decimation: From Taleb: "In one of the rare noncharlatanic books in finance, descriptively called What I Learned Losing a Million Dollars, the protagonist makes a big discovery. He remarks that a fellow named Joe Siegel, one of the most successful traders in a commodity called ?green lumber,? actually thought that it was lumber painted green (rather than freshly cut lumber, called green because it had not been dried). And he made it his professio
decimation: "Every intelligent person in socioeconomics had his theory, probabilities, scenarios,
decimation: and all that. Except Fat Tony. ... All he knew is that suckers exist. ... If you asked any intelligent ?analyst? or journalist at the time, he would have predicted a rise in the price of oil in the event of war. But that causal link was precisely what Tony could not take for granted. So he bet against it: they are all prepared for a rise in oil from war, so the price must have adjusted to it. "
decimation: Thus, one can be a crypto-enthusiast and yet have no idea how bitcoin trading works
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c
decimation: "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply.""
☟︎ decimation: I'm not really complaining if the new policy is to just summarily execute outlaws, but who gets to decide the list of outlaws?
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 21:44:20; lobbes: mircea_popescu: this will apply for #eulora too
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled
☟︎ mircea_popescu: somehow i suspect spider queen alf has this very fly entangled somewhere and has been salivating over for x time :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00045483 = 25.7434 BTC [-]
mod6: i have only horiz displays, and it looks way better for me too
mod6: decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:27:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform ascii_field: ProcessBlock should probably not do that thing where it refuses to import already-seen blocks, instead it should obey its master and snarf up whatever
mod6: Since we all seem to like the Top->Bottom graphs better, I'll re-generate & post them possibly tonight. tomorrow at latest. i've still got about 30% left of SoBA to finish first.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :)
☟︎ mike_c: maybe this is why I hate footnotes more than most. most don't read them?
mike_c: goddamn "must complete" gene
mike_c: starts? :) that must be confusing
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:15:06; assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:28:51; mod6: decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:11:15; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah.
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assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:12:59; decimation: "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply.""
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:19:55; mircea_popescu: clearly ahead of the reddit curve in any sense
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decimation: "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire."
☟︎ decimation: ""We recovered a 20-gauge shotgun from Matt's body at the location," said D'Amico." < of course
decimation: "At the scene, one the victim?s friends handed over the damaged drone?which retails for about $1200 and weighs about 2 pounds?and provided photographs of a man, who may have been piloting the aircraft."
decimation: I wonder if it is now sop to summarily execute drone pilots too
decimation: "QSL cards" are customary in ham radio circles; a postcard is sent to acknowledge contact
decimation: asciilifeform: actually it might be mildly interesting to know how they are 'serializing' the blocks
decimation: did the also implant parasite into bitcoind?
mod6: asciilifeform: re: ... the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests ... << yeah this is great!
decimation: asciilifeform: did you try the feed block thing
decimation: "If you calculate an offset between two separately allocated C memory objects (e.g. malloc'd regions or global or local variables) by pointer subtraction, can you make a usable pointer to the second by adding the offset to the address of the first?"
☟︎ decimation: asciilifeform: it seems like a clever script could stuff into bitcoind 'as is'
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 03:16:41; decimation: "If you calculate an offset between two separately allocated C memory objects (e.g. malloc'd regions or global or local variables) by pointer subtraction, can you make a usable pointer to the second by adding the offset to the address of the first?"
decimation: heh "Can you make a usable copy of a pointer by copying its representation bytes with code that indirectly computes the identity function on them, e.g. writing the pointer value to a file and then reading it back, and using compression or encryption on the way?"
decimation: "I've written code for a JIT that stores 64-bit virtual ptrs as their hardware based 48-bits. This is a valuable optimisation, even if it's not strictly OK. (anon)"
☟︎ decimation: good lord, how much software that people use every day is written like this?
decimation: "You can go much stronger than that. Many security mitigation techniques rely on being able to XOR a pointer with one or more values and recover the pointer later by again XORing with one or more possible different values, (whose total XOR is the same as the original set). (Richard Black)"
decimation: this has confused n00bs when you mention the 'von neumann' arch
decimation: they think 'harvard' is better with respect to your 'bedrock' complaints
decimation: at least it's concievable that you could point to the data and code ram chips
decimation: 'you need to support our implementation'
decimation: you can imagine how gcc writers would tire of that kind of bullshit
mats: jurassic world was better than expected
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 03:21:55; decimation: "I've written code for a JIT that stores 64-bit virtual ptrs as their hardware based 48-bits. This is a valuable optimisation, even if it's not strictly OK. (anon)"
decimation: heh I didn't realize that x86-64 kept page table
decimation: I thought i386 added even more segmentation
decimation: ^ also note intel was derping with itanic around then
assbot: Governor: Puerto Rico near 'death spiral' - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida ... (
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trinque: all that guy wants to do is drink hennesy and fuck bitches.
decimation: lolz as if puerto rico was anything other than a vassal of usg
decimation: my understanding is everyone who is worth a damn has already left
decimation: the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput
☟︎ mats: hm, TIL USG shuttered USN base in puerto rico in 2000s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 330 @ 0.00629999 = 2.079 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two
mats: asciilifeform: got an idea? a question in ##re i am also curious about answer to
BingoBoingo: <decimation> that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two << Puerto Rico is basically USG brown people practice range
mats: ive been studying asm for months and i still feel as lost as my first day
mats: like there's a superset of knowledge i'm missing
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 04:12:09; decimation: the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput
mod6 is still going on this thing.
mod6: getting close though
mod6: lotta stuff this month!
trinque: I can think of another honorarium the republic might keep herr krugman in for entertainment purposes.
trinque: I'm thinking a sort of dunking booth with better toys.
BingoBoingo: But this is just another quicker example of documenting the kicks
decimation: S&P 500 price/earnings ratio is looking pretty toppy...
trinque: decimation: currency crisis or gtfo
decimation: trinque: looks like the eu is trying to start one
trinque: so tired of waiting for the horrible missteps of that which was once styled republic to incur their cost
punkman: no, that's how "big in SV" works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00046059 = 26.8063 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: tv here shows greeks complaining that germans don't understand greece
mats: like a crack dealer doesn't understand a junkie
punkman: german citizens about as clueless as the greeks
decimation: germans have profited for years by loaning greeks eu dollars and then selling them shit to buy them back
mod6: Ok, just about done. And that's jsut about all for me tonight.
punkman: would you vote in a referendum?
punkman: think I'm gonna stick to my "no voting" policy
decimation: punkman: what if the referendum were for ending the popular vote?
mats: i would question reality if this came to pass
decimation: mats: to believe it wouldn't pass is to believe that the voter places his own interest above that of the group
decimation: which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group
☟︎ Vexual: i don't vote, iv'e got email
decimation: Vexual: compulsory voting is a contradiction. like compulsory wealth.
Vexual: indeed, noone must read my bullshit either
Vexual: poor fuck who tried to exit usa just got busted in my neck of the woods
Vexual: nah, but hes in custody and going home on an economy flight
decimation: heh "A police spokesman said the officers were investigating an unrelated matter and did not know who he was, but Mr Rodman thought the police had come to arrest him and gave himself up."
Vexual: perhaps he was broke and homesick
decimation: what's the point of 'escaping' to another country if you can't enjoy yourself
Vexual: i wonder if he left and coin behind?
decimation: go to queensland and search his hovel :)
Vexual: im in queensland, can u link hovel?
cazalla: Vexual, was prob a spy and his time was up
Vexual: lol, everything is illegal here, but you you must confess on a bicycle to get caught
decimation: they were probably looking for the bum that shit on the local picnic tables
decimation: cazalla: an american spy? why would usg bother?
cazalla: wonder how many seppos overstay their visa anyway
decimation: I doubt there's anything australia knows that they wouldn't happily give away in exchange for coin
cazalla: decimation, was being facetious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94000 @ 0.00046393 = 43.6094 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: decimation, which one? US has quite a few bases here now
decimation: I guess I was thinking of the new one near darwin
decimation: I think obama wanted to show china how serious he was back then
cazalla: one day hopefully can do some urbex at pinegap
decimation: lots of countries in the world have anti-base posters like this in local language, yet more bases seem to be the order
cazalla: nah, i'd be going on dirt bike tbh
Vexual: good luck getting it okayed as a saloon car
Vexual: cazalla might prefferent a z900 kawasaki, but they were for the baddies
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gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.79, Best ask: 267.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 267.93, 24 hour volume: 43306.98643878, 24 hour low: 249.43, 24 hour high: 267.9, 24 hour vwap: None
Vexual: lol vulves corvette is now worth less
decimation: why outfit your mad max cruiser with that kind of tank?
cazalla: who needs a servo Vexual when ya can carry a few tanks on a postie bike
decimation: meanwhile your balls gonna fall off after hour 22
Vexual: whats the range on a postie bike? 80km?
cazalla: durable too, i'll get through any aussie terrain
cazalla: i was gonna get one but got a zzr instead
Vexual: yeah cunts boat em to asia to continue the journey
Vexual: aweful beats that kwaka 250\
Vexual: its called a ninja now and its detuned
Vexual: sure its fast but the valves dont resond properly
punkman: cazalla, would qntra like an article on .gr capital controls?
cazalla: if you're familiar with the situation, sure
BingoBoingo: punkman: If you can get it done before UTC rolls over into July you could still sneak in on the June statement
shinohai: Surprising to me how long scams can stay afloat, and what people can build on top of them.
decimation: asciilifeform: heh. it's no secret the trouble they are all in, it's merely a matter of publically pretending otherwise - and getting the press to hop on board
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: i don't think that it's *unnecessary* or anything, i'm just curious as to why it needs explicit enabling.
ben_vulpes: curious why *you think* it needs explicit enabling.
ben_vulpes: "filein >> block;" << this overloaded operator still baffles me.
Jautenim: out-of-the-box auto.sh fails to install openssl on a cleanish x86-64 ubuntu 14.04
Jautenim: but dpb's fix for the pogo also werks
Jautenim: shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix
decimation: background: openssl docs fail to generate properly, so install_sw should be used instead
decimation: no I mean you are right, mod6/ben_vulpes should integrate that fix
mod6: nubs submitted a patch for that -- it'll be fixed in the next milestone for sure. thanks for the heads up Jautenim.
mod6: [ the relivant part here anyway is the alterations to auto.sh ]
Jautenim: yes. in fact i just s/make install/make install_sw on auto.sh
Jautenim: but this patch don't seem to avoid the offending makefile directive, does it?
Jautenim: from openssl-1.0.1g/Makefile -> install: all install_docs install_sw
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes well, the model t ain't no duesenberg if that's what you mean.
assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 23:47:53; ben_vulpes: ah they're probably deprecating some old api, pete_dushenski
mod6: Jautenim: sorry, I had it kinda mixed up. The patch link I posted is to resolve the issue where the libs and headers don't get copied over.
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski
☟︎☟︎ gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.43, Best ask: 267.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 267.49, 24 hour volume: 46254.35097666, 24 hour low: 252.79, 24 hour high: 268.1, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 14:25:50; asciilifeform: '...anyone who knows mathematics can see that the United States is on the verge of collapse because its debt has gone exponential. These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique
mod6: <+Jautenim> shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix << If you're in the WoT (looks like you are) feel free to submit a patch as you like.
pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "Cenovus Energy Inc (CVE.TO), Canada's second-largest independent oil producer, said on Tuesday it has agreed to sell its portfolio of oil and gas royalty properties to Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan for about C$3.3 billion ($2.66 billion)." << speaking of deals, a big one for canada.
pete_dushenski: cenovus is based in alberta and it quite clearly in the crosshairs of the new socialist government and its anti-business platform that -will- include increases in oil royalties
pete_dushenski: "Teachers' said the latest deal offers diversification benefits and a hedge against unexpected inflation." << lol! unexpected for who ?!
ben_vulpes: Jautenim: yeah, i ran into that one as well
ben_vulpes: btw - i've yet to get boost to compile and exit 0
pete_dushenski: "Heritage Royalty owns about 4.8 million acres of royalty interest and mineral fee title lands in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Royalty lands are privately held oil and gas properties that are not subject to the royalties that producers pay governments for operating on publicly owned lands." << ok that's actually a super interesting detail. so cenovus is offloading the land that's -exempt- from royalties w
ben_vulpes: aand pete, i'm talking about mr. musk's overpriced station wagon
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: the 's' is the sedan, the 'x' is the suv... is the 't' the little one that's in the pipeline ?
ben_vulpes: s/retarded/don'treallycareaboutmoderncarnamingconventions
ben_vulpes: "o hai i bought a thooper expensive babywaggon"
ben_vulpes: i've no idea how i got it into my head that it was called the model t.
pete_dushenski: they've exploded here this summer, from 0 last year to dozens this year
ben_vulpes: driven mostly by harried sunken-chested polo-shirt wearing dads
pete_dushenski: and parked in front of their post-post-modern duplexes with rooftop patios and pv sunshades
ben_vulpes: i have to imagine that's what they drive into town from.
pete_dushenski: lol i'm not the one saying tesla drivers are pussies, you are !
ben_vulpes: i'm just describing the car. can't really generalize about groups
ben_vulpes: you can't see it for the trees, but we have clients in a building across the river that are *far* higher on the bezzletrough than us
ben_vulpes: no no, staying in the current hobbit hole.
ben_vulpes: no sense in accelerating the hedonic treadmill any faster than is strictly necessary.
ben_vulpes: lady v did procure a 4ft tall giraffe recently, though
pete_dushenski: treadmill moves plenty quickly enough without much help.
ben_vulpes: no plastic baby cages in my house no ty
ben_vulpes: and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i dun think that a little plastic is the end of the world, not like we didn't grow up with it
pete_dushenski: sure, steel and wood carriages and cribs are better, but doesn't mean such things exist for less than $maxint
ben_vulpes: living well in NA is all about the art of judiciously applied delicately spun hydrocarbons
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell menahem lol at travis ! 1 btc for a lifetime membership to his tardsclub. as fucking if.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 15:11:06; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag?
ascii_field: and in general, when adding a peculiar and unfamiliar behaviour to bitcoin, it is good practice to place a red flip-cover around the button
ben_vulpes: and flip-cover for eatblock because state of running bitcoinator is mutated by its use, while the dumpblock does not mutate and so does not need a flag?
ben_vulpes: (and imagine my disappointment when you didn't name it shitblock!)
ascii_field: srsly my turds aren't 'gospel', publish corrections/repaintings/etc
Jautenim: should it barf something back at me? I'm not receiving any feedback either
mod6: ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com
☟︎ mod6: plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file
mod6: danielpbarron: yeah, i saw that. i thought that'd be enough. but maybe something else is up? anyway, you can send to me. I'll review, etc.
Jautenim: sure! i was puzzled too, thought that'd be enough
mod6: <+mod6> plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file << along with the patch itself i might add!
ascii_field: ' the NEC still wins over most portable computers of any time for the quality of its keyboard. This is a machine for typing on, and producing content, not for consuming content... Even now, nearly 30 years after production, it still works perfectly. The larger capacity modern rechargeable AA cells means that four of these will keep it running for weeks. Astonishing battery life compared with modern devices.'
☟︎ ascii_field: 'I plan to start using the machine again because its keyboard is superior to any other laptop that I've owned and it boots far faster than any other laptop that I've owned.'
trinque: neat. that thing's exactly what I've meant about a device which is only for editing buffers of text.
ascii_field: trinque: i've been looking for something that fits that description - while not being a piece of shit - for a decade
ascii_field: even bought a weird jp device, 'pomera dm20', once
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45080 @ 0.00045047 = 20.3072 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: now it gathers dust - keyboard has three or so keys that flip the thing into jp mode, and they 'get pressed' constantly (on account of how cramped the thing is)
ascii_field: and before anyone links to the barfalicious 'hemingwriter' thing - just don't. please.
ascii_field: FUCK 3d-printed faux typewriter case, screen one has to squint at, and 'cloud'
trinque: what a dumb pile of hipster wank
shinohai: @ mod6 so no more manual patch applications?
ascii_field: shinohai: that thing is intended only for eyeballs/study
mod6: huh? no, im laughing because when I swapped the doxygens around (LR, to TB) i nuked the file that showed the patches included.
mod6: and I can't find a backup
ascii_field: shinohai: in all cases, the canonical code is the original pedigreed and signed 0.5.3 and the sequence of signed patches which add up to a release
mod6: I did it like that because the list of patch names is far too long. makes it look kinda ridiculous in the header
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116000 @ 0.00045013 = 52.2151 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Stator on shittop sync'd to 200 kiloblocks
ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: presently, while i'm doing entirely other things, it it running pmap -XX <pid> after each eat
ascii_field: later this week (still gotta do my broadcast tonight...) will throw this into 'gnuplot'
ascii_field: (actual mass of these, without ~anything~ extra)
ascii_field: (if this wasn't clear, this is a node running without a net connection at all)
jurov: ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat
jurov: would be interesting to compare them
ascii_field: i mean, the blocks were in there to begin with
ascii_field: and i never imagined i was the first to ever dump blocks - i think just about everybody had some 3rd party script thing to do it with
ascii_field: but now one can single-step the sync, and remove just about all nondeterminism
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many times in the history of linux one has issued the command ;;
mircea_popescu is going to get top the logs just as soon as he's done hammering the seeder into shape
mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i would have inquired whether front facing fanny or rear facing fanny, but i was pressed for time sadly.
BingoBoingo: <jurov> ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat << As far as I'm aware the "bootstrap.dat" never got implemented in a way that worked beyond the first 2GB of blockchain on pre-v0.8 clients
BingoBoingo spent some time dicking around with it when did OpenBSD 0.7.2 -ish build
BingoBoingo: Bootstrap.dat did what it was supposed to on v0.8.6 though, didn
BingoBoingo: 't much speed up sync because verification is still CPU bound
BingoBoingo: I think garzick had a script somewhere I'll did
ascii_field: and i beg to differ that direct arse-to-mouth of blocks 'doesn't speed sync'
ascii_field: on account of not having the hours-long bastard block doldrums
BingoBoingo: Well, once I got into 2013 and months crawled into taking days per any speed up wasn't much noticable
BingoBoingo just be running horribru underpowered machines for this task
mircea_popescu: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbException' << teh sound of unhappy. i'll be doing shasums for the rest of the day by the looks of it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00046402 = 30.6253 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: at any rate, i posted checksums of what i personally got over the wire, earlier.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've been digging into all sorts of strange re this since 3 days ago, what's a bucket more.
mircea_popescu: ah, those don't help, obv every client makes its own blockchain set
BingoBoingo: Just BDB not necessarily canonical unless "detatched"
mircea_popescu: i have never seen blknnnn of the same size even, forget the same contents
ascii_field: so it is conceivable that yours barfed on an orphaned (in the original sense) block
ascii_field: for what it's worth, all the blocks i got from mircea_popescu are successfully eaten by my 0.5.4
☟︎ ascii_field: mircea_popescu: consider preserving the turd for dissection
mitzip: BingoBoingo: yes, but I haven't been active lately
mitzip: BingoBoingo: thanks I feel the same way :)
ascii_field: $ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_mp_strange/blk0001.dat
ascii_field: 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a
ascii_field: $ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_ok/blk0001.dat 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a
ascii_field: 'mp_strange' is the data set discussed earlier
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00046668 = 9.987 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: either mircea_popescu, or i, or both, is suffering from 'cosmic rays'
mircea_popescu: maybe this is half-deterministic somehow ? did you make them on the same build ?
trinque: While Google’s efforts to solve this problem are admirable, it’s still troubling that it happened at all. As Alciné wrote on Twitter, “I understand HOW this happens; the problem is moreso on the WHY.” << oh for fuck's sake
trinque: someday soon they're going to start calling this kind of shit something as stupid as "micro-terrorism"
trinque tries to come up with a more fitting euphemistic propaganda term
trinque: neh I like micro-terrorism... there it stays
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you have any other nodes of this kind, consider posting the hash
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17221 @ 0.00046918 = 8.0797 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 16:24:21; ben_vulpes: and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us
cazalla: and even if you don't buy it or try to limit it, well intentioned friends and family try to load you up with all manner of shit
assbot: Portland man arrested for violent tantrum after seeing Comcast worker in bedroom | OregonLive.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1U5wi8U )
cazalla: don't you ever touch a white man's modem
shinohai: Nah he was probably being defensive because he was afraid they would find his My Little Pony playset or something.
cazalla: he does look like an mlp fag eh
shinohai: I have only seen the Comcast guy 2 times in 5 years in this place I live.
trinque: shinohai: I noticed that as well
mats: found it just in time for my education
trinque: I tend to call that periscope UI
trinque: where you're looking through a tiny window at some scrollable thing
BingoBoingo: Anyone try running electrum-server yet against Foundation 0.5.3.1 or later build? Once stator on craptop syncs on craptop I plan on seeing if they get along
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.01227109 = 1.2271 BTC [-] {6}
CheckDavid: when I want to talk here I never manage to get voice lol
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I did but I failed :/
trinque: CheckDavid: pm someone voiced when that happens
shinohai: Heaven't tried in a while though. I was drunk.
assbot: CheckDavid is not registered in WoT.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Ah. If you try again let me know what they errors were like. Still prolly have a month or so before craptop finishes sync
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181614 @ 0.0004773 = 86.6844 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52186 @ 0.00048707 = 25.4182 BTC [+]
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I have been able to run it against termcoin, which I don't recommend as a real wallet.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Was recently gifted second laptop. Single core AMD 64bit atom-like processor. Testing stator 0.5.4 build, once sync'd will likely dick around with electrum server against a foundation build with aim of eventually setting up a dedi-box
shinohai: I have a dedi server for foundation use if we do get electrum running
BingoBoingo hoping I don't have to make a bunch of patches to the RPC for this to work
shinohai: The only issue I had was importing private keys, but I solved that.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 19:33:05; mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?"
trinque commits microaggression against the differently-hygiened
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mats: microterrorism, foo
cazalla: making up your own microaggression is nanoaggresion mats
cazalla: and anyway, people in this channel make gigaaggressions
mats: we'll leave it to twitter to decide wut is wut
shinohai: I'll bet r/bitcoin had that CNN feed up praying that it triggers mass Greek adoption.
punkman: Greece has barely even adopted credit cards
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45225 @ 0.00048728 = 22.0372 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: BingoBoingo: electrum did require patches even in 0.8
cazalla: that pic isn't really a fair representation of the problematic hambeasts
cazalla: needs more coloured hair, piercings, tats, triple chins and no dress sense
trinque: "That makes Bitcoin about 5,033 times more energy intensive, per transaction, than VISA" << what a crock of shit
trinque: you have to count every payment processor in the whole byzantine credit card system if you're going to play that game
trinque: ^ from BingoBoingo's motherboard article
decimation: ^ plus all the bureaucrats who work for visa/banks/usg to 'oversee' the system
decimation: and the care, feeding, coddling thereof
shinohai: That same tired argument has echoed from every supporter of PoS for as long as I can remember.