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mod6: log format makes my eyes bleed
xanthyos: WHOAS
mats_cd03: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/families-of-victims-shot-137-times-to-get-3-million
assbot: Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million - newsnet5.com Cleveland ... ( http://bit.ly/1p0en75 )
thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
cazalla: down :\
kakobrekla: for 1h5m
kakobrekla: seems to be some NS issue
nubbins`: <@assbot> Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million <<< dat ambiguous grammar
nubbins`: "Ruth strikes home run to win World Series"
nubbins`: "Police shoot families 137 times to get $3mm"
nubbins`: block 188470 and counting. man, this slows down.
mats_cd03: 17:42:51 <+PBMining> hello everyone, is anyone interested in Bitcoin cloud mining? we offer 5 year contracts at 0.0013 BTC / GHs, no maintenance fees << best proposal yet. 5 years!
mats_cd03: 19:59:25 <fivezerotwo> wanna ddos anybody? << a nice PM. whaddya all think? got any targets?
mats_cd03: i wonder what tat wanted an army for...
cazalla: !up fivezerotwo
asciilifeform: https://medium.com/stanford-select/keeping-secrets-84a7697bf89f
assbot: Keeping Secrets — STANFORD magazine — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXTBqA )
cazalla: morning, friend
asciilifeform: 'How does he . . . can he, in fact, reestablish a sense of trust?' << lol!
fivezerotwo: morning! free ddos for everybody
fivezerotwo: special offer: cinnamon flavor
nubbins`: is it hot cinnamon or regular
cazalla: fivezerotwo, can you stop for 5 minutes so i can publish an article
nubbins`: i hate hot cinnamon
fivezerotwo: cazalla, that is the point of the ddos lol
cazalla: oh, i thought it was to stop others reading
nubbins`: yeah, me too
nubbins`: he can publish the article anywhere ;/
nubbins`: fivezerotwo what's your favourite type of cheese?
fivezerotwo: cheddar
nubbins`: mild, old, ...?
fivezerotwo: how has qntra traffic been?
cazalla: fivezerotwo, see for yourself, https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net it's doing well
cazalla: it even mirrors the bitcoin chart for the past year
mats_cd03: i wonder how many bots contribute to those stats
fivezerotwo: bots don't run JS
cazalla: i don't think ddos is counted
mats_cd03: o rite.
mike_c: some do. google bot runs JS.
mike_c: but i think it's smart enough not to trigger analytic scripts.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-09-26/?msg=22344014&page=1 << fascinating smoke&mirrors job. these jokers do their best to make 'remote attestation' sound appealing, and obscure the actual raison d'etre of the tech (boobytrap in your own silicon against you, owner, in any and all cases) by spinning it as 'forbidden by usg'
assbot: Logs for #bitcoin-wizards | BotBot.me [o__o] ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXW5Fq )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fivezerotwo: quantcast finally loaded, heh
asciilifeform: and...
asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone
assbot: Ukraine Admits Its Gold Is Gone: "There Is Almost No Gold Left In The Central Bank Vault" | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXYCiY )
JorgePasada: Just trust us!
JorgePasada: No way we're lying
JorgePasada: All the shiny things are where they should be
asciilifeform: via mr. o: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/11/its-official-us-stole-ukraines-gold.html
assbot: ClubOrlov: It's official: US stole Ukraine's gold ... ( http://bit.ly/1EXYJLw )
decimation: mircea_popescu: you make a good point re: plastic forks - generally in the us they are supplied with low quality food
decimation: although they have their uses at picnics, etc
decimation: asciilifeform: re: medium << usg had a point, now encryption is 'available'
decimation: as to whether anyone uses it properly is another point
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah, ok, but look at it. what do you do with the leftovers ? do you throw them out on the spot ?
decimation: sure
decimation: giant mountains of trash aren't my problem :)
mircea_popescu: well see, this is part of what im talking about.
mircea_popescu: suppose you carried actual cutlery. you can carry it back the same way. many problems actually solved.
decimation: yes, and in fact I've done exactly that because it is rare to find properly sharpened knives in the us
cazalla: <asciilifeform> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone <<< today i learned australia has less gold than iraq
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY0gBh )
decimation: what about germany's 'gold'?
asciilifeform is uncertain how anyone - who didn't personally steal it - can be certain who has 'the gold'
cazalla: http://dpaste.com/0CWMF9X
assbot: dpaste: 0CWMF9X ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY0rwy )
asciilifeform: it isn't like there's an Au blockchain to at least give some idea of when it moves.
decimation: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html << " “The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. “Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.” " lol ☟︎
assbot: German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY0CI4 )
asciilifeform: 'the key thing is it's something you cant mitigate against' << lol, atomic bomb ?
asciilifeform: one for each.
asciilifeform: (Au is a fascinatingly multi-layered bezzlecake. i.e., does your paper Au correspond to physical Au that you could redeem for? if so, what fraction? and if redeemed, how much tungsten in the bars? and if no tungsten, what will happen to you and your gold after it is known to be sitting in your pocket? etc)
decimation: asciilifeform: I think the pros only accept bars they personally melt
asciilifeform was not there, didn't see it, and puts equally much faith in this claim as in everything else 'pro Au' folks say.
decimation: there are ultrasound devices too http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/applications/ut-testing-gold-bars/
assbot: Ultrasonic Testing of Gold Bars ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY1IDF )
nubbins`: occasionally people sell fake gold on the forums
decimation: asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash
asciilifeform: yes, this was discussed here. but whether they are actually used 'in anger', and what - if anything - is done to verify their function, is - afaik - unknown.
asciilifeform: thing is, the time to test Au is -before- paying for it
asciilifeform: which is, in most cases, impractical.
asciilifeform: for anything larger than a coin
decimation: at any rate, the biggest problem with hoarding gold is the fact that you really have no idea how big your enemy's hordes are
asciilifeform: problem for whom.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg <<< well the problem there is that it;s damned hard to move something that doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only thing it can do is stay where it "is"
asciilifeform: actually nothing is easier than 'moving' nonexisting object
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash << actually, romanian central bank holds ~112 tons currently, you can pay ~15 bucks and go on a tour
mircea_popescu: or at least you could, a few years back.
mircea_popescu: (contrary to common belief, a ton of gold isn't that impressive a pile_
asciilifeform: r. nixon went on a tour of knox (afaik the only president since fdr.) he was, iirc, even permitted to... touch! a bar.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> at any rate, the biggest problem with hoarding gold is the fact that you really have no idea how big your enemy's hordes are << actually, yes, the total gold on earth is known within reasonable precision. one of the few proper fields of statistics.
kakobrekla: at least as accurate as 'time till we run out of oil'
asciilifeform: 1000kg of Au would fit in a large suitcase.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, because oil is locally made. gold was not made on earth, nor by the sun.
asciilifeform: with the exception of neutron-bombardment product.
asciilifeform: (anyone crunch the 'fermi estimate' on it recently?)
mircea_popescu: right...
asciilifeform: the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks')
kakobrekla: nor by the sun. < sure about that? :)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yep.
kakobrekla: so how then?
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny, the ancients thougt the sun and gold are cosubstantial.
mircea_popescu: but in fact stuff past nickel/iron requires a supernva.
mircea_popescu: stuff above lead require a really huge one.
kakobrekla: sun is a star no?
kakobrekla: aha
mircea_popescu: the sun is pretty much the smalest star that'd run.
mircea_popescu: tihnk lawnmower engine.
kakobrekla: nah not that small
kakobrekla: but on the small part of scale yea
mircea_popescu: iirc the smallest star limit is 0.x sun sizes.
undata: meanwhile there are *colossally* bigger ones
mircea_popescu: otherwise you just get a jupiter, aka gas giant. not a star, but a planet.
kakobrekla: red dwarfs would be smaller afaik
mircea_popescu: red dwarves are end products
kakobrekla: of supernova? :)
JorgePasada: I saw this anamation of the lagrange points of Jupiter and how they drag asteroids around the sun with them. Pretty badass.
JorgePasada: don't think about that stuff too often, but that's what kept us alive all these years
kakobrekla: red dwarfs is as much as a star as sun is
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla not necessarily. here's the catch : they evolve slowly, and our models would require them to have no metals
mircea_popescu: maybe some trace li. yet all obseved ones have metals in them. so, must be end products of something else.
mircea_popescu: unspecified what exactly.
kakobrekla: anyway still the measurements are moot
kakobrekla: a reasonably sized undiscovered gold meteorite would change this significantly ?
mircea_popescu: a pure gold meteorite is about as likely as a prostitute with a heart of gold
kakobrekla: so ?
mircea_popescu: not metaphorically. actual metallic gold.
undata: I was too slow to bash :(
kakobrekla: unlikley is also a block at 100 bn diff
mircea_popescu: not so. one's improbable, the other's unlikely.
kakobrekla: whatever
kakobrekla: find the meteorite
decimation: the best place to find them is an ancient ice sheet
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: anyway, meteorites are mostly iron-nickel, much like the eart hand everying else in the solid range
mircea_popescu: this for the obvious reason.
kakobrekla: forget reality will ya
mircea_popescu: lol ok
mircea_popescu: the lulz of all time, of course, is if someone finds a ten or fifty cubic kilometer solid gold meteorite in the ice sheet, however deep
mircea_popescu: and so they dig it out
mircea_popescu: and it turns out it's a ... tungsten rock, with a few milimeters of gold on top
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: wolud be funny but physics wouldn't let that happen, at least no mix of physics I can think of
decimation: http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2014/10/geochemist-gets-view-center-earth <chemistry of lava
assbot: Geochemist Gets View into Center of the Earth ... ( http://bit.ly/14Imigw )
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada which is why it'd be the perfect argument for divine comedy.
JorgePasada: God does not cast dice, just... large metal rocks at the biosphere you're floating around in
danielpbarron: http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?danielpbarron << so this thing doesn't work anymore; did anyone else use it?
assbot: OTC events search ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY55KJ )
mats_cd03: 21:04:31 <+asciilifeform> the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << what would be the purpose of this exercise?
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: what would be the purpose << left as exercise for alert reader
mats_cd03: i am dazed and unalert.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hadn't been using it
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 he wants to klnow if original gold
mircea_popescu: or recently made
decimation: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/536967/Labour-Yvette-Cooper-general-election-vow-toughen-immigration-rules <<lol "She outlined a proposal which would employ another 1,000 border guards - by levying a £10 charge on visa waivers for arrivals from countries such as the US."
assbot: Labour's Yvette Cooper's general election vow to toughen immigration rules | UK | News | Daily Express ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY5tZJ )
decimation: you don't need a visa but the queen wouldn't mind a tenner
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: this trend where us folk are charged to leave their ghetto (pioneered by argentina, of all places) is going to only grow.
JorgePasada: Man, when I was in London this summer
JorgePasada: they were not happy with me
JorgePasada: on the way in
JorgePasada: flew one way
nubbins`: costs me at least a couple hundred to leave this island
JorgePasada: no return ticket
JorgePasada: "Where are you staying?" - 'I dunno'
nubbins`: ^ pro traveller ;p
asciilifeform: 'what time is your return flight?' 'dunno, umm, allah akbar'
JorgePasada: "What do you mean you don't know?" - 'I mean I'm going to a wedding and it's in 3 days and I have a phone and the internet'
decimation: "Shadow work and pensions secretary Rachel Reeves wants to extend the qualifying period for out of work benefits for EU migrants from three months. She also wants to ban child benefit and tax credits for families living abroad."
JorgePasada: "How do we know you won't stay here if you don't have a return ticket?" - 'For starters I can work from wherever I want and It's 3 times the cost of living here..."
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada me coming here, "where are you going to stay ?" "no idea" "you know i have to put something in the machine ?" "recomend a good hotel ?" "x" "wut ?" "X!" "write it down wouldja" guy gives me a postit. "ok, so that's where i'll be staying".
decimation: apparently if you camp for 3 months you deserve a pension
nubbins`: happened to me once: "so you flew to london for a day, spent a week in marrakech... then back to london for 12 hours, and now back to canada?" "ah... when you put it that way..."
JorgePasada: "Ok I'll let you in, even though I shouldn't. Don't come here again without a plan."
asciilifeform: !s papers please
assbot: 9 results for 'papers please' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=papers+please
mircea_popescu: "fuck you, i do what i want?"
decimation: did you play ascii?
asciilifeform: nah just watched demo
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOEt1fuukvk
assbot: Let's Look At: Papers, Please (Beta) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY679K )
mircea_popescu: anyway, i still don't know why anyone in his right mind would go to that stinky, crowded, desperate shitstain of an island.
JorgePasada: I hardly know what I'm doing tomorrow when I'm in the country I live in
decimation: it's a good game
mircea_popescu: they can't cook, they can't fuck and they think they somehow matter.
JorgePasada: when I travel, everything is up in the air :-)
mircea_popescu: worst jamaica ever.
decimation: well, after 100 years of communism what do you expect
mircea_popescu: dude, i expect the world out of 100 years of communism.
asciilifeform: 'airstrip one' !
mircea_popescu: you know the sort of blowjobs you'd get in moscow for a pair of jeans, cca 1993 ?
nubbins`: what sort
mircea_popescu: dja know how you'd distinguish the brothel and the campus housing in Krivoy Rog ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the truely eager sort.
decimation: yeah, they had the kind of communism where there was plenty of cheap shit for the masses, without the upside desperation to motivate self improvement
mircea_popescu: a lot of plastic spoons you mean ?
decimation: hehe yeah
decimation: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5004431/Family-who-are-too-fat-to-work-say-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html
assbot: Family who are 'too fat to work' say £22,000 worth of benefits is not enough - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY6vFb )
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> !up PBMining << shockingly close to PMB.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, yeah goldsmith. not a bad read.
asciilifeform has the dead tree, enjoyed it
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clause_IV
assbot: Clause IV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY6G3d )
asciilifeform found it in a dusty old rathole oldbookery next to his (argentinian!) mechanic's shop
ben_vulpes: argentine, asciilifeform
cazalla: decimation, give em more benefits, i'm over fighting it, better to accelerate the demise
mircea_popescu: wait, you had a workshop in argentina ?!
asciilifeform: he did
asciilifeform: 35 yrs ago
asciilifeform: now - here
asciilifeform: lol pronouns
asciilifeform forgot how to talk
mircea_popescu: so bookshop owner also had a mechanic shop and the two were next to each other but the later was in argentina ?
asciilifeform: l0l!
asciilifeform: apply 'lagrangean' and derive 'most boring' configuration.
decimation: if a lion could speak we would not understand him
asciilifeform: there's your answer.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03:you have potential for the stage my man << he has a point, you know.
mircea_popescu: your pauses are pregnant like a thousand cockapedes fucked them raw.
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2YB0F1K.txt )
asciilifeform: !b 1 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: (a cockapede, being, of course, a creature walking on its cocks)
asciilifeform: naturally, what else could he be?
mircea_popescu: it could be one of those annoying chicks trying to impede sexual congress with their "friends" at parties ?
mircea_popescu: i don't share the power rangers' suspicions of Werner Koch.
mircea_popescu: ftr.
asciilifeform doesn't either
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << video camera inline with sensor axis too, yeah?
ben_vulpes: IMU, why not
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if seen with apparatus, might not come out
asciilifeform: geiger - might fit in arse, conceivably
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we'll visit your gold bars tho.
decimation: http://spaceweather.com/images2014/15nov14/comparison2.gif?PHPSESSID=tgmk0lb92jsrmh0mgkpi5fhvu7 << radiation in-flight
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY7QMb )
decimation: http://spaceweather.com/ "Some experts reading these reports on Spaceweather.com have pointed out that X-rays and gamma-rays represent only a fraction of the radiation present at aviation altitudes. The true dose could be doubled or tripled by neutrons, a component of cosmic rays known to be especially good at delivering energy to human tissue. "
assbot: SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY7VQ2 )
decimation: flying is the new smoking
ben_vulpes: oh i thought we were playing "if i could stroll into the gold vaults with toys" game
JorgePasada: ben_vulpes: Sorry I didn't get back to you the other night, lady friend dragged me kicking and singing to Karaoke
asciilifeform: incidentally: here's a free11!11! mindphuck:
asciilifeform: very sensitive gravimeter can fit in a truck
ben_vulpes: oh there you are JorgePasada
asciilifeform: may be possible to detect a large parcel of Au gravimetrically.
ben_vulpes: what, you don't have your duets locked down?
ben_vulpes: lady v and i do "drunk in love"
asciilifeform: from a good distance.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: some do. google bot runs JS. << last i heard it was buggy as hell
asciilifeform: especially if it is moving.
mircea_popescu: after years in development etc.
mike_c: well, they use chrome
mircea_popescu: lol
mike_c: that's what they built it for
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> what, you don't have your duets locked down? << can you explain this to the innocent ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: u savvy "karaoke"?
decimation: asciilifeform: you can put one on an airplane too
mircea_popescu: oh nm, missed karaorke on first pass.
asciilifeform: gravimeter on airplane, lol
mircea_popescu: i suppose one could put their bed on a gravimeter, the evaluate the fucking quality
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: karaorke << ayn rand singalong?
undata: ben_vulpes: ha, nicely done
undata imagines Rand's singing voice, shudders
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lmao. jus' a typo!
decimation: certainly one would have to take into account http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/BF02520558.pdf
assbot: The downward continuation of aerial gravimetric data without density hypothesis - Springer ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY8GZs )
decimation: the movement of the aircraft
mircea_popescu: so is this qntra down thing actually ? cuz i still see it...
asciilifeform: dead here.
Apocalyptic: so can I
asciilifeform: along with trilema.
mike_c: dead here.
decimation: dead here
mircea_popescu: well, if you can't see it, send me your ip and you too can be whitelisted! ☟︎
undata: dead.
ben_vulpes: m-m-m-ortuary breaker!
mircea_popescu: provided you care enough not to wait.
ben_vulpes: who reads that culty crap anyways
asciilifeform waits for the promised 'unmitigable!11!!1' bomb
decimation: for some reason our ddos friend tends to ddos only at daytime over the pacific
JorgePasada: Man, I have way too many blockchains on this machine
mircea_popescu: decimation well, prolly trying to make the most out of his budget.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, it's intermittent, can't get a post up though :\
decimation: are you saying chumpnets charge 'off-peak' hours?
mircea_popescu: no, but if you only can afford 10 hours a week, what do you do ?
mircea_popescu: pick a coupla days and hope someone cares.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually this is not typically how it works
mircea_popescu is not an expert.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'fine-grained' chumpnet rental is rare, because anyone with half a brain, when allowed to install $turd on a chump's box, can make it semi-permanent
asciilifeform: but infections tend to be regionally-nonuniform.
asciilifeform: hence the hours.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagined the way this works is, an actual provider somewhere gets orders from random derps on whatever forum
asciilifeform: not sure about now, but when folks used to mine 'litecoin' via chumpnet, one could go to various pool sites and see hash rate graphs
mircea_popescu: then puts them in his own machine.
decimation: do chumps actually turn off their computers at night?
asciilifeform: look for the sinusoidal ones
asciilifeform: them there's chumpamatic.
decimation: I guess local routers are more trafficed during daylight
asciilifeform: decimation: users of portable machines tend to disconnect with some periodicity
asciilifeform: (in briefcase, on train, etc)
asciilifeform: and yes, basic homo chumpneticus turns his box off when sleeps.
asciilifeform: and office machine also, when leaves.
asciilifeform: (just as surely part of one or more chumpnets)
kakobrekla: sinusoidal ones < http://shrani.si/f/1W/10N/w9AePX9/steam.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EY9zRJ )
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: precisely this pattern.
decimation: interesting. one can probably determine a fair bit by examine the phase of the sine
asciilifeform: litecoin hash power can probably still be fourier-transformed into these sinusoids very cleanly
asciilifeform: for whatever use that might be.
decimation: at any rate, I'm sure the qntra readers in French Polynesia are disappointed
mats_cd03: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2014/11/18/6/0503000000AEN20141118006200320F.html << lol. koreans smoking the reefer
assbot: S. Korea to raise $500 bln for unification: regulator ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYagui )
ben_vulpes: http://rubygems.org/?redesign << web 3.14
assbot: RubyGems.org | your community gem host ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYajpV )
decimation: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/04/russias-diplomats-are-better-than-ours-105773.html
assbot: Russian Diplomats Are Eating America's Lunch - James Bruno - POLITICO Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYajGn )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/collections-of-views-and-other-impressions-also-from-buenos-aires/
assbot: Collections of views and other impressions. Also from Buenos Aires. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYap0F )
mircea_popescu: well at least assbot can see it.
decimation: " A former U.S. ambassador who had dealt with Lavrov at the United Nations described him to me as disciplined, witty and charming, a diplomat so skilled “he runs rings around us in the multilateral sphere.”"
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/kncminer-moving-to-16nm-plan-to-offer-cloud-mining/
assbot: KnCMiner: Moving To 16nm, Plan To Offer Cloud Mining | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BLjP3q )
mircea_popescu: There is the moral of all human tales '(tis but the same rehearsal of the past) : first Freedom, and then Glory when that fails. Wealth, vice, corruption, barbarism at last. For History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
mircea_popescu: not bad eh.
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: cazalla just between you and me, this bullshit "cloud mining" is a step away from pool mining in the utterly wrong direction.
asciilifeform: lol, 'pmb' crud resurfaced ?!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, but it's in the cloud so it has to be good! soon we will be living in the cloud, storing our wallets in the cloud and mining in the cloud
mircea_popescu: yes, except now pushed by the more corrupt of the mining gear manufacturers.
cazalla: i suspect most of them are ponzi and some operate as such until they collect enough funds to actually mine, fake it till you make it "the secret" type shit
Apocalyptic: cazalla, probably
mircea_popescu: knc is already established and has gear.
cazalla: in the case of GAW, they point to bitmain and had them confirm that they placed an order as proof that they mine and people fall for it all the same
mircea_popescu: a well, sure, plenty of scams. those are of little consequence.
JorgePasada: cazalla: People actually think GAW is anything but a ponzi scheme?
cazalla: eventually someone will come up with the idea of renaming the ponzi to a mining simulator and pitch it as such
mircea_popescu: the fact that chip manufacturers are mostly not selling to individuals anymore, and the fact that mining is moving towards meaningless "cloud" derivatives is some point of concern.
asciilifeform: the vertically-integrated miner i spoke of 1yr ago - is either coming, or is churning already.
JorgePasada: asciilifeform: vertically integrated miner?
cazalla: i imagine knc will mine and then once returns drop, they'll begin selling the cloud services to mine from customers wallets than bitcoin mining itself
asciilifeform: JorgePasada: yes. chip fab, energy/cooling planet, mining house - in one facility.
asciilifeform: *plant
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it finally danwed on me after seeing that comment on the humble proposal to miners
mircea_popescu: that indeed preheating water with the extracted heat would boost efficiency enormously.
asciilifeform: it seemed like an inevitability when turned out that asic is a proposition at all
JorgePasada: I don't think it'll happen, too much concentration of risk. Maybe in like 3 years after the next reward cut
JorgePasada: Maybe then
JorgePasada: But, there would be enormous amonuts of risk in something like that
JorgePasada: that wouldn't be outweighed by the efficiency gains from the vertical integration IMO
asciilifeform: if it does not presently exist, it is solely from lack of sufficiently cooperative physical sovereign.
asciilifeform: as JorgePasada pointed out - 'target-rich environment.'
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada risk in itself is no detraction.
asciilifeform: 'risk' is wrong word. something like a satellite launch is among the highest-risk physical investments - but people do it.
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: No, but you'd have to find a way to not make it a 100% deep 0% wide business, you'd need wiggle room
asciilifeform: but when launching (peacetime) orbital rocket, one is merely gambling, not fighting a war
asciilifeform: gigantic mining op - target.
JorgePasada: if the only point of the thing is to churn out more mining chips to put in the space of the thing
JorgePasada: it's self limiting
mircea_popescu: maybe.
JorgePasada: and if anything changes in the market, it could crash the whole thing
JorgePasada: I mean, if you can say
JorgePasada: improve heating/cooling, etc
JorgePasada: for stuff they're going to do anyway in the plant
mircea_popescu: "The resultant society, however, was still reasonably stable and probably would have lasted a very long time if it had not been for Rome’s expansionist policies, which led to the establishment of the Empire." << this notion, that it was "expansionism" that broke rome's back, together with the previous "Its power was not based on hereditary status but much more on wealth. Such a change in itself must have seriously un
mircea_popescu: dermined the basis of social stability, by substituting the bonds established by “contract” for those dependent on “status” as a basis for social order." are little more than present nonsense anachronised.
JorgePasada: but then instead of going all out with the mining
JorgePasada: Just have the plant be 20% mining but only the 20% where you're gonna be wasting the energy anyway
JorgePasada: or need heat exchangers
JorgePasada: or whatever
mircea_popescu: it is not true that money and wealth is "wrong" or "corrupts", as the fucking protestants would have you believe. it is not true that appetite or expansion are evil, as the puritans would hae you believe.
JorgePasada: that'd be huge
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada you read the comment in question ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not 'evil' but 'car that runs out of gas' as per your stalin article.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that it was trying to administer the lands that ruined them. not conquering them in the first place.
asciilifeform: well yes.
mircea_popescu: well it's a fucking important distinction.
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: Yeah, I'd agree with that quote and your subsiquent comment for the most part
JorgePasada: It's just that, if we're still talking about the vertically integrated mining thing, I don't see it as a viable play to accumulate wealth
JorgePasada: maybe I mis-used the word 'risk' earlier
mircea_popescu: well, why not ? let me run a quick model for you here.
mircea_popescu: 1MW is used to generate hashing power. this means it turns into 9.999 MJ of heat. This heat is extracted, by compressor using 180kJ, and 6MJ of it are used to preheat some water.
mircea_popescu: this water has another .7MJ added by a nuclear power plant, turns to steam, powers a turbine, putting out 1MW of electricity which restarts the cycle.
mircea_popescu: your costs ? .18 + .3 = ~.5 MJ to keep a 1MW circuit going perpetually.
mircea_popescu: this is roughly speaking 3 to 5x the efficiency your competition gets.
asciilifeform: 10 MW ?
mircea_popescu: (i obviously fucked up my digit breaks, but i think the idea carries anyway ?)
mircea_popescu: 1mw, .999 mj, .18mj, .6mj restated.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: well yes, anyone who remembers 'carnot cycle' can follow the outline.
mircea_popescu: right ? turning a simple one way consumer into an actual integrated cycle is huge.
asciilifeform: also note the virtually absent transmission losses (implicit in the customery power plant + distant miners scheme)
mircea_popescu: it's not just "an improvement". it's cultural revolution huge, like the automobile.
mircea_popescu: yup, they were noted.
asciilifeform: all that remains is to place it aboard a sub and pump seawater for cold loop.
mircea_popescu: you and subs srsly.
asciilifeform: also handles physical security very well.
mircea_popescu: you know sub seamen are all gay right ?
asciilifeform: well, in usa.
mircea_popescu: everywhere lol.
asciilifeform: even the swedish female ones?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck do you think can put up with constantly rubbing against other dudes ?
mircea_popescu: women can be gay too.
asciilifeform: who the fuck do you think can put up with constantly << conscripts.
mircea_popescu: c onscripts are also gay.
asciilifeform: whether men conscripted to ru sub turn gay, is an interesting question - but minersub needs only minimal crew.
mircea_popescu: lmao how do you figure ?
mircea_popescu: sub whose only job is to defend itself needs x crew
mircea_popescu: sub that does that + mining needs more, not less.
asciilifeform: well, depends on enemy, no?
mircea_popescu: course these days due to automation, crews are kinda obsolete in both aviation and submersion roles.
asciilifeform: in peacetime - yes
asciilifeform: crew is there primarily to operate weapons (this was not entrusted to automata, afaik, anywhere) and to make repairs.
JorgePasada: asciilifeform: We've had peacetime in the last 100 years?
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: repairs!
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, nixon's term ?
asciilifeform: if no plan to make repairs / fire weapons, dispense with the sub and sink glass miner-spheres as described earlier.
asciilifeform: water-cooled RTG for power.
asciilifeform: net connectivity - exercise for alert reader.
ben_vulpes: !s berkshire mpoe-pr
assbot: 1 results for 'berkshire mpoe-pr' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=berkshire+mpoe-pr
ben_vulpes: !s berkshire bitcointalk
assbot: 0 results for 'berkshire bitcointalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=berkshire+bitcointalk
ben_vulpes: arrrrgh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can i assist ?
ben_vulpes: i seek that bh letter mpoe-pr posted that talks about diminishing returns on hardware investments
ben_vulpes: drew a parallel between mining and weaving
ben_vulpes: i do this once per quarter, i swear
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=201268.0;all <
assbot: ASICMINER vs. Cado.AvalonB3 | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1zBzyx6 )
ben_vulpes: dude how do you do that
ben_vulpes: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/asicminer-vs-cado-avalonb3.120172/#post-2008102 mpoe-pr hanbot mining looms diminishing returns berkshire hathaway
assbot: ASICMINER vs. Cado.AvalonB3 | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1zBzD45 )
ben_vulpes: k well pegged for this search next quarter
ben_vulpes: ty mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how do i do it lol. she's on my payroll and keeps things organised for my convenience ?
asciilifeform: mpoepr on retainer? neato.
ben_vulpes: has it not always been so?
mircea_popescu: afaik.
ben_vulpes: i felt a great disturbance in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: "Also he possessed a wife and child. This, too, was a great innovation."
mircea_popescu: i so loathe it when people try to serve a solid point by pious fraud.
ben_vulpes: as if a million log readers wondered what happened to a slave's salary, and were suddently silenced
mircea_popescu: jupiter had a wife. he was someone's child. etc.
mircea_popescu: “The poor citizen found almost all the spheres in which an honourable livelihood might be obtained wholly or at least in a very great degree preoccupied by slaves, while he had learnt to regard trade with an invincible repugnance." <<< here's a good question. how come the "free citizen" aka, delusional derp can not compete with the slave ?
mircea_popescu: is it that the slave is actually a better human being, strictly for having had the sense to be a slave, and follow the will of a worthy master
ben_vulpes: privilege of having a master :D
mircea_popescu: rather than just pretend like "everything's equalk anyway"
ben_vulpes: americans envy each other the "good boss"
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem of re-reading. i find goldsmith much less on point than i did back when i first read him.
mircea_popescu: coupla decades ago
ben_vulpes: so i've pushed my 0.5.3 up to block 249618, and am now going to run it past the block at which asciilifeform reports wedging, and hopefully all the way to memory exhaustion
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/QWappVgz << check out all the supercool haxing and stuff.
assbot: 0-941.68 /web-console/ServerInfo.jsp HTTP/1.1 - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hir96T )
kakobrekla: btw not too much relevant but i wedged 0.7 at 252450
mircea_popescu: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120310162435/theinternetbox/images/thumb/9/9b/Watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png/620px-Watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HirpD1 )
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: hah no wai recently?
kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/7/i0/1OjqFJZe/bitcoindblocks-day.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1His6fw )
rithm: haxing
kakobrekla: so just over a day ago
ben_vulpes: gtk kakobrekla ty
rithm: who be Krypt Technologies VPLSNET (NET-67-198-128-0-1) -
mircea_popescu: rithm random hoster
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00075787 = 13.0733 BTC [+]
rithm: call Ken Chan
mircea_popescu: https://www.blocklist.de/en/search.html?as=35908
assbot: ASN 35908 - search on blocklist.de for: ASN: 35908 VPLSNET - Krypt Technologies - Hits: 82; ; -- www.blocklist.de ... ( http://bit.ly/1HisKtB )
mircea_popescu: Attacks count: 148 (this month) / 495 (complete time)
kakobrekla: im gonna try with set_lk_max_locks 40000
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla try with 500k
kakobrekla: hm?
kakobrekla: db.log sez >Lock table is out of available lock entries
mircea_popescu: set_lk_max_locks 500000
mircea_popescu: rithm http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=760038 ancient offender for that matter.
assbot: vpls.net spam haven - Web Hosting - Web Hosting Talk ... ( http://bit.ly/1HitkHJ )
mircea_popescu: !up u00
cazalla: ddos back
xanthyos: ;;rate thomas_d -1
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user thomas_d has changed from 1 to -1.
xanthyos: wtf is wrong with you lol
xanthyos: [12:12:03 AM] eric: shouldn't have brought yotu ointo the wot
xanthyos: [12:12:17 AM] eric: i saw that fuck slater come on earlier with "weboftrust" as nis name to troll sophie and me when we were on tinychatr
xanthyos: [12:12:19 AM] eric: your doing i presume
xanthyos: thomas dickov
cazalla: ;;rate -10 xanthyos uses tiny chat
gribble: Error: 'xanthyos' is not a valid integer.
cazalla: anyone know what knife is used in http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1416368270281.webm
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AggIib )
xanthyos: i use tinychat because i'm fucking depressed and i get stuck in my room for weeks at time or stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block
xanthyos: and i don't see other faces otherwise
cazalla: why the kitchen sink?
xanthyos: i got stuck there
xanthyos: i find myself under a faucet of some kind or other for several hours a day
cazalla: like junior did in sopranos?
xanthyos: i try to pretend it's nto a serious medical problem
xanthyos: because i don't externally show symptoms
xanthyos: having to hide my hands when i'm webcam so people don't see me comparing my left index fingernail to my right
xanthyos: to see if any friction amde them uneven
cazalla: i dunno, not having anyone in the house sounds pretty sweet to me, nice and quiet
xanthyos: for 15 years?
xanthyos: i haven't had sex since 2005
cazalla: neither have my wife and i for some time plus she is getting fat so you know, prob won't ever again!
xanthyos: maybe it's good that my emotional vomit is taken with such a cavalier attitude here
xanthyos: it's actually grounding
rithm: what is a tinychat
cazalla: what is wrong with your hands anyway xanthyos
ben_vulpes: so cheery tonight guise wd
rithm: oic
xanthyos: it's an ocd thing
rithm: ^5 i'm ocd
cazalla: xanthyos, it just sounds like you're bitching about a bachelor pad
ben_vulpes: lady v and got stoned and can't remember if we fed the dog
ben_vulpes: see this is why i stopped smoking pot
xanthyos: it sounds one way and is another way
xanthyos: if i could enjoy a bachelor pad i'd love it
cazalla: what do you ocd about?
xanthyos: everything
xanthyos: i count like in the shower
xanthyos: and have to repeat a perfect sequence to get out of it
xanthyos: it's like the most maddening thing and i can't imagine having gotten into it if i didn't get into it
cazalla: xanthyos, come and clean my house then, wife is useless
xanthyos: like painting the brain into a corner
xanthyos: it's not about clean
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Oh response<< any idea what that's supposed to mean ? << Not much, I think @TheRealSolid impiled my stupidity is why qntra is under constant DoS
cazalla: xanthyos, maybe you just need to get laid, i dunno, i mean 10 years is a long time
cazalla: just go out and harpoon the biggest whale you can find, no-one has to know
xanthyos: i don't even want it
nubbins`: ben_vulpes welcome
mats_cd03: embrace the dysfunction
nubbins`: <+cazalla> neither have my wife and i for some time plus she is getting fat so you know, prob won't ever again! <<< lel show her how to irc, maybe you guys can hang out in here together
mats_cd03: the most skilled reverser i have ever met has OCD
mats_cd03: you got that govt dole, what do you do with your free time? smoke pot and go on tinychat?
cazalla: nubbins`, she has facebook and her ipad, too busy with that
mats_cd03: choose something you want to be good at it, and own it.
nubbins`: bummer
nubbins`: guess that's that
cazalla: nubbins`, bummer? yeah right lol
cazalla: xanthyos> i don't even want it <<< but it was the first thing you complained about
xanthyos: not the first, more of a symptom of the whole
hanbot: !up NumberSix_
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitpay-begins-promoting-bitcoin-black-friday-2014/
assbot: BitPay Begins Promoting Bitcoin Black Friday 2014 | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBJEAc )
BingoBoingo: !up n6
cazalla: <xanthyos> and have to repeat a perfect sequence to get out of it <<< is this like, numbers like 2 4 6 8 10 are ok, 5 gets a pass because it can be mulitply to 10 but 1 3 7 9 are annoying?
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 330676 | Current Difficulty: 4.03000303278914E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 332639 | Next Difficulty In: 1963 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 42839414253.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.3012
xanthyos: cazalla: i write down numbers and have to later check them for significance
xanthyos: i google integers often
mats_cd03: xanthyos: http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/numbers.html
assbot: What's Special About This Number? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBMqpf )
BingoBoingo: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Man-tests-positive-for-Ebola-in-Delhi-kept-under-isolation/articleshow/45194610.cms
assbot: Man recovering from Ebola quarantined at Delhi airport - The Times of India ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBMqFJ )
BingoBoingo: !up dartv
dartv: qntra blank page?
mircea_popescu: !up Blutano
mircea_popescu: dartv hit a reload or something.
cazalla: Blazedout419, you paid 14k bezzlers for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472 ?
assbot: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBNvgK )
dartv: oh thanks
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block << this is called "doing the dishes"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: lady v and got stoned and can't remember if we fed the dog << it'd be funnier if you had a cat.
TheNewDeal: they didnt accept bitcoin for the bitcoin art?
mircea_popescu: well starving artist gotta eat.
TheNewDeal: ;b
dartv: kabab
BingoBoingo: !up dartv
dartv: blockstream inc smells like ripple
BingoBoingo: Haven't looked into it too much yet
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
dartv: SPV = so-so security unacceptable for money
BingoBoingo: Eh, SPV wallets have a nich if they are simple, but probably a poor solution for building anything complex
dartv: BingoBoingo: there's a difference between SPV wallets and SPV blockchains
BingoBoingo: dartv: SPV wallets exist. Multibit and the Schildbach Android wallet for example.
BingoBoingo: Dunno how an SPV blockchain works, seems like almost a contradiction...
punkman: dartv: I doubt they'll ever get their sidechain circus running
Vexual: whats spv??
BingoBoingo: Superior Pussy Velocity
Vexual: special purpose?
Vexual: it either is or it isnt
dartv: here's the thing
BingoBoingo: Well, if you try to build a whole chain of Simplified Payment Verification... Probably going to get Sybil attacked to hell
dartv: blockstream will add a few operations that allow locking or unlocking of Bitcoins, called transferring to a sidechain (or transferring back)
dartv: the "unlock this coin" operation uses SPV proof (SPVP)
punkman: dartv, do they need the revised nlocktime stuff for that?
dartv: punkman: no totally unrelated
BingoBoingo: Do they need some other forking behavior?
dartv: this means that the state of Bitcoin's UXTO / ledger is dependent on miners accepting SPV proofs from sidechains
punkman: they need an opcode/softfork
dartv: yeah they need to add these opcodes
BingoBoingo: Ha, they're doomed.
BingoBoingo: No more room for forks
dartv: doesn't mean it won't be attempted. i feel bitcoin will be fractured in the near future
BingoBoingo: Eh, it's always fractured
BingoBoingo: http://practicalfmri.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/a-failed-quench-circuit.html
assbot: practiCal fMRI: the nuts & bolts: A failed quench circuit? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBUbLP )
BingoBoingo: !up free
BingoBoingo: !up free_
dartv: BingoBoingo: so far most people agree which address has how many BTC. i think I mean hard fork
Vexual: https://blockchain.info/address/1EyeKB2BoV6btP3Nhzoqf2dVUpBNdRsd1e
BingoBoingo: Vexual: You run a pool now?
Vexual: Not me
Vexual: I just saw two in two hours
BingoBoingo: Ah
dartv: BingoBoingo: there's definitely room for hard forks
BingoBoingo: I'm not so sure.
dartv: it just has to be uncontroversial enough. something like sidechains? most likely won't pass, but behavior of the bitcoin ecosystem is hard to predict
BingoBoingo: dartv: Well, what sort of hardforks do you imagine could happen?
dartv: BingoBoingo: blockchain forks in reference client, eg apr 2013
BingoBoingo: dartv: Well, that wasn't intention for anyone other than Herr Hearn's handlers
punkman: !up dartv
punkman: ;;gettrust [ident dartv]
gribble: Error: You provided an empty string as argument. Your command: ;;gettrust [ident dartv].
dartv: changes might be snuck into emergency hardforks
BingoBoingo: dartv: Well, that's why there's a new Bitcoin foundation
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: I haven't paid my dues yet
Vexual: I loathe to calc the jukebox rate
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/10WD7CW.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 2 ✂︎
punkbot: [trust-update] added: phillipsjk | removed: phillipsjk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074954 = 9.6691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00074954 = 2.4735 BTC [-]
punkman: punkbot: [trust-update] added: phillipsjk | removed: phillipsjk << there's the bug again. How is that possible when added = new - old, removed = old - new. Also doesn't seem phillip received or lost any ratings.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mr6zw/foundation_survey_results_only_half_of_members/
assbot: Foundation Survey Results: Only half of members even like what they do : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgKDad )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/11/vessenes-bitcoin-foundation-publishes-telling-survey-results/ << ha, not bad.
assbot: Vessenes' Bitcoin Foundation Publishes Telling Survey Results. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgKP9f )
BingoBoingo: It's a pete piece
BingoBoingo: Can't expect less than not bad
punkman: re: "what if you were a slave" https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/534883832198365184
assbot: Abolitionists knew definitions of race were insane. Used it against slaveholders by depicting "white" slaves. http://t.co/tV8SCHQXrH
punkman: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/the-young-white-faces-of-slavery/?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgL2cx )
mircea_popescu: well obviously race as a legal concept is going to diverge from sanity.
mircea_popescu: that's the point of having legal definitions in the first place.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.45, Best ask: 385.16, Bid-ask spread: 1.71000, Last trade: 383.43, 24 hour volume: 13935.50747318, 24 hour low: 371.0, 24 hour high: 387.84, 24 hour vwap: 378.330944475
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1fUzkqwbQ
assbot: Angry Ram takes on a 6 ton digger - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1uuvf5e )
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6G1edfzXY0
assbot: The Angry Ram didn't want me touching his sheep nuts - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgOLH6 )
BingoBoingo: !Up Vexual
Vexual: thats it, im buying peacefulram
Vexual: .cagefight
Vexual: mfc?
Vexual: mma, mad mutton a...
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzYdPMVZsRQ
BingoBoingo: * assets_idle_bot (~fivezerot@unaffiliated/fivezerotwo) has joined #bitcoin-assets << You know... there's a log... ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well I guess it is time for anyone who doesn't already have a cloak to prolly get one.
punkman: http://googleresearch.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/a-picture-is-worth-thousand-coherent.html
assbot: Research Blog: A picture is worth a thousand (coherent) words: building a natural description of images ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgSdS1 )
Vexual: its wrong more often than its right
mircea_popescu: i guess maybe it's time to stoke that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32629 @ 0.00075787 = 24.7285 BTC [+]
Vexual: google?
BingoBoingo: Angry Ram?
Vexual: cat?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00074954 = 7.383 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
punkman: http://threatpost.com/new-research-same-old-problems-with-badusb/109398
punkman: !up Vexual
Vexual: rubber ducky just went soft
Vexual: this is where sd had an advantage; bill gates didnt braintsotorm it
punkman: sd cards?
Vexual: well you still camt get one thats all writable, so dont get too excited
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
punkman: "Everything in our lives is connected to the internet, so why not our toilets? Take a tour of Smart Pipe, the hot new tech startup that turns your waste into valuable information and fun social connectivity."
Vexual: peek poke at a smart toilet
Vexual: yep, it's poo
Vexual: thats basic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00049941 = 6.0678 BTC [-]
davout: ohai all
thestringpuller: jurov:
thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
thestringpuller: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
thestringpuller: stop lying to me
davout: lol
davout: such timeout, very down
chetty: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/18/obamas-flip-flop-on-using-executive-action-on-illegal-immigration/
BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/11/19/043259/debian-votes-against-mandating-non-systemd-compatibility
mats_cd03: whoa whoa
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1700 @ 0.00118436 = 2.0134 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26648 @ 0.00048739 = 12.988 BTC [-] {2}
xanthyos: i broke my penis. ocd was so bad i folded my penis to crack but now it's all deformed and i think i have to go to the ER
TomServo: holy what the fuck.
TomServo: Thanks for letting us know.
xanthyos: dude i have a physical and metal problem
xanthyos: mental
xanthyos: make fun of me
xanthyos: that's waht this room does
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: ER
xanthyos: i can't
xanthyos: theyt contaminate me
xanthyos: i can't be seen or touched by a doctor
mats_cd03: wat
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: The longer you take to get medical attention the less chance your penis has of surviving
Azelphur: not sure if trolling or legit...
mod6: ^
Azelphur: but just in case, most places in the UK will offer to sedate people for treatment if they have extreme anxiety/OCD
Azelphur: just go, explain your condition, they can work around these things
TomServo: what is "folded my penis to crack" ?
xanthyos: TROLL
BingoBoingo: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/sexual-health/expert-answers/penis-fracture/faq-20058154
Azelphur: xanthyos: then I just answered your question, go to ER :)
xanthyos: :( :( :(
xanthyos: SHIT MAN
mod6: then dude, don't be an irc-hero, go get your shaft fixed.
xanthyos: FUCK
xanthyos: I'M SO UPSET
Azelphur: xanthyos: you can't be upset while your sedated, sedation is the solution to lifes problems.
BingoBoingo: Call 9-11, they'll take you in.
xanthyos: YOU KIDDING ME
xanthyos: TO COME TO MY HOME?
TomServo: idk, a beating for a working cock might be worth it.
BingoBoingo: Just tell the operator you broke your dick and need an ambulance
xanthyos: PEOPLE THINK I TRoll because no one on the internet is as overt as i am
xanthyos: i have taken a picture
xanthyos: but i dont' think it's appropriate to link
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Then convey yourself to the hospital in the most expedient manner available
xanthyos: on phone w/dr now
xanthyos: waiting
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You've seen how much porn is on here
BingoBoingo: !s hula hoop
assbot: 1 results for 'hula hoop' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hula+hoop
xanthyos: just bitched at the receptionist for trying to timeslot me when i said i hav ean anxiety disorder, no car, and a broken penis
xanthyos: she doesn't fucking listen
BingoBoingo: https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_madif9XXsg1qfdras.gif
xanthyos: i'm in pain
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You need an ambulance, they'll drug you sooner
xanthyos: that means police
xanthyos: you don't understand that cannot happen
xanthyos: has dpb shared the video with you where they beat the shit out of me, throw me out he ground so my mouth bleeds, and when i shit my pants they say "Good"
xanthyos: i filmed it, it was so truamatic i had to run away and be homeless for 5 months
BingoBoingo: I did not see that one. You however need conveyance to an emergency room
BingoBoingo: !up danielpbarron
xanthyos: i have been shaken uop and truamatized by that since march 2013
xanthyos: i never leave the house
xanthyos: people come over and i don't let them in
xanthyos: i look thru the window which often i cant' even touch
xanthyos: not a troll, promise i'm just exposing my very fragile and sensitive self
xanthyos: maybe the wrong place for it
xanthyos: if it bites me in the ass it won't be the first time
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You need conveyance to a place that can swiftly deliver you to a surgeon.
xanthyos: i only have a bike and it's 30 degrees out
punkman: call a cab or something?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9902 @ 0.00047225 = 4.6762 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6096 @ 0.00049941 = 3.0444 BTC [+]
xanthyos: i'd show a pic to prove no troll
xanthyos: but then it'll be out there forever to be used against me as a joke later
TomServo: We've come this far...
xanthyos: i'm in a panic
xanthyos: and i can't call a taxi
punkman: you don't need to prove shit right now, focus on repairing cocks
BingoBoingo: https://unsee.cc/
xanthyos: so i'm going to ignore the problem
TomServo: That'd be the wrong choice.
xanthyos: and jump in teh shower ande take advil
xanthyos: really?
BingoBoingo: If you ignore the problem you might not hace a dick
xanthyos: what about cavemen
xanthyos: what if there was no doctor
xanthyos: oh i'd be dead by 34 in caveman times
BingoBoingo: Then caveman you would be out of the gene pool, and the rest of your cave tribe would learn from the example
xanthyos: i already have a mood disorder, scoliosis, and bad eyesight
xanthyos: i'd have been dead as a child
xanthyos: i know the things i talk about in this channel are off-topic from bitcoin often
xanthyos: i hope that's not seen as a troll
xanthyos: i act and speak with total sincerity at all times
BingoBoingo: Eh, most thing in this channel are still... to the hospital with you
TomServo: Being off topic is not at all uncommon here, but for the sake of log readers - just go get your shit fixed.
mike_c: srsly.. i could barely read that article on fractures.
BingoBoingo: wikipedia has a picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_fracture
assbot: Penile fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1teEClJ )
TomServo: I stopped at 'audible'.
mike_c: totally not clicking
lampelina: xanthyos, how about if you go to your GP tomorrrow morning
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> xanthyos: stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block << this is called "doing the dishes" <<< hahaha
nubbins`: if it takes you 40 minutes to do the dishes, maybe you should do them more often than once every two days 8)
nubbins`: in 8 hours i've gone from block 190k to block 194k
xanthyos: what's a gp
mike_c: it continues to slow down
nubbins`: general practitioner
xanthyos: i only have a psychiatrist
nubbins`: mike_c no kidding, at this rate i'll be getting a block every ten minutes before too long
nubbins`: :D
nubbins`: xanthyos what if you get strep throat
mike_c: I know, right? that is exactly how I felt when I was loading up a DB with the blockchain.
TomServo: ;;blocks
gribble: 330723
nubbins` sighs
xanthyos: not doing dishes nubbins`
xanthyos: no
xanthyos: that's the cavalier attitude that is passive bullying that is thrown out in this channel a lot
nubbins`: ;;calc (330723-194584)/12000
gribble: 11.3449166667
xanthyos: it must be nice to have all the money in the world and no empathy
nubbins`: xanthyos if you'll examine closer, mp suggested you were doing dishes and i had a lel at his suggestion
TomServo: xanthyos: cavalier is not heading sound advice
TomServo: heeding*
nubbins`: further, get out w/ your "passive bullying"
nubbins`: you want me to rub you behind the ears instead?
BingoBoingo: !s angry ram
assbot: 4 results for 'angry ram' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=angry+ram
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70000 @ 0.00050349 = 35.2443 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: <+cazalla> Blazedout419, you paid 14k bezzlers for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472 ? <<< :0 whoa
xanthyos: my doctor just hung up on me bcv i said he's a faggot
xanthyos: i was testing him to see his empathy and he failed
xanthyos: when i'm in crisis
nubbins`: !down xanthyos
nubbins`: wat.
nubbins`: what the fuck good is being a lord
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Emergency room.
devthedev: ^^
BingoBoingo: Bike there if you must
xanthyos: how
xanthyos: how can i do that
nubbins`: by chatting on itc
nubbins`: *irc
devthedev: Like this, http://image1.masterfile.com/getImage/653-05393281em-Boy-stands-while-riding-bike-with-a-content-facial-expression.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1teJnMg )
nubbins`: BingoBoingo cazalla let's see a qntra story about blazedout's 28btc piece of wood
devthedev: Lol
xanthyos: my doctor hung up bc i spoke out in pain on the line
devthedev: I want to see the pictures so bad.
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Is there anyone local who can drive you?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7938 @ 0.00052983 = 4.2058 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: blazedout's 28btc piece of wood < wha?
xanthyos: no
xanthyos: it's 911 or walking
xanthyos: that's the problem
xanthyos: one of the problems
devthedev: kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846852.0
nubbins`: ^
punkman: xanthyos: pick one of those two and do it
xanthyos: 7 miles walk, 29 degrees
BingoBoingo: http://www.epmonthly.com/departments/clinical-skills/ultrasound/time-is-testicle/
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Gird yourself
nubbins`: BingoBoingo punkman http://i.imgur.com/cPDVJJR.jpg
TomServo: ;;gettrust xanthyos assbot
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xanthyos to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xanthyos&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
kakobrekla: what the fuck did i just read
nubbins`: kakobrekla inorite
xanthyos: you read it, i lived it
xanthyos: it hurts man
xanthyos: and doc's hanging up
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: 7 miles is barely a 2 hour walk
nubbins`: fwiw i see "turning squares" (for lathe work) of this wood selling for $80, 3x3x13"
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: what, you can't walk two hours with a broken dick?
xanthyos: it's about the anxitey of being seen
xanthyos: the mental problem makes the physical so much worse
xanthyos: overwhelming
xanthyos: all i have is a shitty 5 year old computer
xanthyos: i can't even go shopping for a new one because of the ocd in choosing a new one i'm totally locked up
xanthyos: and trying to avoid getting physically locked up in a jail or hospital
xanthyos: i've never trolled this channel
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Could danielpb1rron perhaps convey you
xanthyos: he's an hour away
nubbins`: an hour closer than the hospital
xanthyos: at work
kakobrekla: xanthyos i was talking about the wood.
kakobrekla: anyway go see a doctor. somehow.
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: dude, your dick's been broken for an hour
nubbins`: you could be halfway there
nubbins`: smarten up
xanthyos: they won't even see me because i called the dr a faggot
xanthyos: when i was testing his empathy level on the phone
xanthyos: in pain
xanthyos: that's the borderline personality disorder
nubbins`: uh, the hospital does not, in fact, turn people away for calling doctors faggots
kakobrekla: idk call wildlife control so they shoot you with a tranquilizer then docs can fix you in the while
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You have to be decisive... for your dick's sake
kakobrekla: of administer yourself, call ambulance beforehand.
nubbins`: ooh ooh i know
nubbins`: call your psychiatrist
davout: ^
davout: also wtf am i reading
nubbins`: ^
thestringpuller: "Buterin gets award for inventing Buterin's Waterfall"
BingoBoingo: lol they used a power ranger image http://cointelegraph.com/news/112947/who-will-keep-you-safe-a-comparison-of-bitcoin-wallets-that-arent-digital
kakobrekla: LMAO
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: If you really can't call 9-11, maybe pirate some surgical urology textbooks on thepiratebay and practice of a few hotdogs before self repairing?
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
devthedev: Ha, it's funny that they include Bitsafe first on the list.
BingoBoingo: https://www.tmz.com/2014/11/14/waze-app-neighborhoods-pissed-la-traffic-driving-405/
kakobrekla: https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/
kakobrekla: >Open Whisper Systems partners with WhatsApp to provide end-to-end encryption
kakobrekla: avg yearly supercomputer speedup in top 500, between the years 1993 and 2008: 90%
kakobrekla: this years: 9%
xanthyos: cops are here wtf afk
xanthyos: dpb call
xanthyos: my phone
devthedev: heh
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-refuse-to-waive-security-guard-rules-to-meet-ferguson/article_8e6fbe20-aecb-567a-ad70-caf37db28a6d.html
TomServo: Did xanthyos just get a broke penis swatting?
BingoBoingo: I dunno. Maybe one of the inevitable FBI lurkers that must be here called it in.
devthedev: Maybe
kakobrekla: to save his penis?
nubbins`: "As of October 2014, Pi Wallet is currently sold out"
nubbins`: wat.
nubbins`: "we are currently sold out of raspberry pi. you can buy one yourself from a thousand different places, but uh... we're sold out"
nubbins`: ;;google FBI don't you be watchin' me
gribble: F.B.I. don't you be watching me – Got Your Money - Genius: <http://rap.genius.com/1165168/Ol-dirty-bastard-got-your-money/Fbi-dont-you-be-watching-me>; Ol' Dirty Bastard feat. Kelis - Got Your Money - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moCSndrmBZE>; ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKw5mBh4rYs>
nubbins`: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/12/8-explosive-finds-in-wu-tang-clan-member-ol-dirty-bastard-s-fbi-files.html
assbot: 8 Explosive Finds in Wu-Tang Clan Member Ol’ Dirty Bastard’s FBI Files - The Daily Beast ... ( http://bit.ly/1uw3SaU )
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Well, mircea_popescu says erect penis is a scarce resource. US can't have a penis gap.
kakobrekla: heh
BingoBoingo: How else does one fill the mineshaft gap?
BingoBoingo: !up gx
BingoBoingo: !up danielpbarron
danielpbarron: weird; i thought !up without auth was supposed to give a notification
danielpbarron: anyway his mom called the cops
davout: the guy seems to have a weird mix of sanity and insanity
asciilifeform: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
asciilifeform: lies.
asciilifeform: wtf, while i slept, madness here & broken peni.
BingoBoingo: So it seems
kakobrekla: aha usg stoped making plutonium 238 in 1988, they just ordered it from russia
asciilifeform: why make when fire sale.
kakobrekla: and they got 16kg of it but ru doesnt make it anymore as well
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: building underwater miner?
kakobrekla: RTG sucks for this.
asciilifeform: feel free to use another power source.
asciilifeform: if you can park it on a deep sea volcanic vent, you can omit the R- from the RTG.
asciilifeform: still need heat exchanger.
davout: $10 well spent : poorchan.com
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> weird; i thought !up without auth was supposed to give a notification <<< !up without trust gives notification in-chan
BingoBoingo: !up cb_bitcoin
nubbins`: i should make some more kimbap tonight
TomServo groans.
TomServo: Co-workers creaming themselves over using applepay at mcdonalds.
TomServo: It's like...the future.
thestringpuller: uh. what?
thestringpuller: they said that about google wallet a decade ago
thestringpuller: and the only reason I use it is because google play forces you to use google wallet
TomServo: Nah dude, google wallet is super clunky and slow. /s
thestringpuller: how apple managed to get everyone to use them as a payment processor really kinda mind boggles me
thestringpuller: did the prepaid card scammers finally get found out?
TomServo: Bandwagon effect? I'm not sure.
thestringpuller: payment processors are a dying breed.
mats_cd03: i'm sure it was an easy sell
mats_cd03: 'apple users have money and they want to spend it here'
thestringpuller: so they piggie back on Visa?
thestringpuller: fees already high
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/zy1cRuw.jpg << via reddit (on changetip)
BingoBoingo: Re: smart pipe, apparently World Toilet Day is a thing https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/535099303745028096
assbot: It's World Toilet Day. Why the world must build toilets to save lives http://t.co/Pei7yAJQhG /hashtag/econarchive?src=hash http://t.co/bu9tcPhfgM
BingoBoingo: !s from the sewers
assbot: 3 results for 'from the sewers' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from+the+sewers
asciilifeform: !s the answer lies in the sewers
assbot: 9 results for 'the answer lies in the sewers' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+answer+lies+in+the+sewers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^
BingoBoingo: Ah
thestringpuller: more turd jokes?
thestringpuller: dunno who like turd jokes more, south park, or #b-a
BingoBoingo: I really need to start waking up later than midnight.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nah. a very perverse article re: a figure of the spanish civil war.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: moar diphenhydramine!
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/Ni7t20wY << reposted link just for you
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: d'awww you're so thoughtful!
BingoBoingo: ;;nethash
gribble: 284875346.75
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/535135872753360896
assbot: . /DevinSenaUI I guess it is a good time to remind everybody that in the event of genital injury /hashtag/TimeIsTestical?src=hash http://t.co/lSnpLoBwuN
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
nubbins`: "christ followed"
nubbins`: *follower
nubbins`: i actually thought he was joking
devthedev: Negative
nubbins`: BingoBoingo one of my friends went to the ER with testicular torsion in HS
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/journalist-kevin-kelly-walks-after-internet-luring-charge-stayed-1.2840206
nubbins`: thanks, local police!
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Went this spring
BingoBoingo: Dunno how anyone could not go if it struck them
devthedev: nubbins`: That hurts just thinking about it.
nubbins`: no kidding
asciilifeform was just reading n. m. penzer's classic 'the harem: inside the grand serraglio', specifically the chapter concerning eunuchs, the other day...
chetty: jesus asciilifeform that even bothers me, and I am a girl :P
asciilifeform: i recounted various passages to pet, who cringed
asciilifeform: funny thing is, i haven't the 'cringe reflex'
asciilifeform: perhaps ought to have become a surgeon, or the like.
asciilifeform upon reflection remembers that he doesn't especially like working with meat or similarly ill-behaved materials
nubbins`: meat is perfectly well-baheved if you chill it properly
nubbins`: *behaved
BingoBoingo wonders what better bedrock abstraction asciilifeform might propose to replace meat
mats_cd03: a submarine, obviously
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/buterin-beats-zuckerberg-for-award/
assbot: Buterin Beats Zuckerberg for Award | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqaMB2 )
BingoBoingo: !up SonsofCrypto
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14531 @ 0.00051048 = 7.4178 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Hello SonsofCrypto
SonsofCrypto: thank you!
SonsofCrypto: ...and hello.
BingoBoingo: So what do you do?
SonsofCrypto: I'm currently on workers compensation, playing with exchanges and more recently assets within the cryptocurrency community.
BingoBoingo: Interesting
SonsofCrypto: I've come across this channel and was interested in what it might provide. Hoping to add new revenues.
asciilifeform: 'Victor Mayer-Schönberger -- professor of Internet Governance and Regulation' << lol!!!
asciilifeform: (from qntra link)
mircea_popescu: ;;ident SonsofCrypto
gribble: Nick 'SonsofCrypto', with hostmask 'SonsofCrypto!46b9eb74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.
mike_c: what. the fuck. awards for vapor-ware now?
mircea_popescu: sooo... get in teh wot.
mike_c: i mean, if they had given him the marketing award i would understand
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Well... Time & Life still gets the name of a building while being dyingware.
asciilifeform: 'Paul Graham, Jessica Livingston, Robert Morris, and Trevor Blackwell --- Co-Founder, Y Combinator'; 'Blair Glencorse --- Founder, Accountability Lab (Washington, DC, USA; Liberia; Nepal)' << what kind of satanic circus is this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the kind.
Namworld: BingoBoingo, what's your url again? cazalla too. And anyone publishing Bitcoin related content, really.
BingoBoingo: Namworld: http://qntra.net
assbot: Qntra.net | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbIoP )
mircea_popescu: Namworld http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/
assbot: People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbOwK )
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Also http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com
assbot: Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqbNcl )
mircea_popescu: so am i the only one displeased but unsurprised that not.a.single."foss".implementation out there has yet come up with a way for the user to bind a sole keyboard to kernel bus ? and all others get rejected ?
mircea_popescu: if i was running things that'd have been the only thing being worked on.
mircea_popescu: but no, fucking systemcocks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my machine presently works this way.
mircea_popescu: EVERYONES MACHINE works this way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unreleased for the same reason as your bitcoind ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is the fucking point. it's not just bitcoin "core" that's irrelevant
mircea_popescu: the entire fucking movement is in point of fact about as related to the reality of computers as party clowns are related to fucking.
mircea_popescu: sure, they occasionally rape kids.
mircea_popescu: that;s not so much.
Namworld: Need to have enough traffic. Probably only qntra has enough. Messaging you Bingo
BingoBoingo: Ok
Namworld: Hmm, looks like I'm talking to wrong person.
Namworld: Would need to talk to cazalla or mircea.
mircea_popescu: Namworld so talk ?
Namworld: I have a feeling partner program is not your thing tho. Flat fee for advertising only. You're kind of a no fluff deals guy.
Namworld: We're rolling out rev share program with publishers at Coinroll.
mircea_popescu: ah, that may work well for qntra actually.
BingoBoingo: cazalla should be awake between nao and a few hours from nao
Namworld: So far I've sent email out to gambling directories. It's functional but no interface yet, wao is working on it.
Namworld: So I'm generating reports for now.
BingoBoingo: Oh look advertising on Qntra might start because advertisers are soliciting qntras instead of qntras soliciting advertisers
thestringpuller: Namworld: have you started advert campagin on bitbet yet?
Namworld: We had an ad placed there in the past.
mircea_popescu: !up wao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: movement << lol. perhaps in the sense of 'bowel movement.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's sad yo, back as a wee kitten in romania i had a lotta respect for the whole shebang.
wao: and also chat loaded, but need some styling and polishing over it!
mircea_popescu waves @wao
wao: thanks for + !
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot wao
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user wao: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=wao | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wao | Rated since: Tue Nov 12 12:50:16 2013
mircea_popescu: you know you can self-voice. just pm assbot !up
mircea_popescu: an' that's permanent.
Namworld: He has to complete many things, will push all new features along partner interface.
wao: oh, yes, I'm sometimes lurk here but mostly dont have that opinion that could be readed any other of you .)
wao: not that in nsfw meaning!
wao: yeah, I plan refactor whole coinroll code and convert it to responsive web, as now it's fixed :|
mircea_popescu: lol! dun worry about it, just making sure you know.
wao: just catch up year 2013..
wao: yeah, I know :D
wao: Coinroll - first gambling site that will pay you for UX opinion. <- suggestion for AD
wao ducks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had a lotta respect for the whole shebang << it was a different shebang in those times.
kakobrekla hates responsive web
wao: bit on opinions
kakobrekla: now gimmeh 100 btc
wao: kakobrekla: wai? )
kakobrekla: cause its retarded
asciilifeform: ^
wao: sometimes.
mircea_popescu: let the man run his own business eh.
wao: mostly of sometimes
kakobrekla: NO I WILL RAIN
wao: people want consume digital content on their smartwatchs!
wao: I lately seen Watch SDK
wao: I see it comming, like Swift made it.
asciilifeform: when digital content on smart dildo ?
wao: ^ ^ ^
wao: oh I have content for you!
wao: mircea_popescu: seen this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjZRWNg8k_M#t=609 ?
assbot: The Salad Mixxxer | Infomercials | Adult Swim - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqeACh )
wao: also for 80s kids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
assbot: Too Many Cooks | Adult Swim - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqeN8v )
wao: ok, this is why I dont have voice, spent lot of time of talking )
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: now where was that young whore pic...
BingoBoingo: Moar ANgry Ram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLCb4ewDDc
assbot: Angry ram takes down a drone... and its owner - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/11ixtum )
wao: oh btw
wao: mircea_popescu: did you catch that friends of mine opened only bitcoin caffe?
wao: in Prague
wao: they called it Institue of Cryptoanarchy :)
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mal8zuQyeV1rgj9qto1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/11ixD4F )
mircea_popescu: there we go, balance is restored.
mircea_popescu: wao not bad.
wao: http://www.paralelnipolis.cz/en/
assbot: Paralelní polis | Page about Paralelní polis project ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqfoXD )
wao: Ztohoven art group founded the Cryptoanarchy institute
wao: Ztohoven in english means like One hundred shits
wao: it's pop-art group, which hacked czech parlament
mircea_popescu: lol
wao: oh
wao: here its in english http://ztohoven.com/mr/index-en.html
assbot: The Moral Reform ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqfCOz )
wao: our older project ^
wao: we 'hacked' their phones :)
wao: use timeslider there
wao: see the chaos!
wao: and go with mouse over line
wao: one mistake there was
wao: they found that, that one politic doesnt hold his phone in hand, so how he can send sms? :/
wao: or another was like asleep or sleeping :D
wao: during work hours of parlament :)
mircea_popescu: not bad.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00046347 = 12.1197 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and for our fellow usians watching this : the guy isn't in jale, either.
wao: oh yes, they also did Direct Democracy == published all politics cellphone numbers on wall and attached phone with spoofed sms.
mircea_popescu: because eastern europe is the fucking bastion of western civilisation these days,
mircea_popescu: like the fucking arabs were during the dark ages.
wao: :D
mircea_popescu: which isn't tht far off.
wao farts
wao: right.
wao: here are all messages if you have little time to read it up http://ztohoven.com/mr/msg-en.html
assbot: The Moral Reform - all messages ... ( http://bit.ly/11iy1Ae )
mircea_popescu: pretty cool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0004891 = 4.891 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: bicycles suck http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bono-intensive-therapy-bike-injury-20141119
assbot: U2 Singer Bono to Receive 'Intensive Therapy' After Injury | Rolling Stone ... ( http://bit.ly/1xqlEyL )
asciilifeform waits for BingoBoingo to discover motorcycles
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm vaguely familiar with the concept
asciilifeform: vroom, vroom.
BingoBoingo: I just have trouble beliving in them given the lack of compelling use cases
BingoBoingo: And physics
asciilifeform: 'cheap, angry' low-tech always has use case.
asciilifeform: e.g., someone, somewhere, is loading a bolt into a cranequin as we speak.
BingoBoingo: The concept of the motorcycle also leaves me a bit wary as it can be heisted by a cheap angry compact pickup truck
asciilifeform: cars are 'stolen' (well, officially held for ransom) using an also compact towing crane, where i live
BingoBoingo: Sure they were frequently so in one place i lived.
BingoBoingo: Compact mobile crane "can have problems" too
asciilifeform doesn't see a scenario where 'weight' is a worthwhile pill against vehicle theft
BingoBoingo: Submarines?
BingoBoingo: Also Riot prep is spreading quite a distance from Ferguson http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/11/clayton_businesses_board_up_windows_in_preparation_for_grand_jury_announcement.php
BingoBoingo: For distant readers Clayton is separated from Ferguson by most of St Louis City.
BingoBoingo: URL to static image of google map http://dpaste.com/2GV3VR2
assbot: dpaste: 2GV3VR2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1qXQgSf )
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how have you gotten your machine to only recognize one keyboard?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see my response to mircea: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2014#928972 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2014 19:36:54; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unreleased for the same reason as your bitcoind
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: all i will say is that it is not especially hard to arrange.
BingoBoingo: !up Betcha
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: you will need basic literacy (familiar with building kernel, and at least a rough idea of what the 'moving parts' are therein)
BingoBoingo: Hello Betcha
BingoBoingo: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
asciilifeform: dead
kakobrekla: that function doesnt function
mike_c: ;;isup qietghsaldkf.foo
gribble: qietghsaldkf.foo is down
kakobrekla: turns out qietghsaldkf.foo is really down.
mike_c: maybe it just pings the server?
mike_c: who knows. it does seem too optimistic.
kakobrekla: its using some external service
kakobrekla: lets see
BingoBoingo: So many agencies http://www.bnd.com/2014/11/19/3519695/scott-afb-is-finalist-for-intelligence.html
kakobrekla: ;;isup bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: bitcoin-assets.com is up
kakobrekla: - - [19/Nov/2014:21:10:42 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2418 "-" "SiteCheck - http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com"
kakobrekla: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/qntra.net
assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xquzjB )
kakobrekla: aha
mike_c: hm. that seems legit. I guess they just have better routes or something.
kakobrekla: or brokd
kakobrekla: my up/down monitor sez its down also not working for me this time
BingoBoingo: So we need BTC to hit the moon already so we can roll our own transoceanic fiber.
kakobrekla: if its going to the moon you need lazers or dunno space elevator
kakobrekla: actually you need both
kakobrekla: (the lasers are for the kitties)
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Prolly can encode BTC transactions in Baudot and send to the moon with lasers
kakobrekla: yeah but need some mighty lazerz and clear sky
kakobrekla: prolly just like the one ascii has or something
BingoBoingo: Not so sure about clear sky, can prolly just use stronger laser
asciilifeform: outdoor laser in usa without approval of the crown -> gasenwagen.
kakobrekla: well yeah if you can burn a hole in the universe you can prolly flash to moon
kakobrekla: i guess it strongly depends on recipient
kakobrekla: if you have phone camera or a kepler on the other end
BingoBoingo: Oh, the recipient is simply the moon.
cazalla: holy fuck logs, what reading!
thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
thestringpuller: lies again
BingoBoingo: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/830032-lucy-mancini-stood-between-godfather-and-the-classic-status << Fucking SJW's shitting on a classic
BingoBoingo: !up mp_ohwhoa
BingoBoingo: Obamacare strikes again: http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/tammy-duckworth-nancy-pelosi-democrats/
assbot: Democratic Caucus Angry Tammy Duckworth Denied Proxy Vote ... ( http://bit.ly/1F4Pf37 )
cazalla: BingoBoingo: https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_madif9XXsg1qfdras.gif <<< that's mean! to tempt his penis while broken
BingoBoingo: cazalla: People need to understand the urgency of their situations
BingoBoingo: And maybe he'll get revenge with pictures of the gross sutures
cazalla: xanthyos: my doctor just hung up on me bcv i said he's a faggot <<< that's a good example of "passive bullying"
cazalla: nubbins`: BingoBoingo cazalla let's see a qntra story about blazedout's 28btc piece of wood <<< identifying wood.. it's wood type article? heh, i wouldn't buy that but i'll leave the man alone to enjoy his wood collection
cazalla: xanthyos: when i was testing his empathy level on the phone <<< are you sure you're not a woman?
cazalla: danielpbarron: anyway his mom called the cops <<< is she trying to get him killed or what
mats_cd03: hey man, you're actively bullying him
mircea_popescu: sooo, here's a bit of adventure :
mircea_popescu: an outbound router i sometimes use got attacked earlier.
mircea_popescu: no idea exactly how this worked, will know more once the cutup shop is done cutting it up. in any case, it had an over-the-net update somehow.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being :
mircea_popescu: one sec here lemme get this stuff.
mats_cd03: huhu
mircea_popescu: over http
mircea_popescu: the only problem being that the server is supposedly inactive, HOWEVER
mircea_popescu: originally it actually showed an favicon.ico.
mircea_popescu: holy shit all these image pastebins want you to "malke an account wtf"
BingoBoingo: unsee.cc
BingoBoingo: imgur
BingoBoingo: ^ no need for accounts on either
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/sDH6qj4q << here it is.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1qu0sXO )
kakobrekla: sez bbr
mircea_popescu: now wtf is that.
kakobrekla: idk, something to harvest our ips
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: nah, im preliminary convinced this is the nsa something-or-the-other
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2014#928590 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2014 09:07:55; BingoBoingo: * assets_idle_bot (~fivezerot@unaffiliated/fivezerotwo) has joined #bitcoin-assets << You know... there's a log...
chetty: trying to install a sniffer?
mircea_popescu: anyway, that favico was briefly reditrcting to earlier, which is why i went to all the trouble of pasting it etc.
mircea_popescu: chetty, i imagine some sort of dns mitm or whatever noob "techz" the nsa script kiddies worship\
punkman: icon is from broadbandreports.com
cazalla: well, fivezerotwo did tell me he would have a surprise for #b-a in a few days
punkman: ip is LiquidWeb
cazalla: i thought it would amount to nothing more than ddos of pizza deliveries though
mircea_popescu: punkbot, yeah, but supposedly nothing was ever hosted there.
punkman: it's a nameserver, has like 10k websites associated
mircea_popescu: yes, but not on port 80
BingoBoingo: I suspected he was going to DoS home ips
mircea_popescu: what is this, the 90s ?
kakobrekla: ;;isup the 90s
gribble: the 90s is up
kakobrekla: yea
BingoBoingo: The 90's are far enough in the past for some people to have nostalgia
mircea_popescu: anyway. bbl.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/11/everybody-pivots/ << Vessenes foundation is pivoting to address the mod6 - ben_vulpes foundation
assbot: Everybody Pivots | The Bitcoin Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1qu90hq )
davout: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
davout: seriously, it's just me, on different computers, with different connections
davout: dafuq
rithm: sometimes i can't get to things on the internets and usually may tracerout to that ip fails but ymmv
cazalla: for anyone interested in how nigga rabbit is turning out http://imgur.com/BGJPGEo,k70wuHr,rKfwm6Z,BQjmVpr
cazalla: davout, it's down here too, all morning as well as last night before zzz
davout: rithm: thanks for the tip, just had a look seems DNS related
rithm: DNS is a good place to start too
davout: dig NS qntra.net doesn't yield shit
rithm: i was gonna type that but i thought it was condescending :)
rithm: you know i manage like Tier A support peeople
davout: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 64465
gribble: Error: "->>HEADER<<-" is not a valid command.
rithm: i have to remind them of what the fuck DNS is every goddamn day
rithm: like. every. day.
davout: SERVFAIL
davout: SERV. FAIL.
davout: hmm
davout: "SERVFAIL means that the domain does exist and the root name servers have information on this domain, but that the authoritative name servers are not answering queries for this domain."
kakobrekla: this works if whitelisted
assbot: Qntra.net | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1qucJM3 )
davout: kakobrekla: domain names, too fucking mainstream
kakobrekla: also bit.ly link, sortof works
kakobrekla: davout totally hipster
davout: kakobrekla: what exactly do you mean by "whitelisted" ?
kakobrekla: !s whitelist
assbot: 61 results for 'whitelist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=whitelist
davout: as in name-mapped in my hosts file?
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-11-2014#928213 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2014 02:41:42; mircea_popescu: well, if you can't see it, send me your ip and you too can be whitelisted!
kakobrekla: but yeah, hosts fix would fix dns issue
kakobrekla: but that whitelist is separate from dns
davout: kakobrekla: so you need to be whitelisted only when accessing it directly by IP?
davout: or is this some whitelist-only mirror?
kakobrekla: going by ip works most of the time but apparently not all the time
kakobrekla: when it doesnt, whitelist helps
davout: deterministic behaviour, too fucking mainstream
davout: :D
kakobrekla: :)
davout: who configured the DNS ?
kakobrekla: idk
BingoBoingo: idk either
danielpbarron: 05:22 <+BingoBoingo> I suspected he was going to DoS home ips << p.sure that's what happened to me this morning
BingoBoingo: Well, prolly best to not connect or join chan without cloaks
kakobrekla: cant you stone someone to death over the internet?
danielpbarron: i wish
BingoBoingo: Can't hide daggers in our IRC cloaks either, scam
BingoBoingo: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/11/19/tms_azide_explosions.php << Fucking Azides
BingoBoingo: !up RagnarsBitch
danielpbarron: for those interested in an update to the "broken penis" drama; xanthyos went into surgery today
davout: danielpbarron: good for him, he seemed to be in quite a bit of pain and stress earlier
mike_c: did they unbreak it?
davout: mike_c: no everything went ok, they didn't have to cut it
danielpbarron: i don't know the results of the operation yet
mike_c: hehe. too much whining led to the penis just falling off ;)
mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2l1o4OckA
assbot: Until The Ribbon Breaks - Revolution Indifference - Feat. Run The Jewels - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1yqoTo2 )
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> did they unbreak it? << Reading up on the surgery today what the surgeon probably did was open it up to clear out the colugulated blood, sutured the broken boner fascia, and then put the whole thing back together as best they can
davout: reddit is priceless : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mq4bg/even_coinbase_are_now_talking_in_bits_bits_is/cm7elff?context=3
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Did he make it out of surgery yet?
mike_c: that's going to be a hell of a scar.
danielpbarron: i don't know; no contact since he was about to go in
davout: not to mention a story that's carved in the logs rock
mats_cd03: i will pray for the safe return of his dong
mats_cd03: in all of its glory
danielpbarron: to which god(s) will you be praying?
davout: lol
mats_cd03: mp
danielpbarron: does he do cock restoration now?
cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mt0bu/if_you_are_the_hacker_who_was_using_my_computer/ ouch! who installs teamviewer on same pc as a wallet with 50 btc?
mats_cd03: i have faith he does
mats_cd03: (on another note: if mp's ego explodes, and no one is around to see it, did it really happen?)
danielpbarron: "This one really hurts.. like I got punched in the gut and betrayed by a friend." << lol thief is now his friend, or bitcoin is his friend; guy got his feelings hurt
danielpbarron: the address he included doesn't have any transactions, so i'm guessing he still has just the 0 bitcoin he probably started with
BingoBoingo: davout: Paymium should have an option to dispay BTC amounts in Butts, where a But = 210,000 BTC
davout: sounds like a plan
BingoBoingo: davout: Butts simplify the monetary base since there's only 100 of them
BingoBoingo: davout: And when you implement the optional Butts denomination pls tell Qntra first for exclusive story and great /r/Bitcoin troll
davout: incidentally 1 butt-bit ~= 2.1 bitcoin
davout: i would totally click on qntra's contact link, if only it accepted to load
BingoBoingo: Magic how powers of 10 work. And a bitty bit butt would be 210 satoshis so still better than reddit currency.
BingoBoingo: Could be huge on /r/bitcoin and /r/buttcoin
davout: i think we could make a better headline : "How decentralized micro-tipping helped a man get his broken cock fixed"
BingoBoingo: Now, that could be two stories.
BingoBoingo: ALso apparently starfish Obola is a thing nao asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/11/virus-may-be-the-culprit-in-a-disease-thats-wiping-out-starfish/
assbot: Virus may be the culprit in a disease that’s wiping out starfish | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1tgZ7y5 )
cazalla: he could even use tips to pay for extension/reduction depending on the circumstances, in for surgery anyway so why not
BingoBoingo: And if the surgery doesn't work out, with the malpractice insurance money maybe he can reverse Buterin's waterfall.
BingoBoingo: WHile buying more cock repairs
BingoBoingo: 5 feet tall and 300 lbs, typical rent a cop http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/11/18/crime-fighting-robots-go-on-patrol-in-silicon-valley-k5-knightscope-mountain-view-stacy-stephens-autonomous-security-guard/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://github.com/joric/brutus/blob/master/webadmin.py << your turd appears