ckanggirl: mircea_popescu: i have to run out for a bit, thanks for the chat and ill see whats involved in getting my passport renewed if you are serious :O
ckanggirl: bye yall!
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-09#1795123 << you can't press vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc on top of vtools_vdiff_sha, because there's a bunch of patches in between. manifest is getting rejected, because manifest specifically enforces order. if you try pressing them in order, i.e. the left column from genesis http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools it will work☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 23:30 mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3ujyM/?raw=true
phf: e.g. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/aiQHi/?raw=true
asciilifeform confesses to not yet grasping the mechanics of this
asciilifeform: how was phf's v9995-choking patch set , created ?
phf: by diffing two folders together, there's no magic there
asciilifeform: then why does mod6's vtron barf
phf: is that a rhetorical question?
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: trying to eat that log presently
mod6: woah. wait.
douchebag: wot
mod6: phf: so the graph at http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools is incorrect then?
mod6: i've put in a little fix for my 'check_ante' subroutine, but by what you're saying, this isn't correct then either (for press-path):
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wIaed/?raw=true
mod6: ok here's the graph I generated: http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/10/vtools_graph.html
mod6: this is a megapuzzler.
phf: mod6: the graph is correct. you have a patch chain A B C D E, you're trying to apply A B E. E is going to fail because you didn't apply C D
mod6: what i'm trying to get at is, if I follow the patch order in here (the first pp command), it is incorrect, for some reason: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wIaed/?raw=true
mod6: if I press either path, i blow up on the manifest.
mod6 scratches head
spyked: mircea_popescu, crap, apologies for the mess on trilema, I have no idea why it gets cut off. I'll try to repost the comment tomorrow
phf: mod6: the graph on btcbase vtools is the only way it can possibly press. either the left branch or the right branch. changing the order, or introducing the patches from left into right, or right into left is going to break manifest.
mod6: phf: i patched by hand in the order shown on the right path of your graph: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3ujyM/?raw=true
phf: mod6: are you trying to press the left hand or the right hand?
mod6: right hand
mod6: vtools_genesis.vpatch -> vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch -> vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch
phf: then instead of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc you should be applying vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc
mod6: err crap
mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
mod6: ok, so in that case: vtools_genesis.vpatch -> vtools_vdiff_sha.vpatch -> vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc
mod6: lemme do that quick.
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AVFdI/?raw=true << ok that works. but my vtron chokes on this patch set -- mis-orders the press path, for some reason I still don't understand yet.
mircea_popescu: spyked prolly it included <
ckang: *waves*
ckang: I saw trisha came though earlier, did you send me something by mistake or gift? mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: o hey there. how's the whole mastodon / whatnot thing coming along ?
ckang: hmm you may be thinking of something else, not familar with mastodon
ckang: yet anyways
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-09#1794717 <☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 15:51 ckang: I dont, never heard of it, looking now
ckang: I may have another girl if you are still accepting submissions
ckang: ohh the api, yea I couldnt quite figure out what it does outright
mircea_popescu: anyway, to answer your question : i wanted to ask you to make a "federated social media" server to pump out the #trilema log anyway. if you're making it you can consider the 2 bitcents an advance.
ckang: ah yea the pump.io, didnt know it by the other name
mircea_popescu: and sure, more girls welcome.
mircea_popescu: douchebag i thought this guy's more low level networking than you are!
ckang: shes on a phone give me a minute to get her connected
ckang: !!up sarah443
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
ckang: hey doll
sarah443: hi
ckang: mircea_popescu is the man you need to talk to
ckang: you can go ahead and register ill pm you the instructions
sarah443: OK
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795170 << this is actually a respectable protest. this would be a fine place for name space sorting, call the damn thing sha_y and keccak_x or somethign, rather than mix-and-mishmash.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:26 mod6: ok the damn file names are so similar im getting confused.
mircea_popescu: most significant word first.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795176 << is trisha the lawyer spawn chick then ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:35 ckang: I saw trisha came though earlier, did you send me something by mistake or gift? mircea_popescu
sarah443: OK im registered, do I need to do something to get the #?
ckang: mircea_popescu: ah thought that was the case, has it been voided or do I need to do anything on my end?
mircea_popescu: sarah443 you here to show us your tits then ?
mircea_popescu: ckang has what been voided ?
sarah443: Yes sir !
mircea_popescu: sarah443 87a1f8ad
mod6: phf: ahh, ok now im looking at your graph, my graph, and my press path. your right path does ~NOT~ contain 'vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch'. My press path does.
sarah443: 👍
mod6: I believe what might be happening here is that my traversal follows all edges, where as yours does something different perhaps
mircea_popescu: phf any chance logotron might replace unicode barf with the "unicode name" ?
mod6: my vtron pulls in 'vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc.vpatch' because it is an antecedent of 'vdiff_sha_static.vpatch' : http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/10/vtools_graph.html
mircea_popescu: mod6 i thought you didn't want to fuck with this anymore, in which case could just wait for him to finish and publish his grapher. or is it fun ?
mod6: lol, well i don't wanna have to fuck with it. and it's not exactly fun. but i really can't stop either.
mod6: i think i have dane bramage.
mircea_popescu: eh, relax, for all practical purposes we have this in hand, hanbot managed to press her press. it's not an emergency.
mod6: alright, i have a drive to get to the bottom of things. will back off.
mircea_popescu: it's nice and good, if it's pleasurable, or needful. but if it's neither don't drive yourself batty out of sheer masochism.
mod6: no worries. thanks Mr. P.
phf: mircea_popescu: i believe the only way to identify unicode barf is by maintaining or downloading explicit lists. we have legitimate unicode barf, so blanket replacement isn't going to work
mircea_popescu: darn.
mircea_popescu: look at this shit, they have "skin tones" https://emojipedia.org/thumbs-up-sign-type-5/ futa-i dumniezo sa-i futa.
phf: http://unicode.org/Public/emoji/11.0/
phf: "woman judge: medium-dark skin tone"
phf: 👩🏾‍⚖️
mircea_popescu: is this a lizard re female mediocrity ?
phf: https://unicode.org/Public/emoji/11.0/emoji-test.txt all kinds of stuff in there
mircea_popescu: this thing is so fucking stupid...
phf: merperson: dark skin tone, man fairy: light skin tone
mircea_popescu: phf could we maintain explicit lists of permitted unicrap, such as arabic and chinese ? and rape the rest ?
mircea_popescu: half my googling today has been "wtf did she just say to me ?"
phf: i think i'm going to add a replacement engine instead, where various words get replaced with emoji
phf: modern btcbase
mircea_popescu: is phf gonna be "black-and-blue corpse" ?
phf: "right-facing fist: medium-dark skin tone"
mircea_popescu: face-facing fist more like it.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck told these idiots fists have faces anyway.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is the "queer" modifier anyway. you can say "nigger washingmachine judge" but you can't say "faggot judge" ? what's this, fellow traveller disenfranchisement ?
phf: jeez i don't even know how to work with this soup in sbcl, that woman judge entry translates to, i shit you not, the following sequence of sbcl character names: ("WOMAN" "U1F3FE" "ZERO_WIDTH_JOINER" "SCALES" "VARIATION_SELECTOR-16")
mircea_popescu: uifefe, plain enough. what is the problem you encounter ?
mircea_popescu: don't tell me you're not fluent in swahili.
phf: swahili is out, it's wakandan these days
mircea_popescu: a right.
phf: i like the subgroup animal reptile, "turtle, snake, dragon, t-rex"
mircea_popescu: i can not even.
phf: there's probably enough stuff there to make a very dull roguelike though.
mircea_popescu: and spend the rest of your life dealing with obscure samsung driver errors.
mircea_popescu: !!up sarah443
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i thought dragons were palmipedes. hence drake. wtf "reptile".
phf: no see you don't understand taxonomy, it is also green
mircea_popescu: jesus christ you're probably right.
mircea_popescu: phf here's a perhaps useful summa of all this : add the name as a tooltip ? so if i hover it shows it, and if it's useless well, so be it.
mircea_popescu: trilema does this for footnotes by setting the "title" attribute on a tag, but i imagine same can be done with a div ?
phf: hmm, interesting, i could put a title where everything above a ascii is decomposed into names
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nzpL2/?raw=true
phf: not sure how annoying that's going to make hovering though
mircea_popescu: no idea ; also not clear if it's actually worth phf time.
phf: i'm mostly afraid of having to download any more unicode information into my brain
mircea_popescu: i can see it.
mircea_popescu: in any case it was nice having someone to complain to. shit gets infuriating.
phf: the infamous spitoon
sarah443: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XR63u7yy/image.jpg
sarah443: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fg198Xxa/2nd.jpg
sarah443: Sorry I did it on paper and ckang had me redo it and my pen didnt want to write on skin too easily
mircea_popescu: lipstick!
sarah443: Is that bad? :x
mircea_popescu: !!pay sarah443 0.02
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yHogQ/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: so what do you do other than writing on your chest, sarah443 ?
sarah443: Take care of my child currently.
sarah443: Im at a point I need to decided, school or _____
mircea_popescu: is it foon ?
sarah443: decide*
sarah443: heh foon = fun ?
mircea_popescu: yeah
sarah443: Boring would be a better term lol
sarah443: But I love him and he would be in daycare otherwise
mircea_popescu: how old are you, if i may be so bold ?
sarah443: 24
mircea_popescu: well... school kinda costs serious dough don't it ?
sarah443: You?
mircea_popescu: i'm 37, i'm not old.
sarah443: It does, but my problem is, I don't want to commit to something since I can't think of anything that I can see myself doing forever.
sarah443: If that makes sense.
mircea_popescu: that's one way of looking at it.
sarah443: Ive just never done something I have been super passionate about.
mircea_popescu: well... why not ?
sarah443: Its always out of necessity.
sarah443: When you have to keep a baby fed and the lights on, it limits things a bit.
mircea_popescu: i guess it must.
ckang: I kind of wanted to do investigative stuff online, like the catch a predator style shows.
ckang: Deep dives into odd fields
mircea_popescu: that whole jerry springer stuff is not very enjoyable from what i hear.
phf: check dat shit out, however on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795208 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795224 http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-22#1028604 and http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-22#1028606☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:52 sarah443: 👍
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 02:00 phf: 👩🏾‍⚖️
a111: Logged on 2015-02-22 06:28 asciilifeform: комсомольская правда!
a111: Logged on 2015-02-22 06:29 asciilifeform: ☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
phf: *hover
ckang: mircea_popescu: I was thinking more deep web
mircea_popescu: phf pretty good neh ?
ckang: Not really love drama
mircea_popescu: ckang hey, if you ever find anything interesting i'm all ears.
phf: yeah i like it, 9 lines of code
ckang: As far as hidden sites go?
mircea_popescu: splendid.
mircea_popescu: ckang the republic's always looking for folk that aren't out and out imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: iirc douchebag ended up here as a result of danielpbarron saying something in some what was it, free radio movement chat ?
ckang: !!up sarah443
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
sarah443: ty ;)
sarah443: ckang is always finding some nasty snuff sites and linking them
mircea_popescu: !#s from:mircea "tumblr"
a111: 2417 results for "from:mircea \"tumblr\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea%20%22tumblr%22
sarah443: I would like to do more like offensive sort of research
mircea_popescu: sarah443 how's offensive research go ?
ckang: yea the child predator stuff is kind of odd IMO
ckang: since it seems like they sorta bait people
ckang: ive only seen a few eps though, not sure how they actually do it
sarah443: They actually use bots to troll people into talking with them and chat analysis
mircea_popescu: ckang structure determines content and all that. once you try to go in the "i can't believe" bla bla format, you'll be producing the repsective content.
sarah443: mircea_popescu: I guess a more proactive approach, most stuff is counter active, post mortems
sarah443: If that makes sense?
mircea_popescu: not exactly. got an example ?
sarah443: Well say a site is hacked, the group leaves their tag somewhere.
mircea_popescu: not usually.
sarah443: I want to be in these groups, not as law enforcement.
sarah443: but more so boots on the ground for the industry
sarah443: Whichever it may be, counterfieting stuff has always seemed interesting
sarah443: China is incredible at some of the stuff they do with that
ckang: lol, I got a chinese knife
mircea_popescu: umh. counterfeiting as in, pucci bags and whatnot ?
ckang: it was 1/10th the price of the original
ckang: same materials, box, etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682707☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally : the pineapple hacking device is this chinese blade i bought on a lark. turns out it's the best steel i own / have seen in a long while.
mircea_popescu: they improved significantly.
ckang: having owned the fake & original you could barely tell the difference
ckang: the good mfgs will use D2 steel and such
ckang: but yea agreed most stuff is 100% garbage
sarah443: There are whole portions of the internet that are pretty much China only. ecommerce wise.
mircea_popescu: sarah443 ok, and it's a living, tenuous and marginal as it may be, buy shit in china resell it in the states. but how's this relate to website defacing ?
ckang: the lengths they go through to counterfeit is pretty wild
sarah443: mircea_popescu: It depends on the attack
sarah443: Remember back during the anon/lulzsec days?
mircea_popescu: yes ?
sarah443: That was all about being vocal, "we did it, so what?"
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: this is a very... perception-driven approach to the events.
sarah443: The social justice hackers, that was a bad example
sarah443: But I don't want to just look over past things and try to figure things out, I want to be there before anything happens
mircea_popescu: well, are you familiar with computer arcana ?
sarah443: Just for a journalistic point, I can't work for law enforcement
sarah443: Im not, arcana is like magic?
mircea_popescu: well, technically arcana denotes finnicky, complicated and not directly obvious points.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't understand computers, how would you "be there" "before anything happens" ?
sarah443: I was thinking arcane :)
mircea_popescu: sure, arcana is the noun of arcane.
sarah443: Well theres movements taking place that eventually will become bigger deals
mircea_popescu: or become nothing at all.
sarah443: In the political communities
mircea_popescu: but do you then have a journalistic platform, like, working relationships with many/most publishers ?
sarah443: You have 2 extremes
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: i'm an extremist after all. gotta keep up the standards.
sarah443: Working with publishers, but I was thinking about maybe doing web editorials. I like the quick turn around time on that media and distribution
sarah443: like Motherboard puts out some interesting reads sometimes
mircea_popescu: it doesn't help your cause that online media is just about dead.
sarah443: The entire darknet market thing was something I really wanted to delv into
sarah443: Super interesting but its being forced further underground
lobbes: not much there, I reckon. usg honeypots
sarah443: Some of the research they did on them was pretty interesting, like quality of drugs for example
sarah443: Was typically way better
mircea_popescu: nobody's forcing anything anywhere ; the "darknet" bla bla is "being forced underground" in the exact sense the previous emo generation was "being forced into the closet".
sarah443: Well, its more so the government cracking down and people get spooked I suppose
sarah443: I folllow deepdotweb on twitter and they have some good articles sometimes
mircea_popescu: spooked my foot, when we looked through the smoldering pile left after that idiot ross, it came to light ~nobody was using rsa.
sarah443: Yeah amazing how others repeat the mistakes the previous iteration.
sarah443: Its almost like planning the perfect murder lol
sarah443: You see those shows and think, "oh, I wouldnt screw that up"
mircea_popescu: eh. the quality of police work has so terribly degraded in the past half century, if anyone does ANY PLANNING AT ALL it's a murder that'll never get solved.
mircea_popescu: half the ones with 0 planning also make the cut.
sarah443: The police are a joke, if you have ever seen that show 'First 48'
sarah443: Its pretty obvious how little they know but try to make people think they do.
mircea_popescu: i don't really watch tv.
sarah443: Same, don't have cable anymore, got to the point where I didn't even use it.
mircea_popescu: but i do get court report summaries and all sorts of other things.
sarah443: I love PACER
sarah443: Can get lost for hours looking through stuff sometimes.
mircea_popescu: so why not make a blog, publish summaries ?
sarah443: I follow little niche stories and try to keep the respective communities up to date on the happenings.
sarah443: They dont see the mainstream media or any other outlet so they would go undocumented otherwise
mircea_popescu: yes, but your problem is that if you don't build either your skill or your platform, you will get absolutely nowhere.
sarah443: My skills are more in sleuthing than writing
mircea_popescu: there's a fundamental difference between "i am sarah and i have a kid to feed" and "i am sarah, and i can put your words before 1mn social media nobodies" or "i'm publish weekly in every porn mag there is" or whatever.
sarah443: Yea that would be a good gig, writing interesting short but digestible articles.
mircea_popescu: sarah443 that's unfortunate, very bright minds were on the record complainign there's no good market for sleuthing for fundamental reasons. like http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-13#1237185☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 16:38 asciilifeform: the point i was trying to make is that: i hypothesize that the '0day market' consists very largely of folks who are sitting on 0day and not 'marketing' at all
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795309 << l0de radio hour, i called in and donated 0.054 via deedbot which was 800 USD at the time, which has become a sort of meme on his show now☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 02:43 mircea_popescu: iirc douchebag ended up here as a result of danielpbarron saying something in some what was it, free radio movement chat ?
sarah443: Im pretty ADD
mircea_popescu: i did not necessarily agree with him, but that dun make his words go away
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron a right, i recall now.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool huh.
sarah443: The 0day market is very interesting too
sarah443: I wish I had a company paying me to buy that stuff for research, that would be a fun job :)
lobbes: sarah443, have you checked out Qntra, btw? you may enjoy
lobbes: !!up sarah443
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: the mtw guy who handled the money for him is currently in huge legal trouble, something about stealing millions of USD from dell computers i think
mircea_popescu: "i wish there were someone paying for what i want to do" is a terrible way to waste a life.
sarah443: I haven't, what is it? Googling now, on phone
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron o.O link or something ?
mircea_popescu: sarah443 qntra.net
sarah443: I like the twitter feed
mircea_popescu: qntra has a twitter feed ?!
sarah443: The content I mean, its interesting
sarah443: Oh, was that a different qntra?
sarah443: https://twitter.com/qntra
mircea_popescu: holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?!
lobbes: oh hey, I think that was shinohai >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1536724☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 00:54 shinohai: Also fixed Qntra bot on twitter until next time it breaks
mircea_popescu: ah!
mircea_popescu: iiincredibru
sarah443: I like twitters delivery, short blips + pic/video
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "This leaves the question who ha a motive very open." << This leaves the question of who had a motive very open.
sarah443: I hate the site and interface though
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2018/01/30/delaware-hacker-indicted-multimillion-dollar-fraud-scheme/1076443001/
mircea_popescu: dark web. pastebin plox ?
sarah443: Wow, that guy was part of this chat?
mircea_popescu: !#s from:MTW
a111: 26 results for "from:MTW", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3AMTW
sarah443: Oh lol, hes here now
mircea_popescu: !!up MTW
deedbot: MTW voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: yo MTW!
mircea_popescu: lol
sarah443: He must be doing okay if hes out.
phf: that's a right and proper bouncer, if you can do 10 years or whatever, come out, and get your logs out of it
mircea_popescu: mirccloud ?
phf: hehe
mircea_popescu: anyway, it all revolves on whether they can steal the money back or not. if they can't, they're on their knees begging. with some limited negotiation ability can get to keep a third or so and walk.
mircea_popescu: if they can steal it back however, you're fucked.
sarah443: Yeah, crimes of this nature they want restitution not jail.
sarah443: Spend X a year keeping someone locked up, or bleed them dry of everything they own...
mircea_popescu: brings us right back to http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/
sarah443: Gov loves the later, sometimes both
danielpbarron: maybe these work: http://archive.is/hIwqY aaand the first one dun wanna archive so .. http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/IwVY2/?raw=true
sarah443: Whats your opinion on universal basic income? (UBI)
mircea_popescu: ty danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: sarah443 terrible.
trinque: ah man, dark web and UBI
sarah443: Its incredible the range of answers I get on that ;)
lobbes: btw phf I'm digging the unicode hovers in btcbase
trinque: sarah443: you should just go strip in the valley, marry some startup cuck, end up with half his shares in nothing. ah nevermind.
mircea_popescu: that's a point. where do you live sarah443 ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: ack on msg
sarah443: Lol, at my age I wouldnt be a hot commodity.
sarah443: Way more/willing 18 year olds
phf: sarah443: you haven't been in the valley have you
mircea_popescu: you would be, yes. ever read the camwhore article ?
sarah443: mircea_popescu: Florida
sarah443: Most of my friends in Cali are trying to leave though so that should tell me something
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad plan, go to SF for a week, join all the events, from bdsm munches to apple hackathon day, and just doe eye one or two dweebs per. then suck cock like your life depends on it, and then get married.
phf: lobbes: ty, i'm messing with it, i added proper romanization for cyrillic, since it comes up so much. e.g. комсомольская правда! becomes "komsomol'skaja pravda!"
mircea_popescu: sarah443 it should tell you this : they're idiots. gotta do the work.
sarah443: Haha :) Ive done that for free
mircea_popescu: sarah443 yes, but you did it stupidly. as marylin points out : it tastes the same when it comes out of a multi-mn cock.
sarah443: Guess im the idiot
trinque: I'm just saying, similar word salad seems to have swallowed Framedragger whole
mircea_popescu: the key elements are a) high net worth dweebs, not the sorta guys you meet at raves and b) utter abjection, none of that "i'm a person and i have rights" bullcrap.
trinque: arguably bright dood, even
mircea_popescu: the time for that is in divorce court.
sarah443: mircea_popescu: a lot of them, are hard to 'bond' with
sarah443: Very shelled/walled off
mircea_popescu: everyone's easy to bond with if you don't think you're about anything else than bonding.
mircea_popescu: that's how puppies got so popular.
sarah443: Yeah, some chemical confidence may help them too
mircea_popescu: anyway, sure there may be one or two 16yo http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ 's out there. but there's well over 100k dweebs worth over 1mn in paper. out of the money they waste on rent you can buy a farm in the transvaal and enjoy free weekly gangbangs for the rest of your life.
mircea_popescu: "His notariety began seven years ago when he was arrested at a video game convention in Boston and accused of pirating $6 million in game code that was derived from a system used to train CIA agents for combat. May agreed to a Boston judge’s offer for pretrial probation in exchange for a dismissal of his case." << equivalency degree spelling aside, check out this guy!
mircea_popescu: why don't people say THAT when BingoBoingo goes "who's yo daddy" ? one helluva intro.
sarah443: Im really curious to see what comes out of the newly found crypto wealth kids
sarah443: Every week you see a news story about that happening to some kid
mircea_popescu: lol.
sarah443: Potential is there to do great or horrible things
mircea_popescu: you're seeing it, aren;t you ?
mircea_popescu: i mean... just look at your tits.
sarah443: Its going to be an interesting time ahead though, either way 🤘
mircea_popescu: TOOLTIP FAIL!
phf: bah
sarah443: Did I do something wrong?
mircea_popescu: nah.
phf: parallel conversation
mircea_popescu: DARK conversation underneath!
ckang: wow sarah443 is still blogging, dont think ive ever seen her type so much
ckang: !!up sarah443
deedbot: sarah443 voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JKsdX/?raw=true
sarah443: 🦄 Hey ckang was brushing my teeth about to turn in for the night. mircea_popescu great talking to you, I have more questions than answers now but it has me thinking about what I want to do a bit more 🌑
ckang: lol sarah443 those emojiis arent something you should use on irc
trinque: all I got are boxes over here.
ckang: most clients dont render them right
ckang: yea
trinque: I"m projecting my own feelings into them
trinque: they look the same
phf: trinque: try hovering on that line on btcbase though!
ckang: its a unicorn and a moon
trinque looks
ckang: i never realized how many new ones they added
ckang: like they have 6 different skintones
trinque: holy shit phf, it's like google translate for the kids
phf: courtesy of extra 150mb of sbcl memory usage
ckang: jesus its really that large?
ckang: terminal is finally catching up, I can see them in Terminal.app, some but not the newest ones
ckang: but it really messes up monospaced stuff
trinque: > SIGN OF THE HORNS
trinque: ahahaha
ckang: mircea_popescu: how can I return this 0.02 ?
mircea_popescu: ckang well, tell her the place's not going anywhere.
ckang: just do another transfer or void it?
mircea_popescu: ckang you can just !!pay mircea_popescu 0.02
ckang: !!pay mircea_popescu 0.02
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FW3Fx/?raw=true
ckang: !!v 5E5B679908D7B4FEB4A78A2889C88580257875B15272262A7E840FDAF539AFA9
deedbot: ckang paid mircea_popescu 0.02
mircea_popescu: trinque i have nfi o.O
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea she has free time during the day and is normally wondering somewhere around the internet, new to irc though
mircea_popescu: pretty cool this whole payments stuff huh.
ckang: yea, wild stuff, i honestly didnt believe douchebag
ckang: Hmmm
ckang: TomServo sounds familiar
mircea_popescu: !!up cassidy3
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
ckang: maybe from a forum, its itching my brain
mircea_popescu: do you know how to voice yourself cassidy3 ?
lobbes: ckang you could say it is a -mystery-
mircea_popescu: o lol i hadn't rated her.
ckang: its going to bother me until I remember, I know that lol
mircea_popescu: !!rate cassidy3 1 go-go dancer girl
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kpk5A/?raw=true
ckang: i thought go-go dancing died with disco
mircea_popescu: hey, if punk is alive, how could disco have died.
ckang: i suspect they might have just renamed it to 'electronic'
ckang: i wanted to go to ultra but stuff came up, oh well
trinque is well past his psychedelics til sunrise phase
ckang: haha, well, its more manageable with the right titration ;)
ckang: ive never had a bad time with psychedelics+girls+music
phf: mircea_popescu: i've loaded a newer version of unicode definitions, so now it recognizes all this new junk too
trinque: night all.
mod6: ni ni
ckang: im feeling you there, got me yawning by saying that
phf: laters
mircea_popescu: phf how much memory is this wasting now ?
phf: mircea_popescu: insignificant, couple of megs maybe. not anything i noticed by just looking at top's output
mircea_popescu: ah, i thought it was 150
phf: i was just throwing numbers around, but once i measured it
mircea_popescu: dat fitzpatrick type-5
phf: i think we had the jokes going here at some point, of embedding a complete "princess maker" as a concatenative unicode language
mircea_popescu: از رفته قلم هیچ دگر‌گون نشود وز خوردن غم بجز جگرخون نشود گر در همه عمر خویش خونابه خوری یک قطره از آن که هست افزون نشود
mircea_popescu: you know this is actually pretty great.
mircea_popescu: 和我一起,那是你的婊子掴你进监狱,并与所有的民族疯人院。
mircea_popescu: oya. kudos phf
phf: i'm thinking i'll, if i want to do some leisure coding, extend it with a couple of language specific romanizations. russian's there, but chinese and arabic might be a good idea
TomServo: ckang: As lobbes hinted, Mystery Science Theater 3000. A commonly ripped off name, I've discovered. http://www.yuchtar.com/Tom.jpg
mircea_popescu: phf it's already a great help as it is, but sure.
ckang: TomServo: ahhh okay, this one is from a forum, so probably ripped
ckang: If you guys want to test unicode
ckang: i have a the perfect ascii
ckang: perfect in the sense if something handles it wrong you will know quickly
ckang: btw mircea_popescu, what hours are you normally around here?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, whenever i feel like it.
mircea_popescu: why ?
ckang: i knew another girl that was interested but she works and is in school
ckang: but no worries ill just look if you are around and she can wait ;p
mircea_popescu: works.
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2018/03/29/announcing-the-newest-bitcoin-infrastructure-node-or-why-ethereum-is-so-utterly-fucked/ < in other news.
ben_vulpes: so here's a wonder: apache for some reason takes 2.2 seconds to serve an mp-wp file that nginx can cough up in ten ms; even though both are nominally passing the same files over to php fpm pools
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/3-small-tweaks-make-apache-fly
mircea_popescu: the devil is in the configs.
ben_vulpes reads
mircea_popescu: but anyway, nginx is not actually better ; or at least wasn't, as of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1505137☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 19:33 mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of a web server right nao.
mircea_popescu: or previous check http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-29#1114962☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 00:24 mircea_popescu: apache is a piece of shiot. so is nginx. so is everytrhiong else.
ben_vulpes: nginx is screamingly fast out of the box for this type of setup, but does not support .htaccess files which the wordpress folks tell me are very important
ben_vulpes: this is a 100x slowdown for handing some files over to a running php setup; i gotta be doing this entirely incorrectly
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks for the pointer but none of that helped
mircea_popescu: well, can't really be helped blindly, you'll have to look into its logs / status report and see wtf it's doing.
mircea_popescu: https://www.machmetrics.com/speed-blog/average-page-load-times-websites-2018/ << in other lulz. TEN SECONDS.
ben_vulpes: looking for how to turn performance information up now
ben_vulpes: heh i worked in the belly of a magento thing that served in 2.3s and that was a victory
mircea_popescu: anyway, for your peace of mind, it's definitely not apache itself. it serves trilema actually faster than nginx on internal testing, especially so under heavy load. (which there can mean > 100 req/s)
ben_vulpes: mildly pacifying, ty
ben_vulpes: it is within a hair of intepreted speeds; which is driving me up a wall
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how is your apache plugged into php? mod_php with graybeard grease or?
ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/jLBq6/?raw=true << typical; still working to increase verbosity
ben_vulpes: but allll of the time is in the fcgi connection looks like; which makes me wonder is it buffering the entire response before then handing it off to the client, and would that even slow things down?
ckang: you need nginx+php-fpm to yield the true benefits
ckang: performance wise, specially with ttfb + magento
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes afaik ; but if you have a specific question (ie, in bash form) i can prolly answer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, using fcgi is probably not ideal -- there's for instance a recurring 500 error / resource leak issue associated.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's very likely the cause of your delay.
mircea_popescu: basically an exact rehash of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678490☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-02 12:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678460 << how about we roll the boot time ( to shell!! ) of your cmachinekernel, how about?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile otherplaces, "Into pregnant chicks? You've come to the right place. I'm newly single and am ready to finally really try to explore the vast world of kink."
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally, "newly single pregnant female" is a thing. it doesn't collapse to "idiot", oh, no.
mircea_popescu: !!up david_francois
deedbot: david_francois voiced for 30 minutes.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795174 <-- I wrapped those into pre tags, but it seems they got parsed anyway. replacing all < with &lt; and crossing my fingers; but if mp-wp has some other way of rendering math, lemme know.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 01:31 mircea_popescu: spyked prolly it included <
mircea_popescu: spyked iirc it barfs on << ; lt replacement should do it.
mircea_popescu: trinque try again at your leisure ?
mircea_popescu: spyked answered ; by looking at feed i see you got a <5 minute reply (05:52 to 09:03). so go me!
david_francois: mircea_popescu: ty! just playing a bit with my IRC setup
phf: !!ratings david_francois
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qto2m/?raw=true
phf: !!reputation david_francois
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/44R0a/?raw=true
phf: oh, nm, i missed the up in the logs, and thought it was missing from the logs altogether
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> holy shit look at that. wtf, twitter's going to the dogs, they've not banned BingoBoingo ?! << It's one of those bot accounts. I don't do anything with the account. It is all bot.
mod6: They did suspend you for a brief time didn't they?
mod6: https://archive.is/Fzk6L
BingoBoingo: mod6: Sure, then I intervened to click through a couple forms and the bot was back
BingoBoingo: !!up david_francois
deedbot: david_francois voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: david_francois: I noticed on of your trb nodes is perenially 100,000 blocks behind. Consider building a new bitcoind with either the asciilifeform or ben_vulpes aggression patches. Vastly improved sync behavior.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
david_francois: david_francois: yeah, i got a new server with a SSD raid, I'm planning on getting a update TRB node there, which should be more reliable
david_francois: BingoBoingo: ^
BingoBoingo: david_francois: Sweet
mod6: david_francois: hey, good deal, thx!
mod6: BingoBoingo: no worries. i agree though. f twitter.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/us-destroyer-and-russian-warplanes-engage-in-intimate-activities-in-syrian-waters/ << Qntra - US Destroyer And Russian Warplanes Engage In Intimate Activities In Syrian Waters
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/labor-unrest-in-germany-throws-german-schedules-into-shambles/ << Qntra - Labor Unrest In Germany Throws German Schedules Into Shambles
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "agitate"
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
ben_vulpes: pffff six percent pay raise
ben_vulpes: quit fucking around and implement ubi already
BingoBoingo: More like watermelon and fried chikkken piknic
ben_vulpes: no wait hang on i don't have enough btc for that yet
BingoBoingo: Give it time eventually any BTC will be enough btc when the rest of the world shits the bed
mod6: ^
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/10/the-uraguayo-idea-of-cultural-sensitivity/ << Bingo Blog - The Uraguayo Idea Of Cultural Sensitivity
trinque: !~later tell mircea_popescu now getting a timeout
trinque: well fuck, that bot's gone?
ben_vulpes: again, even
BingoBoingo: !Q works with lobbesbot
trinque: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu now getting a timeout
lobbesbot: trinque: The operation succeeded.
trinque: ty BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: lobbes wouldja put a vwap quoter in your bot please
lobbes: I attempted to slap a gribble instance up on pizarro shell last night, but hit a roadblock trying to get 'tcl' working locally (sqlite3 makefile, which gribble depends on, will not run without tcl apparently)
ben_vulpes: ah lobbes getting into the ol open source slap and tcl
ben_vulpes: https://www.oglaf.com/wildyeast/ << fuckin died
jurov: !!up maximian
deedbot: maximian voiced for 30 minutes.
douchebag: ooh
douchebag: hexchat 0day
douchebag: Do not use hexchat or anything with libpcre on 4.13.3
jurov: douchebag: sauce?
douchebag: ill have a PoC in a bit
ben_vulpes: > douchebag sauce
jurov: he found it himself?
douchebag: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/undergroundagency/ezines/master/L4t3r4L_adderaLL.txt
douchebag: first one in 0x04
douchebag: My friend is pissed though
douchebag: these guys stole his hexchat 0day
douchebag: before he even made P0C
douchebag: PoC
douchebag: don't know why I made that 1337speak
ben_vulpes: jurov: i found that combination of words entertaining is all
jurov: to finish off that ascii art took him too much time, i guess
jurov: there's no meat there
jurov: no meat no sauce
ben_vulpes: my eyes bled
jurov: ben_vulpes: it prolly needs some 1337hipster font
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795630 << the particular module you chose tears down and rebuilts the whole php interpreter on each call. it's ~exactly~ like rebooting your "virtual machine" after every bash line and wondering why is bash so slow.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 15:40 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aok; i'm baffled as to why throwing a file to the running php process for evaluation would be so slow under apache but not nginx; but mod_php looks to be The Right Thing
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 hour and 55 minutes ago: <trinque> now getting a timeout
mircea_popescu: trinque weirdballs. ima see wtf.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nuts
trinque: and now back to prior error actually.
trinque shrugs
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's actually better in some very limited circumstances not similar to your needs.
ckang: what error?
ckang: have some experience with php-fpm/nginx
mircea_popescu: ckang unrelated convo. there's a lot of subtext and whatnot going on in #trilema.
ben_vulpes: ckang: different thread
ckang: ah
ben_vulpes: ckang: nginx is out for reasons of beloved clients want to use .htaccess files
ckang: oh boo
ckang: magento?
mircea_popescu: nginx is not actually better for your usecase ; but worse. its notable strength sits with static content, where it actually outperforms apache. otherwise, it's generally not worth the time, even if some of the nuttier bored greybeards will set it up as a reverse proxy in lieu of a proper cache / buying more fucking machine to serve the static parts only.
ben_vulpes: nah mircea_popescu's wordpress
mircea_popescu: "how to spend a grand to save two dimes"
ckang: with magento atleast, there are substantial improvements over apache/mod_php, fairly substantial too
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am looking forward to sharing the mod_php numbers and comparing them against the nginx php-fpm numbers
mircea_popescu: should make a nice blog article huh.
ckang: theres a whitepaper
ckang: on this exact subject too if you wanted to see
ben_vulpes: ckang: don't ask to link just link lol
mircea_popescu: ckang link, rather than offer, that way people might click.
mircea_popescu: lol.
ckang: sure
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795641 << pait out of what, monetized chinese tarrifs on united states Only Remaining (ie, agricultural) products ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 17:09 ben_vulpes: quit fucking around and implement ubi already
ben_vulpes: unless it's some webservercoin whitepaper in which case please no
mircea_popescu: that's the elephant in the room : the only remaining valid export of the us is === what argentina exports. nobody cares for the farts, but they'll buy the soy.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) germany b) teh deficit!
ben_vulpes: ubi's the best horse in the state-bankrupting race atm; right up there with a brand new war
mircea_popescu: if the us could live by spending german coin it'd be like i could live by digesting my own poop.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was saying that germany should give up and do ubi.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck do the ecb "money" come from if not the fucking fed ?
ben_vulpes: as they were the subj of the linked paper.
mircea_popescu: oh oh. afaik they do.
mircea_popescu: you must not be white male though.
ben_vulpes: clearly not enough of it if everyone wants another 6% this year
ben_vulpes: shit i want another six percent too, who can i fire
mircea_popescu: everyone has to want another 6% lol. it's like wanting a new couch and curtains in the older "economic" model integrating the whitegoods.
ckang: https://blog.aheadworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Optimizing_Magento_Performance_by_aheadWorks_eng.pdf
mircea_popescu: "smart dishwasher wants 6% whereas bio-dishwasher wants new couch"
ckang: page 4
mircea_popescu: ckang holy shit they put a pdf on a wordpress blog ?
ckang: but i dont think this is the one im thinking of
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795655 << why aren;t you running the trinquebot ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 19:00 lobbes: I attempted to slap a gribble instance up on pizarro shell last night, but hit a roadblock trying to get 'tcl' working locally (sqlite3 makefile, which gribble depends on, will not run without tcl apparently)
asciilifeform: in other noose, highest grade of anti-usg glittery polish, softbanned (absent from stores)
asciilifeform: ( what grade ? the kind with 'baccilae', i.e. visible multicoloured rods )
mircea_popescu: no way ?!
asciilifeform: well i can only speak for this loc
asciilifeform: spot survey of shops.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus.
asciilifeform: this is not a calamity, or anyffing, can still create it here, just needs a bit of mixin'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe the sluts lost interest. this is nail polish yes ?
asciilifeform: correct
asciilifeform: ( for n00b readers -- folk recipe is traditional, dating to the dawn of cheap digital photo afaik, and certainly not asciilifeform's invention )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i want you to be prepared with laptop and camera to document the landing of this nut. it'll prolly be like the 1st coming of technojesus. << Puede ser
mircea_popescu: "use cotton solvent and centrifugal separator to remove the rods from 100 dollar bills, then mix into plain nailpaint after having taken down the bill serials"
asciilifeform: lol that'd rock, betcha someone would buy
asciilifeform: iirc there are voodoo shops with 'dollar oil'.
mircea_popescu: omfg oglaf went behind the night curtain ;/
asciilifeform: sslism ? aha
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On that note do you want me to meet you at the airport or how is this working?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have a car reserved, will ping you from hotel after properly slept
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: baww i never even noticed
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: will reactivate travel key some time tomorrow
BingoBoingo: Aite, so roughly what time should I be expecting contact?
asciilifeform: saturday
BingoBoingo: Watch out for the mopeds
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't get why they construct their communications in this nonsensical manner. i'm 20% in still haven't fished an inkling of sense.
ckang: mircea_popescu: yea this isnt the one im thinking of, it was some years back as well
mircea_popescu: is that #superbowl on freenode ?
ckang: so it could be dated info, but a few years back we moved a lot of customers from apache to nginx and saw a fairly substantial drop in TTFB
ckang: its on supernets
mircea_popescu: meh.
ckang: also, dont ever join #5000
mircea_popescu: why is that ?
BingoBoingo: <ckang> so it could be dated info, but a few years back we moved a lot of customers from apache to nginx and saw a fairly substantial drop in TTFB << Eh, darkhttpd ftw
ckang: heh, well, if you want to witness it, try on a spare ircclient its fun ;)
ckang: remember antifuck.pl ?
mircea_popescu: actually, no.
ckang: basically it joins you to 5000 channels
ckang: once you join
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i have a car reserved, will ping you from hotel after properly slept << Also probably ought to warn you. The pedestrians are VERY accustomed to cars stopping for them.
mircea_popescu: ckang what client permits this ?
ckang: all
mircea_popescu: o.O
ckang: unless you are running antifuck
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not driving it personally, lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AH
mircea_popescu: pedestrians are accustomed to cars stopping for them everywhere, wtf.
BingoBoingo: I thought maybe after the pizzaro stuff you'd be taking off to Cabo Polonia to view the lobos marinos and nature
mircea_popescu: here, pedestrians are also very accustomed to WALKING ALONG THE HIGHWAY, and do not see why they should wear anything besides dark colors at night.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno how much sight-seeing i will get in; long list of things to do in the cage
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> pedestrians are accustomed to cars stopping for them everywhere, wtf. << In the sense of myself waiting on the corner to cross a street and... drivers fuck up traffic trying to wave me across when their stopping does nothing for cars heading the other direction
BingoBoingo: How many days do you have down here?
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's even more annoying than the "door holding" behaviours of autistic kids.
ckang: lol
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: blasting off the next thurs. early am.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a guarantee you will get to see some of the city
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo depends if he decides he needs... i dunno, a pair of pliers, and it turns out montevideo dun have any.
asciilifeform: pliers definitely needed, bringing own
phf: "second container is lathe"
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: i wasn't presuming to actually name whatever magical instrument will be missing ; but merely medicine tactics.
BingoBoingo: Well, only one way to find out if the city doesn't have and that way is sightseeing
douchebag: !!up cassidy3
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
cassidy3: heya
mircea_popescu: how goes cassidy3
cassidy3: My bitcoin did not come through yet :C
mircea_popescu: mmm
cassidy3: im doing pretty goood...i didnt get it tho
mircea_popescu: trinque i got a <deedbot> mircea_popescu paid cassidy3 0.02 ; you on it ?
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 technically, it's still just 23 hours, so bear with teh system.
cassidy3: oki!
asciilifeform: and earlier some d00d was complaining re mpex withdrawal -- but for some reason in kako's chan, not here
trinque: I got it; douchebag's endless well of women sprung while I was doing surgery to the airgap box.
cassidy3: oki great!!! around when should I see it go through...?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795667 << eggog 4 is a null ptr deref. i.e. just about never usefully exploitable.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 20:17 douchebag: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/undergroundagency/ezines/master/L4t3r4L_adderaLL.txt
asciilifeform: ergo snore.
asciilifeform: ( the operative text, so that nobody else is stuck sifting through that pile o' rubbish : ' hexchat[30394]: segfault at 7f0ca6862199 ip 00007f0ca67a5993 sp 00007ffd83fab310 error 4 in libpcre.so.3.13.3[7f0ca678b000+70000] ' )
asciilifeform: in related lollies, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-17#511356 , http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-24#894318 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-23#988950☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 16:47 asciilifeform: [5760131.063368] bitcoin-msghand[23369]: segfault at 0 ip 000000000048bd21 sp 00007f55d1759800 error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000]
a111: Logged on 2014-10-24 23:15 asciilifeform: kernel: patch[28805]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000403f35 sp 00007fffbc2fc8e0 error 4 in patch[400000+26000]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-23 04:24 asciilifeform: i have a 0.8 node that does crash quarterly or so. bitcoin-msghand[15569]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000blahblah sp 0000blahblahblah error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000]
trinque: y'know, if every chick that comes through withdraws her coin immediately, she's being paid ~USD~ for tits.
trinque: not that it makes much difference to me.
trinque: cassidy3: couple of hours or so, probably sooner
ben_vulpes: trinque: assuming she goes and sells it
trinque: yes, I am assuming that
cassidy3: what do u suggest doing with it?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point him this way.
ben_vulpes: i prefer the conspiracy theory that douchebag has the fiverr hustle down: 20 bucks to show up and show your tits!
ben_vulpes: and then he pockets the btc
trinque: entirely possible; I'm just telling cassidy3 here to hold onto her coin a while, and buy a house in 2020, or w/e she likes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did; so far no answer.
mircea_popescu: aite.
asciilifeform: trinque: didjaknow, at one time they gave out btc to a buncha starving sad folx, and ~0 of'em kept it. this was, of course, '90s ru
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's my understanding that segfaults reported by the runtime in libraries are not customarily items that actually occuredf there, but merely were caught there incorrect ?
asciilifeform: and not btc but privatization-shares
asciilifeform: but roughly same result
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of the cited examples are 'error 4' i.e. nullptr deref
asciilifeform: ( kernel traps attempt to read from addr 0 , marks separately from any generic out-of-process attempt of r/w )
mircea_popescu: yes, but if i deref twice a pointer provided by alflib, will runtime say "idiot, you deref'd" or will it say "error 4 in alflib" ?
mircea_popescu: because some guy in there was complaining of what it also looked to me like : "you demonstrated program can corrupt its own heap"
trinque: cassidy3: what wallet are you using? all of the withdrawals I have here are for 3 addresses, which leads me to believe you're using some "multisig" webshit as a wallet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma demonstrate; 1s
trinque: douchebag: if you just whip them through here without teaching them a damned thing, what's the point. I can go in the other room and see tits.
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 bitcoin addresses start with 1.
ben_vulpes: trinque: trezors also do that dumb shit.
ben_vulpes: gotta kick it into "legacy" moad.
trinque: ben_vulpes: who has the other key? "them"?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795811 << by this logic usg employees are paid in rentals ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:26 trinque: y'know, if every chick that comes through withdraws her coin immediately, she's being paid ~USD~ for tits.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795816 << consider the case of this guy : http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:27 cassidy3: what do u suggest doing with it?
mircea_popescu: that 10 btc would sell for about 70k or so today, ie five years later.
mircea_popescu: there's almost nothing you can buy for bitcoin that will be worth more than the bitcoin in the medium term.
ben_vulpes: trinque: i think the 3 is 'segwit'
cassidy3: douchebag told me to download an electrum wallet i didnt really know what bitcoin is he sorta explained it to me. r u saying i should hold onto now and sell it when it becomes more valuable?
mircea_popescu: i'm just telling you that you can.
mircea_popescu: douchebag mind finding a webwallet that does proper addresses for the girls ? none of that 3 bs.
douchebag: ive been telling them to use electrum or localbitcoins since a lot of them just ask for paypal
mircea_popescu: i c. well, one of the two works better than the other one.
trinque: there's a wallet service sitting right here, if they're just going to hold them on some website.
cassidy3: how often does the price change?
mircea_popescu: tell them to use localbitcoins then, at least they get to meet people.
ben_vulpes: cassidy3: https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg5ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
ben_vulpes: the dropdown under "time period" will be useful
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ok, here you go: demo.asm :
asciilifeform: global _start
asciilifeform: _start:
asciilifeform: mov rax, [0]
ben_vulpes: cassidy3: if you select "all data" you can give yourself the "what color is your lamborghini" tingles
trinque: ahemahem. deedbot is a wallet!
asciilifeform: and then : yasm -f elf64 -g null demo.asm && ld demo.o -o demo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and then ./demo
ben_vulpes: trinque: but the numbers don't show up on their computer har har har
asciilifeform: and then dmesg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this loads no complex libraries stack.
trinque: ben_vulpes: sure they do, !!balance
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: absolutely not needed , can happen anywhere in process space
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes of course they do ? !!balance , !!ledger etc
asciilifeform: whether in library or not
ben_vulpes: but not in the guiboxen!
ben_vulpes: or in teh webbrowser!
ben_vulpes: y'all are humorless gits
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the question was, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795829☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:30 mircea_popescu: yes, but if i deref twice a pointer provided by alflib, will runtime say "idiot, you deref'd" or will it say "error 4 in alflib" ?
phf: it's a counterparty problem, they don't have trinque in their wots
cassidy3: oooh!oki ill look more at that stuff
mircea_popescu: phf but they have $randomwebsite ?!
ben_vulpes: anyways cassidy3 you can leave your btc with deedbot, trinque operates it and he is a knight of the realm
phf: mircea_popescu: of course, that's usg pseudo-wot that's maintained through all the ways that we laugh about here
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 if you're not desperate for money, keeping it may pay off ; and if you are desperate for money it might be the last thing to sell. think family jewels.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaaa. if dynamically linked -- will say 'in lib...', if static -- in proggy.
mircea_popescu: which is my point!
ben_vulpes: far more trustworthy than "localbitcoins", i mean who are they anyways, and "electrum", same q.
asciilifeform: aa ok i get it
ben_vulpes: cassidy3: just never never never lose the gpg key you registered
trinque: cassidy3: in here your recourse if I steal your money is to tarnish the reputation held on deedbot that to date says I've stolen from no one. out there, what, sue?
trinque: !!up cassidy3
deedbot: cassidy3 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: you know im pretty sure she can self-voice.
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 say !!up to deedbot in a pm, then !!v with the string it sent.
asciilifeform: also come to think of it, on current linux douchebag's thing is not necessarily a null , so whoknows
douchebag: asciilifeform: The guy who created it said he's working on a proof of concept
mircea_popescu: phf indeed right you are, huh.
asciilifeform: douchebag: incidentally the hinted item gives 0 way to reproduce -- it dun say where the lib was loaded in memory
asciilifeform: so to reproduce, would have to know the trigger
asciilifeform: it's equiv of 'winamp playlist' of 0day, rather than 0day
asciilifeform: libpcre is reliable lolcow, however , so i believe it.
asciilifeform: ( and , consider, why the everliving fuck is a re parser need to live in a irctron ?! )
asciilifeform: seealso thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612658 .☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 18:04 asciilifeform: regex belongs in the tool chest next to 'duct tape'.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795806 <-- yeah, it doesn't look like nullptr deref. segfault addr looks somewhat close to ip, so on a first glance it would look like they tried to hijack rip and tripped a non-executable page. but can't tell for sure without a pmap or something similar.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-10 21:21 asciilifeform: ( the operative text, so that nobody else is stuck sifting through that pile o' rubbish : ' hexchat[30394]: segfault at 7f0ca6862199 ip 00007f0ca67a5993 sp 00007ffd83fab310 error 4 in libpcre.so.3.13.3[7f0ca678b000+70000] ' )
spyked: and ftr, linux kernel could report whether the trigger was a read, write or exec op, but for some unknown reason doesn't.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/iguanapost-i-guanapost-igu-an-apost-i-guan-a-post/ << Trilema - Iguanapost. I guanapost ? Igu an apost ? I guan a post!
trinque: douchebag: I guess I scared cassidy3 off, lol. I ran these; tell the next batch to generate proper addresses, or better yet, to leave the coin on deedbot.
trinque: also wasn't there a report on trb dependencies coming?
asciilifeform: spyked: i did realize, slightly later, lol
mircea_popescu refers to his handy hashguide to indentify which one cassidy was
ckang: trinque: i dont think many of these girls have a long term mindset as far as investing goes, mostly college students or do menial low paying work
ckang: i know when i was in school thats how it was anyways
ckang: for me anyways
trinque: man I dated a bartender slut once that kept cash gangster rolls under the bed
trinque: no excuses
ckang: dude ya, bartenders in the right town can do real well
ckang: but those jobs are hot commodities in college towns
ckang: fortunately i finished without debt but i wasnt living the high life either during
ckang: theres also plenty of girls that just go to school to meet a husband, which hey, more power to you i suppose.