BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You do remember how Animal Farm ends?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it...
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pete_dushenski: "Volkswagen of America, in a bid to regain the trust of current diesel owners, will announce a prepaid card campaign on November 9, TTAC has learned. The program, detailed to dealers Thursday in preparation of its public announcement, is aimed at current owners of affected TDI models regardless of whether they bought their car new or used. Two prepaid cards will be offered to those TDI owners. The first one will be f
pete_dushenski: 500 and has no restrictions on where it can be used. The second, which may be valued between $500 and $750, will be limited to use at Volkswagen dealerships." << in which vw doesn't even try to 'fix' the problem that isn't and instead distributes cash to owners whose vehicles WILL BE WORTH MORE than the owners of post-scandal neutertronics
pete_dushenski: so no, vw won't be 'fixing' any old vehicles. you can take your carbon, nox, etc and huff it.
mircea_popescu: while trying to take advantage of the consumer's disinclination to use it
mircea_popescu: "what, drive a wedge between the people and the governmentoregulating fruiting body ? WE OWN THE PEOPLE1!11!"
pete_dushenski: these prepaid cards will be used for organic groceries at whole foods
pete_dushenski: if my conception of the average american tdi owner is accurate
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assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 19:26:00; mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the one
mircea_popescu: well you know, small kids. their relationship is to mom.
pete_dushenski: to be sure, but then 'threaten their parents with holding their breath' is really 'threaten their mothers'
mircea_popescu: well, just like in a movie : actor threatens the other actor AND the audience, but can't really hear the audience.
pete_dushenski: and even still, i think panta's mom would get a kick out of seeing him pull it off
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, how did it take movie theatres however many decades to figure out reserved seating ?
pete_dushenski: there's ONE theatre in town with this : reserved seating, wine+beer, hot food, the works
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 19:40:43; mircea_popescu: which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need.
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 19:45:17; ascii_field: there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance.
pete_dushenski: "Surgeons break the leg bone in two and implant a state-of-the-art telescopic rod into the middle of the broken bones which then pulls the bone apart very slowly, about one millimeter a day. New bone grows around it and tissues like the muscle, the nerves, the arteries, and the skin, regenerate as well. At about $85,000, the procedure is expensive and the process lengthy. It takes at least three months to complete it
pete_dushenski: it requires demanding and excruciating physical therapy."
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trinque: pete_dushenski: I see two things there: a deep, pervasive obedience in human beings and a total lack of sane input
trinque: that he should be tall or short or have a flagpole in his ass was not and was never his idea
trinque: for me, an open question, but surely approaches 0
pete_dushenski: arguably, will/cock is what separates actors from audience
trinque: mhm, perhaps it is a not a question of whether moved, but by what
trinque: a man with will; that is the one harder to define
trinque: one can say himself, but is he committing tautology?
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 21:07:48; mircea_popescu: stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement.
trinque goes to pick things up and put them down again, and to ponder this
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mod6: asciilifeform & all, I've added one more change to V for the forthcoming version of 99998: People have been letting me know that if their system us using a version of perl less than 5.12 that it's been causing problems. So i've added a statement that requires a minimum of 5.12.
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mod6: in the process of testing that change as well as the change for the temporary gpg directory.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home.
pete_dushenski: 'need to find a fitness instructor worth banging while you're at work'
shinohai: Does this one not require Graph::Easy ?
mod6: This version will also have the change where Graph::Easy is not required unless you invoke v with the `g' or `graph' command
ben_vulpes: mod6: why does it fail with versions under 5.12?
mod6: because the 'each' keyword isn't supported.
ben_vulpes has just rediscovered that gpg doesn't handle filename wildcards gracefully or at all
mircea_popescu: "In the world where the media postulates social media as an absolute requirement of the modern era-- the era where everything is fetishized-- no one is permitted to make the distinction between a value and the picture of a value, they are made equivalent, so daring to criticize Randi's baby pictures is made to sound like misogyny or misobaby. It's not. I love food but if you ask me to look at a picture of a food I wil
☟︎ mircea_popescu: l poison your toothpaste. Be careful: the point is not that a woman shouldn't post her baby pictures, the point is that the system cannot profit from her baby except as a photo, so that in order to get them to do it more-- to be online more-- the system teaches them to overvalue the photo; and this must necessarily be at the expense of the object itself. #porn."
mod6: new code changes seem to be working good with manual testing; tested a bunch of different scenarios including if one does not have Graph::Easy installed, or if one has a version of perl less than 5.12. Working good there. all automated tests are passing.
mod6: still on track to sign and release v99998 this weekend.
mod6: thanks asciilifeform. forgot to mention that the new tmp gnupg dir is working well also.
mod6: The release email will outline the changes.
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assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 19:31:11; mircea_popescu: that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it... << In the end it reverses as the pigs become nearly indistinguishable from the humans, except fatter. ESR in that pic seemed to have bagged a descendant of "napoleon"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home. << To bring grief to the Mayogendered with a demonstration of gender. Also squats build booty.
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mircea_popescu: "I'm pretty sure that's Charlize Theron, not Scarlett Johansson." And I'm pretty sure they're the same person, and just because now she's Rachel Maddow doesn't mean she's serious.
BingoBoingo: Both. I think his big role this year was as a giant robot who gets killed by a purple dildo.
BingoBoingo: Eh, it was one of those masked hero movies so if he didn't die and asked for too much money they could have replaced him.
BingoBoingo: But he was the bad guy just as he is when he does drag as rachel.
trinque: pretty great; my tmux session now supports utf8 hieroglyphs
trinque: oh working out, good as well
trinque: plenty of eye candy over there; I did various machine press, curls, that weighted rowing machine
trinque: focusing on the things I've neglected sitting at a keyboard too long
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trinque: "I’m armed and maintaining Condition Yellow." << bwahahahaha
trinque: hopefully his mother is on call for the code brown with fresh undies.
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mircea_popescu: i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
☟︎ punkman: oic now " this is the enactment and remambrance ceremony of the female kurdish student Leyla Qasım who was captured, tortured, tried and executed within 20 days in 1974."
mircea_popescu: they gotta have something better than one she-kurd 40 years ago
mircea_popescu: "Keeping in mind that actual stalking has never been dealt with in any significant way ever, the desire of a few female writers to curb online anonymity wouldn't be enough to get an @ mention, except that this happens to coincide with what the media wants, and now we have the two vectors summing to form a public health crisis. "Cyberbullying is a huge problem!" Yes, but not because it is hurtful, HA! no one cares about
mircea_popescu: your feelings-- but because criticism makes women want to be more private-- and the privacy of the women is bad. The women have to be online, they do most of the clicking and receive most of the clicks. Anonymous cyberbullying is a barrier to increasing consumption, it's gotta go."
mircea_popescu: or how giving women money fucks up media for everyone. now they gotta cater to what women want, too, and since what women want is probably somethign stupid and without explosions in it, you get two anodyne fagboys to replace harrison ford, at 1/4 the pay each.
punkman: I feel like I've read that one two dozen times
punkman: !s cyberbullying is a barrier
BingoBoingo: "STEM is soooooo last decade. FAG is the new science.Fatminism, Arts and Gender Studies will train a new generation of educated young womyn and allies to compete with the likes of Asia."
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shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 v99998 tests passed all boxes, tested the < 5.12 perl on all then installed proper.
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punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
☟︎ shinohai: So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ?
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo. you knew dumbass was angling for "celebrity" since day one
mircea_popescu: the fat fag sucked. these harpies ? really, 0 interest, what else is on ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 06:51:36; mircea_popescu: i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 16:11:21; asciilifeform: i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ?
punkman: I guess the easy way to do it might be a harness around your armpits
assbot: Actor accidentally hangs himself on stage while re-enacting death of Judas Iscariot in Easter play | Daily Mail Online ... (
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punkman: "But the safety vest the actor was wearing under is robe is believed to have risen up across his neck, strangling him. "
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 14:51:09; punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
assbot: Logged on 16-05-2014 17:52:50; benkay: fuckit.py
punkman: asciilifeform: was answer to what is crash override, but also just remembers it was a nickname of someone in Hackers movie
punkman: "Crash Override Network is a pro bono support group for victims of large scale online abuse, including revenge porn and doxing."
punkman: and new Star Wars lead is a girl, and she'll probably get bullied at some point
punkman: Disney knows how much stupid shit all the fangirls will buy
punkman: "It's just you and your least favorite child. Come to Arbys. Feed him emulsified beef reformed w meat glue. Watch him slowly die. Arbys."
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assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:49:20; pete_dushenski:
http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> with a seance ? << they just ask the other people.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ? << because people keep talking about it as if it were important. and so what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ytou ever found that tlp where he says "x derp is just there because the seat existed" ?
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 00:26:51; mircea_popescu: "If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover
mircea_popescu: funny how this happens, on perhaps 1% of articles, i actually want to add more stuff in the morning.
mircea_popescu: "There should be no controversy: a guy should never tell a girl he's going to rape her, online or not, kidding or not." umm,... and whence doth that should come from ? what nonsense is this, anyway ?
mircea_popescu: it's not that there should be no controversy THIS way. There should be, and really there is not, any controversy the other way. ~Some guys~ SHOULD tell a girl they'll rape her. If they don't, how are you to stand out ? And "girls" in the general must be convinced in their bones that either they put out with their choice or get collectively raped by everyone. This part seems to work okay, anyway.
mircea_popescu: " there should be no instinct at all to defend such a jerk, and yet----- and yet that is precisely the instinct many people get." << check it out, usg wants monopoly on orcdom now. IT can defend the outcasts so they can terrorize the cattle, i'm not "allowed to" because hey, there can be only one and it can't be me, amirite ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 19:09:55; *: asciilifeform throbs memory biceps
ben_vulpes: (but you know they're weird and perverted etc)
mircea_popescu: and by "Some girls" we mean "the vast majority of human females of reproductive age", but hey, they don't read random derpy us website nobody reads so they don't count\
mod6: so apparently the 'each' keyword is pretty much to be avoided like the plague.
mod6: i've re-written the traversals of the map for ante & desc and my new changes passed the automated tests.
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mod6: it's only 2 more lines of code really. so it's not a bad solution, and this affords me not to have to require perl 5.12 or greater.
mod6: i've got one more spot in the code to change out 'each'
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, perl v5.005 or whatever has been in use since 98, lot of systems have from that version forward. would be good to support older versions.
mod6: and get away from 'each'.
mod6: anyway, will update later when I get a chance. thx!
mod6: ok, last place of 'each' removed -- only one more line of code required there.
mod6: running automated tests...
mod6: ok everything passed. I'm glad I wrote all of those. makes regression testing on core functionality like this so much easier.
mod6: shinohai: thanks for doing all that testing on V. looks like I might need another round yet before tomorrow.
mod6: I'll try to chat you up later tonight.
mod6: ben_vulpes: indeed.
ben_vulpes: "my only job around here is to scowl loudly at bad commits and demand more tests" - $bzprtnr
ben_vulpes: i think you may have even cited that before
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: they have their place. i find it convenient to have tests when rewriting large swaths of a thing either i've written: with the behavior codified, i don't have to manually poke at the thing to ensure that it still behaves the way it did before i tore it apart and put it back together.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ? << Remember that series of films where she went from a spy to a public figure holding fucking glowsticks on a movie poster?
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what, by the way do you mean by "web work"?
ben_vulpes: anything touching the request/response cycle? apis etc?
ben_vulpes: our conversation the other night. "wot suggests i..."
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ben_vulpes: so my father managed a gentleman who'd moved from the soviet block many years ago. the man walks into my fathers office one day, asks for some privacy to talk about american things. "in odessa, we put children out to nap. cold air, is good for little lungs! anyways," hands my father a letter, "what is this 'child protective services?"
ben_vulpes: "oh, they'll take your children away if you don't conform to us norms."
ben_vulpes: "child was completely wrapped! not a big deal!"
ben_vulpes: "you don't understand. they. will. take. your. children."
ben_vulpes: "this is worse than russia! even kgb would not take children...my wife will never go along..."
ben_vulpes: wrapped up, bundled, swaddled, generally speaking insulated from the cold.
ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this was a decade or three ago.
ben_vulpes: the west may have been brought under dominion of the feds with marriage laws, but the whole country is dominated by CPS.
ben_vulpes: more of a tool of wives and mothers than the state and snitches though, isn't it?
ben_vulpes: if your wages are subject to garnishment you *are* unter.
ben_vulpes: yes, shielding assets is hard and not for everyone.
ben_vulpes: i am actually pondering approaches to collectivize the thing ahead of the horde.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 15:54:26; mircea_popescu: tru to life too. "he tried to make the trains wear out the rail!"
ben_vulpes: sounds a lot like "don't work with people outside of your wot" to me.
BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
☟︎ BingoBoingo: So what you are saying is ben_vulpes is hitting the scotch tonight
BingoBoingo: As answering these misfortunes might soon lower his future booze to "Country Club" vodka and Thunderbird
BingoBoingo: I dunno that bong can quite relieve existential dread in the same way drink does
BingoBoingo: Well, to renounce he'd have to go to the embassy or consulate where he'd be subject to arrest
BingoBoingo: can't renounce by mail, and the other ways still require US Dept State to recognize the invalidating act and bill Mr. S
BingoBoingo: So yes, US requires "certifying" you did a citizenship disqualifying act
BingoBoingo: Of course, but getting the symbol means delivering self to the hit squad
BingoBoingo: Like Assange's refusal to enter shipping container as "diplomatic package"
mircea_popescu: incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ?
BingoBoingo: Oh apparently torrent infrastructure Hearnia'd brb, writing up
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:16:04; asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:34:16; asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
mircea_popescu: they're like.... annoying 50s housefrau. "do whatever you will but don't go naked!111"
mircea_popescu: yeah right. aren't you due at some perm salon or something ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:04:24; ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
mircea_popescu: in general, if you aim to raise children it's a bad idea to pick the nation of idiots.
ben_vulpes: oh, now we like to compete in crowded markets?
mircea_popescu: children don't compete. that's the thing with childhood,
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:08:46; ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed"
mircea_popescu: no, that's not it. "you want kids, you live with the niggers. that's where the kids factory is. i commute to mine, you commute to yours."
mircea_popescu: that way the manner she's accustomed will be correctly calibrated.
mircea_popescu: it's unhealthy to raise kids in YOUR means anyway. especially daughters, but in general.
mircea_popescu: it's the manner in the civilised world (aka "eastern europe" in some sources). i suppose i should fish for this.
mircea_popescu: kyra kyralina does hold some valuable etnofolkloric information.
mircea_popescu: "Let me tell you a little of "traditional marriage". The traditional marriage of the Greekxiii works like so : the married woman, and her children, keep house in the castle. The married man, with his apprentices, keeps a workshop somewhere in the workshop quarters, outside the walls. He has an older woman there who cooks, because the apprentices are entitled to be fed by the master. The man visits the woman occasionall
mircea_popescu: y, to beat her, to fuck her, to talk to her. Depending on how close they are, and marriages go through phases anyway. Some husbands may sleep with the woman, some may sleep at the workshop, some may alternate. And marriages go through phases anyway. The woman may not visit her husband. The kids do not generally get to, except boys of sufficient age, if the father even likes them at all. Which isn't that much of a given
mircea_popescu: this is how the world works, africans and their huts notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: as tlp wel lpoints out, it's not that "work" invades the home. is that you need the blinker for existential support.
mircea_popescu: or as george points out, "you take tv out of this relationship, it is just murder"