a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:10 mircea_popescu: but the deep reasdon europe is tiny is because there's ~no wilderness, everything's built up, you can walk from town to town in less than a day without exception (this is not coincidental, either, but deliberate, civilisational checkmark at a time before train was "from church to church in one day", and applied as such on us east coast for instance). there's roads everywhere, they're reasonably good (certainly better than neg
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:15 mircea_popescu: nuts. apparently it was a very shitty bridge, though i don't recall this being known/discussed at the time.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:54 ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl.
trinque: "nawlens" might be worth a peek, pockets of authentic weird still lurking about.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 18:24 mircea_popescu: that even runs in most browsers, does it ? .jre thing ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 23:58 asciilifeform: 'staging box' for newstuff
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:04 trinque: eh they're used to it
ben_vulpes: trinque: hey i like finding shitty bars in shitty neighborhoods and talking up the locals; don't want to live there
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i would like to pen the pets, this isn't quite the free-range wild wild west where i can brand them and expect them back later in the week
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 19:04 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes france is not nearly as much "in the eu" as you think, especially the occitan portion. morever, europe is tiny, vienna is a short drive away, the vienna of
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842767 ; and then hungary and serbia and so on.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu hails from lands where the children roam free, are eventually returned to their parents, right?
mircea_popescu: the notion that anyone'd want someone else's kids is not unlike the notion someone'd want someone else's mortgage, used tp, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik in texas it's "except if kid has red ryder"
ben_vulpes: oh no, this is a statal bezzle where the local cps takes "at risk" children and sells them to "foster care". statal human trafficking ring.
mircea_popescu: how do you like the republican corporate environment, ho ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 23:00 diana_coman: none of the links on bimbo.club work for me -> I can't leave a comment
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, its been another adventure :)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah ah, well i started on the fence *first* and then i decided to move.
nicoleci: asciilifeform, not exactly but sure lol
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not selling, leasing on, incomplete upgrades are a pretty serious ding in negotiation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think he can find a cheaper mexican than ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu warmly recommends slave labour, but i guess ben_vulpes stronghold not quite there yet
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, well yes Master but you introduced me to the field...lol
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, <mircea_popescu> nicoleci i thought you were a pisicologist.
ben_vulpes: girl in question has been admirably sinking holes, casting posts, hanging cladding.
ben_vulpes: ooh ooh; pisicologist ~='cuntologist'?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes but the idea is to have one in latex supervising 2-3 in the buff!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-30 13:21 mircea_popescu: an' finally, to be explicit rather than implicit : dear mats, while it's perfectly fine to be working with whichever lord you prefer to be working, if you don't enjoy working with me, but the place for that is in the respective castle.
ben_vulpes: horee shit mircea_popescu in stunna shades will wonders never cease
mats: if you want to do your own analysis, you can download a compressed tarball of the csv i created for your convenience here
http://merr.ourea.feralhosting.com/ct.csv.tar.gz with the rows n,e,pem_cert (you'll have to prepend&append "-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----\n", "\n-----END CERTIFICATE-----" to this field). i would grab this sooner than later, bill payment for this box stops Sep21
mats: i neglected to parse for extended attributes, so i expect this csv will come in handy sooner rather than later. the n will aid a faster zgrep, sorry for the trouble
mats: mircea_popescu: over the next couple months, i'm going to reproduce the esp8266 experiment linked yesterday, and try to identify an even lower usable power state
mats: depending on how that goes, i'll explore different power plants, and if THAT goes well, there's a gnat port to build future ffa-gossipd
mircea_popescu: so make one, that way you have where to put the story of that attempt, and we have what to link against.
hanbot: ^ of possible Mocky interest
Mocky: thx! will take a look
Mocky: 'depilation treatment' lol
mircea_popescu: that said, some field investigation of powerplants is actually quite sorely needed. i suspect there's a decent gap between words online and objects the chinese ship, exactly in the vein of hanbot 's story above.
mats: for the record, vultr and feralhosting were uncooperative regarding abuse complaints
mats: scaleway didn't give me any lip tho
mats: cause knocking on the door is criminal, or something
mats: sorry for the confusion, i got similar complaints for doing the ipv4 ssh/
http/https/ssl scans
mats: thats not my complaint above, just has identical wording. i can't see the original complaints, as accounts were banned by the various providers
lobbes: the weird thing (to me), is that it seems that I can -only- connect on port 5000 (which is the port I configured ZNC to use and the port through which I am speaking through -right now-)
lobbes: any ideas from anyone will be appreciated. I suspect znc is the culprit (problem started after setting that up) but I can't even diagnose without getting into the thing
lobbes off to sit on stake for 8 hours. bbl
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Do you want me to check your sshd_config?
BingoBoingo: I got hit with that error yesterday, rockchip was unresponsive to pings. Ended up pulling the drive, going over sshd_cofig and power cycling my Rockchip
BingoBoingo: Aite, going to caffinate a bit more. I would like to wait for lobbes to confirm the order.
lobbes: BingoBoingo, asciilifeform: sry about the radio silence; was in transit to $saltmines. I can confirm I'm fine with BingoBoingo working his magic on the box (Im also fine with the idea of paying a 'service fee', this was most likely my doing)
BingoBoingo: lobbes: ty, will head down soon then. Got another Qntra to squeeze out.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 13:21 asciilifeform: ( with /sbin/nologin as shell )
lobbes: BingoBoingo: take yer time. Im stuck in $mines for the next 7 hours or so anyways
Mocky: BingoBoingo, "to play *be* its own rulebook"
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-31 13:35 rkta: Αⅼlаh iѕ dഠiᥒɡ
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-31 06:35 mircea_popescu: Mocky i realise now i misspoke ; the idea is for the bot to stop when it sees the "you gain experience but don't seem to improve" message ; not when you level up a skill
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 19:00 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet is working through learning ru, and periodically succumbs to temptation of google translate as 'learning tool', with predictably lulzy result
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 13:21 asciilifeform: ( with /sbin/nologin as shell )
mircea_popescu: i expect, yes. 99% of the function is basically an irc proxy ; i expect 99% of the code is other dumb shit
mod6: Ok, so this whole pricing thing with Pizarro. (Thread begins here:
http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-31#419975). We've been discussing this for a few days now. And anyone who has month-to-month service has been made correct in their pricing for August, as well as anyone who has established new "Shared Hosting" in August (nicoleci).
mircea_popescu: evidently a lot of republicans, and even a bunch of lords use, so it'd be entirely not wasted effort if someone wants to flatten the ircbot into this role.
mircea_popescu: especiallty considering most people who run a bot also want a znc -- if most people who want a znc get a free bot in the process it won't hurt anything.
mod6: There are five (I previously thought there were four) accounts that have longer dated contracts, people who have signed up for a full year, or multiple months. We want to compensate those accounts for a mis-pricing posted since May 29th. The idea was to credit them 0.001 BTC/mo for June, July, and August.
mod6: Initially, I thought this was the right approach. But also could see that maybe, this wasn't square enough for longer dated contracts. However, this sets a bad precedent of reprincing active contracts if pricing or circumstances change.
mod6: mircea_popescu, for instance is paying for one of these for Mocky.
mod6: This one was setup on May 3rd, and goes through the end of 2018.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i really wouldn't bother ; prices can fluctuate, it's the nature of the beast, what are youi going to do, liquify all contracts and keep track of back and forth movements ? it's insanity.
mircea_popescu: the only thing it does is make accounting overexpensive.
mod6: I agree, it makes everything a nightmare really.
mircea_popescu: people sign up for what they sign up for ; if that changes it's one thing to give them the more favourable price going forward ; but you can't do this retroactive thing ?
mod6: I can see that too, Sir. I just wanna make sure we're doing the Right Thing (tm).
mircea_popescu: you seriously can't be sitting there spending hours on this pennies thing.
☟︎ trinque: if you're trying to guard reputation, all you need to do is communicate clearly about the mechanism, and be done with it.
trinque: and then yeah, go get some ads up or something much more important
mod6: trinque: Thank you, fair enough.
mircea_popescu: it seriously can not be worth your time, this. i mean we're talking 0.001 or something ? 'cmon.
mod6: Fair point, I just didn't want to judge if how much someones money is worth to them outright.
mod6: Without some considedration, anyway.
trinque: speaking for myself, I'm gonna be way crankier if I've got 0.3BTC of hardware down there that's suddenly homeless
trinque: than over w/e beer money on the shared hosting
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for the other fucking thing -- suppose the price went the OTHER way. what, you're gonna hit everyone with pesky small extra bills ?
mircea_popescu: people who don't want long term contracts, ie don't want the fx risk, don't get long term contracts. it's that simple really.
mod6: Well with that, I'm glad I brought this up in here. The guidence is going to be: Pizarro won't do anything at this time for existing contracts. Upon renewal, you'll pay the posted price.
mircea_popescu: as i'm 100% certain i'd have rejected a bill with the heading "see mp, it's more expensive nao than when we shook hands", i'm correspondingly 100% certain i don't care what happened. cuz that's why i'd have rejected it, "i don't care what happened".
mod6: I think I just needed some setting straight. I appreciate that.
diana_coman: mod6, as pizarro customer on a year-long contract I can confirm I do *not want* anything to be done; one upside of going longterm is precisely that it's set for some time and it doesn't require any additional ongoing attention essentially
mod6: Hi diana_coman! Thank you for your feedback.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-30 00:31 hanbot: q for the management --can i set up znc on UY3?
mod6: Hi, I've always stayed clear of znc, so have never used it myself. Let me take a look at what asciilifeform said above.
mod6: Regardless, we trust you to set it up and manage it -- It may be reasonable to find an alternative if one comes around that's suitble.
mod6: In your blog, you point out that you are using xchat. For me, since I use irssi (this might be helpful to others on the shared-environemt), it could be started up in a screen session, and simply ssh in attach your screen (or tmux?) to irc.
mod6: Or even a rockchip could be a good home for a remote irc boxen.
mod6: asciilifeform is our resident expert on these matters; are we still ok to let users run znc (at least for now)?
mircea_popescu: i suppose putting together a standard ircing recipe can't hurt anything
mod6: sure, but what about UY1?
mod6: Aha. hanbot did give us her port number
mod6: She's just making sure, since you noted what a pile of garbage it is.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-31 04:22 hanbot: i've got znc running on UY1:50321, ftr.
hanbot: yes, am connected thusly atm.
mircea_popescu: well yeah ; it doesn't include hwatever sbin setting you were discussing though. i guess leave as a comment.
mircea_popescu: "day and nigth power output of solar panel throughout the year is here : ; observe the full moon on y and the blood moon on z" and so fucking on.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-16 18:18 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform obtained and testing a LTC3108 , 'energy harvester', they've become cheapo
mircea_popescu: in field use ; for research, something that records voltages i guess
mircea_popescu: to get fancy can make something like ben_vulpes 's block follower, make it do hourly reports in a chan, review whenever
mircea_popescu: and by reporting it "live" as it were, solve all the data integrity problems etc.
mircea_popescu: certainly this counts as qualification for lab physicist. many ways available to introduce systematic errors.
mircea_popescu: but yes, judging by how ubiquitous "computer mouse thrown over power lines" are in urban environment (when it's not sneakers, at any rate) might be very practical approach -- put the inductive coil in the mouse cable ; and the transmitter in the body.
mircea_popescu: that's what i was going to say, you don't have to get THAT close. if air is no longer dielectric you're too close.
mircea_popescu: energy abundantly available well before you get that close.
mircea_popescu: can prolly even bury stuff along the lines. nobody will ever fucking find.
BingoBoingo: So I'm putting together my healthy 4 egg veggie scramble, and one of the eggs didn't have a yolk
mod6: jurov: how's it going with the move of the ML?
mod6: don't choke your chicken too hard
BingoBoingo: lol, I just can't believe this chicken I've never met cheated my out of the good stuff
trinque: !!v E783E315B43F405D3C8C6F78BCA856C021A0451C4E44E4049C89A760640BEC6B
deedbot: trinque paid mod6 invoice 5
trinque: hey mod6, when's the next auction?