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mp_en_viaje: pretty much same chassis, same battery/sd card assemblage, altogether very similar object
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Getting the sd will require re-opening the conversation with the Latecho folks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: copy the sd also ( they oughta be standard, but iirc diana_coman may have modded the kernel, and i'd like it carried over guaranteed )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and everyone else: All disks are out of the rack with the exception of the RockChip kernel SD cards. Maybe a couple of unused RK spare are hiding in the bilge box. A variety of miscellaneous was recovered as well including the KVM, a couple handfuls of USD ttyls, the unsealed FUCKGOATs that were plugged into RockChips, and for sentimental value the Qntra/DNS server I flew into the country with because it's tiny ass fit in
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rk's i suggest to be offered to their current inhabitants for cost of postage. ( and if anyone would rather have the disk stick cremated, oughta indicate, and it then added to the pyre ) . the rk's per se have no writable storage aside from the sd & stick .
asciilifeform: no storages on pcb (is major reason why i picked it) , needs sd to boot from and then usb3 stick to mount root
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 15:34 asciilifeform: ( and, lulzily, classical sd card ~does not support write protect~, it has the same usg.nonsensical 'software read writeprotect tab' as old floppies )
asciilifeform: here, have a line from a working box : [ 3.129745] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
asciilifeform: let's reimage its sd also, ping me when it's time.
asciilifeform: i picked rk orig. not even because of price, but specifically cuz it contains, on the pcb itself, nuffin (known to be) writeable, all of state is loaded from sd and afterwards usb. so i dun expect to be able to tell much from autopsy of the unit, when i get it here
asciilifeform: i.e. it gets through 1) mask rom 2) load of kernel from sd
asciilifeform: it lives on sd
asciilifeform: ( i was initially testing rk pilot plant to run off sd, discarded on acct of meh speed vs usb3 )
asciilifeform: e.g. 200GB samsung sd is ~fiddybux
asciilifeform: sd can be had in half TB and moar
mircea_popescu: meh. sd small enough as it is.
asciilifeform: you have a box, that presents as e.g. usb drive on 'red' end, and eats a e.g. sd card on 'black' end, with a thing between the two that serpents and unserpents (how to key it, is a separate conversation, but it can be keyed sanely so long as it is done not from pc end )
asciilifeform: Mocky: it's an old idea of asciilifeform's -- otptron gets 2 sd slots. fill switch triggers fill-up of both with identical otp. then you fly to bananistan with ~one~ and trade with the other fella for his. then you both have identical xor of pad-a and pad-b, in the respective slots.
Mocky: sd card slot has merit. for iron otptron even two slots is not going overboard imo if it doesn't overcomplicate the design, since generally will need two copies and may prefer not to plug into general purpose comp
asciilifeform: another pheature i've considered, is to give the thing a sd card slot, so it could fill it straight for otp use. but this is perhaps a bridge too far.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 21:17 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , also give signal re whether you want the newer iptables-enabled kernel to go on your boot sd , when we take the boxen down ( iirc we already did mod6's )
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 , lobbes , also give signal re whether you want the newer iptables-enabled kernel to go on your boot sd , when we take the boxen down ( iirc we already did mod6's ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: re sd card -- mircea_popescu may find it interesting that asciilifeform's initial (week before flight) rk test bed used a premium 'camera' 128G sd to boot ~and~ run from. but found that it is intolerably slow, the things have pretty sad randomaccess performance
asciilifeform: ( kernel lives on sd card, mounted as /boot )
asciilifeform: all i really need from the bootrom is to do what uboot on pogo did, i.e. see the disks ( internal ssd, usb, sd ) , read some classic partitions ( e.g. ext3 ), load kernels ( in human, not google, format ) and present pogo-style uboot cmdline for these.
mats: https://jamesone111.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/exploring-the-transcend-wifi-sd-card
asciilifeform: this will give a setup where a box separated from its sd, is 'unsecret', and can be expected to be identical to other cured units.
asciilifeform: imho the ideal setup for this box (which has ~4~ nonvolatile roms -- the 3 above, and the 16GB ssd soldered onto mobo) is to put uboot in the main fw, and cuntoo ~installer~ on the 16GB ssd, which will boot if blank sd card is inserted, and install cuntoo on the latter; and subsequently boot off sd. this way the box will not slowly wear out the nonreplaceable internal ssd.
asciilifeform: ( don't put logger in the box per se, will miss good % of the flips, as e.g. sd card eats ridiculous current , which the harvester may or may not at a given time be able to supply )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:42 mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals
phf: asciilifeform: in "clean gentoo for rockchip" is there particular reason why boot sd card's gpt partition has a 8320 sector break between l1 and l2?
asciilifeform: also the 16GB onboard ssd is rather tight, for serious work i'd mount /home on a sd card.
mod6: does '6 x 8GB uSD' mean, 6 x 8GB micro SD cards ?
asciilifeform: ( for bonus slowness, this one's running off a sd card.. )
asciilifeform: i booted a heathen linux on the thing from the sd card, via the heathen ('press ctrl-d in 10 sec on boot or i format yer disk') nonsense, it ran.
mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals ☟︎
mod6: then the command would be like: ./v.pl f pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals
asciilifeform: nope, sd card is apparently monocrystalline
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasn't even thinking of asking for true antifuse sd card , considering that antifuse roms have been unavailable since early 1990s ( see prev thread re subj )
asciilifeform: ( and, lulzily, classical sd card ~does not support write protect~, it has the same usg.nonsensical 'software read writeprotect tab' as old floppies ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814130 << still waiting for quotes in qty 100, but this is approx correct. however a working rockchiptron consists not only of the board, but of heat sink ( 10 usd , and single-source, it gotta have the correct pegs ) , the sd card ( in principle cheapest worx, it ~never gets written to, i am looking into chinese crate ) , ssd ( imho it is pointless to use anything but samsung, and it's ~40 usd in w ☝︎
mircea_popescu: imagine, if you will, wehrmacht-sd being "concerned" about azerbaijani spies.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812496 << hey, that'sd been the official republican worldview since 4evar. ☝︎
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr
asciilifeform: esh of both sd and usb drives.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: currently re-customering a rockchip requires pulling the usbstick and sd and reimaging
asciilifeform: there's a u-sd socket tho.
ckang: hopefully the portland bums are nicer than the SD bums and wont steal his stuff
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 05:12 ckang: last i heard, his sister told him to take meds or leave, he left to SD, his van got tickets and was impounded leaving him homeless
ckang: last i heard, his sister told him to take meds or leave, he left to SD, his van got tickets and was impounded leaving him homeless ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 01:44 asciilifeform: in other noose, ~143MB/s avg. reads , ~33MB/s writes, on samsung usb3 stick ( vs ~20 / 15 on sd prior )
asciilifeform: btw i oughta say a word re how rockchiptron reproduces. i wrote a bit of script, ./breed_boot.sh /dev/sd_whatever_cardreader_with_card_in_it -- produces copy of the boot card ; ./breed_root.sh /dev/large_enuff_disk copies the root partition contents onto a new part on said disk
asciilifeform: in other noose, ~143MB/s avg. reads , ~33MB/s writes, on samsung usb3 stick ( vs ~20 / 15 on sd prior ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( boots from sd, mounts root on usb3 )
asciilifeform: at any rate, rockchip pilot-plant boxen will boot from sd and mount usb3 stick for root partition.
asciilifeform: ave1: nah , no led. log noise. and documented, apparently, issue , with some brands of sd, going back years
a111: Logged on 2018-04-04 19:52 asciilifeform: meanwhile on the chinesium front, asciilifeform was pretty close to throwing out the 'rockchip' this morn., when saw that every few hrs it read-retries the sd flash. but apparently harmless eggog: comes from certain sad levelling firmwares , they cannot keep up with the host
asciilifeform: meanwhile on the chinesium front, asciilifeform was pretty close to throwing out the 'rockchip' this morn., when saw that every few hrs it read-retries the sd flash. but apparently harmless eggog: comes from certain sad levelling firmwares , they cannot keep up with the host ☟︎
asciilifeform: then will simply clone the gentoo for each new user ( or he can transmit a SD image , signed , and BingoBoingo will pump it in, plug in a board, and up an' running )
mircea_popescu: this is neat. ok, chuck the largest sd you can find in there an' consider it sold.
asciilifeform: hdd is a highspeed SD card , and can be of any size ; there is also a usb3 jack, 480MB/s; and a 1G/s nic.
asciilifeform: phf: re suspend-to-ram -- 1 of the things i still dunget, is why there isn't simply a compartment for sd card in the back of the box ( any of'em, old or new ). let's say after lid closed for 10min, it'd write the ram to the sd. if battery alive -- does nothing. but if dies, then when dc plug reinserted, load back from sd.
ben_vulpes: ReadErr: has an iphone with the soldered in storage probably, cannot pull sd card?
asciilifeform: there's no particular reason why one couldn't put it all on sd card and make passive pocket maptron.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752723 << bucket3 (i.e. 'normals') was -- definitionally, and now as then -- 68% , i.e. +/- 1 sd . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 19:49 ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/267826934/mature-usb-micro-sd-card-reader-butt
ben_vulpes: "don't keep your files /with/ you, keep your files /in/ you!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/267826934/mature-usb-micro-sd-card-reader-butt ☟︎
asciilifeform: will work ok for, e.g., sd card, or breadboard.
fyr: Okay yes I could just triplicate the primary key on various SD cards and hope nobody finds any of them
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B4A9F8064616CAF4A77EF29B696C8E55FF481782DBFC35092B3CEC51BAA60B2A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9903...1737 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.0.156.30 (ssh-rsa key from 212.0.156.30 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SD)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B4A9F8064616CAF4A77EF29B696C8E55FF481782DBFC35092B3CEC51BAA60B2A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9287...7133 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.0.156.30 (ssh-rsa key from 212.0.156.30 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SD)
asciilifeform: '... going by the diaries, a bright and eager exemplar of 'russian intelligentsia' of the 10s of the last century... 'german liberators', 'liberation bombs', 'friends from the sd', etc '
mircea_popescu: "Because the device is just a Raspberry Pi under the hood that made taking a backup really easy. I simply popped out the Micro SD card and put it in my card reader and used Win32DiskImager to take a full clone of the card." in other lulz.
asciilifeform: i disrecommend the use of the sd card hole, it is (unsurprisingly) agonizingly slow.
asciilifeform: doppler: i have all of the 'alphasmart' boxes, from 1st to last, the 'palm' one indeed took sd cards (two, no less, even) and had infrared diode.
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deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C26B1F5BE386BBD7EB722032DB921BE811247FE85BAC80FF85843707BE5C14F9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1657...3983 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.185.168.253 (ssh-rsa key from 66.185.168.253 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (66-185-168-253.sd.nextlevelinternet.com. US CA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BB88D979E4DE37544AAE721E4A689E7BB3CD94548688F2C6D06260A90CAE737D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1657...3983 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '66.185.168.254 (ssh-rsa key from 66.185.168.254 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (66-185-168-254.sd.nextlevelinternet.com. US CA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5EED8DA71DE6E101739A2B399F917652FE5FAB604B51CDDB5FA922F6B8E9DA09 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1216...5967 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '70.167.75.146 (ssh-rsa key from 70.167.75.146 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (wsip-70-167-75-146.sd.sd.cox.net. US CA)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:51 Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590417 << ok for posterity: the way you deal with this is, you just dd all of it to PC; then you dd again and compare checksums; if they don't match, drink, else, proceed: dd it to a new sd card, mount, and smile ☝︎
Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god ☟︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-10-17: [20:03:26] <mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2016/the-planetary-model-of-software-development/ << /me recommends to asciilifeform phf Framedragger and all those interested in the theory of sd ; very curious as to comments.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/the-planetary-model-of-software-development/ << /me recommends to asciilifeform phf Framedragger and all those interested in the theory of sd ; very curious as to comments.
trinque: you know what's sad? I'm actually running off of an SD card in a USB reader
Framedragger: http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119079 s/DZ/SD/ i don't know why i wrote DZ, very unclear freudian slip
alice_: i added sd as a chord for ι because i do use ι frequently
asciilifeform: sd is optimized for camera (light duty, short bursts of write)
asciilifeform: the one pogo item missing is the sd slot - which imho was ~useless.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467703 << only conventions i ever attended back in us were sd comicon, seemed markedly less lame (but still fairly lame). ☝︎
phf: some problems are probably better solvable than others, can perhaps build a st-506<->sd gadget in garage, can't do same with the cpu
asciilifeform: so i could get rid of the brick and replace with $1 sd card.
asciilifeform: 'I ported a USB driver, a network driver, an SD card reader and a low-level driver for the Pi's VideoCore IV GPU. '
danielpbarron: using an sd card for the userland, and in two cases both had the filesystem corrupted, which is why I had to try it on my sata-style pogo
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phf: ati card, bus that it sits on, wifi, sd card slot, firewire slot, hdmi, bus that those sit on
asciilifeform: 'Sorry, your request could not be processed because the format of the URL was incorrect. Contact the Help Desk if the problem persists. [SD-001]' << l0l