mircea_popescu: "total drug sales climbed to $300B (more spending on drugs)."
mircea_popescu: in 2009, the 300mn strong us spent 300 bn on PSYCH MEDS.
mircea_popescu: ie, an honest living, EACH
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PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306726 << No underscore :)☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 23:08:32; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Peter_L ty for that submission.
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1306728 << having the guidelines is nice☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 23:08:58; BingoBoingo: ^Does this mean actually having submission guidelines now is increasing submitter confidence?
PeterL: On a possibly unrelated note, I am back to being unemployed again
PeterL: The last position I took was a "temp-to-hire", I thought the hire part would come with a significant pay increase, it didn't so I walked away
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mircea_popescu: why not ask upfront lol
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deedbot-: [Trilema] The peak of insanity. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-peak-of-insanity/
mircea_popescu: i gotta spam this.
mircea_popescu: "Why didn't you publish this post earlier, when the story first came out????"
mircea_popescu: You mean because the further away we get from the hot news cycle, the less you're interested in the truth? And so apathy allows it to stand as true, because it all seems plausible (face validity, bitches.) That's social science for you. But the answer to your question is simple: I don't get paid to criticize studies. I have a job and a life and an alcohol problem that doesn't leave much room for blog posts.
mircea_popescu: If you don't like something going on in politics, there are ways to voice that. But looking deep into a "scientific" concept requires a level of sophistication which, if you possess it, means you're probably busy with a day job. So you have neither the time nor energy to dissect articles in Pediatrics-- and, anyway, no forum. I, at least have a semi-popular blog; but even so I'm subject to the same time and monetar
mircea_popescu: y constraints. If I need money for rum, do I spend an extra hour at work, or write a post?
mircea_popescu: Had it not been for the little money I do get from this blog, maybe I would not have written this post at all, because... why bother? And so all you are left with is their dogma. Search the internet, the Letters To The Editor. Anyone else saying what I just said in this post? You may not agree with my post, but you are nevertheless better for having read and considered it. I'm not saying I'm the only one who though
mircea_popescu: t it; I'm saying that those who thought it, or could have thought it, are busy with other things, and the people who should have thought of it physically can't.
mircea_popescu: What do you think would happen if the NIMH paid astrophysicists to look into psychiatry? Ain't never gonna find out, they have their own problems. Specialization doesn't mean I'm the best, it means stay off my lawn. Since I/us/astrophysicists don't have the resources to publish at all/as fast as Pediatrics or CNN, they get to decide what's true.
mircea_popescu: The people who get paid to look at ADHD are all unanimously on the same side, that's what conveys the illusion of objectivity. Pretending to be divided pro- or anti-Pharma, or "dopamine hypothesis" vs. "noradrenergic hypothesis" makes it look like there's a lot of vigorous debate, but debating what color is a ki-ran just means ki-rans are real.
mircea_popescu: Please don't misunderstand me, I am not blogging for money. I'm showing you that so much of what you think you know, what you think is fact, is established not by the force of evidence but by the absence of resources for the opposition. The ones with the money are all unanimously in agreement.
mircea_popescu: So yes, I would have liked to have posted day one; but I would have liked it better if someone else on the inside said, "umm, wait a minute? Really? We're going to CNN with this?"
mircea_popescu: so much word.
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306752 << seems like a very basic thing: the 'hersheyization' of sex ('everybody gets a wife') inevitably leads to 'If you think it looks stupid when a 40 year old man buys a convertible or has to go find himself or chases a 20 year old intern' and a caste of priests tasked with convincing chumps that ~this~ is - somehow - sanity.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2015 02:21:54; deedbot-: [Trilema] The peak of insanity. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-peak-of-insanity/
asciilifeform: and hard to imagine that tlp did not realize this.
mircea_popescu: interestingly, the focus of hate for ballas seems to be this Nassir Ghaemi douche. i put him on the list, expecting who knows what wizened old ass.
asciilifeform: but he's a heretical priest, not an atheistical one
mircea_popescu: mnope. turns out... another bharara
mircea_popescu: Born in Tehran, Iran, he immigrated to the US at the age of 5 with his family and was raised in McLean, Virginia by his father Kamal Ghaemi MD, a neurosurgeon and neurologist, and his mother Guity Kamali Ghaemi, an art historian. A graduate of McLean High School (1984), he received a BA in history from George Mason University (Fairfax, Virginia, 1986).
mircea_popescu: http://www.nassirghaemi.com/images/Nassir-210.jpg >> looks the job, too, and put so much effort into self-promotion you think he's the next martha stewart.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xpghv6 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he is huh.
asciilifeform: thinkaboutit.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: but i imagine he did somehow not realise this.
asciilifeform: nobody quite cancelled christianity. because this, this particular thing, is a very christian one.
mircea_popescu: it is the only christian one.
mircea_popescu: everythiong else is imported chinese bags.
asciilifeform: dar al-islam does not have this particular problem.
asciilifeform: (has others, which appear when you pull this jumper off. but not this one)
mircea_popescu: it is , to me, a very curious thing, this.
asciilifeform: but the basic job of the priest is much the same everywhere - to convince his patients that the things they cannot have, they do not want, and 'no sane person would want'
mircea_popescu: i come from a land where intelligence is luxury, and i gaze upon this land where intelligence is merely alternative boring in amazement.
asciilifeform: luxury ?
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: but how
mircea_popescu: just so!
mircea_popescu: "you have to come to school every day!" but but mircea hasn't showed up this month!" "i am affraid of him."
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: http://xkcd.com/1594 << not entirely unrelated.
assbot: xkcd: Human Subjects ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xpgxuc )
mircea_popescu: not "oh, you finished the work, now do this stgupid shit" like us
asciilifeform: this - yes.
mircea_popescu: see, equality of chance, not of result.
mircea_popescu: in my world, all kids are equal : gotta do this much work.
mircea_popescu: in the nazi us, all kids have to have the same result : spend 50 minutes fucking with x.
mircea_popescu: fuck that shit.
mircea_popescu: If you gave Aristotle ten thousand unplugged computers of different makes and models, no matter how systematically he analyzed them he'd not only be wrong, he'd be misleadingly wrong. He would find that they were related by shape-- rectangles/squares; by color-- black, white, or tan. Size/weight; material.
mircea_popescu: Aristotle was smart, but there is nothing he could ever learn about computers from his investigations. His science is all wrong for what he was doing. But Aristotle would think he knew a terrible amount about computers from his studies. In fact, he'd probably be considered an expert. "To fix this computer, we need to make it more rectangular. Get chopping, malaka."
mircea_popescu: wbahgahahja omfg.
mircea_popescu: for the record, i do this regularly.
mircea_popescu: so does any half-ass decent teacher. give a kid a pile of unplugged computers, pick the best one.
mircea_popescu: then beat them for picking a fucking pentium.
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mircea_popescu: mock them, hurtfully. "what, you think it's 1999 ?"
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adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/19HFTMB.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jXWc0a )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
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punkman: https://blog.fuzzing-project.org/25-Heap-overflow-and-endless-loop-in-exfatfsck-exfat-utils.html
assbot: Heap overflow and endless loop in exfatfsck / exfat-utils | The Fuzzing Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1k0mRcH )
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=628eVJgHD6I
assbot: Wittgenstein: This is a very pleasant pineapple - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1k0nDXi )
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punkman: http://people.umass.edu/phil335-klement-2/tlp/tlp.html the other tlp
assbot: Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus ... ( http://bit.ly/204pj2U )
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mircea_popescu: punkman i always wondered if he actually deliberately chose his nick that way
mircea_popescu: and for the daily lol, http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/10/new-material-promises-nsa-proof-wallpaper/123066/
assbot: A New Material Promises NSA-Proof Wallpaper - Defense One ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mh0OLO )
mircea_popescu: by now the stupid "reporting" thing is so much a kabuki of its own you can often separate it from the actual event it parasitizes
mircea_popescu: sort of like once shit dries enough, you can just pick it out of the hair of the African in question, leaving behind "clean" hair.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0a4a7cef8f528ddbaf0c3255c16d89d1/tumblr_no67etsB3p1rzzxego1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1H106uF )
mircea_popescu: and from the word! department :
mircea_popescu: "The question that they are answering isn't "does environment matter more than genetics?" It's a more subtle, sneaky, social-policy questionr: "since we now know that genetics isn't as deterministic as we hoped, is there something else that we can focus on which is equally out of our control? What about the goings-on in utero? So that the environment factors matter only at that time, not later? Then we can safely
mircea_popescu: say that behavior is "innate" and out of our control, while still leaving us the door to intervene in people's lives for their benefit."
mircea_popescu: No one in the behavioral sciences discovers something, and then constructs policy recommendations. "We learned that people are like this, so..." It's the other way around. The policies come first; the money is spent on the research that supports them. In questions about evolutionary psychology and behavior, the question they want to answer is always of the form, "how is it not the individual's fault, but we can medd
mircea_popescu: le anyway?""
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/06/are_certain_behaviors--_and_jo.html << excellent article altogether, should be mandatory hs reading.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Are Certain Behaviors-- And Jobs-- More Masculine? And Out Of Our Control? ... ( http://bit.ly/1H13MfJ )
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306838 <<<>>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2014#951694 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2015 13:17:38; mircea_popescu: and for the daily lol, http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/10/new-material-promises-nsa-proof-wallpaper/123066/
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2014 00:01:28; asciilifeform: emp arms powered by chemical explosives are 'sexy', suck in grant money like nothing else, even deployed (!) by usa in gulf war 1 - taking a tv broadcast antenna out of action for a few hours (they had to change an amp)
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: that said, grounded wallpaper would go a long way.
asciilifeform: but doesn't have to be made of unobtainium-shitanium alloy.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, grounded windows are cheap and easy to make, just put mesh in between the two layers of plastic)
mircea_popescu: https://in.news.yahoo.com/unexpected-discovery-comet-contains-alcohol-182309427.html << FINALLY!
assbot: In unexpected discovery, comet contains alcohol, sugar - Yahoo News India ... ( http://bit.ly/1i3uNbS )
mircea_popescu: poate-i vodca! poate-i vin! poate-i pipi de rechin!
punkman: mircea_popescu: or maybe that's how he chose the quote
mircea_popescu: or that yah
punkman: http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-October/026841.html
assbot: [Cryptography] Other obvious issues being ignored? ... ( http://bit.ly/1S2F6dt )
asciilifeform: punkman: it is in the logz
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1298738 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 16:32:27; asciilifeform: 'I don't care if your language lawyers tell you gcc is right. THIS WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET HACKED.' << this is not hundred percent idiotic. the c programming language is specified in such a way, with sufficiently pervasive 'undefined behaviours' and nonstandardized but inescapable routines, that it is ~physically impossible~ to program in it as-specified
punkman: asciilifeform: I found this interesting "the STACK UB analyser found that UB code occurs in 40% of all Debian Wheezy packages (that use C)."
asciilifeform: but the basic lesson, which is for some reason hidden behind a thick veil of shitsmoke, is that c is not built to be reasoned about mechanically, ergo relying on the compiler to save you from yourself is retarded.
deedbot-: [Trilema] A lingering suspicion. - http://trilema.com/2015/a-lingering-suspicion/
asciilifeform: and the notion that it is somehow possible to program in 'strictly defined' c is a deliberate lie
asciilifeform: it is not possible.
asciilifeform: not for any proggy written outside of a primary school.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306871 << re: cars in usa: yes, ~everyone~ is expected to drive. something, anything with wheels. even cripples - in most places here you just need one arm and one leg. there are special shops that customize the cars for this, i used to work next to one.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2015 15:57:23; deedbot-: [Trilema] A lingering suspicion. - http://trilema.com/2015/a-lingering-suspicion/
asciilifeform: even bums will often 'drive' a motorized wheelchair thing (provided by usg, through some byzantine and ancient pension thing)
asciilifeform: this sometimes leads to interesting contradictions. everywhere in usa there are strict laws against drunken driving, but if you go into a suburb you will notice pub after pub, each of them accessible ~strictly~ by car
asciilifeform: (with very few exceptions, no 'respectable' person in a u.s. suburb ever sets foot inside of a bus)
punkman: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/students-new-ride-after-dwi-arrest-a-barbie-jeep/
assbot: Student's new ride after DWI arrest? A "Barbie Jeep" - CBS News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NsRjq0 )
punkman: oh that's in the logs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.
mircea_popescu: so apparently there's a hurricane headed for mexico that's well twice the size of katrina
mod6: I've been to that place many times: Puerto Vallarta.
mircea_popescu: aha
mod6: nice town. probably will take a long time to rebuild. they had a hurricane that hit back in like 2002 or 2003 that hit them pretty hard, probably not nearly as bad as this though
mircea_popescu: yeah looks monstrous.
mod6: yeah, gigantic cloud mass.
mircea_popescu: in random internet lulz, http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=581.0
assbot: Goons Tell us Why Reddit is Bad, Describe SomethingAwful.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1i3Vtt1 )
asciilifeform: l0l launchpad mcquack
asciilifeform: in-joke. character was based, by some accounts, on john mccain
asciilifeform: (crashed every machine he climbed into)
mircea_popescu: but those accounts only popped up once mccain was in the news, whereas the cartoon looks like silver age/HB
asciilifeform: aha. but m's flying career was long over by the time launchpad appeared.
asciilifeform: at any rate, legend.
mircea_popescu: the fact that republicans have a knack for this is kinda strange. recall the bush record ? BOTH of them ?
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you ever saw hot shots, the base commander there is also a sort of mccain/mcduck
asciilifeform: simple explanation
asciilifeform: flying was (is?) considered a 'blueblood' thing
asciilifeform: the only peculiar thing about being an admiral's son and another admiral's grandson is that you get to crash machine after machine
asciilifeform: instead of 'flying the mahogany bomber' after the first one.
mircea_popescu: i don't even see much of a problem with tha.t
asciilifeform: no?
asciilifeform: how about the idiot brit officers with their purchased commissions, leading 'charges of the light brigade' one after another ?
asciilifeform: eventually summed to zero
mircea_popescu: how about the "i know you've won the war mr wellington, but what have you done for us lately???"
mircea_popescu: also eventually sums to zero.
mircea_popescu: in any case the reference is particularly weak - the officers in question ACTUALLY LED THE CHARGE. ie, were there.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/17bOit3.gif << notbad.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1i3Xjdx )
mircea_popescu: apparently "biotruther" is a word, now. what libertards call people who know biology that's not been approved by the global warming committee
asciilifeform: see also 'hatefact'
mircea_popescu: is that irl or just meta ?
asciilifeform: ;;google hatefact
gribble: 10 Hatefacts for Those Who Hate Facts - Taki's Magazine: <http://takimag.com/article/10_hatefacts_for_those_who_hate_facts_gavin_mcinnes/print>; Alternative Right: FIVE HISTORICAL HATEFACTS: <http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2014/03/five-historical-hatefacts.html>; Stuff Black People Don't Like - SBPDL: #62. "Hate Facts": (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ie, do the idiots use it themselves or is it just a fuck me
shinohai: Good afternoon, #bitcoin-assets. Anyone here care to make a recommendation for a replacement of my lappy that just died?
asciilifeform: shinohai: plenty of unrecommendations
shinohai: so I don't fuck up and buy a bad machine again
asciilifeform: shinohai: THERE IS NO TOLERABLE LAPTOP
asciilifeform spent many, many k-usd establishing this
mircea_popescu: ibm thinkpad.
mircea_popescu: 2004 edition.
shinohai: Me too. I bought two of these shiity Dell i3's last year. One died within 6 months, other died yesterday.
asciilifeform had this very box
asciilifeform: but i assumed that 1024x768 and a pen-800 is not shinohai's idea of usable.
asciilifeform: the other thing is that batteries are not to be had for vintage lappy
mircea_popescu: you kidding ? i bought dozens.
shinohai: Buy old batteries, zap with welder. win.
asciilifeform: and they hold a charge ?
asciilifeform: these things sucked donkey balls when they were new..
asciilifeform: (1-2 hrs.)
mircea_popescu: ~4.
asciilifeform: 4 in first month of life, and if screen is at 10%, and cpu is idle...
shinohai: So if anyone needs good touchscreens, I got 'em lol.
mircea_popescu: so buy 50
mircea_popescu: and throw them in the regular garbage, too. teach the plebs a lesson.
asciilifeform: li ion cells age on the shelf
mircea_popescu: the chinese keep making them. seriously, the batteries i bought were so much younger than the laptop it'd have been pedophillia.
mircea_popescu: luckily the battery goes into the laptop rather than the other way around os all good.
asciilifeform: anyway requirements of 'laptop for mircea_popescu's missile launch codes' and for civilian use are not quite same.
shinohai: I rather expected something to go wrong. The day I get my sdr in the mail, lappy takes a shit.
asciilifeform: a year or so ago i chronicled (see logz!) my attempts to get a toshiba 'libretto 100ct' vintage ultraportable going with something like a reasonable unix
asciilifeform: i had one when i was in school, and it worked great. but today - nope. because go and try to install freebsd 4.7 - where do you get the packages? gonna patch by hand ?
asciilifeform: spend whole life ?
asciilifeform: ended up with barely usable openbsd. 500mSec or so delay on fopen() !!! because no ram left over (from the 64M) for disk caching
asciilifeform: because apparently there IS NO SUCH THING as unbloated unix to be had ANYWHERE today
shinohai: So finish your OS asciilifeform and save us from this package maintenance hell.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i don't do x86 os.
shinohai: :(
asciilifeform: shinohai: do you know the story of the spittoon ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rG1TxJt2
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJyjqF )
shinohai reads
shinohai: well I daresay *that* was an interesting tale asciilifeform
asciilifeform: shinohai: understand how it applies ?
shinohai: I may need to mull it over moar ...
shinohai: If I can avoid drinking the whole damned spitoon, I would try to avoid it.
asciilifeform: shinohai: thing is, anything to do with 'i want a WORKING OS with WORKING PROGRAMS' is the entire spittoon.
asciilifeform: it is relatively simple if you are mircea_popescu and the only thing that needs to run is lynx and gpg 1.4
shinohai was just busting asciilifeform's balls
mircea_popescu: acrtually this laptop runs firefox, vlc etc
asciilifeform: but does it ~build~ them
asciilifeform: BUILD
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: dynamic, but sure.
mircea_popescu: not that it has to, but for curiosity.
mircea_popescu: takes a day.
asciilifeform: i was actually not speaking of laptops, but explaining to shinohai that 'make a usable system from scratch with no modern code' is a spittoon
mircea_popescu: not like it's useful anyway, the difference between "run this binary" and "build" is absent in thos context
asciilifeform: as for firefox, it is barely usable (much less buildable) on my desktop iron
asciilifeform: so i can't fathom what kind of masochist would run it on an old pen
mircea_popescu: but it's firefox 16 or some shit. 11 ? i dont even recall.
asciilifeform: (thing leaks perhaps a gb/hr)
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha then it's the one that lets arbitrary www load arbitrary files from your disk.
asciilifeform: (every firefox until a few wks ago, known.)
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: it's not a secure machine or anything, watch movies in bed off its 10gb hdd
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: so this sheds no light on the building of general-purpose box.
mircea_popescu: yes it does. a general purpose box is the next best thing
mircea_popescu: after a general-gendered wife.
asciilifeform: ('general purpose' to be understood as a box on which one might, e.g., write code.)
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever wrote a trilema article on it.
mircea_popescu is very peculiar about kbds. laptop kbd no good.
asciilifeform: and that atrocity in the desk photo is ?!
mircea_popescu: strangely, yes, that one's fine.
asciilifeform: did it even... have keys?
mircea_popescu: nope.
asciilifeform: looked mighty flat
mircea_popescu: but i disover the problem with me actually is SIZE. as in, gotta be this long.
asciilifeform: aha or where to put hands.
mircea_popescu: ya that too. "oh you could put the laptop on a table" well fuck you then, i could jkuist use a kbd ?
asciilifeform: a good deal of modern hardware looks as if it were designed for inhabitants of some other planet
asciilifeform: perhaps where they have tentacles.
mircea_popescu: Planet Kindergarten
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/bc7db6cc510a0b6b1a6010fc419cb236/tumblr_nkhjav369P1taid38o1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZIqG2 )
asciilifeform: idk how mircea_popescu does it. typing on a kbd with no springs is like fucking a surface with no hole
asciilifeform: yes, it is possible... but borders on redefinition
mircea_popescu: i was corrupted by easy credit.
asciilifeform: l0lwat
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just, somehow, they dun bother me.
asciilifeform notices that 90+% of traditional gentoo mirrors in his records are dead
mircea_popescu: obsolete technologye.
asciilifeform: 99% of a typical build time on my box is just churning through dead mirrors.
mircea_popescu: use deedbot ?
asciilifeform: complicated. most aren't 100% dead
asciilifeform: just missing essentials, selectively.
asciilifeform: and not one is 100% healthy.
asciilifeform: nor even 50.
mircea_popescu: quite why.
mircea_popescu: take the time sometime and make the mirror.
asciilifeform: and get the tarballs where ?
asciilifeform: time machine ?
asciilifeform: i suppose one possible place would be my own disk...
asciilifeform puts this on list of what to do with the replacement for dulap, when such appears
asciilifeform: i cannot escape the observation that i am keeping alive a very sad and sickly thing
asciilifeform: but there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR IT
asciilifeform: and much of the disease is not specific to this one linux variant but to the entire ecosystem
asciilifeform: gentoo simply appears to be the worst-looking horse in the glue factory on account of not having a protective coating of bullshit
asciilifeform: (namely, in other distros you are not trying to ~build~ the world, and are not thus exposed to the fact that most of it is not deterministically buildable any more without generous helpings of blood magic)
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/06/another_diagnosis_of_schizophr.html >> quite worth a read.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Another Diagnosis Of Schizophrenia, This Time With Cats ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZJvO5 )
mircea_popescu: "so toxoplasmosis is basically a conspiracy against rat's best interests ?" "no. it's basically a selected accident. all the other accidents that didn't close the cycle didn't live to get a name."?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70432 @ 0.00053239 = 37.4973 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: tangentially related, i have done the mistake of emerging pypy and enabling it systemwide
jurov: since there is no gento pypy maintainer, it's running into dep problems
jurov: more and more
jurov: but have not noticed any mirror problems
mircea_popescu: in other news, intel finally teased out tlp's email. if anyone cares, he's 52. etc.
mats: morning qts
ben_vulpes: wb mats
mats: thx m8
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20061 @ 0.00053834 = 10.7996 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: what's a qt ?
mats: cutie.
mircea_popescu: o hey.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44282 @ 0.00054173 = 23.9889 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: in other news, finding http://33.media.tumblr.com/41f654aec95486dfcf3d548c496de998/tumblr_nqjcrdlQRa1r2svjro1_500.gif erotic
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJRtwt )
mircea_popescu: correlates with a high probability of being a dangerous pedophile.
thestringpuller: that looks extremely difficult,.
mircea_popescu: not if she's 9.
thestringpuller: that girl doesn't look 9
thestringpuller: (looks are deceptive etc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00054224 = 13.7729 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/07/why_a_story_about_russian_spie_1.html << i lollered.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Why A Story About Russian Spies Who Use Facebook? ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJSLaX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34097 @ 0.00054257 = 18.5 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: trinque: deedbot.org is not showing the latest deed
adlai: (which had to be submitted twice)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76100 @ 0.0005393 = 41.0407 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: adlai: might have to do with whenever the last block happened
trinque: but I'll look at it
trinque: adlai: I only see you subitting something once
trinque: *submitting
adlai: !s http://dpaste.com/19HFTMB.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jXWc0a )
assbot: 2 results for 'http://dpaste.com/19HFTMB.txt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdpaste.com%2F19HFTMB.txt
trinque: right, when you say "had to be submitted twice" I expected that it didn't accept one of them
adlai: first time, it didn't deed at all; second time got notarized in block 380163, but doesn't show up on deedbot.org
trinque: btcd is barfing on the transaction for some reason
trinque: adlai: I'll figure it out, ping ya when I do
adlai: np
adlai: deedbot put the hash in the blockchain, assbot put the content in the cloud, what more does a man need?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7717 @ 0.0005393 = 4.1618 BTC [-] {2}
mats: silk boxers
trinque: adlai: he got ahead of himself and double-spent an output, then lost track of which output to use. I've fixed the db, and expect that he's back on track.
trinque: today I'm actually working on his replacement, which when complete I will provide sources. I'm starting from the bottom (stay online, keep your nick, no seriously) so do not know when it will be complete.
adlai: why not cannibalize existing works?
trinque: because that's what led to this.
trinque: I'm not doing it with duct tape this time
adlai: well you must be using some 'bedrock'
trinque: heh, if you have a proposal, make it!
trinque: every bot I've used, someone highly recommended it, and then I end up having to hit the thing with a wrench to do what I'd expect should come with the definition of "IRC bot"
adlai: cl-irc is good, it doesn't support sasl but you don't necessarily need that
trinque: by good, do you mean it will detect when freenode thinks it has not connected, but it has in fact reconnected?
trinque: and it will subsequently grab its nick back?
adlai: no, but you'll have an easier time building that with the condition system than if you're using $blub
trinque: yep, I am going to use CL
trinque: I've only been farting around yet, so I'll see if I like cl-irc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00054257 = 9.929 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61300 @ 0.00054339 = 33.3098 BTC [+] {4}
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306989 << i figured it was his eulora machine seeing as how the photo included a list of base prices for items commonly traded☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2015 18:57:10; asciilifeform: and that atrocity in the desk photo is ?!
kakobrekla: https://gcaptain.com/there-is-a-huge-backlog-of-ships-waiting-to-pass-through-the-panama-canal/ < increase the blocksize nao!!
assbot: There Is a Huge Backlog of Ships Waiting to Pass Through the Panama Canal - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuwjQu )
ben_vulpes: http://www.spacebuckets.com/materials << rails. takes 2.9 seconds to serve...a hobby site.
assbot: START YOUR JOURNEY | Space Buckets ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuwDPj )
ben_vulpes: remind me to rhapsodize about 'turbo links' some day.
asciilifeform: wawat
ben_vulpes: eh, pipe to haus is slow. still, nearly a whole second from my aws instance.
shinohai: https://loanbase.com/ <<< 3 points xD
assbot: Loanbase: Bitcoin Lending Done Right ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rux641 )
mircea_popescu: ahaha wut.
mircea_popescu: nothing says "done right" more than spurious name parasitism. really.
mircea_popescu: Mike - eyewear done right!
mircea_popescu: Bouboutin, hats done right!
mircea_popescu: Wenessy, breaks and shocks, done right!
mircea_popescu: come to tyhink abo0ut it, one could open a whole fast food chain / pizzeria call it DeLay
mircea_popescu: "It's not our fault - it's in the name!"
asciilifeform: crunchy frog (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: Sandy Beaches Brothels.
shinohai: lol @ crunchy frog
shinohai: Am I an asshole if I go there and get a loan then default ?
mircea_popescu: i would expect that is the default.
mircea_popescu: Bankrupt ? It's not your fault, it's default!
adlai: http://support.loanbase.com/hc/en-us/articles/202063482
assbot: When the loan purpose is building reputation, is it possible to withdraw the funds? – LoanBase Help Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ruxrn6 )
mircea_popescu: im not gonna click
adlai: tl;dr "no"
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/d4ace669ad744c1724c91318264797d0/tumblr_nt8hwwVTzu1tra78fo1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ruxy26 )
asciilifeform: wat
asciilifeform didn't know mircea_popescu went in for... this
mircea_popescu: in what ?
asciilifeform: whatever this is called.
mircea_popescu: loanbase ? trannyfucking ?
asciilifeform: the latter.
shinohai: There used to be a tranny pr0n site that accepted btc for subscriptions.
shinohai: I blew 0.1 buying subs for people I hate.
mircea_popescu: did it do anything ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't say i do, but what, it should be banished now ?
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: "I've rarely met an ADHD kid who sleeps enough, and I've never met an ADHD adult or adolescent who does. When a kid is sleep deprived, he gets hyper; they are too tired to be inhibited, too tired to exert self-control."
mircea_popescu: this is actually a very interesting theory.
shinohai: To each his/her own.
trinque: adlai: tried cl-irc, turned off my wifi until the test nick was disconnected on freenode's end, and connectedp still returns T on the cl-irc end
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/hz7j9hf << an equally-appealing photo i took today.
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuxXSb )
trinque: this is the kind of shit that drives me crazy
asciilifeform: the underside of my sorry hovel. turns out, the water hookup is THROUGH A RUBBER HOSE
asciilifeform: (center, by the support column)
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/oTRtC00 << left: the biggest spiders i've ever seen outside of a collection
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuxZJI )
asciilifeform: the white cables: 220v.
mats doesn't see any spiders
asciilifeform: on the wall.
mats: nvm.
mircea_popescu: !up Garmin
mircea_popescu: but where doesw the cock go ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you fucking nut.
mircea_popescu: those are crickets.
asciilifeform: but they don't crick..
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: defective!