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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135800 @ 0.00036917 = 50.1333 BTC [+] {4}
ben_vulpes: <shinohai> added to pr0nbot: https://i.imgur.com/g94RGlL.jpg << hardly porn
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RTumhJ )
williamdunne personally enjoys the teasy photos
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81057 @ 0.00036702 = 29.7495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00035839 = 3.333 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 198474 @ 0.00035777 = 71.008 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 286576 @ 0.00035199 = 100.8719 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46679 @ 0.00036702 = 17.1321 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: better pronz http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8f9s1WVGr1qj9dtwo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs29fP )
mircea_popescu: trinque cool!
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://mpex.co/assets/s.bbet-1F2489E8.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gs2fUR )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156275 << comment yes. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 21:11:27; jurov: what did you do comment (i could not find it) or trackback?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156346 << lol tell me about it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 22:17:56; mod6: too many different things I gotta get done first.
cazalla: williamdunne, leaves a bit to the imagination eh
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156390 << quite. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 22:35:12; trinque: seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space
mircea_popescu: that is exactly the point we're at - the collapse of "civilisation" won't even actually leave any sort of a hole.
decimation: that, and "it actually works"
decimation: the hole is constantly filled with chinese junk
mircea_popescu: which is how these things happen. it's not that the various people in the empire "left" the empire for the barbarians.
williamdunne: cazalla: Thats the one
mircea_popescu: it's that for anything but the verbiage - they didn't even know they were in an empire.
decimation: mircea_popescu: somewhere along the line people forgot how to make hydraulic concrete
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: you just add fly ash ?
decimation: nobody built concrete aquaducts again until long after rome fell into the hole
mircea_popescu: oh oh. i see whast you meant now :p
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156407 << word. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 22:49:55; trinque: I can probably obviate worrying about that by just trying to decode everything as utf-8
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156424 << lulzwut! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 22:59:07; scoopbot_revived: Protected: Bitcoin Exchanges breaking agreements; BitFinex edition! http://thethug.life/lessons-are-for-schmucks/
mircea_popescu: williamdunne did scoop just rape your securitits ?
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: It did indeed
williamdunne: I shall punish my slave for its disobedience
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdf1wz7eBc1rq6vz1o1_500.gif << slave punished for her disrobedience.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F1WyFO )
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Scoop isn't that attractive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00036361 = 14.3626 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up Phrenico
Phrenico: Hey, thanks.
trinque: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/5/18/traumatized-students-sue-california-district-for-support.html << lol, they're trying to get "emotional trauma" ruled a disability legally under the ADA, which apparently means you don't have to pass high school, and are due lots of expensive pills and therapy sessions to reinforce your narcissism
assbot: Traumatized Students Sue CA. District For Support | Al Jazeera America ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2VMfM )
trinque: go ahead kids! drain the thing!
williamdunne: On that note, did you hear about the school that gave out laptops that students could take home, which automatically too photos every 15 minutes?
trinque: hahaha, no
trinque: doesn't surprise me one bit
trinque: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/02/school-district-accused-of-issuing-webcam-laptops-to-spy-on-students/1#.VXOrZ60Viko
assbot: School district accused of spying on kids via laptop webcams ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2WLwv )
trinque: "in fact has the ability to remotely activate the webcam contained in a student's personal laptop computer issued by the school district at any time it chose and to view and capture whatever images were in front of the webcam, all without the knowledge, permission or authorization of any persons then and there using the laptop computer."
trinque: you have to put that totalitarian fear in kids young
williamdunne: Yes, well doing our job for us I guess
williamdunne: Fuck debit cards
williamdunne: Seriously
williamdunne: Keeps getting rejected even though I'm going through the VBV crap
williamdunne: I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00037276 = 13.1584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00035859 = 23.3801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84200 @ 0.00037283 = 31.3923 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33149 @ 0.00035859 = 11.8869 BTC [-]
decimation: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156390 << nah. we're at the stage where 'aqueducts? gtfo, we drink piss here, and like it' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 22:35:12; trinque: seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space
mod6: hi ascii_modem. I've got igprof built, and i tested it with the test code in the COMPILE.txt file. i've got your igprof_hooks patch applied to the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE source, and i've built it dynamically.
ascii_modem: questions remain?
ascii_modem: for operation, see ml post
mod6: I've started it up, with a command (pasted above); however, I'm not 100% sure if it's running properly. the size of the log doesn't seem to be growing at all, and not much is dumped when i run: ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531_heapdump_003.txt ( for example )
mod6: do you got time for you to get a full breakdown from me? i can put one together quick.
ascii_modem: sure
mod6: cool thx
ascii_modem: dpaste
decimation: ascii_modem: did you see my term pics
ascii_modem: btw you need igprof on your box
ascii_modem: decimation: aha. mystery asic
decimation: heh yeah I figured you would like that
decimation: probably some kind of serial i/o thingy
ascii_modem: any idea re: arch?
decimation: yeah main cpu is 80186
ascii_modem: x86?
mod6: http://dpaste.com/26EBTJX.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2awHN )
mod6: ascii_modem: ^^
ascii_modem: what's in the output proper ?
mod6: that's all i have. output proper?
mod6: nothing is echo'd out to the terminal.
ascii_modem: ah you forgot to trigger it
mod6: ok. what did i miss?
ascii_modem: read the ml post again
ascii_modem: gotta ask it with rpc cmd to take each dumpshot
decimation: ascii_modem: yeah it's like the 8088 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80186
assbot: Intel 80186 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhfUvW )
ascii_modem: decimation: familiar, used to be common on scsi cards etc
mod6: <+ascii_modem> read the ml post again << ok just re-read for the 3rd time. im /pretty/ sure my execution command (first line of that last dpaste ^^) looks correct. can you confirm?
mod6: <+ascii_modem> gotta ask it with rpc cmd to take each dumpshot << when I take the dump it just puts this one line in there...
ascii_modem: this was not in the paste
mod6: P=(ID=11559 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000)
mod6: sorry, i should have thrown that in
ascii_modem: how precisely did you trigger the dump
mod6: im doing this like this:
mod6: http://dpaste.com/05TR557.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2aRdp )
ascii_modem: this rpc command must be given to -already running- bitcoind
mod6: i gotta just have one silly thing out of place is my guess, but i can't tell what it is yet.
ascii_modem: like 'getinfo'
decimation: ascii_modem: interestingly the thing has a 'firmware download' feature even though the main program appears to be on the EPROM
mod6: it does.
mod6: i can show that, gimme a sec.
ascii_modem: mod6: use my exact flags
mod6: ok
mod6: http://dpaste.com/1TBNJBQ.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2b8gG )
mod6: my data dir isn't under /root/.bitcoin so every time I invoke bitcoind i need to tell it where to look for its stuff.
ascii_modem: with what flags was original instance running ?
mod6: (19:37) <+mod6> it was executed like so: `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -daemon -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &`
ascii_modem: ditch the -daemon
mod6: ah
mod6: ok. i'll try again :]
ascii_modem: same flags as mine plz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00034935 = 20.2623 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: ok, started back up... looking ...
mod6: hmm. this time it didn't spit me out a `igprof.mp.gz`. the log file seems to be growing slowly though.
mod6: i'll put together a rundown
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44251 @ 0.00035233 = 15.591 BTC [+]
ascii_modem: what of snapshots
ascii_modem: those are the necessary thing
ascii_modem: otherwise 'valgrind' would've sufficed
ascii_modem: forget the valgrind-style run log, it is worthless
decimation: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: ty
mod6: http://dpaste.com/0HRDCKZ.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2bSSS )
mike_c: closer, but still not there :)
ascii_modem: really don't need the run log
mike_c: ;;later tell jurov new build runs, but crashes after launch screen.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: yeah, the strange part is that im missing that `igprof.mp.gz`
ascii_modem: this is not valgrind
mod6: ok so that doesn't matter?
mike_c: crash is in crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll . ugh.
ascii_modem: see what you get when triggered snapshot plz
mod6: im not sure what you mean exactly?
mod6: is that a flag for igprof?
ascii_modem: 1) bitcoind is running under igprof
ascii_modem: 2) you run 'bitcoind profileheapdump filename.txt'
ascii_modem: this causes running process to shit out a dump
ascii_modem: rpc command, like getinfo
mod6: ah i see what you mean. ok.
mod6: yeah, i did that in my last paste: ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-002.txt
mod6: there was just one line in that file: P=(ID=11738 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000)
ascii_modem: instance was running when you did this?
mod6: yup
ascii_modem: with what flags ?
mod6: i can do another, sec.
ascii_modem: plz use same! flags as i did
mod6: http://dpaste.com/052M247.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ghjkio )
mike_c: ;;later tell jurov deterministic behavior for the win. I ran it again and it worked.. thanks!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: yup, i'm using the same flags exactly. except I need to add the -datadir flag.
mod6: is that flag a deal-breaker?
ascii_modem: gotta run under igprof !!!
mod6: oook.
ascii_modem: the bitcoind running instance
ascii_modem: not the rpc cmd
mod6: your email just says this:
mod6: To disgorge a heap profile snapshot at a given moment:
mod6: ./bitcoind profileheapdump heapdumpfilename
ascii_modem: 100% correct
ascii_modem: the running instance of bitcoind, and only it
ascii_modem: must be run via igprof
mod6: but your saying that i need to do like `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-004.txt`?
ascii_modem: nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &
ascii_modem: mod6: nooooooo
ascii_modem: do you understand above line from my post ?
ascii_modem: it spins up an instance of bitcoind-under-igprof
mod6: <+ascii_modem> nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log & <<< this is exactly how im executing to begin with, then bitcoind is running as such (via `ps ax`): 11738 pts/2 SLl 0:17 ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap
ascii_modem: which can, 1, 100, million, times, be asked to take a dump
mod6: well my exact invocation is: nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &
mod6: that -datadir flag shouldn't matter.
ascii_modem: mod6: this is running now?
mod6: yeah
ascii_modem: and dump results in turd?
mod6: well, i just found a file in hee, just generated: cat igprof.bitcoind.11807.1433650120.286376.gz | gunzip
mod6: P=(ID=11807 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000)
mod6: but that's all thats in there.
ascii_modem: then i can finally pronounce your setup broken
ascii_modem: build igprof from source (i will share mine later) on a gentoo box
ascii_modem: but only -then- bitcoind
mod6: ok. i did build it from source. no problems were encouterd. followed the COMPILE.txt exactly.
mod6: *shrug*
ascii_modem: ipso facto broken
mod6: ok. anyway, thanks for your time.
ascii_modem: we may end up passing around qemu images after all
ascii_modem: because this - is intolerable
mod6: i might just be extra-strenght stupid though.
ascii_modem: invited to check tomorrow again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123600 @ 0.00036592 = 45.2277 BTC [+]
ascii_modem: 'night
mod6: night ascii
mod6: well, maybe i can get this damn gentoo box to work
mod6: shehaw
mod6: riiight
mod6: uuugh. this thing is nuttier than squirrel shit.
mod6: ok, i'll give it another shot tomorrow.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00035777 = 31.8058 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139200 @ 0.00035777 = 49.8016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00036592 = 9.5139 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44251 @ 0.00037044 = 16.3923 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00037044 = 8.2608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00037308 = 14.8299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5970 @ 0.00037044 = 2.2115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95300 @ 0.00037308 = 35.5545 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47863 @ 0.00036873 = 17.6485 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00037308 = 3.4137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00037308 = 7.1258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.00037253 = 25.034 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62850 @ 0.00037082 = 23.306 BTC [-]
punkman: jurov, there's a problem in eulora.bat, "%PROGRAMFILES(x86)%\cs\winlibs\x86\lib\" should change "cs" to uppercase
punkman: seems to be working otherwise, well done
punkman: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I'll take a Eulora account
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76833 @ 0.00036407 = 27.9726 BTC [-]
punkman: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5863
assbot: Add autoprune functionality by sdaftuar · Pull Request #5863 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuapfR )
jurov: punkman did changing it fixed your problem? last i heard windows are case-insensitive anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67966 @ 0.0003544 = 24.0872 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: punkman comin' right up.
jurov: and i'm getting reports it crashes first time or first two tiimes, but then runs fine
jurov: wiithout any changes
mircea_popescu: jurov lol wtf is this, windows is now a mammal ?
mircea_popescu: "hurts the first coupla times baby, but then it goes oiled"
jurov: haha i guess
punkman: jurov, yes it worked after I uppercased it
punkman: will Eulora run on older laptops with linux?
cazalla: ran fine here without any changes
jurov: punkman it needs decent 3d support, if the laptop has old intel card it works but is a pain
mircea_popescu: punkman i had it run on a very old laptop, but it was very slow.
jurov: and eats much cpu too, but i hope that can be improved, there is not reason for that
mircea_popescu: jurov http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows << so where does luser click ?
assbot: Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE14DE )
cazalla: that whale monument lags the fuck out of me
jurov: not for lusers yet
mircea_popescu: incidentally : the client is entirely open. if anyone feels like making patches they'll certainly be reviewed.
punkman: jurov, also mingw/msys can be deselected before installer starts installing
jurov: mircea_popescu: i thought when you put it on minigame.bz, then i remove that provisional part altogether
jurov: pukman i see
mircea_popescu: jurov put what/where ?
jurov: the files i uploaded
jurov: what will be one with them?
punkman: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/19/cannes-backlash-high-heels-emily-blunt-flat-shoes
assbot: Cannes faces backlash after women reportedly barred from film screening for not wearing high heels | Film | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iue79i )
mircea_popescu: what i want you to do is create a page for your own distribution packages much like the one on binaries
mircea_popescu: then i can link that
jurov: ah, put the manifest into html. ic
mircea_popescu: jurov it can be in any format you wish, including txt, but maintained by you.
mircea_popescu: it'd be a horribru arrangement for me to have to keep changing mine every time you need yours changed.
jurov: .txt is already there, you can publish it and i'll add html version soon
mircea_popescu: can i have a link to it ?
jurov: it's on your ftp server
mircea_popescu: dawg...
mircea_popescu: put the text file somewhere accessible and link it
jurov: so you expected i keep html on explo.yt an only binaries on minigame.bz?
jurov: okay that make s sense
mircea_popescu: well normally that's how myeah
mircea_popescu: jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHP )
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHU )
mircea_popescu: eh wtf.
mircea_popescu: oh i mean
mircea_popescu: jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe
jurov: http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueNvn )
jurov: deedbot- http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuePTZ )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
jurov: http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows updated
assbot: Eulora 0.1.0 for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufcOl )
jurov: going afk, will linkify and improve it later
mircea_popescu: jurov http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/jurov-manifest-0.1.0.html << fify
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufBAn )
jurov: tyvm!
mircea_popescu: i had added a dot after #eulora and then spent 5 minutes trying to figure out wtf why dfoes it say bad signature
mircea_popescu: then i was like a! wait... you can't copyedit gpg signed matter!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120200 @ 0.00035982 = 43.2504 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00035403 = 3.5049 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00035113 = 6.2501 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: punkman http://dpaste.com/2Z7A58Y
assbot: dpaste: 2Z7A58Y ... ( http://bit.ly/1G3BP8E )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156512 << the notion that anyone fucking asked them... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-06-2015 02:41:20; williamdunne: I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest
mircea_popescu: so annoying.
mircea_popescu: and now... ima be off... playing my game
mircea_popescu: lalalala an' a bottle o' rum.
mircea_popescu: which they don't have here but the cognac is passible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109106 @ 0.0003508 = 38.2744 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00035307 = 8.5796 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94700 @ 0.00035002 = 33.1469 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66918 @ 0.00034924 = 23.3704 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87765 @ 0.00035307 = 30.9872 BTC [+]
punkman: jurov, the uppercase thing was fluke, it still crashes a bunch of times before it works
punkman: ;;later tell chetty slightly annoying that we can't paste on login form
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110550 @ 0.0003625 = 40.0744 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 158520 @ 0.00035593 = 56.422 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33880 @ 0.00035146 = 11.9075 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00036279 = 11.1921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95793 @ 0.00035356 = 33.8686 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117000 @ 0.0003548 = 41.5116 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00035146 = 16.2375 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ScottJ_ i live in buenos aires yo.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9952 @ 0.00035686 = 3.5515 BTC [+]
scoopbot_revived: The "Follow your heart" myth. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/07/the-follow-your-heart-myth/
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mblyts2T0m1rejj40o1_1280.jpg << the heart in question
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GiG69E )
shinohai: The heart isn't red enough, may need more spanking to ensure max crimson.
mircea_popescu: max crimson lol
scoopbot_revived: Subject: Important notice from SEC http://trilema.com/2015/subject-important-notice-from-sec/
shinohai: scottrade.tk ? seriously?
shinohai: And the spelling is atrocious .... obvious troll/phish
pete_dushenski: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 359861 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell decimation thanks for putting me on to that bloody shovel blog ! you'll find it quoted in the most recent contravex
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2015#1153802 << if these kids knew their asses from their heads, they'd be most scared of the ex-military guys in #b-a ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2015 13:57:30; jurov: https://8ch.net/btc/res/332.html#341 bingo's famous
pete_dushenski: not that i'm volunteering to fight BingoBoingo, but mats or adlai would be the one's i'd watch out for.
pete_dushenski: was there anyone else here who did a military stint that i'm forgetting ?
pete_dushenski: and on the chin-ups-as-a-measure-of-fitness front, i can currently do... 8
pete_dushenski: few more weeks of summer weather and 10 is very much acheivable.
pete_dushenski: it's actually nuts how seasonal life in the arctic is
ben_vulpes: how so nuts? you're far away from the equator.
pete_dushenski: 5 months of fair weather (may-sept) where i can be active as all hell, and then 7 months where i eat carbs and go soft
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: life in the arctic is nuts compared to life on the internet, where every day is just like the last.
ben_vulpes: i'm thinking futsal for next winter
pete_dushenski: like indoor soccer ?
pete_dushenski played this growing up
ben_vulpes: smaller teams, smaller balls, smaller field but more or less.
ben_vulpes attempts to compile crystalspace on os x for the third time today
pete_dushenski: 5 players *including* goalkeeper eh.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: lotsa weird dependencies ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42539 @ 0.00035146 = 14.9508 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: i don't think they're terribly weird, but what do i know
ben_vulpes: the first fun bit was when the configure script for chetty's specified version of cs actually asked me for the password to crystal@crystalspace3d.org's account...
ben_vulpes: was trying to package and upload an msi or some other such madness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00035095 = 17.5865 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: now i'm just trying to compile the latest
ben_vulpes: if this fails i'll download a stable tarball and try that
ben_vulpes: i'm not even certain that anyone builds this on os x regularly
pete_dushenski: sounds like god's work.
pete_dushenski: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38w53p/kraken_bitcoin_withdrawals_keep_pending/ << ruhroh
assbot: Kraken bitcoin withdrawals keep pending : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwMLPT )
pete_dushenski: "On Thursday, the US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) confirmed that hackers broke into its servers. A data center in Denver was compromised, we're told, which resulted in the loss of personal information on four million current and former employees; the records could date back as far as 1985."
pete_dushenski: ^unearthing all the "i was just doing my job"ers.
pete_dushenski: retired on not, y'all usian bureaucrats are so fucking guilty.
pete_dushenski: "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection" ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i think i have 3 concurrent "identity theft protection" contracts
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you're familiar with asciilifeform's story about sponsors of foreigners in the states taking mortgages out in the foreigners names?
pete_dushenski: hm nope.
pete_dushenski: sounds plausible enough though
pete_dushenski: "A Spanish woman has filed a lawsuit against eBay for the right to sell the Sun, El Mundo reports." << an answer to that old question : "what is the utility of the sun to you ?"
pete_dushenski: i guess it's about 10k euroes
pete_dushenski: the reg's tim worstall is at it again : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/07/so_why_didnt_quantitative_easing_produce_huge_inflation/
assbot: So why the hell didn't quantitative easing produce HUGE inflation? • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPeKb )
pete_dushenski: ""So, if we increase the money supply then we'll get lots more inflation. This didn't happen, or as I'll point out, did in fact, so obviously those who were crying wolf were wrong"
pete_dushenski: "A quick historical divergence: it's much more useful to study the 19th Century recessions to see this, as at that point M, money, was determined by the supply of gold. And yes, recessions really were accompanied by significant deflation and also falls in output and no, no one really liked that at all. Which is why this idea that Bitcoin has only a single total amount that will ever be issued is not to the taste
pete_dushenski: of central bankers. Because it ties hands when dealing with this specific problem."
pete_dushenski: anyways, i hung up worstall once before when he tried to make a value proposition for facebook : http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/23/how-the-adage-time-is-money-and-the-existence-of-google-prove-that-facebook-is-worth-less-than-dust/
assbot: How the adage “time is money” and the existence of Google+ prove that Facebook is worth less than dust. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPzfW )
pete_dushenski: he's probably too old and retarded to bother inviting here for a little conversation
pete_dushenski: but maybe one day he'll stumble upon this corner of the world, and we'll have the logs to start with
pete_dushenski: and now i'm off to meatspace ! ciao !!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48021 @ 0.00035292 = 16.9476 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, the navy is gearing up for its own f35: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/06/congress-tries-to-hide-a-submarine-000069
assbot: Congress tries to hide a submarine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwQYTP )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70300 @ 0.00035762 = 25.1407 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: dude what is the damn point of a sub
ben_vulpes: incredibly expensive
ben_vulpes: incredibly vulnerable
ben_vulpes: hugely visible on sonar i imagine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109600 @ 0.00034885 = 38.234 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: <ben_vulpes> crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x << sauce?
ben_vulpes: personal verification.
ben_vulpes: downloaded tarball, ran ./configure, configure script asks for password for crystal@crystalspace3d.org , fails to produce jam or makefiles
ben_vulpes: have also done the same thing with various svn checkouts
jurov: do you have osx system i can remote to?
jurov: or anyone?
ben_vulpes: chetty's going to post me a tarball to try, i expect it to behave the precisely same way
ben_vulpes: nope.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to go stand in the sun and burn the open source off of my face.
ben_vulpes: and hands.
ben_vulpes: i just keep failing/to compile/crystal space/on my mac/ooh ooh ooh (to the tune of https://youtu.be/Urdlvw0SSEc?t=49)
assbot: Alicia Keys - Fallin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dolmlq )
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mircea_popescu: o.O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102854 @ 0.00035961 = 36.9873 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72050 @ 0.00036018 = 25.951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17519 @ 0.00036018 = 6.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6280 @ 0.00034878 = 2.1903 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114700 @ 0.00035073 = 40.2287 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131200 @ 0.0003621 = 47.5075 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00036113 = 18.0966 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00036496 = 20.2553 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: blockchain down again huh
kakobrekla: heh
Adlai also gets anxious when it takes more than 10 minutes to confirm
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59259 @ 0.00035182 = 20.8485 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192200 @ 0.00036811 = 70.7507 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59259 @ 0.00036 = 21.3332 BTC [-]
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156812 < pete in the us this often is a scam. Because none of the banks actually use a WoT to determine creditworthiness (like they did in the past), they use a silly credit score system ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-06-2015 15:33:03; pete_dushenski: "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection"
decimation: so all you need to do to apply for credit is to know someone's personal identity details, mainly their social security number
decimation: the 'theft protection' generally are the same agencies selling the credit scores also selling you the 'service' of telling you when someone applies for credit in your name
decimation: you know, 'that's an aweful nice score you got there, would be a shame if something happened to it'
decimation: how this helps protect individual bureaucrats from Chinese designs is a mystery
shinohai: http://www.wired.com/2010/05/lifelock-identity-theft/ <<< like this?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVRZ9j )
decimation: heh yeah
decimation: the other part of the scam is to get you to subscribe to a 'service' that does very little for you
decimation: I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes ☟︎
trinque: mod6: ey, I'm building a basic gentoo in a VM today. if it bakes well, I'll image it and give you a torrent.
trinque: also writing up my steps, not using the handbook
decimation: ;;later tell pete_dushenski no problem, that blog is one of the few that are fairly readable in the 'reactionary sphere'. top commenters too.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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decimation: for instance, Handle points out: "See, e.g., this updated criterion for military officer (and NCO!) evaluation (only now becoming a big deal, since one is no longer able to slide with ?supports the program? type of bullet points). This is the Army version, but the same policy is now implemented across all the armed services."
decimation: " ? raters will assess how well the rated officer or NCO fostered a climate of dignity and respect and adhered to the Sexual harassment/Assault Response and Prevention (SHARP) Program. "
mod6: trinque: hey thanks!
trinque: np
trinque: coming at it from the perspective that you do everything not related to booting the thing *after* booting the thing
decimation: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kde6s_he-is-not-equal-never-will-be_news < Harry Lee's (now dead 'king' of singapore) speech on equality
assbot: He is not equal, never will be - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1eWLDbv )
decimation: http://nullprogram.com/blog/2015/05/15/ < how to thread without the pthread library
assbot: Raw Linux Threads via System Calls « null program ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOlbuS )
decimation: ^ perhaps there is an awakening here, folks are realizing it make sense to 'live in the bedrock' rather than accept the shit-stack in userland without question
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 255250 @ 0.00036073 = 92.0763 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: !up Petit_Dejeuner
Petit_Dejeuner: Thanks. I don't have much to say though.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26242 @ 0.0003588 = 9.4156 BTC [-] {2}
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/untamed/
assbot: Untamed Devotion: Endless Beginnings 3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmKZv )
jurov: http://www.explo.yt/eulora/eulora_33.jpg party in full swing
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmQjX )
decimation: lol story on what happened with moldbug's "uninvitation" was censored on hacker news http://hnrankings.info/9674992/
assbot: Hacker News Rankings ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmV7p )
decimation: "However, in this case it is clear to me that your opinions in areas outside your talk are concerning enough for a significantly large number of attendees that those reactions are overshadowing the talk and acting as a distraction for launching the conference as a whole."
decimation: note the particularly oblique angle here: it's not that yarvin's opinions are bad, it's that his group can't handle them, see
decimation: it would be a real shame if you showed up at our meeting of the jacobin club
decimation: "I can handle it, but you never know about those sans qulot"
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Adlai: he even specifically distances himself from the content ("I have not personally read them"), what apparently his audience is unable to do
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91834 @ 0.00034975 = 32.1189 BTC [+]
trinque: mod6: it lives
decimation: Adlai: heh yeah
decimation: https://improprietaryinfluence.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/a-strange-loop/ < another blog on the topic > "What should have happened was the activists being told to get lost five years ago, when the ?inclusiveness? crusade began. Neutral technologists, if they knew then what they will know eventually, would have done that."
assbot: A Strange Loop | Improprietary Influence ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOoQZB )
decimation: " But they believed the lies. As a result, they now have negligibly greater contributions from ?the oppressed?, but they are losing out on contributions from conservatives?extreme conservatives now, but moderate conservatives later. In the end they will have nothing."
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00035287 = 2.3413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129800 @ 0.00034618 = 44.9342 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: !up _flow_
danielpbarron: !up alaricsp
danielpbarron: !up BananaLotus
danielpbarron: !up bitspill
danielpbarron: !up CryptOprah
danielpbarron: !up eric
danielpbarron: !up huseby
danielpbarron: !up Jezzz
danielpbarron: !up julmac
danielpbarron: !up kdomanski
danielpbarron: !up knotwork
danielpbarron: !up mariorz
danielpbarron: !up MCM-Mike
danielpbarron: !up NewLiberty
danielpbarron: !up ryan-c
danielpbarron: !up warptangent
danielpbarron: !up weex
danielpbarron: !up wiz
danielpbarron: !up yang
danielpbarron: ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2 ☟︎
mod6: <+trinque> mod6: it lives << ahh cool. got it workin?
trinque: yeah, got a torrent of the image too
trinque: fiddling with my network such that I can seed it
trinque: boots a kernel which should be equivalent to the livecd (genkernel), grub2, eudev instead of udev, root has password "gentoo", all other decisions (logger, cron, so on) left to be made
trinque: a few things (pulseaudio, systemd) removed by USE in make.conf
jurov: trinque, livecd with eulora autostarted?
ben_vulpes: neat, danielpbarron
trinque: jurov: exercise left to reader
trinque: mod6: ping ya with a torrent in a bit
trinque: image is signed by my key
ben_vulpes: neat, trinque
ben_vulpes: ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IS NEATS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32554 @ 0.00035287 = 11.4873 BTC [+]
Adlai: how do you like your whisky, ben_vulpes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00035127 = 12.9619 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: on the rocks
mod6: trinque: thanks!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00034618 = 19.3515 BTC [-]
shinohai: http://41.media.tumblr.com/ce6c62fe7f1bc60d2a1e5698ad853e76/tumblr_nit4lkwhYG1smjc75o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gjy6VG )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85400 @ 0.00035127 = 29.9985 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137250 @ 0.00034618 = 47.5132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57550 @ 0.00034618 = 19.9227 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up referredbyloper
trinque: mod6: see if you can pull this down http://dpaste.com/2AH328W.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MgDJEq )
trinque: that's a signed torrent file