gabrielradio: thanks, i'm gonna be lurking in the #b-a irc yeshiva for a while
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PeterL: wow, that MPOE, did somebody drop some bad news about MP today?
mats: it was due for a few weeks
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 19:22:19; ascii_field: iirc only ben_vulpes, mod6, and pete_dushenski had children
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mircea_popescu: <PeterL> wow, that MPOE, did somebody drop some bad news about MP today? << i dunno dude, i woke up and it was like...
punkman: mircea_popescu: some imaginative young writer I presume
mircea_popescu: hint : you can always blow your lighter into the damned thing. it doesn't measure oxygen output
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 03:25:16; mircea_popescu: hint : you can always blow your lighter into the damned thing. it doesn't measure oxygen output
punkman: they might upgrade to buttplug alcohol sensor on driver's seat, that might be tricky
ascii_field: the interlock thing is actually a rather harsh punishment, as i understand - for instance, it sometimes demands a blow... while the car is moving
punkman: and sucker gotta pay $100/month for it
mircea_popescu: while its true that security contraptions never deliver any security, it is nevertheless the case that they do require a rent. because everything that exists des.
mircea_popescu: the one "innovation" that cooled me off the "civilised" world were the fcucking speed bumps.
assbot: Muslims Say They Will Make It Legal to Rape White Christian Women When They Take Over Europe - Freedom Outpost ... (
http://bit.ly/1Z26jSf )
mircea_popescu: let's shake everyone that passes through a street because hey, we can't just shoot whosoever speeds and kills a kid or whatever.
mircea_popescu: punkman that's pretty stupid. the only reason they even have the half a shot they have currently is the rape.
ascii_field: my theory was that the bumps are from nostalgia for crappy orcish roads...
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mircea_popescu: my theory is that the bumps are from aged female nostalgia for their earlier time in a car. which a male owned, like he owned their teenaged ass.
mircea_popescu: "i remember 30 years ago used to get 150 bumps to the yard. y u no make road like used to!"
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trinque: as soon as I hit the TX border, industry!
trinque: things happening everywhere!
trinque: turns out when you let people keep more of their own goddamn money the thing just sorts itself
trinque: Amarillo's a pretty boring town and even the gas station was spotless, workers there were goddamn on point and asking me what I needed, sir
trinque: obviously not the only factor
ascii_field: betcha the filling station in anchorage is sterile
trinque: point being *the workers there* cared about the stupid gas station
ascii_field: usg takes less? then moar for the landlord to harvest
mircea_popescu: alaska is far away and everything has to be shipped at great expense.
trinque: I'm in a $50/day hotel room with king sized bed, indoor pool, it's lovely
ascii_field: trinque: my point was that: tanstaafl (tm) (r)
trinque: this state has a gigantic port
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha! sorta like buenos aires
trinque: industy throughout, agriculture, so on
punkman: too much industry and you get beijing air
trinque: and I maintain that there's something far better about these people than any other state in the US, such that it stands a hair of a chance to survive it
trinque: if you don't work here you're fucking nobody
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <trinque> and I maintain that there's something far better about these people than any other state in the US, such that it stands a hair of a chance to survive it << I'm telling you Missouri is even more Texan than Texas
trinque: missouri's not nearly as wealthy
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 04:03:36; trinque: if you don't work here you're fucking nobody
BingoBoingo: Missouri has two rivers and the Ohio river terminus. Vast amounts of bulk goods constantly moving
trinque: ascii_field: vs portland for on!
BingoBoingo: But I'm discussing the people. Far more texan than Texans are
trinque: even the software devs sit around laughing about how lazy they are
trinque: and "oh my work is such shit"
trinque: BingoBoingo: that could be
trinque: the "my work is such shit" offends me more
trinque: you will find people here that give a shit about their name
ascii_field: why would someone admit to 'my work is shit' ?
punkman: sometimes you know you suck?
punkman: or are getting paid to work on horrible things
trinque: the portland software scene is mostly about stapling open source together
trinque: along with that goes this "LOL everything is shit" attitude
trinque: and the implication that "if this doesn't work it is not my fault"
trinque: I saw a great deal of that
ascii_field: they can always come and fillet panda kittens at the belching workschwitzes here.
trinque: we're not churning out apps and lattes down here
ascii_field: also 'everything is shit' is a sane and correct attitude for anyone involved in kompyooting.
trinque: its still your fault if it doesn't work even if it's made of gum and twigs
ascii_field: in the sense where everyone who touches such a thing shares the sin - yes.
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mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> why would someone admit to 'my work is shit' ? << it's an hipster thing. irony.
mircea_popescu: has nothing to do with brain power. it's a matter of language. youth culture, it's just its own kind of arbitrary nonsense.
ascii_field does not deal with teenz in any capacity whatsoever. they may as well be penguins or kangaroos.
trinque: "everything is bad, hahaha"
mircea_popescu: well then how are you going to overturn the empire or how did that quote go.
ascii_field: if i needed arbitrary and tedious nonsense for anything, i'd visit a church
mircea_popescu: there is that. pretty much my objection to reddit is "all the stupid i stomp out on a daily basis minus the toe suckling and etc"
mircea_popescu: "here's this new gasoline, it has no caloric power" "what does it have then ?" "strong odor, slightly carcinogenic, stains..."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: see ilkka kokkarinen's piece re: glass
mircea_popescu: does anyone seriously propose the "google is useful" myth anymore even ?
☟︎ ascii_field: (worst possible material! imagine if it were not translucent - who would use it?)
mircea_popescu: i have some obsidian i took out of a guatemalan pavement wiht my own hands.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty cool. not really translucent. a little around the edges.
ascii_field: grep his book (on my www warez dir, in the logz)
mircea_popescu: which reminds me of the aids joke. dja know the aids joke ?
ascii_field: modern man isn't, afaik, very handy with it
mircea_popescu: romanian peasant asks other romanian peasant : yo, gheo, you got any aids yo ?
mircea_popescu: gheo thinks... if i say no, he's gonna think im poor. if i say yes he's gonna ask for some.
ascii_field wonders if aids jokes all began life as syphilis joke
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mircea_popescu: "On October 8th, 2013, just a few days shy of one year since CSD officially launched, the game landed on Steam. And in just one day, I had made nearly $15,000 in gross sales, which was almost as much as I made in the entire last year on PC/Mac/Linux for CSD. In two days, I surpassed it. In one week, I had made over $50,000 in gross revenue… more than I did in the last three years as a game maker and barista. My fami
mircea_popescu: ly couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe it. Finally, I felt redeemed. This was a path that was more than a dozen years in the making, but I had finally made it."
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Jul 26 03:37:30 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 42 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, qntra has received similar comments, figured it for spam and binned
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assbot: Hawkei: Kick the tyres on the Australian Army's latest armoured vehicle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... (
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pete_dushenski: yes, gizmodo property, should be burned, but from what i know of eulora, it seems to tick the 5 boxes
pete_dushenski: also, just started poking juuso hietalahti. will provide updates.
pete_dushenski: and i've been digging for names or connections on that wem chick but nothing's turned up. though it's entirely possible that she was visiting from out of town. the mall is a tourist trap extraordinaire.
mircea_popescu: from experience, it's cheaper to create this stuff than to catalogue it.
mircea_popescu: " 50 million downloads and $10 million later" << eulora only made ~2k or so yet.
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 14:49:43; ascii_field: perhaps it was a case of 'soviet elephants are the biggest elephants'
trinque: got pretty far on the buy/sell board this eve but it'll be a couple more days. colorado's attempt at murder slowed down my travels
pete_dushenski: trinque it's good practise for parenthood. similar to sleep deprivation.
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 17:08:09; mircea_popescu: are we betting wherer agent scully lost her freenode nick pw ?
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 17:49:14; mircea_popescu: check out bizarro tx rewriting. i issued fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 which worked as expected, but apparently there's a 5269a0e862876040db21706a7849ffd1b7d63e72d6dd61b1d2431a51698bb007 restatement of it
☟︎ mircea_popescu: turns out someone was "stress testing" by echoing malleated txn.
mircea_popescu: it's funny what impotence does to people. they'd like to be part of bitcoin, EXCEPT not on bitcoin terms. they wanna do it on their own terms. originally they hoped that derping on social media might do it,
mircea_popescu: but after the massacre they got for their hopes this year, everything's tumbleweed city. r/bitcoin like r/buttcoin, the ever more numerous forums etc.
mircea_popescu: so now they're "stress testing" aka if you won't care about my screaming im going to wet the bet.
pete_dushenski: "A woman goes to the gynecologist for an exam. She puts her feet into the stirrups and the doctor begins his exam. After a moment, he says, "You have an unusually deep vagina." The woman replies, "You don't have to say it twice." The doctor says, "I didn't."
mircea_popescu: the part where the bed was made to piss you right in the forehead right back hasn't yet sunk in
pete_dushenski: aha. the ol' plastic cover under the sheets trick. (with an electric pump and a hose feeding back overhead)
mircea_popescu: anyway, he's to that day when sec/cftc/etc figure out that if they wanna play, they gotta behere, and play by the rules. and when academitards figure out that if they wanna play, they... gotta be here. and play by the rules. and when random tard etc.
mircea_popescu: might be a while, but hey, until then, more psycho material to examine will be produced.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at that.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: nah, i don't think we're anywhere near the "please oh pretty please sell to me" phase yet. still much closer to "why would i need something other than the dollar?"
pete_dushenski: and this, the fiat millionaires, not thousandaires on reddit
mircea_popescu: "Penny’s hatred of losing is legendary in the Hall household. Every time there was a possibility of her losing a game, she’d close the app and toss the phone away. Every time a game threatened to kill her she would quit. Immediately."
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 23:02:38; mircea_popescu: omfg seth godin still exists.
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/icn.seths.head.png now a visibly old man, trying to stick to the orange background in a green shirt. practically speaking a parody of itself (not that it didn't start off as a parody - but by now it's not even intentional anymore).
mircea_popescu: "This feeds directly into Hall’s development process. Pac-Man 256 – a new version of Pac-Man that, if you’re good enough, literally never ends. Pac-Man as an endless runner. Or Crossy Road, an endless version of Frogger. In both games you are never punished for dying. Often you are rewarded.
mircea_popescu: In fact death isn’t mentioned at all. Neither is failure. Death in the traditional video game sense is absent."
mircea_popescu: "his shit makes sense, in its own paradigm" "sure. so does anything. his paradigm is pretty stupid" "can you formally prove this ?" "no. because..."
mircea_popescu: that's the guy's entire shtick. if your paradigm is stupid enough to not allow useful statements to be made, its inconsistency can not be proven. !godel approach to linguistic production.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 00:34:46; gabrielradio: thanks, i'm gonna be lurking in the #b-a irc yeshiva for a while
mircea_popescu: "but it enhanced my creativity" "so get a blowjob, eat a cookie, whatever".
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu godin is more 'inspirer' than practical or pragmatic anything. he's the archetype of the popular 'business' genre
pete_dushenski: oh plently of cookies are eaten. probably not enough blowies and walks though
pete_dushenski: solo walks. sans headphones, sans idiots, sans smartphone.
mircea_popescu: “I used to play a lot of complicated games like Dungeon Keeper " oh come the fuck on. dungeon keeper's main appeal was that is simplicity incarnated.
mircea_popescu: the intellectual decay, over two short generations, is fucking awesome.
pete_dushenski: and as much as anything, derps wanna ~buy~ inspiration. it might as well come in a tin with a pull-off top.
pete_dushenski: and if other derps see you reading the label of your inspiration tin at the cool kids cafe, then maybe they'll instagram you and your business will win all kinds of phree exposure !
mircea_popescu: the mutatis mutandis equivalent of this nonsense has existed for a longtime. doesn't even need that much mutation.
trinque: going to say the second one needs more butts.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 01:59:29; mats: it was due for a few weeks
trinque: mircea_popescu: feels like home. perhaps someday there'll be a place outside the states I like more, but for now, this'll do
trinque: I don't think I've yet articulated precisely what it is that I find redeemable here, as there is plenty to criticize.
trinque: it is probably as simple as that it's more common here for people to rank and judge each other
cazalla: trinque, ya lived there before or is this your first day?
trinque: moved to portland the first time in 08, second time in 2012
trinque: see it's not the rank/judge thing either; everyone that's human does that
trinque: I will think on this further as I settle in
mircea_popescu: moved for babes returned for food moved for babes returned for food ?
trinque: and derpy projects like "if we just dumb down a database an idiot will blossom"
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mircea_popescu: never move for babes. the whole concept of babedom is they gotta move.
trinque: first time was a journey with a babe, second time I moved one up while working on that db thing
trinque: been shedding the notion that people can be improved without force for a while
trinque checks his tree rings, thinks he's about done
mircea_popescu: "We ended up operating for five months without money or payments to the team here. It was a difficult period, where some of us were awkwardly standing in front of cashiers having our credit cards declined, drawing from any possible savings, and borrowing money from our friends and family. But we made it to the other side!"
punkman: what is it like a 10-person team for an indie game?
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts indie efforts can manage more than ~4, really, which is essentially a double date
punkman: oh and they can't live on 70k a year?
mircea_popescu: (very often these numbers are fudged, it's not x people, it's two famblies. sort of like swining, except they don;t fuck.)
mircea_popescu: punkman the article is very carefully engineered to bilk, which is why i linked it.
mircea_popescu: o btw, do you have a reddit acct that's aged enough to make subreddits ?
☟︎ cazalla: shame you didn't ask last night :\ just deleted one this morning after it was banned from a bunch of subreddits
cazalla: you can't create a subreddit without an aged account?
cazalla: i have another week old one but cannot remember pwd
mircea_popescu: jurov dja happen to have any idea how to package linux code for steam ?
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assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 04:25:32; mircea_popescu: does anyone seriously propose the "google is useful" myth anymore even ?
mircea_popescu: "this pressed shit gun doesn't work" "is there an alternative ?"
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i'm not the sort of hayseed that needs to search the web. but i assume there isn't, because it's a hard problem. there not being, however, does nothing for google, imo.
PeterL: so on the occasion when you do want to search web, what do you use?
mircea_popescu: if it's some pop cult reference i either ask someone in the know or else ud/tvtropes. if it's some actual thing i usually know enough to know what to read.
mircea_popescu: but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: do you now go through life with the notion in your head that chicken broth is a fuel oil ?
mircea_popescu: and if you don't believe it anyway, then why bother with the box ?
mircea_popescu: if i want to find out what X said i don't go to ask google, i go ask x. etc.
PeterL: I find google useful as a starting point for finding things on the web
PeterL: you don't get information from google, you just use google to get to the places with the info
mircea_popescu: if it's a complex enough graph it really doesn't matter where you start.
mircea_popescu: how do you know the places google takes you to have any info ?
PeterL: the places it takes you to are to be evaluated separately from google
PeterL: Usually I find what I search for in the first page of google
PeterL: okay, today I wanted to refresh my memory on writing a letter of resignation. I type in the box "how to write a letter of resignation", and 3 of the first four links had nice examples
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've used style templates in the past twenty years. conceivably this may be a difference of style.
mircea_popescu: i simply do not care what those examples may be, i expect to be the example for them.
mircea_popescu: maybe in the end the story reduces to "i'm just uncurious enough"
PeterL: another example, I wanted to try to make homemade bagels, I type in the box "bagel recipe", and it gives me several sites with recipes to try. Clearly, these are not all of the same quality, but I only have to look through a couple to find one wotrh trying
PeterL: think from the other perspective, you say you are the example for things, how do people find your example to copy? Something like google can link them to you
mircea_popescu: but see, the only reason i could conceivably be interested in is because a woman made them and i liked. then i ask her, such as my mom, or the chick in the cofee shop, or whoever. i don't think i ever wanted to make a random item.
mircea_popescu: ah, sure. it can. it can also send them to paycoin, just as well.
PeterL: You ask at a restraunt for a recipe of their dish and they give you something?
mircea_popescu: not useful is like untrustworthy. doesn't mean "absolutely and in all cases zero use". it just means unreliable enough to be 0.
mircea_popescu: (i rarely ask "gimme the recipe", because i'm actually sa pretty good cook. usually i ask "is this white sauce or what did you do ?!"
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between these two classes of questions, you know, like in tech support.
PeterL: another example, I am watching a movie and I want to know who the actor is. I google "cast of movie whatever", most likely it links to IMDB, I could have gone straight to IMBD, but it is easier to just start all searches from one place rather than trying to start at each individual site depending on the search
mircea_popescu: tho i have homebrew talent, you know those people who know ALL THE ACTORS and ALL THE SONGS etc ?
mircea_popescu: anwyay, google as bookmark organizer, which is what you're describing, is about as useful as that goes, sure. could just as well use any other
PeterL: search google, click on what you want is two steps; go to site, search, maybe their search function works the way you expect is at least three steps
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 04:25:17; mircea_popescu: ;;google ilkka kokkarinen's piece re: glass
mircea_popescu: (and btw, i found it by typing se in myaddress bar which took me to search.bitcoin-assets.com/ rather than typing anything into google. because THIS always works and is way faster)
mircea_popescu: in short, google may perhaps maintain the illusion of utility for as long as the needs are superficial and stay that way.but if you're mostly looking for specific stuff and tend to go beyond the surface of things, it doesn't actually do anything whatever.
mircea_popescu: and right now, im doing (atypically) a foray into discussions of a topic im not particularly familiar with (indie game devel). i read upwards of fifty pages, i did not use google at any point throughout. because, here's the snatch : you try googling something to get you these results.
mircea_popescu: even when i'm playing way out of field, google still fails.
mircea_popescu: and that said, i am probably in the top 1% when it comes to understanding the higher level issues involved, which means i canhammer together a search string like few others. so google would probably be lot more useful to me, were it to be useful at all, than to the general population.
PeterL: but the general population is ignorant and does not care to alleviate their ignorance, so google works for them. If they can't find it on google, it doesn't exist
mircea_popescu: this is all nice and good, but it still does not make it useful.
mircea_popescu: the general population may be happy to pop sugar pills, but that doesn't make them medicine, right ?
diana_coman: then again, I am NOT finding google useful to find information in general
diana_coman: IF I have no choice but to start that way, I would afterwards check the source basically
PeterL: What would a useful search engine entail, or do you see that as even possible?
diana_coman: well, I think it might head that way, in the sense that it happened more than once that I searched for things with precise and specific keywords I knew were in there
mircea_popescu: the original idea was superb, the pr thing. it's a great way to score a graph.
diana_coman: and when I got there I had been right, the key words were exactly as given etc
mircea_popescu: but then once people are aware of the scoring, you're lost and it's irredemable.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the google problem is in any way different from the colored coins/ripple/ethereum problem, or generally "automated trust" issue.
mircea_popescu: so yes in this sense, google is here to supersede "smart contracts" or vice-versa, whatever. either way really, nonsense's nonsense.
diana_coman: it's still kind of ok for specific stuff, more like bookmarking kind of thing - I know what I'm searching for and roughly where it is, I just need the quick path to it (as in search on dl.acm for articles of X on topic Y or in journal Z)
diana_coman: assuming the guy doesn't have his own page updated for some reason
mircea_popescu: and then five years later you discover it hid for no reason one article out of 6
diana_coman: well, if the guy was an idiot and did not update his page, what can one do
diana_coman: the thing is that's usually just the start of something anyway
diana_coman: so it doesn't really matter if it hid 1 of 6 - if it is any good, it will be referenced anyway
diana_coman: the rest is discovered through connections anyway
diana_coman: whether it's that thread or the other one starts with, doesn't make a huge diff
mircea_popescu: the point of convenience, of course, and the humane way to do this, is where you know the people who'd have written articles on that topicanyway, so you put some bagels in the oven, ring them up, invite them over, and talk the matter through over wine.
diana_coman: well yes, but uhm, not really sure they'd come all the way from australia, nz and whatever else, every time
mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things.
☟︎ PeterL: mircea_popescu has alot more pull to abscond interesting people than we do
diana_coman: fwiw I saw first-hand the horrible things google/search-reliance can do for lazy people too - there were some very sad (or laughable if so inclined) articles on Bitcoin in ACM magazine
diana_coman: basically a uni professor who had no idea of the topic but just heard he had to say something on it
PeterL: "I read it on the internet, it must be true!"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that's the other thing. the odds of me giving two pre-compressed, freeze dried rat shits on the "article" of some random derp i dunno... hm.
diana_coman: no, he is a researcher so he knows about sources etc
diana_coman: just that he has the wrong ideas as to what is reliable source for btc
diana_coman: it turns out like that, yes, though he'd be surprised to find that out
diana_coman: from his point of view he cited only reputable stuff
mircea_popescu: anyway. the original point ofthings likethe mit ai lab, or the xerox parc, or etc, was that people could grab each other by the tie in the hallway
diana_coman: well you can grab people by their irc nick I suppose, not really by the tie at any moment
mircea_popescu: i actually have great hope for the future ofthis system yes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, my takeaway from teh reading is that s.mg should probably at least try and support steam. so if there's someone who actually has experience with this, talk to me.
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assbot: luckdragon69 comments on Gavin Andresen: Bitcoin Core Won’t Make the Consensus Rules in the Future ... (
http://bit.ly/1JOx417 )
btcdrak: (not the title, but the comment I linked to lol)
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:18:42; mircea_popescu: but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ?
mircea_popescu: works fine for lines of code. i guess if i programmed more.
mircea_popescu: i live in the dirigible world past the horizon, my shit dun crash.
mircea_popescu: (i really use very little software, and most of it either 30 years old or made by people i know)
ascii_field: but unlike mircea_popescu i sometimes have to vivisect it.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 06:05:19; mircea_popescu: anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at that.
ascii_field: whereas the fiat-megamoneybag folks also want 3) without nudging market rate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00042 = 3.612 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no i meant, "sell it" as in, "convince me",.
assbot: Pictorial Essay: 18 Things I Did That My Grand-kids Can’t Do Without Someone Getting Arrested « The Burning Platform ... (
http://bit.ly/1Z3PE0A )
mircea_popescu: "With these ca. 100.000 dls we made a whooping $162 in total. In other words form 100.000 people playing or at least downloading the game 127 in App Purchases were tracked by Apple, which means that 0.13% of our user base as paid something inside the App. Don’t get us wrong: We are thankful for those purchases and we hope that you enjoy our game, but to build a sustainable business this won’t get us very far as an
mircea_popescu: "I think it was great to get the game into the hands of a lot of people for free, even if it lost money for the studio.
mircea_popescu: Moving onto your next app, you should have a decent fan base who will be more willing paying up front for your game."
mircea_popescu: who the fuckgives a shit, obscure studio making obscure app on that old tablet thing you meanwhile lost.
ascii_field: 'I can actually remember when Looney Toons was yanked in favor of more PC Barney the dinosaur bullshit. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable.'
mircea_popescu: "It's an interesting piece of info and it resonates a lot with the issues and choices I and to make with my game early this year. I can see how those numbers could be discouraging but I kind of agree with Sven, they are not that bad."
ascii_field: (well perhaps not ~any~ - but certainly it is more of a thing than the 'multi-coloured pill' business in gringolandia)
mircea_popescu: 2009, back when apple istore was worth less than a bar.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 06:38:13; mircea_popescu: o btw, do you have a reddit acct that's aged enough to make subreddits ?
mircea_popescu: and strangly there wasn't a reddit icrapple dedicated to mocking the funbux.
ben_vulpes: search'll need redoing on top of the wot as well.
mircea_popescu: Do not mention how their use was pioneered by the Israeli Air Force in 1948, and how they were used by the US Air Force in Vietnam in Operation Inferno in 1968. Keep repeating, “barrel bombs, barrel bombs” and stating with a straight face that the Syrian regime is using them “against its own people.” Against its own people. Against its own people. Against its own people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00041805 = 6.7724 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37007 @ 0.00041783 = 15.4626 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041763 = 3.5916 BTC [-]
assbot: Sources say tension with Dolphins had been mounting for weeks in practice | National Football Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1Mbsxrn )
gabrielradio: "In Betfred’s own words the ACCAttacka has ‘reinvigorated the weekend football acca selection process with style & substance in equal measure.’ [...] ACCAttacka innovation means you can simply log into your Betfred mobile account, select a desired bet stake, outline the amount of money you would like to win and then sit back and let the Betfred software build you a potential winning accumulator"
danielpbarron: bitbet is the exact opposite of that model, if I'm reading it correctly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27092 @ 0.00042012 = 11.3819 BTC [+] {2}
gabrielradio: mircea_popescu not really. thinking about it, it's kinda the same thing as sdice. choose odds, send btc, roll the dice. only with a much larger -ev
BingoBoingo: The problem when dealing with Brain Dead morons though is it requires an entire infrastructure to minimize the cost of interactions with them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.00041706 = 19.4976 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: » #PissForEquality: Feminists Fall For 4Chan Troll Campaign by Peeing Themselves Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... (
http://bit.ly/1Pfy9WW )
ascii_field: the real question is why it had to be done in the bathroom
ascii_field: '3rd wave feminism has become synonymous with outlandish preoccupations like manspreading, trigger warnings, safe spaces, slut walks and free bleeding, while genuine threats to women’s rights – particularly in Islamic countries – continue to be ignored.' << ahahahha
mircea_popescu: tbh slut walks not bad idea. one spot where i and teh derpeminists see eye to eye
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54974 @ 0.00041517 = 22.8236 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for late teens/early 20s women that have trouble maturing. match made in heaven with jaded blue collar / low prof late 40s males.
mircea_popescu: they get a daddy-little relationship, she wears diapers, he does handiwork, it's perhaps the most functional couple of the western world.
ascii_field: linked article described the diapers being purely a convenience/laziness thing - e.g., in casino, office workers avoiding toilet break
ascii_field: (fetishist diapers have been around for eons, yes)
ascii_field: 'Anderson refused to cooperate with prosecutors unless the CIA was present. Anderson wanted to be released from jail, Rosenblum said in court, and “he would literally lead (Davis) to warship-sized cargo of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars; he could lead Mr. Davis to connections in the Middle East involving pharaohs and kings.”' << win
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, eulora IS technically "pay what you want".
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yes! when i finally get home. a few hours from now.
cazalla: reduce dust blowing about?
ascii_field: ' I did not want to work professionally with people who were allowed to get away with subtle sexist or homophobic jokes. I feel powerless in a community that had a “Code of Conflict” without a specific list of behaviors to avoid and a community with no teeth to enforce it."
ascii_field: 'I have the right to replace any comment I feel like with “fart fart fart fart”. ' << win
ascii_field: someone should teach this woman about the piss-pants-for-justice campaign.
ascii_field: 'Open Source Technology Center, Intel Corporation' << a little like 'adolf eichmann center for judaism'
ben_vulpes: person in question made an appearance at $rokkitclub as well on the same topic.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44358 @ 0.00042089 = 18.6698 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: $rokkitclub collectively blinked in confusion and carried on with tricks
ben_vulpes: same club is gently discouraged from letting foreign students near the code and plans
ben_vulpes: this leads to a stush that quickly dies down every 3-5 years
pete_dushenski: ascii_field a little like 'adolf eichmann center for judaism' << heh.
pete_dushenski: or the 'king tut's centre for kids who can't read good'
pete_dushenski: "The Fast Lane Car tried to sketch some answers by going to a shop in Denver, Colorado to run a 2011 Jetta TDI with a six-speed DSG transmission on an all-wheel-drive dyno. The thinking was that if you ran all four wheels the car would think it was on the road, whereas if you ran only two the car might think it's being tested. We'll get straight to the numbers: the stock sedan is quoted at 140 horsepower and 236
pete_dushenski: pound-feet of torque. When run with all four wheels turning it produced an uncorrected 114 hp and 214 lb-ft at the wheels. When run with just two wheels in motion the Jetta got 113 hp and 188 lb-ft at the wheels. Reading the graph, we're told that power differences between the two runs were as much as 15 hp and 32 lb-ft."
BingoBoingo: "Rascal Scooter Center for Nutrition Studies"
pete_dushenski: 'oh, we told the regulators that you were circumcized and they found out that you actually weren't. please visit your nearest stealership so we can right this terrible wrong.'
ascii_field: at this point even microshit's open sourceism record beats intel's.
ascii_field: (yes! laugh if you will, but 'visual studio' for linux! and c# !)
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:56:10; *: mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things.
kakobrekla: by making the drivers search for parking longer?
pete_dushenski just unwrapped, fresh off the boat from new delhi, his copy of 'the art of not being governed'
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the funny thing about infowars publishing 4chan trolls is that infowars published 4chan trolls it thought to be real (katrina loot crew)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4928 @ 0.00041515 = 2.0459 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112516 @ 0.00041203 = 46.36 BTC [-] {4}
pete_dushenski: "American Apparel Inc, known as much for its sexually charged advertising and controversial founder as for its fashion offerings, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Monday" << this is what 'made in american sweatshops' buys you. $20.5 mn of 'value' and $300 mn in debt.
pete_dushenski: so much for american industry competing with asian industry.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I though the loot crew actually happened, even though the hashtag was a troll
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 241.61, Best ask: 241.88, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 241.6, 24 hour volume: 11217.83812713, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 15:38:06; mircea_popescu: dividing the mkt cap by the mkt volume roughly yields the "empty hopes" factor.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i think it did, but the pictures were reused for a fake loot crew during some other event to troll alex jones into reporting it as fact
adlai notes that since volume's dimension is assets/time, "hope" is measured in... time
adlai: pete_dushenski: no, but some asset holders might've had hopes which were unrealizable over the required timeframe
adlai: imagine if Mr 80ksat had been able to spread out his hope of mpoenership over a couple months longer. market would look totally different today.
assbot: 7 results for 'drama queen"' - #bitcoin-assets search
adlai: !rated pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: if so, there go all my crank theories, right out the window !
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "There are only two hard problems in distributed systems: 2. Exactly-once delivery 1. Guaranteed order of messages 2. Exactly-once delivery -- Mathias Verraes"
☟︎☟︎ adlai: somebody get mathias a pogo
pete_dushenski: and speaking of wowz and suches and muches and scamcoins, i just checked the chart for dogecoin and it's really surprisingly stable. also noted that $50-100k of the crap trades hands on a daily basis. then again, could be some dogederps trading with himself all day.
☟︎ adlai: yes, i'm not trusting that ~23% from cryptsy, it's essentially holding funds hostage by blowing up the transfer fees
adlai: nfc about this 'btc38'
pete_dushenski: well, we have some folks dropping by shortly so ima make some waves !
BingoBoingo: Oh ivermectin and artemisinin won the nobel prize for medicine this year
ben_vulpes: my money's on btcalpha sucking in ratings from #b-a feed
ben_vulpes: which raises a problem i spotted a while back and didn't raise, which is that ratings are not independently verifiable.
ben_vulpes: worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one.
ben_vulpes: imho (and i'm always wrong, it's cool bru) it should be possible to reconstruct the current state of the wot from a log of !rate's and !v's
☟︎☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00041071 = 18.8927 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47630 @ 0.00041071 = 19.5621 BTC [-]