trinque: isn't this sort of like saying common lisp is impossible, after all, the machine only implements syslisp?
trinque: this being "the bedrock is shaping..."
hanbot: ah BingoBoingo, didn't catch your earlier piece. think mine needs a redundancy edit?
BingoBoingo: hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece
trinque: you know that Bin Laden guy really hit it outta the park.
BingoBoingo: The ashley madison thing is big, you wrote a better story. My quick piece was just to get something in as soon as possible considering our... uptime issues.
trinque: I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here.
hanbot: and wd on that front BingoBoingo!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14498 @ 0.00055177 = 7.9996 BTC [-]
hanbot: trinque what's that, ostrichprocess?
trinque: hanbot: some interaction between the subconscious effect of even having a vast american govt at all...
trinque: everyone here knows on some level they could kick the door in at any moment
trinque: the things people joke about show that
trinque: the attack created the atmosphere of "something must be done"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8302 @ 0.00055056 = 4.5707 BTC [-]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.
trinque: and the precariousness of baseless narcissism, being that it could be knocked over by reality at any moment
trinque: you have a situation where everything generates more fear, and so long as people believe the govts role is to remove anything feared, it'll proceed further in the same direction
trinque: I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on
trinque: all that to say we were hit right in the heel
trinque: there was no chance the whole thing wouldn't be caught by every camera in miles
trinque: the thing's indelliby there, forever
hanbot: and ofc, "nobody could have foreseen"
trinque: and since "this *doesn't* happen to america" and it can never be forgotten, we will pick at the wound until it kills us
trinque: that's just cause the food never makes it to the table
cazalla: sheeit, published my non-spell checked version
cazalla: BingoBoingo, why ya got all these links to such images?
hanbot: BingoBoingo isn't it...disadvantageous to be triggerable by something so...abundant? i bet people sensitive to anorexics have a much easier time
BingoBoingo: It is, but one has to keep the hateorade full somehow.
trinque: oh, I just go for a walk for that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.
trinque: next innovation is constructing both sides!
☟︎ trinque: what will they think of next
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 00:44:24; mircea_popescu: you seriously proposing the internet just goes away ?
phf: asciilifeform: well, that last burst is me netcat'ing you repeatedly
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Node reports a starting height of -1
phf: must be <--> this many hops away from fort meade to ride
phf: could be your hoster doesn't like bitcoind nodes
trinque: I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours"
BingoBoingo: Node I'm connecting with identifies as protocol version 99992
BingoBoingo: I remember you mentioning earlier as source of cheapboxes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00055933 = 17.7867 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: mod6: what does that "lasttry" indicate?
mod6: clock is < 1 minute off
trinque: mod6: what about his clock?
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441
☟︎ mod6: or at least have been all dayt.
mod6: my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394
mod6: that one has been crawling for days.
mod6: but still chugging.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95899 @ 0.00055828 = 53.5385 BTC [-]
mod6: this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.)
mod6: again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00056899 = 46.3727 BTC [+]
trinque: eh is python really better than perl?
trinque: perl python and ruby are all kissing cousins
mod6: well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years.
mod6: and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :}
mod6: so it'd be nice to eventually move this into something that other guys know how to do.
mod6: it's pretty cool tho 'eh?
BingoBoingo: It's a bit harder to make python write only like perl. very hard to find good sample ruby code because rails
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00055285 = 32.7287 BTC [-] {3}
decimation: asciilifeform: which 'rockchip' do you have? the imgur image is not clear
mod6: "assbot: I don't do bots, mod6." << lollerskates!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63832 @ 0.00056899 = 36.3198 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44068 @ 0.00056926 = 25.0861 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: interestingly your link is in the log but is completely missing from search
decimation: yeah I was aware of the stemming shit, but not that it completely misses things
decimation: ok it appears to be RK2928 if the kernel bootlog isn't lying
decimation: yeah but in this case I was looking at all results for from:asciilifeform
decimation: interestingly the chat took place very near the daily rollover
assbot: 70433 results for 'from:asciilifeform' - #bitcoin-assets search
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82513 @ 0.00054469 = 44.944 BTC [-] {6}
decimation: "And 2916 RK2928 chip output through internal IO_SWITCH debug serial and OTG interfaces on the same set of IO, RK2926 for the first 6465 pin, RK2928 to V8 W8 pins. The two serial ports for the default mode, when detecting VBUS signal will switch to USB_DEVICE mode, detects the ID port is low will automatically
decimation: Automatically switches to USB_HOST mode. Debugging serial connection is shown below, OTG_DP pick serial small board RXD, OTG_DN pick serial small board
decimation: TXD, master and serial small plate connected to ground, do not connect the power supply pins."
hanbot: so i'm attempting reference implementation install for the first time and have a boatload of errors at ./auto.sh , not sure where to begin. if anyone has the time & patience for my noobery, please ding me.
decimation: there's some stuff about DDR, but no full datasheet for that one
hanbot: well hopefully if logged it can be pointed to other folks later if needed
hanbot: what'd be useful, config.log dump?
mod6: sure, use `script` to start a logging facility just type 'exit' when done and it'll dump out a 'typscript' file in the local dir.
decimation: it did on mine but only after modification (realpath for one)
mod6: it was designed to work on deb6, others had no problems. but *shrug*. what system are you using hanbot?
decimation: but it's several patches behind anyway, would try to use stator
hanbot: interesting. well lessee. yeah, installed realpath.
mod6: really, the main question at this point should be: do you wanna run the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE or are you looking to help test with the latest (pre)v0.5.4 patches?
hanbot: i'm hoping to build stator manually. release + patches & antecedents mentioned in stator post.
mod6: asciilifeform: probably 'whole orchestra'
BingoBoingo: Is anyone other than ben_vulpes interested in my 0.7-ish turdball?
hanbot: well my variety speak is weak here lol.
trinque: iirc stator didn't have a -e, might want that
trinque: I added it to mine to deal with blown up steps when fiddling with gcov and libressl
trinque: or set -e I think is equivalent
trinque: bails out at the first exit nonzero
BingoBoingo: Only ever built from makefile generated from bitcoin-qt.pro as even I have limited use cases for this
hanbot: asciilifeform i sketched the patch tree like so:
hanbot: okay got the planned patch spaghetti untangled, ty asciilifeform. mod6 volunteered to let me torture him tomorrow with release issues. i'll report on how all this goes.
Vexual: 6-year box still noncom ascii?
Vexual: did you check the clock?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67700 @ 0.00054115 = 36.6359 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo still wonders where the small machines are with ECC and 2+ sata II ports
Vexual: why u hate on bigger machines?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Bigger machine harder to carry across border in ass
Vexual: aslo ascii: battery powered iron??
BingoBoingo: miracast seems to have lots of potential as NuisanceNet
Vexual: im asounded that you balcony doesnt have a proper station
BingoBoingo: Similar here, except for a brief window in 2012 when it was 110+F and California like drought
phf: so the end result of incitatus going online was an exercise in sending a version packet to a node to elicit some sort of response
phf: so if you do that whole socket-connect, write-command, and then (read-byte (usocket:socket-stream *sock*)) you should be getting bytes back, because the node is primed to talk to you
phf: not surprisingly incitatus doesn't respond
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53068 @ 0.00056191 = 29.8194 BTC [+]
phf: so something /is/ coming through? that's trully odd
BingoBoingo likes how corenetworks has had a teaser colo page forever and done nothing to that end.
BingoBoingo wonders why not can a shitbox and let me pay to put my machien in that space
BingoBoingo: Gat a shiva hand to write it up? You spotted it so you can call dibs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00054071 = 15.4102 BTC [-]
Vexual: ^not suicide, theres no kids helpline link
mod6: hanbot: so, this might help you, it's worth a read through anyway -- it's a script that I created to pull down v0.5.3.1-RELEASE, and then add ascii's recent patches up through verifyall [ read the script for all that are applied ]:
http://dpaste.com/23VKWD8.txt mod6: If you run that script in a directory say ~/sandbox then you can `cd bitcoin-v0_5_3_1` `mkdir -p ourlibs distfiles` - then pull down the boost/bdb/openssl and drop them in distfiles. then finally drop in stator.sh into the ~/sandbox/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE dir and kick it off. that should do the trick.
mod6: I've probably done a dozen builds this way in the last 2 weeks.
mod6: Anyway, yeah, we can go through it tomorrow. I've also got some curl commands to pull down the distfiles:
mod6: those three command should be run from ~/sandbox/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1
BingoBoingo: Anyone running OpenBSD and radeon graphics. 5.7 seems to actually improve quite a bit over 5.6 in this front.
mod6: Anyone else looking to build the same thing by hand (as opposed to just using stator as is) can use this above process ^^ for now.
mod6: At some point here we'll have a pre-patched source bundle that will be like a release candidate. I'm workin on it :]
trinque: mod6: thanks for the script
trinque: great way for us casuals to keep up with what's going on
mod6: oh, i noticed a mistake above in my text, there is no such dir as 'bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE', it's simply 'bitcoin-v0_5_3_1'. hope that doesn't trip anyone up too badly.
phf: asciilifeform: can now receive messages back
phf: #S(MESSAGE-MESSAGE :START-STRING #(249 190 180 217) :COMMAND-NAME "version" :PAYLOAD-SIZE 85 :CHECKSUM #(250 5 185 54)) came from the node and the checksum verifies
phf: i wonder how much of bitcoind can i reimplement by morning..
trinque: haha! well, now you're on record phf
trinque: hear that everyone? common lisp bitcoind is on the way
phf: comes with MOST-POSITIVE-FIXNUM blocksize
phf: 195.211.154.159:8333 returns by way of version message: #S(VERSION-MESSAGE :VERSION 99999 :SERVICES 1 :TIMESTAMP 1437544122 :ADDR_RECV-SERVICES 1 :ADDR_RECV-IP-ADDRESS #(0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 255 255 71 230 106 172) :ADDR_RECV-PORT 46582 :ADDR_TRANS-SERVICES 1 :ADDR_TRANS-IP-ADDRESS #(0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 255 255 195 211 154 159) :ADDR_TRANS-PORT 36128 :NONCE 9412825019978737752 :USER_AGENT "" :START_HEIGHT 366396)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87400 @ 0.00055435 = 48.4502 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: another funny thing i saw, someone designed the rax increasers to walk across a university lawn thats taboo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116450 @ 0.00056712 = 66.0411 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151450 @ 0.00054015 = 81.8057 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 16:27:25; mircea_popescu: "2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd.
punkman: they'd probably run out of paper in a day or two
BingoBoingo: SamouraiWallet: How are you handling the forklets?
Vexual: punkmn, it's illegal to mention polymer notes and who prints them here
Vexual: they do smell nice tho
Vexual: the media was well and truly muted when corruption was suggested
punkman: did they outsource the printing?
Vexual: first with waterproof notes
punkman: well cotton doesn't really dissolve in water anyway
punkman: I wonder if they chose the smell
Vexual: i think they must have
Vexual: if you can make your money smell like thw world favourite lady perfume for years on end, its no accident
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00056714 = 12.789 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47250 @ 0.00056714 = 26.7974 BTC [+]
punkman: "must be this white to comment"
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 20:45:04; BingoBoingo: <trinque> anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? << LibreSSL 2.0 fully synced in wild, LibreSSL 2.1 Kept up as of this morning will probably try a full sync eventually
punkman: Vexual: who's the mustache?
BingoBoingo: punkman: I only have foundation builds running on that "Mint" ubuntu like at the moment
Vexual: dunno, cant read the sig
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00056126 = 8.7276 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00056126 = 15.7433 BTC [-]
liquidassets: ;;later tell danielpbarron What historically has a pound of flesh equal? Are there any scriptural equivalency tables you can direct me to?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71200 @ 0.00056717 = 40.3825 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 20:45:04; BingoBoingo: <trinque> anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? << LibreSSL 2.0 fully synced in wild, LibreSSL 2.1 Kept up as of this morning will probably try a full sync eventually
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 18:24:00; ben_vulpes: Story has it that he returned to Hazelton, once, after a trip up the Telegraph Trail, and there he found out that he had missed the farthest cabin of all, over two hundred miles away, and there were two men up there left without supplies for the winter. Either the Government had not made the tale of the cabins clear or C. B. himself had miscalculated. However that may have been, the plain fact remained t
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136550 @ 0.00055775 = 76.1608 BTC [-]
trinque: static 0.5.4-beta libressl node is up to about 100k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202758 @ 0.00057985 = 117.5692 BTC [+] {8}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62545 @ 0.00059723 = 37.3538 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 186894 @ 0.00054126 = 101.1582 BTC [-] {5}
liquidassets: ben_vulpes submission for the Trilema GPG Contract short-story contest?
liquidassets: For context, I’m working on opening a retail business in California and I’m kicking ideas around for the concept behind it. I’m thinking of calling it Numéraire Goods. Numeraire good being an economic concept meaning a base good that functions as money in which all other tradable item’s prices are expressed.
☟︎ liquidassets: So this idea of a pound of flesh being equivalent to a signed contract…I like it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00053756 = 19.7016 BTC [-] {4}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00054782 = 25.5284 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92950 @ 0.00054949 = 51.0751 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00052643 = 30.5329 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 215750 @ 0.00055356 = 119.4306 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53100 @ 0.00055568 = 29.5066 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 00:35:20; trinque: next innovation is constructing both sides!
mircea_popescu: what, you mean like people pretending to be judges pretending to listen to people who are pretending to be das pretending to be prosecuting people who are pretending to be breaking the law ? the first in the hopes of selling this into a "political career", the latter in the hopes of selling this into a "career in showbiz" ?
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 00:40:14; asciilifeform: there can be ~NO~ fucking question of misconfiguration
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 00:54:28; asciilifeform: the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2014 14:52:26; mircea_popescu: the whole thing is like 500 sites, not even 1k
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 11:39:59; mircea_popescu: amazon instance -> cloudflare -> internet. all via PKI.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 03:07:07; asciilifeform: ^ posted here because this fragment is typical
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 10:46:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol what's this, the russiarchist's cookbook ?
mircea_popescu: yes but what's that do. i said the same at the time, it was like...mmmkay well... it dun work./
mircea_popescu: "maybe it's the router". "no, because isp has been sane" "well..."
mircea_popescu: read the logs at that time, they stand symbolic of this problem. how the fuck is one to prove the internet is broken X way when iot's consistently broken so many ways from sunday.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 03:44:37; asciilifeform: the whole point of the way the patches were written.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "but maybe it's not really from ww2, and ms doolittle's poodle shat it out"
mircea_popescu: "yeah, there is. like how the fuck you didn't abord in the third week like every other case of lethal trisomy"
mircea_popescu: (as a boy, /me used to play around a very large unexploded bomb. the crew had taken out the fuse and left it in place, by the 60s the rains had washed it out thoroughly, by the 80s it was a mostly rusted hunk of metal)
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how it got there. conceivably, dropped during the war
mircea_popescu: upon review, b29 was introduced too late to have been related. romania was out by 1944
mircea_popescu: nah, us bombed romania plenty in the early 40s. major oil supplier for teh third reich.
mircea_popescu: it was... i think it must have been about a ton or some shit. it was huge.
mircea_popescu: "After Carlos, a 12-year-old whose father has died in the Spanish Civil War, arrives at an ominous boy's orphanage he discovers the school is haunted and has many dark secrets that he must uncover."
mircea_popescu: re that phoronix thing : isn't it a sad state of affairs when the year is 2015 and yet the best way some computer expert has to convey his problems to others is BY TAKING A PHUCKING CELLPHONE SHOT OF THE SCREEN ?
mircea_popescu: congrats, phoronix, you're now that blonde airhead we like to fuck ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53408 @ 0.00054624 = 29.1736 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 164742 @ 0.00053325 = 87.8487 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 04:37:29; asciilifeform: between this and the block parser, we have maybe a quarter of a cl implementation of bitcoin here...
mircea_popescu: "There was "no evidence of foul play or suicide," police in Gainesville said via Twitter."
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how the us coroners work these days. if a 28 yo man is found dead at home, the traditional way is to require evidence of natural death
mircea_popescu: not to derp about how there's no proof of "foul play or suicide".
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, it'll be done. sourceforge is down, and that's where crystalspace's repository is hosted. it's been down for couple of days now for all hosted projects
mircea_popescu: i had no fucking idea this is even a thing, but given that we link against a specified version anyway, there's really no reason to even use sourceforge.
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a copy, i was hoping to have an svn repo history that i can work with. but a b-a authorative location can be used for build guides
mircea_popescu: i had no idea the supply chain is THAT vulnerable, thanks god i asked questions.
phf: right now i think every guide has a different recommendation for what to use. some do svn co on specific revision, some pull snapshot from svn, some pull snapshot from elsewhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall stoya's piece i linked some time ago where she decries a very similar process happening to porn.
mircea_popescu: like it or not, my boys = coders / girls = camwhores thing is closer to the reality of the matter than any hopes dreams or aspirations
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 02:54:10; asciilifeform: 'socket no message in first 60 seconds, 0 1'
mircea_popescu: but i mean this is by the fucking book, where the hell was it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39434 @ 0.00055756 = 21.9868 BTC [+]
assbot: SourceForge grabs GIMP for Windows’ account, wraps installer in bundle-pushing adware [Updated] | Ars Technica ... (
http://bit.ly/1JxNNWY )
mircea_popescu: "According to a 2011 feature in New York, a man named Fabian Thylmann bought a company named Mansef in 2010 to mash their tube sites and other properties together to form a new company called Manwin."
mircea_popescu: buy up all this cheap crud (software, pornware) by the kg, "monetize" it.
mircea_popescu: why exactly this doesn't pop up in the search tho, is an open question
mircea_popescu: anwyay. instructive read for the bois interested in their "profession", its place in the world, future etc. heck, might even help understand girls.
mircea_popescu: not even sure this actually needs any fixing providing they work
phf: those svn.code.sf.net are down
mircea_popescu: Current Team (1) Kevin Studer Marketing Manager ; Slashdot Media ("leader in professional tech communities") Sep 1, 2012 -$20M (terms undisclosed)
mircea_popescu: imagine! slashdot media worth 20mn. pity they didn;'t have a watsapp slapped on.
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 05:55:44; phf: 195.211.154.159:8333 returns by way of version message: #S(VERSION-MESSAGE :VERSION 99999 :SERVICES 1 :TIMESTAMP 1437544122 :ADDR_RECV-SERVICES 1 :ADDR_RECV-IP-ADDRESS #(0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 255 255 71 230 106 172) :ADDR_RECV-PORT 46582 :ADDR_TRANS-SERVICES 1 :ADDR_TRANS-IP-ADDRESS #(0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 255 255 195 211 154 159) :ADDR_TRANS-PORT 36128 :NONCE 9412825019978737752 :USER_AGENT "" :START_HEIGHT 36639
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85900 @ 0.00056509 = 48.5412 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps some users will implement it in a harmless and beneficial way, such as creating a safe space for women. But it’s just as likely that, in a few years, Googling for a snippet of this code yields search results that are the equivalent of a who’s who of racist and misogynist sites."
phf: mircea_popescu: it was for common lispers in the crowd
mircea_popescu: fucktards. "perhaps this racist thing could be used to disadvantage the races i happen to hate, which i call positive. but as the race i happen to hate happens to also be objectively superior to the other races, it will likely play out the other way. OH NOES!"
mircea_popescu: how about stop fucking being racist already, if racism bothers you so much. jeez.
mircea_popescu: "i hold an unsubstantiable, borderline pathological belief that the white race is better than all others. i spend my time trying to convince everyone to pick on white people by calling them racist if they do not". the whole libertard agenda on "race" as they understand it.
mircea_popescu: just how self parodic can the "human rights" twerps get ?
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 10:14:26; liquidassets: For context, I’m working on opening a retail business in California and I’m kicking ideas around for the concept behind it. I’m thinking of calling it Numéraire Goods. Numeraire good being an economic concept meaning a base good that functions as money in which all other tradable item’s prices are expressed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by the mid 2000s anyone with half a clue had long left porn. the remaining mouthbreathers were kind-of fun to watch, which is why gfy was such a success with people in the know.
mircea_popescu: actually it's probably ready for a revival, if people like stoya, kim kardashian and whoever else of the new slut generation can be arsed.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: cage au folles / moulin rouge. six story building consisting of an orgy + chapters in each campus ?
mircea_popescu: just as long as it makes everyone livid, it's got a shot.
mircea_popescu: sexual mercantilism is definitely going to come back in a major way, seeing how a) it's fundamental to black culture (as opposed to muslim culture) which is a major cultural war raging right now that white dudes know jack about ; b) there is no redeeming value to males atm outside of access to resources.
mircea_popescu: no strength no knowledge no will no nothing. so they're gonna be paying.
mircea_popescu: the african view on women, somewhat seen in things like "bros before hos" is that they are a numerary commodity. the muslim view on women, somewhat visible in burkas et all, is that they are a funciary commodity. to use the terminology suggested by our young friend with a california shop to be.
mircea_popescu: not exactly. no muslim would try to provide his social proof by lining up a bunch of women behind him.
mircea_popescu: which is why young men are treated that certain way in islam. gotta have a numerary commodity, and money can't be it.
mircea_popescu: whereas muslims, contrary to the bum job they're getting, are actually quite consumately decadent.
mircea_popescu: anyway. a funciary commodity, ie like land in medieval europe, is the good that makes all other goods.
mircea_popescu: a numerary commodity, ie money in jewish europe, is the good that measures all other goods.
mircea_popescu: there are numerous points where these orthogonal concerns come into objective conflict, which is always resolved culturally.
mircea_popescu: wherein hitting an idiot over the head repeatedly is patently a cultural process.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is kinda why putin is so amusing to me personally. he's basically trying to preach a jewish sort of islam to russians!
mircea_popescu: "oh but look how successful it made me! i can do 50 pushups and eat a bear!" "mmmmkay...."
mircea_popescu: anyway. there are distinction. the ru prison theme is "vodka and women / look what they reduce us to". not exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: a lot more chtonic, the entire "the pink hole's the hole the night comes through" sorta thing.
mod6: So in addition to lastnight's script I posted [ pulls down ascii's latest patches (up through -verifyall) and applies them to v0.5.3.1 ], I've got an updated one that i've just tested & worked for me on x86-64 gentoo w/glibc:
http://dpaste.com/2F68T3F.txt mod6: This one will do the same as the one before, except this will create the dirs, pull the 3rd party packages, and build "stator" directly though this script. Please read the script. `realpath`, `gnupg` and `curl` are required.
liquidassets: mircea_popescu this cultural war where women are thought to be numerar or funciara is this to say a cultural war where one side is trade for trades sake (pecunia non olet) and the other side is more like fuck your money death before dishonor! Either way with men being the agent either trading women or claiming them as their own as in free hold absolutely.
liquidassets: is a funciary commodity something you hold as a free hold absolute as you would property?
liquidassets: is this the distinction between numerar which is about being fungible and easily traded?
mircea_popescu: in other words : forget whether you own it or don't own it. the cogent question is, do you want it ?
shinohai: nice going mod6 on the gentoo build
mod6: i tried it on gentoo, but should build on other x86-64 linux distro's i'd think.
liquidassets: property only entered into it when I tried looking up meaning to funciary commodity. Yes, the "do you want it?" seems to be the question. Thanks MP always a pleasure
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mod6: Doesn't make that much of a difference. I'm working on a patched bundle now anyway.
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mircea_popescu: liquidassets funciary comes from fonsier, "issu de l'ancien français fonds". it's just another way to say "fundamental" (same root these two)
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assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 01:50:46; asciilifeform: decimation: 'telco 214' is the owner of a single ip which houses, as far as i can tell, at least 2% of current net hash.
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assbot: Logged on 22-07-2015 10:13:11; liquidassets: danielpbarron: Actually this story works really well
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ascii_field: the original was, iirc, used to sign winblowz pgp updates
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ascii_field: anybody who knows with what to eat a pcap.
nubbins`: my old fencing instructor fell victim to a knife attack in california a couple days ago o.O
assbot: St. John's prof in serious condition after attack in California that left 2 dead - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... (
http://bit.ly/1HJC5ul )
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mod6: i'm looking at it now...
ascii_field: nubbins`: reads, i must confess, quite like those 'eaten by friend's dog' reports
ascii_field: 'mr woodchipper was always such a friendly animal'
mod6: did you ever restart nsl?
mod6: archive.today appears 52681 times
hanbot: at too much gruntwork iyo?
trinque: oh btw, libressl build got stuck
mod6: hanbot: ok so to complete your mission. you'll need a x86-64 / glibc linux environment - gentoo is great, others ok probably too.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell aquentin simmer the fuck down and learn how to use the tools.
trinque: my gentoo would not build, so I used the VM
mod6: trinque: what do you mean that gentoo wouldn't build? like OS itself from our guide? or you couldnt build stator on there?
trinque: didn't want to bother with why, so I built in the VM then copied the binary out
mod6: stick them in a directory like `sandbox`
mod6: once pulled down do this `sha1sum stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz stator_72424e6da0f81aea5ab09165c377fd8b7418983f.tar.gz.sig` and ensure that the output hashes match what's embedded in the file name.
mod6: run this to pull ascii's key: `gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0xB98228A001ABFFC7`
mod6: then `mv stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz stator.tar.gz` and `mv stator_72424e6da0f81aea5ab09165c377fd8b7418983f.tar.gz.sig stator.tar.gz.sig`
mod6: (if you don't do that last step, you can not verify the sig)
mod6: `gpg --verify stator.tar.gz.sig`
mod6: ok thx trinque, one sec.
mod6: cd stator/distfiles
mod6: and run these to pull down OpenSSL/BDB/Boost:
mircea_popescu: hanbot once delving into it, this proves to be anything but straightforward i surmise ?
mod6: ok. so the stator tarball contains all of the relivant packages. I think by linking you to all of his patches are applied therein.
mod6: err s/packages/patches
hanbot: mircea_popescu well in my technically handicapped judgement, which may or may not be a viewpoint worth considering
mod6: that was poorly worded. i wouldn't bother trying to go through that list of emails unless what you want to do is this: download & extract v0.5.3.1-RELEASE and go through every email, one by one, and patch by hand.
trinque: could just read all the patches in that script you did
mod6: which is totally doable. there are like ~12 patches up through -verify all
hanbot: mod6 that's exactly what i want to do. after all, the mailing list is the reference point, no?
mircea_popescu: mod6 well look, it's not a meaningless problem. "what's the reader supposed to do". going through the list and following the tree seems sensible.
hanbot: (not every single patch on the mailing list, just the 8 needed for stator)
mod6: it is a reference point. the good news is, most of the patches that depend on other patches are linked backwards in the emails (by ascii) and have notes that say "depended upon by <a href=..."
mod6: but there are a lot of other patches in there that are not a part of that line or "branch" perhaps?
mircea_popescu: it's like the ultimate reference point. all ulterior repackaging may add convenience, but can't contradict it, basically.
hanbot: mod6 yep, i doublechecked asciilifeform's list as linked above, complete & correctly ordered
mod6: so a lot to look out for... certainly not for the faint of heart. you really hvae to keep up in here and on the list to realize what's going on.
mod6: at least ... lol, i do.
hanbot: for sure. gotta start sometime :)
mod6: What you want to do is to start with v0.5.3.1 and go through his messages that he linked and patch 'em in one at a time after verifying the hashes and the sigs.
ascii_field: hanbot did ask for the whole orchestra, ~manually~
ascii_field: what other answer could i give, than 'go to ml...'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the way he does his patches with the referneces is pretty smart.
trinque: that reminds me to turn off the tls requirement on my mailserver
trinque prepares postfix's ass for a blastin
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that's kinda the only way to do a 'muscle-powered version control sys'
ascii_field: gotta specify antecedents or reader is sol
hanbot: yep, i have the 'what to do' sketched out. atm i'm stuck on the v0.5.3.1 and the errors ./auto.sh threw out. typescript sez:
http://dpaste.com/2MNJ748 trinque: there's a "build-essential" package that grabs a lot of useful compiler stuff
mod6: you wanna do this for sure anyway ^^ but maybe wait to build until you've patched?
mircea_popescu: wtf is a box without c compiler anyway i want to kn ow.
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ascii_field: 88.198.6.235:8333 << belongs to anyone here ?
ascii_field: plenty of 60001 folks bringing up new nodez ?
hanbot: "The latest Tweets from Quentin Amalou (@aquentin). Doctorant en sciences humaines et sociales à @UnivAvignon. Sociologie du cinema et de la musique." ftw.
☟︎ hanbot: meanwhile glibc-static looks unbuntu-friendly, will report back
hanbot: Making Bitcoin Exchanges Truly Transparent [confidential] << lol
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how many years does it take ffs. << I like ffs, just works
BingoBoingo: For posterity the case of the prosecutor who declines to files charges against Clerk Cook, a self professed libertarian who likes to use police violence as a political weapon
https://archive.is/ChrKw pete_dushenski: "The Speed Week races that draw hundreds of racing teams from around the world to Utah's famous salt flats were canceled for the second consecutive year because of wet conditions." << moar climate change eh
phf: connected to incitatus few minutes ago, got verack, version and handful inv's. now it's timeouting again
pete_dushenski: ^realised after i shoulda referenced hanbot's article too. alas !
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: That's what Editors are for
BingoBoingo: "Hot Death" sounds cool, very action movie
pete_dushenski: sounds like vehicle was left out in the sun with the windows rolled up
pete_dushenski: anyways, such are the perils of turning cars into computers.
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trinque: so, we're going to try Brennan for the murder of Michael Hastings now, right?
trinque: that lurch-looking one that heads up the KG...er... CIA
trinque: iirc there's ample evidence to suggest Hastings was working on a story on him when he went for a long drive on a short road
trinque: BingoBoingo: oddly, his wife said she'd release what he had 'soon' in interviews after his death
assbot: Michael Hastings Was Investigating John Brennan's Role in Press Crackdown Before His Death - Hit & Run : Reason.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1IeMJpV )
trinque: chick was really oddly smiley in interviews
trinque: notably worked for the national security council, that group of bureaucrats that decides which pakistani kids are going to die today by robotic death from above
trinque: Due to Hastings ongoing investigations of CIA chief John Brennan and previous critical investigations of other well known figures, there was speculation of foul play.[9] Jordan played a role in clearing up speculations about her husband's death as being nothing more than a "tragic accident".
trinque: oh you cleared it up, Elise?
trinque: yeah, everything's crystal clear.
trinque: I tend to think there's something to that.
BingoBoingo: I merely asked which Brennan hoping that you might have a connection between the Hastings murder and St. Clair County State's Attourney Brennan Kelly who has declined to prosecute fake Libertarian Dallas Cook for his felony.
BingoBoingo: Just standard county bumpkin hypocrisy. Keep my misdemeanor case in limbo because they lack evidence while giving some village clerk dude a pussy pass for a politically motivated felony committed with malice.
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funkenstein_: re: hastings, uconnect: "boston brakes" is the term used in reportage by veteranstoday and others
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pete_dushenski: popular most recently with nazis and southern gentlemen
pete_dushenski: 'tis the true mark of a professional : self-assessment
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mod6: looks like you made it 1500 blocks before you started seeing the nonstandard txin
mod6: ok so those happen a bit... then you hit block 124`275 and then fail to verify a tx in block 124`276 to no avail
mod6: this tx: fb0a1d8d34fa5537e461ac384bac761125e1bfa7fec286fa72511240fa66864d
mod6: nope. you're wedged.
trinque: I'll investigate further and verify whether it's libressl
trinque: BingoBoingo: which version of libressl were you successful using, and was that with an existing chain or one started from scratch?
mod6: so for the record, this is a "VerifySignature" failure, similar to that seen in February with 168`001
☟︎ gernika: mod6 interesting that I ran into that on OpenBSD once, but got around it on a second try, not using libressl.
trinque: mod6: so this may be an example of relying on an openssl bug?
BingoBoingo: trinque: I did 2.0 from scratch and right now 2.1 is working on an existing chain
BingoBoingo: Ah, I'm not running -current and have no ideas what changes it might have
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mod6: gernika: hmm, remember what openssl version & block number? was it our Reference Implementation? feel free to post a log like trinque did next time.
mod6: In other news, I have 6 automated tests. This is pretty neat.
punkman: well the github link's mine
trinque: mistyped my own and was bemused at the elephant
gribble: RagnarDanneskjol was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 4 days, 11 hours, 53 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <RagnarDanneskjol> trinque - i am occasionally using the nick for continued development on punks ver. if anyone here's partial to the name I can pass it over. Wow that xm42
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trinque: neat, looks to be one you can get used for peanuts on amazon
punkman: finished the new Fargo series, was pretty good
pete_dushenski: weird that RagnarDanneskjol linked to the nakamoto knock-off of mp's gpg contracts article instead of teh original
cazalla: pete_dushenski, ha thanks, any idea if boy or girl yet?
pete_dushenski: saves me from pumping out 5 girls or something just to get that one name-bearer !
cazalla: i am grateful my first was a boy, hoping the next will be too
cazalla: for some reason i thought you were a bachelor
trinque: pete_dushenski: congrats and best wishes on fatherhood.
gernika: mod6 stator, openssl-1.0.1g.
pete_dushenski: trinque i'm already practising the not sleeping lifestyle
trinque: yep, probably going to need that skill
trinque: though I'm told I mostly slept like a rock
hanbot: does anyone have or know where i can get a glibc-static deb package?
hanbot: mazel tov pete_dushenski
trinque: hanbot: glibc should already be on there; it is the C standard library most commonly in use on linux
trinque: "static" would be in reference to how your bitcoind is built against it and other libraries
trinque: that said I could be wrong, and perhaps the files required to statically link are in a separate package
trinque: apt-cache search <package name fragment> is useful for finding packages
trinque: I want to say it's called libc6 on debian, and I don't see a separate static pkg