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pete_dushenski: are those unable to effectively scavenge reduced to cargo cultism ? is that the divide going forward ?
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 23:53:26; mircea_popescu: ving away from a "frontier" worldwiew and toward a "cargo cult"/scavenger world view. consequently the notion that new things can be made is being gradually abandoned.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324951 << i'm sure i'm not the only one who appreciate and benefit from an expansion of this point. for myself, particularly the "cargo cult" element is one that's not immediately apparent. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ving away from a "frontier" worldwiew and toward a "cargo cult"/scavenger world view. consequently the notion that new things can be made is being gradually abandoned. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and we're talking about well-heeled families, not cargo !
ascii_field: aha why give cargocultist a real airplane?!!1
asciilifeform: today - yes. it transitioned to the spamatronic cargo cult phase
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] Links 2015-10-31 Sat: self-driving cars, short fiction, Nigerian lolz, ship photos, Volkswagen's embroilment in ship engine number fudging, planes landing on cargo ships, the Palestinian Authority and more! - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/01_links-2015-10-31-sat-self-driving-cars-short-fiction-nigerian-lolz-ship-photos-volkswagens-embroilment-in-ship-engine-number-fudging-planes-land
assbot: An Artist Residency Aboard a Cargo Ship ... ( http://bit.ly/1jKtoJ4 )
punkman: http://hyperallergic.com/167446/an-artist-residency-inside-the-hidden-world-of-a-cargo-ship/ for any aspiring artists around here
ascii_field: i suspect there is a 'cargo cult' aspect - they can see other people laugh, and say 'i could also laugh!'
ascii_field: http://as-e.com/products-solutions/cargo-vehicle-inspection/mobile/product/zbv-with-tx-view << standard, not just backscatter, xray
ascii_field: http://as-e.com/products-solutions/cargo-vehicle-inspection/mobile/product/zbv << go, buy! product!
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 03:22:38; asciilifeform: but how is this a cargo cult? what i'm seeing is a very small but functioning airplane
asciilifeform: but how is this a cargo cult? what i'm seeing is a very small but functioning airplane ☟︎
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : cargo cult is what savages / pacific islanders / subhuman monkeys do as a reaction to exposure to actual hjuman beings and their civilisation.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-10-2015#1296367 << the part that looks like 'lying' is actually a cargo cult thereof. ☝︎
BingoBoingo lives a county away from Airforce Base, see a lot of cargo haulers and the decoy air force one fleet often
ascii_field: 'Anderson refused to cooperate with prosecutors unless the CIA was present. Anderson wanted to be released from jail, Rosenblum said in court, and “he would literally lead (Davis) to warship-sized cargo of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars; he could lead Mr. Davis to connections in the Middle East involving pharaohs and kings.”' << win
ascii_field: it is a cargo cult in a very literal sense
ascii_field: also it is a (solely psychiatrically!) interesting cargo cult. for instance, the most successful scams had video posted of a '3d printer' going, going...
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 11:25:07; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2015#1290441 << this is generally the heuristic for a good place inhabited by smart people. when you're among derps happy to be there you're on a sinking cargo cultship.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290756 << myup. and waaay too many kids in north america, be they full size or as yet to sexually mature, are in the happy happy happy cargocamp. it's pretty sad. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2015#1290441 << this is generally the heuristic for a good place inhabited by smart people. when you're among derps happy to be there you're on a sinking cargo cultship. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak ☟︎☟︎
jurov: cargocult? what did they imitate?
ascii_field: btw the masons - at least the ones that can be met with in usa - are perhaps the ultimate cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: lol fuyll cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: teenaged kids with whoremongering fathers often borrow the cars those drive in an attempt to cargo-cult the whores they bang into existence. perhaps they could be embodied out of their classmates or something.
asciilifeform: 'The aircraft is manned by a crew of four—pilot, copilot and two flight engineers—and can carry as many as 32 troops or 20,000 pounds of cargo. Or, in the case of the President's jaunt to Martha's Vineyard last Saturday, a contingent of White House staffers, journalists, and Bo, the president's pooch. But not the president himself. No way, he's not allowed anywhere near this thing.'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is no deep secret that the 'shelter industry' was largely part cargo-cult, part 'i wanna build a wine cellar without wife bitching'
phf: asciilifeform: it's a cargo cult. my understanding is that japanese use manga as illustrated prose. situation with japanese culture in u.s. american u.s. culture around anime/manga is essentially "let's read furniture assembly manuals, then read some yukio mishima, then watch cellphone instructional video for 12 yr/old girls, because superior culture of japan!"
assbot: Tarantula Deadly Cargo - Sleaford Mods - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OPK2ju )
asciilifeform: it is a result of the kind of cargocultism driven by justified and maniacal fear that leads, e.g., c programmers to pepper their code with redundant parenthesis
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2014 01:03:00; asciilifeform: 'Industry is the only true source of wealth, and there was no industry in Rome. By day the Ostia road was crowded with carts and muleteers, carrying to the great city the silks and spices of the East, the marble of Asia Minor, the timber of the Atlas, the grain of Africa and Egypt; and the carts brought nothing out but loads of dung. That was their return cargo. London turns dirt into gold. Rome turne
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 03:06:30; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214249 << astonishing hipster idiocy. just like, e.g., 'hemingwriter'. ('let's make laptop shaped like typewriter! that'll bring western civilization back!') idiot cargocultists. 'let's omit all, even the few useful features like 'who called' from cell phone! that'll bring the 1950s and american industry back!'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214249 << astonishing hipster idiocy. just like, e.g., 'hemingwriter'. ('let's make laptop shaped like typewriter! that'll bring western civilization back!') idiot cargocultists. 'let's omit all, even the few useful features like 'who called' from cell phone! that'll bring the 1950s and american industry back!' ☝︎☟︎
trinque: isis is a cargo cult thinking allah will bring them more russian or american weapons if they piss in the wind some more
mircea_popescu: it's so wrong it's not even cargo cult.
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:22:02; mircea_popescu: and THAT is where taleb engages traditionalism - where it matters. nobody is still left at the wheel who can talk back, so nobody does, all that's left is a cargo cult of the dead st. thomas, trudging along.
mircea_popescu: and THAT is where taleb engages traditionalism - where it matters. nobody is still left at the wheel who can talk back, so nobody does, all that's left is a cargo cult of the dead st. thomas, trudging along. ☟︎
asciilifeform: could have something to do with the cargo-cult, 'stotting' aspect of advertising per se
asciilifeform: there is a kind of cargo cult appeal to the things
mircea_popescu: Defense spending analyst Winslow Wheeler concluded from flight evaluation reports that the F-35A "is flawed beyond redemption"; in response, program manager General Chris Bogdan suggested that pilots worried about being shot down should fly cargo aircraft instead.
mircea_popescu: which in turn reduces to cargo-cultish supersecurity.
asciilifeform: usually just blind cargocultism.
asciilifeform: utter, complete cargo cult.
ascii_field: civilwar cargocult
Pierre_Rochard: often better than them trying to reinvent the wheel, that’s when you get some real cargo culting
mircea_popescu: cargo cultism at its most base. "well we don't have a mechanic, but all the toolboxes are here and open just like he would have had them, were he here"
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: it is precisely like the spam cargo cult
ascii_panama: cargocult.
mircea_popescu: amps should be a restricted fucking export. buncha native retards and their cargo cultishness bejeezuz.
asciilifeform: the fact of the matter appears to be (ben_vulpes and his experiment, etc) that the folks who pay for ads are largely the old cargo cultists and have very little to do with bitcoin, for perfectly logical reasons of it being a bugspray against their species
mircea_popescu: people became intellectually enamoured with it and keep spouting it everywhere, as a sort of cargo-cult bitcoin "knowledges"
asciilifeform: i can even imagine cargo-cult masochists
decimation: note the couriers watching the pouch cargo personally
asciilifeform: by vienna convention (1815 iirc) diplo couriers are permitted to treat any attack upon their cargo or person as an act of war
Chillum: Semi-submersible latches onto side of cargo ship below the water lines, gets carried
asciilifeform: purpose is as much to drive the enemy mad faster, as to preserve any cargo
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065371 << different height different distance different usable cargoload.
asciilifeform: mike_c: did you actually think the rng was the cargo? rng was exhibited at C-II
asciilifeform won't have useful cargo, sadly
asciilifeform: re: post office idiocy: i fully expect that before the era of usg is over, 'serenissima' cargo will routinely travel with real-time ir camera (and 'glonass') feed from inside the box.
trinque strokes the cargo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cpu bitcoin miner would barely make any satoshi << cargocult
asciilifeform: re: border searches - interestingly, if your cargo doesn't look like consumer electronics, the inspectors tend to ignore it (granted that it doesn't pattern-match 't3rr0r1s7!!!111')
asciilifeform: resulting in lifetime cargoaddiction
asciilifeform: cargo cult
asciilifeform: they pass unmolested - and the cargo travels on, on land - at lizardhitler's pleasure.
asciilifeform: nor is a 300km accuracy cone acceptable for most cargo other than nuke
asciilifeform: and cargokultism
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1036529 << cargo society. ☝︎
asciilifeform: open for usg to roam freely << the rocket train was disguised (thinly) as a cargo train and went on ordinary rail
asciilifeform: there is a legend, based on released usg docs of reasonable plausibility, that usg knew where the trains were at various times by sneaking neutron counters into passenger/cargo rail
asciilifeform: as in, if flying a pilotless machine from washington to new york is punishable with life at hard labour, the cargo may as well be cocaine
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski basically what i see is a cargo cult generation. if you've ever seen monty python's twit of the year sketch that's basiclaly the idea.
mircea_popescu: it is more a function of people being removed from the means of production than anything. no living thing will ever accept its pointlessness. as such, cargo cults and mud pies everywhere.
asciilifeform: but at least started with vaguely correct cargo.
asciilifeform: cargo cult.
pete_dushenski: precious cargo
asciilifeform: the part that's puzzling is - a classical cargo cult has 'the airplane flies', or an analogous prayed-for outcome
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, back when there was a roughly similar 'messianic' cargo cult around pgp (the original pgp) - the folks involved more or less missed all the interesting implications of their toy.
BingoBoingo: Well many small towns maintain libraries gifted in another act of monopolist largesse, but similarly the handling of those gifts has decayed in a cargo-cult manner.
decimation: asciilifeform: doesn't it feel like a cargo cult around an os that was handed down by betters?
decimation: except in actually moving cargo & humans
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's more of a cargo-cultapproach to this science ("i know it's strong because this is how the doctors use it")
ben_vulpes: this is not cargo cult deconstruction - this is taking the time to do a thing correctly.
asciilifeform: sticks and straw for cargo cult - amazing business.
asciilifeform: plenty of would-be pilots for the wooden cargo-cult airplane.
mircea_popescu: reddit is cargo /b/ basically.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's the most humorous use of "cargo cult" i ever saw,
asciilifeform: dietary cargo cults are mega-lulz.
Vexual: thanks, that cargo plane look sexy
decimation: yeah, I guess in this case the 'cargo-cult' is building a wooden global namespace
asciilifeform: cargo-cult imitation of real computer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: virtually the whole of the turdware world has, for some years, been accounted for by cargocult l4m3rs who 'license' a turd (why? because, even building a ready tarball found wherever - is far beyond their intellectual level)
gribble: Cargo 200 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200>; Cargo 200 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200_(film)>; Cargo 200 (2007) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0847880/>