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billymg: ok, so trilema logs uses `word-wrap: break-all` on the entire content column. i used jfw's suggestion
of `white-space: pre-wrap` on the
code column because it wraps long
lines without splitting individual strings
mircea_popescu: there's the argument that very long
lines are a symptom
of poor writing habits, and if one re-wrote his
code such that "fitting
code to viewport" is never an issue the
code won't thereby suffer (and if this means ditching idiocies like "object oriented" and dead-end wanna-be nonlanguages -- well, it's a public service).
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 09:36:02 dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm thinking to keep it simple along the
lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a
code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading the log is recommended for
dorion_road:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955110 << I'm thinking to keep it simple along the
lines of : 1) register a key, 2) install a V, 3) maintain a blog where you : a) maintain a
code shelf , b) publlish your work plans , c) publish articles for context on your vpatches, 4) maintain an irc connection to converse with people (point out '6 months' reading the log is recommended for
mircea_popescu: ^ link above should be alf's "only so many
lines of code within before madness", but i can't find it.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-05 04:47 asciilifeform: as a student, i was once told by a greybeard: 'you're young, but know that you have X
lines of code in you. after that - log cabin.'
lobbes: asciilifeform: sounds good. So far it ate 160k
lines of #e archive. However, found a bug in my znc2tmsr
code where if line payload was null, my thing did not output a ';' at the end
mircea_popescu: you give out a little bit
of yourself each time. and eventually, down the road, after enough dealmaking, you discover there's nothing actually left. this is very much the equivalent
of alf's point re "only so many
lines of code in one before insanity", except for business people, those who are too dumb to realise it on their own.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 23:30 mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-29#1916138 << this incidentally is as fine a measure
of code quality as could ever be hoped for : DLC, "disentangled
lines count", the number
of lines which can be changed.
mp_en_viaje: meaning in a 160k
lines of code, 78 can actually be edited.
mp_en_viaje: But if you don’t like <pre> or it looks stupid in your browser no matter what styles you try to apply to it or something similar, you might want to use a <div> instead. A <div> will result in more source - GeSHi will have to insert whitespace markup - but in return you can wrap long
lines of code that would otherwise have your browser’s horizontal scrollbar appear.
Of course with <div> you can not wrap
lines if you please. The highlighter demo
billymg: the patch removes tinymce, most
of the importers, and some unused plugins -- overall reduction
of about 15% in
lines of code and close to 20% in size on disk (since some
of the files removed were minified files containing only one line)
mircea_popescu: but the 1900s gold dubloons do NOT work for this. because
lines of code, or "eyeballs upon cell cultures" are NOT like barels
of fish.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 09:56 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869273 - a config file seems the better choice, yes; I'll add it to the list to move the keys to a config file and update the tests to read from config file; that should actually meet asciilifeform's requirements too since the
code will not contain the >80cols
lines (although the config files will,
of course)
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869273 - a config file seems the better choice, yes; I'll add it to the list to move the keys to a config file and update the tests to read from config file; that should actually meet asciilifeform's requirements too since the
code will not contain the >80cols
lines (although the config files will,
of course)
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: 32 is a very simple thing and absolutely easy to lift and package into 52
lines of code in the .adb file + 130 in the .ads file so 182 all in total1, comments and two types
of input (string or raw array
of octets) included."
Mocky: when stepanoff starts talking about a guy who writes 77k
lines of code and earns a raise, should instead get a $77M fine, i started listening more closely
a111: Logged on 2018-06-06 12:59 mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty
lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations
of "how long
code should be".
mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty
lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations
of "how long
code should be".
☟︎ spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges
of productivity follow from *all* the
lines of mp-wp
code and is more than the sum
of each, or whether there's a lot
of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number
of lines to
☝︎ mircea_popescu: to be clear, i'm not for a second disputing that such piles
of lines of "
code" are a scandal and an outrage before god. but i wish to know what we're to do.
mircea_popescu: spyked, i don't see how this distinction works. what does "eliminate word from vocabulary" even mean, you'll take out some classes/dependencies/whatever out
of a pile
of lines of code, leaving a them-shaped hole behind.
phf: yeah i like it, 9
lines of code caaddr: sure, it was millions
of lines of code wasn't it?
ben_vulpes: how many
lines of code did you kill today!
phf: there's a couple
of places where regex is used. exclude filters files by name, (so --exclude=.*c will skip those files by regex), exclude
lines filters
lines (obviously is not compatible with v), and there's also a function grabber, it's a little piece
of code that ensures that, say, c function headers or certain pattern matching
lines are in the hunk context
gabriel_laddel_p: incidentally, my CLIM implementation is 99,676
lines of lisp
code, as calculated by sloccount just now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 12:22 <@fenn> how many
lines of code is OCC? <<< see, he is asking the right question. i knew my patience will be dug back out from the hole by the unfolding
of events!
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 02:35 sina: and you contend the actual final implementation
of such a thing will actually be less
lines of a
code than the existing thing
mircea_popescu: sina does sqlite have unicode support ? if it does, then it will necessarily be less
lines of code.
sina: and you contend the actual final implementation
of such a thing will actually be less
lines of a
code than the existing thing
☟︎ erlehmann: i have yet to see a build system that can do so much in so few
lines of code sina: I keep taking the debug
lines out because it's fucking impossible to follow the logic
of the
code with them in
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:09 Framedragger: so instead
of writing
code i now need to write a
code editor which can break
code lines code-semantically? :/
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:07 asciilifeform: fact. there is not a proggy that will intelligently, cleanly, break
lines of code in every known lang
Framedragger: so instead
of writing
code i now need to write a
code editor which can break
code lines code-semantically? :/
☟︎ ben_vulpes: this was two
lines of code with a lambda
mircea_popescu: the continual ejection
of lines of code which "Who knows, maybe they're useful"
mircea_popescu is in no terrible hurry to produce menny
lines of code.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:04 mircea_popescu: ah. the way i was thinking this'd work would be : the bot answers to any
lines where its name is mentioned ; and i can update its "brain" with a !^ url style command. whereby it replaces its "ai"
code with the content
of the file.
mircea_popescu: ah. the way i was thinking this'd work would be : the bot answers to any
lines where its name is mentioned ; and i can update its "brain" with a !^ url style command. whereby it replaces its "ai"
code with the content
of the file.
☟︎ diana_coman: and it manages to have some half million
lines of code doing the job
of maximum 100k by the looks
of it
ben_vulpes: it is used to further drive down the cost
of human cogs crapping out
lines of code phf: ben_vulpes: connect to these and only these is a trivial change, since the logic all sits within 30
lines of code, but ^
a111: Logged on 2016-11-19 16:07 pete_dushenski:
of lines of code and that many chinese sensors ~will~ fail at some point. and it will be unexpectedly. and catastrophically.
pete_dushenski:
of lines of code and that many chinese sensors ~will~ fail at some point. and it will be unexpectedly. and catastrophically.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't, not really. as pissed off as i/anyone can be, "What I currently see as best option is to actually comment out those 2
lines of code. But I have no idea what effect this really has on the RNG. The only effect I see is that the pool might receive less entropy. But on the other hand, I'm not even sure how much entropy some unitialised data has. What do you people think about removing those 2
lines of code?
mircea_popescu: aha. because you're copying me rather than copying the idiots with their "programmer's claw" in doing it. if you wrote 50k
lines of code a year you'd have it too.
mircea_popescu: let three
lines of A
code be ambiguously interpretable to mean 5 different things, so that a million
lines of A
code become a very clearly useful, controllable item.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 09:54 mircea_popescu: ps : why is "common wisdom" in agreement that "no man could possibly hold 1mn
lines of code in head" when i actually have 10mn words worth
of trilema articles in my head ?
mircea_popescu: ps : why is "common wisdom" in agreement that "no man could possibly hold 1mn
lines of code in head" when i actually have 10mn words worth
of trilema articles in my head ?
☟︎ phf: reload particularly needs to be fixed, and it's perhaps 5
lines of code, but requires dropping one large context, and lifting another to do it intentionally. as is whatever fixes done to log str result
of background radiation noise like effects
of my brain, "i suddenly remember relevant bits, and here's the solution, go write it down"
ben_vulpes: "minimalist" means "i made an epic shitton
of assumptions and then laid down a zillion
lines of code in support
of those assumptions"
mircea_popescu: the principal specification
of any machine, not JUST computers, not just software stacks, not just
lines of code, is to specify what it can never do.
mircea_popescu: he decides he wants to add three
lines of code to bitcoin. what HE does, in republican world, is write those
lines of code, sign them, add his own sig in the wot and voila.
mod6: and it eliminates at least 167
lines of code.
ben_vulpes: removing dead
code is good, far better than rewriting the log
lines. just split it out so that it can be reviewed seperately from the two thousand five hundred and ninety odd other
lines of that patch.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 15:23:26; mircea_popescu: specifically, imagine a future in which every line
of code has 100
lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> specifically, imagine a future in which every line
of code has 100
lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison) << I never thought
of it this way.
mircea_popescu: specifically, imagine a future in which every line
of code has 100
lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison)
☟︎ ben_vulpes: the sample
code had some declarative rules, and your complaint was something along the
lines of "why'd they get rid
of the parens?!"
assbot: Logged on 29-12-2015 17:11:50; punkman: ;;later tell asciilifeform in my current V-tron's conflict detector I check whether two patches modify the same file. I could trivially extend this to detect conflicts at line-
of-
code level. What would be a good way to apply two patches that modify different
lines of the same file?
punkman: ;;later tell asciilifeform in my current V-tron's conflict detector I check whether two patches modify the same file. I could trivially extend this to detect conflicts at line-
of-
code level. What would be a good way to apply two patches that modify different
lines of the same file?
☟︎ PeterL: would just require a couple more
lines of code when opening the wordlist file
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 03:44:18; ben_vulpes:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [
of lines of code] betrays your complete lack
of understanding on the topic
of control systems we can revisit this
mod6: it's only 2 more
lines of code really. so it's not a bad solution, and this affords me not to have to require perl 5.12 or greater.
mircea_popescu: but see, you wish to link to "
lines of code" except these are lower than the minimal granularity ; they only catch meaning after the ast was derived from the whole program
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 16:45:38; ascii_field: because i can't link to individual
lines of code there.
ascii_field: but now it will have to wait, until i can link to
lines of code.
ascii_field: because i can't link to individual
lines of code there.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: works fine for
lines of code. i guess if i programmed more.
mircea_popescu: if every person on earth wrote just 50
lines of code, which is a very small number
of lines of code to write for the progress world etc,
punkman: "estimates that the software needed to run all
of Google’s Internet services—from Google Search to Gmail to Google Maps—spans some 2 billion
lines of code."
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 06:26:09; mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> nano sources: Total Physical Source
Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577 << win. srsly.
mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> nano sources: Total Physical Source
Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577 << win. srsly.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: nano sources: Total Physical Source
Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577
ascii_field: that is, add
lines of code, or add effort necessary to understand per-line