/ Odds: 83(Y):17(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.5111 BTC. Current weight: 42,477.
assbot: Andreas M. Antonopoulos visits Down Under | CoinJar Blog
jurov just came from dentist.. one tooth, 45 minutes and total exhaustion of both me and doctor
jurov: no, i don't know the term... hollowed down to the root and filled
Vexual: my typos anent usuall so dumb
Vexual: did you get novocaine?
assbot: FAQ on the payment protocol
punkman: "You should save the "Gavin is trying to impress evil institutional investors" mud-slinging for when I get around to laying out the argument for increasing the block size, because that would be closer to the truth."
jurov: no anesthetic needed fortunately
assbot: Logged on 20-06-2014 21:56:59; punkman: so I just put together something to test betting strategies on past bitbets and guess what, betting 0.1 on No on all resolved bets would result in a net gain of 9.7 BTC
assbot: An easy way to combine the power of .Net and Java | mikegrim
jurov: let's port bitcoin to java on top of dotnet!
davout: jurov: gotta get these pretty swing windows in dotnet
punkman: more of a heartbeat, should I remove?
bounce: that reads like the guy is a bit confused. then again, he certainly isn't the only one.
bounce subtly points out that you can run other things besides java on jvm too. like ruby, and python, and there's a lisp....
jurov: that was subtle suggestion of pytho->java->dotnet stack?
jurov: yean with random assortment of libraries on every layer
bounce: can we dotnet in javascript yet? with one of those nice accellerated js interpreters? It'll go lots faster that way, I'm sure.
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punkman: but yeah if there's linux on js, you can probably do .net
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assbot: The Effect of Programming Language On Software Quality - Slashdot
bounce: there, science tells you what language to use, the size of team to pick, and the size of commits to commit. get to it, slackers! thank science!
jurov: bounce: gotta pick the best from every language !!!11
bounce: that's more or less what the PHP "designers" think they're doing. so... if you want that, you know where to get it.
bounce: hm. php on jvm? maybe retarget that facebook php compiler thing?
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kakobrekla: Blazedout419 (he is here in the chan) > I am sure will and deadterra have done quite well on this scam...
kakobrekla: while he carries another scam in the signature.
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punkman: "Stop holding my coins hostage, pay out my divs so I may reinvest them. I am loosing potential profit because of your practice. " << lol
kakobrekla: if someone has a working retard talk account, ping geegaw to come by ?
kakobrekla: >That's what sucked me in, I saw a lot of posts about 1-2 month ROI's so I bought my Zens retail from GAW @ 17.95 next day worked out my ROI 217 days, the very next day 1 year ROI (approx), next day retail Zens @ 14.95 and ROI infinity +1. Early adopters were given high, magic, above market payouts to lure suckers like me in, and it worked.
punkman: I thought magic cloud miners would autoscale
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mircea_popescu: " Early adopters were given high, magic, above market payouts to lure suckers like me in, and it worked." << duh.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> how to make a plastic gun that shoots: use casing for substitute barrel <<< pressed shit works just fine, when smeared on actually functioning machines!
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mircea_popescu: This site reaches over 3,428 monthly people, of which 2,111 (62%) yesterday.
bounce: "mobile web" + "online" = "web". dat distinction.
kakobrekla: eh? slashdot your target audience? top comment there: I bought one of these. It took a VERY long time to arrive, and only worked for a few weeks. I contacted them for warranty repair and they simply never responded after that. I am out around $3000.
bounce: so does quantcast count wordpress as "people"?
kakobrekla: you are basically talking to retard talk with green css
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes. it is a news venue. it talks to retards. this, we knew going in.
mircea_popescu: bounce if it counted that qntra'd be well above gawker this month.
punkman: you have to run the quantcast javascript to count
bounce: reimplement in php and submit as a patch to wordpress
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how they do traffic measuring these days. i have no doubt whatsoever that it can be gamed.
punkman: oh they have a fallback tracking pixel too
assbot: F.DERP October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: if anyoen wants to give a final look to the month's statements, please do. i'll be signing them and deeding them later today.
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mircea_popescu: well yeah, if you're going to make a gun-cartridge might as well make it sealed.
menahem: n00b following the rules set forth by good 'ol pete dushenski
menahem: ha, yea. most of it is great, some stuff takes a few re-reads.
menahem: i've met a few bitcoin-assets ppl around the globe already, not knowing until later that they were all in the wot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's wrong with just burying them in a pile ?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, wouldn't a continuous furnace be the best approach ?
nubbins`: ^ that's the email i wrote to the city
mircea_popescu: keep adding 1 cartridge/second, keep taking molten stuff out.
nubbins`: a couple councillors email back "we will notify the appropriate people" etc
nubbins`: then the MAYOR emails me back, CCing the city manager:
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` is this slumlord the new official slur for this circumstance ?
nubbins`: i can picture the old fart hove off on his couch w/ his ipad, smoking a cigar, "y'know what? enough IS enough"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu gotta call a diamond a diamond
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know, the mayor response would be a better paste. we don't care what YOU said :D
nubbins`: anyway, i pasted both, parse em as you will ;p
nubbins`: so i got that reply late last night. today, the city comes, picks up the trash out front, gets a ladder, and REATTACHES THE DECK TO THE HOUSE
mircea_popescu: "the XXXXX Street area is a shitty, needle-littered dump" << srsly ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu not as bad as i make it seem
nubbins`: but you do find needles from time to time
nubbins`: "fuck the sharps container, this one's going in the road"
nubbins`: feed that woman enough beans and she'd make a great espresso machine
mircea_popescu: true story : i once spent in excess of an hour inserting coffee beans one by one into girl butt. just to see what'd happen.
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nubbins`: ^ that little bit of white trim is where the door used to be
nubbins`: anyway, good on the city, i guess; reattaching the deck is way cheaper than dismantling it and hauling it to the dump
kakobrekla: Please arrange to have this removed immediately and billed directly to the
kakobrekla: property owner , no matter what the cost to the owner! Enough is enough! < ask for pgp signed statement, email isnt safe.
nubbins`: doc o'keefe don't give a fuck about no pgp
mircea_popescu: i'm giving even odds the guy doesn't end up paying for it.
nubbins`: i already pay plenty by living next to the guy
nubbins`: anyway, would be interesting to see how many prior invoices have gone unpaid
nubbins`: this is maybe the 5th time in 3 years i've made this happen ;/
mircea_popescu: generally, nubbins wars against people owning half the street go pretty predictable.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2014 21:08:35; asciilifeform: the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept
nubbins`: mircea_popescu no doubt, but it's my duty
kakobrekla: next week will be "o wait, it costs 6k? no we are not paying for THAT. 6k is not "whatever it costs", its 3k more than that."
mircea_popescu: but no, coupla hours with a crew and a truck is what, 350 ?
nubbins`: city workers prolly get 25-35/hr during business hours
mircea_popescu: right. 6 grunts for 2 hours + driver counted as 2 = 160 bux. 80 for the truck, provided you don't actually have a deal and get it for 6k or so a month.
nubbins`: would love to see o'dea's face when he gets the bill
nubbins`: barring ambiguousness, pronouns should always be omitted
nubbins`: one thing the castellanos did right
jurov: nubbins`: just put a deck, too? you said you want it
jurov: so the solution is very easy
jurov: bribe the town crew to fix the yours one
jurov: and watch it billed to him
nubbins`: "yeah, o'dea said he was gonna buy a bunch of pizza and leave it out front, but he didn't...
nubbins`: enough is enough! order a jumbo meat lovers and send the donair sauce to the property owner!
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nubbins`: FWIW the "sweet sauce" has garlic as the main spice
nubbins`: mircea_popescu you don't dry-rub your briskets?!
punkman: I've never had one with sweet sauce
nubbins`: halifax-style donair sauce is the best thing
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nubbins`: i like making a huge batch of donairs once or twice a year
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nubbins`: i still can't believe she wasn't a donair
jurov: well... when i was in vancouver, my relatives there obviously knew better than to introduce us to poutine and donair
nubbins`: ;;google king of donair trailer park boys
jurov: only long after i discovered these "canadian foods"
mircea_popescu: jurov "what stupid poor people would eat if they had no mothers."
nubbins`: fun fact, poutine is a common "first solid food" for babies in northern canada
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin isn't a security, if they say it's a security, they would be the first government in the world to give Bitcoin that sort of value or endorsement." << reading between the lines, "leadership coach" that doesn't understand either bitcoin or his jurisdiction is shitting his pants.
mircea_popescu: punkman: have these people been outside the lab? << no dude, "corrupted bit" count totally is the correct proxy for insurance claims.
mircea_popescu: that's why car claims are based on square cms of ruined paint.
mircea_popescu: it's a shame that most people go to their graves with 99%+ intact bodies.
mircea_popescu: a sad testament to the poor quality of healthcare offered before obamacare became a thing.
mircea_popescu: ok, jurov's root anal / total exhaustion of all parties thing is in bash now. which i think jurov mods... so preemptive SCAM!
gribble: cazalla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 8 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <cazalla> zzz night
mircea_popescu: punkman not only am i not loading google js pilefest sites, but is the dude even in the wot ?
jurov: what's scammy on it?
jurov: regardless it gets approved or not, i'll blame it on kako
mircea_popescu: kako is responsible for like 40% of somalia's milk production.
jurov: that's not milk, but donair
punkman: gonna write article eventually
mircea_popescu: waste of your time, trying to find someone do something useful before WE did it.
assbot: Using bitcoin for trusted timestamping?
jurov: kakobrekla you removed "cunt raw" before my eyes... you did not get it?
jurov: just say "cunt raw ex" aloud
jurov: wow, it has even another meaning?
mircea_popescu: this one is only there for russian speakers, because in english u never crosses the barrier to a, nor w (a sort of u) to v
kakobrekla: jurov i guess i dont find it bash worthy
kakobrekla: one thing to note jurov, when you approve, do them in order from top down
jurov: yea i know and did it
kakobrekla: sometimes i go through the pending list and just delete what i dont see worthy
kakobrekla: and leave the quotes that im not sure what to do with, or how to cut them
assbot: FAQ on the payment protocol
kakobrekla: i see you just flushed everything down the toilet
jurov: no i actually accepted everything that was left
jurov: oh that's what you mean
jurov: and qntra is the sink
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: then by october he was already making preparatory moves.
kakobrekla: <jurov> and qntra is the sink < bidet you mean prolly
jurov: or it's special bidet only for pizdas? and the other one is pulet?
mircea_popescu: well the bidet IS for pizde. and i guess for dudes cursed with a cock so short
jurov feels trilema exhortation on private hygiene upcoming
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mircea_popescu: punkman honestly, i do not believe the empty wankfest of these schmucks "having ideas" and resolving theoretical problems in theoretical ways should in any shape or form be encouraged.
mircea_popescu: this dovetails into stans permabitch about the "mathematizing" and "proofs" issues in general computation theory
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand into the business side of "your ideas are worthless, and what your head produced can't even be called an idea in any sense" i used to rant about back in 2013ish.
mircea_popescu: kids need clear signals to be able to live their lives rather than dream their lives, and encouraging this stupidity is the wrong signal.
starzz_: Hello. I want to join the cult
starzz_: have a stupid article to write for qntra
gribble: Nick 'starzz_', with hostmask 'starzz_!180f6af0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.15.106.240', is not identified.
starzz_: in there. Don't know why it's not showing up here (otc it did)
mircea_popescu: if gribble dun see you it dun see you. -otc -assets or anywhere else. maybe you disconnected.
mircea_popescu: punkman: more of a heartbeat, should I remove? <<< yeah.
mircea_popescu: bounce: there, science tells you what language to use, the size of team to pick, and the size of commits to commit. get to it, slackers! thank science! <<< this science allowed me to win the lottery for fifty eight times in a row by always wearing the same shirt i wore when i won the first time.
mircea_popescu: seriously, you couldn't have dug up boston for a decade if there wasn't government to make it cost 10 trillion.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they're bitching about fossil fuels. here's an idea, libertard lobby : your understanding of bitcoin is going to fix the problem you imagine is "global warming". why hate ?
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mircea_popescu: soo, unrelatedly : the republicans now own the house, majority in the senate, a bunch more governors...
mircea_popescu: obama just went on a two year vacation, at a cost of a bunch of money.
mircea_popescu: myeah. i remember the days a coupla years ago that used to be a part of the conversation.
mircea_popescu: incredible how much a few years change in the third world.
ben_vulpes: that she shakes her head while saying "i approve this message" made me lol.
mircea_popescu: `--- `--- `--- awkward patter bullshit with the headcharge movement to boot
mircea_popescu: it's gotten to the point where trying to be taught something in the us is a worse gambit than just not washing.
qntranet: following the link to contact cazala
qntranet: I know. Who knew? Just click the link and I'm qntra?
mircea_popescu: google : "Barack Obama, Presidential term January 20, 2009 –"
qntranet: I've been reading you for a year. I'm learning how. I've signed onto otc & know how to get in wot
qntranet: I can afford to write an article. I don't have the 30 btc for Mpex (or I'd buy bitbet shares)
qntranet: See. that's what us edumacation does for one lol
jurov: qntranet any suggestion where coinbr should be advertised?
jurov: so that people know about it?
qntranet: it's tough to break into the media.
qntranet: That's what I think my article might do.
jurov: it is mentioned in the mpex faq
kakobrekla: jurov i think ppl dislike the ongoing costs associated with an account on cbr and advertising wont fix that. my humble opinion.
jurov: long past most people's attantion span, tho
qntranet: Remove the scare factor a little bit
qntranet: I know there are other people like me who get it
jurov: i know.. but still .. when there is only ~10 people who actually pay these 2 bitcents
jurov: i don[t believe it would be so much more when it's free
jurov: yes. since november
punkman: jurov, 0.1 year paid up-front might do better
jurov: plus another two per withdrawal
mircea_popescu: same people then derp all about how ipad is great, costs them a little more than 5 bux, delivers a lot less.
jurov: er.. since *last* november
kakobrekla: if 5 bux is change then you just get mpex acc its like 10 bux at the current btc price
jurov: just rephrase it all
qntranet: thanks ya'll. I have a coinbr account to create.
mircea_popescu: today we find kakobrekla's cock is approximately 28 miles long.
mircea_popescu: makes long distance relationships that much easier for him.
jurov: pity he lives it that part of world where you can't get 10 miles without encountering town or road
jurov: planes? 28 miles is enough for orbital launch!
jurov: kako's preparing for another lauch
jurov: suborbital jizz insertion
mircea_popescu: the ultimate face splat experience. you don;t even know whom it's gonna end up on!
CheckDavid: A while ago i saw a notification here about a gold bet placed on bitbet.us, but now i can't find it.
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jurov: when you put gold into the searchox, it won't come up?
mircea_popescu: "where should the searchbox advertise itself" is jurov's q.
CheckDavid: jurov: some gold bets come up, but i don't think its the one that i saw in the notification
CheckDavid: That's what i was thinking mircea_popescu
CheckDavid: Doesn't show up in closed either, but not impotant
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mats_cd03: i wonder what glad tidings gop congress will bring
mircea_popescu: basically, either they start taking obamacare apart or lose their mommentum
bounce: lovely error message: "Failed to connect to server. The reason may be that the encryption methods supported by the server are not enabled in the security preferences." -- but naturally, DO NOT EVER show the poor user the list of supported protocols, because, you know, having the user guess is much better than showing what you do know.
mircea_popescu: granted that dismating it now is probably the worst possible outcome, way worse than never having implemented it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: it's constructed to support a certain ideology. that ideology does not include the user contributing anything.
jurov: as for WoL.. did you ever do any giveaways on trolltalk? such as coinroll raffles, they made wonders
jurov: scrat put 100btc in, got several hundred out
jurov: if someone (mpif nudge wink) gave us some dought, i'm sure it could be repeated
mircea_popescu: so wait. 100 btc raffle resulted in >30k worth of bets from bitcointalk ?
jurov: r dunno from where
jurov: Namworld you around?
jurov: he should know concrete numbers, it was tracked
mircea_popescu: anyway, there were all sorts of offers, matching gains, i dun recall it all.
mircea_popescu: US $133,700 to turn the new album into an hour long musical anime
mircea_popescu: 70k frames at >1 dollar per frame ? i should make a korean drawing company.
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: know where i can find K&R 1st ed warez? ive only read 2nd ed, and i can't find the first through hefty googling.
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jurov: maybe that anime is done similar way
bounce ran into an open tab with the purported cex/ghash sec letter. can't help but wonder what happened next.
kakobrekla: bounce they upped their advertising cannons.
kakobrekla: get as much chumps before they need to dox them
bounce: so no meaningful reply except a stream of dox to be expected then. right.
bounce: kinda curious since they're apparently registered in london.
kakobrekla: so they can be a part of their averaged out ticker
kakobrekla: bitstamp is legal by being retarded evil scammers
bounce: wonder if you could get away with telling the SEC, "we're being regulated by the bitcoin regulatory foundation so talk to them, not us."
cazalla: damn BingoBoingo, you were not kidding about that quantcast.. i had to get up early and chase the rubbish truck down the street as someone forgot to put the bins out last night :\
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chetty: asciilifeform, hahahaha best explanation of that I have heard, I am gonna steal it
chetty: all very true, but not as much fun as the first one asciilifeform
chetty: hmmm and when you put that together with the overton window ...now I got to think some
chetty: unfortunately not that many people can follow the math of it
chetty: I seem to find a lot of people that cant even make change
chetty: haha, yeah it doesn't really mean that much, but it does put me off trying to explain things
chetty: anyway if you think about the overton window only letting you see the middle parts of the sphere it does explain a lot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00070575 = 1.7291 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: jurov: i just pinged the turdolator and didn't get a bounce and don't see it in the archives.
chetty: now that one makes my head hurt :P
Pierre_Rochard: thestringpuller: work is going well, we just moved half the employees to the other side, of I have an office to myself now. Just sandwiches
kakobrekla: toilet and kitchen sink hybrid - no thanks. < toilet and bidet hybrids do well in china
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nubbins`: !s preferred syntax highlighting style
ben_vulpes: because it fails to bring the whole chain down?
nubbins`: something tells me this book ain't getting done by nov 15 ;D
nubbins`: meantime, i may have something special lined up for the cover
nubbins`: it'll make an o'reilly cover look like Dick & Jane
nubbins`: i settled for a meat sub instead
nubbins`: didn't have time for a donair ;/
mircea_popescu: bounce: wonder if you could get away with telling the SEC, "we're being regulated by the bitcoin regulatory foundation so talk to them, not us." << depends on what you mean by get away.
ben_vulpes: i wonder if 0.6.3 shows the same behavior.
ben_vulpes: not that moving forwards to "version number" parity with the rangers is in any way a good idea, just to handle this crud.
nubbins`: fast to order... eating it in a reasonable amount of time is the problem
nubbins`: you need like 30-45 minutes to eat a donair
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cazalla: i'll keep pasting em seeing scoopbot no longer has the scoop
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: chetty: n-dimensional sphere, as n increases << this is actually interesting to work out.
mircea_popescu: the area (ie, 2d volume) of a circle (ie, 2d sphere) is pi r ^ 2. the area of a circle half as big ? pi (r/2) ^ 2. so therefore 3/4 of the sphere's volume is within the tophalf of its radius.
mircea_popescu: the tophalf of a sphere always holds (2^n-1)/2^n of the volume.
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bounce: not sure why this concentrates on "cities of at least 50k households"
mircea_popescu: lol i bet half of africa has better internet than half of ny state.
bounce: if you count facebook-only mobile "internet"
mircea_popescu: really, most of the "poor countries" are basically ohio minus us style cops. bout same facilities and amenties.
bounce: but it's all the more poignant for the excellent backbone infrastructure that really doesn't exist in africa
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to have shitty internet because you can't afford to lay cable.
mircea_popescu: it's another because... uh... whatever the whiteplains excuse is.
bounce: I have no idea what is or isn't available in ohio
nubbins`: huly fu-u-u-u-u-ck it takes a long time to download the blockchain
z33andO_o: that's because it's not really p2p software, bitcoin-core picks 1 node and downloads all from it
z33andO_o: if you pick a slow one then it takes ages
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's another one for the endless list : fix the motherfucking p0p implementation so it actually is p2p
bounce: the US does have a habit of starting some community initiative only to see it lobbied into the ground because it would be "unfair" to overpriced unwilling monopolistic large corporations
mircea_popescu: nubbins` satoshi's origina, likely defensible call was that "hack it this way so it works, fix later when more manpower"
mircea_popescu: obviously usgavin then failed to deliver on this, as on anything else. another broken promise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bitcoin is being introduced today for the first time, plays out exactly as described.
nubbins`: seriously tho, i'm downloading blocks over fiber at 60KB/s
nubbins`: only thing i know how to flush is the toilet
mircea_popescu: block its ip in your firewall. most likely result bitcoind hickups for a minute and moves on.
mircea_popescu: obviously exact result can not be known, because the specification is gavin's mother's cunt.
nubbins`: yeah, see, bitcoind crashes ~1x daily on this vm
nubbins`: i'm assuming it grabs a diff node each time
nubbins`: 60KB/s is probably the best upload speed i'll ever get from some random user
bounce: can you force what node it'll fetch the blockchain from?
bounce: would be worth it to trace a couple yourself and pick a good one, then force-feed it
mircea_popescu: bounce yes, actually, by editing the fallback list and wiping its other methods of acquisition
nubbins`: not like this isn't a fool's errand anyway, if it's gonna clam up at block 250k
mircea_popescu: (said fallback list being another thing that should go away, but iirc this was mentioned)
bounce: something to drop on a todo list in a wiki or something
nubbins`: provide text file w/ trusted nodes as argument or smth
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and zapping the idiotic db corruption <<< there is more to this story, i doubt it's just "corruption". sadly i dun have the smoking gun.
bounce: or, well, start with dropping the things on the ml, it's there for this sort of thing
mircea_popescu: but if there was a candidate for "magic packet" undocumented behaviour of the subverted gavin-bitcoin, this is it.
nubbins`: not sure what i'd get if i hooked up a wire
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: it'll make an o'reilly cover look like Dick & Jane :D
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nubbins`: side note: that's a silkscreened cover
nubbins`: you'd see this occasionally in old letterpress shit, where the publisher ran outta type in the given font
mircea_popescu: i think ima make a list of romanian cursing. the internet is appalling.
bounce: maybe the same reason why "modern" word-produced turds end up with more fonts than words
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cazalla: imagine having to build your website to accomodate such people or get your shit handed to you
bounce: and the block problem is a DB handling problem, wasn't it? making swapping DB thingies a bit of a priority.
cazalla: you got the scoop this time scoopbot
punkman: was playing with vanitygen, found a 1tits address that also says "how hot" in private key
ben_vulpes: there's also a discussion to have about how to distribute
ben_vulpes: when merge, how number, method of dist etc
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about distributing a sourceball with patches merged.
BingoBoingo: <bounce> the US does have a habit of starting some community initiative only to see it lobbied into the ground because it would be "unfair" to overpriced unwilling monopolistic large corporations << No, it happens. You just need a town that can get away with it. Muni internet exists here and had no serious opposition.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: u.s. towns in this case are either prey or small change. tertium non datur. << Small, affluent compared to the surrounding error.
PeterL: was there a consensus as to if I should add prestonbryne.com to scoopbot's list?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: what would be truly astonishing would be - municipal gsm. but pig's chance of flight << Aha!
BingoBoingo: <PeterL> was there a consensus as to if I should add prestonbryne.com to scoopbot's list? << Prolly not, he stops by here very rarely.
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satdav: I am a member of Firefox support team
satdav: mircea_popescu: how do I register on gribble
satdav: Yes very hard at times
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
satdav: mircea_popescu: is their windows setup for this
BingoBoingo: <satdav> mircea_popescu: is their windows setup for this << If you must use GPG on windows at least compile it yourself. The extant gpg4win binaries have a dubious reputation
jurov: ben_vulpes" i told you several times: s'il vous plait, do register with the mailman. it will *not* register you automatically1
jurov: i am registered and did get your email fine
nubbins` idly considers opening a sports shop named "s'il vous play"
nubbins`: See vous play. Play, vous, play.
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jurov: maybe you did not finish
jurov: in the second email there is a link,
jurov: on that link there is a button
jurov: and only after clicking it you're in
jurov: you wanted rigor, gotta have rigor
mod6: thanks for getting the address setup for the foundation jurov & for signing on to be the treasurer for the Foundation
jurov: oh and please kindly send me or to deedbot your signed contracts
satdav: You guys should register as a freenode group also
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to get them servers for a coupla years now.
assbot: Bundle 1MXeLHi5 | #bitcoin-assets deed registry
satdav: Lol mircea_popescu its hard for servers for irc ddos
jurov: no, the treasurer's contract so that there are no ugly 404s from the bottom links
jurov: but wait, i'll update id with deed info
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's just, "jurov has self-appointed himself"
mod6: Has the document been updated with the address et. al?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, in a decade or two once gpg ios the only basis of commerce, identity and general life, that's going to be the #1 scam : here's this document. it's signed. just by me.
mod6: we'll get it done asap
assbot: Deed 9ULZPc7y | #bitcoin-assets deed registry
jurov: ooh I now get what was the REFERENCES for ... not for itself, but for the charter
jurov: if nobody else does, will fix it tmrw
mod6: is there a way for someone to revoke their signed deed?
mod6: we need the three of us to sign that contract with the REFERENCES section in there
mod6: anyone whom already submitted might need to re-submit, not sure if there is a way to pull previously submitted deeds.