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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: lastly, http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt )
decimation: asciilifeform: lol no login
asciilifeform: it's a serial port
asciilifeform: thing inside is an extremely cut-down linux
asciilifeform: (big fat surprise, it has to live in that 8MB eeprom)
phf: heh, qijialiang@CVN-SERVER
asciilifeform: the last time i plugged the thing into a display, i configured it to sit down on a wireless lan
asciilifeform: so it can access the net, yes
gabriel_laddel: "there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all " << hahaha
asciilifeform: no telnet server though, so it might have to get new rom (and flasher) via 'xmodem' or the like
asciilifeform: this is probably the smallest - masswise and volumewise - linux box that i've ever owned
asciilifeform: 30 grams or so
BingoBoingo: !b 2 ✂︎
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RHSK1S.txt )
gabriel_laddel: IMHO, hackathons are at their core a good thing - all implementations thus far have been terrible.
gabriel_laddel: "play with computers & new friends"
gabriel_laddel: yay
trinque: sure, throw competent people into a room, give 'em toys, sounds great
asciilifeform: 'eat fine dinner and fuck AT THE SAME TIME !'
trinque: lol
asciilifeform: not everything wants to happen at same time
mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
mircea_popescu: kthen
mats: mircea_popescu: how long do you plan to keep the legal research project open?
mircea_popescu: mats well until completion.
mircea_popescu: for sure can't close it with all the work you put into it.
phf: gabriel_laddel: original meaning is "remote team briefly works face to face". i think hackathons without shared context and common goal are fundamentally misguided
mircea_popescu: mats ftr, we're here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-05-2015#1132541 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:32:27; mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66
mircea_popescu: just in case you missed that.
mircea_popescu: phf not so different from any other hot topic tshirt.
phf: nothing new
asciilifeform: anybody else here has 'miracast' device ?
asciilifeform: (or any of the 1,001 clones)
gabriel_laddel: phf: Sure, as "fundamentally misguided" as any other meetup for young people.
gabriel_laddel: phf: but whatever, I'm not against chess club
gabriel_laddel: well, actually I'm against chess club
gabriel_laddel: math club then
asciilifeform: chess isn't trying to build infrastructure
asciilifeform: or teach surgery
asciilifeform: to paraphrase naggum, yes, i am against surgery club for kidz
asciilifeform: (or perhaps i am enthusiastically for it, but only because misanthropy)
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel sure, but there's meetup of young people ie team + cheerleaders on the bus back from game away ; and then there's the meetup of young people ie, jay explains to preteens what the clit is.
mircea_popescu: he's young too. mentally.
gabriel_laddel: I was never party to either of those, so idk
mircea_popescu: why are you against chess club ?
gabriel_laddel: chess has been solved
mircea_popescu: fucking, idem.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club" trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media" that the latest fad among teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one to be someone!"
asciilifeform: iirc there is abortion porn
mircea_popescu: "the latest dangerous fad to sweep our nation's junior high scene since that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere."
asciilifeform: (definitely there was a few storiez on usenet/asstr)
asciilifeform: jekem!
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: global derping!
trinque: my (former) buddy in middle school tried to smoke the banana peels
asciilifeform: i learned of the jekem crap from uncle al, incidentally
mircea_popescu: i think the banana peels thing was a different one.
asciilifeform: those were in the 'anarchist cookbook'
asciilifeform: along with 1,001 other frauds
trinque: yeah, I think that's where he got it
trinque: kid was scared to smoke weed, though
trinque: wtf?
asciilifeform: woah did gavin trip over his mains cable or what?
asciilifeform: where is the tx spam ?!
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> chess has been solved << not quite
mircea_popescu: mains ?CABLE ?
mircea_popescu: i fear to think of your living arrangements!
asciilifeform does not have this problem
asciilifeform: has proper ducts, like adults, now
cazalla: trinque, don't forget nutmeg!
mircea_popescu: is that a def lepard album ?
mircea_popescu: o no wait, it was "careful with that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget the nutmeg".
mircea_popescu: my bad.
asciilifeform: where is the spam
asciilifeform: life is so empty without it
asciilifeform: did the fed run out of coin
mircea_popescu: failed to impressed, is at home crying in pillow ?
asciilifeform: the miracast almost makes me wish i had a tv set. would plug it in, watch blockchain go
trinque: lol what
trinque: cazalla: nutmeg?
mats: mircea_popescu: part V is covered in the first signed message, it follows the list of cases http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 and i chose trilema as the venue for public review
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( https://archive.is/http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 )
trinque: mircea_popescu: bahahaha
mircea_popescu: mats and 4 ?
trinque: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 << my god, he did nutmeg and he could think any thought he wanted!
assbot: Erowid Experience Vaults: Nutmeg - Not at all what I expected! - 21663 ... ( https://archive.is/https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 )
asciilifeform: when i took organic chem at uni, for some reason 'extract myristicin from the nutmeg' was the first lab session
asciilifeform did not eat it, on account of recalling that it is one of the 'bad' hallucinogens
trinque: heh, sure, and his "dose" was 5 teaspoons
trinque: of the nutmeg itself
mats: mircea_popescu: i can build a table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for? the set is small and idk how you'd judge the quality of the data
mircea_popescu: im not looking for anything too elaborate. do a formal "here's everything" bit and i'll call it good.
mircea_popescu: "the sample is small and not much to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample that is small and not much to be said.
cazalla: trinque, preddy sure nut meg was in some cook book alongside banana skins ( i tried both afterall)
punkman: "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage that contains embedded OpenType fonts. "
trinque: I chewed some baby woodrose seeds one time, was pretty weird
mats: plenty of font bugs left
asciilifeform: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg << http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/S25FL128S_256S_00.pdf >> short sck and si lines, apparently throws the cpu into bootloader, can then rewrite rom via usb
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207973 << /me does and will! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 20:51:39; mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
cazalla: trinque, i think i remembe that one and something about soaking them
trinque: yup, that was it
trinque: and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your thing, they're great!
BingoBoingo: Empire of Fee-fees https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png )
trinque: "The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host" << wahaha
scoopbot_revived: The best auction. Ever. http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/
BingoBoingo: trinque: Remember it was necessary because Imgur is fat
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/f0be2298689c860f6c88fe5c534aa8cc.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jddf8i )
trinque: gross
asciilifeform: barfatronic
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17254 << today's lol
assbot: Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1JddYGF )
mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea : take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip them naked, chain them to desks and let them come out once they did something worthwhile.
mircea_popescu: i think it's been perverted in the evil clutches of ustardism tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: substitute in a different profession and see if the above still appears to make sense
BingoBoingo: Still works
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them build a plane'
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony'
asciilifeform: hope you have good corpse disposal facilities
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only substituteable profession is camwhore.
mircea_popescu: and it appears to make sense yes.
BingoBoingo: Lock kids in a room, let out once two have switched kidneys
mircea_popescu: ahahaha.
asciilifeform: software as it exists now is largely the result of precisely this kind of process.
asciilifeform: i am not impressed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is what defines the profession.
mircea_popescu: you think venetian glassblowing is defined by what they actually did, or by all the glass they could have conceivably blown
trinque: right, "weekend appz" as I said
mircea_popescu: on the basis of... glass ?
asciilifeform: witch doctor in the congo does not define medicine.
asciilifeform: not now, not ever.
mircea_popescu: at some point, yes.
mircea_popescu: at some point congolese witch doctor defined medicine.
asciilifeform: not when there are actual doctors somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and at the current point, "programmer" is EXACTLY like "etsy artefactual expert"
mircea_popescu: but there ARENT actual doctors somewhere.
mircea_popescu: that's what we're trying to do here, the somewhere. imo not done yet.
mircea_popescu: so so far - programmer, camwhore, boys and girls.
asciilifeform begs to differ
mircea_popescu: used to be easy rider and waitress, fiddy years ago
mircea_popescu: this isn't going towards a meta-programmersclub thing is it ?
asciilifeform: nah.
mircea_popescu: where is the place ? do i go to microsoft and learn how programming's done fo real by pros ?
asciilifeform: mno
mircea_popescu: or where, nvidia ? foxconn ?
asciilifeform: mno.
mircea_popescu: well what, naggum's crypt ?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: or my crypt
asciilifeform: or perhaps 1,001 other
mircea_popescu: sorry to tell you, crypts do not cunt in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: a profession's not an osuary.
asciilifeform: hey my crypt's in business
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, i took this as far as i care to. gotta admit it's a fine if unpleasant argument
mircea_popescu: i yield the balance of my time, to the future programmers.
phf: perhaps ITA before bought by google
asciilifeform: (and the folks i work with - are very much not 'etsy artefactual expert' types)
gernika: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208154 << refreshing. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 01:08:53; mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, you me and everyone else. except nobody can visit.
asciilifeform: phf: 1,001 places! but none are famous
asciilifeform: and none lift derps off the street and 'teach' them
mircea_popescu: a profession's different from a fucking secret society yo.
mircea_popescu: fundamentally different.
asciilifeform: not so sure about this
trinque: asciilifeform: hell I've learned a great deal being *here*
mircea_popescu: like a wife and a whore : both sore in the cunt, yet not the same deal.
mircea_popescu: profession specifically means, "dominative of the public discourse on the topic"
mircea_popescu: which your guys are not.
asciilifeform: much of history of physical science (arguably the 'good times') were squarely in the 'secret society' days
asciilifeform: public discourse - aha, nasdaq, not mpex
mircea_popescu: "physical scientist" was never a profession.
asciilifeform: alchemist!
mircea_popescu: for that matter, spinoza was a lens polisher by trade. his profession wasn't "philosopher". that was his hobby.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00056956 = 11.619 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: !up Rozal
trinque: !up Cory
trinque: couple more of those and I'll stop
trinque: tired of this thing going offline
trinque: long term fix is ripping out the golang thing and replacing it, meanwhile... bash hairball
asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation ☟︎
asciilifeform notices that all of his nodes carry precisely the same tx, but then again they are all peering one another...
asciilifeform: https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/ << l0l, poor buggers are wedged
assbot: - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLgFEL )
asciilifeform: i oughta knock on their door and tell'em
asciilifeform: esp. funny considering that they portscan planet 24/7 and try to -addnode to everybody who answers
asciilifeform: (incl. even us)
trinque: alright, that sob checks his underwear via cron and restarts if need be
trinque: someone give me a shout if he disappears again
scoopbot_revived: Prepare to be insanely, incredibly, very very jealous with envy! http://trilema.com/2015/prepare-to-be-insanely-incredibly-very-very-jealous-with-envy/
asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner ☟︎
asciilifeform: ideal application - small circuit, precious-little comms with outside world, etc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2013#429461 << old threadz, for n00bz ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2013 17:13:53; asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains.
asciilifeform: http://www.righto.com/2014/09/why-z-80s-data-pins-are-scrambled.html << unrelated, historical lulz
assbot: Why the Z-80's data pins are scrambled ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLj5U3 )
asciilifeform: and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema.
asciilifeform: com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring )
mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45291 @ 0.00058092 = 26.3104 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: neato!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu awake ?
mats: trinque: anything wrong with deedbot?
trinque: clearly there is
trinque: oh, no that's the wrong syntax
trinque: just deedbot- <url>
trinque: mats: ^
mats: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mats: syntax changed huh
trinque: yeah, there were complaints, mistakes were made, those responsible were sacked
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42550 @ 0.00055919 = 23.7935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00058292 = 29.2043 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat? ☟︎
decimation: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-459 < " In fiscal year 2011, the most recent information available, DOD spent over $1 billion leasing commercial SATCOM. "
assbot: U.S. GAO - Defense Satellite Communications: DOD Needs Additional Information to Improve Procurements ... ( http://bit.ly/1VnmJTe )
decimation: asciilifeform: how did you attach your serial cables? ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00058292 = 32.0023 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: can you even buy müller gates? ☟︎
decimation: apparently he americanized it into muller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45923 @ 0.00058292 = 26.7694 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00055919 = 25.3313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00058292 = 20.5771 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207730 << i copied a few blk files over to my gentoo laptop and tried blkcut and it just failed instantly so I figured I did something wrong ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 15:05:16; asciilifeform: somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00058292 = 16.0012 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208260 << 1631edac873633135b9eb9b8214d6d2b30d708d00ec4dd1db6a9bf09f384551b (on 'dulap' AND 'zoolag') ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 02:39:11; decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208265 << afaik they were never once sold as discrete items ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 02:54:24; decimation: asciilifeform: can you even buy müller gates?
asciilifeform: (i.e. there is not a 74xxxx containing six of'em)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208263 << whaddayamean how ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 02:47:26; decimation: asciilifeform: how did you attach your serial cables?
asciilifeform: with battery-powered soldering iron, on balcony
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208270 << pretty plz post the input that brought about its death ?? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 03:17:50; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207730 << i copied a few blk files over to my gentoo laptop and tried blkcut and it just failed instantly so I figured I did something wrong
asciilifeform: as in, something i could gdb through
danielpbarron: the blk file?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: if you know which.
danielpbarron: i tried a bunch, nothing worked
asciilifeform: nothing worked in the sense that it crashed every time ?
danielpbarron: yeah I never have seen it work
asciilifeform: plz upload just one then
asciilifeform: somewhere.
asciilifeform: can be the ml
decimation: yeah obviously soldered, did you find pads broken out somewhere?
asciilifeform: or wherever else is convenient.
asciilifeform: decimation: i mentioned earlier, in logs, they are under the sticker
asciilifeform: clearly labeled 'tx' 'rx' 'gnd'
decimation: lol must have missed that
asciilifeform: each is around the size of a printed full stop
asciilifeform: so use a reasonably young iron tip
decimation: heh yeah plus steady hand
decimation: is it a 'spi' or 'rs-232 low voltage' bus?
decimation: it's weird how divergence seems to happen in blk0009.dat - deserves further investigation with block dumper
asciilifeform: rs232 but ttl voltage
asciilifeform: same as pogo
asciilifeform: 115200 baud.
asciilifeform: also same as pogo.
decimation: yeah, seems pretty stanard in industry
asciilifeform: no part of any of this is in any way astonishing.
asciilifeform: presently wondering whether the '256M' of ram was a lie, and if so, how the thing ended up with 150
asciilifeform: that ain't a 150 die on the pcb - no such animal
danielpbarron: welp i'm retarded; file permissions was the problem
asciilifeform: l0l
danielpbarron: figured that out in trying to host the damn file
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt << nice!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxIWCW )
danielpbarron watches blk0001 get shredded
asciilifeform: ^ to be clear, that is the stock (manufacturer's) fw
asciilifeform: oh l0l, the 256M turns into 150 on account of the framebuffer
asciilifeform: duh
asciilifeform: 24M for the fb proper, but another 60 (!) for accelerator, something called 'ion'
danielpbarron: Extracting block #188528 in archive blk0001.dat : 244995 bytes << blk0001.dat ends here
asciilifeform: as for what the fuck 'ipp buf' is, and why it eats 16 precious MB, science is silent !
asciilifeform: nobody seems to know
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc this is correct
danielpbarron: yay
danielpbarron: this is from my on pogo
asciilifeform: 'ipp' appears to be yet another graphicsism
asciilifeform: in yet other nyooz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/blog-post.html
assbot: ClubOrlov: 书名:假如美国不在了:无美国世界的生存新秩序 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxJwAA )
danielpbarron: Extracting block #3366 in archive blk0019.dat : 999986 bytes
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if you've the time, hash and deedbot your blocks
danielpbarron: aight
asciilifeform: (i don't presently have mine on hand in cut-up form)
danielpbarron: which hash is prefered? 256 or 512?
asciilifeform: 512
asciilifeform: (as general principle)
decimation: ipp = intel performance primatives? makes no sense
asciilifeform: no
asciilifeform: it belongs to the gpu in the 'rockchip'
asciilifeform: (the soc that runs the thing)
decimation: actually it's quite impressive they have stuffed this much capability into humble stick
decimation: asciilifeform: there's probably no hope of resurrecting the original distro source?
asciilifeform: incidentally, is anyone else perplexed by the 'mali' gpu? recall mircea_popescu's piece were he picks it as the archetypical pissant country, not even interestingly infamous the way, e.g., zimbabwe or north kr are
asciilifeform: decimation: it's a cut-down 'android'
asciilifeform: certifiably worthless
asciilifeform: and what little space there is, is occupied by crud
asciilifeform: it Must Die (tm)
decimation: mali kinda became famous with the wondering muslimtude
asciilifeform: (to be replaced with a civilized 'buildroot', naturally)
decimation: might as well turn off framebuffer, can't spare 60meg
asciilifeform: supposing it can be turned off
decimation: aye
asciilifeform: at any rate, it still wins ram-wise over pogo, with it on
decimation: the intresting question is - are the the hardware doodads supported in vanilla kernel
asciilifeform: my current understanding is - 'sorta'
asciilifeform: one can get a picture going, yes.
decimation: unfortunately 1001 flavors of 'android'
decimation: hardware I mean
asciilifeform: fuck android
decimation: full of closed-source shit
asciilifeform: the hw is a bog-standard cheapo arm
asciilifeform: it will go just as pogo went.
asciilifeform: there is an additional trick needed to get the usb chipset into host mode
asciilifeform: (while receiving power from the jack)
decimation: can you measure current draw?
decimation: for connecting drives, yes
asciilifeform: haven't formally measured, but it worked fine from an unpowered hub with a rat's nest of crud hanging off it
decimation: probably less than a few hundred ma then
asciilifeform: so probably somewhere considerably south of 500ma
asciilifeform: (at no serious cpu load)
decimation: interesting, would be useful as a 'internet of things' device
asciilifeform: gets pretty warm
asciilifeform: this thing is probably the most cpu per gram of whole machine, at least in my collection
asciilifeform: and almost cheap enough to drop from airplane.
decimation: someone probably is
cazalla: le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdCk31 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46767 @ 0.00055919 = 26.1516 BTC [-]
decimation: asciilifeform: have you used a markup format for directed graphs?
decimation: seems like 'dot' is the defacto standard
asciilifeform: decimation: can't say that i have
decimation: cazalla: lol
decimation: I wonder if that kernel boot line is some kind of device map? maybe allocating the gpu mem?
decimation: and that alsa line is interesting - I wonder if that is to drive the audio on the hdmi port or if there is actual analog audio
asciilifeform: no analogue on this board
asciilifeform: at least, not brought out
decimation: can you find the rom device? might be able to make it puke through serial port
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79100 @ 0.00058771 = 46.4879 BTC [+] {5}
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.diana_coman.1:eda77f1600ad140a749e385a9f6eb53436d7c3487db0039bf0cf85840a907f25
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for diana_coman with note: fellow Eulorian; knows her way around a samovar
asciilifeform: decimation: in the log
asciilifeform: also the box is a seriously cut-down thing
asciilifeform: not even, e.g., 'cat' on it
decimation: yeah gonna have to clear a beachhead
decimation: or remote-mount usb stick
asciilifeform: no 'mount'
asciilifeform: it'll have to be put in 'recovery mode' and the whole turd overwritten with something reasonable.
decimation: can download turds here it appears http://www.rockchipfirmware.com/firmware-downloads
assbot: Firmware Downloads | Rockchip Firmware ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdDVWB )
decimation: asciilifeform: I assume you saw this http://linux-rockchip.info/mw/index.php?title=Category:List_of_Rockchip_SoCs
assbot: Category:List of Rockchip SoCs - Linux Rockchip ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9T9Xu )
decimation: has link to specsheet
cazalla: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00056682 = 10.6279 BTC [-]
decimation: asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power) ☟︎
decimation: http://www.tokuda.net/diary/adiary.cgi/0851
assbot: NetBSD/evbarm on Radxa Rock USB編 - BSD小僧の日記 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdEO1g )
decimation: http://wiki.t-firefly.com/index.php/Firefly-RK3288/Build_kernel/en
decimation to bed, hopefully interesting
BingoBoingo: Snacky Cakes now ruining more livers than booze https://archive.is/PY1kW
assbot: Study finds increase in unused transplant livers | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1SyNbVX )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/y8bS7
assbot: Many Livers 'Too Fat' For Transplant | Medpage Today ... ( http://bit.ly/1SyNhwH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30154 @ 0.00056011 = 16.8896 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Fuck it. I spent all of this time syncing with the CVS tree. I'm compiling this bitch.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00055919 = 14.2314 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: ;;isup openbsd.org
gribble: openbsd.org is up
trinque: wat
trinque: cannot get to it from here
trinque: and couldn't from another, distant IP
trinque: guess it passed though
BingoBoingo: trinque: up here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00055919 = 4.4735 BTC [-]
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207408 << hack on production, automatic 100% keystroke deplyoment ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 02:36:12; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, phf, Adlai, gabriel_laddel: still curious about deploying CL code to running instances
Adlai: also get chummy with http://l1sp.org/search?q=u-i-f eg https://github.com/adlai/scalpl/blob/master/util.lisp#L65-L72
assbot: u-i-f - l1sp.org search ... ( http://bit.ly/1fiGZEL )
assbot: scalpl/util.lisp at master · adlai/scalpl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1fiGXwH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00056682 = 7.9922 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00055425 = 24.6918 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00056682 = 3.2876 BTC [+]
shinohai: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 280.11, Best ask: 280.15, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 280.15, 24 hour volume: 10999.12117073, 24 hour low: 277.0, 24 hour high: 282.1, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: !up Guest58663
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 29.26357267 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 5 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/02MWWGK.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpJvXw )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208225 << no. because everyone that starts an attempt gets spooked by the results. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 01:35:44; *: asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 01:56:22; *: asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208243 << coolness. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 02:09:06; mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208447 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 10:55:19; mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and hanbot and whoever else took an interest in this.
mircea_popescu: "请买我的书" lmao
mircea_popescu: users by lines, last 7 days 1.) assbot 1151 2.) mircea_popescu 1111 3.) asciilifeform 1087 << the closest it's been!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208376 << top kek. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 04:47:34; cazalla: le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg
mircea_popescu: "our culture"
mircea_popescu: stupid bitch. she ain't no part of any culture.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00055808 = 8.7619 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable
mircea_popescu: eh down again ?
mircea_popescu: heh it was up a moment ago.
BingoBoingo: Maybe it is just really slow again
BingoBoingo: " Error 1000 Ray ID: 209672bca5fe260a • 2015-07-21 11:08:29 UTC "
BingoBoingo: "You've requested a page on a website (qntra.net) that is on the CloudFlare network. Unfortunately, it is resolving to an IP address that is creating a conflict within CloudFlare's system."
mircea_popescu: aww.
BingoBoingo: DNS points to prohibited IP
mircea_popescu: doh.
mircea_popescu: (i just switched it over. coinbase's
mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and then im supposed to not suspect usg is out there ddosing everything.
mircea_popescu: because hey, "that'd be just crazy"
shinohai: @ BingoBoingo you *still* getting attacked?
mircea_popescu: only been a week or so ?
mircea_popescu: well not counting the 20gbps oct spike and the 15gbps june spike o.O
mircea_popescu: what do you mean STILL lmao.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Most of last week actually wasn't so bad, at least 8 hours of availability a day. This weekend though
shinohai: Hmmm....someone needs a hobby.
mircea_popescu: lol like hot water.
mircea_popescu: is there a non-fucktarded img host ?
mircea_popescu: eh nm, wtf am i asking. for the internet to be useful, i must be from the past.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bw-qntra-year.png << there. THAT is independent journalism.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpOasw )
BingoBoingo: And the BW usage has no correlation at all with the quantcast stats
mircea_popescu: the spikes are both ddos.
BingoBoingo: Of course, because the internet is retarded to the point "usage" numbers can't at all relate to the actual use of a thing by persons.
mircea_popescu: what persons.
BingoBoingo: Ones who read. USG department of internet says that no. Bandwidth usage must never correlate with actual readership. So packet inflation.
mircea_popescu: neways. i'd much rather debug this than move, so your patience's appreciated.
mircea_popescu: also if you have burning articles, i can arrange for it to be visible selectively so you can make archive prints
BingoBoingo: Keep debugging. Thankfully nothing too burning is in queue at the moment.
shinohai: is qntra archived anywhere?
shinohai: actual IP>>> coinbase.com UNITED STATES
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: this has all the makings of drama. lesee
shinohai: http://pastebin.com/mHExYJUX
assbot: 0/24 block search - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpRaoM )
chetty: lmao right outside dc even
shinohai: Just another Amazon instance
mircea_popescu: amazon instance -> cloudflare -> internet. all via PKI. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: YOUR PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT TO US. nom nom nom
shinohai: SO important that too < 10 minutes to find.
mircea_popescu: so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if he visits any website, both amazon and cloudflare have records, which can even be compared. how's that for ECC asciilifeform !
mircea_popescu: obviously if he pays anyone anything that's tracked. and in his dumbass case, this includes bitcoin
mircea_popescu: which he buys via amazon instance > cloudflare and he spends via amazon instance > cloudflare.
chetty: given the latest revelations that stuss is almost at the noise level
mircea_popescu: might as well use fucking visa rather than all this wastage.
mircea_popescu: then when i say bitcoin is not for the poor, people are liek o noes.
mircea_popescu: why waste all the fucking cycles to do visa poorly ?
BingoBoingo: !b 8 ✂︎
assbot: Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TYZ1NS.txt )
mircea_popescu: of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever" ☟︎
shinohai: My sides: https://np.reddit.com/r/BitMarket/comments/3dzcj9/wtsbitcoin_trade_bot_website_businessinabox_10_btc/
assbot: [WTS]Bitcoin Trade Bot Website - Business-in-a-Box (10 BTC) : BitMarket ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNXCQj )
shinohai: http://ec2-107-21-102-138.compute-1.amazonaws.com/webalizer/
assbot: Usage Statistics for web.suchdamage.org - Last 12 Months ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNZfgY )
shinohai: /icons/ lists directory contents, tsk tsk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40524 @ 0.0005634 = 22.8312 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30176 @ 0.00056682 = 17.1044 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00056682 = 10.7696 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: shinohai wassat ?
shinohai: A bunch of old shit i guess, i dunno. I was peeking about trying to find where they keep shit.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/ << now with chatlog.
assbot: The best auction. Ever. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HO3vwJ )
mircea_popescu: too quick
mircea_popescu: lol something awful now running mostly psa ads
mircea_popescu: "Proprietary code decays and devteams of proprietary code decay even faster. Just look at Google."
mircea_popescu: shit i love reading my old quotes.
BingoBoingo: No Cloudflare or DNS for Best Korea https://www.northkoreatech.org/2015/07/06/a-peek-inside-north-koreas-intranet/
assbot: A peek inside North Korea's intranet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IbaEXb )
mats: traded ma two SSDs in for pcie SSDs
mats: striped reads at 4GB/s with two 'SM951'
shinohai: nice mats
nubbins`: hi
nubbins`: oh look, courts circus finally getting resolved
nubbins`: going on two years now :0
nubbins`: and almost 27btc in the pot! will be interesting to see how it's sliced up
nubbins`: say, i'm sure someone here would know: what's the smallest amount of btc i can send to each of ~6,000 addresses in a single tx and expect to get it relayed?
punkman: depends on fee/age/etc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15164 @ 0.00055438 = 8.4066 BTC [-]
decimation: http://thepointstraveler.com/an-introduction-to-the-basics-of-manufactured-spending/ < lol there's a big subculture devoted to ripping off idiotic marketing schemes (credit card points, etc)
assbot: An Introduction to the Basics of Manufactured Spending - The Points Traveler ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKCFA )
decimation: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072015a-smithsonian-kickstarter-armstrong-spacesuit.html < a new low for usg - begging for money on kickstarter
assbot: Smithsonian launches Kickstarter to 'reboot' Neil Armstrong spacesuit display | collectSPACE ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKHcd )
decimation: " "The Smithsonian receives 70 percent of its appropriations from the federal government and that amount covers staff salaries, building support and maintenance, and not much more" said Lewis. "It has been a very long time since we have been able to use the appropriations for programming, exhibits and special projects.""
decimation: ^ usg should raise all its money this way, voluntary taxes: "Funding the $1e9 joint strike fighter: at the $1e7 level:recieve turd hand-polished to the same specifications as the canopy"
decimation: "Check out this clip from “CBS Saturday Morning” to see how the team digitizes everything from the Spirit of St. Louis to a sitting American president." < tele-dildonics?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208406 << same as pogo. both - absent ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 05:17:35; decimation: asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power)
decimation: pogo has inactive rtc?
asciilifeform: it does
asciilifeform: i explained many times.
asciilifeform: needs crystal and battery.
asciilifeform: (and, iirc, a few passives)
decimation: yeah probably, not gonna happen for such a cheap board
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208443 << realize that if even one such chip is publicly available, this is trivial to test: put it in ln2, if it automagically runs faster, without any extra manipulations - it is clockless logic ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 10:51:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208469 << 'good cop / bad cop' - what do you suppose the maxint porous routers and miscellaneous ddosatrons are for, if not for herding folks onto 'cloud' ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 11:13:08; mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare.
decimation: spam -> gmail; ddos -> cloudflare,aws ec2
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: banditism -> cities
asciilifeform: (as described in 'the art of not being governed')
decimation: yeah, see also mancur olson
asciilifeform: !s yi yi zhi yi
assbot: 17 results for 'yi yi zhi yi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=yi+yi+zhi+yi
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208502 << no need to ride 'uber', just walk around carrying ipNohe ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 11:40:52; mircea_popescu: so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db.
decimation: or any phone of any kind
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: but true patriot (tm) carries iPnohe, cache the gps stream, save the crown the disk space
decimation: or drive anywhere with a license plate
decimation: or use a credit card to buy anything
asciilifeform: ^ this one is even more interesting than commonly supposed: one needn't even be usg to access purchase records! they are, i learned, routinely subpoenaed in civil cases
asciilifeform: (e.g., divorce)
decimation: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/chicago-regional-housing-section-eight/398798/ < "en the state of Illinois distributes low-income housing tax credits, which are essential for developers who want to build affordable housing without losing money, it favors projects that have Section 8 units, so these units are also more likely to get funded than, for example, affordable units in struggling neighborhoods with no ...
assbot: Chicago's Regional Housing Initiative - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMjml )
decimation: ... Section 8 units. "
decimation: asciilifeform: I think you can just buy them from visa, amex, etc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208512 << mircea_popescu will be pleased to learn that this part of the program has been accomplished! i, for instance, have no idea what serious disposable money even smells like from a cannon's shot away ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 11:48:18; mircea_popescu: of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever.
decimation: if you are the right kind of person
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208513 << actually the result is automagically doubled rent/mortgage ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 11:49:06; mircea_popescu: and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever"
scoopbot_revived: Wences whacked, Xapo zapped. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/21/wences-whacked-xapo-zapped/
pete_dushenski: decimation: i'm assuming you caught this week's episode of econtalk ? re ^^
decimation: heh no I'm getting through my weekly dose of the french revolution
pete_dushenski: burke ?
asciilifeform: speaking of which...
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/so-you-say-you-dont-want-revolution.html
assbot: ClubOrlov: So you say you don't want a revolution? ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMDBn )
decimation: looks like lulzy fun
asciilifeform: ^ mega-article
decimation: no this guy: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/
assbot: Revolutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMFt6 )
asciilifeform: ^ orlov follows up on mircea_popescu's 'greeks must behead'
pete_dushenski: decimation: ew, he only accepts paypal
pete_dushenski: for donations
decimation: L0L!
decimation: oh you mean russ roberts?
pete_dushenski: decimation: nah, revolutions guy
pete_dushenski: i dun think russ does donations other than those from stanford directly
decimation: yeah. the revolutions guy also did a 300 episode 'history of rome', he's pretty good for amateur historian
pete_dushenski: that's a bonkers number of episodes
pete_dushenski: makes dan carlin seem tame.
decimation: yeah, but he goes into pretty deep detail. he's 44 episodes into the french revolution
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, carlin's death throes of the republic is mega-recommended.
decimation puts it on the list
pete_dushenski: http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series/
assbot: Hardcore History - Death Throes of the Republic Series - Dan Carlin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki3IhC )
asciilifeform: 'if you give Stalin a memorandum recommending that 500 priests get shot, and Stalin crosses out 500 and pencils in 1000 in red pencil, then you better find 500 more priests to shoot, or the number becomes 1001 and includes you.'
pete_dushenski: listened to it back in 2013. carlin is pretty masterful at bringing political and war stories to life.
decimation: asciilifeform: I see a pretty direct route from nazis -> baathists -> isis
asciilifeform: 'Could this have been done without any “red terror”? I doubt it. Greece is very much oligarch-ridden; even the celebrated former Syriza FM Yanis Varoufakis is the son an industrial magnate. The Greek oligarchs and the rich would have had to be rounded up and held as hostages. Numerous people in the government and in the military have a split allegiance—they work for Europe, not for Greece. They would have had to be sacke
asciilifeform: d immediately and held incommunicado, under house arrest at a minimum. No doubt foreign special services would have run rampant, looking for ways to undermine the revolutionary government. This would have called for drastic preemptive measures to physically eliminate foreign spies and agents before they could have had a chance to act. And so on. This wouldn't have been a job for fluffy mini-poodles. '
decimation: the only reason anyone gives two shits about greece is because of the precedent it would set for spain, italy, other countries that matter
pete_dushenski: which is nuts, when you think about it
pete_dushenski: a precedent's only a precedent if two things are comparable.
pete_dushenski: what, just because they're all on the mediterranean, apples are oranges now ?
pete_dushenski: italy, spain, and portugal suck in their own way, but their not career criminals like the greeks are.
pete_dushenski: they're*
asciilifeform: no?
decimation: it is nuts, but it's kinda what happens when you are pretending that the 'eu' exists
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: where were greece's foreign colonies in the last millennia ?
punkman: pete_dushenski: not career criminals in italy and spain?
pete_dushenski: punkman: under eu 'phree bezzle if you sign here', sure, but that's relatively recent.
pete_dushenski: greece has been at this game since plato, neh ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/20/ashley-madison-data-breach-time-to-buy-bitcoin/#comment-267850
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Ashley Madison data breach: time to buy Bitcoin? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki59ga )
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: at the scrapyard, 'ford' and 'mercedes' looks quite alike, and go in the same press
pete_dushenski: ^greenspun's got the bitcoin bug nao ;)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: unless scrapyard is 'pick n' pull', in which case it's not just the raw materials that's priced out, but the actual functional parts extant
pete_dushenski: "Greece is very much oligarch-ridden" << because i'm sure greece would be in an EVEN BETTER financial position if only the power were returned to the puddles of mud who voted 'oxi'.
asciilifeform: and what are the good engine parts in sp, it, .. ?
pete_dushenski: that's for the shake-out to determine, not top-down authorities.
asciilifeform: but as i understand, pete_dushenski was telling us that there ~are~ such
asciilifeform: so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis
asciilifeform: from my perch, these old 'rustbuckets' all looks quite alike
asciilifeform: i don't see a clear 'mercedes'
decimation: the 'eu' was a funding vehicle to give all the poor idiots money to buy german/french/uk goods
asciilifeform: outsourced inflation
pete_dushenski: italy still has production capabilities - cars, clothes, bicycles, etc.
decimation: now germany/france/uk are whining that they are being crushed by the debts they lent to these idiots so they could spend on their exports
pete_dushenski: i don't recall seeing a 'made in greece' tag recently, if ever.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: by same token, so does usa
decimation: the only part of italy that isn't orc-land is the po river valley
asciilifeform: the question is not whether the machines are there - but whether anyone wants to pay enough for the output of said machines to actually feed italians
decimation: and parts north
asciilifeform: (or americans)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: agreed. i'm not of the opinion that usistan doesn't have useful shards.
punkman: pete_dushenski: oh last couple years there's little greek flags on a myrida of products
punkman: *myriad
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: eh, not like factory workers need so much to eat. hungry people work.
punkman: half of it still's made in china of course
pete_dushenski: punkman: lulzy
pete_dushenski: 'assembled in greece'
punkman: pete_dushenski: usually accompanied by derpy slogans
pete_dushenski: which is basically 'added label sticker in greece'
punkman: "buy greek, support the economy"
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i ☟︎
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: when grandfather was in prison, yes - hungry - which is why he still won't eat soup to this day.
pete_dushenski: but today's hungry have no such option, from whence comes the idea that bitcoin wasn't discovered ?
pete_dushenski: i dun see that the group has much recourse against the capitalist.
pete_dushenski: you make it sound like we need them, when in point of fact it's the converse that's truer.
pete_dushenski: why any -person- would bother with greece is beyond me.
pete_dushenski: eu of course isn't a -person-, it's a ponzi scheme with 'dignity' that has to save face.
pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. ☟︎
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phf: pete_dushenski: i think that's american bias. as a eurpn i feel the same about greece as you do about itality, though they both are failed states and third world economies
funkenstein_: olympus massif is beautiful, worth a visit for that summit alone
pete_dushenski: phf: both failed states ? sure. the point isn't that their governments suck merkel's balls, of course they do, the point is that one of them is usable for spare parts, the other isn't.
phf: pete_dushenski: right, and that's what i'm saying is american bias. italy is popularized here because of all the italians, while greece is sometimes vaguely remembered
pete_dushenski: sorry, where's 'here' ?
phf: sorry, "here" in the states
pete_dushenski: aha. well i'm in canada but it's largely the same 'culture'.
phf: russian (and european) literature borrows from greeks as much as it did from italians. i grew up intimately knowing greek mythos and not just from watching Hercules on tv, because you can't read a single russian novel without some greek allusion or outright a direct reference. when i went there i knew places from before even seeing them
pete_dushenski: well, eastern half of the roman empire 'went greek,' infecting eastern europe and up into russia, so that'd make sense.
pete_dushenski: and i'm not saying that the greeks haven't been influential intellectually
pete_dushenski: even if they did just bring egyptian and abrahamic philosophy to the northern mediterranean
pete_dushenski: they took the best parts !
pete_dushenski: but that was 2300 years ago now.
pete_dushenski: the spanish, italians, and portuguese were relevant and productive as recently as a century ago.
asciilifeform: and the americans - a quarter century
asciilifeform: what of it
pete_dushenski: less time for decay, more pieces left to rebuild with.
asciilifeform: 'but it was a mercedes! last year!'
asciilifeform: 'you totalled it' ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl
pete_dushenski: so front end smashed, tires still roll.
pete_dushenski: leave that smashed-up merc for 200 years in the scrapyard and it'll be rust dust.
phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but ☟︎
nubbins`: <+punkman> depends on fee/age/etc << gimme some numbers here! oldest coins i have handy access to haven't moved since sept 2014
pete_dushenski: find the banged-up merc 200 -days- after the accident and maybe you find yourself a new alternator, or maybe the glass is all intact and salvageable.
phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" ☟︎☟︎
nubbins`: reason i'm wondering this is that it came up the other day
nubbins`: nobody's spammed all of the casascius coins yet
funkenstein_: spamming an address doesn't change the age of the UTXOs already there
nubbins`: no, you misunderstand
nubbins`: sending spam/dust to a casascius coin's address is like spraying indelible graffiti on it
nubbins`: i've passed up on coins because the addresses had extra funds sent to em
punkman: why?
kakobrekla: i think he owns a mac punkman
pete_dushenski: phf: sure it's sentimental, but sparta didn't invade troy for a woman, greece is being propped up because the eu doesn't want to admit FAILURE and suck Putin's and b-a's cock to compensate.
pete_dushenski: because 'dignity', because reasons.
pete_dushenski: because maybe papering over your problems with more and more layers of paper will eventually create a cast of 'stability'
pete_dushenski: like greece is a broken arm, instead of the broken head it is.
phf: pete_dushenski: i vaguelly agree with that, but i'd say that's sop opinion here.
pete_dushenski: and the opinions of the educated are to be discounted because the media has a bridge to sell you ?
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phf: i don't know if the whole greece situation is a failure though. that /eu/ failed was obvious by 2005 or so. now germans seem to be doing exactly what they want to, that is refine their control over various parts of europe. next it's bailouts for italy, spain, etc. where wehrmacht failed, bundestag succeeds
pete_dushenski: you can't have the eu failing and the bundestag succeeding at the same time. they're one and the same.
pete_dushenski: if you're saying that the eu is failed/failing, which i happen to agree with, then by extension so has their monetary union and the german attempts at 'peaceful' unification of europe.
fluffypony: http://newsthump.com/2015/07/20/shark-survives-attack-by-australian-surfer/
assbot: Shark survives attack by Australian surfer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ii0vym )
pete_dushenski: which, had the internet not come along and fucked shit up quite so badly, might've even worked.
pete_dushenski: fluffypony: lucky shark !
phf: pete_dushenski: that i don't know. i was under the impression that germany came out stand as an independent economic power. with that assumption i don't see german bailout as any different as putin buying the place. with bailout the power lines are all obscured, because the purchase is done within an existing political framework so is not blatant.
phf: putin be like "oh, so we're buying this shit? i got caash." and germany is like "no no, sshh, we're HELPING, mommy knows best, shoo"
pete_dushenski: the latest 'bailout conditions' do seem to indicate that greece's public amenities are being turned over to private/eu concerns.
pete_dushenski: sorta first-come-first-serve in that sense, and germany beat russia to the punch
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00055645 = 8.625 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "The formula for inertia is p=mv where p is inertia, m is mass and v is velocity." ahaha where did they find this fuckwit
mircea_popescu: "let's call things thing because it's the internet of things and conviction's more important than a clue!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00054545 = 14.8908 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "“Given our focus on Falcon 9, we’ve de-prioritized Falcon Heavy to probably launch in the spring next year, maybe April or so,” SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk told reporters Monday."
pete_dushenski: such competence, these crown corp derps.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208629 << eh don't be ridiculous. "italy" is a modern construct, much like greece, and from the same period. prior to that construct, which was supposed to reboot the shitland, italy and greece did exactly the same. ask charles of france how the whores of venice went like. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 14:25:35; pete_dushenski: greece has been at this game since plato, neh ?
mircea_popescu: ask the barbarians who can fuck more soldiers than a roman matron
mircea_popescu: etc
mircea_popescu: for the record : p is impulse. the definition of inertia is m = F/a, where m is inertia[l mass].
pete_dushenski: not saying 'italy' isn't a modern construct, more that what lies within its currently defined borders just so happens, perhaps by chance, perhaps not, to include more valuable 'parts' than greece does.
mircea_popescu: as "opposed" i guess to energetic mass, m = 2W/v^2
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this may reflect your own mind more than the ground.
pete_dushenski: that can hardly be ruled out.
pete_dushenski: now, as ever.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: do you dispute the point then ?
mircea_popescu: yes. no difference in leechdom between italy and greece. they're exactly the same sort of zoo park. ex civilisaiton, plox baksheesh that's visible at giza
decimation: I would wager that nearly all products you think of as 'coming from italy' are made north of florence
mircea_popescu: and the short, brown, dumbass current inhabitants have as much to do with the slender, white, original builders of the monuments as your egyptian arabs have to do with the egyptians.
mircea_popescu: go to the museum, look at the statues, then look at the people milling around them.
mircea_popescu: !up chema
pete_dushenski: sure, pharoah's nose isn't mubarak's nose.
decimation: Senegalese selling fake shit?
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: decimation: then that's the part, north of florence, worth the bother !
mircea_popescu: ie germany
decimation: ^ yeah more or less
decimation: north of verona most people speak german
pete_dushenski: hm. yes.
mircea_popescu: saxony, w/e. if you're into it.
decimation: suedtirol was under active insurgancy only a few years ago
decimation: http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/may/30/south-tyrol-live-in-italy-feel-austrian "Klotz says: "There are acts of racism each single day. Despite Italian and German both being official languages, I often bump into police officers who don't know German. They point at the Italian flag stitched on their uniform and require I speak Italian simply because we're in Italy. They don't even know that I have the right to speak in ...
assbot: The South Tyrol identity crisis: to live in Italy, but feel Austrian | Education | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jez4o7 )
decimation: ... my mother tongue so I show them this card. It drives me mad. I call this linguistic imperialism."
decimation: why do they get to have their 'own identity'? > "Bolzano has Italy's highest GDP per capita, according to figures from Italy's National Statistics Office. Locals move around on bikes even when it rains and are proud of showing-off to the world Ötzi the Iceman, a mummy found in the glaciers close to Austria."
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mircea_popescu: Of course, this took a terrible toll on society. Here is what Putin had to say on the subject of “red terror”: “Think of the hostages who were shot during the civil war, the destruction of entire social strata—the clergy, the prosperous peasants, the Cossacks. Such tragedies have recurred more than once during the history of mankind. And it always happened when initially attractive but ultimately empty ideals w
mircea_popescu: ere raised above the main value—the value of human life, above the rights and liberties of man. For our country this is especially tragic, because the scale was colossal. Thousands, millions of people were destroyed, sent to concentration camps, shot, tortured to death. And these were primarily people who had their own opinions, who weren't afraid to voice them. These were the most effective people—the flower of th
mircea_popescu: e nation. Even after many years we feel the effect of this tragedy on ourselves. We must do a great deal to make sure that this is never forgotten.”
mircea_popescu: Given that the price is so high, perhaps it would be better after all if we just sat quietly, allowed the rich get richer as the poor get poorer, watched listlessly as the environment got completely destroyed by capitalist industrialists in blind pursuit of profit, and eventually curled up, kissed our sweet asses good-bye and died?
mircea_popescu: somehow orlov doesn't feel compelled to go "check out schmuckin, going over to the euro tune of human rights"
mircea_popescu: not because it wouldn't be consistent with the piece so far, and with his verbiage so far. but why then ?
mircea_popescu: fucking russian inferiority complex. "oh, europe is doing something stupid ? we will do THE SAME STUPID THING IN OUR OWN WAY!!11"
mircea_popescu: let's make a russian union run by russian bureaucrats with the capital at ruxelles!
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pete_dushenski: why not bruxelles ? hard to beat the chocolate there.
mircea_popescu: quite the question.
mircea_popescu: from what i hear putin's been asked this a lot by the various oligarchs
mircea_popescu: "2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: dude has nfi how shit works does he.
mircea_popescu: "o herp, we are flooding europe with fake euros. can you break a 500 ???"
mircea_popescu: somehow the "i am not a revolutionary, here are my opinions on how that works" does not give him any pause whatsoever. "i'm a virgin, here's some songs about fucking i wrote". because why ?
mircea_popescu: rotten fucking pseudo-civilisation of nothing. let's commentate commentary!
pete_dushenski: lol. y'know, just in case any actual revolutionaries are reading orlov and needing fatherly advice from someone with no skin in the game.
mats: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213 ☟︎
assbot: mongo-java-driver/ConnectionStatus.java at 1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759 · mongodb/mongo-java-driver · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JuVzAY )
pete_dushenski: because being raised by charlatanic economists and the like have trained idjits to seek advice from tards with 'no conflicts of interest'
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i know, right ?!
mircea_popescu: that's EXACTLY what actual revolutionaries are thinking right now. "i wonder if there's some schmuck on a google blog with opinions. let me check!"
pete_dushenski: "oh, you think i should buy $goog even though you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole ? ok !"
mircea_popescu: mats what am i looking at ?
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, how comes the commodity ticker widget, kakobrekla ?
mircea_popescu: 1 in 10 failures don't get reported ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208662 << this is to me personally the most interesting point. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 14:39:00; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i
mircea_popescu: i know from directly verified experimental fact that properly chained and beaten they DO work. the spark to work and be smart and everything's not lost.
mircea_popescu: now, will large herds of worthless schmucks be turnable into an actual population ? i grant it seems dubious.
mircea_popescu: and who's gonna bother with training them individually.
mircea_popescu: but then again - shoot all the males, keep the females under 20ish that suck it enthusiastically has always been the procedure
mircea_popescu: perhaps for a very good reason.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208669 << by this logic turkey exceeds italy and greece combined ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 14:46:29; pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there.
mats: mircea_popescu: a technique for preventing resource exhaustion in a weird place
mircea_popescu: (yes, most of the ruins of roman antiquity are in turkey, not europe)
pete_dushenski: and there's no shortage of production capability in turkey atm.
pete_dushenski: too bad germany let the istanbul slip through their fingers a decade ago.
Adlai: holy textwall
phf: berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work" ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "Apple Inc said it is experiencing some issues with its App Store, Apple Music, iTunes Store and some other services. The company did not provide details but said only some users were affected." << qntra not alone.
mod6: !up ascii_field
mod6: so last 24 hours or so I've been working on getting an automated testing framework setup for this forthcoming release. I've got one scenario working (simple one). Here's what it kinda looks like - although this isn't the entire code, there is a module I left out for now. http://dpaste.com/32GZH0A.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1g255V4 )
mod6: With some effort up front I might be able to automate the ~20 or so scenarios that i've sketched out for the release. Could save all of us a lot of time by installing/emerging a few things on gentoo and then just running these tests instead of having to do all the testing manually.
mod6: We'll see where it goes and if I run into too many problems.
mod6: But as far as cucumber, even if I have issues with the steps (so far it's been very easy), if I write out the scenarios in the feature, it should be a decent testing guide in itself.
mod6: Of course, there will actually be a separate, more formal testing guide that I'll create also.
mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: When I do get around to drafting up all of the scenarios, I'll put that in here as well, maybe you guys can think of other tests that I hvaen't thought of yet. Or edge cases. etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00054509 = 11.7194 BTC [-]
ascii_field: so tx spam is back.
ascii_field: aaaand
ascii_field: the 'let's make the backbone lose bitcoin packetz' thing is also back
ascii_field: currently targeting my new node
ascii_field: (or rather, to be more specific, appears to be active on the corner of the net where the latte resides)
ascii_field: same deal as was tested on mircea_popescu's node last month
ascii_field: socket lays open, but silent
ascii_field: eventually peers mark node as 'misbehaving' and killfile it
ascii_field: *the latter
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208802 << ahahaha yes ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 16:46:50; phf: berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work"
ascii_field: !s butugychag
assbot: 23 results for 'butugychag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butugychag
ascii_field: !s судьбы моей рычаг
assbot: 0 results for 'судьбы моей рычаг' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B1%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B3
ascii_field: damn
ascii_field: disconnecting node socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 ☟︎
ascii_field: etc, etc
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208779 << epic ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 16:31:12; mats: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21196 @ 0.00056682 = 12.0143 BTC [+]
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 << mircea_popescu has a post about just this! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"
ascii_field: phf: http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece
assbot: The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kj5xrS )
phf: !up ascii_field
phf: re situation of greece, i think i missed that one somehow
phf: thanks
fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLERL4_SveI
assbot: News 8 at 6pm - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2b10m )
phf: https://vimeo.com/25479104 has some shots of butugychag around 24:05, though the whole documentary is interesting, done by a shalamov fan in early 90s
assbot: Колымская командировка on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2bgbH )
ascii_field: i think i saw this, aha
mod6: ascii_field: what's your best block height?
ascii_field: where?
mod6: your node that you were speaking about ^
ascii_field: 365587 - three blocks away from where it was turned on
ascii_field: (after loading chain externally)
mod6: oh
ascii_field: it gets thousands of these 'silent' connection attempts
ascii_field: every hour or two - manages to snarf a block, yes
mod6: but not enough to keep up then obv.
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: once in a while, even gets tx
ascii_field: for a minute or two at a stretch
ascii_field: then falls back into these 'socket closed'
ascii_field: open/close, open/close
ascii_field: the bitcoind AND the os are bitwise-identical to those of another node presently running happily.
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00054479 = 2.7784 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17930 @ 0.0005447 = 9.7665 BTC [-]
fluffypony: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/ ☟︎
fluffypony: lol
thestringpuller: ~>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00056845 = 6.3496 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: in other news, my stator has caught up with the net at large
ascii_field: congrats ben_vulpes!
ben_vulpes: "blocks" : 366328,
mod6: yay!
trinque: anybody ever tried building against libressl yet?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo has
trinque: I noticed it was forked from the version of openssl in use
ben_vulpes: that's next on my list
trinque: neat, I tried too, ran into some issue, but was going to try again
trinque: so I'll continue on fiddling with it
ascii_field: in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast'
ascii_field: doesn't even need the cable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056976 = 1.9942 BTC [+]
solrodar: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206079 << I was using the OS package from Ubuntu 14.02, which is boost version 1.54 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 00:40:38; ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost fails to compile << i actually ran into this when hacking against solrodar's clang + graphviz callgraph thinger
solrodar: as well as generating the call graph, I was able to actually build bitcoind against that version, though I didn't test it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00054166 = 23.6164 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208689 << he's getting a lot better at this isn't he. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:01:01; asciilifeform: 'you totalled it'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208693 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:02:22; phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but
assbot: The logical impossibility, and the moral untenability, of forgiveness on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO9OE6 )
mircea_popescu: works out.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece/#selection-31.119-31.232 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"
assbot: The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COaidh )
mircea_popescu: clearly, the sect is working.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208830 << so now you get to see the other end of it, for your records. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 17:31:20; ascii_field: disconnecting node socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 ☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: both ends look quite alike
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: im sure it's all just a coincidence.
ascii_field: socket opens, but packets drown in the bermuda triangle
mircea_popescu: it often happens for very complex systems to behave in highly consistent ways with a clearly identifiable beneficiary all by themselves.
mircea_popescu: this is how the us budget is constructed, at any rate.
ascii_field: i warned that the buggerz will do exactly this
ascii_field: yearz ago
mircea_popescu: yeah. but warning there's gonna be an eclypse is not quite the same as watching the eclypse over a beer, out on a terrace.
mircea_popescu: wave at the public,
ascii_field: aha.
mircea_popescu waves at the public
mircea_popescu: hello public. look at all the things that aren't happening!
mircea_popescu: and also have perfectly simple and so forth explanations and etc.
mircea_popescu: phf where you from anyway ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208865 << shit i had no idea kenyans wore clothes ?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 18:18:01; fluffypony: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f65e5d2baebac5a56b3113326dd85795/tumblr_n3e4zvTJtm1sqs58ao1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CObOMA )
phf: mircea_popescu: moscow
mircea_popescu: o hey. living there ?
phf: no, not anymore, not for a while actually, but not as long as ascii seems like. i live in philadelphia and about 1/3 of time in dc
thestringpuller: !up assbot
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
trinque: ben_vulpes: you guys going to oscon?
kakobrekla: some aficionado http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html
assbot: Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm )
ascii_field: kakobrekla: iirc it is in the log
kakobrekla: !s http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html
assbot: Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm )
assbot: 0 results for 'http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.righto.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fbitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: undo then
phf: my moscow is gone anyway, 90ые are over, so it's all aparatchiks tightening the screws. and i don't know anyone "on the pipeline"
phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3fsSL4Bw9w&t=0m15s
assbot: Nabokov and the moment of truth - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1COgDFP )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00055488 = 11.2363 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis << Generally before crushing trash car's is held for some time and parts sold to mechanics who then sell to their customers for half price of "new" stock
BingoBoingo: <trinque> anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? << LibreSSL 2.0 fully synced in wild, LibreSSL 2.1 Kept up as of this morning will probably try a full sync eventually ☟︎☟︎
trinque: cool.
BingoBoingo: Turns out it only takes about 5 hours on this machine with a puny mobile processor to compile Kernel, Userland, and Xenocara in order to upgrade from release to -stable as well
trinque: not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and openbsd usage patterns
trinque tries a tcpkill on deedbot's irc
BingoBoingo: processor is amd e350 so takes ~25-33% CPU utilization around the clock just keeping up with Bitcoin when sync'd
trinque: hm, so why would this thing still think it's connected on the other end?
trinque: ah there we go
trinque: unix has its warts, but the things you can cobble together with the pipe...
trinque: one more try, then I'll call it good
hanbot: BingoBoingo / cazalla , qntra submission: http://dpaste.com/2T9SCHJ
assbot: dpaste: 2T9SCHJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1COr0JH )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: qntra points to a very quick-loading 404 now
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Looks good
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Can we get that window to post and archive soon?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.phylomemetic-tree.de/spackeria/daily/%23spackeria.03-24.log << http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PnN )
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PEb )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.whoismind.com/email/bXM-schmidt-system.de.html << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E
assbot: ms@schmidt-system.de - Email Data ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs5kM )
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs6VL )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/cyco << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C214323FE8F5A745404185908E2CFAB4D18087093B71CDBC40C01FA883C060D4
assbot: cyco (Christoph Leimbrock) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsm79 )
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsmnO )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ^^^ anyone who has time to carry on in this pattern, is encouraged.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
danielpbarron: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKdtsfaUwAA1V6_.jpg << reddit meet-up
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CU5WBh )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39627 @ 0.00056343 = 22.327 BTC [+] {5}
cazalla: danielpbarron, here's a better shot http://i.imgur.com/Ob7rq.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlchJ )
mats: lol
decimation: asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night?
decimation: also some amusing reading: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html " One of the particular problems that often comes up is this: if you have a piece of code producing data, and another piece of code consuming it, which should be the caller and which should be the callee? ... In The Art of Computer Programming, Donald Knuth presents a solution to this sort of problem. His answer is to throw away the stack ...
assbot: Coroutines in C ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlYLE )
decimation: ... concept completely. Stop thinking of one process as the caller and the other as the callee, and start thinking of them as cooperating equals. ... This is very nice in theory, but in practice you can only do it in assembly language, because no commonly used high level language supports the coroutine call primitive. Languages like C depend utterly on their stack-based structure, so whenever control passes from any function to ...
decimation: ... any other, one must be the caller and the other must be the callee. So if you want to write portable code, this technique is at least as impractical as the Unix pipe solution. "
decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' ☟︎
Adlai: bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock
Adlai: gradually modern "languages" (glorified syntax processors) are waking up to the reality recognized decades ago
Adlai: doesn't mean that reality didn't exist in the terim
mircea_popescu: werd.
trinque: maybe I'm an idiot, but you can do coroutine patterns in many high level languages
trinque: perhaps not as efficiently as someone thinking about hardware wants
trinque: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4411
assbot: Delimited continuations for C/C++ | Lambda the Ultimate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQ9N9 )
trinque: actually that one uses asm
trinque: https://code.google.com/p/libconcurrency << uses jmp and stack-fiddling magic, doesn't appear to have any asm
assbot: libconcurrency - A scalable concurrency library for C - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQteI )