ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 20:30:50 trinque: asciilifeform: hm, boot flag on partition's set?
BingoBoingo: trinque: I do not have a concrete cremation plan yet. Magnesium blocks are not as ubiquitous here as in old country. Will be hitting up large 'big box' type operation tomorrow shopping packing supplies and will check their outdoors section.
BingoBoingo: trinque: As it stands the plan is destructively decap and then abrade chips before hammering.
BingoBoingo: I focused my search too much Sunday on the camping firestarter blocks.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll try not to let this consume too much time, but the destructive abrasive decapping of at least some of the NAND should be informative. Should be able to jump from 80 grit to take the plastic off to the diamond bits to ruin the lithography.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The logistics of that will be the last thing worked out.
BingoBoingo this week at the feria ended up walking out with just some arepas and one of those nylon web belts with the friction buckle
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: can you side mount more sockets?
BingoBoingo: Interesting. Sound like when they went shopping they were looking at buildings and the datacenter already happened to be there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Too old. Not (yet) a citizen.
BingoBoingo: And the military pay here is... Abysmal. By Uruguay standards. Director of the Hospital Militar makes 70,000 pesos a month, because that what his rank gets him. 35+ pesos to the dollar...
BingoBoingo: Privates/sailors get around 10,000 pesos a month which is below the minimum for any other activity in the country at 15,000 pesos
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well the Armada is also the coast guard. Lots of small boat for that. Also a Naval Infantry that does the motorcycle escort thing.
BingoBoingo: How they keep folks in though is they have a relatively lavish and unfunded "caja militar" for retirement
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: LACNIC does something similar, but LACNIC headquarters is also ~8 km away from chair for some awful reason.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA, I just peaked. Some /19s for sale apparently
lobbes: in logotronics news, I discovered a tiny bug in bot.py's debug toggle (of all places). the "if irc_dbg == 1" should be "if int(irc_dbg) == 1"
lobbes: (i.e. it wasn't parsing the "1" from the config, as it was reading it as a string. Thus couldn't properly toggle to debug mode.)
lobbes: Small fix, so I'll probably release a vpatch tomorrow for it. (about to fall asleep right now)
mp_en_viaje: listen to this inept shit : "Currently I will not mention the vendor by name here, as I do not yet know the quality of the service"
mp_en_viaje: your article has no LENGTHY EXPLANATION of the important fucking subject, "how the fuck i unfucked my head and stopped using google because google does nothing and here's what does and why and wherefore and what it means"
mp_en_viaje: you just make a throwaway side comment in log WHEN PROMPTED
mp_en_viaje: what the fuck is wrong with you, that your entire life must always hang on the most idiotic, immaterially irrelevant and utterly unrelated conditionals ?
mp_en_viaje: why thr fuck can't you just live ? why can't you be ? why does it always have to hang on whether the planets allign and the socks discolor into the right hue of pink and the tree leaves fall into your drink at the right time ?
mp_en_viaje: can't you just fucking do ANY THING without five hand holdings and nine proddings and what the fuck already.
mp_en_viaje: you've supposedly been reading each trilema article just as it came off the presses for YEARS, yet you're still doing the exact fucking opposite, both of what you see, of what you claim to like, and what you know to work.
mp_en_viaje: is this what, you got a hole in your head, are you reverso-doomed ?
mp_en_viaje: put the damn name in there, if nothing else it'll help you evaluate them. put everything in there. all the time. IT IS WHAT IT IS FOR.
mp_en_viaje: god gave you endless paper and you for your sins and to your detriment aim to economize it ? IT IS FOR WRITING UPON, WRITE UPON IT
mp_en_viaje: i would be much surprised if indeed a full ONE PERCENT of the dependencies you perceive/imagine/hallucinate are actual bona fide legitimate dependencies. you live your life in the
http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/ style ; naming some outfit doesn't depend on whether they're good, it depends on whether they're important, which they are already since you drove there. explaining what you did and why you did
mp_en_viaje: it is important because look at all the fucking morons who apparent;y can't do it. etcetera, stop hanging everything on unrelated nothing, it's the death of you.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 19:19:48 asciilifeform: ^ article will disappoint folx who wanted to see the coffee, board rooms, other 'imponade', these can show later if anyone gives a shit. so far just the goods.
mp_en_viaje: you mentioned them. TWICE -- once because ~they were important enough to show~ and then ONCE MORE to excuse the not showing. just how fucked in the head are you, srsly.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945725 << fwiw i had dozens of sticks hammered into inexistence. you want a 3-5kg hammer, the first 2-3 hits expose the chips no matter what, the plasticovers fly like insect elitrae. then the chips become dust in 2-3 more hits, can count 3-5 sticks dead / minute in qualified hammerer hands.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 21:47:28 BingoBoingo: trinque: As it stands the plan is destructively decap and then abrade chips before hammering.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 21:57:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the shithole is so impoverished that ~nuffin can be had, an oxypropane torch will work just as well.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 22:58:52 asciilifeform: nao, i do not yet know whether these people are Officially 'ixp'. but appears that serve a similar function, several regional isp are tied together there, and they can process bgpism, service client-owned ip real estate etc
mp_en_viaje: then will systematically eschew building relationships for 1-2-3y however long this lasts, through combination of above-examined "dependopotamacy" in your head, natural shyness and paranoia, and assorted other warts ; then when they implode it'll be pizarro all over again, no options and no clue.
mp_en_viaje: because why the fuck like some man you meet or buy a steak for some man you like or anything in the vein of life.
mp_en_viaje: gotta wait for hilary's second coming first, and THEN
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 23:05:11 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 more lul re dc expedition -- saw same thing as in uy, some folx have old pentium towers in'ere , plugged into white konsoomer mains strips. apparently this not only in orcistan.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 23:12:24 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last detail, ips are 2.34 $ ea. ( unless e.g. mp lends piece of ip .
mp do you want ? what wouldja like in exchange ? ) and 2 come 'phree' w/ the basic halftower.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 23:17:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: LACNIC does something similar, but LACNIC headquarters is also ~8 km away from chair for some awful reason.
mp_en_viaje: o no wait, i mean, ima go check the third decimal of my laser-temperature measurer, if it happens to be nine ima go walk up and down the hallway for exactly 4 minutes 44 seconds, if i count exactly 395 paces THEN ima tqake the sluts for breakfast.
mp_en_viaje: so im sitting there in the buffet breakfast area, with two girls standing on either side ready to serve, enjoying my tomcat perch, shooting gazes at all the other dudes, "oh, joe, no suit ?" "oh moe, where's YOUR slavegirls ?" until everyone's just eating with their head bent to the degree their face and their egg are contiguous media.
mp_en_viaje: TWO valets, WITH tits. a standard never before deployed in the history of feudalism. a duke might, MAYBE, get two pages, but that'd be just about it.
mp_en_viaje: in other sads, ~all of the czech republic has a massive connectivity issue ; no fucking internet in prague's worth the mention, my remote-over-telco links are just as bad because it's not tcp/ip level but actually telco level, and for some reason satcover here is shit right no
mp_en_viaje: nfi wtf, but horribru connectivity every which way, you'd think i moved to alaska.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 04:25:30 mp_en_viaje: listen to this inept shit : "Currently I will not mention the vendor by name here, as I do not yet know the quality of the service"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 22:01:35 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it aint 'properly' small tho. seems to be owned by some conglomerate.
'coloco'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 04:37:03 mp_en_viaje: you mentioned them. TWICE -- once because ~they were important enough to show~ and then ONCE MORE to excuse the not showing. just how fucked in the head are you, srsly.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 04:43:50 mp_en_viaje: then will systematically eschew building relationships for 1-2-3y however long this lasts, through combination of above-examined "dependopotamacy" in your head, natural shyness and paranoia, and assorted other warts ; then when they implode it'll be pizarro all over again, no options and no clue.
diana_coman: ie no identity, not "not enough testing"; and I promptly added their name as soon as maxim registered the key.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: dunno if that footnote sentence can be any clearer really; and re ^ uhmm, what??
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw yes, reading it I had this moment "wtf doesn't he name them" but no, I don't *always* shout, lol.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: anyway, since you are asking for it: what's with this "oh, but X also did it !!!" approach? it's unpleasantly reminiscent of primary school not to say worse.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: why not invite the main contact to meet in town out of office hours, what
diana_coman: he'll be out of livery so no brand too, plus can talk like normal people, can take picture etc
diana_coman: ha; so invite him to come on irc too, in #a or in #o if you prefer, what's the problem
diana_coman: asciilifeform: this is why I said invite them to irc rather than directly ask them to register key, lol; but sure, it's your show entirely
diana_coman: fwiw data centres here will rent lockable quarter/half/full racks from ~240, 350, 600 gbp, respectively; the saddest part being anyway the fact that they are still all quite same regimented style otherwise as far as I can see.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, good for you. and bear it in mind, you know ? there's nothing you can possibly say you'll regret later. the regrets always from not saying.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: usually they do, yes; and willing to eat ddos or so they claim
mp_en_viaje: in other news, ima spend the long weekend in budapest, after which ill be in prague all next week, if someone feels like dropping by the hotel's on me.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, precisely ; and even if you're scammed, or anything else. what, so you were scammed, who's gonna hold it against ~you~. as long as you behave rationally documentation's your friend. often, your only friend.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, just about, actually. i swear to god, this place is something else, wonderful night life, accomodation starvation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 10:20:58 asciilifeform:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945816 << in that shop, they dun ~sell~ blocks, but lease by the single ip. what was offered , is to connect with broker who sells. i inquired, min. purchase is /24 from their broker, at 6k usd. imho oughta comparison-shop before shelling out, price seemed astronomical ( am i rube ? always 6k ? )
mp_en_viaje: but i suspect this discussion is a lot like "is bitcoin worth it". if you can get one, in the sense of, yours, you want one. if you already have one not necessarily, but if you already have 0 then yes necessarily.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 23:14:30 asciilifeform: asciilifeform asked 'what if i want to buy own'. was shown jawdropping lulz where arin wants not only 'get on wait list' but 1000+ / yr in 'organizational maintenance fee' and +150/yr for each contig. block maintained etc.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: supposedly can get to it with own hands, yes (or possibly someone else using severed hand since "key + biometric")
mp_en_viaje: most serious outfits have dedicated ip wizard / greybeard, because it's arcana by now.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, traditional method is people buy the shell of co with reg and naught else.
mp_en_viaje: there's other alternatives and etc, it's srsly a whole cant.
mp_en_viaje: the one point i'm making here is that this is worth having if one's serious about their own ontology.
mp_en_viaje: leave your mark in this world. kill some of the boys born the same as year as you. hurt some of the girls. make a dent.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:00:42 diana_coman: asciilifeform: supposedly can get to it with own hands, yes (or possibly someone else using severed hand since "key + biometric")
mp_en_viaje: might eventually reverse, all it takes is one senate wank.
mp_en_viaje: item in question (from NSF General Counsel Lawrence Rudolph ) : NSF transferred a ‘thing of value’ to the awardee under the NSF-NSI Cooperative Agreement, and that awardee in turn gave it to you. …we [NSF] know of no provision under the Cooperative Agreement which would have authorized the awardee (NSI) to unilaterally reclaim IPv4 number blocks, once distributed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:06:29 asciilifeform: (speaking as almost complete ignoramus re subj) : mp_en_viaje do you know how 'well-behaved' is arin ? i.e. do they routinely confiscate ip blox from 'undesirables' the way the dns people do ?
mp_en_viaje: The NSF has never had a cooperative agreement, or any other agreement, with ARIN or any other similarly situated entity. In short, NSF does not believe that ARIN, or for that matter any other organization, could retroactively affect property and rights distributed to you (or any other recipient) by awardee NSI under its Cooperative Agreement with the National Science Foundation.
mp_en_viaje: pretty sure i have the whole thing somewhere, could fish it out and upload if you want.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, john curran & co whined long and hard about it, and will continue to do so until arin dissolved.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty, making sand with a 5lb hammer sounds like the right thing. Also fun.
mp_en_viaje: i did say 3-5kg as those are all i ever tried ; but a ladies' 5lb version prolly just as good, w=mv^2 after all
mp_en_viaje: in other horrors, i'm sitting here watching this other box literally cycle through interfaces. NOTHING WORKS. every 3-5 mins, reconnects to somethingelse.
mp_en_viaje: it's like the whole country's on dial-up, howthe fuck could they botch comms so badly these people.
BingoBoingo: I'll probably see what the 12 ouncer I flew in does outa curiosity.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, arin's bidniss is to get pissy, in fact
mp_en_viaje: they're like the eu parliament, kiddy/toy "institution" for no purpose than the having
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Still have to start producing new qntras, but indeed lives
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:23:19 mp_en_viaje: might eventually reverse, all it takes is one senate wank.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, it is a moving situation.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: an exact image copy of my piz rk would be great (saving the reinstall of all sorts)
diana_coman: tbh it did its blog-host job perfectly fine so far
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform diana_coman: Aite, I'll put it on the list.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Getting the sd will require re-opening the conversation with the Latecho folks.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm thinking I propose we sign some text to end the contract by mutual consent, this leaves open the opportunity to pursue damages for the breaches unless they start negotiating some compensation. At this point though I'm inclined to just get the stitches attaching my scrotum to them cut, but if you really want me to pursue damages I can try that but it will require as MP pointed out... time in to Uruguay to continue
BingoBoingo: That and picking a date to get the rest of the stuff out.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The one affiliated with the accountant has been busy with some sort of other litigation, and cleaning up the other things has slowed the search for alternatives.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They have been silent, presumably sweating since Friday.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've got a small pile of contact information to churn through. Challenge so far has been carving out concrete time to take conversations further than gathering contacts.
BingoBoingo: I concur with no further money into their piggy bank.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 21:50:30 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, nah, it reads like "legal told us we'll prolly end up paying through the nose and we told them we know better an' now gonna prove it! PEOPLE DO ANYTHING WE TELL THEM TO!!!"
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking something like: I propose we mutually end this contract. Here's a draft termination agreement for your consideration: [very basic mutual termination letter notably omitting any waiver holding them harmless for their breaches while including a waiver of all claims they may have/invent against me] and ask them what language and terms they want to include in the agreement to avoid "[
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10 BingoBoingo: -11#1944982][pursue the matter through the legal system, so as to bring you as close to never being able to perpetuate such in the future as at all possible]"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 21:49:27 BingoBoingo: The remaining months of the contract, if they'd performed would have grossed for them maybe enough for them to get an ancient VW "Kombi" in the local automotive market that may or may not run. Maxi's "we want to work in an amicable way to finish this contract" sounds a lot like they want to say "please pay us to term even though we have become non-performant" while at the same time betraying the lack of balls and/
BingoBoingo: Anyways, they have less time on their clock than I do.
BingoBoingo: And whatever "Force Majure" they try to claim with respect to internet weather can't indemnify them against their agents saying stupid and dishonest things.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If this were a truly lawless orcistan there'd be more pichis squatting in poured concrete structures and less camping outdoors
BingoBoingo: The civil and commercial codes were produced in a time when this country still had men and read thusly.
BingoBoingo: They seem to be counting on resignation and illiteracy.
BingoBoingo: The defensive reply from Friday suggests that is all. The man the put in charge of communicating with me has been neither candid nor honest. They also had the great misfortune of my walking in last Monday to see servers cooking, an incident that indicates they are not in fact running a datacenter by any recognized standard.
lobbes: achtung panzers: ^ above vpatch for debugger toggle only. (No pressing need to update your bot.py right now unless you plan to debug it in the near future.)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 not yet spoken, but asciilifeform 100% opposes any further movement of any kinda moneys ~into~ latech from piggy , on any pretext whatsoever. << Yeah, no more money for them.
mod6: I feel like the best we can hope for here is to tear up the remaining part of the contract, which, iirc, continues through the end of Feb. 2020.
mod6: Which, may be useful to have representation for such a discussion with the tards.
lobbes: you can't keep a good qntra down
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's
spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?