shinohai: I'm in a state of temporary retirement until market conditions improve.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, as a practical matter. i was just discussing the "must have buffer" theoretical point.
mircea_popescu: now this is interesting. there is no... state machine entropy tester ? ynot!
mircea_popescu: somehow the dorks going on "nsa running out of moneyz!" never seem to notice such points in their expert analyseses. "dude, corp that can stuff the cpld like that will NEVER run out of anything."
mircea_popescu: is this a reference to the "lady of pain" ruler of sigil ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-11 19:15 asciilifeform: in other 'news', '-gnatG' flag is very very spiffy
a111: Logged on 2017-07-11 19:15 asciilifeform: in other 'news', '-gnatG' flag is very very spiffy
mod6: yah, seems to output .dg files for each
mircea_popescu: mod6 incidentally, it occurs to me : it might be a good idea for the foundation to have some kind of policy whereby people interested can donate servers ? exactly like freenode, in theory, except they fuck it up so uttertly in practice it's not even funny.
mircea_popescu: but their being retarded doesn't mean we can't do it right.
mod6: Ok, that'd be nice; especially if we can audit the hardware somehow.
mod6: (fwiw, I have no clue how freenode does this either)
mircea_popescu: they only get nsa-approved diddleware from privateinternetaccess.com
☟︎ mircea_popescu: dba variously as usg's very own honeypot for cypher-dorks.
mod6: It could be something along the lines of how I've envisioned the foundation mirrors. someone in L1 can start their own after a discussion with either of us. could be similar maybe.
mod6: They, of course, need to be in good WoT standing, etc.
mod6: Perhaps for test hardware if they were in very good trust standing, they could send us keys to a host we could use. Not sure otherwise how we would receive such hardware.
mod6: As far as production hardware, not sure how we could vet such an environment. But maybe I can just think on this a bit.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't have an obvious pill either. but for instance for running nodes ? what do you care if it's evil. doesn't pay to evil.
☟︎ trinque: as it stands I'm already the host for the trb deps.
trinque: gladly, can call it a donation to the foundation for sure.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dba variously as usg's very own honeypot for cypher-dorks. << AHA, dedicated Thermos sodomizer
mod6: mircea_popescu: aha, i see.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:41 mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't have an obvious pill either. but for instance for running nodes ? what do you care if it's evil. doesn't pay to evil.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a poor indicator. ~nothing the usg does pays.
mircea_popescu: but yes, idiots with daddy's money can do stupid shit thart doesn't even pay.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:36 mircea_popescu: ideally it could take anonymous donations.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 02:34 mircea_popescu: they only get nsa-approved diddleware from privateinternetaccess.com
mircea_popescu: sooner or later the republic will run hardware that nobody can identify the owner of.
mod6: Perhaps, something could be devised, but it'd be a bit complex. As such, someone could "donate a node" in lieu or some credit to their yearly taxation obligations, and to receive such credit we would need to have some basic requirements met. 1) The node is running trb. 2) It is "caught up". 3) Is available and connected for >95% of the time. 4) Can be independently checked/verified that it is up by some sor
mod6: t of bot that we have to keep track of such things.
trinque: dunno they're accurately termed "obligations"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1000 unreliable whores still make a brothel.
mircea_popescu: it is, after all, how hot topic / starbux / sephora / whatever ustard outlet even stays in business.
mod6: "com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj ) as the sole and complete public contribution that may be required of him ; that such payment satisfies the total burden of taxation upon him, and no further payments may be required, in any form nor for any reason or under any title or pretense, by anyone ; that the satisfaction of this obligation is a moral requirement, and outside of the oppinion of
mod6: the sovereign people it will not be enforced."
trinque: mircea_popescu: meant that turning the foundation into a tax man with income tax records seems wrong-headed
mod6: I'm not even sure that Mr. P. suggested that -- I only mentioned that as it is yet undefined weather such donation is "obligation free for the foundation". i.e. we hand back nothing in return.
trinque: mod6: nope, was responding to you
mod6: And I only use the word "obligation" as this is the language of the taxation outline within the DoS.
trinque: guy can donate in public, and deem everyone sees he donated, and decide himself to deduct that from tax
mod6: That's fair in the circumstance that said dontation was made public, indeed.
mod6: Anyway, I think this might be a bit off-topic from the original ; ``consider how to accept hardware donations''.
mircea_popescu: fact is : we will slowly and over the years migrate to a situation where control of hardware will not relate to any sort of "paying for it".
mircea_popescu: certainly not in fucking usd ; but moreover - at all. hardware, much like cunt, belongs to he who knows how to use it well, not to he who inherited a herd of sheep.
mircea_popescu: let the shepherd herd his sheep and make cheese out of them. computers are for intelligent people and no one else.
lobbes: !!rate Birdman 1 valued customer
☟︎ mod6: Perhaps people can donate hardware for whatever purpose trb, uci/gossip via deedbot; then could be accounted for by some process while under our control; maybe even listed as "asset"?
lobbes: !!v 50422E169DE682AB8DAA0F4F94D5A38074FFD57F41A413D7089F263B484FADCF
deedbot: lobbes rated Birdman 1 << valued customer
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for the suggestion, I shall think on it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta decorporealize teh hardware alfie.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be pointed out that by-capital allocation of computing power is both a) immensely, ridiculously ineffectual and b) not really practiced, not even by the "obviously right way" de facto proponents (usg)
mircea_popescu: the contortions they came up to "justify" the disconnect are also pretty lulzy. really, bitch, "silicon valley" ? "investors" ? what the fuck else ? "univeresity grants for research" ? reheheheheally ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just that -- have $100, get $100 worth of computer ; not have - not get.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: currently they're "selling" it by, iirc, the half dollar. hence amazon and all that cloudy bs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's two problems with the by-capital allocation. one is that various lusers (microsoft, govt offices, hospitals, etc) end up buying computers they can afford monetaerily, but can not afford intellectually. then it's all "antivirus companies" and "hackers" and their dumb, drunk-fucking mother on a stick.
mircea_popescu: the other one is that poisonous/poisoned minds end up dedicating their time to navigating the impedance mismatch. so you end up with nsa and "hackers" and "digital crimes" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: none of this nonsense is necessary ; just let go of the notion that dumb kid / arabic speaker / whoever on a stick may touch a machine in his born days.
mircea_popescu: for the cheap added benefit of no further fucking wiki-reddit-washpo-whatevers.
mircea_popescu: obviously the only end state of "man who bought himself wife he could afford money-wise but not really penis-wise" is ... yellow rabid jealousy.
mircea_popescu: in any case -- let the fucking bureaucracy get back to paper already, it's where it belongs.
trinque: hell I installed far less interesting items all over the place in high school
mircea_popescu: amusingly -- the chicken stealer (ro gainar, each language that saw them has its own word) is the lowest level of gypsy male qualification. a sort of transient baccalaureat if you will.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: not really, because the gypsies were/are serious about it. sort of like injun "totem animal" thing
mircea_popescu: (note that in gypsy culture it is not a qualification for theft specifically. just independent operation, not being too dumb to live sorta thing. not a bad test for that, as it turns out.)
mircea_popescu: (and yes -- for girls it IS prostitution. works exactly like black girl booty shaking, if there's music they WILL move. which is how you get 12yos throwing passes at all passers by.)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> modern equiv prolly 'bike thief' << In my experience people taking bikes dun really get attached to them. Bike was there and they could use it to go drug faster.
BingoBoingo: Girls tend to get the opportunity to graduate to "tampering with motor vehicle" i.e. stealing man's car to drug faster and man staying pissed long enoug to file charges, but not long enough to press for Grand Theft Auto
BingoBoingo: So "tampering" charge is all that's left for oppression apparatus to pursue
mircea_popescu: ie, usg attempting to fight bitcoin with ether will result in usg "bitcoin" exchanges bubble popping instead.
mircea_popescu: at this point 50-50 odds they'll manage to scare up the funds necessary to keep the charade going a little longer
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta cover the frog boiling and insert the rock hard truth when it's raep
mircea_popescu: but yes, the grand plan for june was "bitcoin prices drop while ethereum to the moon". it worked as well as the "liberation" of some town of a name i meanwhile forgot it was so long.
BingoBoingo: And it helps to link to the linking to later for our good friend Maxwell Lulz esq.
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sina: I just popped in to complain about this thing and I feel like nobody else I know will understand
sina: makes me feel, so tired.
sina: anyway, hi and all that
sina: I have been watching the logs, interesting discussions
mircea_popescu: "this is super useful for any definition of useful that reduces to utterly fucktarded."
mircea_popescu: do you see what kinds and pluralities of problems oyu cause ? do you ? DO YOU ???
sina: mircea_popescu: you made me feel better
sina: I am imagining you shaking the guy who wrote that blog by the shoulders and screaming DO YOU in his face
a111: Logged on 2014-07-09 01:40 indiancandy1: mircea im in love with you
sina: phf: are you about?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-05 15:50 phf: oh flag, lets you pass this stuff as a command line argument.. i guess this approach works too. i'm not sure why i can't just do message = string(dat) but i'm too lazy to figure it out
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 20:13 trinque: what it lacks (at least as part of the CLOS standard, afaik) is a standard for how one CLOS program shares objects and methods with another, whether on same box or across the network.
sina:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-09#1681116 << AFAIK there are only three methods of handling this, either read header bytes which specify how many bytes to read, or read until a newline-type char or read a fixed number of bytes. would be interested in discussing that further if others know of better ways to handle, it's an interesting problem. I guess reading a fix number of bytes is preferable.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-09 17:12 phf: arbitrarily sized numbers are a variable sized type. gotta figure out ~some~ way of packing them. you're essentially left with type tagged size variation (if a byte is 0, then next struct is 8byte, if a byte is 1, then next struct is 16byte), but at the end you still will end up falling back to "read this number to know how many bytes to read"
sina: it's an in memory key value store with concurrency business
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the advantage of cryptography is that you can say "all messages are 64kb" or w/e.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 09:21 sina:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680863 << it kind of sounds like an erlang cluster? except I guess you are looking for a network of untrusted nodes while erlang cluster all nodes are trusted
shinohai: Still conveniently runs *everything* as suid 0, last time I checked.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 09:39 sina: it's an in memory key value store with concurrency business
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dun worry alf, momstate's on top of things an' relevant an' errything.
mod6: Pantsuits. On scene.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-13 15:30 asciilifeform: in yet-other lulz,
https://archive.is/mcaLO >> 'NEW YORK -- Sheila Abdus-Salaam, an associate judge on New York state's highest court and the first African-American woman to serve on that bench, was found dead Wednesday in the Hudson River, authorities said. ... became the first Muslim judge in the United States when she started serving on the state Supreme Court in 1994 ... On the court, Abdus-Salaam was among the most reliable and
BingoBoingo: <mod6> Pantsuits. On scene. << Pantsuit, now with 50% more elastic for FUPA security
mod6: DONT DELAY! SECURE YOUR FUPA TODAY!
mod6: I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like sword & axe time.
mircea_popescu: all the teams sucked this superbowl so please focus all discussion on some aging mulatto's nipple slip ty.
mod6: hook me up with some of dat blogger speed yoh
mod6: so one day, i did do a test of ent with like ~1gb worth of '1's in a file just to see if the testing tool would hork.
mod6: indeed, did fail with some resonably expected outputs from each test. i'll have to try it again with doing like 100 consecutive 1's per Mb.
mod6: see if I can sneak one past the golie.
mod6: The Chi^2 test should be interesting to see what percentile it falls into and weather this butts up against Knuth's "suspicious" boundary.
mod6: If my keyboard would zap me everytime I misspelled a word, I'd like to think that I'd refrain.
mod6: *que image of leads on balls*
BingoBoingo: You might refrain, lesser homo spaiens may end up freed when their balls decay to the point the leads are no longer attached
BingoBoingo: To find the answer we, in the tradition of our peoples, must consult the ever informative mengele files
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 03:15 mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for the suggestion, I shall think on it.
mircea_popescu: "But the real morals of the story is that one must be able to employ every little part of the animal you kill, like the man does… so that womenz can stuff that many more people into thje same fucking acre. won't you be happy then!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the song, you mean ? or the spurious reinterpretation into "moral" ?
mod6: reminds me of perl maybe. lol
a111: Logged on 2017-07-11 22:02 mircea_popescu: every stroke is precious, every stroke is good
a111: Logged on 2017-07-12 14:38 asciilifeform: so it isn't 'a db', it's an api shim
mod6: hey, it makes it faster
mircea_popescu: in other not-rly-lulz, global warming or no, it is definitely A LOT rainier in costa rica than it was 10-15 years ago
mod6: related to this, it had seemed to me that since i've moved back to mn, we've gotten a lot less snow than what i remember as a kid in the 80s.
mircea_popescu: well, you're welcome to take all this water back any time.
mircea_popescu: i expect i have seen 5 to 10k hours of solid tropical rain the past three months.
mod6: it does seem, aside from this year, that we have gotten more rain recently.
jurov: maybe some useful bits but rather underwhelming paper
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and predictably they've no idea what "a step" is./
mircea_popescu: anyway : ready way to blow this out of water. human can compute mpfhf by hand ; not reversable.
mircea_popescu: this is like people frustrated they can't make airplanes, deciding to create a "through-wall bird model of flight", proceeding to prove birds don't "fly" in the sense of, "through walls".
mircea_popescu: got little bird cannons and erry thing, bird firing range, variety of "Standard" walls, brick, whatever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have a whole gallery of mostly females that swallowed long silicone strands "in their head"
mircea_popescu: wtf is that to do with anything, above and beyond "our ai consists of think()" ?
mircea_popescu: whole fucking point of human brain is to avoid the walls of computation.
mod6: lel, the trackless wastes one is pretty good.
mircea_popescu: if it were fucking functional, it'd have been done in the 60s already.
mircea_popescu: not like much brighter minds than these two belated if unemployagble schmucks TRIED THAT TO DEATH
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform clearly written by someone entirely inncoent of anything beyond reddit and lolpics.com
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform takes a year to make a wine cask, and five minutes to take a piss in it.
mircea_popescu: "yeah but it also misses the point" "WE ARE THE EMPIRE OF MISSING THE POINT!!!"
phf: (how apropos, i'm about to embark on 17 moments of spring watch through with girl)
mod6: i want google to tell me if my pw is 100% kthxbye!
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 23:12 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590325 << your password is now TMSR Safe(tm) certified. we have analyzed your password using stochastic gradient reduction methods(tm) that have determined that your password is safe from hackers. we recommend changing your existing passwords that are not TMSR Safe(tm) to your new TMSR Safe(tm) password. Ask our representative about helpful tips: how to change your Pretty Good Privacy password to TMSR
mod6: <+asciilifeform> lol swordswallower << not bad, but not as good as the two from Monday!
phf: "Свершилось. ПРИШЛИ НЕМЦЫ! Сначала было трудно поверить. Вылезли мы из щели и видим – идут два настоящих немецких солдата. Все бросились к ним." etc.
mod6: all i see is unicode
shinohai: I'm in the wrong fucking business.
mod6: i posted the vid earlier
shinohai: Supposedly the "for" is Alan Shillbert setting up tipjr for him cuz "he dun wanna b doxxed"
mod6: Back in the day some guy wandered in here and got 10 btc for sharpie in pooper.
BingoBoingo: At this point alf is prolly moar the religous hard liner than danielpbarron
mod6: naw, but alf has seen a lot of atrocities, and therefor has some axioms about things.
BingoBoingo: Well, religion doesn't start with invisible friend. Starts with axioms. Parabels acrete. Then editor makes narrative cohesive enough to sell.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Breaking News: Numerous Casualties Result From Chemical Weapons attack by TMSR Lord
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BingoBoingo: are estimated to exceed one hundred thousand.
mod6: i love the smell of organophosphate in the morning
mod6: that looks pretty good there ya.
mod6: JUST LET ME SEE THE FUCKING JPG
mod6: shit is gonna give me a stroke one of these times.
mod6: i thought it was just a creative fly swatter
mod6: everything is child-proof. don't get me started about the soviet gas can.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mod6: in the photo is pretty obvious rat attempt << I thought it was for chihuahuas
mod6: they have this frickin lock/unlock "spill proof" neck on them. that i have to simply discard cause i can't figure out how to use it.
mod6: now i just pour out the normal widemouth with a funnel. spill gas everywhere.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: it breaks after 3-4 uses also << for sure. sad.
BingoBoingo: essentially widemouth with attached funnel
mod6: ya, that doesnt look as bad. i could go on for hours. how the government complicates how i pour liquid out of a container.
mod6: can't argue with that.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mod6: it was a deliberate fuckyou-and-whatchagonnadoaboutit to people who actually work << Not like pantsuit gets to interact with men anyother way
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the Obama-can rules don't appear to apply to metal "safety" containers
BingoBoingo: What do you mean "not in a civilian shop"?
BingoBoingo: This is pointedly no opteron thread. 10,000 could likely be had by late September and $maxint certainly had by next August
ben_vulpes: mod6: plenty of great, green, steel gas cans with no idiocy for sale on 'ebay'