mircea_popescu: anyway, christchurch bought ye olde castle 16th century.
mircea_popescu: why not ? war between "science" parliament and "idea" king.
mircea_popescu: not like i'm saying it muyst fit ; or that i expect or i expect anyone expects history to be a neat didactic work for the benefit of future livers.
mircea_popescu: i don't get how the necessary situation whereby conflict will follow age gap somehow changes what the conflict is about.
mircea_popescu: charles was of the idea that he has the authority to rule as a thing of his own ; the unitarians were of the idea that "supreme executive power exudes from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony"
mircea_popescu: derps wander in here all the time, "were's mp's mandate-from-the-people" ? seems it's enough of a divide to divide even today.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense charles is deposed and mp is not deposed. does this change anything ?
mircea_popescu: the biathlonists who fail are not thereby horse jockeys.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 16:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the 'to your eyes' standard -- i dun think i own any artifacts that work to any other standard. even cement block -- we do not presently know precisely why cement hardens.
mircea_popescu: cement ~= first and best inorganic polymer is afaik not disputed
PeterL: process, you mean like how the oxygens migrate through the mixture?
mircea_popescu: consider the case of paracetamol. "it takes body to cooler end state". yes, it does. how ?
mircea_popescu: to take a practical tack : why is CaO matrix and SrAl2O4 matrix for strontium cement ?
PeterL: biochemistry, mumble mumble, binding to receptors causing chain reaction cascade of molecular processes, er, sumthin
mircea_popescu: "i have this inorganic polymerization model which permits me to predict the behaviour of calcium-based matrices and also predicts that should you replace the calcium with strontium, the oxigen content cvadruples ans there's need for an item extra in there that's just like aluminum for so and so reasons"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: otherwise yes, we've both noticed (and for a long time!) that sunsets and sunrises color the sky. took a WHILE to explain the fucking why.
PeterL: well, I am not materials science expert, but those who study the subject should be able to explain "if I add a bit more of $element, the properties of the material will go $direction"
mircea_popescu: i agree, the people who study subjects should be able to answer questions in subjects.
mircea_popescu: the bitch is -- they aren't able to answer all questions.
PeterL: sorry if I misunderstood, but it sounded like asciilifeform was saying that questions like this are not answerable by anybody
mircea_popescu: well no, i'm sure it's there, just, i also don't currently know exactly how it works. though in my case could be for lack of caring, i haven't been doing any building in 15 years +
a111: Logged on 2018-02-28 15:57 mircea_popescu: ave1 you should ; also read through the eucrypt thing, ima (for instance) need someone to package it into a cmd line gpg replacement as soon as next wek.
mircea_popescu: inexplicably enough, SIX months later that imminent need's still not burning my ass. nfi.
PeterL: so the thing you want, would it replicate all of gpg functionality (making them compatible), or would a separate, simpler thing be good (just does encryp/decrypt and sign/verify using rsa)?
mircea_popescu: if it does sign, verify, encrypt and decrypt i'm happy.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:48 asciilifeform: 'aristotle: your postulates are just as circular!' 'asciilifeform: i made a working diode from things i dug up' 'aristotle: you just got lucky'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody asked him to fuck with be sphere with screwdriver
mircea_popescu: nobody asks moron sysadmin to work with rm -y as default either
mircea_popescu: yes sysadmin work needed. no, playing by seat of pants not necessary.
mircea_popescu: i don't as much as fuck girls without backup, stottin' had to handle radionuclide resonant chamber. gimme break.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure it's on the same line. modern folkx err through absence.
mircea_popescu: yeah. for one thing i ran out of films ; and for the other as i said, i made a server, checking out what i got on it.
mircea_popescu: "I feel now that it is ridiculous to make accusations against the Jews, attributing them qualities and methods which are really much more typically English than Jewish"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : oscar wilde's prison wailings (renamed "de profundis" by some buttfriend or other), uninteresting and unimportant as they may be, nevertheless were published in a bowdlerized version cca 1905, and in a proper version in 1960. THIS version is out of copyright in the world (which pointedly excludes the us) ; now go find it somewhere on teh
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849092 ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 15:27 mircea_popescu: but i seriously do not see the need for a "web" to support this nonsense. they'd be much better served by a single pravda.
mircea_popescu: let's look at the matter : the actual manuscript has been maintained online by the british museum for half a decade by now. more. out of all these "creative" kanzures, exactly ZERO actually transcribed it and published on their own fucking worthless "online presence".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: not even the lowliest of the lowliest fruit shall be picked up, year after year after year AFTER YEAR.
mircea_popescu: nothing but neet-ing about and "do we still have to DO this" bla bla bla "the conversation" nonsense & sheer idiocy. nothing but. NOTHING BUT!
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can there exist so-and-so billion "people" and zero work comes out of them year in, year out ? what is this ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
mircea_popescu: diana_coman /me also answered the ancient debate meanwhile!
diana_coman: I think it's one of those where we take one another's eyes out for half a day, at the end of which it turns out we actually agreed on the main point all along
diana_coman: anyway, to the point: I still find Linebarger interesting, perhaps for the exact reason that I can't yet actually place him fully anywhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, here's a guy dead of ~heart attack~.
mircea_popescu: a) i am willing to bet you're the last one to have touched such. ; b) people can actually fuck up other's boxes' routing ?!
mircea_popescu: so you're telling me douchebag could have taken out your entire plant if he had a clue ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot : " spacecraft, which are crewed by humans telepathically linked with cats to defend against the attacks of malevolent entities in space, which are perceived by the humans as dragons, and by the cats as gigantic rats".
mircea_popescu: "Meeya Meefla", the only city to have preserved its name from the pre-atomic era: evidently Miami, Florida << aaahahaha! this is carrying on. where do all the orcs wanna go ? to meeya meefla, the city of moafle.
mircea_popescu: nevermind entirely isolate ; why are they publishing their own routes ?
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm not understranding the problem. how can box a make box b unreachable ?
mircea_popescu: this can only mean "by advertising that route" to me. what the fuck ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 22:41 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo plox to sit down on somewhere other than dulap ip.
mircea_popescu: so to understand this : box x talks to box y. box y is ambiguously defined, both box a and b send ack in response, box x can not proceed connecting ?
mircea_popescu: whereby your switch does not forward packets coming from the wrong a ?
mircea_popescu: you're telling me you have some magical lan whereby the boxes aren't distinguished ?
mircea_popescu: both the words "switch" and "router" actually originate from a time after this problem being resolved ;/ the switch will switch, and the router will route. you got a ... multiplexer ?
mircea_popescu: a large portion of why people are stuck paying that $$$ ; and i guess pizarro will too ?
mircea_popescu: and you ~still~ don't see either the utility or the possibility of having a box do switching ?
mircea_popescu: at the very least you could have a listener attached, report to you cases of double-ack
mircea_popescu: but btw, a) still stands. i judge the odds of some user even touching conf.d ~0 and the odds of your having accidentally used the wrong values during a resetting ~100%.
mircea_popescu: and of course this stands for whole space ? one could eg make foundation box inaccessible by renting rk ?
mircea_popescu: let me get this straight : if me and you have a rk, and you run your blog from there, and i overload your ip but only use port x which you do not use a) you'll never know and b) i have two ips now.
mircea_popescu is currently thinking this should be turned into a feature.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:53 ben_vulpes: douchebag: pizarro board has serious reservations about your fucking up our honorsystem ip routing table and bringing dos/whatever hell down upon our little gated community, can i extract a commitment from you to not misbehave in my cab?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:42 ascii_lander: the only sensible policy is to proclaim, ahead of time, that any customer found monkeying with the lan , will be banished, with no refunds and no recourse;
mircea_popescu: so basically what's the idea here, "do not edit /etc/conf.d/net without checking with #pizarro" ?
mircea_popescu: anywhere a customer'd know ? such as a comment in the file itself ? such as on sales pagE ?
mircea_popescu: do me a favour and add #Do not change this if you're not entirely sure ; talk in #pizarro to make sure ; messing up the routing will cost you your reputation.
mircea_popescu: so suppose as the premise that (all) people hallucinate "dragons" in so-and-so circumstances. there's nothing wrong with this whatsoever. all literature requires a premise ; the premise will be some thing not commonly seen. that's how it works, that's how it's supposed to work, it's not the fucking police blotter or an actuarial table, it's a story. no argument.
mircea_popescu: necessarily, in order for literature to even exist, there must be a counter to this. an exception, a qualifying circumstance, what have you. say it is that class y doesn't share the property of class x. whether this is going over (people, yes, but CATS no) or going in (people, yes, except blonde virgin females with labia minora extending past and outside labia majora) it matters not.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER! the degree and type and quality of that going, in or over irrespective, then sets the tone for the whole piece. necessarily and without possibility of escape.
mircea_popescu: because the space of possibilities constrains, very much like
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687609 ; once the quality of your going is "not people -- but cats" you're stuck writing a whimsical tale for 9 year old girls. because there, and there only, is the classification so gross as to go "people... cats..."
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:45 mircea_popescu: there is major difference between competition in software and competition in (any kind of) hardware. very narrow protein spaces in biofilms.
mircea_popescu: IF you aim to write "science-" anything, you must therefore show finer understanding of the available categorization trees than "oh, people see dragons but cats see rats".
mircea_popescu: but if instead you proceed to pile on "man-cat-head-intermingler" on top of the nonsense world made of people and cats and a chair, the result is not unlike the bridge that jack built : first it was a hovel, then it got a latrine boolted to the side and now somebody put a length of train track sorta sideways and calls it "a tunnel".
mircea_popescu: in short, stories work by fusing portions of reality not currently seen fused ; making out relationships where no relationship ordinarily exists. that's what a story is, always. but if the story aims to connect items that can not be connected, because they for some preexisting cause necessarily can't be found in the same place at the same time, or because they're categorically different kinds of items, or for any other reason
mircea_popescu: , the "story" attempting the fusing blindly becomes "pulp fiction" in literature, or "conspiracy theory" in the common course of storytelling (yes, that's what people do when they talk -- they tell stories).
mircea_popescu: whereas if it's particularly good quality, exposing an ACTUAL connection not before observed for fault of observation, that story actually becomes outright science.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, i expect "science fiction" to be EXACTLY science that very well could have been, but happens to isn't ; not conspiracy theorism.
mod6:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-11#1849451 << asciilifeform handed them over to me to test they had been reset, and one could login via a temp password. This was done to douchebag's and mats' old rockchips. They both worked great after reset. I never touched the /etc/conf.d/net file.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 14:39 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i test'em before handing over to mod6 .
mod6: As far as my rockchip, it was mistakenly unplugged, and never worked after that.
mircea_popescu: (for completeness, the other cause of my distaste is very poor mastery of the formal aspects of the craft, like in gor fragment linked or all of literotica or everything david mamet ever wrote. just BAD , especially dialogue, but overall this impression that a lame and blind guy's fighting for his life in wordmud)
mod6: And further, I never touched my /etc/conf.d/net file either.
mod6: I had been using my rockchip all the time.
mod6: I can't say for mats' or douchebags, but I can attest that after they were reset, that I could log in successfully to each at least 1 time.
mod6: It's been about 8 or 9 days since it lost power.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-11 09:31 diana_coman: good morning; I can't seem to be able to connect to my rockchip anymore:
http (ossasepia.com) gives 403 You don't have permission to access / on this server ; ssh refuses connection too; there was NO change as far as I know - I haven't touched it in quite a while and last time I connected everything worked fine; any idea what might be wrong there, BingoBoingo ?
lobbes: I can also confirm I have not touched my /etc/conf.d
lobbes: */etc/conf.d/net I mean
mircea_popescu: * Connected to ossasepia.com (161.0.121.198) port 80 (#0)
mircea_popescu: ^ it's strictly impossible for the problem asciilifeform to be involved, seeing how i actually do handshake.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-11 09:31 diana_coman: good morning; I can't seem to be able to connect to my rockchip anymore:
http (ossasepia.com) gives 403 You don't have permission to access / on this server ; ssh refuses connection too; there was NO change as far as I know - I haven't touched it in quite a while and last time I connected everything worked fine; any idea what might be wrong there, BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What worked for that was a power cycle, but...
mircea_popescu: lol did you contribute a few boxes to the internet's efforts to spam itslef ?
mircea_popescu: "Where would he ever find a woman who could compare with her?" dawg, check it! out and out fury-ism!
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no; and moreover as previously stated in between "it works" and "it doesn't work" I did not even connect to it!
lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> didja rebuild your rk kernel with no xhci ( usb3 ) ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can see the issues you raise, they are standing.
diana_coman: technically speaking I don't own any other box - they are leased by smg rather than by me and I'm not very keen on mixing the stuff tbh; I'll check the backups to see if there's anything worth the trouble still lost
diana_coman: the lifetime of this drive though seems veeery short, so I need to decide on wtf
☟︎ diana_coman: asciilifeform, can the disk be connected to the working rockchip itself so I rummage there? atm it seems it's only the very latest comments that'd be lost so I'm in 2 minds about it anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 16:56 diana_coman: the lifetime of this drive though seems veeery short, so I need to decide on wtf
mircea_popescu: for ssds especially is most illustrative (pro tip : it is not popssible to get bad sectors while drive not worn out (ie spares still exist) ; if drive worn out why was it in) etc
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other news nobody cares about, ro "musama" is not, as i had thought, commie-era invention to describe early plastics (in early application, vinyl table cloth) like "bakelite", but ancient tk word for waxcloth (müsemma). all neologisms are turkish in origin!!1
mircea_popescu: it's like "do oyu know neogreek" "who the fuck ever would ?!"
mircea_popescu: classical tk, in the sense of sublime porte tk, is mostly a case of "do you know all the relevant poetry"
mircea_popescu: imo it's the better euro town. not to disparage vienna
mircea_popescu: all "conquered peoples" must be let do as they will, all syllabic agglomeration must be permitted to sit undisturbed, millet all the way
mircea_popescu: process not so similar to the invention of "modern russian".
diana_coman: asciilifeform, oh hey, I CAN ssh into my rockchip apparently
mircea_popescu: there's this weird period in the 19th and 20th century wherein the application of "that there was a limit where the flaunting of their foul acts and opinions before the world must stop" was that "if you agree the world's in summary ourdemocracy, you may continue to try and implement your boyish nonsense in particular, short ranged versions"
mircea_popescu: hence "nationalism" as a concept -- aims to be the answer to "what boy society could exist in female world ???"
mircea_popescu: apache ~will~ fall down now and again, usually through oom.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I did not set apache to start on boot, no; that much I'm not surprised at
diana_coman: I'm so fed up with "resets" that if my machine resets, I'd rather know+have a look at it then have everything restart
mircea_popescu: 148 days 13 hours 4 minutes 56 seconds on trilema box.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, on rockchip as it was, I didn't fiddle with its kernel
diana_coman: asciilifeform: Linux ossasepia 4.4.114asciilifeform #3 SMP Wed Apr 11 03:53:21 -00 2018 aarch64 GNU/Linux
diana_coman: you know, it'd be funny if it turned out it is some usb3 shit, just in case there wasn't enough reason to get rid of it
BingoBoingo: At this point the question is physical usb3 shit or software usb3 shit
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ah, ok; I haven't really found anything useful in logs so far
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I disconnected from the rockchip
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-11 15:01 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In the cage
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is quite the useful remote pair of hands by now, isn't he.
mircea_popescu: well what can i tell ya, this looks like it's a premium item.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.