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trinque: !s I'm just a dude
assbot: 7 results for 'I'm just a dude' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=I%27m+just+a+dude
decimation: "crypto fan"
decimation: !s "crypto fan"
assbot: 1 results for '"crypto fan"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22crypto+fan%22
decimation: From Taleb: "In one of the rare noncharlatanic books in finance, descriptively called What I Learned Losing a Million Dollars, the protagonist makes a big discovery. He remarks that a fellow named Joe Siegel, one of the most successful traders in a commodity called ?green lumber,? actually thought that it was lumber painted green (rather than freshly cut lumber, called green because it had not been dried). And he made it his professio
decimation: "Every intelligent person in socioeconomics had his theory, probabilities, scenarios,
decimation: and all that. Except Fat Tony. ... All he knew is that suckers exist. ... If you asked any intelligent ?analyst? or journalist at the time, he would have predicted a rise in the price of oil in the event of war. But that causal link was precisely what Tony could not take for granted. So he bet against it: they are all prepared for a rise in oil from war, so the price must have adjusted to it. "
decimation: Thus, one can be a crypto-enthusiast and yet have no idea how bitcoin trading works
decimation: or how to name a single pubkey algo
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah. ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !up coalbe
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << myeah. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c
decimation: "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply."" ☟︎
decimation: I'm not really complaining if the new policy is to just summarily execute outlaws, but who gets to decide the list of outlaws?
mircea_popescu: me.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181262 << cool beans! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 21:44:20; lobbes: mircea_popescu: this will apply for #eulora too
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181287 << yes. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled ☟︎
mircea_popescu: somehow i suspect spider queen alf has this very fly entangled somewhere and has been salivating over for x time :D
mircea_popescu: and in other news : the bitcoin chamber of commerce is shifting activities a little. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m27z7384r01rqgaeyo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHSEoa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00045483 = 25.7434 BTC [-]
decimation: maybe she is a crypto-enthusiast too
mircea_popescu: clearly ahead of the reddit curve in any sense ☟︎
decimation: ben_vulpes: http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/cl-manual.html < valgrind has a gadget for callgraph creation too
assbot: Valgrind ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHTH7i )
decimation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9279144/interpreting-callgrind-data < apparently gprof2dot can shit a dot output
assbot: valgrind - Interpreting callgrind data - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHTQrD )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181315 << very spiffy ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 23:34:53; mod6: alright, try it out here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/test/
asciilifeform a bit biased, as he uses vertical displays
mircea_popescu: spiffy indeed
mod6: i have only horiz displays, and it looks way better for me too
mod6: decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181273 << this sounds like a terrifyingly bad idea: if i run sync after mircea_popescu plugs his node back in, and end up with conflicting blocks, the very last thing i want is for it to silently 'fix' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:27:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform ascii_field: ProcessBlock should probably not do that thing where it refuses to import already-seen blocks, instead it should obey its master and snarf up whatever
mod6: Since we all seem to like the Top->Bottom graphs better, I'll re-generate & post them possibly tonight. tomorrow at latest. i've still got about 30% left of SoBA to finish first.
mike_c: http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/#footnote_1_62404
assbot: The actual state of the Bitcoin network on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlOEOo )
mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :) ☟︎
mike_c: maybe this is why I hate footnotes more than most. most don't read them?
asciilifeform not only reads, but sometimes starts with footnotes
mike_c: goddamn "must complete" gene
mike_c: starts? :) that must be confusing
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181371 << almost inevitably the result of this simple experiment is quite unreadable. anyone who wants to try is welcome to: gcc -E ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:15:06; assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled
asciilifeform: afaik gcc does not support multiple ~levels~ of macro expansion (these are braindamaged c macros after all, not a lisp macro system with actual control over evaluation)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181363 << even if rms no longer writes (and i'm informed that this may be the case in recent years) he is still tremendously useful as a 'fire magnet' for shitgnomes ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:12:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << myeah.
asciilifeform: they can't resist
asciilifeform: and thereby reveal their position
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181387 << my igprof patch for therealbitcoin is almost certainly b0rked by the 'dumpblock' addition. but fixing it ought to be trivial - good project for any of the less-experienced folks here ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:28:51; mod6: decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles.
asciilifeform: (easiest method is to actually understand the changes, as one ought to in any case, and re-apply them by hand, then produce new patch)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181360 << l0l, must've missed that thread! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:11:15; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah.
asciilifeform: (but i distinctly recall a 'pear' thread ages ago, where somebody pointed out that the two types can be distinguished by the presence of 'cervix pliers' on the business end)
asciilifeform: http://lenta.ru/news/2015/06/29/flibusta << mega-l0l. ru dept. of net censorship blocks ~the~ w4r3z library, but not for just anything, but for hosting... bradbury's '451 fahrenheit' !
assbot: Онлайн-библиотеку наказали за роман «451 градус по Фаренгейту»: Интернет: Интернет и СМИ: Lenta.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHWMEB )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181365 << my understanding is that this is sop in usa when the escapee is considered 'armed and dangerous' (tm) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:12:59; decimation: "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply.""
asciilifeform: esp. if no witnesses
asciilifeform: the presumption is that a fella who is facing a return to life in hard prison might have an arse grenade, etc., or otherwise disinclined to 'go quietly'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181377 << my current understanding is that the blackout in 'reddit' et al. re: therealbitcoin is more or less total. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:19:55; mircea_popescu: clearly ahead of the reddit curve in any sense
asciilifeform: (if anyone here is a regular reader of these snakepits and knows of evidence to the contrary, it would be interesting to see it)
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000105.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq5rRK )
asciilifeform: '(EXPERIMENTAL) Raw Block Eater'
asciilifeform: (before anyone asks: doesn't require the weird asciification that using 'getmemorypool' to import blocks would)
asciilifeform: quoting from the ml msg,
asciilifeform: 'Using 'dumpblock' and 'eatblock', it is now possible to move blockchains around via various direct channels (e.g., pigeon.)'
asciilifeform: now whoever dares, can ask a node to crap out blocks n ... n+k, pgp-sign, bring them to node having blocks j ... n-1, and 'feed' them to it.
decimation: re: armed and dangerous < I guess. http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29419491/one-of-two-escaped-murderers-from-new-york-prison-shot
assbot: Officers search for New York escapee Sweat - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq5XiT )
decimation: "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire." ☟︎
decimation: ""We recovered a 20-gauge shotgun from Matt's body at the location," said D'Amico." < of course
decimation: http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2015/06/29/woman-knocked-unconscious-at-parade-by-falling-drone/ < lolz "A 25-year-old woman was knocked unconscious Sunday after she was struck by a small drone aircraft while attending the Pride parade in downtown Seattle."
assbot: Woman Knocked Unconscious At Parade By Falling Drone ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq6jGa )
decimation: "At the scene, one the victim?s friends handed over the damaged drone?which retails for about $1200 and weighs about 2 pounds?and provided photographs of a man, who may have been piloting the aircraft."
decimation: I wonder if it is now sop to summarily execute drone pilots too
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this will also shed some light on the effect of the mempool on resource consumption...
mircea_popescu: pretty epic all this shit.
mircea_popescu: best week of bitcoin.
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: pretty basic
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi << via Vexual
assbot: Kryptoradio by Koodilehto ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4pfO3 )
asciilifeform: will be interesting to compare their blocks with ours.
decimation: why the gay rainbow bitcoin logo
asciilifeform: could be the apple-II rainbow
asciilifeform: or the rain rainbow
decimation: heh
asciilifeform: or even the commodore-64 rainbow.
decimation: "QSL cards" are customary in ham radio circles; a postcard is sent to acknowledge contact
decimation: asciilifeform: actually it might be mildly interesting to know how they are 'serializing' the blocks
decimation: did the also implant parasite into bitcoind?
asciilifeform: i'll laugh to death if it's from 'blockchain.info' or the like
mod6: asciilifeform: re: ... the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests ... << yeah this is great!
asciilifeform: mod6: i, for one, am rather curious whether we still get 200M+ footprint when there is ~no~ mempool
asciilifeform: (on a netless node)
decimation: actually it looks like the fins wrote a C client for bitcoin protocol https://github.com/koodilehto/kryptoradio/tree/master/data_sources/bitcoin/src
assbot: kryptoradio/data_sources/bitcoin/src at master · koodilehto/kryptoradio · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4qCfv )
asciilifeform actually wrote something not unlike ^ a few yrs ago
asciilifeform: for an entirely unrelated and - today - uninteresting - purpose
decimation: what purpose?
asciilifeform: blockchain telegraphy
decimation: hehe
asciilifeform: it is now also possible to elementarily ferret out certain kinds of leaks - e.g., does importing the same bastard block ten thousand times result in an increase in ram footprint ? if so, we have leak ☟︎
asciilifeform: and whatever test (igprof, etc) can now be carried out stepwise (that is, after each added block)
asciilifeform: i will leave the possible variations on this theme to the alert reader.
decimation: asciilifeform: did you try the feed block thing
decimation: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/cerberus/notes50-2015-05-24-survey-discussion.html < C horribles
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1dtJOS2 )
asciilifeform: decimation: i just now wrote the patch, l0l
asciilifeform: when would i have tried
decimation: "If you calculate an offset between two separately allocated C memory objects (e.g. malloc'd regions or global or local variables) by pointer subtraction, can you make a usable pointer to the second by adding the offset to the address of the first?" ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: it seems like a clever script could stuff into bitcoind 'as is'
asciilifeform: decimation: sure
asciilifeform: decimation: by emulating a node, etc
asciilifeform: but why.
decimation: yeah, patch is better, agreed
asciilifeform: (who wants, can write this. i've no strong desire to)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181475 << this is not even the worst known abuse. one book (forget whose) actually suggested 'just in time compilation' on arbitrary (!) machines by snarfing up binary routines from function pointers and memcpying them into a buffer, then (*foo)()-ing in... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 03:16:41; decimation: "If you calculate an offset between two separately allocated C memory objects (e.g. malloc'd regions or global or local variables) by pointer subtraction, can you make a usable pointer to the second by adding the offset to the address of the first?"
asciilifeform: this has all the appeal of the russian prison teapot (consisting of a mug, two nails, and a mains socket)
asciilifeform: but hey, 'it works!!111!!1111'
decimation: heh "Can you make a usable copy of a pointer by copying its representation bytes with code that indirectly computes the identity function on them, e.g. writing the pointer value to a file and then reading it back, and using compression or encryption on the way?"
decimation: ^ kinda what you said
decimation: "I've written code for a JIT that stores 64-bit virtual ptrs as their hardware based 48-bits. This is a valuable optimisation, even if it's not strictly OK. (anon)" ☟︎
decimation: good lord, how much software that people use every day is written like this?
asciilifeform: 100% ?
decimation: "You can go much stronger than that. Many security mitigation techniques rely on being able to XOR a pointer with one or more values and recover the pointer later by again XORing with one or more possible different values, (whose total XOR is the same as the original set). (Richard Black)"
decimation: lol who are you hiding from? eax?
asciilifeform: they are hiding from... me & colleagues
asciilifeform: and l0l, it doesn't work terribly well.
asciilifeform: 'On PICs and MCS51s, the two objects could actually be in different data spaces (e.g. RAM vs flash memory).' << correct. at least for the pic16xxx series, which i've used for many years. it is called 'harvard architecture'
asciilifeform: used to be fairly common on micros
asciilifeform: (the starvation-cheap kind)
asciilifeform: pic16f84, my favourite when i was a schoolboy, has 8-bit data word but 14-bit code word, in entirely separate address spaces
asciilifeform: physically had no way to 'jump into' data
decimation: this has confused n00bs when you mention the 'von neumann' arch
asciilifeform: (or, for that matter, refer to bits in code word unless such was designated as a 'return 8-bit constant' instruction)
decimation: they think 'harvard' is better with respect to your 'bedrock' complaints
asciilifeform: 'von neumann arch' traditionally means simply the very idea of having separate devices called memory and cpu
asciilifeform: where the latter is able to operate on a tiny portion of the former in any given operation
asciilifeform: 'harvard' is better in the same sense that it is better to be shot with a .22 than with a cannon
decimation: heh
decimation: at least it's concievable that you could point to the data and code ram chips
asciilifeform: gotta love those prison kettles
asciilifeform: that article ought to be required reading for shitgnomologists
asciilifeform: there is no conceivable reason to ever be doing any of the things described therein
asciilifeform: you can't even win 'underhanded c contest' with them. they're ~screamingly~ bad ideas. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and anyone who is found to be deploying such code, for whatever purpose, ought to answer for it
decimation: 'but it works'
asciilifeform: until not.
decimation: 'you need to support our implementation'
decimation: you can imagine how gcc writers would tire of that kind of bullshit
mats: jurassic world was better than expected
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181488 << this is doubly lulzy considering that i just pulled my dead tree 'amd x86-64 programmer's manual vol. 2' off the shelf, sept. '02 edition, and it defines 52 bits of valid pointer in 64-bit word... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 03:21:55; decimation: "I've written code for a JIT that stores 64-bit virtual ptrs as their hardware based 48-bits. This is a valuable optimisation, even if it's not strictly OK. (anon)"
decimation: hehe
asciilifeform: yes, you probably won't find anything past 40 or so bits soldered on your mainboard
asciilifeform: but, there is the page table
decimation: heh I didn't realize that x86-64 kept page table
asciilifeform: of course it did
asciilifeform: how else could you do the whole mmu thing
asciilifeform: where each process thinks it owns the machine
decimation doesn't do much assembly
asciilifeform: ~segmentation~, that grim old idiocy from the 16-bit 8086 days, gets disabled
asciilifeform: (mostly)
decimation: but in retrospect, makes sense
decimation: I thought i386 added even more segmentation
asciilifeform: speaking of 64-bit ('long') mode here
asciilifeform: it is ~almost~ like a rationally-designed (e.g., 'alpha') cpu
asciilifeform: this is not an accident; amd hired away most of the old dec team who built alpha
decimation: ^ also note intel was derping with itanic around then
asciilifeform: no one ever really built a halfway decent compiler for 'vliw' machines (like itanic)
asciilifeform: http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29430125/governor-puerto-rico-near-death-spiral
assbot: Governor: Puerto Rico near 'death spiral' - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4CkH8 )
asciilifeform: if kim jong un had balls, perhaps he'd buy it. ☟︎
trinque: all that guy wants to do is drink hennesy and fuck bitches.
asciilifeform: to be fair, pretty much everything we know about him comes from south kr (read: usg) mediatrons
decimation: lolz as if puerto rico was anything other than a vassal of usg
decimation: they can go into infinite usd debt
asciilifeform: (e.g., the 'uncle fed to dogs' has since been seen, the gurlphriend beheaded for starring in pr0n has been appearing in public, the footballists 'shot for losing' are playing today...)
asciilifeform: decimation: yes, can go into infinite debt; while usg uses the island for bomb practice
asciilifeform: (the one and only purpose it serves)
decimation: heh
decimation: http://www.naturalnews.com/040671_Puerto_Rico_food_stamps_SNAP_program.html
assbot: One-third of population of Puerto Rico now getting federal food stamps - NaturalNews.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4DD8X )
asciilifeform: if they ever feel like having an actual economy (or simply switching 'sugar daddies') they know who to call
asciilifeform: (or do they)
decimation: my understanding is everyone who is worth a damn has already left
decimation: the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput ☟︎
mats: hm, TIL USG shuttered USN base in puerto rico in 2000s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 330 @ 0.00629999 = 2.079 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: mats: interesting! did not know this.
decimation: that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two
mats: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eE28ONB3/
assbot: Pastebin | IRCCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROoPa7 )
mats: asciilifeform: got an idea? a question in ##re i am also curious about answer to
BingoBoingo: <decimation> that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two << Puerto Rico is basically USG brown people practice range
asciilifeform: mats: if within bounds for relative jump, uses that
mats: if not?
asciilifeform: otherwise a decent compiler does multiple passes
mats: ok, thought so
mats: thx
asciilifeform: http://x86.renejeschke.de/html/file_module_x86_id_147.html << 32-bit
assbot: Shroud: x86 Instruction Set Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROpfxb )
asciilifeform: note that 'long' (64) mode has no absolute far jump
asciilifeform: or rather, has no such with immediate value
asciilifeform: (you ~can~, e.g., 'jmp rax')
asciilifeform: anyone for whom this question is a routine matter really ought to own the book
asciilifeform: (mentioned earlier today)
mats: ive been studying asm for months and i still feel as lost as my first day
asciilifeform: mats: the only cure is to not only read but write
asciilifeform: and experiment
mats: like there's a superset of knowledge i'm missing
asciilifeform: there are at least two sub-fields here - how the machine is put together; and, what idioms are common (i.e. what does a particular compiler crap out and why?)
mats: alright
asciilifeform: mats: some of the more interesting aspects are, as always, corner cases. e.g., how does x86-64 treat self-modifying code? how does this impact cache? can unpriv. ('ring 3') code learn cache state? (to some extent - always!) etc.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181553 << yes, there will be plenty of 'work' to be had there, re-converting the island back into a u.s. bordello as it was in batista's time; 'privatizing' and demolishing the spiffiest pharama plants in the western hemisphere; shipping the best doctors to drive cabs in nyc; etc ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 04:12:09; decimation: the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that there ever was a ~less~ sympathetic bunch of dekulakized folks than the cuban 'refugees' in usa
asciilifeform: (by some versions, these are the people who gave us... bush II)
asciilifeform: hard to picture a sorrier bunch of bitter schmucks, eagerly taking it up the arse from history's biggest and most obscene communist mega-empire (usg) to spite their little piss-ant one ☟︎
mod6 is still going on this thing.
mod6: getting close though
mod6: lotta stuff this month!
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah it's a fair point
scoopbot_revived: CUNY Keeps Bezzle Flowing to Krugman http://qntra.net/2015/06/cuny-keeps-bezzle-flowing-to-krugman/
decimation: re: cubans
decimation: they wanna give us bush III too
trinque: I can think of another honorarium the republic might keep herr krugman in for entertainment purposes.
BingoBoingo: Vending machine later
trinque: I'm thinking a sort of dunking booth with better toys.
BingoBoingo: But this is just another quicker example of documenting the kicks
decimation: heh http://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe/
assbot: Shiller PE Ratio ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmfAxj )
decimation: S&P 500 price/earnings ratio is looking pretty toppy...
trinque: decimation: currency crisis or gtfo
decimation: !up Vexual
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdcmM9T8vD4
decimation: trinque: looks like the eu is trying to start one
trinque: so tired of waiting for the horrible missteps of that which was once styled republic to incur their cost
decimation: lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses < related ☟︎
assbot: Uber Bonds Term Sheet Reveals $470 Million in Operating Losses - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRPEIO )
Vexual: bushIIIzadoozie
Vexual: AIIB ftw
punkman: http://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2015-06/0143.html
assbot: Curl: [SECURITY NOTICE] libidn with bad UTF8 input ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kmggmm )
Vexual: ubers greek?
punkman: no, that's how "big in SV" works
Vexual: sv?
punkman: silicon valley
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00046059 = 26.8063 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: tv here shows greeks complaining that germans don't understand greece
mats: like a crack dealer doesn't understand a junkie
punkman: german citizens about as clueless as the greeks
Vexual: ^
decimation: germans have profited for years by loaning greeks eu dollars and then selling them shit to buy them back
decimation: it's all just a stupid shell game
mod6: Ok, just about done. And that's jsut about all for me tonight.
punkman: would you vote in a referendum?
mod6: I did remove the original http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/ source code browser for the one that was in /test/ with the Top->Bottom graphs.
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRQAgi )
punkman: think I'm gonna stick to my "no voting" policy
mod6: So that one should be fine now. Tomorrow, I'll update the graphs in this one: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRQANi )
decimation: punkman: what if the referendum were for ending the popular vote?
mats: lol
decimation: I would vote for it
mats: i would question reality if this came to pass
Vexual: you may have to
decimation: mats: to believe it wouldn't pass is to believe that the voter places his own interest above that of the group
decimation: which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group ☟︎
decimation: !up Vexual
Vexual: i don't vote, iv'e got email
decimation: Vexual: compulsory voting is a contradiction. like compulsory wealth.
Vexual: indeed, noone must read my bullshit either
Vexual: poor fuck who tried to exit usa just got busted in my neck of the woods
Vexual: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/american-tourist-found-after-five-years-missing-in-qld-20150629-gi0xh5.html
Vexual: do not pass go
decimation: did the local cops shoot on sight?
Vexual: nah, but hes in custody and going home on an economy flight
decimation: heh "A police spokesman said the officers were investigating an unrelated matter and did not know who he was, but Mr Rodman thought the police had come to arrest him and gave himself up."
decimation: poor guy was obviously paranoid
Vexual: obviously?
Vexual: perhaps he was broke and homesick
decimation: what's the point of 'escaping' to another country if you can't enjoy yourself
Vexual: i wonder if he left and coin behind?
decimation: go to queensland and search his hovel :)
Vexual: im in queensland, can u link hovel?
cazalla: Vexual, was prob a spy and his time was up
Vexual: lol, everything is illegal here, but you you must confess on a bicycle to get caught
decimation: they were probably looking for the bum that shit on the local picnic tables
Vexual: lol
decimation: fella had a guilty conscience
Vexual: exactly
decimation: cazalla: an american spy? why would usg bother?
cazalla: wonder how many seppos overstay their visa anyway
decimation: I doubt there's anything australia knows that they wouldn't happily give away in exchange for coin
Vexual: fuckin loads
cazalla: decimation, was being facetious
decimation: how's that marine base going
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94000 @ 0.00046393 = 43.6094 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: decimation, which one? US has quite a few bases here now
decimation: I guess I was thinking of the new one near darwin
punkman: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/after-bitcoin-loan-goes-south-judge-rules-man-must-repay-over-67000/
assbot: After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must repay over $67,000 | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrEaNt )
cazalla: http://www.anti-bases.org/images/AustraliaUSAbases.gif (nfi how legit this map is but seeing it fits my narrative lol)
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrEb3T )
decimation: I think obama wanted to show china how serious he was back then
cazalla: one day hopefully can do some urbex at pinegap
Vexual: lol
decimation: lol seismic stations
decimation: oh no, usg is gonna know how u shakin
decimation: lots of countries in the world have anti-base posters like this in local language, yet more bases seem to be the order
Vexual: https://www.douglasvanbossuyt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_27301.jpg <this for uberx cazalla?
cazalla: nah, i'd be going on dirt bike tbh
Vexual: good luck getting it okayed as a saloon car
decimation: lol is that mad max
Vexual: yeah pine gap shit
cazalla: !up Vexual
Vexual: cazalla might prefferent a z900 kawasaki, but they were for the baddies
cazalla: wouldn't it be sick if this got over the line on the last day https://bitbet.us/bet/1135/btc-to-top-350-before-1st-july/
assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $350 before 1st July :: 7.39 B (10%) on Yes, 65.9 B (90%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kqnbg1 )
decimation: is it ticking up?
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.79, Best ask: 267.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 267.93, 24 hour volume: 43306.98643878, 24 hour low: 249.43, 24 hour high: 267.9, 24 hour vwap: None
Vexual: no chance
decimation: heh
Vexual: ooh maybe
Vexual: lol vulves corvette is now worth less
Vexual: watch the unt give 0
decimation: why outfit your mad max cruiser with that kind of tank?
decimation: drive for 24 hours without refuel?
Vexual: coz theres no servos
Vexual: yep
cazalla: who needs a servo Vexual when ya can carry a few tanks on a postie bike
decimation: bike doesn't need much gas
decimation: meanwhile your balls gonna fall off after hour 22
Vexual: whats the range on a postie bike? 80km?
Vexual: refuel is 2 hrs?
cazalla: dunno but they go forever
cazalla: durable too, i'll get through any aussie terrain
Vexual: u owned 1?
cazalla: nah but a mate did
cazalla: i was gonna get one but got a zzr instead
Vexual: yeah cunts boat em to asia to continue the journey
Vexual: aweful beats that kwaka 250\
Vexual: *beast
Vexual: its called a ninja now and its detuned
Vexual: sure its fast but the valves dont resond properly
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwacyd9cqhQ
Vexual: top flick
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDmPJc7fN4
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE < shes dying
punkman: cazalla, would qntra like an article on .gr capital controls?
BingoBoingo: punkman: Do it
cazalla: if you're familiar with the situation, sure
BingoBoingo: punkman: If you can get it done before UTC rolls over into July you could still sneak in on the June statement
BingoBoingo: *in meaning in time to get published
BingoBoingo: But no rush
cazalla: one for BingoBoingo https://youtu.be/1_XuwM844bY?t=1m52s
assbot: Breaking Bias | Sarah Bramblette | TEDxNSU - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g5v5yD )
BingoBoingo: God's sitting this one out
shinohai: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/29/dogecoin_app_ftc/
assbot: Chap slapped in Dogecoin crap app flap • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1C4zzzC )
fluffypony: dat dogecoin
shinohai: Surprising to me how long scams can stay afloat, and what people can build on top of them.
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=30064771079 (Raphael Randschau ; Raphael Nicolai Fabian Randschau (Uni Kiel) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/97CE2FE7747AC2CFA1531450412E093BC09E40955B7193BD37F377AE1FBD3645#4526599566CBC0905AF62AF3B6A23C1801277E6A086F645C00B8E978547C848A>
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 )
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-care-and-feeding-of-financial-black.html << pretty fine orl0l re: greece
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Care and Feeding of a Financial Black Hole ... ( http://bit.ly/1egCDxc )
asciilifeform: '...anyone who knows mathematics can see that the United States is on the verge of collapse because its debt has gone exponential. These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique Strauss-Kahn treatment...' ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: heh. it's no secret the trouble they are all in, it's merely a matter of publically pretending otherwise - and getting the press to hop on board
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i don't think that it's *unnecessary* or anything, i'm just curious as to why it needs explicit enabling.
ben_vulpes: curious why *you think* it needs explicit enabling.
ben_vulpes: "filein >> block;" << this overloaded operator still baffles me.
Jautenim: out-of-the-box auto.sh fails to install openssl on a cleanish x86-64 ubuntu 14.04
Jautenim: but dpb's fix for the pogo also werks
Jautenim: !s install_sw
assbot: 7 results for 'install_sw' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=install_sw
decimation: ^ should be the default build now
Jautenim: shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix
Jautenim: oh k, nevermind then
decimation: background: openssl docs fail to generate properly, so install_sw should be used instead
decimation: no I mean you are right, mod6/ben_vulpes should integrate that fix
mod6: nubs submitted a patch for that -- it'll be fixed in the next milestone for sure. thanks for the heads up Jautenim.
Jautenim: any time :)
mod6: that patch is here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-April/000082.html << this patch does a few other things too, might be worth a read through though to see how it aligns with what you had already done to your own local auto.sh.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKgFLd )
scoopbot_revived: Climate change is a good thing, NOT THE APOCALYPSE, mkay? http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/30/climate-change-is-a-good-thing-not-the-apocalypse-mkay/
mod6: [ the relivant part here anyway is the alterations to auto.sh ]
Jautenim: yes. in fact i just s/make install/make install_sw on auto.sh
Jautenim: but this patch don't seem to avoid the offending makefile directive, does it?
Jautenim: from openssl-1.0.1g/Makefile -> install: all install_docs install_sw
mod6: ah, ok yeah.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes well, the model t ain't no duesenberg if that's what you mean.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181326 << myea. something thooper progressive like that. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 23:47:53; ben_vulpes: ah they're probably deprecating some old api, pete_dushenski
mod6: Jautenim: sorry, I had it kinda mixed up. The patch link I posted is to resolve the issue where the libs and headers don't get copied over.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180292 << this is a point. mebbe 1 share per picture ? mebbe 10 ? mebbe 0. i kinda like text-based news but there's little doubt that qntra could grow its readership (if that's the intention) with more visuals. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski ☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.43, Best ask: 267.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 267.49, 24 hour volume: 46254.35097666, 24 hour low: 252.79, 24 hour high: 268.1, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181735 << poor straussy. all he ever did was question the use of inflation targets by central banks. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 14:25:50; asciilifeform: '...anyone who knows mathematics can see that the United States is on the verge of collapse because its debt has gone exponential. These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique
mod6: <+Jautenim> shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix << If you're in the WoT (looks like you are) feel free to submit a patch as you like.
Jautenim: k, I'll give it a go
mod6: Salud!
pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "Cenovus Energy Inc (CVE.TO), Canada's second-largest independent oil producer, said on Tuesday it has agreed to sell its portfolio of oil and gas royalty properties to Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan for about C$3.3 billion ($2.66 billion)." << speaking of deals, a big one for canada.
pete_dushenski: cenovus is based in alberta and it quite clearly in the crosshairs of the new socialist government and its anti-business platform that -will- include increases in oil royalties
pete_dushenski: "Teachers' said the latest deal offers diversification benefits and a hedge against unexpected inflation." << lol! unexpected for who ?!
ben_vulpes: Jautenim: yeah, i ran into that one as well
ben_vulpes: btw - i've yet to get boost to compile and exit 0
ben_vulpes: and yet bitcoind builds
ben_vulpes quakes in boots
pete_dushenski: "Heritage Royalty owns about 4.8 million acres of royalty interest and mineral fee title lands in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Royalty lands are privately held oil and gas properties that are not subject to the royalties that producers pay governments for operating on publicly owned lands." << ok that's actually a super interesting detail. so cenovus is offloading the land that's -exempt- from royalties w
pete_dushenski: hile keeping the stuff that is.
pete_dushenski: i guess the offer was too sweet to pass up.
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html#ak47.sh << i've been working with this. it uses bash, so less portable, but it fails on any error which makes it easier to debug, as the script exits whenever anything goes wrong
assbot: a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcOQRm )
ben_vulpes: aand pete, i'm talking about mr. musk's overpriced station wagon
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: the 's' is the sedan, the 'x' is the suv... is the 't' the little one that's in the pipeline ?
ben_vulpes: ah!
ben_vulpes: no, i'm just retarded.
ben_vulpes: the model s is a betamobile
ben_vulpes: s/retarded/don'treallycareaboutmoderncarnamingconventions
pete_dushenski: ahahah
ben_vulpes: "o hai i bought a thooper expensive babywaggon"
pete_dushenski: well, things have names is all.
pete_dushenski: myea
ben_vulpes: i've no idea how i got it into my head that it was called the model t.
pete_dushenski: they've exploded here this summer, from 0 last year to dozens this year
ben_vulpes: yeah, all over here as well.
ben_vulpes: driven mostly by harried sunken-chested polo-shirt wearing dads
pete_dushenski: and parked in front of their post-post-modern duplexes with rooftop patios and pv sunshades
pete_dushenski: sorta the mo
ben_vulpes: i have to imagine that's what they drive into town from.
ben_vulpes: don't knock the rooftop patio mang
pete_dushenski: lol i'm not the one saying tesla drivers are pussies, you are !
pete_dushenski: i'm as fond of rooftop patios as anyone
ben_vulpes: i'm just describing the car. can't really generalize about groups
pete_dushenski: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/23/tesla-disputes-rumors-model-3-delay/ << mebbe the '3' sounded like a 't' in your head, ben ?
assbot: Tesla disputes rumors of Model 3 delay ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4zEJ7 )
pete_dushenski: ^it will, of course, be massively delayed.
ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/6nxSOBo << today's view from the office patio
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4zLEy )
pete_dushenski: o hey, not too shabby at all.
pete_dushenski: so that's what the view from the top looks like.
ben_vulpes: hah
ben_vulpes: you can't see it for the trees, but we have clients in a building across the river that are *far* higher on the bezzletrough than us
ben_vulpes: we? i.
pete_dushenski: something to aim for !
pete_dushenski: btw how goes the baby-prepping/proofing ?
ben_vulpes: well, ty
pete_dushenski: moving house, cleaning out current one ?
ben_vulpes: no no, staying in the current hobbit hole.
ben_vulpes: no sense in accelerating the hedonic treadmill any faster than is strictly necessary.
pete_dushenski: agreed.
ben_vulpes: lady v did procure a 4ft tall giraffe recently, though
pete_dushenski: treadmill moves plenty quickly enough without much help.
pete_dushenski: a cute !
ben_vulpes: and one of these for like 40 bucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bloom-Coco-Baby-Natural-Bent-Plywood-Lounger-Bouncer-Rocker-Swing-Modern-/281466524211
assbot: Bloom Coco Baby Natural Bent Plywood Lounger Bouncer Rocker Swing Modern | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4BjhL )
ben_vulpes: but in maroon wood and white leather
pete_dushenski: huh sharp little design there
ben_vulpes: no plastic baby cages in my house no ty
pete_dushenski: he'll sleep in the bed with you then ?
pete_dushenski: or (wood) bassinet ?
ben_vulpes: yeah some cosleeping to begin with ☟︎
ben_vulpes: and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what has happened to me
ben_vulpes: why am i talking about bay crap
ben_vulpes: how about that eatblock patch?
pete_dushenski: lol
pete_dushenski: i dun think that a little plastic is the end of the world, not like we didn't grow up with it
pete_dushenski: sure, steel and wood carriages and cribs are better, but doesn't mean such things exist for less than $maxint
ben_vulpes: living well in NA is all about the art of judiciously applied delicately spun hydrocarbons
danielpbarron: !up wjko777
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell menahem lol at travis ! 1 btc for a lifetime membership to his tardsclub. as fucking if.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181737 << because i wished to highlight the experimental character of the whole direct block injection thing ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 15:11:06; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag?
ascii_field: and in general, when adding a peculiar and unfamiliar behaviour to bitcoin, it is good practice to place a red flip-cover around the button
ben_vulpes: and flip-cover for eatblock because state of running bitcoinator is mutated by its use, while the dumpblock does not mutate and so does not need a flag?
ben_vulpes: (and imagine my disappointment when you didn't name it shitblock!)
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: rename if you like!
ascii_field: srsly my turds aren't 'gospel', publish corrections/repaintings/etc
ascii_field: dumpblock is non-destructive, aha
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: https://ontario.westburne.ca/shopimages/canadamedia/8/0/6/8796436299806.jpg << example
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GX1Mag )
pete_dushenski: also http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f6/21/71/f62171fd29dd08501de7515f76540bb1.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BUCx9o )
pete_dushenski: ^name that car, kidz !
mod6: !up ascii_field
danielpbarron: !up Eulorian
Naphex: https://xotika.tv/#/channel115/LovelyTaya enjoy xD
assbot: XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO5HSK )
Jautenim: mod6: hm, I've carefully read http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev but I believe mailman is not accepting my emails
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6uTT )
Jautenim: should it barf something back at me? I'm not receiving any feedback either
mod6: ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com ☟︎
mod6: plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file
danielpbarron: he's got a +1 from MP
mod6: some detals on that are here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO76so )
mod6: danielpbarron: yeah, i saw that. i thought that'd be enough. but maybe something else is up? anyway, you can send to me. I'll review, etc.
Jautenim: sure! i was puzzled too, thought that'd be enough
mod6: <+mod6> plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file << along with the patch itself i might add!
Jautenim: there you go
mod6: perfect, thanks!
mod6: **NOTICE** I'll be updating the graphs in this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ in about the next ~15 minutes. So if there's a hiccup, just wait a minute or six.
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZV1f )
mod6: derp: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZX9E )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://www.hembrow.eu/personal/necpc8201a.html ☟︎
assbot: NEC PC8201a laptop computer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr04li )
ascii_field: BingoBoingo and other archaeologists ^
ascii_field: ' the NEC still wins over most portable computers of any time for the quality of its keyboard. This is a machine for typing on, and producing content, not for consuming content... Even now, nearly 30 years after production, it still works perfectly. The larger capacity modern rechargeable AA cells means that four of these will keep it running for weeks. Astonishing battery life compared with modern devices.' ☟︎
ascii_field: 'I plan to start using the machine again because its keyboard is superior to any other laptop that I've owned and it boots far faster than any other laptop that I've owned.'
trinque: neat. that thing's exactly what I've meant about a device which is only for editing buffers of text.
ascii_field: trinque: i've been looking for something that fits that description - while not being a piece of shit - for a decade
ascii_field: even bought a weird jp device, 'pomera dm20', once
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45080 @ 0.00045047 = 20.3072 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: now it gathers dust - keyboard has three or so keys that flip the thing into jp mode, and they 'get pressed' constantly (on account of how cramped the thing is)
ascii_field: and before anyone links to the barfalicious 'hemingwriter' thing - just don't. please.
ascii_field: FUCK 3d-printed faux typewriter case, screen one has to squint at, and 'cloud'
trinque: what a dumb pile of hipster wank
trinque goes to forage for coffee
punkman: speaking of hipsters, behold http://www.usbtypewriter.com/collections/typewriters
assbot: USB Typewriter ~ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1gVX )
ascii_field: l0l
mod6: ok http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ has been updated
assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1koz )
ascii_field: which patches ?
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1s7G )
mod6: awe jeeze
mod6: lol
shinohai: @ mod6 so no more manual patch applications?
ascii_field: wai wat?!
ascii_field: shinohai: that thing is intended only for eyeballs/study
shinohai: kk
ascii_field: it is not a shithub
mod6: huh? no, im laughing because when I swapped the doxygens around (LR, to TB) i nuked the file that showed the patches included.
mod6: and I can't find a backup
ascii_field: shinohai: in all cases, the canonical code is the original pedigreed and signed 0.5.3 and the sequence of signed patches which add up to a release
mod6: I did it like that because the list of patch names is far too long. makes it look kinda ridiculous in the header
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116000 @ 0.00045013 = 52.2151 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Stator on shittop sync'd to 200 kiloblocks
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
mod6: well, i still had the build directory anyway. a list of patches & checksums is at the same URL nao: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKIi5m )
ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: presently, while i'm doing entirely other things, it it running pmap -XX <pid> after each eat
ascii_field: and saving output thereof
ascii_field: later this week (still gotta do my broadcast tonight...) will throw this into 'gnuplot'
ascii_field: unless somebody else wants to..
ascii_field: the raw blocks 0...217336 sum to 5.3GB.
ascii_field: (actual mass of these, without ~anything~ extra)
ascii_field: (if this wasn't clear, this is a node running without a net connection at all)
jurov: hi all, was afk
ascii_field: jurov missed all the good stuff, l0l
jurov: ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat
jurov: would be interesting to compare them
ascii_field: i mean, the blocks were in there to begin with
ascii_field: they did not come from my arse
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117982.0
assbot: [BETA] Bitcoin blockchain torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqI8pi )
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0 lol and they managed to obsolete it already
assbot: [ANN] Bitcoin blockchain data torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqIah6 )
ascii_field: and i never imagined i was the first to ever dump blocks - i think just about everybody had some 3rd party script thing to do it with
ascii_field: but now one can single-step the sync, and remove just about all nondeterminism
mircea_popescu: ahhh
ascii_field: mircea_popescu!
mircea_popescu: heya.
mircea_popescu: dezastru ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many times in the history of linux one has issued the command ;;
mircea_popescu: somehow i suspect its more common than kk
ascii_field: kein dezastru
ascii_field: but many good things
mircea_popescu is going to get top the logs just as soon as he's done hammering the seeder into shape
mircea_popescu: which should be soonish
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i would have inquired whether front facing fanny or rear facing fanny, but i was pressed for time sadly.
ascii_field: l0l!
BingoBoingo: <jurov> ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat << As far as I'm aware the "bootstrap.dat" never got implemented in a way that worked beyond the first 2GB of blockchain on pre-v0.8 clients
mircea_popescu: afaik this ^ is correct
BingoBoingo spent some time dicking around with it when did OpenBSD 0.7.2 -ish build
BingoBoingo: Bootstrap.dat did what it was supposed to on v0.8.6 though, didn
BingoBoingo: 't much speed up sync because verification is still CPU bound
ascii_field: how was it generated ?
BingoBoingo: I think garzick had a script somewhere I'll did
BingoBoingo: *dig
ascii_field: and i beg to differ that direct arse-to-mouth of blocks 'doesn't speed sync'
ascii_field: it sure as fuck does
ascii_field: on account of not having the hours-long bastard block doldrums
ascii_field: nor is mempool churning
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0
assbot: [ANN] Bitcoin blockchain data torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqK8Ow )
ascii_field: https://github.com/jgarzik/pynode/blob/master/mkbootstrap.py << ick
assbot: pynode/mkbootstrap.py at master · jgarzik/pynode · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqKeFX )
BingoBoingo: Well, once I got into 2013 and months crawled into taking days per any speed up wasn't much noticable
ascii_field: i'm speaking of ~hours~ here
BingoBoingo: Ah hours out of weeks
ascii_field: mno, hours total
ascii_field: from 0 to maxheight
BingoBoingo: Apparently 'cat' is fine too https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/10381/creating-my-own-bootstrap-dat
assbot: blockchain - Creating my own bootstrap.dat? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKW3m4 )
BingoBoingo just be running horribru underpowered machines for this task
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: entirely not the same
ascii_field: has the 'prefix network number' bullshit
BingoBoingo: Ah
ascii_field: (and length field)
mircea_popescu: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbException' << teh sound of unhappy. i'll be doing shasums for the rest of the day by the looks of it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00046402 = 30.6253 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0041 << in classic 0.5.3. naturally i haven't the faintest clue re: yours
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKY3ur )
mircea_popescu: it's almopst always a corrupterd db
mircea_popescu: apparently the "damaged in transit" thing happens o.O
ascii_field: at any rate, i posted checksums of what i personally got over the wire, earlier.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've been digging into all sorts of strange re this since 3 days ago, what's a bucket more.
mircea_popescu: ah, those don't help, obv every client makes its own blockchain set
ascii_field: all 16MB of them
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: actually!
ascii_field: blocks are canonical
ascii_field: recall, we have 'dumpblock'
ascii_field: yes, it follows main chain
BingoBoingo: Just BDB not necessarily canonical unless "detatched"
mircea_popescu: i have never seen blknnnn of the same size even, forget the same contents
ascii_field: so it is conceivable that yours barfed on an orphaned (in the original sense) block
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ~blocks are canonical~
mircea_popescu: vanishingly unlikely.
ascii_field: that's sorta the whole point of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: yes i know. talking bout my own problem here!
ascii_field: l0l
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: the sorry man's world is his sorrow.
ascii_field: for what it's worth, all the blocks i got from mircea_popescu are successfully eaten by my 0.5.4 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeh the problem's later, 310kish
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: consider preserving the turd for dissection
mircea_popescu: im preservin'.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up mitzip
mircea_popescu: how i feel, illustrated : http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ygcdDW8U1qgvnq9o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKYZPv )
BingoBoingo: mitzip: You do work on funtoo?
mitzip: BingoBoingo: yes, but I haven't been active lately
BingoBoingo: mitzip: Still, great project.
mitzip: BingoBoingo: thanks I feel the same way :)
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3RDD2F9.txt ☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKZARb )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
ascii_field: $ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_mp_strange/blk0001.dat
ascii_field: 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a
ascii_field: $ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_ok/blk0001.dat 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a
ascii_field: ^ from a node synced in february
ascii_field: 'mp_strange' is the data set discussed earlier
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00046668 = 9.987 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: either mircea_popescu, or i, or both, is suffering from 'cosmic rays'
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: maybe this is half-deterministic somehow ? did you make them on the same build ?
ascii_field: 0.5.3 variants
mircea_popescu: odd, they really shouldn't match
ascii_field: mp_strange was on the 'stator' build
ascii_field: why shouldn't they match ?
mircea_popescu: cuz bdb strange
ascii_field: these aren't bdb files! ☟︎
ascii_field: they're blkxxxx.dat format
ascii_field: nothing to do with bdb
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#1527
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1eYAiIi )
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0771
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1IL2dm4 )
BingoBoingo: Google, not the Rebel Flag is the real racist http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/06/30/google_s_image_recognition_software_returns_some_surprisingly_racist_results.html
assbot: Google's image recognition software returns some surprisingly racist results. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eYCQ9s )
trinque: lol!
mircea_popescu: it's ok, google has letter from stalin.
mircea_popescu: stop being racist.
trinque: While Google’s efforts to solve this problem are admirable, it’s still troubling that it happened at all. As Alciné wrote on Twitter, “I understand HOW this happens; the problem is moreso on the WHY.” << oh for fuck's sake
trinque: someday soon they're going to start calling this kind of shit something as stupid as "micro-terrorism"
trinque tries to come up with a more fitting euphemistic propaganda term
trinque: neh I like micro-terrorism... there it stays
trinque: http://www.uwsp.edu/acadaff/NewFacultyResources/NFSRacialMicroaggressions_Table.pdf << lawl
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1eYDELx )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you have any other nodes of this kind, consider posting the hash
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17221 @ 0.00046918 = 8.0797 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ascii_field atm re-doing filecopying.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181836 <<< the plastic shit is everywhere :\ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 16:24:21; ben_vulpes: and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us
cazalla: and even if you don't buy it or try to limit it, well intentioned friends and family try to load you up with all manner of shit
shinohai: Possible r/bitcoiner? http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/portland_man_arrested_for_viol.html#incart_most-read_
assbot: Portland man arrested for violent tantrum after seeing Comcast worker in bedroom | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5wi8U )
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Likely
cazalla: don't you ever touch a white man's modem
shinohai: Nah he was probably being defensive because he was afraid they would find his My Little Pony playset or something.
cazalla: he does look like an mlp fag eh
shinohai: I have only seen the Comcast guy 2 times in 5 years in this place I live.
shinohai: There is a slight spelling error in this document: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5xA3A )
BingoBoingo: !s electrum
assbot: 189 results for 'electrum' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=electrum
trinque: shinohai: I noticed that as well
trinque: "oppinion"
shinohai: ^
shinohai is a spelling Nazi
mats: http://gcc.godbolt.org
assbot: Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5xWay )
mats: found it just in time for my education
trinque: ah that's cool
trinque: UI's a little dumb
trinque: I tend to call that periscope UI
trinque: where you're looking through a tiny window at some scrollable thing
trinque: needs moar pixels
BingoBoingo: Anyone try running electrum-server yet against Foundation or later build? Once stator on craptop syncs on craptop I plan on seeing if they get along
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.01227109 = 1.2271 BTC [-] {6}
trinque: !up CheckDavid
CheckDavid: when I want to talk here I never manage to get voice lol
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I did but I failed :/
trinque: CheckDavid: pm someone voiced when that happens
shinohai: Heaven't tried in a while though. I was drunk.
trinque: !gettrust CheckDavid
assbot: CheckDavid is not registered in WoT.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Ah. If you try again let me know what they errors were like. Still prolly have a month or so before craptop finishes sync
shinohai: craptop ?
trinque: !h
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
trinque: CheckDavid: ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181614 @ 0.0004773 = 86.6844 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52186 @ 0.00048707 = 25.4182 BTC [+]
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I have been able to run it against termcoin, which I don't recommend as a real wallet.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Was recently gifted second laptop. Single core AMD 64bit atom-like processor. Testing stator 0.5.4 build, once sync'd will likely dick around with electrum server against a foundation build with aim of eventually setting up a dedi-box
shinohai: I have a dedi server for foundation use if we do get electrum running
BingoBoingo hoping I don't have to make a bunch of patches to the RPC for this to work
shinohai: The only issue I had was importing private keys, but I solved that.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181952 <<< perhaps a rash on her pussy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLnPKUPE4yo ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 19:33:05; mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?"
assbot: Larry David - Curb Your Enthusiasm "Pussy Rash" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5AyFs )
trinque: ^gross
trinque commits microaggression against the differently-hygiened
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttchina
gribble: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 262.746045, Best ask: 262.88298, Bid-ask spread: 0.13693, Last trade: 262.775043, 24 hour volume: 31846.62470000, 24 hour low: 256.037841, 24 hour high: 268.3926, 24 hour vwap: 262.529039618
mats: microterrorism, foo
cazalla: making up your own microaggression is nanoaggresion mats
cazalla: and anyway, people in this channel make gigaaggressions
mats: we'll leave it to twitter to decide wut is wut
punkman: lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxwLt_UEAAbmcL.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5DBxa )
shinohai: I'll bet r/bitcoin had that CNN feed up praying that it triggers mass Greek adoption.
punkman: Greece has barely even adopted credit cards
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45225 @ 0.00048728 = 22.0372 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: hue, motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable?trk_source=homepage-lede ☟︎
assbot: Bitcoin Is Unsustainable | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5GPkq )
jurov: BingoBoingo: electrum did require patches even in 0.8
BingoBoingo: Ah
shinohai: hmm
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/haY5dyt.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5IgiI )
BingoBoingo: ^ Free to be Liberia
cazalla: that pic isn't really a fair representation of the problematic hambeasts
cazalla: needs more coloured hair, piercings, tats, triple chins and no dress sense
trinque: "That makes Bitcoin about 5,033 times more energy intensive, per transaction, than VISA" << what a crock of shit
trinque: you have to count every payment processor in the whole byzantine credit card system if you're going to play that game
trinque: ^ from BingoBoingo's motherboard article
decimation: ^ plus all the bureaucrats who work for visa/banks/usg to 'oversee' the system
decimation: and the care, feeding, coddling thereof
shinohai: That same tired argument has echoed from every supporter of PoS for as long as I can remember.
scoopbot_revived: Current Greek Capital Controls http://qntra.net/2015/06/current-greek-capital-controls/
trinque: lol... goxxed
BingoBoingo: Goxxed indeed