lobbes: jurov: why not use the auctionbot?
lobbes: so, for e.g. something like "!Xsell 0.33bn 120 2k wFF"
hanbot:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867497 << not even so much interest, i was more or less drafted. i'm happy to do whatever i can, but i see multiple issues here; i don't in any case want to take your seat, and honestly i don't think "outreach" is a splinter of the foundation's operation, fit for a single person. afaik it's the core of what the thing was supposed to do, and the core of its failure to date, and given a potentially unbounded budge
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 02:26 mod6: hanbot: Still have interest in an offical Co-Chair seat for the Foundation?
hanbot: t and a by now insanely oversaturated market, i can't imagine anything less than hundreds of hours/week is going to save it. i don't have the hours to make it my sole concern, but i do have some to help out. i think it'd be a shame to kinda decoupage some tasks here and there to a floundering ship. as much as i'd like to see it sail, seems obvious to me that here and there won't cut it at all.
mod6: jurov: lobbes has it, I think an auction is the way to go here.
mod6: hanbot: Thanks for your thoughful response.
mircea_popescu: it's certainly true my hope lo so many years ago was that the foundation will provide the basic material (people, expertise, history, and so on) upon which to construct these days a republican diplomatic service ; rather than a library.
jurov: I don't get why I should run the auction and not mod6 but let's try
jurov: !Xsell 0.33bn 120 2k wFF
auctionbot: Sell order # 1005 created by jurov: 2k wFF Opening: 0.33bn ecu Ending: 2018-11-08 20:13:41.320151 UTC (119 hours)
mircea_popescu: truth be told it'd work equally well either way, but i dunno, they really really wanna be bidding fror some reason.
Mocky: mircea_popescu, I've spent the day going over and cleaning up my outstanding notes to date. I have 6 blog posts that will be dropping the last of which is my evaluation of where I'm currently at with this thing.
mircea_popescu: lmao, that's rich, work slowdown the factory bosses don't even fucking notice.
mircea_popescu: (do you have a knob so i don't have to be moderated every single time ? cuz that's a major chill factor)
Mocky: I don't have moderate per se. I have a manual process where by if i type in "pull-comments.sh" i see if there are new comments to manually copy paste into the document
Mocky: hey! i didn't want to wasted time implementing a big comment thing when i get 1 comment per month
ben_vulpes: not much to report, still assembling personal workstation
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 20:11 Mocky: i can't stomach php, which probably sounds rich coming from hardcore java dude. my www is static files and one old school cgi to python for comments
ben_vulpes: Mocky: there's not much stomaching involved with operating an mp-wp. it's a pretty feature-complete blog; if you really want a custom template you can buy one.
mircea_popescu: "they sit around during the late morning and early afternoons having coffee and sweets." << you know i do this shit too ? must be the middle easterner in us.
mircea_popescu: naramnzi water and shisha, laze about post brunch... very levantine i guess.
diana_coman: afaik *those* are the only ones, let me know if there is anything else
diana_coman: the fact that I have to manually and arbitrarily split strings that in fact are of any use only un-splitted
diana_coman: onth I suppose that the 80cols rule either is or isn't, so it should apply even to strings that make no sense split, a bit of cutting to fit the bed style
diana_coman: Mocky, "on while goose chases" - wild, I suppose
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I know but I still don't fully buy it, it seems
diana_coman: it still seems at best silly to manually split strings that one would than have to merge if they want to use as such somewhere else
☟︎ ben_vulpes: and workstation back online. gentoo happily boots from its original sata port on the motherboard, but hangs at "loading the kernel" when that drive is plugged into any other other sata port.
ben_vulpes: will be making new contacts in the next month to find a shared cab for racking the foundation machine i lugged across the continent
diana_coman: Mocky, hm, I thought it was "trust Allah but tie camel", apparently they lost the 2nd part?
Mocky: more like trust Allah and don't be the faithless one studying knots
diana_coman: sounds more like a study in "how unearned wealth can screw you up" basically
BingoBoingo at some point going to have to dive into reducing mysql ram usage on rockchip
Mocky: ^ Ok this is my last post of the night. Going to sleep now
mod6: jurov: Ok, that's probably a better way : We'll start the auction, and you can bid on it. We'll do this going forward.
mod6: lobbes: do you have a list of commands for auctionbot somewhere?
mod6: !Xbuy .311bn 100 2k wFF
auctionbot: Buy order # 1006 created by mod6: 2k wFF Opening: .311bn ecu Ending: 2018-11-08 13:48:41.550007 UTC (99 hours)
mod6: jurov: go ahead and Xcancel your auction #1005, and plz to bid on mine (#1006)
☟︎ mod6: ben_vulpes: cool, thanks.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 18:32 diana_coman: it still seems at best silly to manually split strings that one would than have to merge if they want to use as such somewhere else
mircea_popescu: diana_coman imo such items belong in a config file then. though he prolly wants the ~config~ file to also be "human readable" by which he means hard-paged at 80 cols like for idiots. because there's no such thing as a terminal, nor user settings, and i gotta format my text in a way that's aware of his dumb terminal. and he thinks this acceptable, somehow, that at the time i write i must bear in mind how he'll later read.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-03 22:38 mircea_popescu: Mocky so i guess next step is make an appointment with their minister of technology, industry, or whatever the fuck, explain to the secretarial overseer you end up seeing that the republic is in principle willing to do some tech transfer help them become a real country, exchange confused nods and handshakes and set the bozo bit on the ball of faux carpeting yarn pretending to be a country ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform srsly now, 80cols is a terminal setting. text may not have line breaks for any reason other than new paragraph.
mircea_popescu: i feel about "this string has spurious /n inserted in random places" about the same way you feel about FG getting random control bits pissed into the stream by "helpful" wrappers.
mircea_popescu: IF you can't configure your termina, either get a better one or understand you're at fault for your own pain.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the line as a semantic unit is as long as it fucking is, and the terminal deals with it.
mircea_popescu: and i know no reason vtron must have "max line length picked in advance" either.
mircea_popescu: in any case i don't want control bits spuriously pissed into the stream. what next, <em> ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a legacy definition of "text" type in eulora comms protocol specifically for this conversation.
mircea_popescu: "first section is 1 byte long, encodes length of 2nd section ; 2nd section encodes length of payload".
mircea_popescu: hey. i won't mandate her she write long lines, if she manages in 80 cols all the better. but i will mandate she dun do " & " bullshit.
mircea_popescu: so not only we agree to disagree -- but there's gonna be long lines in there cuz that's how long a line is.
mircea_popescu: "stop" means to take "text" and turn it into "te<controlchars>xt" and that's so fucking stupid...
mircea_popescu: srsly now, move on to an adult terminal that can flow the semantic unit for your needs.
mircea_popescu: and if emacs can't do this, emacs is plain and unadulterated garbage is all.
mircea_popescu: my fucking 24 dot matrix tractor unit could flow. what.
mircea_popescu: sounds like you're in the market for a printer driver that doesn't suck.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 23:45 phf: in a proper program 80 col is an indicator of s/n, density and all kinds of lateral properties, that can be communicated between professionals, because you can know ahead of time, what you're dealing with by shape, and have a rough estimate for the token count
mircea_popescu: but yes, i ask your terminal be aware of the syntax. it must be. because the alternative is having me be aware of your terminal -- and that ain't occurring.
mircea_popescu: standard line length may not be shorter than common lines. which among other things will be rsa keys. so it'll be, willy nily, over 80.
mircea_popescu: there can be such a thing as a standard length, yes. but apparently it'll be 512 bytes+
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact all your terminals suck isn't an argument in this convo.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it is not possible to fix the wrong end of this funnel.
hanbot: why not just display it in 2pt and get a monocle, yeesh
mircea_popescu: reflow you like ; or else wider lines ; or anything that works for you.
mircea_popescu: basically, any time you go "this string should contain control characters for my convenience" you are living in a state of sin, and should remedy.
mircea_popescu: but the only way to ever get there is if we run out of town this "let's mix data and markup" approach.
mircea_popescu: im sure i mentioned my script to s'\n\n%\r'g | s'\n% 'g | s'\r%\n'g many times before
mircea_popescu: it just gets rid of "80 col" or otherwise "preformatted" text in favour of line=paragraph sanity.
BingoBoingo: ATTN:
http://bingology.net/ will be offline for at least 24 hours until I can free up some time to force the database to fit into the available RAM
BingoBoingo: No, there isn't. There are knobs that influence the range of memory footprints mysql will sit in, and none of them appear to be able to be turned meaningfully down on a living database.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 17:49 ben_vulpes: not much to report, still assembling personal workstation
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I never tried the linux on it