ckanggirl: mircea_popescu: i have to run out for a bit, thanks for the chat and ill see whats involved in getting my passport renewed if you are serious :O
phf: by diffing two folders together, there's no magic there
phf: is that a rhetorical question?
mod6: i've put in a little fix for my 'check_ante' subroutine, but by what you're saying, this isn't correct then either (for press-path):
mod6: this is a megapuzzler.
phf: mod6: the graph is correct. you have a patch chain A B C D E, you're trying to apply A B E. E is going to fail because you didn't apply C D
mod6: if I press either path, i blow up on the manifest.
spyked: mircea_popescu, crap, apologies for the mess on trilema, I have no idea why it gets cut off. I'll try to repost the comment tomorrow
phf: mod6: the graph on btcbase vtools is the only way it can possibly press. either the left branch or the right branch. changing the order, or introducing the patches from left into right, or right into left is going to break manifest.
phf: mod6: are you trying to press the left hand or the right hand?
mod6: vtools_genesis.vpatch -> vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch -> vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch
phf: then instead of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc you should be applying vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc
mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
☟︎ mod6: ok, so in that case: vtools_genesis.vpatch -> vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch -> vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc
mod6: lemme do that quick.
ckang: I saw trisha came though earlier, did you send me something by mistake or gift? mircea_popescu
☟︎ mircea_popescu: o hey there. how's the whole mastodon / whatnot thing coming along ?
ckang: hmm you may be thinking of something else, not familar with mastodon
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 15:51 ckang: I dont, never heard of it, looking now
ckang: I may have another girl if you are still accepting submissions
ckang: ohh the api, yea I couldnt quite figure out what it does outright
mircea_popescu: anyway, to answer your question : i wanted to ask you to make a "federated social media" server to pump out the #trilema log anyway. if you're making it you can consider the 2 bitcents an advance.
ckang: ah yea the pump.io, didnt know it by the other name
mircea_popescu: douchebag i thought this guy's more low level networking than you are!
ckang: shes on a phone give me a minute to get her connected
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
ckang: mircea_popescu is the man you need to talk to
ckang: you can go ahead and register ill pm you the instructions
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:26 mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:35 ckang: I saw trisha came though earlier, did you send me something by mistake or gift? mircea_popescu
sarah443: OK im registered, do I need to do something to get the #?
ckang: mircea_popescu: ah thought that was the case, has it been voided or do I need to do anything on my end?
mod6: phf: ahh, ok now im looking at your graph, my graph, and my press path. your right path does ~NOT~ contain 'vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch'. My press path does.
mod6: I believe what might be happening here is that my traversal follows all edges, where as yours does something different perhaps
mircea_popescu: phf any chance logotron might replace unicode barf with the "unicode name" ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 i thought you didn't want to fuck with this anymore, in which case could just wait for him to finish and publish his grapher. or is it fun ?
mod6: lol, well i don't wanna have to fuck with it. and it's not exactly fun. but i really can't stop either.
mod6: i think i have dane bramage.
mircea_popescu: eh, relax, for all practical purposes we have this in hand, hanbot managed to press her press. it's not an emergency.
mod6: alright, i have a drive to get to the bottom of things. will back off.
mircea_popescu: it's nice and good, if it's pleasurable, or needful. but if it's neither don't drive yourself batty out of sheer masochism.
mod6: no worries. thanks Mr. P.
phf: mircea_popescu: i believe the only way to identify unicode barf is by maintaining or downloading explicit lists. we have legitimate unicode barf, so blanket replacement isn't going to work
phf: "woman judge: medium-dark skin tone"
phf: merperson: dark skin tone, man fairy: light skin tone
mircea_popescu: phf could we maintain explicit lists of permitted unicrap, such as arabic and chinese ? and rape the rest ?
mircea_popescu: half my googling today has been "wtf did she just say to me ?"
phf: i think i'm going to add a replacement engine instead, where various words get replaced with emoji
phf: "right-facing fist: medium-dark skin tone"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck told these idiots fists have faces anyway.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is the "queer" modifier anyway. you can say "nigger washingmachine judge" but you can't say "faggot judge" ? what's this, fellow traveller disenfranchisement ?
phf: jeez i don't even know how to work with this soup in sbcl, that woman judge entry translates to, i shit you not, the following sequence of sbcl character names: ("WOMAN" "U1F3FE" "ZERO_WIDTH_JOINER" "SCALES" "VARIATION_SELECTOR-16")
mircea_popescu: uifefe, plain enough. what is the problem you encounter ?
phf: swahili is out, it's wakandan these days
phf: i like the subgroup animal reptile, "turtle, snake, dragon, t-rex"
phf: there's probably enough stuff there to make a very dull roguelike though.
mircea_popescu: and spend the rest of your life dealing with obscure samsung driver errors.
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i thought dragons were palmipedes. hence drake. wtf "reptile".
phf: no see you don't understand taxonomy, it is also green
mircea_popescu: phf here's a perhaps useful summa of all this : add the name as a tooltip ? so if i hover it shows it, and if it's useless well, so be it.
mircea_popescu: trilema does this for footnotes by setting the "title" attribute on a tag, but i imagine same can be done with a div ?
phf: hmm, interesting, i could put a title where everything above a ascii is decomposed into names
phf: not sure how annoying that's going to make hovering though
mircea_popescu: no idea ; also not clear if it's actually worth phf time.
phf: i'm mostly afraid of having to download any more unicode information into my brain
mircea_popescu: in any case it was nice having someone to complain to. shit gets infuriating.
phf: the infamous spitoon
sarah443: Sorry I did it on paper and ckang had me redo it and my pen didnt want to write on skin too easily
mircea_popescu: so what do you do other than writing on your chest, sarah443 ?
sarah443: Take care of my child currently.
sarah443: Im at a point I need to decided, school or _____
sarah443: Boring would be a better term lol
sarah443: But I love him and he would be in daycare otherwise
sarah443: It does, but my problem is, I don't want to commit to something since I can't think of anything that I can see myself doing forever.
sarah443: Ive just never done something I have been super passionate about.
sarah443: When you have to keep a baby fed and the lights on, it limits things a bit.
ckang: I kind of wanted to do investigative stuff online, like the catch a predator style shows.
ckang: Deep dives into odd fields
mircea_popescu: that whole jerry springer stuff is not very enjoyable from what i hear.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:52 sarah443: 👍
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 02:00 phf: 👩🏾⚖️
a111: Logged on 2015-02-22 06:28 asciilifeform: комсомольская правда!
a111: Logged on 2015-02-22 06:29 asciilifeform: ☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
ckang: mircea_popescu: I was thinking more deep web
ckang: Not really love drama
mircea_popescu: ckang hey, if you ever find anything interesting i'm all ears.
phf: yeah i like it, 9 lines of code
ckang: As far as hidden sites go?
mircea_popescu: ckang the republic's always looking for folk that aren't out and out imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: iirc douchebag ended up here as a result of danielpbarron saying something in some what was it, free radio movement chat ?
☟︎ deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
sarah443: ckang is always finding some nasty snuff sites and linking them
sarah443: I would like to do more like offensive sort of research
ckang: yea the child predator stuff is kind of odd IMO
ckang: since it seems like they sorta bait people
ckang: ive only seen a few eps though, not sure how they actually do it
sarah443: They actually use bots to troll people into talking with them and chat analysis
mircea_popescu: ckang structure determines content and all that. once you try to go in the "i can't believe" bla bla format, you'll be producing the repsective content.
sarah443: mircea_popescu: I guess a more proactive approach, most stuff is counter active, post mortems
sarah443: Well say a site is hacked, the group leaves their tag somewhere.
sarah443: I want to be in these groups, not as law enforcement.
sarah443: but more so boots on the ground for the industry
sarah443: Whichever it may be, counterfieting stuff has always seemed interesting
sarah443: China is incredible at some of the stuff they do with that
ckang: lol, I got a chinese knife
ckang: it was 1/10th the price of the original
ckang: same materials, box, etc
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally : the pineapple hacking device is this chinese blade i bought on a lark. turns out it's the best steel i own / have seen in a long while.
ckang: having owned the fake & original you could barely tell the difference
ckang: the good mfgs will use D2 steel and such
ckang: but yea agreed most stuff is 100% garbage
sarah443: There are whole portions of the internet that are pretty much China only. ecommerce wise.
mircea_popescu: sarah443 ok, and it's a living, tenuous and marginal as it may be, buy shit in china resell it in the states. but how's this relate to website defacing ?
ckang: the lengths they go through to counterfeit is pretty wild
sarah443: mircea_popescu: It depends on the attack
sarah443: Remember back during the anon/lulzsec days?
sarah443: That was all about being vocal, "we did it, so what?"
mircea_popescu: this is a very... perception-driven approach to the events.
sarah443: The social justice hackers, that was a bad example
sarah443: But I don't want to just look over past things and try to figure things out, I want to be there before anything happens
sarah443: Just for a journalistic point, I can't work for law enforcement
mircea_popescu: well, technically arcana denotes finnicky, complicated and not directly obvious points.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't understand computers, how would you "be there" "before anything happens" ?
sarah443: Well theres movements taking place that eventually will become bigger deals
mircea_popescu: but do you then have a journalistic platform, like, working relationships with many/most publishers ?
mircea_popescu: i'm an extremist after all. gotta keep up the standards.
sarah443: Working with publishers, but I was thinking about maybe doing web editorials. I like the quick turn around time on that media and distribution
sarah443: like Motherboard puts out some interesting reads sometimes
mircea_popescu: it doesn't help your cause that online media is just about dead.
sarah443: The entire darknet market thing was something I really wanted to delv into
sarah443: Super interesting but its being forced further underground
lobbes: not much there, I reckon. usg honeypots
sarah443: Some of the research they did on them was pretty interesting, like quality of drugs for example
mircea_popescu: nobody's forcing anything anywhere ; the "darknet" bla bla is "being forced underground" in the exact sense the previous emo generation was "being forced into the closet".
sarah443: Well, its more so the government cracking down and people get spooked I suppose
sarah443: I folllow deepdotweb on twitter and they have some good articles sometimes
mircea_popescu: spooked my foot, when we looked through the smoldering pile left after that idiot ross, it came to light ~nobody was using rsa.
sarah443: Yeah amazing how others repeat the mistakes the previous iteration.
sarah443: Its almost like planning the perfect murder lol
sarah443: You see those shows and think, "oh, I wouldnt screw that up"
mircea_popescu: eh. the quality of police work has so terribly degraded in the past half century, if anyone does ANY PLANNING AT ALL it's a murder that'll never get solved.
☟︎ sarah443: The police are a joke, if you have ever seen that show 'First 48'
sarah443: Its pretty obvious how little they know but try to make people think they do.
sarah443: Same, don't have cable anymore, got to the point where I didn't even use it.
mircea_popescu: but i do get court report summaries and all sorts of other things.
sarah443: Can get lost for hours looking through stuff sometimes.
sarah443: I follow little niche stories and try to keep the respective communities up to date on the happenings.
sarah443: They dont see the mainstream media or any other outlet so they would go undocumented otherwise
mircea_popescu: yes, but your problem is that if you don't build either your skill or your platform, you will get absolutely nowhere.
sarah443: My skills are more in sleuthing than writing
mircea_popescu: there's a fundamental difference between "i am sarah and i have a kid to feed" and "i am sarah, and i can put your words before 1mn social media nobodies" or "i'm publish weekly in every porn mag there is" or whatever.
sarah443: Yea that would be a good gig, writing interesting short but digestible articles.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 16:38 asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make is that: i hypothesize that the '0day market' consists very largely of folks who are sitting on 0day and not 'marketing' at all
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 02:43 mircea_popescu: iirc douchebag ended up here as a result of danielpbarron saying something in some what was it, free radio movement chat ?
mircea_popescu: i did not necessarily agree with him, but that dun make his words go away
sarah443: The 0day market is very interesting too
sarah443: I wish I had a company paying me to buy that stuff for research, that would be a fun job :)
lobbes: sarah443, have you checked out Qntra, btw? you may enjoy
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danielpbarron: the mtw guy who handled the money for him is currently in huge legal trouble, something about stealing millions of USD from dell computers i think
mircea_popescu: "i wish there were someone paying for what i want to do" is a terrible way to waste a life.
sarah443: I haven't, what is it? Googling now, on phone
sarah443: The content I mean, its interesting
sarah443: Oh, was that a different qntra?
mircea_popescu: holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 00:54 shinohai: Also fixed Qntra bot on twitter until next time it breaks
sarah443: I like twitters delivery, short blips + pic/video
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "This leaves the question who ha a motive very open." << This leaves the question of who had a motive very open.
sarah443: I hate the site and interface though
sarah443: Wow, that guy was part of this chat?
deedbot: MTW voiced for 30 minutes.
sarah443: He must be doing okay if hes out.
phf: that's a right and proper bouncer, if you can do 10 years or whatever, come out, and get your logs out of it
mircea_popescu: anyway, it all revolves on whether they can steal the money back or not. if they can't, they're on their knees begging. with some limited negotiation ability can get to keep a third or so and walk.
sarah443: Yeah, crimes of this nature they want restitution not jail.
sarah443: Spend X a year keeping someone locked up, or bleed them dry of everything they own...
sarah443: Gov loves the later, sometimes both
sarah443: Whats your opinion on universal basic income? (UBI)
sarah443: Its incredible the range of answers I get on that ;)
lobbes: btw phf I'm digging the unicode hovers in btcbase
trinque: sarah443: you should just go strip in the valley, marry some startup cuck, end up with half his shares in nothing. ah nevermind.
trinque: mircea_popescu: ack on msg
sarah443: Lol, at my age I wouldnt be a hot commodity.
phf: sarah443: you haven't been in the valley have you
sarah443: Most of my friends in Cali are trying to leave though so that should tell me something
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad plan, go to SF for a week, join all the events, from bdsm munches to apple hackathon day, and just doe eye one or two dweebs per. then suck cock like your life depends on it, and then get married.
phf: lobbes: ty, i'm messing with it, i added proper romanization for cyrillic, since it comes up so much. e.g. комсомольская правда! becomes "komsomol'skaja pravda!"
mircea_popescu: sarah443 it should tell you this : they're idiots. gotta do the work.
sarah443: Haha :) Ive done that for free
mircea_popescu: sarah443 yes, but you did it stupidly. as marylin points out : it tastes the same when it comes out of a multi-mn cock.
trinque: I'm just saying, similar word salad seems to have swallowed Framedragger whole
mircea_popescu: the key elements are a) high net worth dweebs, not the sorta guys you meet at raves and b) utter abjection, none of that "i'm a person and i have rights" bullcrap.
trinque: arguably bright dood, even
sarah443: mircea_popescu: a lot of them, are hard to 'bond' with
mircea_popescu: everyone's easy to bond with if you don't think you're about anything else than bonding.
sarah443: Yeah, some chemical confidence may help them too
mircea_popescu: anyway, sure there may be one or two 16yo
http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ 's out there. but there's well over 100k dweebs worth over 1mn in paper. out of the money they waste on rent you can buy a farm in the transvaal and enjoy free weekly gangbangs for the rest of your life.
mircea_popescu: "His notariety began seven years ago when he was arrested at a video game convention in Boston and accused of pirating $6 million in game code that was derived from a system used to train CIA agents for combat. May agreed to a Boston judge’s offer for pretrial probation in exchange for a dismissal of his case." << equivalency degree spelling aside, check out this guy!
mircea_popescu: why don't people say THAT when BingoBoingo goes "who's yo daddy" ? one helluva intro.
sarah443: Im really curious to see what comes out of the newly found crypto wealth kids
sarah443: Every week you see a news story about that happening to some kid
sarah443: Potential is there to do great or horrible things
sarah443: Its going to be an interesting time ahead though, either way 🤘
phf: parallel conversation
ckang: wow sarah443 is still blogging, dont think ive ever seen her type so much
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
sarah443: 🦄 Hey ckang was brushing my teeth about to turn in for the night. mircea_popescu great talking to you, I have more questions than answers now but it has me thinking about what I want to do a bit more 🌑
ckang: lol sarah443 those emojiis arent something you should use on irc
trinque: all I got are boxes over here.
ckang: most clients dont render them right
trinque: I"m projecting my own feelings into them
phf: trinque: try hovering on that line on btcbase though!
ckang: its a unicorn and a moon
ckang: i never realized how many new ones they added
ckang: like they have 6 different skintones
trinque: holy shit phf, it's like google translate for the kids
phf: courtesy of extra 150mb of sbcl memory usage
ckang: jesus its really that large?
ckang: terminal is finally catching up, I can see them in Terminal.app, some but not the newest ones
ckang: but it really messes up monospaced stuff
ckang: mircea_popescu: how can I return this 0.02 ?
ckang: just do another transfer or void it?
ckang: !!pay mircea_popescu 0.02
ckang: !!v 5E5B679908D7B4FEB4A78A2889C88580257875B15272262A7E840FDAF539AFA9
deedbot: ckang paid mircea_popescu 0.02
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea she has free time during the day and is normally wondering somewhere around the internet, new to irc though
ckang: yea, wild stuff, i honestly didnt believe douchebag
ckang: TomServo sounds familiar
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
ckang: maybe from a forum, its itching my brain
lobbes: ckang you could say it is a -mystery-
ckang: its going to bother me until I remember, I know that lol
ckang: i thought go-go dancing died with disco
ckang: i suspect they might have just renamed it to 'electronic'
ckang: i wanted to go to ultra but stuff came up, oh well
trinque is well past his psychedelics til sunrise phase
ckang: haha, well, its more manageable with the right titration ;)
ckang: ive never had a bad time with psychedelics+girls+music
phf: mircea_popescu: i've loaded a newer version of unicode definitions, so now it recognizes all this new junk too
ckang: im feeling you there, got me yawning by saying that
phf: mircea_popescu: insignificant, couple of megs maybe. not anything i noticed by just looking at top's output
phf: i was just throwing numbers around, but once i measured it
mircea_popescu: WOMAN EMOJI MODIFIER FITZPATRICK TYPE-5 ZERO WIDTH JOINER SCALES VARIATION SELECTOR-16 << evident improvement.
phf: i think we had the jokes going here at some point, of embedding a complete "princess maker" as a concatenative unicode language
mircea_popescu: از رفته قلم هیچ دگرگون نشود وز خوردن غم بجز جگرخون نشود گر در همه عمر خویش خونابه خوری یک قطره از آن که هست افزون نشود
phf: i'm thinking i'll, if i want to do some leisure coding, extend it with a couple of language specific romanizations. russian's there, but chinese and arabic might be a good idea
ckang: TomServo: ahhh okay, this one is from a forum, so probably ripped
ckang: If you guys want to test unicode
ckang: i have a the perfect ascii
ckang: perfect in the sense if something handles it wrong you will know quickly
ckang: btw mircea_popescu, what hours are you normally around here?
ckang: i knew another girl that was interested but she works and is in school
ckang: but no worries ill just look if you are around and she can wait ;p
ben_vulpes: so here's a wonder: apache for some reason takes 2.2 seconds to serve an mp-wp file that nginx can cough up in ten ms; even though both are nominally passing the same files over to php fpm pools
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 19:33 mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of a web server right nao.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 00:24 mircea_popescu: apache is a piece of shiot. so is nginx. so is everytrhiong else.
ben_vulpes: nginx is screamingly fast out of the box for this type of setup, but does not support .htaccess files which the wordpress folks tell me are very important
ben_vulpes: this is a 100x slowdown for handing some files over to a running php setup; i gotta be doing this entirely incorrectly
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks for the pointer but none of that helped
mircea_popescu: well, can't really be helped blindly, you'll have to look into its logs / status report and see wtf it's doing.
ben_vulpes: looking for how to turn performance information up now
ben_vulpes: heh i worked in the belly of a magento thing that served in 2.3s and that was a victory
mircea_popescu: anyway, for your peace of mind, it's definitely not apache itself. it serves trilema actually faster than nginx on internal testing, especially so under heavy load. (which there can mean > 100 req/s)
ben_vulpes: it is within a hair of intepreted speeds; which is driving me up a wall
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how is your apache plugged into php? mod_php with graybeard grease or?
ben_vulpes: but allll of the time is in the fcgi connection looks like; which makes me wonder is it buffering the entire response before then handing it off to the client, and would that even slow things down?
ckang: you need nginx+php-fpm to yield the true benefits
ckang: performance wise, specially with ttfb + magento
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes afaik ; but if you have a specific question (ie, in bash form) i can prolly answer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, using fcgi is probably not ideal -- there's for instance a recurring 500 error / resource leak issue associated.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile otherplaces, "Into pregnant chicks? You've come to the right place. I'm newly single and am ready to finally really try to explore the vast world of kink."
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally, "newly single pregnant female" is a thing. it doesn't collapse to "idiot", oh, no.
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a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:31 mircea_popescu: spyked prolly it included <
mircea_popescu: spyked iirc it barfs on << ; lt replacement should do it.
mircea_popescu: spyked answered ; by looking at feed i see you got a <5 minute reply (05:52 to 09:03). so go me!
david_francois: mircea_popescu: ty! just playing a bit with my IRC setup
phf: !!ratings david_francois
phf: !!reputation david_francois
phf: oh, nm, i missed the up in the logs, and thought it was missing from the logs altogether
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?! << It's one of those bot accounts. I don't do anything with the account. It is all bot.
mod6: They did suspend you for a brief time didn't they?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sure, then I intervened to click through a couple forms and the bot was back
deedbot: david_francois voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: david_francois: I noticed on of your trb nodes is perenially 100,000 blocks behind. Consider building a new bitcoind with either the asciilifeform or ben_vulpes aggression patches. Vastly improved sync behavior.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
☟︎ david_francois: david_francois: yeah, i got a new server with a SSD raid, I'm planning on getting a update TRB node there, which should be more reliable
☟︎ mod6: david_francois: hey, good deal, thx!
mod6: BingoBoingo: no worries. i agree though. f twitter.
ben_vulpes: quit fucking around and implement ubi already
☟︎ BingoBoingo: More like watermelon and fried chikkken piknic
ben_vulpes: no wait hang on i don't have enough btc for that yet
BingoBoingo: Give it time eventually any BTC will be enough btc when the rest of the world shits the bed
trinque: !~later tell mircea_popescu now getting a timeout
trinque: well fuck, that bot's gone?
trinque: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu now getting a timeout
ben_vulpes: lobbes wouldja put a vwap quoter in your bot please
lobbes: I attempted to slap a gribble instance up on pizarro shell last night, but hit a roadblock trying to get 'tcl' working locally (sqlite3 makefile, which gribble depends on, will not run without tcl apparently)
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: ah lobbes getting into the ol open source slap and tcl
deedbot: maximian voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: Do not use hexchat or anything with libpcre on 4.13.3
jurov: he found it himself?
douchebag: don't know why I made that 1337speak
ben_vulpes: jurov: i found that combination of words entertaining is all
jurov: to finish off that ascii art took him too much time, i guess
jurov: there's no meat there
jurov: ben_vulpes: it prolly needs some 1337hipster font
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 15:40 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 hour and 55 minutes ago: <trinque> now getting a timeout
trinque: and now back to prior error actually.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's actually better in some very limited circumstances not similar to your needs.
ckang: have some experience with php-fpm/nginx
mircea_popescu: ckang unrelated convo. there's a lot of subtext and whatnot going on in #trilema.
ben_vulpes: ckang: nginx is out for reasons of beloved clients want to use .htaccess files
mircea_popescu: nginx is not actually better for your usecase ; but worse. its notable strength sits with static content, where it actually outperforms apache. otherwise, it's generally not worth the time, even if some of the nuttier bored greybeards will set it up as a reverse proxy in lieu of a proper cache / buying more fucking machine to serve the static parts only.
ckang: with magento atleast, there are substantial improvements over apache/mod_php, fairly substantial too
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am looking forward to sharing the mod_php numbers and comparing them against the nginx php-fpm numbers
ckang: theres a whitepaper
ckang: on this exact subject too if you wanted to see
ben_vulpes: ckang: don't ask to link just link lol
mircea_popescu: ckang link, rather than offer, that way people might click.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 17:09 ben_vulpes: quit fucking around and implement ubi already
ben_vulpes: unless it's some webservercoin whitepaper in which case please no
mircea_popescu: that's the elephant in the room : the only remaining valid export of the us is === what argentina exports. nobody cares for the farts, but they'll buy the soy.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) germany b) teh deficit!
ben_vulpes: ubi's the best horse in the state-bankrupting race atm; right up there with a brand new war
mircea_popescu: if the us could live by spending german coin it'd be like i could live by digesting my own poop.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was saying that germany should give up and do ubi.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck do the ecb "money" come from if not the fucking fed ?
ben_vulpes: as they were the subj of the linked paper.
ben_vulpes: clearly not enough of it if everyone wants another 6% this year
ben_vulpes: shit i want another six percent too, who can i fire
mircea_popescu: everyone has to want another 6% lol. it's like wanting a new couch and curtains in the older "economic" model integrating the whitegoods.
mircea_popescu: "smart dishwasher wants 6% whereas bio-dishwasher wants new couch"
ckang: but i dont think this is the one im thinking of
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 19:00 lobbes: I attempted to slap a gribble instance up on pizarro shell last night, but hit a roadblock trying to get 'tcl' working locally (sqlite3 makefile, which gribble depends on, will not run without tcl apparently)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe the sluts lost interest. this is nail polish yes ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus. << Puede ser
mircea_popescu: "use cotton solvent and centrifugal separator to remove the rods from 100 dollar bills, then mix into plain nailpaint after having taken down the bill serials"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On that note do you want me to meet you at the airport or how is this working?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: baww i never even noticed
BingoBoingo: Aite, so roughly what time should I be expecting contact?
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't get why they construct their communications in this nonsensical manner. i'm 20% in still haven't fished an inkling of sense.
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea this isnt the one im thinking of, it was some years back as well
ckang: so it could be dated info, but a few years back we moved a lot of customers from apache to nginx and saw a fairly substantial drop in TTFB
ckang: also, dont ever join #5000
BingoBoingo: <ckang> so it could be dated info, but a few years back we moved a lot of customers from apache to nginx and saw a fairly substantial drop in TTFB << Eh, dark
httpd ftw
ckang: heh, well, if you want to witness it, try on a spare ircclient its fun ;)
ckang: remember antifuck.pl ?
ckang: basically it joins you to 5000 channels
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i have a car reserved, will ping you from hotel after properly slept << Also probably ought to warn you. The pedestrians are VERY accustomed to cars stopping for them.
ckang: unless you are running antifuck
mircea_popescu: pedestrians are accustomed to cars stopping for them everywhere, wtf.
BingoBoingo: I thought maybe after the pizzaro stuff you'd be taking off to Cabo Polonia to view the lobos marinos and nature
mircea_popescu: here, pedestrians are also very accustomed to WALKING ALONG THE HIGHWAY, and do not see why they should wear anything besides dark colors at night.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> pedestrians are accustomed to cars stopping for them everywhere, wtf. << In the sense of myself waiting on the corner to cross a street and... drivers fuck up traffic trying to wave me across when their stopping does nothing for cars heading the other direction
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's even more annoying than the "door holding" behaviours of autistic kids.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a guarantee you will get to see some of the city
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo depends if he decides he needs... i dunno, a pair of pliers, and it turns out montevideo dun have any.
phf: "second container is lathe"
mircea_popescu: i wasn't presuming to actually name whatever magical instrument will be missing ; but merely medicine tactics.
BingoBoingo: Well, only one way to find out if the city doesn't have and that way is sightseeing
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
cassidy3: My bitcoin did not come through yet :C
cassidy3: im doing pretty goood...i didnt get it tho
mircea_popescu: trinque i got a <deedbot> mircea_popescu paid cassidy3 0.02 ; you on it ?
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 technically, it's still just 23 hours, so bear with teh system.
trinque: I got it; douchebag's endless well of women sprung while I was doing surgery to the airgap box.
cassidy3: oki great!!! around when should I see it go through...?
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 16:47 asciilifeform: [5760131.063368] bitcoin-msghand[23369]: segfault at 0 ip 000000000048bd21 sp 00007f55d1759800 error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000]
a111: Logged on 2014-10-24 23:15 asciilifeform: kernel: patch[28805]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000403f35 sp 00007fffbc2fc8e0 error 4 in patch[400000+26000]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-23 04:24 asciilifeform: i have a 0.8 node that does crash quarterly or so. bitcoin-msghand[15569]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000blahblah sp 0000blahblahblah error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000]
trinque: y'know, if every chick that comes through withdraws her coin immediately, she's being paid ~USD~ for tits.
☟︎ trinque: not that it makes much difference to me.
trinque: cassidy3: couple of hours or so, probably sooner
ben_vulpes: trinque: assuming she goes and sells it
ben_vulpes: i prefer the conspiracy theory that douchebag has the fiverr hustle down: 20 bucks to show up and show your tits!
trinque: entirely possible; I'm just telling cassidy3 here to hold onto her coin a while, and buy a house in 2020, or w/e she likes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's my understanding that segfaults reported by the runtime in libraries are not customarily items that actually occuredf there, but merely were caught there incorrect ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but if i deref twice a pointer provided by alflib, will runtime say "idiot, you deref'd" or will it say "error 4 in alflib" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: because some guy in there was complaining of what it also looked to me like : "you demonstrated program can corrupt its own heap"
trinque: cassidy3: what wallet are you using? all of the withdrawals I have here are for 3 addresses, which leads me to believe you're using some "multisig" webshit as a wallet.
trinque: douchebag: if you just whip them through here without teaching them a damned thing, what's the point. I can go in the other room and see tits.
ben_vulpes: trinque: trezors also do that dumb shit.
trinque: ben_vulpes: who has the other key? "them"?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:26 trinque: y'know, if every chick that comes through withdraws her coin immediately, she's being paid ~USD~ for tits.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:27 cassidy3: what do u suggest doing with it?
mircea_popescu: that 10 btc would sell for about 70k or so today, ie five years later.
mircea_popescu: there's almost nothing you can buy for bitcoin that will be worth more than the bitcoin in the medium term.
cassidy3: douchebag told me to download an electrum wallet i didnt really know what bitcoin is he sorta explained it to me. r u saying i should hold onto now and sell it when it becomes more valuable?
mircea_popescu: douchebag mind finding a webwallet that does proper addresses for the girls ? none of that 3 bs.
douchebag: ive been telling them to use electrum or localbitcoins since a lot of them just ask for paypal
mircea_popescu: i c. well, one of the two works better than the other one.
trinque: there's a wallet service sitting right here, if they're just going to hold them on some website.
cassidy3: how often does the price change?
mircea_popescu: tell them to use localbitcoins then, at least they get to meet people.
ben_vulpes: the dropdown under "time period" will be useful
ben_vulpes: cassidy3: if you select "all data" you can give yourself the "what color is your lamborghini" tingles
trinque: ahemahem. deedbot is a wallet!
ben_vulpes: trinque: but the numbers don't show up on their computer har har har
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this loads no complex libraries stack.
trinque: ben_vulpes: sure they do, !!balance
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes of course they do ? !!balance , !!ledger etc
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:30 mircea_popescu: yes, but if i deref twice a pointer provided by alflib, will runtime say "idiot, you deref'd" or will it say "error 4 in alflib" ?
phf: it's a counterparty problem, they don't have trinque in their wots
cassidy3: oooh!oki ill look more at that stuff
ben_vulpes: anyways cassidy3 you can leave your btc with deedbot, trinque operates it and he is a knight of the realm
phf: mircea_popescu: of course, that's usg pseudo-wot that's maintained through all the ways that we laugh about here
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 if you're not desperate for money, keeping it may pay off ; and if you are desperate for money it might be the last thing to sell. think family jewels.
ben_vulpes: far more trustworthy than "localbitcoins", i mean who are they anyways, and "electrum", same q.
ben_vulpes: cassidy3: just never never never lose the gpg key you registered
trinque: cassidy3: in here your recourse if I steal your money is to tarnish the reputation held on deedbot that to date says I've stolen from no one. out there, what, sue?
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 say !!up to deedbot in a pm, then !!v with the string it sent.
douchebag: asciilifeform: The guy who created it said he's working on a proof of concept
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 18:04 asciilifeform: regex belongs in the tool chest next to 'duct tape'.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795806 <-- yeah, it doesn't look like nullptr deref. segfault addr looks somewhat close to ip, so on a first glance it would look like they tried to hijack rip and tripped a non-executable page. but can't tell for sure without a pmap or something similar.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:21 asciilifeform: ( the operative text, so that nobody else is stuck sifting through that pile o' rubbish : ' hexchat[30394]: segfault at 7f0ca6862199 ip 00007f0ca67a5993 sp 00007ffd83fab310 error 4 in libpcre.so.3.13.3[7f0ca678b000+70000] ' )
spyked: and ftr, linux kernel could report whether the trigger was a read, write or exec op, but for some unknown reason doesn't.
trinque: douchebag: I guess I scared cassidy3 off, lol. I ran these; tell the next batch to generate proper addresses, or better yet, to leave the coin on deedbot.
trinque: also wasn't there a report on trb dependencies coming?
mircea_popescu refers to his handy hashguide to indentify which one cassidy was
ckang: trinque: i dont think many of these girls have a long term mindset as far as investing goes, mostly college students or do menial low paying work
☟︎ ckang: i know when i was in school thats how it was anyways
trinque: man I dated a bartender slut once that kept cash gangster rolls under the bed
☟︎ ckang: dude ya, bartenders in the right town can do real well
ckang: but those jobs are hot commodities in college towns
ckang: fortunately i finished without debt but i wasnt living the high life either during
ckang: theres also plenty of girls that just go to school to meet a husband, which hey, more power to you i suppose.
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