tmsr - Log 2016-05-17

deedbot: RBLrbl voiced for 30 minutes.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://theintercept.com/snowden-sidtoday << qntra ?

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform has been looking, it appears to be - like the other snowdeniana - mostly rubbish

asciilifeform: 'Consistent with the requirements of our agreement with our source, our editors and reporters have carefully examined each document, redacted names of low-level functionaries and other information that could impose serious harm on innocent individuals, and given the NSA an opportunity to comment on the documents to be published (the NSA’s comments resulted in no redactions other than two names of relatively low-level employees that

asciilifeform: we agreed, consistent with our long-standing policy, to redact). ' << aahahahahaha

asciilifeform: 'we asked hitler first!'

asciilifeform: sop for the greenwalders.

asciilifeform: 'There are also documents in the archive that we do not believe should be published because of the severe harm they would cause innocent people (e.g., private communications intercepted by NSA, the disclosure of which would destroy privacy rights; and documents containing government speculation about bad acts committed by private individuals (typically from marginalized communities), the disclosure of which would permanently destroy

asciilifeform: reputations).'

asciilifeform: ... how about the imbecile's ~own~ reputation ?

asciilifeform: from the l0lchest,

asciilifeform: https://theintercept.com/snowden-sidtoday/2830111-mathematician-an-insider-s-view << the first snowden-anything that even ~mentions~ crypto, afaik

asciilifeform: an utter snore.

felipelalli: deedbot http://dpaste.com/2Q5NW4S.txt

felipelalli: deedbot http://dpaste.com/110RSQS.txt

felipelalli: deedbot are you sleeping?

felipelalli: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/110RSQS.txt

deedbot-: accepted: 1

felipelalli: I'm sorry, wrong deedbot, I thought it was already merged.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how the fuck are "low leve functionaries" innocent

mircea_popescu: they're the guiltiest wtf.

mircea_popescu: ~the only people that are getting shot. otherwise, hitler himself usually pivots into court jester job.

asciilifeform: dun ask me!

asciilifeform: ask the greencocksucker

mircea_popescu: hey, the emulator said you'd say "don'\t ask me! ask them!"

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: he even censored some of the humour column 'where i used to work before nsa' things

asciilifeform: because - i suppose - items like 'i designed the levels for the game xxxxxxxxx' might give the name away

asciilifeform just finished snarfing up whole crock of shit

mircea_popescu: in a different life you could have been gru "low level employee". making 2-3 summaries/day

asciilifeform: neh, too ethnic

asciilifeform: just like - incidentally - here in good old usa

mircea_popescu: afaik they let orcs in that sorta job.

asciilifeform: non-jew orcs.

mircea_popescu: lol. jew enough to count here, not jew enough to own real estate huh.

mircea_popescu: alf the fell-through-teh-jew-cracks

asciilifeform: jew means quite other thing in su.

asciilifeform: sorta like the dark skinned turks in mircea_popescu's mosque

asciilifeform: sole purpose is to fill the back row.

mircea_popescu: btw, "generalnvo shtaba" was always the fucking lulziest thing. because, obvious, in ro shtab denotes... well what you'd call a catamite.

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform totters, falls down

mircea_popescu: you know ?

asciilifeform: well now i know.

mircea_popescu: in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA

ben_vulpes: jew enough to get in, too ethnic to get joo gold once in

mircea_popescu: aha.

mircea_popescu: and speaking of heresy : "lone wolf" for the ishits is an incredible game. it actually makes the platform all by itself. i'm ranking it up there with baldur's gate and the gothic series, it's an absolute gem.

mircea_popescu: based apparently on some derpy genre fiction by a fellow named joe dever. he's not very good, and his purply prose somewhat brings it down. if only they had someone who could write. but otherwise, the execution is outright brilliant

mircea_popescu: gotta play it on hard difficulty, of course. first time i've seen a combat system i liked, for that matter.

ben_vulpes: high praise

mircea_popescu: deserved.

BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform has been looking, it appears to be - like the other snowdeniana - mostly rubbish << Saw, seemed to be my take, slept on it and still mulling it over

BingoBoingo: Quality baseball https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sC-Ay7LG--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/tu3ntd89lvismlevh4pp.jpg

BingoBoingo: In other news, that is a hell of an obstacle for that team to face on that race https://i.sli.mg/IL9ex0.jpg

mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them". ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Looking like New York magazine is following mircea_popescu's literary lead and promoting cock cages for all https://archive.is/gYtU9

mircea_popescu: lol!

BingoBoingo: "Welcome to Beta Male, a new site from New York Media that for the next four weeks will talk about manly kinds of things, only maybe not in the usual manly way. And welcome to Mansplaining, a weeklong series on the Cut in which men will (finally) explain themselves to women, in any way they want. The convergence of these two offerings is coincidental but, we hope, serendipitous — an opportunity for the sexes to talk, fight a little, an

BingoBoingo: d ultimately ignore each other."

mircea_popescu: honestly, it's a surprise to me they haven't introduced cockcaging for us kids as of yet. for one thing, they're doing the entire fucktarded "can't drink till 21", so they definitely could. for the other thing, it'd make so much fucking sense, in the twisted psychopathy that passes for sense in the us world : kid gets a nice cage around the age of 3 or so. prevents penis from growing, which is +++. mom gives the key to a well ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: brought up lady sometime, which maybe lets the little guy out a little now and again.

BingoBoingo: Further sacrilege from that outlet: "That may sound steep for what looks like Tony Stark’s Keurig, but Beyond Zero could be the biggest thing in alcohol since the tiny umbrella. Unlike frozen water, when booze cubes melt they don’t dilute a drink; and in fact, they make it colder, because they freeze at temperatures well below 32 degrees, when water turns to ice. The benefit: “It really smooths a drink out,” Sherman says. “It r

BingoBoingo: emoves the ethanol heat.” High-proof liquors go down easier at low temperatures, resulting in beverages that taste as God intended, without all the burning. If you ever wondered why your uncle keeps his jug of Popov in the freezer, now you know."

mircea_popescu: they already did the whole male genital mutilation thing "for medicine and science", no idea why not use the modern technology to enact the logical progress.

mircea_popescu: maybe next 5year plan though.

BingoBoingo: mebbe

BingoBoingo: Or perhaps they will start on college campuses?

mircea_popescu: kinda late, but i guess yo ugotta start somewhere.

BingoBoingo: Well that's where the rap hysteria is, give the keys the title IX office

mircea_popescu: now let's have a little fun

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deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of trinque from 3 to 4 << his lordship the master of the rolls.

mircea_popescu: $rate phf 4 his lordship the lord chancellor

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BingoBoingo: lol

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mircea_popescu: hehe.

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mircea_popescu: aaaand... i think that's erryone.

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467511 <<< this is what a few million in 'murican VC funding buys you today! ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 07:50 mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them". ☟︎

jurov iz 1773 l0rd yay!

jurov: https://media.giphy.com/media/zeLKVgFt0bDpe/giphy.gif

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: that's one rough bear.

ben_vulpes: http://66.media.tumblr.com/c674eb0ca22b78f6f3527bf1ff37a14f/tumblr_o5ftx1qfGK1v05rsfo1_1280.jpg

ben_vulpes still has no idea what he's doing on the lordship, has barely adlai-grade snr

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467578 << sorta works, for some value of work, some of the time. throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 11:44 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467511 <<< this is what a few million in 'murican VC funding buys you today!

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, maybe you find something.

asciilifeform puts on his tricorn

mircea_popescu: ahoy!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467516 << my current understanding is that this is being done, but using dope, and without the off switch ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 08:01 mircea_popescu: honestly, it's a surprise to me they haven't introduced cockcaging for us kids as of yet. for one thing, they're doing the entire fucktarded "can't drink till 21", so they definitely could. for the other thing, it'd make so much fucking sense, in the twisted psychopathy that passes for sense in the us world : kid gets a nice cage around the age of 3 or so. prevents penis from growing, which is +++. mom gives the key to a well

mircea_popescu: yeah, but that's a shittier solution.

mircea_popescu: cage is palpable, therefore educative.

asciilifeform: the zookeepers aren't esp. interested in education, but in... domestication

asciilifeform: hence steers.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the dept. of Run Moar Winblowz: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=820

mircea_popescu: i guess a bureaucracy can't even be proficient in perversity.

asciilifeform: 'When parsing executables packed by an early version of aspack, a buffer overflow can occur in the core Symantec Antivirus Engine used in most Symantec and Norton branded Antivirus products. ... This is a remote code execution vulnerability. Because Symantec use a filter driver to intercept all system I/O, just emailing a file to a victim or sending them a link is enough to exploit it. On Linux, Mac and other UNIX platforms, this res

asciilifeform: ults in a remote heap overflow as root in the Symantec or Norton process. On Windows, this results in kernel memory corruption, as the scan engine is loaded into the kernel (wtf!!!), making this a remote ring0 memory corruption vulnerability - this is about as bad as it can possibly get.'

mircea_popescu: hahaaha what@

asciilifeform: aha.

phf: such beauty

mircea_popescu: anyone has any argument as to how exactly the "computer security" people aren't EXACTLY scammers ?

asciilifeform: btw this is not 1st time av gets raped

asciilifeform: almost a routine now

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the dept. of orl0lz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-negative-interest-rate-gap.html

phf: http://www.wsj.com/articles/buffetts-berkshire-takes-1-billion-position-in-apple-1463400389 << "just didn’t seem like a move Mr. Buffett would make. It wasn’t, as it turns out. Instead, it was among the largest investments yet by the two former hedge-fund managers that Mr. Buffett brought on board as potential successors to run his company’s $129 billion stock portfolio."

phf: (and since nobody should be arsed to read that shit, i'll spoil the names for you, "But Todd Combs, who joined Berkshire in 2011, and Ted Weschler, who arrived a year later", rest of article is a mix of head scratching and guarded apple praise)

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: so he ~did~ get bobbecked.

mircea_popescu: ha.

ben_vulpes: nobody finds the proximity of this to the 'apple invests 1b in didi" story interesting?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467579 << 91* actually appears on that site's list (as of today), the other two do not - but i can't connect to them either. blackholed. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 11:44 a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 07:50 mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them".

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's didi

ben_vulpes: especially after the buffet "america is best investmant!1" routine of the past five years?

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes maybe BingoBoingo if he can be arsed.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-china-idUSKCN0Y404W, to pick at random

asciilifeform: lel, that's pretty random

asciilifeform: chinese uber ?

ben_vulpes: "for teh car!"

ben_vulpes: "big data!"

asciilifeform: i still dun get it

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform appears, but magically still 6 seen. etc.

mircea_popescu: not reliable is niot reliable.

asciilifeform: may as well invest in cement ?

ben_vulpes: "exposure to cn!"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my point is that the whole motherfucking orchestra is not reliable

mircea_popescu: also note the "since 5 minutes ago". 46.* didn't blinl

asciilifeform: not only hitler says he can't connect, but i can't either...

asciilifeform: the 'let's talk plaintext to randos' thing was great while it lasted. ☟︎

asciilifeform: from ben_vulpes's link,

asciilifeform: 'Jean Liu, Didi's president, is the daughter of Liu Chuanzhi, the politically connected founder of Chinese computer maker Lenovo Group Ltd (0992.HK).'

asciilifeform: cn sop.

mircea_popescu: accepted 136.243.139.96:43112 disconnecting 136.243.139.96:43112 accepted 178.62.20.190:35312

mircea_popescu: blackholed my foot.

mircea_popescu: disconnecting 136.243.139.96:7513 < actually it's quite obviously being spammed.

asciilifeform: re earlier lulz, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-companies-lawsuits-idUSKCN0Y2131

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: noshit.jpg

mircea_popescu: derps.

mircea_popescu: disconnecting 129.13.252.47:59763 accepted 129.13.252.47:60827

mircea_popescu: basically there's a pile of derps connecting on all the ports. not so hard to blacklist i guess.

mircea_popescu: and it's obviously an attempt at attrition seeing how the sockets receive no messages

mircea_popescu: 164 46.101.246.115 ; 152 136.243.139.96 ; 72 148.251.151.71 ; 125 173.255.251.118 ; 95 181.171.213.172 ; << the offenders

jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAOLTsTtZis something special for BingoBoingo

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, now they see one of mine in 46.* but no longer yours. because there's a rule lol.

mircea_popescu: such tools.

asciilifeform: brilliant

shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo morning lampoon: http://ix.io/FwI

gribble: The operation succeeded.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467516 << my current understanding is that this is being done, but using dope, and without the off switch << AHA, prozac, zoloft, paxil and other SSRI drugs ☝︎

BingoBoingo: jurov: lol

BingoBoingo: In other news, Imgur.com is the latest popular shitsite whose urls will lead to a Qntra comment being auto ignored as spam.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of newzl0lz, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/feds-say-suspect-should-rot-in-prison-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives

BingoBoingo: lol

asciilifeform: 'The government said Monday he should remain jailed indefinitely until he complies. The authorities also said that it's not a violation of the man's Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination because it's a "foregone conclusion" that illegal porn is on the drives and that he is only being asked to unlock the drives, not divulge their passcodes. ☟︎

asciilifeform: '

asciilifeform: cokemachine is not far.

shinohai: http://fortune.com/2016/05/16/venezuela-jail-factory-owners/

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You seem like a less busy person nao. You want to write up that news from coke machine slant?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still pretty busy, at least for a while

BingoBoingo: k

asciilifeform: it isn't as if i found a magic well of dough, i still (imagine) do wurk

asciilifeform: presently wrapping my head around a gigantic src ball of ????

BingoBoingo: Have you tried applying to Home Depot? They will let you work part time. 20 hours/week leaves you less prison time than 40+ hours of sodomy. ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun leave the house no moar.

asciilifeform: (there will be some sort of gig i fly out to a few x/year, but hasn't yet happened)

deedbot: [Qntra] Hussein Bahamas "Homeland Security" Department Wages War On Massage - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hussein-bahamas-homeland-security-department-wages-war-on-massage/

asciilifeform: and i am really curious what BingoBoingo has been smoking

BingoBoingo: Tobacco

asciilifeform: 'home despot' month wage wouldn't even pay my electric bill.

BingoBoingo: Use less electric? Seriously though they'd basically be paying you to exercise. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: And it would be hard to service Hitler there

asciilifeform: by that token i could eat pistol and use 0 electric

asciilifeform: but not interested yet.

BingoBoingo: Anyways, prolly ought to convert as many appliances as you can from electric to 2-cycle gas motors because Hitler hates their farts. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i can think of very few mechanisms i despise more than 2cycle engine.

asciilifeform: if there is any point at all to having civilizations that ban things, 2cycle ought to have long ago been placed where the spark gap radio is ☟︎

asciilifeform: forbidden anywhere near population centres

BingoBoingo: What's wrong with 2-cycle? They are wonderfully simple. No need to do seperate oil changes.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo enjoys breathing burned oil ?

BingoBoingo: 2-cycle exhaust is the EXACT smell of freedom and opportunity!

asciilifeform: nah that'd be napalm in the morning

asciilifeform: or was that victory.

BingoBoingo: That is victory.

asciilifeform: 'One of the women allegedly offered an undercover officer money in exchange for a sexual act, resulting in an additional prostitution charge.' << not misprint ?

asciilifeform: dog bit man ?

asciilifeform: or man - dog ?

BingoBoingo: ^ shinohai

asciilifeform: i read 'man - dog'

BingoBoingo: seems man bit dog

shinohai shrugs, prepares more tea.

asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/05/countable-classiccoin-nodes-dropping/#comment-58690 << lulzy

BingoBoingo: shinohai: Which way is it supposed to read?

shinohai: I dunno, will reread after this tea is finished.

asciilifeform: from the dept. of ancient things that were neato, http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/01/robot_odyssey_the_hardest_computer_game_of_all_time.html

deedbot: [Qntra] Hussein Bahamas "Justice" Department To Jail US Citizen Indefinitely Without Charges - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hussein-bahamas-justice-department-to-jail-us-citizen-indefinitely-without-charges/

BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot http://thewhet.net/2016/2016-baibf-a-drudgery << somehow i missed this. quite lulzy, and reminiscent of american b00k-centered events (e.g., sf cons) ☟︎

gribble: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: ;;seen polarbeard

gribble: I have not seen polarbeard.

asciilifeform: ;;seen funkenstein_

gribble: I have not seen funkenstein_.

asciilifeform: interesting.

asciilifeform: in other 'news',

asciilifeform: trb on dulap up for 127 d, 17h, 30m, contiguous; current footprint == ~8G.

BingoBoingo: nice

asciilifeform: ny000000000000 r3c0rd every day!11111

deedbot: [Qntra] Transmayos Throw Wrench In Hussein Bahamas Bathroom Brouha - http://qntra.net/2016/05/transmayos-throw-wrench-in-hussein-bahamas-bathroom-brouha/

BingoBoingo: ^ Literal application of shitware tag

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i find it quite nontrivial to unravel wtf that piece is actually about

asciilifeform: having read none of the redditola that presumably prompted it

BingoBoingo: Transgenders and bathrooms

asciilifeform: yeah but ~what~ about'em

asciilifeform: i have intensely nfi what the actual latest 'twist' is

BingoBoingo: And Bahamas insisting people allow transgenders to use the bathrooms they identify as, even if they are mayogender but still identify as their former gender

asciilifeform: as i understood it, the entire 2bathroom thing is slowly being repealed

asciilifeform: for some reason this doesn't tickle me

BingoBoingo: No, just the meaning of the 2bathroom is changing.

asciilifeform: (although mircea_popescu pretty convincingly explained that it ought to)

BingoBoingo: Eh, the pentagon was built with a 4bathroom system

asciilifeform: m/w * black/white ?

BingoBoingo: aha

asciilifeform: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Pentagon << related comedy

hanbot: BingoBoingo, a few typographical edits: Last week much of the American media's news pipelines were constipated the announcement / constipated by/with ; Hussein Bahamas announcement / Bahamas' ; a adipose filled apron / an adipose ; Many mayogndered individuals / mayogendered ; insistence of maygendered / mayogendered ; than it is for male and females / males .

hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467703 << only conventions i ever attended back in us were sd comicon, seemed markedly less lame (but still fairly lame). ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 18:18 asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot http://thewhet.net/2016/2016-baibf-a-drudgery << somehow i missed this. quite lulzy, and reminiscent of american b00k-centered events (e.g., sf cons)

BingoBoingo: ty, fxing

asciilifeform: hanbot: i showed up at 'balticon' a few times (where i even saw, by pure chance... the infamous eric raymond, limping along)

asciilifeform: and also at 'capclave'

asciilifeform: both are ok places to load up on '50s-60s paperback sf

trinque: the bathroom thing is yet another "social issue" that can stall permanently like gay marriage or abortion

asciilifeform: typically they have an actual writer as guest of honor, and a hundred or so pathetic 'wannabees'

trinque: thereby taking up the limited resources of the democratic mind

hanbot: asciilifeform good enough, but do they sport >9000 noise/myopia machines?

asciilifeform: hanbot: these being what ?

asciilifeform: trinque: on the contrary, it is moving along nicely. e.g., in many restaurants even now, there is only 1 or more single-locking-room bathrooms. i welcome the extinction of the other kind, where you actually see/hear/smell the other people.

asciilifeform: good motherfuckign riddance.

hanbot: portable radios/pc "sound systems"/projectors/color-changing spotlights/blinkenlichten

asciilifeform: hanbot: nope.

phf: asciilifeform: main issue with that plan is that girls notoriously take longer time in the bathroom. very rarely do i have to wait in man's bathroom, but i've now spent some time in long mixed gender lines

BingoBoingo: ty hanbot should be fixed

hanbot: cool deal

asciilifeform: phf: if anyone cared to solve this, it is trivially solvable, and iirc some western eu places have the pill against it: door automatically opens after x minutes

BingoBoingo: Some changes were made to the changes "male and females" was instead changed to "traditionally gendered"

asciilifeform: countdown, 3, 2, 1, and yer pants had better be up

hanbot: <trinque> the bathroom thing is yet another "social issue" that can stall permanently like gay marriage or abortion << pun o' the day

BingoBoingo: One thing that is becoming clear is the lord admirald alf is not ready to take his fleet into fight the culture war

asciilifeform: waiwut

asciilifeform: there's culture there?

asciilifeform: i hear there is also a war between the 2 anthills in my back yard

asciilifeform: i have not yet signed up to take sides in that one yet, either.

BingoBoingo: No culture, but that doesn't mean there can't be a fight over the absence

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so what do you see as the opposing sides here

BingoBoingo: Who said the sides had to be opposing?

asciilifeform: sorta implied in 'war' neh?

BingoBoingo: Do shit flinging monkeys have stable sides in their turdwarz?

BingoBoingo: $up Framedragger

deedbot: Framedragger voiced for 30 minutes.

Framedragger: "maybe irc bouncers for bad connections are a good idea" :)

asciilifeform: and for good connections.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How many sides does hamster wheel have

Framedragger: indeed, indeed..

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno about you but i do not run on hamster wheels, nor spend time in monkey house, nor fraternise with the ants, nor try to fit into rat tunnels, etc

asciilifeform: let the animal kingdom be.

asciilifeform: unless yer a farmer, or paid exterminator, whatever.

BingoBoingo: What is unrewarding about those professions. Exterminators get paid to play Himmler all day!

asciilifeform: ;;google "will you rub some lotion on my back"

gribble: Error: We broke The Google!

asciilifeform: ugh.

hanbot: isn't being an exterminator an inherent part of being paid?

asciilifeform: hanbot: apparently not...

phf: asciilifeform: unless you're inside mp's dirigible, pretty sure you're inside monkey house. these "wars" mostly end with you losing further ground one way or another

asciilifeform: phf: on the reservation, at any rate

BingoBoingo: hanbot: Plenty of homeowners play exterminitor on their own unpaid

asciilifeform: but the latter is presently large enough that one can avoid running into any monkeys for arbitrary stretch of time

asciilifeform: but yes, when folks like BingoBoingo ask 'why the burn rate', asciilifeform answers 'keeping force field against monkeys going is not cheap'

phf: asciilifeform: my point is that like with any war, "on the reservation" you're not necessarily going to run into active soldiers, but more likely into a mine, or border control, or whatever else the effects of war are.

asciilifeform: eventually.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe spray smarter?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: care to be more specific ?

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, generally if you spray the right kind of sweet murder target toward the pest you actually have... You end up having to spray less of it and saving.

BingoBoingo: Just because all the marketing is behind monsanto and glyphosate doesn't mean there aren't cases where a diquat is phine too.

asciilifeform: not entirely unrelatedly, as a young man i kept 'bug spray' around, habitually, as my ancestors did; but then learned that wet/dry vac works 100% as well and doesn't create cloud of poisonous crud to breathe the rest of the day

BingoBoingo: Sure, but there's spray you can use before the bug is even there that work better.

asciilifeform: i can scarcely apprehend what BingoBoingo's house must smell like.

BingoBoingo kind of surprised in the swamp that termites have not already ate the alfnest.

asciilifeform: carpenter ant is more common here.

BingoBoingo: Aha, so ant is winning ant/termite war there I presume?

BingoBoingo: Anyways permethrin doesn't really have any smell I can discern once it is dry

BingoBoingo: And once it dries in place it both repels and murder vermin

asciilifeform: when i worked in the outfit that did antidotes for organophosphate poisons ('nerve' gases) we used these common pesticides as a substitute for the real thing

asciilifeform: (as the facility wasn't usg-blessed for the Real Deal)

asciilifeform: works just as well, just with different, slower kinetics

BingoBoingo: Sure, dose makes the poison

asciilifeform: 'dose' is tricky concept

asciilifeform: as some folks in the good ol' days found out when they tried to do the 'acclimate to strychnine' thing with cumulative poisons, e.g, arsenic

BingoBoingo: Look, none of us are going to live to be 145. Do you want to live among the roaches or not...

BingoBoingo realizes he maybe ought to stahp pushing alf towards "better living through chemistry" or he might become the sort who mows his lawn with Imazapyr

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: y'know, there is >1 way to live free of roach

BingoBoingo: Sure, but your blog seems to be rather centered on various kitchen pests. I just assume it isn't a coincidence.

asciilifeform: not the least.

asciilifeform: at the time i wrote most of it, i lived in a vile and uncleanable (in the sense that vermin lived in the walls and fed upon the opulent fastfood waste of the verminiferous neighbours)

asciilifeform: cheapo flat

asciilifeform: i do not live there any more

asciilifeform: nor have any intention of ever so much as chancing to.

asciilifeform: nor have any interest in the 'just fill it up with ddt' approach to problem-solving

asciilifeform: in this or other fields.

BingoBoingo: How is jsut fill it up with ddt any different when you live in one of those than live with x86 is in coputing for same problem

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: x86 is more analogous to, perhaps, roaches and lice in a prison cell

asciilifeform: where you dun have the option of moving

asciilifeform: and your choices reduce to whether to eat the bugs or not yet

ben_vulpes: what cell

ben_vulpes: the world is a concrete box!

ben_vulpes: and these--

ben_vulpes: my cattle

ben_vulpes noms an abstraction

shinohai: asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/BoltsJ/status/727270582421733377

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform & other interested parties : i've actually verified that the behaviour in question comes from stock bitcoin 0.6 and some 0.7. the shit's so bad it self-ddoses its own network!

asciilifeform: hm?

asciilifeform: shinohai: who's that ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the stock historical bitcoin client, prb, without any modification, will act like a malicious node.

asciilifeform: well yes

asciilifeform: but how

mircea_popescu: that part i've not invested in.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467659 << the logic of these idiots. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:51 asciilifeform: 'The government said Monday he should remain jailed indefinitely until he complies. The authorities also said that it's not a violation of the man's Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination because it's a "foregone conclusion" that illegal porn is on the drives and that he is only being asked to unlock the drives, not divulge their passcodes.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467668 << lmao stop picking on teh poor bee! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:55 BingoBoingo: Have you tried applying to Home Depot? They will let you work part time. 20 hours/week leaves you less prison time than 40+ hours of sodomy.

mircea_popescu: you know incidentally, if the current nazi party were in fact in soviet russia we'd prolly all be working for the same home depot doing a very... disturbing version of clerks, the movie series.

mircea_popescu: it's ~how various countercultural things even existed in the first place.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467675 << no because http://trilema.com/2016/the-megawatt-standard/ ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:59 BingoBoingo: Use less electric? Seriously though they'd basically be paying you to exercise.

mircea_popescu: " One of the women allegedly offered an undercover officer money in exchange for a sexual act, resulting in an additional prostitution charge." << wait, she was going to pay HIM ?

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467827 dunno was grepping followers tweets for certain terms and that one popped up. Never heard of the guy. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 21:27 asciilifeform: shinohai: who's that ?

mircea_popescu: dude just how bad has this castration thing got in the us ?!

shinohai: Yeah and I see my Qntra mistake now, was hoping BingoBoingo could graciously edit, or I'll send in a rewrite.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467679 << omfg now i also wonder what's in bb's tobacco. this insanity coallesced in my head like that iconic cartoon scene of all the clocks going off, except you know... with loud obnoxious two stroke engines. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 16:02 BingoBoingo: Anyways, prolly ought to convert as many appliances as you can from electric to 2-cycle gas motors because Hitler hates their farts.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467681 << word. fucking abominable idiocy. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 16:03 asciilifeform: if there is any point at all to having civilizations that ban things, 2cycle ought to have long ago been placed where the spark gap radio is

trinque: https://www.youtube.com/embed/d157dfkKsa8 << I've got one for the self-castration thread

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whence teh hatred of funken ?

asciilifeform: i've nothing against the fella

asciilifeform: talking to him right now in the old ruins even

asciilifeform: re ecc vs rsa

asciilifeform: but was wondering why he isn't here.

asciilifeform: trinque: wtf is that

asciilifeform: can haz summary

trinque: portland community college "professor" proposes we pay infinite monies to vaguely defined category of downtrodden

asciilifeform: yeah but why is the camera on the floor..?

trinque: some guy wanted to post it to infowars I guess

trinque considers drinking every time she says "dialectic"

asciilifeform: they only accept footage from anal camera ?

trinque: seems appropriate I guess

trinque: anal camera captures woman offering up the collective european butthole

asciilifeform: that was a woman?!

trinque: wants to be at any rate

asciilifeform: speaking of woman, must resurrect old thread:

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466468 << important question that perhaps only mircea_popescu could answer: is there a 'background lactation' ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 13:23 mircea_popescu: bad crop, bad pose, what the fuck is it with the milkstained, nipple torn bra and so on.

asciilifeform: (would be, presumably, a small but continuous stream, to 'nimble the gears' or whatnot)

trinque: wouldn't blow my mind that the thing is not a perfect seal

trinque: what is on the human body?

asciilifeform: well it wouldn't be on account of poor seal

asciilifeform: but if the gland actually secretes some trace amount

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's some post-intoxication lactation.

mircea_popescu: but no, generally no such thing. note that the breast we all know and love is clinically known as the immature breast

mircea_popescu: the mature breast is quite a specific thing, and it needs a coupla months to occur, post partum.

asciilifeform: what'd be the mechanism where newborn kid of either sex sometimes lactates, then ?

mircea_popescu: it's not actual lactation though.

asciilifeform: in what sense not ?

mircea_popescu: witch's milk. see, when woman is about to deliver specific hormonal changes in her system drive the maturation of breast tissue.

mircea_popescu: they drive the maturation of ALL breast tissue, there's no targetting geographically, it's chem signalling

mircea_popescu: so in some cases tiny islands in child breast undergo same process. but it's brief and reverts naturally, without scarring

mircea_popescu: ie, the infantile cells are yet unspecialised, and for that reason react to the signal. in "true" lactation actual specialised tit tissue reacts.

asciilifeform: and what reacts in, e.g., grown man with pituitary tumour pissing out prolactin ?

mircea_popescu: adult tissue :) post puberty it's the same thing on either gender.

mircea_popescu: same reason males can get breast cancer etc.

mircea_popescu: in truth, human body is complex, but not uniformly sophisticated. some parts are ridiculous in their inept simplicity.