joecool: *shrugs* stranger things have happened
mircea_popescu: these people and their narcissistic delusions of self importance.
Bagels7: Hi bingoboingo, im not even verified, and deleted my key and im on windows!
mircea_popescu: he can never ruin an uppetite. for even if he ruins one, he has another coming right after!
wpalczynski: what do you guys make of this btc rise? any new behind it?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 53 minutes ago ... (
http://bit.ly/1CtSH6l )
wpalczynski: what are they talking about? how can one share be trading at 185k?
TheNewDeal: ;;later tell TomServo I'm in town this evening, out tomorrow morn. Will be back thursday
wpalczynski: ive just never seen a share of any company worth nearly that much
mircea_popescu: well, berkshire is kind-of famous for this reason. you never heard of it ?
wpalczynski: ive heard of some alleged scams associate with it
BingoBoingo: Japanese companies tend towards similarly high share prices because of a lack of splits
Bagels7: so i was reading trilema.com, just gets me wound up sometimes
Bagels7: how are there no "happy postop transsexuals"
Bagels7: yeah but they call themselves women not transsexuals
Bagels7: yes, mainly them i had in mind
mircea_popescu: well, i guess maybe you're better connected in the group than me. i mostly know clinicians.
Bagels7: okay so i heard that there are some who lose their sex drive and become some sort of bitter bitch but they must have been the ones that were confused or coherced
Bagels7: I never asked but I might assume they miss having a dick
mircea_popescu: well, i would imagine if they actually aim to be female they'd miss having a cunt more than having a dick.
assbot: Looks like over 80% of Bitcoin Foundation members are not allowed to vote in the current election - including several candidates & current board members. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/19iWbPm )
assbot: Bg002h comments on Looks like over 80% of Bitcoin Foundation members are not allowed to vote in the current election - including several candidates & current board members. ... (
http://bit.ly/19iWv0t )
mircea_popescu: well, whadda they want, bitcoin scam foundation sold lifetime seats and ran out of money. of course it's not gonna honor them
hanbot: i guess "unactivated" is the socially acceptable term for nonhuman. and here i thought it was the concept itself that bothered folks.
decimation: yeah I like the surprisingly reactionary 'election'
decimation: except for the part where they pass it off as a fair election
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the funniest part is the notion that anyone gives a shit what comes out of it.
decimation: like the soviets, they probably are going to pick the guy who is 'least likely to surrender to the foundation'
hanbot: mircea_popescu not inasfar as unactivated virii implies knowable potential
mircea_popescu: it's just infantilism. girlie trying to test the limits of her world.
mircea_popescu: it's unhealthy for said world to just infinitely give way in all directions all the time. at least some of the time she has to come face flat against a stone wall.
BingoBoingo: And seriously spz safewords are a thing red is a horribru one. Now Balloon or "I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive" might have some potential.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole construction's fucking irresponsible. for one thing, the subject's not in any position to evaluate anything. there are specific, well documented, well understood biological mechanisms that prevent a sane evaluation.
mircea_popescu: if you handling the cane can't tell when she;s had enough, her with the bruises and marks CERTAINLY can't.
BingoBoingo: Red is one of the worst imagineable for the purpose. It does nothing to break the context of the situation and fits in too many contexts appropirate to the situation. It's like a trailer park feeding trough using icecream as its safe word to get gluttons to leave.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the entire fucking point of the exercise is for the sub/slave to SUBMIT. not to constantly feed the red herring of "individual self determination"
mircea_popescu: not that i've actually met a woman seriously into bdsm that was all derpy with this atomic consent bs anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's mostly the avatar of teenagers that wish to pretend they're adults, and make up their parallel adult world to inhabit.
mod6: yeah, im sure i did.
mod6: dynamically linked ~18mb, statically linked (that didn't work) ~28mb
mod6: that was on obsd. which subsequently coredumped on execute
mod6: so ~10mb /difference/
mod6: im still wrestling with trying to compile bitcoind on linux with statically linked libs & objects.
mod6: no, havnet tried it. ben is building it currently actually. thanks.
mod6: BingoBoingo: ah, yeah cool. :]
BingoBoingo: I also killed the block files and block index with my build today to test syncing again. Almost to 16801 again.
BingoBoingo: This run with a 4GB process RAM limit it hasn't crashed yet. Just crossed the 512 MB line around block 153000
mod6: *nod* i wanna say that mine usually blows up around like 200-230k or w/e
BingoBoingo: Well I'll report what happens when I get to March 2013 again
mod6: (always past the last checkpoint, but usually before 252450)
BingoBoingo: I was at late Feb 2013 though when I killed my stuff to sync again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2681 @ 0.000755 = 2.0242 BTC [+]
decimation: "Federal regulators plan to propose rules that would limit commercial drone flights to below 500 feet, daytime hours and within sight of the operator, while also requiring operators to pass written exams, according to a federal document posted online Friday."
decimation: they've been 'working' on these rules for more than 4 years and this is what they come up with? the status quo?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I might give that a go next time
decimation: in case folks are unfamiliar, usg claims the air on 'your' land starting at 0 feet
decimation: yeah as if people are going to pay usg to fly their 'aircraft' at 500 feet within sight of the operator
decimation: the whole point of the 'drone license' was that somehow drones would be able to fly farther
decimation: maximal bureaucratic ass covering plus 'anarchotyranny'
decimation: ie 'anarchy for those who choose to thumb their nose at the law', tyranny for anyone who desires to comply
decimation: yeah usually the way the term is used, the 'anarchy' group is associated with privileged classes to whom the law does not practically apply
decimation: BingoBoingo: the splc is one of the official 'victim' group selectors
decimation: asciilifeform: what does the ru version say?
decimation: "“Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS. Just kidding. I’m white!”
decimation: She chuckled to herself as she pressed send on this last one, then wandered around Heathrow’s international terminal for half an hour, sporadically checking her phone. No one replied, which didn’t surprise her. She had only 170 Twitter followers."
decimation: "Sacco boarded the plane. It was an 11-hour flight, so she slept. When the plane landed in Cape Town and was taxiing on the runway, she turned on her phone. Right away, she got a text from someone she hadn’t spoken to since high school: “I’m so sorry to see what’s happening.” Sacco looked at it, baffled."
decimation: well, it's our old friends at valleywag
decimation: "It’s possible that Sacco’s fate would have been different had an anonymous tip not led a writer named Sam Biddle to the offending tweet. Biddle was then the editor of Valleywag, Gawker Media’s tech-industry blog. He retweeted it to his 15,000 followers and eventually posted it on Valleywag, accompanied by the headline, “And Now, a Funny Holiday Joke From IAC’s P.R. Boss.”"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56200 @ 0.00039092 = 21.9697 BTC [+]
decimation: then the author takes the occasion to rail against whippings and pillories from 200 years go
mircea_popescu: but good for the sheeple to find out that okcupid and tinder are owned by the same thing.
decimation: "The movement against public shaming had gained momentum in 1787, when Benjamin Rush, a physician in Philadelphia and a signer of the Declaration of Independence, wrote a paper calling for its demise — the stocks, the pillory, the whipping post, the lot. “Ignominy is universally acknowledged to be a worse punishment than death,” he wrote. “It would seem strange that ignominy should ever have been adopted as a milder punishment
decimation: than death, did we not know that the human mind seldom arrives at truth upon any subject till it has first reached the extremity of error.”"
mircea_popescu: (and apparently is no longer buddies with gawker media)
decimation: it neatly connects the libtards of 1776 with the libtards of today
mircea_popescu: now, the real journo story : how deep a discount did gawker offer on their advertising, who said no, why did they say no.
decimation: and which new york jew now owns the whole thing?
mircea_popescu: "oh, IAC said our deeply discounted CPM is not worth paying for anyway because we don't have any actual relevancy / power online ??!?!?!"
decimation: mircea_popescu: there's no mention of this obvious motivation in the story
mircea_popescu: parallel construction is apparently a universal hobby. "tipsters" ? what tipsters. nobody fucking tips gawker.
mircea_popescu: except it doesn't actually do anything. gawker is entirely myspace'd.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re portotronic, what's the right thing to do with CROSS_PREFIX for non-arm builds? omit from script entirely?
mircea_popescu: its audience is idiots, and this is publicly known. so...
decimation: apparently it's enough for the new york times to get an independent op-ed
mircea_popescu: anyway, in vaguely related news, i'm preparing a pretty lulzy "outrage the feminists" thing for later.
mircea_popescu: decimation : "independent op ed" = "piece written for narcissist that we didn't have to pay'
decimation: actually, the whole thing smacks of doctor_why_bother
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha. in the middle of it already.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CFLAGS should read something like -I/usr/include ?
ben_vulpes: thanks for the patience, much of this is over my head. but what better way to contaminate my mind with the c toolchain than bitcoind
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> use the expected values for your machine. << ahahaha "expected values" ahaha as if
ben_vulpes: ruby as necessary to unfuck other people's mistakes.
Adlai prefers "this is shit, let me do it in lisp"
Adlai: excellent way of screening clients
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: other people in the shop use the apple toolchain and the android toolchain. all i ever do with those is "turn the right nut" when it comes to "signing" binaries for apple/google and cutting builds.
ben_vulpes: the apple binary signing process is hilaribad.
ben_vulpes: they're not real keys, as far as i care.
trinque: I switced the deedbot blockchain to an ssd ebs volume
decimation: re: apple compilers < i wasted a few hours last week trying to get macports to build 'octave'
decimation: turns out gcc4.9 would not link properly with the osx standard c++ library
ben_vulpes: decimation: i've wasted 3 days over the past two weeks trying to get a modern browser to boot into x11 for os x.
ben_vulpes: i've more or less given up at this point.
trinque: ben_vulpes: dual boot the gentoos
trinque watches atop -d... what the hell is btcd reading at a sustained 4mb/sec
trinque: and how does it need anything but the top of the blockchain
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2015 02:25:58; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: realize that the obscene memhunger is 99+% bastard blocks
decimation: asciilifeform: does the same company sell the sought-after toilet/kitchen sink combo?
decimation: of course, in comparison what what was suffered in ru's gulags, such an arrangement is quite luxurious
trinque: anyone have a high bandwidth node I can give to deedbot to speed his ass up?
decimation: ^ this might actually be qntra worthy if someone puts the right spin on it
BingoBoingo: decimation: Are you volunteering? If not I can write something up
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CXXFLAGS=-O2 -std=c++03 -> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -O3 << is this braindamage of my own design?
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 05:48:59; asciilifeform: 2) added c++03 flag, my crosscompiler spewed chunder without it
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> where'd ya get the O2 O3 combo << shlomiel moment
decimation: lol asciilifeform >"If this strikes you as absurd, does it strike you as even more absurd that people claim something to be a problem when its "solution" is as obvious as it is ridiculous? (Or is it really that ridiculous? Farm subsidies exist. Why not FarmVille subsidies?)"
decimation: where's my farmville subsidies? has congress passed the farmville bill yet?
decimation: lol "An owner of a 3D printer recently told me that "having one really exposes the impotence of… not having one. For instance, I needed this little thingie to hold a shelf. Took 30 minutes to design and print. And where would I get it otherwise?!" The answer, of course, is "at a nearby store" where they have a box full of these thingies at about 20 cents apiece. Of course, in a couple thousand years, his investment in the 3D printer
decimation: will repay itself though the continuous printing of thingies."
decimation: of course, printing something structurally critical like a bracket holding weight is a great application for weakass-plastic 3d printing
ben_vulpes: it ain't under vibratory load or anything
decimation: so you gotta wonder how long it took the guy to dick around with his winblows cad software to create a bracket
ben_vulpes: although the notion that you can design any 3d part of any utility without inventor or solidworks is pretty lulzy
ben_vulpes: it has been a few years since i looked at the "open" cadcam "solutions".
ben_vulpes: last time i checked the answer to "assemblies?" was "lolwut" and i stopped paying attention.
decimation: yeah my understanding is that solidworks is kind of the 3d hill and autocad is king of the 2d hill
ben_vulpes: that you gotta check against single dimension approximations to make sure it's not haring off into impossiblespace
decimation: ben_vulpes: do either of those systems accept 'scripting' inputs, such that you could describe the parts with a textual interface?
ben_vulpes: decimation: they both support defining parts parametrically.
ben_vulpes: and in fact that is how good part design should be done.
ben_vulpes: i wasn't programming when i was a hot modeler.
ben_vulpes: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction.
decimation: I mean that the brain's language 'co-processor' (as ascii desribed it) can be used
decimation: well, there's certainly a 'does it fit' aspect that is visual
ben_vulpes: decimation: it's actually very fast and intuitive once you've learned the interfaces.
ben_vulpes: 6-axis doolie to move the object around in space; select faces and planes on which to draw shapes and sweep/extrude them through space.
ben_vulpes: "does it fit" << doubly so in the context of assemblies.
decimation: asciilifeform: made a comment on that post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79200 @ 0.00038439 = 30.4437 BTC [-]
decimation: I certainly can describe a bolt as 'Hex bolts, Stainless steel 18-8, 1/4"-20'' and have a pretty good idea of what I mean
decimation: asciilifeform: what software would you recommend to create an easily purchased bracket from inappropriate materials?
decimation: asciilifeform: actually in that scott locklin comment thread he brings up labview, which I'm sure you are familiar with
decimation: I find his idea that someone actually uses labview for something other than to waste the taxpayers' time & money amusing
decimation: really? why bother with the layers of turdware?
decimation: Because there's very little I can imagine labview can do that couldn't be replaced with a few hundred lines of "c" and the labview driver library
decimation: yeah that makes sense. as I recall as a youth in school, it was used as kind of a proto-powerpoint
decimation: except they cost $, are not reliable, and are less useful than hypercard was
decimation: including one 'have you tried labview' lol
ben_vulpes: the best part about labview is how once a person builds a reasonably complex thing in it they and only they can really understand where all the pipes go and where all the data is and how control moves around
ben_vulpes: one of the things that gently nudged me into my current slavery
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'trololol' < i suppose that part sheets, dimensional tolerancing and what have you are part of my base assumptions for part fab.
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I think the best explanation for 'why hypercard had to die' is that apple discovered that you could sell software to chumps at huge profit, whereas actually competing on hardware is a low-margin miserable business
ben_vulpes: i can't recall if i ever bumped into freecad.
decimation: I think I used it a little while, it mostly works
ben_vulpes: oh jesus this is going to be like gimp isn't it
ben_vulpes: every little feature squireled away a million menus down
decimation: yeah that's exactly what I thought when I opened it
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you ever worked with photoshop, illustrator et al?
ben_vulpes: and i mean for hours, weeks at a stretch?
decimation: there's another angle to the 'open source cad' thing: autocad refuses to release the spec for their full-feature 'save' files
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and did you spend a similar amount of time attempting to 'work' the same way in 'the gimp'?
ben_vulpes: (subject of the portatron: "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus) ")
ben_vulpes: i'd no idea that compiling a static bitcoind would take quite so much memory. then again, it's loading all of boost and dbb and openssl - does all of the above need to reside in memory at the same time?
decimation: it could swap on a hard drive at extreme performance penalty
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the only pills i'm aware of are pouring capital into refining the interface and training the intended customers.
ben_vulpes: aside from having the thing actually be programmable, but that's apparently a nonstarter in our world.
ben_vulpes recompiles on local vm with actual beef to it.
ben_vulpes: wolfram worked with feynman at Thinking Machines?!
ben_vulpes: Whenever it came time for his daily bowl of soup he would look around for the nearest "girl" and ask if she would fetch it to him. It did not matter if she was the cook, an engineer, or the president of the company. I once asked a female engineer who had just been a victim of this if it bothered her. "Yes, it really annoys me," she said. "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040115 = 15.4042 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: decimation: of course, printing something structurally critical like a bracket holding weight is a great application for weakass-plastic 3d printing << yes, because hopefully it falls on his head.
Vexual: Reminds me of some aussie cops spending 10k on a printer and 9bux on a roll pf cornstarch to show how a liberator will take your fingers orf
Vexual: Theyre busy investigating all the unwarranted bugging by the internal affairs of the next commissioner now. Printers prolly gone
BingoBoingo: Vexual: The Buggering bu Internal Affairs you say?
Vexual: Dunno. Makes me think that things McAfee says aren't nessisarily because of bath salts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5589 @ 0.00073773 = 4.1232 BTC [-] {20}
Vexual: Perhaps politics amd sculldugerous corruption are inseprable
Vexual: More likely noone actually knows whats happening
BingoBoingo: Well, the person getting buggered probably has an idea
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punkman: "An owner of a 3D printer recently told me that "having one really exposes the impotence of… not having one." << it's a great timesink, especially if you enjoy flapping your hands wondering why the fuck it's not printing or why it's on fire again
Vexual: Sounds a lot like the police commissioners job
punkman: also, not only do you have to learn to CAD, but most CADs just don't work for things you want to 3D print
punkman: and then there's the G-code slicer
punkman: oh what a wonderful world that is
Vexual: Poor lady had so many more police holes than baddie holes in hostages in the recent terry wrist thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00038309 = 16.3963 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: So does a 3d printer make you get better at cad?
punkman: maybe, if you aren't spending all your time trying to keep printer level
Vexual: Like the builder who presents a nice archicad flythru then blames the concreter for everything that follows
punkman: "Insufficient rights, punkman, !up yourself on PM first." but why
Vexual: I've always wanted a makerbot
punkman: makerbot is an inch closer to "just works"
Vexual: They look like they're getting crapper for ease of use
Vexual: I just wanna run any material and stuff is adjustable
Vexual: I mean easier to use at the expense of actually working well
punkman: I'm gonna try again in 2016
Vexual: Hopefully ba has a thingiverse better by then
BingoBoingo: What does a 3D printer actually fix that a roll of Duct tape doesn't fix faster and better?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122300 @ 0.00038384 = 46.9436 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: Its about arranging things correctly
Vexual: A well designed shelf bracket will be better and stronger than the hardware shop equivalent
Vexual: You can have holes that fit the screws you own
Vexual: Or sign to say you have a copy of some turgid dick in abs
BingoBoingo: I thought the hole was supposed to adapt to the screw
Vexual: yeah you print the hole to suit
punkman: I don't want it to fix things, that's nonsense
Vexual: Yah can duct tape anything its true. But it's nice when shit works properly
Vexual: Remember when fluffypony made mining rig racks from aluminum section?
BingoBoingo: 211165 and still going on latest sync test. Will try to ride this one to the present
BingoBoingo: At least fluffypony learned his lesson about shipping stuff via boat
BingoBoingo: And about opening sales to the lowest common denominator
Vexual: What happened with the ocean surface?
fluffypony: Vexual: yeah, the cheapskates that chose surface mail had to wait 3 months for their stuff to arrive
punkman: fluffypony: did the usg agent choose surface mail too?
Vexual: It really seems anyone in the game is doing the same thing they did 2 yeats ago
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: What are you running bitcoin on?
Vexual: Did vulpes try compile on ppc? Or does he only run intel macs?
punkman: bitcoind doesn't run on ppc
Vexual: I just read 3 days on x and project ed
punkman: BingoBoingo: not sure, I was looking at some recent patches for big-endian support though
BingoBoingo: Just because it doesn't compile as offered doesn't mean and can't be beat into it.
BingoBoingo: Haven't tried don't have any PPC macs around at the moment
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: What about setting a process memory usage limit and scripting the restart process after it gets killed?
Vexual: I stopped buying macs when they went intel
Vexual: They are glittery worky nao tho
Vexual: I guess x11 is the sameish
Vexual: still it rots somewhere like steves stonewash, feigning importance
Vexual: An affliction that unburdened by
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55100 @ 0.00037987 = 20.9308 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, you can restart it nao. The memory consumption was fatherless bastard blocks. Should restart with low RAM usage before creeping up and needing killed again. This can be repeated until you reach the present.
Vexual: What are you running it on thestringpuller?
thestringpuller: Was an old gaming rig now turned server cause it has SATA/IDE/SCSI
Vexual: Thatd have cost a pretty penny
Vexual: Back in the day. Crossroads of storage
thestringpuller: yea, but i guess problem is if this computer is slow at getting current block this raising blocksize thing ain't gonna fly
thestringpuller: I've never used the built in raid controller. I dunno if I could find the software needed to run it that way since I'm pretty sure the mainboard company is now defunct ~_~
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Vexual: How many meg blocks are even?
Vexual: Miners seem to prefer 250k
Vexual: Yad need some friends and private fibre to mine 20 meg block
Vexual: The block reward gets smaller, fees will come into it
Vexual: Who will wait around for 1 meg?
Vexual: We don't even know what a block is worth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123265 @ 0.00037159 = 45.804 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: I thought massive penetrating trauma happensvwhen cupid is in full effect
Vexual: Trauma isn't necessarily bad
Vexual: is it not just sone sudden change ?
Adlai: how about "an uncomfortable recalibration of one's comfort zone"
Vexual: Anyway I'm off to sleep in the dirt
Adlai: don't forget to take off your shirt
Vexual: I would have if you hadn't mentioned itt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116950 @ 0.00038573 = 45.1111 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: to give some idea of how much faster solid state drive is vs a 5400 rpm drive, it caught up to a weeks worth of blocks in about a day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 156450 @ 0.00036457 = 57.037 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: i wonder what goes longer way towards 'inclusiveness', the big blocks or cheap nodes
☟︎ chetty: a general breakdown of civilized behavior ..seems to be getting worse
mircea_popescu: i dunno... kids breaking into the movies seems pretty civilised.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127404 @ 0.00039539 = 50.3743 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: what's the context of all the "schoolgirls"?
mircea_popescu: nobody actually knows. that pic is about as old as cable modems, but its context lost to the world.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21996 @ 0.00040248 = 8.853 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlfkutB-PcE << this is epic. so some derp from alba (roguhly romania's equivalent of Indiana) has been a fugitive sought for proxenetism and "creating an organised crime group" for over a year. he's put some derpy rap thing on youtube, and the tv chicks are creaming their pants because "over 1000 views". literally, "peste o mie de vizitatori" = over 1k views.
assbot: Cel mai cautat interlop din Alba a devenit vedeta pe internet - Extern - Observator Antena1 - YouTube ... (
http://bit.ly/1ArCtx3 )
mircea_popescu: they even have a 5 second delay "connecting" to the "correspondent". who is like, fifty feet away.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56350 @ 0.00037393 = 21.071 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9254 @ 0.00037393 = 3.4603 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, it's kinda fun to watch the slowly seethin anger or "secret" girly venues at this INCREDIBLE IMPROPRIETY.
mircea_popescu: god damned it they have decided fetlife is not to be searched. how dares anyone change this, and how dare they be someone specific!
mircea_popescu: because, you see, "nobody ever got fired for arguing from pangloss".
mircea_popescu: ascribing intent to happenstance is like ascribing causation to correlation, or ascribing life to movement : it soothes the brain, it makes the world "friendlier"
mircea_popescu: only slavegirl should be beaten for failure, and only exceptional girls should be accepted into slavery.
jurov: !s assbot dividend
jurov: kakobrekla, assbot again did not announce mpex dividends
jurov: divs are deprecated now?
decimation: asciilifeform: win from the thrashing - if it is a public one << "maim one, educate one thousand"
jurov: also, i can't relate the bitbet dividend (3.21579681) to S.BBET monthly statement that says:
jurov: 3.21579699 BTC minus 1.9624272 BTC substracted due to last month's credit, for a final total of 1.25336979 BTC to be paid as dividends for MPEx(sic!) shares this month.
jurov: i'd suggest mircea to hire someone reliable to do the dividend payouts
mircea_popescu: jurov this is quickly developing into my fatal flaw, so i can be like a villain in the movies.
mircea_popescu: "sure he can piss everyone off - but he can't actually pay dividends correctly to save his life"
mircea_popescu: there is no way to list it but not list it. they could in principle not list it at all - the problem then becomes that, for our needs, they actually ARENT female.
mircea_popescu: so it's "about 3% out of the first 100k that self identify as female and self identify as under 30yo". for all we know two thirds of that are all labrador retrievers.
decimation: "Don't you have faith that we'll be successful?"
mircea_popescu: imagine the market chilling effects of these derps having to actually ask the girl from her father.
decimation: apparently in new york the situation is a little more harsh: "In New York, people have given up on equity. I hear this time and again in the NYC tech scene - building a company is hard in NYC because people don't believe equity is worth anything because of the bullshit that happened in the first bubble. In New York especially, there were a lot of shenanigans with equity in 99/00 bubble/crash era where companies got sold and employees
decimation: got nothing because of liquidation preferences and other things. "
decimation: "If your gut (or someone you trust) tells you that ANY ONE of the Founders is a bozo, forget it and walk away. They will take you and the company down."
mircea_popescu: but anyway : mpex people get fixed %s. everyone else gets shit.
decimation: asciilifeform: most of them would agree with moldbug's analysis that they believe paying tax is 'i gave at the office'
decimation: if by 'detroit' you mean anywhere where you could buy a house for less than 100k, you are probably correct
decimation: asciilifeform, all these high salaries 'create jobs', you see
decimation: replacement by an indian, either on or off shore
mircea_popescu: <decimation> replacement by an indian, either on or off shore << this is like saying your trophy wife that if she quits you, you'll replace her with a masturbation aid.
decimation: if that's true, then why are the chumpers willing to work for $60k (and pay $60k to live)
mircea_popescu: why were romanians willing to shiver in the winter in 88 ?
decimation: because the chumps to the right and left were also so willing apparently
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, it goes to the thread a few weeks ago about why does usg even bother to tax at all
hegemoOn: in the 90 most bouncer were freelance
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decimation: decimation: it would simplify accounting if your salary just went directly to the local land baron
mircea_popescu: decimation the point for the accounting is to not be simplified. it would also simplify accounting if the two jews "selling" each other the same painting just wrote random numbers of paper.
hegemoOn: but owner of club decided to unit and
mircea_popescu: similarly, it'd simplify accounting if the theatre just closed down. but then...
hegemoOn: create company hiring eastern europe former military guy
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah, if individuals had direct control of their wealth, accounting would get quite complex
mircea_popescu: hegemoOn but you understand there's something fundamental about the occupation that makes them servants to the club, right ?
mircea_popescu: just like whores are only allowed to work "on their own" in those situations where there's not enough food to go around.
hegemoOn: and use those instead of freelancer
hegemoOn: thhis is how they break the average cost of security operator
hegemoOn: and even getting money back as far as they were paying for a service to a company they owns
hegemoOn: exactly the same happened in computer land
hegemoOn: in the 90 most computer guy were freelancer
hegemoOn: and then bank/insurance create service company
hegemoOn: which sells them back legion of low cost computer guy
hegemoOn: and the golden era of computer guy was gone
hegemoOn: here in france we compete with north african cheap profile
hegemoOn: who tends to seduce more those service company
decimation: in the usa, 'freelance computer guys' are treated by the tax authorities as tax cheats
mircea_popescu: they pose no threat, because their capital can always be confiscated.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i actually have a post scheduled (for like 6 months now) for day after tomorrow.
hegemoOn: i worked two years and half on transactionnal platform of Ingenico
hegemoOn: and i can really state that lowcost hiring leads to poor result
hegemoOn: while hiring better profile would cost a little more on human ressource budget
hegemoOn: but far less in production and exploitation
hegemoOn: and communication towards customer which loose money
hegemoOn: exemple of failure : transaction processor which doesn't listen to commit acknowledgment of the sql database
hegemoOn: so plateform considers transaction is archived on database
hegemoOn: imagine this situation during 9hours of transaction history of main reteller in uk !
hegemoOn: guess who worked to parse all the log and worked with bank to recoved the money from auth message during 3 weeks ?
hegemoOn: 120 peoples working on this platform and only 10% skilled enough to understand what they do
hegemoOn: asciilifeform: im not saying that i should earn more from that :)
hegemoOn: im just saying that outsourcing/low cost profile lead to failure
mircea_popescu: hegemoOn if you feel like writing out the details, qntra is looking for more "fiat sucks" failure stories.
hegemoOn: mircea_popescu: facing harrasment from my former client ? :)
hegemoOn: but in a more general level i can explain why it sucks
mircea_popescu: if you don't hurt the things you don't like, you're not really a man.
hegemoOn: on protocol level and transaction life
hegemoOn: and bitcoin will face the same trouble when going to retail world
mircea_popescu: gavincoin will, because gavincoin is fundamentally predicated on the broken proposition of adjusting to the world.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin will be fine. there will be carnage in its wake, but that in itself is a positive outcome.
hegemoOn: i agree about the natural selection process
mircea_popescu: to quote rms, "To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example."
mircea_popescu: except it's not about the fucktard museum that's the nsa, nor about the long dead us generally.
mircea_popescu: it's about plainest morals : please consider if your duty to yourself, as a free man worth two shits doesn't require you to publish all the shit you know.
mircea_popescu: why exactly is the state and its corporations allowed any protection ? worst thing to aid and abet.
mircea_popescu: yeah. as fiat becomes worth less and less in actual money, that problem will slowly melt.
chetty: asciilifeform, get your shots uptodate first, its probably catching
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100263 @ 0.00039975 = 40.0801 BTC [+]
chetty: nothing all that creepy about it, except maybe a certain lack of windows :P
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2014 17:21:36; asciilifeform: (what style? gigantic plate-glass window walls that never let through office light - they're painted black on the inside; the seemingly-mandatory wrought-iron fence, with steel cable trusses - nominally against terrorist trucks (TM); archaically-massive satellite antennae; a few other features broadly known to anyone who looks with any regularity.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bullshit bios problem is actually quite serious
mircea_popescu: for now we can still run old boards. but that won't last forever.
mircea_popescu: in a sense, so far they're really cutting out our rouad for us.
mircea_popescu: well no, the idea is, most of the state effort consists of effort that really helps the republic.
mircea_popescu: the point is not saving some vague and uninteresting group.
mircea_popescu: fuck, ten billion boxes are pretty much permanent thralls to the first taker on the grounds that there's more holes than fixes.
mircea_popescu: "I'm an 18 year old currently in my first semester of college at UNM (Studying medicine). All my life I've been a very good girl, pro-feminist all my life, I was in the girl scouts growing up, I got straight As, I don't drink or go out to parties. I found your tumblr the other week and at first I was offended, I don't see how any woman would subject herself to such treatment. I've visited your page multiple times since
mircea_popescu: then and I'm curious how you would go about breaking me out of my shell?"
hanbot: please tell me the response is "i'd put on my robe and wizard hat"
mircea_popescu: i mostly quoted it for the sudden turn towards "breaking out of shells"
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the chick's clever enough to have done this deliberately.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00076456 = 3.8228 BTC [+] {15}
thestringpuller: so it's taken me 3 days to get 0.5.3.1 up to 190k blocks...
thestringpuller: why again should I be convinced this computer will be "okay" running larger blocks when it can barely keep up as is...
thestringpuller: oh and block propagation is going to be "0" with bloom filters or something
thestringpuller: ^- you make yourself sound like Dr. Frankenstein sometimes.
thestringpuller: I wonder what discoveries you've made we don't know about <.<;;
thestringpuller: moar frankensteinian would be ripping out Boost completely, not that that is feasible (but neither was reanimating the dead)
thestringpuller: i kno rite? funny how these kidz praise satoshi's "code know-how" yet all these things...
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> thestringpuller: also remember that the 'magic' of gavincoin was that it will work on existing hw, so long as 'everybody agrees' to throw away blockchain history and surrender << this, especially.
mircea_popescu: "make bitcoin accessible to everyone by saying it's really a bottle of tide, and letting procter and gamble manufacture it"
thestringpuller: i see. i just found it amusing game developers would rather not write C++ at all
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this article is gold. Dave Baggett elaborated more in the comments.
thestringpuller: game developers are kind of like rappers, after a certain age their "hip-ness" runs out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36263 @ 0.00040405 = 14.6521 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: indie dev's line up to suck Gabe's cock even if he can't see it.
thestringpuller: this is why freemium games are the work of the canadian devil
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: ah and this is probably why the whole GamerGate thing occurred last August.
thestringpuller: the uproar is what is interesting. uproar over people who don't matter.
punkman: ^ my thoughts: "who the fuck are these people and why is anyone writing about their sex life"
punkman: asciilifeform: do you have any machines running coreboot?
punkman: I grabbed a couple of T60s to give it a go
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thestringpuller: asciilifeform: random question. If someone paid for you to take Buterin's C4 (Certified Bitcoin Professional) exam, would you do it?
☟︎ jurov: thestringpuller why alf specifically?
thestringpuller: cause he is guaranteed to pass it. i guess others too. but he was the first that came to mind.
jurov: lol. as if one cannot fail and write about it?
thestringpuller: my biggest hesitation is the coin goes directly into the waterfall i.e. hands of enemy
jurov: internals of bitcoind? like, the whip out the cane, point to line test?
jurov: doubt even satoshi himself would pass