assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 84 @ 0.0052 = 0.4368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27368 @ 0.00087813 = 24.0327 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00210761 = 0.2866 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1233 @ 0.00008163 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.00320008 = 0.192 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 86 @ 0.00512069 = 0.4404 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looks like we might have to call it 200 satoshis
kakobrekla: you gave me 150 now you have 150.47241
kakobrekla: dpaste is not permanent however so perhaps this needs to go someplace else
mircea_popescu: anyway, f.mpif may performance, 4.42419221, a little over 1%. 0.5ish of it went to cover for last month's misrepresentation of atc, leaving a little 1% clear.
kakobrekla: how about you include it in mpif statement?
bloctoc: does the 1% go to NAV calculation immediately?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That car anology explains sucinctly why I stay with automatic transmissions. I respect the limits of my ability to control a motor vehicle and anything that reliably saves me cogitive overhead is welcome.
BingoBoingo also has never had a car without automatic headlights...
kakobrekla: eh? i dont even think about gears when driving
BingoBoingo: gears become a hassel when you share the road with American drivers
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: My concern is more the rural roads where I'll be cruising and then an old person in a buick or fucking red neck in a tractor interupts me.
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo once you get a hang of it its not more complicated than breaking
kakobrekla: do you have the breaks on auto as well?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Yeah, but when you are barreling down an open rural highway and half to slow to 20km/h because fucking tractors you need to save mental energy for cursing and obscene gestures
BingoBoingo: clutch wastes a foot, shifter wastes a hand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00087693 = 31.9203 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00087693 = 4.1216 BTC [-]
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010433 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010592 BTC [+]
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152857.38 in 5 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.43
benkay: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
benkay: if you're not in control of the gearbox, you're not driving the machine
benkay: in the same way that if you're relying on an Object Relational Model to talk to your database, you're not actually writing data to your data store.
benkay: that layer of abstraction in between you and the machine is going to either give you a headache down the road or you're not going to get the performance the machine is capable of
benkay: with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL.
benkay: and with an automatic transmission you're limited to "GIVE ME ALL THE FAST RIGHT NOW...please."
benkay: that demonic AI in between you and the gearbox will prevent you doing anything to burn fuel at a rate sufficient to eke performance out of the thing.
kakobrekla: <benkay> with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL. <- depends, but in most cases generally not specific to anyone, perf is not an issue
benkay: for 90% of derpy web apps, an orm is entirely adequate.
benkay: a significant chunk of the remaining apps are going to get popular and have load requirements that rendering the abstraction layer insufferable.
benkay: well, especially for mobile apps - in my experience most of the data is local to the phone
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well automatic transmission is less gearbox and more hydaulic slush box
benkay: i'm familiar, BingoBoingo
benkay: there are still gears, however.
benkay: you're talking about the clutch.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: BITEASY.com | Fast Blockchain Explorer | TESTNET | REST API | WEBSOCKETS API |
benkay: so who are the blockchain-as-a-service providers?
benkay: why is there no -assets bc-a-a-s provider?
benkay: DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.06875002 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.0655 = 0.1965 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00087599 = 15.4612 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.05480166 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2}
TomServo: After having driven automatic transmissions all my life and buying an older land cruiser, I have to say driving a manual really is a pleasure.
TomServo: I'm annoyed having missed out on it this long.
benkay: it's a joy to pick a point on the performance curve.
assbot: The Food Politics of Pokmon - Modern Farmer
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (120653 shares, 26.21 BTC)
assbot: Why are Sony and Samsung keeping 4K content to themselves? - CNET
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0008785 = 1.4935 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Nah, the midwest and south aren't too different this time of year other than the particulars that make the heat and humidity suck
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0008785 = 11.5084 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00087866 = 21.0878 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.21318728 = 9.1671 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00210022 = 0.4179 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2488 @ 0.00087561 = 2.1785 BTC [-]
benkay: on the menu this week: charred corn crepes and long-marinated pastor
decimation: mircea_popescu: "the pitch of despair of the Franks and the Goths and whatever other barbarians by far and quite widely exceeded the bitterness of actual Roman Romans " So you are saying that Argentina is roughly upper Germania ca. 700? Sounds legit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00087561 = 18.2565 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16466 @ 0.00087559 = 14.4175 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16385 @ 0.0008762 = 14.3565 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so essentially it's like a chick with a bunch of piercings
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Looks like the BitBet propositions cue is filling up after hanbot's statement
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 640.0, vol: 22030.74759333 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 628.746, vol: 17125.44899 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 640.6, vol: 31036.24563128 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 642.0, vol: 40.68878697 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 645.123798, vol: 8361.91820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 632.0, vol: 30.69610392 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 647.268873, vol: 128.12878104 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20999 BTC [-]
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.05686104 BTC; -0.11497239 BTC (-0.0688%) since last check 13h 31m 22s ago.
BingoBoingo: I think they started with 150 BTC, but I'm not exactly sure.
BingoBoingo: I have a feeling mike_c already curses the existence of f.mpif
assbot: A New Investment Fund - Btc Alpha
assbot: Blackhawks Twitter Account Tells Mexican President To Fuck His Mother
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19075 @ 0.00087578 = 16.7055 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.209999 BTC [+]
benkay: <Mats_cd03> clojure is a vulnerable mess // specifics?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22408 @ 0.0008748 = 19.6025 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00087985 = 20.7645 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: The instrumentation of humanity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: can't figure out a way to get the channel name + freenode in there without making it look like something you bought at a convention
nubbins`: but it has a certain mystique as-is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00087438 = 42.1451 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.21 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: Sola Constant Voltage Transformer Harmonic Neutralized Ferroresonant Conditioner | eBay
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
kakobrekla: audiophiles will say such transformers are ewww
assbot: imgur: the simple 404 page
nubbins`: can add PGP fingerprint to the back for an extra $5 if people want
kakobrekla: asciilifeform apparently they worry about capacitance
assbot: Core Audio Technology: Audiophile Power Conditioners + Kenai - YouTube
kakobrekla: not saying this is legit, more saying you shouldnt listen to audiophiles whent it comes down to elect
nubbins`: pseudoscience abounds at the edge of science and consumerism
kakobrekla: plot twist, ascii is the gasenwagon driver.
kakobrekla: how long does it take for various psu to die
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 567 @ 0.00211298 = 1.1981 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: like half of them didnt live up to atx spec
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 62 @ 0.0235 = 1.457 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20148987 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20104256 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20104213 BTC [-]
assbot: Efficiency and Hold-Up Time | bit-tech.net
kakobrekla: >Recorded Hold-up time. ATX spec recommendation: 17ms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00088113 = 1.586 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.20134277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00088113 = 9.0756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00087835 = 10.8915 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: <mircea_popescu> [00:33:27] jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. << so i should value fmpif position at current offering sell price?
jurov: benkay: have you tried sqlalchemy? as soon as one needs to create query programmatically, it's much better than gluing together sql strings
benkay: sqlalchemy's just about makes it doable
benkay: saved me a lot of work recently with simple stuff that works-as-expected like lazily moving the cursor through huge tables integrated with list comprehension in python
benkay: sqlalchemy's like an orm-factory dsl
benkay: i guess i've just had really shitty experiences in picking up a lot of orm/database tangles
benkay: random_cat_: get together again on Tuesday? i'll stick around this time, i promise
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.02360001 = 0.2832 BTC [+]
jurov: asciilifeform, you say there are no truly online ups on the market (where batteries are always connected to an inverter)?
jurov: nubbins`: does it have bitcoin-assets mention anywhere? but that's prolly up to me to explain heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00087886 = 11.1176 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 625.0, Best ask: 627.4, Bid-ask spread: 2.40000, Last trade: 627.79, 24 hour volume: 22979.84884463, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 645.011183151
gribble: Current Blocks: 303781 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 634 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 14 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11339302655.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.45071
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.02999997 = 0.45 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13603 @ 0.00088115 = 11.9863 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10124 @ 0.00087829 = 8.8918 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00087829 = 14.3161 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.0008786 = 16.9131 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: "Maybe Kumala could ask for usagi's help, I heard he's quite good with online wallets."
assbot: WARNING: Crypto::stocks currently not allowing withdrawals
jurov: gonna ask surda how he's going to write off the loss according to austrian accounting standards, if this gets full gox
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00087711 = 17.5422 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMS > Proof-Of-Chain > @AGX.io
fluffypony: "1. Run clam-qt.exe once to auto-magically create the AppData/Clam folder.
fluffypony: 2. Copy the BTC, LTC or DOGE wallet.dat file into the AppData/Clam folder.
fluffypony: 3. Run clam-qt.exe with the --salvage wallet argument.
fluffypony: OPTIONAL: Enjoy your share of free CLAMS"
fluffypony: so basically, hand your privkeys over, and we promise we'll give you CLAMS
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 380 @ 0.0761436 = 28.9346 BTC [-] {24}
fluffypony: nubbins`: t-shirts look good, why not put "#bitcoin-assets // freenode" on the back?
xmj: make it american apparel, they have good shirts
fluffypony: has anyone played around with hamsterdb as an embedded keyvalue store?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3632 @ 0.00087656 = 3.1837 BTC [-]
ET__: thanks for voicing me
Naphex: regarding truecrypt shutdown, most of the posts regarding it have the same comments, in slightly different writeing spanned across most top posts :o
mircea_popescu: pretty soon it'll be like soviet government official soap.
Naphex: looks like the same systems the use for elections
mircea_popescu: which is exactly why it's so multistupid : not only it fails for its intended purpose,
mircea_popescu: but it allows cheap diagnosis of the means available for a critical process.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 544 @ 0.00048879 = 0.2659 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00087671 = 8.3287 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2289618 = 0.4579 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation well, the DC part of argentina's "washington dc" is roughly the size of france. it's a huge country. as such, it's upper germania, illyricum, syria, v
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: so essentially it's like a chick with a bunch of piercings << dude that\s tje best description of clojure i ever heard, and you don't even code.
mircea_popescu: the curse of neckbeards, to be so fucking incapable of expression that it's upon the innocent bystanders to describe their situation, hopes and aspirations, spiritual being.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I think they started with 150 BTC, but I'm not exactly sure. << started with 50 then got another 113.change
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 304 @ 0.00214648 = 0.6525 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.22899966 = 1.374 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.229 = 1.374 BTC [+]
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
gribble: Error: No closing quotation
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: plot twist, ascii is the gasenwagon driver. << wait i thought ascii was mpoe-pr
mircea_popescu: jurov:<mircea_popescu> [00:33:27] jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so. << so i should value fmpif position at current offering sell price? << i've used the 30day average. seems reasonable valuation for a held security, but it's not mandatory, you can value whichever way you think reasonable.
mircea_popescu: this being the advantage of having multiple minds involved, for the public, and this is what a liberal profession is : you get to make calls.
jurov: yes, 30d is reasonable. only had some idea, that maybe we need somthing more stable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.02992857 = 1.0475 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: since mpif holding itself...
mircea_popescu: well you can use the nav too, just, obviously three weeks in the 3 week old nav is kinda off.
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 167.00174924 BTC; -0.05511180 BTC (-0.0330%) since last check 6h 7m 35s ago.
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (120653 shares, 26.21 BTC)
jurov: 0.00021724 is it then
mircea_popescu: gonna ask surda how he's going to write off the loss according to austrian accounting standards, if this gets full gox <<< keep me posted lol
mircea_popescu: "I almost listed something on Cryptostocks, but think I will wait and reassess before I do. What we need as a community is to not accept these low standards of service. "
mircea_popescu: translation : "everyone else should put some work into making sure i don';t need to put any work or thought into doing anything i feel like doingt"
mircea_popescu: you can spot a us citizen a mile away by the way their brain stinks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17176 @ 0.00087777 = 15.0766 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: speaking of "community", I had a charming conversation with my wife yesterday during the 4000 BTC dump
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 633.84, Best ask: 634.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 634.81, 24 hour volume: 23570.14428586, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 644.972670427
fluffypony: she: "why doesn't someone just make a post and say that nobody must sell Bitcoin under $700, and then it will go up over $700?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00087841 = 10.7166 BTC [+]
assbot: F.MPIF May 2014 marketmaker statement - serialized delusions
fluffypony: I love how the title ends with "serialized delusions"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00087671 = 7.7589 BTC [-]
jurov: i can always switch it to "The First And Only Exclusive Coolness" shit
nubbins`: jurov, fluffypony: could have optional "#bitcoin-assets / freenode" etc on the back. i'll skip it for mine :D
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why exactly, as mike_c aptly pointed out size and especiallyu outsize is the worst enemy of good financials,
mircea_popescu: but somehow the kids that dream themselves ceos really like BIGGEST
fluffypony: ok nubbins` better idea - how about on the back you put "First. Biggest. Only. Best. Exclusive."
mircea_popescu: or for that mannter Firnly. Biggsive. Onest. Best. Exclusest.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: best description of a vulnerable mess with cool features you ever heard, too. this is because i both used to be into chicks with bunches of piercings, and also write code
nubbins`: ;;sell 1 "OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25 USD "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back.
http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx"
assbot: imgur: the simple 404 page
fluffypony: I'll take 6 - 4 for me, 2 for the wife. how do I order?
nubbins`: this time last year, i was selling friedcat shirts for ~0.14 btc
nubbins`: 6! let me get you a shipping discount
nubbins`: fluffypony: ^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG
fluffypony: 7cfc61ea75971566fda5a86626581b3dfd47d10aeb87bfff043b22c385b54d6c
xmj: does anyone in the SEPA zone want to accept fiat and ship me a shirt to estonia?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety also, do you want to ship some shirts to people ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00010992 = 0.1649 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00087591 = 23.7372 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: 'Yield to the moose,' wildlife expert urges - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24766 @ 0.00087484 = 21.6663 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.00087436 = 7.9427 BTC [-]
nubbins`: even the strength of a man is no match for the mighty moose!
nubbins`: so i found a copy of the first canadian pressing of bob dylan's first album
nubbins`: and the stickers are on the wrong sides of the record :0
danielpbarron: <+nubbins`> jurov, fluffypony: could have optional "#bitcoin-assets / freenode" etc on the back. i'll skip it for mine :D << i'd like one too if it has #bitcoin-assets on it somewhere
nubbins`: compare matrix stamp XSM-55621 (side 1) vs label text XSM-55622 (side 2)
nubbins`: danielpbarron: no sweat, i'm doing the same for fluffypony
nubbins`: ^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG
danielpbarron: gonna have to get back to you on payment; didn't realize it was that ready to go
nubbins`: heh. well i'm not printing them today or anything
nubbins`: i'll probably do up the screens in the next day or so, and keep 'em around for a week or two
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00087436 = 0.9181 BTC [-]
assbot: Clojure Web Security | LispCast
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0838899 = 0.4194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00087521 = 21.1801 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10589 @ 0.00087747 = 9.2915 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10973 @ 0.00087412 = 9.5917 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Lewis Katz, media and sports mogul, dead in Massachusetts 'fireball' plane crash - World - CBC News
artifexd: nubbins`: Address and amount for 2 t-shirts please. No #bitcoin-assets on the back. 1 XL. 1 S.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00239643 = 0.1438 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15942 @ 0.00087366 = 13.9279 BTC [-]
nubbins`: ^ to 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG
artifexd: I rounded up to 0.07142858. Will PM you the physical address.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00087562 = 6.9174 BTC [+]
assbot: A Lunch Date with Ben Bernanke for $70,500 | Bornrich
pankkake: can I give him bills I printed myself?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00087782 = 10.1388 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00087792 = 9.7449 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10713 @ 0.00087675 = 9.3926 BTC [-]
nubbins`: imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour
fluffypony: when you can just come here and spend time with me for free
nubbins`: for those who like the deluxe, you can spend time with me for 1btc/hour
nubbins`: limited time only, one per customer per day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00087845 = 13.0011 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.081 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0280001 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15610 @ 0.00087507 = 13.6598 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4097 @ 0.00087906 = 3.6015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07700011 = 0.154 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00194697 = 0.3232 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: If you just received 800 Bitcoin out of the blue, it was from me : Bitcoin
pankkake: "Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago
fluffypony: "Mystery solved: this is a MtGox address. You sent 300 to it one year ago
fluffypony: ae1332a4-f3c0-4805-89d4-396387e7a96e,8c71169c-c0b2-46a8-97c8-8940cf2bb89a,"2013-04-16 18:37:04",deposit,300
fluffypony: So. I guess my goxcoins just became 800/202000 = 0.4% more worth. Thanks buddy."
pankkake: that happened to me with another fail-exchange, an european one I forgot the name of
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15903 @ 0.00087933 = 13.984 BTC [+]
nubbins`: 2010s, the decade of the paste-fail
pankkake: that's what made me change clients
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 82 @ 0.07552442 = 6.193 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.229 = 0.687 BTC [+]
assbot: UPS Backup | Power Supply | Emergency Power Systems CyberPower Systems, Inc.
jurov: online units for servers are just few hundred euros
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07431927 = 1.1891 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: i'm curious where did you get the 200ms figure from
jurov: my flat seems to be wired directly to elevator, psu did survive the surges, but lcd flickered
jurov: even cheapo ups solved that completely
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.229 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.24265837 = 3.8825 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24259337 = 1.213 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.245691 = 2.9483 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2469 = 1.2345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> imagine paying seventy thousand dollars to sit with a man for an hour << i can see that. what i can';t see is... bernanke ? srsly ?
jurov: what was the assassination market bounty? isn't cheaper to kill him?
assbot: This is me being completely spaced out pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: i haven't tried again since new report, still catching up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00087679 = 3.2003 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, not sure if Ellie Kesselman or ELIZA Kesselman
assbot: Hunter S. Thompson On Finding Meaning - Business Insider
nubbins`: maybe the most lucid article BI has published thus far
mike_c: a straight republishing of someone else's work. that's one way to improve their site.
mike_c: of course, BI managed to make it worse by adding their own emphasis to things.
mike_c: like hunter s. thompson needs fucking BI to improve his writing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00087324 = 12.138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00087317 = 14.4946 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: "this letter could use some editorial emphasis"
jurov: daybyter it's only for 30mins
jurov: Sabastan, nope. stop going in and out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.05805537 = 0.5225 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00087553 = 12.2136 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00087242 = 22.0722 BTC [-] {2}
Naphex: so tired of coding lately, damn you burnout syndrome!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.0008716 = 11.7666 BTC [-] {3}
jurov shots a knowing glance to Naphex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9292 @ 0.00087157 = 8.0986 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.21313505 = 1.2788 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00087553 = 5.297 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625548 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.21625758 = 0.4325 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625758 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2162576 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 83 @ 0.00374214 = 0.3106 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+]
mike_c: ;;calc (0.0055 - 0.00374) / 0.0055
mike_c: ;;calc (0.0075 - 0.00374) / 0.0075
mike_c: 32% loss for ipo investors, 50% for 2po.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+]
pankkake: had to remember I ignore havelock trades
pankkake: it looked like you were talking about MPOE
pankkake: that's why ignores are not practical on IRC :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.004 = 0.16 BTC [+]
mike_c: heh. how can you ignore havelol? it's more fun than the forums.
gribble: the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <the20year> Corn oil sells locally for $3.25/gal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.21625791 BTC [+]
pankkake: because it's clear it was never a btc investment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 158 @ 0.001352 = 0.2136 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00320000 / 0.00369319 / 0.00450000 (227 shares, 0.83835347 BTC), 7D: 0.00280000 / 0.00412473 / 0.00546990 (1556 shares, 6.41807687 BTC), 30D: 0.00280000 / 0.005765 / 0.00710000 (7225 shares, 41.65208891 BTC)
moiety: very quiet but i have been back and forth this past couple days fluffypony got my keys yesterday so been taking cars of things through
moiety: ;;later tell mircea_popescu tshirts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20600007 = 1.236 BTC [-] {3}
moiety: fluffypony: lol yup. i'm a bit scared. it's a lot bigger than i remember it.
mike_c: pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227
gribble: Error: No orders found matching these criteria.
gribble: #20670 Mon Jun 2 06:54:03 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 25 USD (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back.
http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) danielpbarron: if payment is expected in BTC, it might make more sense to put the "otherthing" quantity in as "25/{bitstampask}"
nubbins`: ;;sell 1 widget @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "testing"
gribble: #20671 Mon Jun 2 11:56:00 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 widget @ 0.03981 BTC (testing)
gribble: Error: No orders found to remove. Try the 'view' command to view your open orders.
nubbins`: ;;sell 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back.
http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx"
assbot: imgur: the simple 404 page
gribble: Error: '#bitcoin-assets' is not a valid price input.
nubbins`: ;;sell 1.0 "OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt" @ 25/{bitstampask} BTC "Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back.
http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx"
☟︎ assbot: imgur: the simple 404 page
gribble: #20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.03981 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back.
http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx) assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19831909 BTC to 9`141 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.02438999 = 0.9756 BTC [+]
jurov: no issue with that :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07997213 = 0.1599 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so pascale had this dream last night where she decided that she'd like to get a large dick sewn onto our female cat
nubbins`: had a consultation with the vet, chose a nice model
nubbins`: then later telephoned the vet to discuss the particulars
nubbins`: vet says "je préfère parler en français au téléphone"
nubbins`: p responds "ah, d'accord" and continues discussion
assbot: I knew I couldn't build a cat - Everything2.com
nubbins`: "Today Apple makes an OS announcement --- I say we flood social media & news with questions about why they are anti-tech & anti Bitcoin"
nubbins`: consider that as far as feature implementation goes, apple is relatively conservative
nubbins`: they'll allow bitcoin apps if/when the point is reached where idiots can use it without saying "???"
fluffypony: nubbins`: yeah, I think they may also want to avoid the issue they've had with kids spending thousands on in-app purchases
fluffypony: can you imagine - someone will be like "someone broke into my phone with my pin code and stole my bitcoin, I'm going to sue apple"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.23232937 = 1.1616 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: well, they sorta fixed that around the time the smurfs game came out
nubbins`: "mom, can i download?" "ok" (mom enters password) HEY KIDS BUY SOME SMURF BERRIES (no password required because mom just authed)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.02350054 = 0.517 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: but "apple isn't ready for bitcoin" isn't how apple sees it
nubbins`: they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple"
fluffypony: I'm sure that at some point in the future they'll let you fund your iTunes account with Bitcoin
fluffypony: and PayPal will let you fund your PayPal account with Bitcoin
fluffypony: but atm I'm not convinced either party particularly cares about all the ranting on /r/bitcoin
nubbins`: "hey guise i'm the first hand-blown glass satanist dildo shop in the WORLD to accept bitcoin!"
kakobrekla: possibly, i uninstalled half of the server by mistake.
fluffypony: also if I see another post that is by an American about how Africa is ready for Bitcoin I'm going to stab them in the face
nubbins`: they say that something like 90% of africans own an iphone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00087671 = 6.1808 BTC [+]
fluffypony: yes, and the other 10% own an Android device
nubbins`: yeah, it's not just voice + sms
fluffypony: plus everyone is so familiar with mobile apps that it just makes sense
nubbins`: here's a man in accra, paying cab fare with btc
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: he's using his phone's voice recognition capabilities to make the transaction
assbot: Inside the Shadowy World of High-Speed Tennis Betting | FiveThirtyEight
fluffypony: nubbins`: ah yes, "siri, pay the cab driver 0.005 BTC"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00087753 = 9.7406 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: "certainly, daniel! shall i use the bitstamp BTC/GHS rate?"
jurov is waiting for the eventual <fluffypony> HAR HAR
fluffypony: yay WWDC time, I'm hoping for a Macbook Pro Retina that is the size of a Macbook Air and has 20 hour battery life
jurov: and power density of TNT
pankkake: exploding macbooks, now that's something I'd like
jurov: to bitcoin fundnation
pankkake: or as a way to reduce the hipster population
assbot: Clojure Web Security | LispCast
benkay: other major points are "don't allow users to see each others data!"
benkay: which i guess some people don't think about?
Mats_cd03: the frameworks don't look ready for production
benkay: dunno about frameworks man
pankkake: it doesn't seem especially related to clojure
benkay: big old .45 that always wants to point at your foot
benkay: jvm issues are unless i miss my read (which is possible and do correct me plz) along the lines of 'don't let people have access to your box and don't run java as a consumer'
xmj: speaking about frameworks
xmj: anyone here ever worked with haskell webframeworks?
kakobrekla: i hate frameworks so much i made my own.
pankkake: lol, I always have a bad feeling of "own frameworks"
pankkake: many companies say that, when the reality is that their code is YOLO style
pankkake: I haven't tried haskell at all but it's definitively on my list of things to try out - perhaps the only one actually
benkay: is it a satoshi? is it a btc? WHO KNOWS
pankkake: many frameworks are more of a hassle to use than nothing, for sure
xmj: right after learning C.
mike_c: kakobrekla: what is bitbet written in?
Naphex: ZF for php was more then decent
kakobrekla: anyway the fw that i made was first tested on smpake.com service and was made with btc in mind
mike_c: well, it was good enough for mtgox i guess.
Naphex: mike_c: i doubt ZF had anything to do with mtgox vulns
Naphex: but that custom php wallet software, jesus :]
kakobrekla: but right now im trying to implement some panacea models in newlisp
mike_c: Naphex: mtgox would have managed to suck in any language. i just feel bad for good programmers who somehow have ended up using php. probably the same as asciilifeform feels for all of us that don't use lisp.
Naphex: c'mon now lisp aint that cool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00087967 = 11.1718 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: Naphex> c'mon now lisp aint that cool < php dev said to python dev!?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0236 = 0.2124 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: i'm starting to think it might be that cool. it's on my list to learn when i have a spare minute.. so who knows when.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0237 = 0.1422 BTC [+]
Naphex: my huge problem with lisp its readability
benkay: i wrote a function last night that runs a job, every now and again
benkay: the signature looks like (process-deposits every-ten-minutes)
jurov: and the body is (if (leap year) give bonus)
mike_c: i used to agree about the readability, but i have recently seen some elegant looking lisp programs. and i used to think python was unreadable. so who knows.
Naphex: i don't doubt they exist
Naphex: but picturing a 8-man dev team working on a project in lisp
Naphex: for lets say 3 years, enough that every programmer there is bored shitless
mike_c: i have heard you say that (and filed it away for my future research)
assbot: SLIME: The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs
Apocalyptic: since we're discussing functionnal languages what are you thoughts on Caml asciilifeform ?
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 178842.38 Est. Next Diff: 482603.27 in 1781 blocks (#34272) Est. % Change: 169.85
mike_c: i will certainly give it a try.
assbot: Loper OS » Parentheses-Phobia Illustrated.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00087644 = 9.5532 BTC [-] {2}
Naphex: asciilifeform: its deffinetly better:D
mike_c: back to 3.4 th/s. must be pool-hoppers on atc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.02438999 = 2.439 BTC [-]
Naphex: anyway all languages are just tools, use what fits best with you/your team, your hardware etc
Naphex: but just for lulz, i once saw a embeddec computer for public transportation, written in php :)
Mats_cd03: must be nice to have that contract
Naphex: if you're wondering how is that possbile, it ran a browser in full screen on the front-end
Naphex: and had some php scripts running as daemons over sockets to emulate IPC and threads
Naphex: and using fopen('/dev/sttys*') to read serials and sh unix scripts with stty to setup serial ports
benkay: asciilifeform: haskell?
assbot: Loper OS » Of Lisp Macros and Washing Machines
assbot: Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits.
diametric: asciilifeform: I've been meaning to ask you on your opinion of Go
diametric: the people backing it are what have me intrigued
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00087976 = 5.0146 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: asciilifeform: it's also the brain child of Ken Thompson and Rob Pike
mod6: asciilifeform uses only opcodez
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00087982 = 11.5256 BTC [+]
assbot: Loper OS » Fourth Law of Sane Personal Computing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00087972 = 15.3511 BTC [-]
benkay: "but you can't possibly fix five decades of institutional lock-in!"
benkay: capital requirements got in the way.
assbot: Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive
jurov: westinghouse had the presence of mind to compete on price, too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10149192 BTC [+]
jurov: again, what if we had gorillas.cl instead of gorillas.bas ?
jurov: that did not happen because lispers had perverse incentives
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.03000838 = 3.0008 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10947 @ 0.00087992 = 9.6325 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: and todays' kids learn computing on rpi and python, because whole setup is beneath lispers
jurov: why can't you just change rpi into lisp machine instead of all that complaining?
kakobrekla: kinda same story with thinking machines, darpa funding there.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.03072497 = 3.0725 BTC [+] {7}
benkay: jurov: my plan is to give 'em emacs on a barebones bsd machine with an irc connection to chat with me
jurov: that's the attitude i'm taking about
jurov: give kids the toys and they will make it into silicone later
jurov: not the other way round
assbot: Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it.
jurov: i'm only withessing te failure of your approach so far
jurov: kids first learn Basic, Pascal, and C
jurov: then naturally live with it whole life
jurov: because no one is doing affordable and attractive lisp machines
jurov: how is it different?
jurov: you did not say anything to my price argument
jurov: that ac power generation could be done cheaper
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jurov: lisp machines to date, were not done so.
jurov: because you "oh noes trabant" attitude
jurov: we have things like kickstarter now, no need to go through incumbents
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9031 @ 0.00088055 = 7.9522 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: those people invest in solar freaking roadways not lisp
mircea_popescu: mike_c: like hunter s. thompson needs fucking BI to improve his writing. << where would hts be w/o bi!!1
jurov: yes it is inevitable if people who know better won't do anything for kids because they want 100% architectural purity without compromises
mike_c: srsly. he'd be unreadable without their editing
diametric: asciilifeform: surprisingly the last 6 kickstarters i've done have all delivered
mircea_popescu: i think he might have said nigger or something unsavoury like that at some point
jurov: what prevented OLPC to ship with lisp? "o noes trabant"
mircea_popescu: pankkake: is it down in USD terms? << for "2nd ipo" definitely. seems just about even for original ipo tho
jurov: so you admit microsoft can do it, yet you cannot
mircea_popescu: mike_c: pankkake: ipo USD/share: $0.33, 2po: $0.345, current: $0.227 << o wow srsly ? for some reason i had it in my head they started at a 25cents
mike_c: those were actually off by a factor of 10, but they all were so it doesn't really matter.
mike_c: ipo = 0.0055 BTC * 600 = $3.30
mike_c: now, 0.0036 * 630 = $2.27 per share
assbot: One Laptop per Child - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: they see it as "bitcoin isn't ready for apple" << they're right, too. i don't have a mpoe-pr large enough to swat all the fucktarded us consumers thinking they'r eentitled to shit because their govt paid me taxes or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00088055 = 12.5038 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: "hey guise i'm the first hand-blown glass satanist dildo shop in the WORLD to accept bitcoin!" << when's the ipo!
mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or what
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: ever they’re called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, they’ve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to obstruct vision, living arrangements all thought through and everything.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a str
jurov: seems i'm arguing completely different point than ascii :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00088066 = 13.2539 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: asciilifeform: that sounds strikingly similar to something our mutual friend once said, in his attempt to correctly implement something resulted in that something never accomplishing anything.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: anyway the fw that i made was first tested on smpake.com service and was made with btc in mind << "built from the ground up with security in mind"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31903 @ 0.00087925 = 28.0507 BTC [-] {3}
diametric: you can have all the architecturally pure things in the world, but they don't amount to shit if they don't actually manage to accomplish work.
jurov: i have quite a few friends that got into programming in their teens and have done impressive demos
jurov: only to give up in disgust few years later
gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <nubbins`> "certainly, daniel! shall i use the bitstamp BTC/GHS rate?"
jurov: now they use windows and excel. that's where i come from
jurov: because there was no popular MS-DOS game with embedded lisp interpreter
jurov: because "oh noes trabant"
jurov: was the interpreter accessible?
kakobrekla: re fw, one of the ways to make it easy one yourself is to keep it as small as possible.
jurov: you keep stuffing into my mouth what i'm not saying
jurov: i'm only saying, show them the light while they want to experiment
jurov: if that entails using rpi, so be it
jurov: adults should do adult things, of course
thestringpuller: +asciilifeform> now you have games (and even virii!) with built-in 'lua' << The engine that came from Jak and Daxter is built in LISP for entity relationships.
fluffypony: Apple is releasing a new programming language
fluffypony: closures, generics, namespaces, the usual
fluffypony: artifexd: no serious - they start it off with "we thought about how we could have Objective C but without the problems of C"
fluffypony: they had to do it at some stage, they were getting jealous of .NET
fluffypony: also they compared performance vs. python and objective-C
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 897 @ 0.0008788 = 0.7883 BTC [-]
fluffypony: "python is slow, objective-C is faster...but Swift is FASTEST!"
Naphex: and java is the best ;]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.0246889 = 0.2963 BTC [+]
artifexd: Rephrase: asciilifeform, I accept your statement as an acceptable representation of reality.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I think they thought they could bend objective-C to become that
Naphex: asciilifeform: what would be your default language for writing a multi-threaded backend, with lots of sockets and nio?
Naphex: asciilifeform: hmm, lets say data aquisition. grabbing gps data from vehicles
Naphex: and managing them so some control commands in there
assbot: Recruiters: Now looking for engineers with 5 years of Swift experience!
assbot: 3 ani experienta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
fluffypony: one nice thing that came out of are the iCloud Drive prices - 200gb for $4/month
fluffypony: so now I know where all my pics are getting backed up to
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0246889 = 0.1234 BTC [+]
fluffypony: I'm going to tell Usagi he should start using iCloud Drive for backup
jurov: "1-click wallet backup"
fluffypony: 1-click backup to Dropbox, LiveDrive, iCloud Drive, and email
assbot: Secretary of State halts Springfield man's Bitcoin operations
jurov: "I encourage Missourians to call my office before making any Bitcoin investments" ohmy
kakobrekla: i dont even get what going on with that
jurov: i move for moiety to call them, ask about mpex and report for lulz
benkay: where is the manul lady
gribble: moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <moiety> how is everyone here?
fluffypony: "Reached by phone Monday afternoon, Slaughter was unaware of Kander's news release but said it must have been part of a settlement his lawyers were working on with the office. He said he also expects to have to pay a fine."
jurov: kander is the state secretary
assbot: Swift - Apple Developer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24300324 BTC [+]
fluffypony: "Swift takes the best features from the C and Objective-C languages. It includes low-level primitives such as types, flow control, and operators. It also provides object-oriented features such as classes, protocols, and generics"
benkay: immutable data structures eh
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet | Page 2 | Bitcointa.lk
fluffypony: "You made a thread here and what did you expect ? people would congradulate you for doing everything wrong ? keep reading your "how to make a web wallet book" you pathetic tool."
benkay: do any of you have a fax number at which i could receive some faxes maybe but probably not?
fluffypony: kakobrekla: shhhh, you're ruining my identity theft scamring
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 486 @ 0.0008815 = 0.4284 BTC [+]
assbot: Female-named hurricanes kill more than male hurricanes because people don’t respect them, study finds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00087868 = 15.948 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16271 @ 0.00087617 = 14.2562 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: oo fellow discordian
BingoBoingo: /me is suspicous to committing to #bitcoin-assets on Freenode on the shirt, because it is hard to know when the situaton will reverse...
jurov: the shirt won't last so long
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8553 @ 0.00087474 = 7.4817 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay: Are they supposing I want to fuck a hurricaine?
assbot: Secretary of State halts Springfield man's Bitcoin operations
BingoBoingo: pankkake: That merely shows how incredibly friendly Missouri is to actual Bitcoin businesses.
pankkake: yes, the response is quite sensible, and seems to be about "deceptive tactics"
assbot: Missouri Secretary of State halts Active Mining's Bitcoin operations : Bitcoin
jurov: and i wanted it to submit as "Active Mining Deactivated" but...
assbot: Atruk comments on Missouri Secretary of State halts Active Mining's Bitcoin operations
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BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I have to imagine some of your neighbors are probably stockpiling BTC to fund a reconquest of Rhodesia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07823999 = 1.1736 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: my mom was born in Rhodesia when it was still called Rhodesia
atcbot: 3k@218 0k@200 7k@200 | 100k@141 250k@140 6k@135
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00087428 = 1.836 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00087428 = 6.5134 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0243 = 0.243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 537 @ 0.00216811 = 1.1643 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02468408 = 0.2468 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8935 @ 0.00087753 = 7.8407 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Naphex: and using fopen('/dev/sttys*') to read serials and sh unix scripts with stty to setup serial ports << pretty lucrative maintenance contract i bet
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yep, 250k/year
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ‘one cannot transition from the informal to the formal by formal means.’ << what's the long story of that ?
mike_c: kakobrekla: i'll try it now, thanks. plus bonus swimsuit pic :)
assbot: Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, funny, because speaking of jets, random person i ran into today had actually heard of bitcoin, AND of urbit
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 663.5, vol: 17323.55731786 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 644.4, vol: 12553.89502 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 662.81, vol: 15993.55399357 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 660.0, vol: 77.21816246 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 643.770105, vol: 5415.03470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 652.0, vol: 8.90331435 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 645.905, vol: 113.3678485 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.02350333 = 0.2115 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: and his comment was "o, those jets thing were the funniest part. "yadda yadda yadda i'm very tired today"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02345011 = 0.1173 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0246889 = 0.321 BTC [+]
nubbins`: it's because of my countless dark secrets ;(
BingoBoingo: Saw interesting creature on the road today. Alligator snapping turtle of roughly a meter in shell circumfrence.
nubbins`: round up some teenagers and a machete and you've got yourself a movie
BingoBoingo: Poor local yokel was trying to coax it off the road with sticks.
nubbins`: because of my countless dick secrets
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> A good deal of Uncharted is written in LISP.
assbot: Alligator snapping turtle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: hm, is "OS X 10.10" pronounced "oh-ess ten ten point ten"?
fluffypony: and everyone must know you're talking about an OS
fluffypony: and not a mountain or whatever the fuck it is
nubbins`: fluffypony, it worked for Mavericks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, as in, without having made a specific appointment to discuss bitcoin and urbit
mircea_popescu: nubbins`, "well, nevermind then" is perhaps the best name so far
Chris_Sabian: what does "-assbot- You have been voiced for 30 minutes by mircea_popescu" mean?
BingoBoingo: moiety: You catch that link about the local fauna, definitely would trade for Manuls
mircea_popescu: so from the "let's encourage people to fly" department :
mircea_popescu: Braniff Airways Flight 542, a Lockheed L-188 Electra, registration N9705C, was a scheduled domestic flight from Houston, Texas, bound for New York with scheduled stops in Dallas and Washington, D.C.. On September 29, 1959, 23 minutes into the 41-minute flight from Houston to Dallas Love Field, the aircraft disintegrated in mid-air approximately 3.8 miles (6.1 km) southeast of Buffalo, Texas killing everyone on board.
mircea_popescu: However, even though it was determined that the wing was destroyed by "cycles of reverse bending" or "flutter", the investigation failed to determine how the flutter was caused, and the investigation stalled.
mircea_popescu: The breakthrough into unlocking the cause of the accident came after the crash of Northwest Airlines Flight 710 on March 17, 1960. The two aircraft, both Electras, disintegrated in mid-air after losing their wings in similar fashion, both resulting in the deaths of all occupants on board.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's why bomb screening focus more on finding dildos than explosives
atcbot: 40k@205 0k@200 7k@200 | 90k@143 100k@141 250k@140
Chris_Sabian: so what are everyone thoughts on AM and Friedcat?
BingoBoingo: Chris_Sabian: Burning the last of the venture
BingoBoingo: Best case when AM1 falls to or Below IPO, maybe friedcat buys everyone out a la Erik and takes it private.
mike_c: what was am ipo price?
Chris_Sabian: there is so much misinformation and rumors it is hard to know what is going on
BingoBoingo: I dunno anything for sure, just supposed the best way this ends.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0230023 = 0.161 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.024689 = 0.2222 BTC [+]
jurov: nubbins`: you think there are cia operatives in chan?
jurov: somehow never considered it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 900 @ 0.00048 = 0.432 BTC [-]
nubbins`: seems like a gross omission on their point otherwise
mike_c: especially with all you foreigners in here.
jurov: mike_c no you are foreigner xD
mircea_popescu: jurov, that was a fact a month or so ago. meanwhile, prolly lost interest, limiting themselves to one intern "checking the weblogs"
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 826 @ 0.00021536 = 0.1779 BTC [-]
jurov: that's very lucky intern
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 166.98309966 BTC; -0.01864958 BTC (-0.0112%) since last check 11h 29m 41s ago.
jurov: ;;seen ThickAsThieves
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 58 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> lol
mike_c: couple bit cents down the drain.
FabianB: increases probability for being a gain next check
mike_c: mpif question: are those 900k+ shares on the order book new shares?
mike_c: hmm, how would you know ;)
FabianB: i think it's the rest of the second 1 mio
kakobrekla: yeah about half was left out in the book
kakobrekla: apple: Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02830333 = 0.3396 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: we were speaking of this earlier today, and then the next thing ya know
jurov demands logs storage into blockchain
jurov: what, to use blockchain to generate conversation?
jurov: leave that up to vexual
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00087424 = 13.7256 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02300199 = 0.115 BTC [-] {5}
dub: surely it only affects a handfull of aspies and retards doe
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 670.0, Best ask: 672.92, Bid-ask spread: 2.92000, Last trade: 670.0, 24 hour volume: 18962.87071715, 24 hour low: 613.03, 24 hour high: 677.77, 24 hour vwap: 642.840145677
mike_c: back to the moon i guess
mike_c: when did bitfinex get so fking big? are they blowing smoke up their own ass?
mike_c: "The Bitfinex trading platform is currently in a beta phase (testing phase). The platform is owned and operated by iFinex Inc. (Bvi), and during this final phase the platform is being prepared to operate under a fully licensed model."
mike_c: well, where do i send my money!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12537 @ 0.00087411 = 10.9587 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i think its cause they do leverage and report those numbers ?
mike_c: i am recalling. soon gox2 will arise with their stolen code and they can compete on even footing.
assbot: [scam tag request] user unclescrooge founder and operator of bitfinex.com | Bitcointa.lk
kakobrekla: but i honestly believe they are getting traffic
kakobrekla: where else sheep gonna go? bitstamp is fucking them too directly.
kakobrekla: and afaik bs did another audit recently, where it shows they have less btc in books t han in the last one
mircea_popescu: im sure they';re getting plenty of traffic, no argument there.
mircea_popescu: as a reddit/facebook/whatever social media site, bitfinex is just as good as any one of a thousand third hand niche things
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: jurov: smbx had perverse incentives (usg funding that appeared bottomless - until it died suddenly. reagan's 'star wars.') << best way to sink a good start-up is a bad revenue source early on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there are reasons a good manager is worth more than a good anything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: re: kickstarter: lol. suggested experiment: open a kickstart, with the headline 'pay my living expense for 20 years. in the end, you might get a useful gizmo if i live that long.' << you're making jurov's argument for him tho.
fluffypony: I find Bitfinex's numbers highly suspect
mircea_popescu: you and everyone else capable of safely keeping a bitcoin for a year
mircea_popescu: jurov: i move for moiety to call them, ask about mpex and report for lulz << carried. moiety plz to call and ask
☟︎ nubbins`: "bongtu" is korean for "plastic bag"
nubbins`: that yellow contraption says "bungtu" written on it
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: benkay: Are they supposing I want to fuck a hurricaine? << imagine the suction.
mircea_popescu: "please kickstart my cool fundamental project. fundamental research is important because it's what keeps kittens purr"
mircea_popescu: in summa : you are approaching it as a hard problem. it's not, it's quite soft
mircea_popescu: Reached by phone Monday afternoon, Slaughter was unaware of Kander's news release but said it must have been part of a settlement his lawyers were working on with the office. He said he also expects to have to pay a fine.
mircea_popescu: "I haven't heard from my lawyer exactly how much that's going to be," he said.
mircea_popescu: idiot. no, it's not part of it. it's part of every govt agency even remotely arguably connected trying to get a slice
mircea_popescu: because they're paid by how much they pretend to have mattered the previous year.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 848 @ 0.00018311 = 0.1553 BTC [-] {40}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00087271 = 12.087 BTC [-] {2}
dub: wtfing at this bittrex feature
dub: Use Caution: This will zero (0) the balance of your wallet and cannot be reversed. Please be absolutely sure you want to do this before you confirm.
kakobrekla: prolly if you end up in negative, you can zero it back!
assbot: Springfield Bitcoin Investment Plan Stopped by State of MO - OzarksFirst.com
danielpbarron: dub, maybe something to do with that change you can never withdraw or trade on exchanges; the stuff that's not big enough for any of the minimums
danielpbarron: (not that a "zero your balance" is a good solution to that0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00087364 = 19.3074 BTC [+]