trinque: asciilifeform: I failed repeatedly to build chrome on musl, said "fuck it", dustbinned.
trinque: don't you want to use our prebuilt bins, citizen?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-14 04:52 ben_vulpes: they've always been my "wrong tool for every job"; i'd rather have a set of deep sockets in pretty much every situation.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, speaking of summaries and so on : anyone familiar with "the gentleman's magazine" ?
mircea_popescu: interesting item, ran for ~200 years up until ww1 as a sorta-kinda republican log. eventually some society of bored folks in utah produced a complete index, like 100 volumes.
mircea_popescu: it contains such gems as "He went abroad with him, and brought home such a return as was to be expected from kindred honour and well reciprocated use."
mircea_popescu: which, if anyone should be equal to the task of explaining for my benefit...
mircea_popescu: let me guess, "#metoo, the social narrative ANYONE* can contribute to..."
phf: i was confused by the correctness/fairness thread, until i realized that the use of the word "fair" has changed to its complete opposite from the traditional western use. in folklore fair is a sometimes begrudging recognition and internal compromise of correctness: something is not to your liking, but it's fair, i.e. correct
phf: fair has been since long hijacked by socialist, so preoccupation with fairness is an indicator
mircea_popescu: phf the folk fairness you think of is purely eastern. western fairness was always female-driven, and socialistically flavoured.
mircea_popescu: east of the hajnal line, "fair" means "it's true i'm a poor peasant who needs this chunk of bread, yet the devil saw it first and well... fair is fair"
mircea_popescu: west of the hajnal line, however, "fair" is exclusively found in "it's not fair that old man's daugther do all the work while old woman's daugthers get all the praise"
mircea_popescu: and yes, the distinction is very specifically driven by the "marriage patterns", ie, western franks allowing women much more choice in mating (resulting predictably in a large contingent of unmated females, a larger still contingent of mated-once, and a much later first mating overal). all this produces a lot of idle time to waste wringing wrists.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:58 asciilifeform: i dun expect these will ever be OCR'd, hand-typesetted-cum-diagrams newtonola is possibly a bridge too far for ocr.
mircea_popescu: i wake up, with a bladder fulla pee and a bladder fulla words. and more than half the time it's the 2nd that actually makes snoozing impossible.
mircea_popescu: but you ~could~ add the actual latex source as an alt tag on the image, resulting in... searchable, and viewable in [correctly working] lynx.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of this, alf : inasmuch as "math" is not fully alphabetic (as it isn't, because it includes procedural items as well as characters) you WILL HAVE TO add some notation to your "text".
mircea_popescu: and the way this wound will heal is exactly thus : properly adnotated math that then is properly rendered WHERE TERMINALS WORK
mircea_popescu: don't try to fix people's terminals from across the cable.
mircea_popescu: nevermind that. really nobody cares what the empire does.
mircea_popescu: so do the sane thing, make bitmap with latex tag, and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: tbh im not even sure what we want for a web scripting language is php, ie, "text preprocessor"
mircea_popescu: what we really want is probably some derivation of latex.
mircea_popescu: i utterly don't need a scriptable wrapper to do string manipulation, what the holy shit is this, onyl someone who grew up on c strings can imagine such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: nfi what they were thinking when they came up with the <tag> bs.
mircea_popescu: and the thing that truly gets my goat, is that all this inane "simplicity -- computers have to do the work for people" reinterpreted as "computers have to do the work to compensate for utterly destructured psychogenic noise -- and you have to write the assurance software for the software they run" was only pushed in the first place so "accessible" because then "more people get involved". forgetting all the while that the "peo
mircea_popescu: ple" symbol in that "more people get involved" does NOT denote ~actual~ people. it denotes the sort of people who need a computer to think for them in order to participate in intellectual affairs. ie, NON!!!!-people!
mircea_popescu: "oh, the computer should make snails fly, so that it makes flight accessible to snails, so that there's more birds around which will make even more computers even better bla bla bla".
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, all that builds is a large contingent of snails who think they can fly, which is PRECISELY technological debt.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do i want to carry through the world a huge pile of tech debt ?
mircea_popescu: there's no fucking benefit, the world was better off when there were four computers about total and the fucktarded secretutes sucked dick in office bathrooms instead of derping about how "you don't understand computers" because their stupidphones cut off fields silently and THEY ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO REALISE this is a problem, and specifically of theirs...
mircea_popescu: and then of course also lack the meta-cognitive capacity to realise that this is simple metonimy, the stupidphone doesn't do that just to one filed that's "too long", but to ALL FIELDS. which is how they end up with notions about "#metoo" and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea who thought accessibility is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: the world, not as a sum, but throughout, each-individual-component-as-well-as-all-groups-of-components, is worse off for computers being more accessible thusly.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people ignored the dumbass before she formed the notion that the problem isn't her being stupid -- but other people being old.
mircea_popescu: "In lieu of flowers, his family has asked that gifts in Zhang’s memory be made to Stanford University".
mircea_popescu: (dood had some bitcoin investment, and was diddling the kidnapped woman, is the idea).
mircea_popescu: so, on one hand, he is entirely correct in saying that useful work has to be paid, and whether its abstract work or digging ditches makes no difference. there's nothing special about writing software "that millions will use" (ie, generality) -- because the writer can get sick, and the person handling sick people will HAVE TO drop what they're doing and instead look at deeply similar splotches on a screen and say ~specific~ wo
mircea_popescu: rds that are only applicable or interesting to his own particular case.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu asciilifeform Got burried in ruckus, Going to try to write it up
mircea_popescu: since the doctor's entitled to some compensation to even out his opportunity cost, the dilemma naggum presents is quite soundly footed : "get sick for a while, see". and plenty of other items go just this way.
mircea_popescu: now, conversely -- it is impossible, leaving aside how it is impracticable, to try and make software "secret". from the color of bits to what have you, the notion that you can somehow wrangle ~a concrete, objectified representation~ of the abstract in question to "carry value" is also broken.
mircea_popescu: which is his mistake, he thinks "code has value" is approachable in the terms of "fish has value". but fish has value per line, and code does NOT have value per line. in fact -- each extra pound of fish increases the value of the fish cache ; but every extra line of code DECREASES the value of the code cache.
mircea_popescu: there's a further, important element that he neglects. specifically -- consider slavery.
mircea_popescu: suppose, as a thought experiment, we are now in charge of the world. we are to say how it is to be run.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 19:15 asciilifeform: at the risk of repeating ancient thread -- 'the best machine is no machine', it weighs nuffin, needs no maintenance. and the best proggy, is no proggy at all, if a problem can be solved without writing proggy, it ought to be. erry line of coad can be rightfully pictured as an act of intellectual littering. y'know, like throwing cig butt or bottle on the ground in the park.
mircea_popescu: there's a female born, somewhere in the indistinct midwest. aged 16, she correctly [yet without having read it] applies the
http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ "what female is supposed to be", ends up enslaved by some guy, whom we'll call avik.
mircea_popescu: now let's look at this system : it's not nicole's place to judge her master avik ; separated from this her master avik is a moron. is it our intention that everything should stand as it fell ?
mircea_popescu: and you can't say "she should read trilema and figure shit out". a slave doesn't have this, a slave will do what random moron tells them to, which i guess would be going to college or some shit.
mircea_popescu: if, in point of fact, code is kept under wraps, you are, in point of fact, forcing the world into a "things lay where they fell" scheme, and slavery becomes untenable (and deeply something i can't support).
mircea_popescu: open code has this fundamental capacity, of doing for you what my fetlife bots do for me.
mircea_popescu: passive, yes, but everyone who is here is here ~because they read code~, not because they didn't.
mircea_popescu: so in short -- naggum's dilemma must be resolved ~without~ closing the code.
mircea_popescu: something like that utterly can't stand UNLESS "the logs are right there, what've you been doing".
mircea_popescu: probably. still -- notice how ~easy~ it is for us to discard pointless items, howsoever "friendly" they might be.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside my observation of anyone else's experience -- the "here's mp-wp codebase" has not appreciably destroyed something as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: it seems deeply boneheaded to believe publication destroys value, a sort of harlan elinson tack.
mircea_popescu: (by which i mean, specifically "i know i'm a hack, and i know i have a finite time until they figure it out, so the more i make while saying the least -- the better")
mircea_popescu: guy always had a very early-steamengine/textilemill-engineering flavour to me
mircea_popescu: and all my reservations re naggum, historically, came from this elinson flavour i here and there detected.
mircea_popescu: but it's chiefly around this sort of misstatements, "oh, open code destroys value".
mircea_popescu: now, none of this is an argument for ~all code forever open~. there's no all comers here, and indeed the overwhelm factor is a problem.
mircea_popescu: but the web (metaphorically, the spider web of existence) has to be and remain traversable from the outside.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, what we're building will collapse. and i can prove it, too -- very much goedelian crunch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform our friend avik does the same, believe it or not.
mircea_popescu: ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here.
mircea_popescu: the problem doesn't need to be stated in terms of "oil, gas" bla bla, "let's imagine adults still exist somewhere". this dork works for a packaging manufacturer, but the problem's evident from the "small business owner" - "web expert" interactions, well documented online.
mircea_popescu: the domain specialist is uniquely unqualified and deeply unable to hire computer expert.
mircea_popescu: which is why hospitals don't let you choose the shaman.
mircea_popescu: to bring this full circle : the perceived difference between particularizing (doctor) and generalizing (computer scientist) abstract work is entirely hallucinated. the ~only~ way to correctly pay for abstract work is as allocations from crown.
mircea_popescu: copyright is a deeply dysfunctional, dumb and braindamaged attempt to "open" the crown allocation process.
mircea_popescu: (above, generalizing work is work that done once serves many ; particularizing is work which has to be done every time, and each time according to a standard).
mircea_popescu: note how the "solution" idiots came up with (and failed to verbalize) was exactly "consultancy", ie, "we'll live off the value of the particularizing tail of our generalizing workl"
mircea_popescu: this dun fucking work in practice, for the reasons obvious from the proper formulation.
mircea_popescu: and so here's how feudalism becomes inescapable : man will have to get sudan or w/e land (plus the attached bipedal or multipedal livestock) in exchange for having written republican smgl or w/e.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and sometimes, the salvation of slaves comes from reading trilema instead of sleep and so on.
mircea_popescu: yes, upwards social mobility only ever works this way.
mircea_popescu: but that's incorrect. ~thoguht~ and especially ~abstract work~ is a surplus phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: because it's what it is, if you're hungry go farm, if you're lonely go spawn. if you're nothing in particular -- which is to say, if you're finally human -- how about you do something useful finally.
mircea_popescu: it's a case of wheel powering engine again. all abstract work is a surplus phenomena because the surprlus predates the work. not because "we're poor, but we hope to pay the bills by thinking".
mircea_popescu: but because "eh, whatever, fridge's too full anyway, let's do somethjing interesting today".\
mircea_popescu: the thinking by which you hope to pay the bills, that's how you get C and mass marketed "films".
mircea_popescu: it's not that you don't expect it ; it's that you don't need it.
mircea_popescu: doctor does not sit in er room going "i hope someone shows up or else i starve".
mircea_popescu: because that's not a state of mind conducive to doctoring in the first place.
mircea_popescu: doctor goes "well... i guess i could sleep... but i dun feel like it... or i could farm... meh farming... let's see if there's something interesting to do".
mircea_popescu: this is not ~formally~ what happens, for purely coincidental reasons. it is ~fundamentally~ what happens, which is why it's important.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here. << And he did it for (((packing))) Peanuts!
mircea_popescu: so to sum all this up : naggum is right in that what he does can't be free. naggum is wrong in that the tangible expression of abstracts could have value (what next, doctor supports self by selling ultrasound drawings ?!) ; and moreover closed code in the copyright/microsoft sense makes the slaves&harem&wot world impossible.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's little sadder in creation than overstretched underachievers, "oh, i got perfect sat scores" "why ?"
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 18:01 asciilifeform: i dun work for prizes, medals, mircea_popescu knows this.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-07 23:21 asciilifeform: 'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sadly we'll never know what he'd have said, avik got to him first.
mircea_popescu: the only remaining open problem is, of course, valuation.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:12 asciilifeform: a 500k-loc ( ignoring even for a moment the far greater heft of 'modern' wonders ) c/cpp proggy is, for all intents and purposes, closed-source, even if every line is published, because it is quite impossible for anyone -- even author -- to get a proper grip on its behaviour space
mircea_popescu: given a set of ("the place formerly known as sudan", "a monopoly on aviation", "the empire state building") and ("has written proper sgml", "heroically reversed bolix stack","found way to write without getting out of bed"), which is the correct matching ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is ~exactly~ what i'm leveraging : ALL abstractions are "closed-source" by their very nature -- witness how cats don't read them. then let's use this natural barrier to select the future lordship.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the decision'd better make sense, which is to say, meaningful rather than arbitrary.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."
mircea_popescu: consider tomorrow emperor of china writes in, wants to give taiwan to republic as peace gift.
mircea_popescu: taiwan will have to have a governor, and i will do what ? name the most capable ? the most bored ? suppose we do the medieval thing and separate the work from the benefice. then who gets the latter ? and so on.
mircea_popescu: it is certainly a good thing emperor of china is not gifting taiwans right now. but the matter remains -- the reward for good work is generally more work in the same vein.
mircea_popescu: this is nice and dandy -- until someone actually needs some work of their own.
mircea_popescu: consider this taken to extremes : suppose the lordship's a few hundred, ie the most it can ever possibly take, and each are castles with hundreds of knights within and so on.
mircea_popescu: in short : the current system of allocating labour is offensively stupid ; and the rudiments of what we have here promise to work. but so far... spreading dun work!
mircea_popescu: the above "question of valuation" as well as the "it'd better make sense" readily translate into "give me resistive loss formula".
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's a whole other can of intricate strange. i wasn't gonna address it till as you say, some l1 folks move on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, that's not at ALL what was meant by "resistive loss". what was meant was, some labour wastage will occur through guy A getting 1.epsilon the work he needs while guy B getting 1-epsilon and perhaps dying for it.
mircea_popescu: believe this or not, i reach such levels of chinese emperorhood.
mircea_popescu: however you call it. but it seems to me, which was the original driver, it seems to me naggum's dilemma illustrates a missing chunk rather than anything else.
mircea_popescu: ie, "yes, that's untenable, but no this is stupid (and ultimately also untenable), so..."
mircea_popescu: i don't think you were following my "suppose". let's do over.
mircea_popescu: suppose suppose the lordship owns the world, in all particulars, entirely. the last rebel was long ago executed. i can write to any and all doctors, "hey, please X". so can you. so can etcetera.
mircea_popescu: at this juncture, if the king falls ill every doctor in the realm will crowd the palace, and if the provincial governor of taiwan happens to need apendectomy he might even die.
mircea_popescu: and don't tell me "money". money is eminently broken in handling all this, proof positive being that if you get a hospital bill you can't say if it's correct or not
mircea_popescu: (if you get that x ray machine delivered, you can tell what % of socket power it wastes)
mircea_popescu: so this is what i thought we were discussing -- "some inefficiency necessarily part of world". yes, agreed -- but how much ?
mircea_popescu: and if you answer this, you necessarily answer "how to value work" as well as "what meaning has king's arbitrarity" and so on.
mircea_popescu: but the 1900s gold dubloons do NOT work for this. because lines of code, or "eyeballs upon cell cultures" are NOT like barels of fish.
mircea_popescu: it's perfectly find to "let market find price of steel hull ship".
mircea_popescu: it is very fucking dubious to imagine market will "find price" to tell naggum how much of his code-juju he has to give up to doctor.
mircea_popescu: he wants ~to be able to get other professionals to help him when he needs it~, he doesn't want "more dough" specifically and as such.
mircea_popescu: ie, he wants sufficient claim to fame as to make the "i'd like to live rather than die" proposition defensible. he doesn't even want money as such at all
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mircea_popescu: and i suspect this fundamental intuition is what drives a lot of high socialism (like high protestantism, the nonsense among intelligent folks, as opposed to low) -- the intuition that the 1800 notion of money, perfectly adequate as it is for concretes, utterly fails on abstracts and what one needs is a lot more abstracts than concretes.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo is that a new math ? << It is 0.002 x 12 with a 10% discount applied
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mircea_popescu: it seems to me what has happened here was, a certain notion of money got shoehorned into evolving practice with nary a thought given to what works how.
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a111: Logged on 2014-03-10 15:06 mircea_popescu: sie gonnen mir nicht Schlesien und die Grafschaft Glatz...
mircea_popescu: think about it -- they "pay" doctors, in fredericus rex dubloons, while they ALSO insist they... do what ? document their work, yes ? ie, construct the basis of wot-based payment.
mircea_popescu: it's stupidly kept "closed", but what do you want to know when talking to a doctor ? "the list of previous cases plox" right ? ie "wot ?"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "money" in the dubloon sense is going away (certainly away from the hands of the plebs) to be replaced by... abstract version, plastic, db-money. so how does new man pay for doctor ? oh, he gives to hospital ~the voucher his place of employment gave him~.
mircea_popescu: ie, empire is doing exactly what we're discussing here, just, ineptly.
mircea_popescu: "why does joe have voucher hospital x accepts where moe does not ?" "cuz visa black platinum blalblabla" "wut ?" "his employer is in the wot and vouches for him!"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 20:09 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Also up for renewal are Mocky and nicoleci's shared hosting instances which you paid through December
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 15:10 mircea_popescu: hey Mocky_ how's the hunt going ?
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me, pending how well this goes, that we could have a bourbaki
Mocky: why, cuz so many extra hands?
mircea_popescu: have a team of specialist appliers to jobs, dump all the task in some flatfile for you folks to pass around encrypted, and that's pretty much it.
mircea_popescu: whoever feels like doing some saeculum work that day draws a ticket.
Mocky: relatedly, i haven't even applied to remote jobs yet. hand cranking through local options still
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Mocky i suspect "local job" is by now thin wrapper over "social security handout"
☟︎ Mocky: in the past I've given serious consideration to arbitraging out my own secular tasks to indians or whathaveyou
mircea_popescu: i know this exists, whole outfits predicated on this scheme.
trinque: aha, Mocky and Oracle both
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing wrong with still providing the bindings. what, so hard to pick up phone ?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect you're not hired out in stretches of fifteen minutes, like starvation whores.
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mircea_popescu: programmers are whores, but usually under a roof, not on the street.
mircea_popescu: you're so fucking obstructive, it's almost like your second nature in some fields.
mircea_popescu: look, "short latency", what's that mean ? either it means you're cutting carrots one at a time, or else it means you don't, therefore perfectly possible to have a specialist phone robot.
mircea_popescu: nah. you're the only one that picks those sets of tickets.
Mocky: my concern is that often it takes me a year to build an accurate enough mental model to be able to solve problem which prompted the lamp rubbing in a reasonable time
mircea_popescu: no. because already, you sit on ass not hunting for jobs while mocky isn't doing any work.
mircea_popescu: Mocky people get fired all the time, who gives a shit.
Mocky: but i'm totally down to give it a try (after employed). it's gonna be hoot!
mircea_popescu: your issue is you keep creating these unrequitted love relationships withj employers.
mircea_popescu: this scheme'd massively help your cognitive impairement.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly 0 reason to ever care about some dollar-holding schmuck.
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of sticking with the farm after dust bowl event.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:02 mircea_popescu: Mocky i suspect "local job" is by now thin wrapper over "social security handout"
Mocky: brb, recruiter call! pfft
mircea_popescu: "i have an employer" is the substance of the insanity here discussed. no, you don't HAVE jack. it has.
mircea_popescu: this is a facet of what i'm saying : rather than have you "look for a girlfriend as best i can when i perceive i need one", how about you have a ~girl~ look for girlfriends ALL THE TIME, and you can pick one or a few when inclined.
mircea_popescu: ie, your problems, my dear farmer, come from the fact that you only try to kill cockroaches when "they get to be too many"
mircea_popescu: obviously a dishelved incel finally pushed to dating by desperation is going to produce less meat than a purpose-dedicated female, yes ?
Mocky: no mr. recruiter I don't have experience with Docker, as fun as that sounds
mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people".
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-08-28 22:27 mircea_popescu: and i do mean ~every single last one~. i talk to every single chick on fetlife, meaning EVERY SINGLE ONE. that's the job of existence. nothing else passes muster.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:01 Mocky: relatedly, i haven't even applied to remote jobs yet. hand cranking through local options still
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 01:51 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, mod6 ben_vulpes the above q is serious, btw. have someone represent you on digitalpoint / whatever hosting forums ? or you deem it premature ?
mircea_popescu: no, "handy" in the sense of "mp already did the work of enumerating tghe venues so i can name one that's handy on those shoulders"
Mocky: when I look deeply enough into my pockets I see hunger about 6 weeks away, and my phone getting shut off and so I look for the closest solution at hand
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ever thought about taking in a 50yo male slave, mediteranean complexion ?
Mocky: not looking for help to solve my own problems. I'll solve and then contribute solutions to other problems
diana_coman: Mocky, don't worry, nobody will ever help you against own wishes
mircea_popescu: Mocky you know, there's way worse fates than enslavement.
Mocky: advice wise, i'm happy to accept help. action wise, I'll take the action
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no, "handy" in the sense of "mp already did the work of enumerating tghe venues so i can name one that's handy on those shoulders" << Out of tophost.com, hostingdiscussion.com, topsearch.com, warriorforums, and forums.hostsearch.com, it seems only Digitalpoint might be worth a revisit
BingoBoingo: Well, a plumb, Most of these "hosting" forums maybe see 20 posts a year from the same 4 wankers spamming in a circle
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's a visit do ? << A visit allow a read of "Is anyone here", Was anyone here 2,4,5,10 years ago
Mocky: anyway, I don't think specialist job applier is all that hard to do. tech companies are ripe for being gamed
Mocky: i'm past most of my frustration with it now, noticing their weaknesses. if you can code A* on a white board in 10 minutes with no errors while talking intelligently about their beloved frameworks, then not hiring you would be a struggle
Mocky: tru, but once they want you, some will allow remote. They've got to fill those recs by the end of the quarter!
Mocky: plus many adverise remote to begin with
Mocky: for bonus points, train a black chix to be specialist job applier
Mocky: i've thought about brushing up on my ebonics to troll some interviews. show up in brand new nike airs and NBA jersey, use gangster analogies for everything while talking computer science like everybody knows that shit
mircea_popescu: i make it a rule to never be the most frustrated/annoyed/etc one in the room.
mircea_popescu: if i'm pissed off, it just means someone else will have to be pissed off x2
mircea_popescu: so... "if you don't want to rue the day you were born, better make sure i'm not out looking for a job ever. i hate that shit."
mircea_popescu: they had a secret session of #australia and everything ? lmao.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lol seekrit trials << Apparently the standard for trials in Australia is seekrit until appeal in order to "avoid biasing retrial juries"
BingoBoingo: But Austria apparently hasn't tried anyone worth the mention until now
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> world of 6yos. << On the Cardinal's lap
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Puede Ser, I haven't given much though to Australia's Kangaroo Courts as a legal system to get involved in
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So is Canada, NZ, UK, etc. Everyone of the five eyes is a test bed for the others
trinque: whatever, fbi just wanted friends.
BingoBoingo: Ah, like that story where the frog ate the scorpion because that's just what they do. It's their nature to eat
mircea_popescu: i imagine pantsuit.fbi is gonna start farming these, much like pantsuit.academia is farming "scholars" and pantsuit.tech is farming blackchickscode.
mircea_popescu: (conversely : there was a slavegirl in toledo, ohio none of you lazy bums got to in time.)
BingoBoingo: Well, seems pretty clear they are just farming them now