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cazalla: cosmo, whether bitshares, ppc, ethereum's ether etc etc, they all have one thing in common
cosmo: and what's that cazalla ?
cazalla: its creators and followers are super keen to sell their 2.0 creation for bitcoin
cosmo: bitshares seems to be doing an interesting job with pegged assets
cosmo: and btc-e minting 5m ppc? something's up, i'll ride along
cosmo: at least you're not the kickban type
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lol so is the contined "x is doing something interesting"
cazalla: continued even.. anyway cosmo forget the rest.. get ur bitcoin on
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assbot: Bug 531268 – app-crypt/dieharder-3.31.1 - In file included from bits.c:7: /usr/include/unistd.h:1043:20: error: unknown type name 'intptr_t' ... (
http://bit.ly/1TEE9tE )
trinque: I'm beginning to see that mathemetician-code is a thing.
trinque: asciilifeform: I lobbied the maintainer to patch the thing so it'd build
trinque: sounds like the build system for it is totally fucked
trinque: one more on the pile of "needs to be rewritten by non-mathemetician"
trinque: doesn't mean it was any good then
mircea_popescu: "Large areas of X, including entire major cities, have been ethnically cleansed by the departure of class-B people fleeing class-A violence."
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit. the dicklets are fleeing to escape their own ~sexual~ impotence.
trinque: asciilifeform: ah I don't buy that; the hairbrained thing it was doing is in that bug thread, I think
mircea_popescu: you recall, i traveled the polace by bus ? hung out with black dudes in the back of greyhounds ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i dun need you to show me the port quarter. can find on own
mircea_popescu: the incident in question where they assaulted some schmuky blond kid (and the police had to come - i wouldn't have bothered) was iirc alabama
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mircea_popescu: they are running away from their own sexual impotence.
mircea_popescu: violence got nothing to do with it, it's a convenient scapegoat. like 13 yo girls claiming they don't want to associate with boys because they smell, rather than the obvious "my vagina's not yet developed enough"
mircea_popescu: i honestly, if i had to pick, would side with the "evil niggers" and beat the shit out of the pesky internet-addled "civilised" folk.
mircea_popescu: ironically, in zimbabwe i'd have definitely shot some mugabewites.
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mircea_popescu: the discussion i'm derrinding, with "A's and B's" pretends there is
mircea_popescu: and i am pointing out that in that story... the author's side is abominable, and the story doesn't even credibly flow as he claims.
mircea_popescu: im fully unconvinced by all this complicated, farcical, cinquecento-ish "string of instruments" puppet theatre.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, plenty of usians are becoming quite end-of-world italians these days
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 00:20:25; mircea_popescu: you recall, i traveled the polace by bus ? hung out with black dudes in the back of greyhounds ?
cazalla: well what do they say? abscence makes the heart grow fonder? :P
mircea_popescu: look, there is absolutely no way you will sell me on the theory that the leaving male is anything but the sexual inferior.
mircea_popescu: sure, every individual can do whatever the fuck they please for whatever random reasons, but when you're trying to discuss migration in statistical terms like he tries to discuss it - it's always a sexual matter.
cazalla: reminds me of the hamstrung kid in high school who hits back at his bullies but is inevitably bullied by teachers as well for responding
mircea_popescu: forget for a moment all the counting of "how many niggers ate white babies" or w/e and riddle me this :
decimation: so moving to the ghetto and having your children play with needles on the street is what a real man would do?
mircea_popescu: how many white boys got sent upstate and ended up pimping out the female guards ?
mircea_popescu: and how many black boys are doing a shrem impersonation with "of course plea bargain" etc ?
decimation: but I have no reason to see them raised in a seething cesspool of crime
mircea_popescu: im not judging you in any sense. this is a sociology argument
cazalla: to make this many kids though one would need to engage in a little rape eh
mircea_popescu: you're not their mother. your job is to get them killed.
mircea_popescu: cazalla you'd be surprised how many women are ready to go, in places like teh usistan.
cazalla: you're gonna wanna double wrap it with such women though? defeats the purpose of fucking them to begin with
mircea_popescu: well, jack off next to them and release flies from your flies jar then
mircea_popescu: might not be a real man, but it is pretty awesome crab-like
mircea_popescu: the automatics are both better cheaper and easer to use
mircea_popescu: you have to appreciate i come from a land where a fire drill would have been laughed out of town
mircea_popescu: i recently discussed matters of student housing with a girl the right age from there
mircea_popescu: and i explain that yes, at the time girls just lived in whichever room, usually moving around for a day or a week or whatever by their friendship or allegiances or who had bfs over
mircea_popescu: romanian campus, hs and college, was always basicalyl one large slumbert party.
mircea_popescu: apparently in the us this wouldn't ever work because... inspections
mircea_popescu: and at that point my film broke. nigga... say wut ?! who's going to go knocking on your door ?!
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is mostly because human males do not actually wish to sleep with human females.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there exists a culture in which boys past the age of sexual maturity show any preference whatever to sleep with the women, just like girls of all ages much prefer to.
mircea_popescu: reading comments on unqualified reservations, it occurs to me the main reason this guy got to be popular was being so amply wrong about so many things.
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assbot: Logged on 20-06-2015 18:29:13; asciilifeform: (there is an apocryphal story where feynman was invited to spoodge into william shockley's 'sperm bank of genius.' and he said 'you have the wrong address! go call my father'
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ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> !up ben_vulp` << 'tis the french pronounciation
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> yes, it is better to be smart and active than it is to be stupid and active. << balanced against that "impotent activity"
mircea_popescu: the thing is, derp sitting at home and seeking supportive subreddits for his drawings is never going to figure out he's fucked in the head.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile guy trying to piss on electric fence won't stay stupid long
ben_vulpes has lost track of all the zappings from unexpectedly electrified...trees
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the irc falls over for whatever reason this thing is dead.
mircea_popescu: so this is actually something of purely academic interest - shoud not be run as is period.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes would the foundation spin up an aws and run this ?
mircea_popescu: basically it takes out fNameLookup and forces a function to always return false.
mircea_popescu: CAddress addrConnect("92.243.23.21", 6667); // irc.lfnet.org << would it be wiser if we spin up an ircd special for this purpose ?
ben_vulpes: wouldn't be the foundation mircea_popescu so much as my personal account
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you're willing to donate the cost, why not run it through the bitcoin host?
ben_vulpes: rechristen la serenissima's bitcoin host as the bitcoin foundation?
mircea_popescu: if the bitcoin host is the go-to thing for this job, it's the bitcoin foundation.
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mircea_popescu: contrariwise - that why we have teh foundation is centrally so it participates in this sort of activity
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes would the foundation spin up an aws and run this ? << I can test this with my aws, sure. unless you guys are proposing something else i.e. spinning up our own ircd
ben_vulpes: mod6: i think the ask is for a long-running public node.
mircea_popescu: mod6 how valuable and how difficult dja think spinning an ircd compatible with lfnet would be ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, this is a temporary test thing, to see just how bad alf's latest butchery affects things
ben_vulpes: aha well i'll be testing it on my own checkbook's back anyways
mod6: well, i've run ircd hybrid many times myself. ran one for /years/. but not sure what lfnet is about really. need to look into that. but whatever it might be, it'll need to be resistant to getting packeted, unless just run for a short time for testing.
mircea_popescu: you run it closed loop, with your own bitcoin-as-snipped above
mircea_popescu: part of it is to see how well bitcoin holds up by being hosed from the irc side.
mircea_popescu: part of it is to have a backup in case lfnet is a piece of shit / the enemy. which is pretty likely.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think they run more or less basic ircd ya
mod6: CAddress addrConnect("92.243.23.21", 6667); // irc.lfnet.org << would it be wiser if we spin up an ircd special for this purpose ? << i think we should make this ip non-static, configurable from a file. these IPs can change at anytime/be honeynet, etc.
mircea_popescu: mod6 we've not yet put the entire that change in yet, apparently, because one per.
decimation: why not ircd that is linked to assbot wot?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 we've not yet put the entire that change in yet, apparently, because one per. << makes sense. just wanted to "voice" that concern.
mircea_popescu: decimation gossipd is not ready yet. freenode you mean ?
mod6: yeah, it's good. breaks things up a bit, easier to read.
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mod6: So currently, I'm trying to get gcc patched to see if we can even build the R.I. with gcc/uclibc. Would it be prudent to finish that work before moving on to testing this DNS amputation?
mod6: I think that would be the best course of action.
mircea_popescu: mod6 depends on how advanced the work is. how advanced is it ?
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see those gcc bugs?
decimation: something about weak symbols being optimized out under certain conditions
mod6: I, with trinque's help, need to patch gcc 4.8.4 with gentoo using /etc/portage/patches via ebuild flag(?). If that works, then I can test that the R.I. will link properly. If that works, maybe we finally have static apple pie.
mod6: Probably need a week to sort it out -- might take rest of month.
decimation: might explain mod6's weird ulibc link shit
mod6: For me, doing this first is imperitive as even if the DNS amputation works, if we can't compile it with uclibc, it doesn't matter anyway.
decimation: at any rate, I'm going on a geologic tour tomorrow, I need to catch some sleep
mod6: Does that make sense? Or am I off course here?
mircea_popescu: this thing is not so much an emergency as something that needs to be done. if it sees the light of box this month say it's perfect.
mod6: I'll put it in the list. We'll revisit all of this soon.
mircea_popescu: anwyay. there's no argument that the irc thing has to go.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: not sure how you intend to build a dns-using thing with uclibc << this is a chicken/egg problem yeah. maybe we can't get it fully built because of the whole gethostbyname libnss bullshit. but if we can at least ensure that it'll link properly, that's huge. then, even if it's not fully statuc because of that, we can amputate dns with your patches and retry.
mod6: by "link properly", i mean overcoming this:
mod6: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
mod6: if not, we might have to McGuyver our own patch.
mod6: or upgrade to a much more uplevel version of gcc to test and see if that works instead. iirc, version 5.x included a fix for this? maybe 4.9.x did too.
mod6: period gcc? as-in, something very recent?
mod6: ah, hmm. sure, we could give that a shot instead if you think its worth my/our time.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah, definitely. esp if current one giving you trouble.
mod6: So, I think I'm gonna stay the course on trying to patch 4.8.4... if we get into a giant hassle with it, we'll cut bait for the time being and try to build something like 3.7 and try that.
mod6: I think trinque and I need like 2 evenings of working on it to find out how ugly its gonna be.
trinque: mod6: I'll be home in roughly an hour btw
trinque: I have no strong opinion regarding uclibc vs glibc, as I haven't used the former at all before this
mod6: either have I, but glibc is full of trickery.
mircea_popescu: computers get their public names the same way women do : owner states it.
trinque: or cumcast will sell you one for 10-15 extra per month
mod6: yeah i think my /27 used to be like ~$10/mo
trinque: verizon are known scamz0rz
mod6: yeah that /27 was through Qwest (now CenturyLink (usg isp)), now 1 static is included from cumcast "out of the box" iirc.
trinque: cronjob curl and icanhazip.com lol
mircea_popescu: well... you don't plan on being there long anyway, so.
mircea_popescu: more insane than requiring machines to know their name.
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ben_vulpes: myeah this gets back to my question about the necessity of the IP address in the protocol.
ben_vulpes: a) how is this an actually necessary thing
ben_vulpes: by virtue of the socket being opened, the receiving node should be able to just write to that (file descriptor, i think is the abstraction?) and let the NIC handle the package addressing - correct?
ben_vulpes: i might be colossally retarded this is always possible
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ben_vulpes: i'm rusty on this particular bit of logic
ben_vulpes: myes, i see that. what i'm not 100% on is the impact to the receiving node of having garbage in that field.
ben_vulpes: what do you mean "answer": attempt to talk to the provided IP instead of the connection abstraction provided by the machine?
ben_vulpes: why not just talk on the open connection?
mod6: yeah, the network stuff (having read Stevens' stuff (UNIX Network Programming Vol 1&2)) makes me cringe.
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mircea_popescu: this sounds like an argument against assfucking. "because there's a cunt there"
mircea_popescu: i am inclined to believe this is more likely the result of original author having nfi how tcp works rathger than having an idea about some obscure weakness he's deliberately mitigating
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, "it's strange" is not much of an arghument is it ?
mircea_popescu: no, retarded is a different degree. has to be actively dysfunctional somehow
cazalla: hanbot, published (good read)
mircea_popescu: can you see any reason he'd suspect the ip provided by the socket ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno. i don't understand internets - which is common, admitting it is rare
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ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's a subtle kind of malevolence wherein needless complexity is all of a sudden necessary because of a subtle misunderstanding of the bedrock
mircea_popescu: still, the conservative approach in unknown terrain has yet to be beaten in the field.
mircea_popescu: daring acts of bravado belong to they in possession of a map.
mod6: who knows why satoshi put that in there. i kinda find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have understood IP headers. perhaps he was trying to ensure that every connecting node was indeed a real host, not some spoofed packet magic.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15543 @ 0.00042164 = 6.5536 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: just grasping at straws. maybe the simplest answer is the correct one: he just didn't know.
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ben_vulpes: do we even know that that part of the wire protocol is his handiwork?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy?
☟︎☟︎ mod6: anyway, im /exausted/. have a good night!
mod6: eh, maybe i was wrong about what that email contains, i guess it's from may of 2012. ugh, too tired. my apologies.
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Vexual: hey, hows that vette running?
Vexual: surely its a diff machine now
ben_vulpes: heh, mebbe in that i've worn her in a bit now.
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ben_vulpes: does anyone recall where the (brief) thread on replacing rpc with signals went?
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ben_vulpes not actually testing this tonight, just reading code
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ben_vulpes: well i'm reading that as a ternary operator
ben_vulpes: = (test) ? (val if test returns true) : (val if test returns false)
ben_vulpes: asio::ip::address_v4::any() << looks wide ope to me
mircea_popescu: it just transforms a numeric value into a boost "object"
ben_vulpes: which numeric value? i read " if flag is passed, accept requests from any ipv4 addr. else, only accept connections on the loopback interface"
mircea_popescu: "if flag is passed, transform its value into an ip and use that"
ben_vulpes: that's som implicit ass semantics if that's how shit's actually workgin
ben_vulpes: dun see how the test value gets passed to the function invocations
ben_vulpes: and that method call any() looks like..."any"
ben_vulpes: if that works the way you say it works that's more implicit than rails
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williamdunne: I'm back in the UK, so will begin appearing again
williamdunne: Naphex: Did your friend launch the RO exchange?
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mod6: So yeah, in the version (v0.2.1) from MPs email, that code to find the external ip is included. Also if I do a checkout of tag v0.1.5 from git, same thing. Still don't know who added it for sure though.
mod6: anyway, it's neither really here nor there.
gribble: Current Blocks: 361912 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 967 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 18 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00040352 / 0.00042091 / 0.00045217 (1775681 shares, 747.42 BTC), 7D: 0.00036741 / 0.0004229 / 0.00047031 (20583079 shares, 8,704.69 BTC), 30D: 0.00026467 / 0.00035047 / 0.00047031 (106048949 shares, 37,167.48 BTC)
mircea_popescu: mod6 it was in the first implementation too. pretty sure it's OA.
mod6: Objection Argumentitive? yeah, guess it is.
mod6: Unrelated, I downgraded my GPG version from v1.4.13 to v1.4.10 -- incase anyone notices the change in my sigs.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: how did you get 3% RO tax rate?
mircea_popescu: small businesses pay 3% of income. the other option is to pay 16% of net income.
mircea_popescu: you can also opt to be a vat payer (in which case you also get to deduct vat you paid)
williamdunne: So works out a lot better if you have high profit margins to do 3% income
mircea_popescu: but best used in the hands of a competent local accountant, because it's complex.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne moreover, there are better jurisdictions to deduct expenses in than romania.
mircea_popescu: deduct in london, get out of 60% rather than in romania, which has 16% pretty much throughout.
Naphex: williamdunne: not yet, no RO exchanges alive atm
williamdunne: Naphex: I was terrified this was the finished product
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Hmm okay, makes sense. But in UK you have dividend tax which sucks
williamdunne: Which if I'm reading correctly, doesn't apply to EU citizens for Romanian companies
mircea_popescu: why would you be paying yourself dividends in london ?
mircea_popescu: if it's a large company you don't gas about dividends. if it's small hire them as consultants or w/e
Naphex: williamdunne: nah, that looks like ssome scam
williamdunne: Naphex: Definitely, I'm guessing its the scammer you worked for trying to revive his shit without your source
mircea_popescu: contrary to popular belief tax lawyers are not expensive, ~especially~ if you're young and you look like you know what you're doing. most of their revenue comes from their list, which they can only add at the early stages, nobody's switching late in the game.
williamdunne: That actually makes a lot of sense, want to keep hold of you for when you are big
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I know your policy on MPEX is only to support bitcoin denominated businesses, but whats your opinion on exchanges? IMO while fiat is involved, revenue is almost entirely pegged to bitcoin
williamdunne: asciilifeform: Remind me tomorrow, and yeah I need to revive scoop anyway
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assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy?
mod6: no, MPs email contained v0.2.1
mod6: oooh. i was super confused. ok the name of the file is "bitcoin-src-21may2012.tar.gz"
mod6: not v0.2.1 may 21st. smh
mod6: anyway, i did checkout git tag v0.1.5 and the code there has the external ip stuff too.
mod6: whats the wire protocol?
mod6: ah, didn't know it had a name.
mod6: anyway, yeah, i think this crud goes all the way back to the start.
trinque: lettuce slay the gcc dragon
trinque: or like... poke it in the eye and run
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00042537 = 1.6802 BTC [-]
mod6: trinque: werd. sounds good.
punkman: asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines
☟︎ mod6: soon to be bennifer
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there a good reason why bitcoind had to be a multithreaded proggy?
ben_vulpes: is this ThreadSocketHandler -> ThreadSocketHandler2 pattern common in c++ multithreaded proggies?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00043312 = 3.1834 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00042208 = 9.4546 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: the problem reduces to "find a salt that will turn this trivial hash into a known hash", which is equivalent to "break this key", which makes the premise unworkable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00043312 = 6.9537 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00043368 = 4.5103 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: so trinque & I have discovered that the patch provided by the email mentioned (
https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-02/msg00410.html ) doesn't patch cleanly at all. Even with some McGuyvering of the patch to ensure the paths are correct etc, there are still a number of files not found. It might be plausible to write our own custom patch for 4.8.4 to resolve the issue.
mod6: I think I might try to manually implement the changes required if the files in question do exist.
mod6: If this doesn't go well, perhaps we'll try a period gcc if we can get it to work with uclibc/hardened AND another caviat here is going to be weather this defect shows up in there as well (since way down level).
cazalla: ;;later tell peter_dushenski i think your blog might've eaten my comment
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, decimation, trinque and any other c-grammers
mod6: lol, this is uglier than I had thought. I patched the gcc-4.8.4 source with all of the patches from /their/ bundle v1.5 (
http://dpaste.com/1NRJTT7.txt), and now i'm in there apply patches by hand, and only 2 out of ~10 files to patch actually exist here (the rest are for pr# files (Problem Report?)). And when I can apply a patch, the surrounding code is slightly different.
mod6: there's about a 0.001% chance this will work.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19870 @ 0.0004149 = 8.2441 BTC [-] {3}
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mod6: ok, well done patching the stuff that can be patched...
ben_vulpes: i don't even have any items in eulora yet
mod6: << someone put it on reddit twitter or wherever. << done
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, we'll keep it warm for you for when you grow younger ?
ben_vulpes: although i did get a claim yesterday...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041263 = 11.3886 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: that's a hilarious warning
mod6: ben_vulpes: you did get Eulora built tho 'eh?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00041078 = 14.4595 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i wonder briefly why these tards don't do something useful with their time, instead of making pointless "infographs" that make no sense, represent no data and interest no one.
jurov: that's incredible picture... why it does not go on at least to 2100, i wonder
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mod6: ok, i've got a patch i created myself (post application of patches: gentoo/uclibc/PIE) for gcc... just trying to get it to work with emerge.
mod6: patch applies manually just fine, seems to choak when used by emerge becuase of directory levels or something. hopefully can overcome this...
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 01:43:37; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: you now have homework. it being, to read & actually grok the sequence of 4 'dns thermonuke' patches.
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assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 21:21:49; mircea_popescu: ITS IN BOOST
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 17:56:12; punkman: asciilifeform: I think the state of the art is: you send X BTC to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE then new genesis block assigns X newcoin to originating address, or something along these lines
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00042282 = 6.4269 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53106 @ 0.00041654 = 22.1208 BTC [-]
funkenstein_: i'm doubt it's what you are referring to, but the "atomic transaction.. btc from x to y and Ztc from y to x all in one all-or-nothing TX, has supposedly been implemented by mercury exchange
funkenstein_: which unfortunately uses java 8, and when I was trying to test I didn't even get as far as building OpenJDK 8
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