xanthyos: ;;rate thomas_d 2 really good at poker and gpg contract signing for a new guy.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user thomas_d has changed from 1 to 2.
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2014 21:05:38; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: heh <<< i like the guy's specifications skills tho.
jurov: coinbr is getting 30k pingbacks/minute
jurov: 75.103.66.8 - - [16/Nov/2014:22:08:27 +0000] "GET /login HTTP/1.1" 444 0 "-" "WordPress/3.9.2;
http://andybarrforcongress.com; verifying pingback from 142.0.44.50" "75.103.66.8"
ben_vulpes: xanthyos: d'you plan to endeedify that that contract?
xanthyos: ben_vulpes: i just googled "endeedify" adn the only 2 results were from assets log. i plan no endeedification for a .001 poker tournament
assbot: edify - Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch - WordReference.com
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Error: '<link' is not a valid
http url.
punkbot: xanthyos: No valid deeds found, try again.
xanthyos: last time i signed a contract the signature was around the whole contents
punkbot: ben_vulpes: No valid deeds found, try again. Errors: (msg1: invalid)
undata: "within 24 hours of acquiring funds for repayment" << so, like, whenever?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 325613a4b0882570b4265f879ea0eec1130986ba3cdb49c2dc2e2ab977175f55
undata: not bad terms for a loan between friends, otherwise...
undata rolls up his newspaper, thonks a keybase.io user
ben_vulpes: yeah where can i find more keybase users to whack
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: didn't you hear? keybase.io is the future of GPG
xanthyos: blame danielpbarron for setting me up with a keybase.io gpg key when he recruited me
xanthyos: i'd change it but i don't want to risk losing my identity
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: it's because keyservers don't have CSS donchano
undata: xanthyos: that is what is currently at risk.
Apocalyptic: xanthyos, there's a ,,echangekey gribble command to change the associated key to your WoT account
gribble: (echangekey <keyid>) -- Changes your GPG registered key to <keyid>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. You must be authenticated in order to use this (1 more message)
kakobrekla: someone actually uses 'keybase' ?!?! < no surprise there
xanthyos: i don't use keybase but my key was generated there
Apocalyptic: why on earth would you generate a key outside of your system ?
gernika: BingoBoingo I think Yasha Levine is male.
xanthyos: i'm trying to generate a key now
assbot: 'Grass' Model 79 D - Imgur
BingoBoingo: gernika: Updated it to use the first name.
nubbins`: it was sound amplification that introduced me to the joy of a well-made knob
ben_vulpes: to me they scream "i can't make stuff"
nubbins`: ben_vulpes they're shaped like nintendo wii, what do you think
nubbins`: asciilifeform what, making body jewelry for the kids isn't lucrative enough?
ben_vulpes: it seems like the rectangular knobs are used for discrete settings and the round ones for continuous settings?
nubbins`: ben_vulpes i think the round ones look indexed as well
nubbins`: coulda just put the dots there for a laff, i guess
ben_vulpes: clearly cohesion in operator interface was not a design goal for this machine.
xanthyos: shit just overwrote something important i can't undo
nubbins`: are those DIN connectors for the inputs?
xanthyos: made it like it was a huge issue to change my key now and i'm not up for it
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> dots for laffs <<< wouldn't be the first time
nubbins`: speaking of DIN, i've got this tiny korg synthesizer, with all-analog voice circuitry
nubbins`: it's got a tiny chip inside to control a sequencer
nubbins`: has MIDI functionality built in, the only thing they didn't do was wire up a DIN port.
ben_vulpes: xanthyos: you should back your .gnupg dir up before doing *anything* to it.
ben_vulpes: maybe not adding others' keys to your keyring but...pretty much anything else until you're comfortable with the process.
nubbins`: incidentally, korg released the schematics for the synth as well as a couple others
xanthyos: just the convenient way i had it organized
jurov: ;;google turd lathe
xanthyos: everything is backed up that needs to be backed up, except for the specific way i like things presented to me in directories
nubbins`: ^ for music/hardware mod buffs
nubbins`: like 1/4 of the way through the thread people are posting pics of their diy "mod chips" ;D
nubbins`: but seriously, korg helpfully labelled all the interesting mod points on ths board
nubbins`: thestringpuller looks like your pkg is in ny
nubbins`: anyway canada post says tomorrow, but i don't think a package is gonna get from a sort facility in nyc to your door in a day
nubbins`: "my roof isn't on fire here in the basement!
mircea_popescu: i guess we get to know what solipsism really is. turns out mp really doesn't give a shit as long as he himself can see his website.
nubbins`: guess i'll see what sort of lease i get on these things
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i guess the tarpitting may be too aggrssive at the edges or w/e. anyway. anyone else want whitelisted lemme know.
mircea_popescu: decimation: "NSA as an institution, however has become a TQM believer, born again in the gospel of Deming" <<< im not even sure anyone groks the botomless pit of lulz this otherwise truthful statement contains.
BingoBoingo: Probably sunning himself on some rocks, like lizard hitler does
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'build $widget-prime and try to pass off to chumpers as genuine $widget' <<< what else is the 80/20 software engineering approach than "build 80% of a functional program out of 20% of the budget and then try to pretend like we're selling it for "half price" ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile after 20 iterations of this, one every year and a half,
mircea_popescu: and you know what the best part of it is ? meanwhile inflation...
mircea_popescu: o look! we can print 10 million dollars to the dollar and inflation is pretty much even! because reasons!
mircea_popescu: whoa look at the corporate profits!11 wall street is best street!
mircea_popescu: and so today you can buy an icecream cone like you could in the 80s, except : that it is "the same icecream" that's 1% icecream, that you buy it for "the same dollars" that have been inflated 10mn to one and that all this allowed imaginary profits nobody can spent to be safely stored where such things are usually stored : fort knox, the social security, people's pensions...
nubbins`: i expect to see them vanish as a concern in my lifetime
mircea_popescu: well they're only hanging by the thread of pretense as it is.
mircea_popescu: like those slumlord fire hidrants, they're red and they're safelt there
nubbins`: there have been several "take half your pension or take none of it
nubbins`: " type situations in these parts, the past couple years
nubbins`: maybe still winding thru arbitration. i'll dig
nubbins`: ok this was actually a couple years ago
nubbins`: same outlook as social insurance (social security for yanqis), but from a different angle
nubbins`: "well if my old-age pension won't be there, at least i'll have my... uh.."
nubbins`: at least we've got our natural resourc...OH FUCK
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: where is your announcement that happened in nov - dec 2012 saying you were selling more shares of MPOE on MPEx?
thestringpuller: it was slightly before the "MPOE is likely monetizing itself" article
nubbins`: "Provincial budgeting has been off by an average of $800 million a year over the past seven years, largely due to inaccurate oil projections."
thestringpuller: i will when butthurt ddoser decides to stop ruining the nice things for us
nubbins`: incidentally, my trilema cookie was the one thing i didn't save when i wiped this machine
thestringpuller: i backed my trilema cookie up via gpg on a bunch of sites like dropbox
mircea_popescu: whether this is workable or not is in the end their problem.
mircea_popescu: in the end the whole discussion neatly reduces to whether men are more like cows or more like mice.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos if you ever want to get a militant feminist rabid, tell her to stop bitching about dairy farm conditions, it's just patriarchy's dry run for her and her kind.
hanbot: mircea_popescu: hanbot mail the man would you. << so emailed.
decimation: asciilifeform: "supply chicken" << I get the general impression that the 'chicken' volunteers
decimation: I'm not really sure usg even knows how to 'supply'
decimation: as a gradually larger portion of the 'sane class' in the us begins to perceive usg as more of an enemy than a friend, I suspect the quality of 'chicken' will degrade further.
xanthyos: mircea_popescu: it's a shame you're not on twitter anymore with that content
mircea_popescu: mind that the fact that it so works in practice is no actual proof.
mircea_popescu: for all we know, it is *possible* it dun happen this time. wink wink.
assbot: Video shows two men's confrontation with NSA recruiter at UNM | KOB.com
decimation: I suspect that pre-snowden, this kind of thing rarely happened
assbot: How the NSA Recruits in a Post-Snowden World - The Daily Beast
undata: tut tut, hapless romantics
decimation: annoy the shit out of some gov't clerk, he lashes out, news at 11
decimation: asciilifeform: can you imagine a similar conversation at a soviet university at the kgb recruiting desk?
mircea_popescu: "from the small fraction of the population that has this romantic attachment to absolute transparency at all costs." < < the sweetest sugar of etatism,
decimation: mircea_popescu: he doesn't even realize either
mircea_popescu: "that people who hate us, in principle, exactly for what we are, are a REALLY small fraction"
decimation: although to be fair, I'm sure in his world as long as he has some poll that implies that 50% of usian support whatever he is planning to do, he would consider it 'legitimate'
undata: "Potter says he is still deciding if he will press charges for assault." << this is weak
mircea_popescu: decimation indeed, up until that point where i make a poll where 200mn vote for him to surgically attach a cow vagina on his forehead
mircea_popescu: sudenly the entire polling thing won't be as legitimate.
mircea_popescu: and nobody hates it, either. the usg is widely despised, and in some quarters reviled.
assbot: Transcript | United States of Secrets | FRONTLINE | PBS
decimation: she said, “Uh-huh. Is it the right thing to do?” “Yeah, I think so.” She said, “OK, we’ll deal with that when it comes.”"
decimation: I guess my point is, if you are looking for 'lizard hitler', here he is - a couple of high level derps decide they can 'get away with X' and convince themselves that 'it's the right thing'
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:54:02; assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 22:24:42; asciilifeform: (for n00bs only: who is 'lizard hitler' ? a character approximately as real as magnetic field lines were to michael faraday. don't look for magnetic field lines, they aren't there. physically. or as far as we can tell, anyway.)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so anyone know this Khalahan Henkh fellow ? << anyone respond to this?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, but they still have to be... you know, NOT wet pasta.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i wanted to see if anyone knows him. "can get an inquiry with" is the opposite of that.
decimation: asciilifeform: if 'lizard hitler' is a physical entity, he's probably not working for usg
mircea_popescu: decimation it'd be the big bad, by definition. it only exists conceptually to accomodate asciilifeform's rampant pareidolia :D
decimation: asciilifeform: the best explanation for that kind of thing would be some low-level derp with a hard-on for a particular agenda, who initiates - and the rest of the bureaucracy 'leads from behind'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could say teh plugging with ricin episode was the result of competent kgb leadership neh ?
mircea_popescu: jurov: coinbr is getting 30k pingbacks/minute << did it do anything ?
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: i don't use keybase but my key was generated there <<< "your".
decimation: at any rate nailguns, cars, polonium, ricin, these smack of a weak sovereign, not a strong one. who asked anyone in the 'chinese government' before they did something in Shanghai circa 1920?
decimation: mircea_popescu: which play, the private beheading?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more like, judging dentist by inverse count of loud screams on the premises ; plastic surgeon by inverse count of lawsuits.
mircea_popescu: knew a chick that did both, she had superb tits and splendid teeth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you may be conflating things. guy a) lived on a mountain ; b) among an ethnically opressed majority that he supported ; c) against a technologically advanced foreign power.
mircea_popescu: the rest's just icing, much like saying "robin hood governed Sherwood County by arrow."
xanthyos: mircea_popescu: tinychat is a badly coded insecure site where degenerates go on webcam to be codependent alcoholics and prey on underage girls
xanthyos: if you didn't want to play chess against birdman with that gui i doubt you'd want to load tinychat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ask diana what's her name, the sec senior counsel chick.
decimation: asciilifeform: all powers to say things are reserved to the top tier of usg
mircea_popescu: decimation admire this funny : early frankish kings were physically weak in a world that had but contempt for weaklings. they saw a way out in hiring bodyguards, which was convenient. for charlemagne.
mircea_popescu: early us kings were intellectually weak, in world that had but contempt for weaklings. they saw a way out in hiring "pr", people to protect them from the deep waters of speech and thought.
assbot: Fire Valerie Jarrett - Carol Felsenthal - POLITICO Magazine
decimation: I'm pretty sure obama just signs what he is told to sign and reads what he is told to read off the appropriate prompter
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2014 04:44:03; asciilifeform: 'At the 1980 Olympics, Brezhnev begins his speech. "O!"applause. "O!"an ovation. "O!!!"the whole audience stands up and applauds. An aide comes running to the podium and whispers, "Leonid Ilyich, those are the Olympic logo rings, you don't need to read all of them!"'
assbot: Bill Ayers 'confesses' to writing Obama's memoir. He didn't, but his tease tells us a lot about America – Telegraph Blogs
decimation: yeah Obama is pretty much the peak achievement of that 'movement', I don't see much more upside for them
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps I'm wrong, but in the us there is a context of the 'hippie boomer' generation who are all 'retiring' now
decimation: obama is their wet dream, in the sense that they have finally overturned (superficiality) "the man's" institutions
decimation: in 'public life', they were immediately schooled by fdr's sycophants who were exiting power at the time
decimation: this is one reason why usg is still fdr's usg (that and the fact that they and their friends razed the world in wwii)
mircea_popescu: decimation let's be fair here : you're a freshman, there's 12 kids in senior year. eleven strip naked, pour gasoline over each other and set themselves ablaze. the 12th puts them out by running into them backwards then continues to run backwards into things for a week or so, until he's finally comatose and just spazzes quietly on the ground.
mircea_popescu: if those are your two choices, who do you vote most likely to succeed ?
mircea_popescu: by practical standards, the us did really well in the 20th century.
decimation: sure, in terms of trade, production, etc
mircea_popescu: even in terms of... not... pouring gasoline on own head and lighting it. twice.
decimation: "Everyone is conservative about what he knows best. " << Conquest's first law of politics
mircea_popescu: decimation one of the most interesting aspects of systemd is the irrationality of the proponents. it's almost as if you're discussing theology with the flat earth society or geophysics with the global warming cult of washington dc.
mircea_popescu: technologically it's about as notable as windows notepad, but sociologically... wow, ze goldmine.
mircea_popescu: "Today, now, before the results are announced, we have an opportunity to extend compassion and empathy and remind ourselves of the spirit in which we'd like to work together." << lmao fuck that.
mircea_popescu: who wants to work in an environment of "compassion" ? what are these people, retards ?
decimation: yeah, if anything this is a loud bell ringing to anyone 'sane': "these people are crazy, now's the time to exit!"
mircea_popescu: "I'm hoping that we can all take a few minutes to gain empathy for those who disagree with us." << derping about "empathy" -> straight to the uranium mines.
mircea_popescu: reassure them that they are valued and respected and their concerns
mircea_popescu: considered even when we end up strongly disagreeing with them or valuing
mircea_popescu: "oh, so you want to wear pants ? fuck you, you're wearing a skirt.
mircea_popescu: this is the ultimate theft, these people are trying to introduce into the world. they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow,
mircea_popescu: but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from"
decimation: I don't think any future historian will fail to notice the parallels between this and usg's way of doing business
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'm the only one privy to the history of that protocol ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps an instructive case study as to how usg protocol confiscation works in the field.
decimation: sam hartman is some developer I guess, but somehow has 'influence'
mircea_popescu: decimation kerberos was developed by mit in the 80s. a gutted export version was created. as the usg was going to (again) change its export restriction in 2000,
mircea_popescu: the gutted thing was reimplemented by some nordic country university
mircea_popescu: then a few years later windows migrated to "kerberos" as its primary security protocol
decimation: it's still a nightmare to deploy to this day, for sure
mircea_popescu: sam hartman is a 30something nobody, roughly speaking a debian gmaxwell
decimation: in fact one of the supposed prime 'benefits' of redhat enterprise is that it can 'hook up to' a windows active directory server which acts as an ldap/krb ticket server
mircea_popescu: im completely unclear as to why the fuck usg wants the "one computer system" so badly anyway.
decimation: mircea_popescu: the simplest answer is probably because usg is full of hartmans and gmaxwells
mircea_popescu: fuckign to-feeling arguments in THE MOTHERFUCKING DEBIAN LISTS.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to save here. just burn the entire stack where it stands an' that's that.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, that letter is an exact summary of everything that's wrong with the english language space.
mircea_popescu: There isn't a right answer. As Russ has explained a number of times in the TC, on debian-vote and on his blog, this is about tradeoffs. I'm sure some people will be happy if the project's values are aligned with theirs. When they take that as far as saying the project made the "right decision" or rejected "bad options," they are not valuing the contributions of those who disagreed with them.
mircea_popescu: the point of discussion is not to discover the wrong alternatives, or the right alternatives.
mircea_popescu: and then driveby's have the unmitigated audacity to discuss #b-a cult-ness. how do you like that!
mircea_popescu: five fucking centuries of european intellectual heritate, which is the exactly ONLY reason the US even exists in the first place, down the drain. "We wanna be africans now. Hold hands."
mircea_popescu: let's fucking "value each other's" banana peels and sing koombaya.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me clear teh usg-debian believes it got the votes
mircea_popescu: someone should make a bitbet about it, i'd throw a few cents.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well, at some point im gotta have to insult some unfortunate bystanding trashbag or something, or else collapse into A = A circularity.
mats_cd03: poor guy. cut outta the fold after bein' a regular for... what was it, a year plus?
mats_cd03: gotta loosen up on the mad ravings my good man
thestringpuller: sometimes the ravings of a madman is wisdom, other times just noise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform have you ever seen something this idiotic ?
decimation: it is a neat little experiment in 'infinite democracy'
mircea_popescu: i mean, the "other speeds more important to us" thing is nowhere near.
gribble: cazalla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <cazalla> i guess ddos is back :\
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's not just "gather enough filth in one place"
mircea_popescu: if you were a cock - which you obviously are not bwahhhaha i need a minute here lmao - if you were a cock
decimation: 'we voted and this is the best course of action'
mircea_popescu: "have some empathy for the people who want to take a shit on the collected effort of the people you happen to respect! they're people too!"
mircea_popescu: except this'd be th every definition of not being people. if they were people they'd do something else for a living.
decimation: do something else < which is why debian is now dead, as ascii wrote
decimation: redhat is going down the same tube, in the long run
mircea_popescu: when some kid is annoying you don't pick up and leave, you punch him in the nose.
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2014 19:19:31; asciilifeform: 'Learn not to participate - to the point of utter impossibility of meeting the enemy 'half-way' - and you will see that inside there lay a very useful mindfuck: in learning to 'nonparticipate,' in fact you drew out your *will* from its scabbard - to which it seemed so securely riveted by your upbringing. The appearance of *your will* changes everything and forever. With your own will slipped into your
nubbins`: but with debian dead, where do i turn
mircea_popescu: i propose in this case "not participation" is punching some blind twerp right in the face.
nubbins`: o.O osx comes with a python script that merges pdf files
nubbins`: yeah, but you gotta do it one at a time that way
nubbins`: here i say join.py -o merged.pdf *.pdf
nubbins`: and by the time i explain why this is better, i've got an 800mb merged.pdf waiting for me
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:47:05; asciilifeform: once you've been 'taught the controversy' - that is, convincing that there -even is- reasonable debate among informed people, on a particular subject - the lie becomes a kind of half-truth, automagically
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:47:19; asciilifeform: because suddenly, there is (or you think there is) a debate. with 'sides.'
mircea_popescu: top - 23:51:11 up 15 min, 2 users, load average: 5153.36, 3287.44, 1431.04
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, there's a lot of value to teaching the controversy.
mircea_popescu: it just has to be a controversy between actual people.
mircea_popescu: i have this baby in bathwater obsession, myself. "teaching the controversy" is just americanized, which is to say, "cut into bits and rubbed in shit" hegelian dialectics.
nubbins`: ooo i shouldn't have used the wifi connection to send this print job
nubbins`: actually there we go, wasn't so bad
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2014 04:36:17; RagnarDanneskjol: I need to round up the troops and do some crash coursing in wot, etc first
thestringpuller: the best time to plant a tree is never, because they all die anyways
mircea_popescu: "I really hope that folks who value user choice will be willing to work with those who are trying to introduce improved ways of doing things regardless of what we decide." <<< and there's the giveaway.
cascadian_herper: ragnardanneskjol: i want to work with the hep cats who see wot+bitcoin and are struck speechless with their importance who then hie to the gpg-machine for registration
RagnarDanneskjol: most people are struck once they take the time to learn it. its a damn figure of speech -as in contacting all those I know who are squarely qualified to do this work AND meet said expectations
thestringpuller: "I like the blockchain just not bitcoin itself is like saying I like pussy but not women themselves"
mats_cd03: is nice reading material when pooping
mats_cd03: anyone keeping a running count of known USG coins?
mats_cd03: i vaguely recall smth in the neighborhood of 400k
TheNewDeal: or like, could carry in large knapsack?
gribble: (interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks.
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Sun Jul 31 15:21:25 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 36 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> "I like the blockchain just not bitcoin itself is like saying I like pussy but not women themselves" << more like "i like round things but not circles, because this difference exists"
mircea_popescu: and their last toe support got squeezed to fuck in s.mpoe, so there's going to be a reckoning next week or something like that.
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021747 B (Total: 475.57 B). Delta: 0.56 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
empyex: thestringpuller: [F.MPIF] Bids: 7125 @ 0.00019500 30000 @ 0.00019100 7636 @ 0.00019000 100000 @ 0.00018500
empyex: thestringpuller: [F.MPIF] Asks: 99 @ 0.00021900 2000 @ 0.00021910 17100 @ 0.00022000 10000 @ 0.00022000
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
kakobrekla: looking at this, we can notice qntra has two </footer> tags, only one <footer>
kakobrekla: also one extra </div> that does not belog.
RagnarDanneskjol: that is a very nice feature add. raw is pretty tough on the eyes. at least you have some margin on standard paste and the option to show raw
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saifedean: any thoughts, advice, or searing critiques?
saifedean: im not asking for trust for these friends, just wondering what you folks think of this business model.
mircea_popescu: but, so far the business model is "dude where's my car"
mircea_popescu: like, what are these friends. are they cooks ? airplane pilots ?
saifedean: one used to work in tech companies, the other in bullshit management consulting. they both quit their jobs to work on this full time
RagnarDanneskjol: I recommend thy try to get their old jobs back 'fore its too late.. a 'no risk' exchange does sound rather amazing tho
gribble: Current Blocks: 330392 | Current Difficulty: 3.960366625241841E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 330623 | Next Difficulty In: 231 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 12 hours, 42 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 40100157618.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.25365
mircea_popescu: saifedean the way that noobs usually work these things is, they put in some work for a few months, and while they're small whatever bank they lied to doesn't bother to notice.
mircea_popescu: then it yanks the plug and there goes the "business model"
RagnarDanneskjol: the world could use an updated, expanded 'so you wanna start a bitcoin business'
RagnarDanneskjol: indeed.. still, so much more could be said on the topic - and old one lives on tardstalk
mircea_popescu: speaking of old one, your friends happened ot read it saifedean ?
saifedean: i haven't read the old one, where is it?
saifedean: "Access Denied (content_filter_denied) Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Games""
saifedean: trilema is classified as games by my university, MP!
mircea_popescu: email him that, at least he can reclassify it. HUNTING!
saifedean: well, this link worked, but the previous one didn't
mircea_popescu: seems this filter of yours is doing exactly as much useful work as every filter ever.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1012 @ 0.00120546 = 1.2199 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1083 @ 0.00120569 = 1.3058 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1665 @ 0.0012 = 1.998 BTC
PiaAA: is the tits for 0.1 btc still active?
jurov: you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him
PiaAA: so, what is this place for?
PiaAA: so many people but everyone is quiet lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1170 @ 0.0012 = 1.404 BTC
jurov: PiaAA: it's that time of day... apparently europeans don't like to chat much at this hour
jurov: and everyone else is asleep
gribble: Nick 'adlai', with hostmask 'Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai', is identified as user 'Adlai', with GPG key id 4D88596A7CDA03F9, key fingerprint FCBC64EFDF1D6C1E4E964AEE4D88596A7CDA03F9, and bitcoin address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj
Adlai: is this gpgadlai or btcadlai? only gribble knows...
Adlai: the nsa's database probably knows, although i'd be surprised and honored if they cared
jurov: why it's so important? got split personality?
Adlai: holy fuck that dpaste is painful on the retina
Adlai: well, apparently using btc auth is foolhardy, childish, and infinitely inferior to gpg auth
Adlai: entropy cares how it's serialized
Adlai: i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification, but i imagine there's some way around that
assbot: Only invest in the USD what you can afford to lose.
Adlai: isn't it about time this assbot paste thingy learned to distinguish content from cruft?
danielpbarron: Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily,[a] and follow Me.
Adlai: isn't it about time for the sequel, "Jesus Shrugged"?
Adlai: he should join us in E̶g̶y̶p̶t̶ chile
empyex: BingoBoingo: Proxies: mpex.biz mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.coinbr.com mpex.co Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
empyex: BingoBoingo: MPEx-Status: mpex.biz (106 milliseconds), mpex.ws (109 milliseconds), mpex.co (113 milliseconds), mpex.bz (114 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (683 milliseconds)
empyex: BingoBoingo: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 11665 @ 0.0012 = 13.998 BTC
xanthyos: ruminated a bit on the imagery of human women being milked as cows when i woke up. the creepy part is that it's not just hentai, and that given the population of the earth, there are surely women that are being dairy farmed somewhere. the writers of walking dead missed an opportunity to have some surprise cheese or yogurt in the cannibal camp episodes.
xanthyos: Deuteronomy 14:21Modern English Version (MEV)
xanthyos: 21 You must not eat of anything that dies of itself, but you may give it to the foreigner that is in your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to the Lord your God.
xanthyos: You shall not boil a young goat in its mother.s milk.
Adlai likes the bit about feeding carrion to immigrants
TheNewDeal: Did I get that correct that the Mayor attempted to sync a calendar on an infected system?
mircea_popescu: that said, i struggle to comprehend what the idea is behind BingoBoingo's collection of factoids.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1167 @ 0.0012 = 1.4004 BTC
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but listen, if that's your angle (detroit sucks) then make it your title. if that doesn't work then why not ?
mircea_popescu: you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him << how does jurov know!!!
BingoBoingo: I just found the "Spread the Wealth" op-ed piece a bit... ironic considering every other headline there tonday is about the absolute pile of nothing they have.
nubbins`: how does he know how to get an anagram of his name into a sha256sum :P
mircea_popescu: Adlai: is this gpgadlai or btcadlai? only gribble knows... << nanotube you know, he brings a very good point. how would i go to check that he is in fact and specifically gpg authed ?
nubbins`: TBF i thought detroit was dead by now
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im not saying the three links couldn't assemble into a great piece, but merely that it has to actually be done. ie, reader doesn't have access to the lulz in your head, put it on teh page.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu hm that's a good one. ;;ident will list gpg key AND btc address if both are reg'd
BingoBoingo: Ah, that problem. The why Trilema must have so many words problem.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the standard best practice when newbs make accounts would be inserting a rider with "and don't add a btc address, it just creates pointless ambiguity"
mircea_popescu: Adlai: i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification << le explain ?
☟︎ nubbins`: Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan revealed at the North American International Cyber Summit that a 2,000 BTC ransom was not paid in order to regain access to the affected database because it was "not that important".
nubbins`: In a seemingly-unrelated revelation that perhaps hints at the true reason for the bounty not being paid, the mayor also revealed that he cannot sync his MS Office calendar to his phone due to technical difficulties.
nubbins`: revelation + revealed gotta go
mircea_popescu: nono, "mayor would like to spread the wealth but can not find the time to do so"
nubbins`: s/revelation/admission perhaps
nubbins`: such a mayor/manager thing to say huh
nubbins`: "i can't get my phone to sync my calendar"
mircea_popescu: no, she just used to hear these voices and for a while they were gone
nubbins`: 5 satoshi says i'm the only one here who got that
nubbins`: ;;google sounding site:bme.com
nubbins`: tl;dr put things where you pee, it feels good
mircea_popescu: i also like how the sophistication, size and complexity of boy sounds vs girl sounds properly reflects the boy vs girl relation generally.
mircea_popescu: (i actually won an argument on this once. triumphant mainstreamist "oh yea ? on what criteria!" mp : "urethral sounds complexity.")
nubbins`: i don't know that i've seen gender-specific sounds, altho i guess the big sets would never ever fit into a woman's urethra
mircea_popescu: Alexander Fox @AutonoZone · Oct 6 @napoleon @BitcoinBelle Idealism is a dangerous investment strategy. Just look at the goldbugs. Global capital is pouring into the USD. <<< why does the usd sound so much like every other altchain scam ?
nubbins`: then i've never seen female ones :o
nubbins`: anyway idk what it's like now, but there was a time when private citizens had the hardest time purchasing shit like this
nubbins`: i remember going to a medical supply place once to pick up a biopsy punch i'd ordered
nubbins`: "what are you going to do with this?"
nubbins`: (worry replaced with confusion, leads me to cash register)
mircea_popescu tries to follow in Adlai's footsteps reading that "accelerating change" piece, gets as far as "The goal of this chapter is to trace the general implications of what are identified as the two central characteristics of the future: accelerating change and intensifying complexity.", first line in abstract, and fails.
nubbins`: nothing so innocent, although i've mostly moved on from the proclivities of my youth
mircea_popescu: what the FUCK is "intensifying" complexity. is complexity like pain or wtf.
nubbins`: i definitely do not biopsy women during sex
mircea_popescu: "spread wider honey i wanna get a taste of precum straigth through your perineum!"
nubbins`: for those of you not in the know, a biopsy punch is a cylindrical scalpel, useful for removing round chunks of flesh from various areas of the body
mircea_popescu: you probably make earlobe holes and lame shit like that.
nubbins`: altho my earlobe holes were done the old-fashioned way, pierced with a needle then immediately tapered to 6 gauge
mircea_popescu: that's the main problem for people that got circumcised
nubbins`: the cock is a cornucopia of piercing sites
nubbins`: i can list maybe a dozen named cock piercings off the top of my head
punkman goes to check bme guy's blog, finds "hey guys, I'm dead" post
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: ruminated a bit on the imagery of human women being milked as cows when i woke up. the creepy part is that it's not just hentai, and that given the population of the earth, there are surely women that are being dairy farmed somewhere. << nope. if you think about it, mammals are only productive after foaling. what would you do with all the babies ? this and numerous other considerations make dairy-female a hig
mircea_popescu: hly abstract fantasy, roughly comensurate with the bizarre shit coming out of the lesbian feminist camp, which is why i made that comment.
nubbins`: punkman actually a very interesting guy, if a bit narcissistic
mircea_popescu: only heard of bme through modder chick years after its heyday
nubbins`: real downer about him killing himself, i was in a funk for like 6mo over it
punkman: yeah he was a cool dude, bme turned to shit when ex-wife took it over
nubbins`: punkman i met her once at a wedding
mircea_popescu: nubbins` met modder chick through making fun of "all those freaks with the crazy shit stick on all sides of head".
mircea_popescu: cause you know, she seemed sane, and im very conservative.
nubbins`: i actually met my first almost-wife through bme
nubbins`: a more-or-less intact piece, no less
mircea_popescu: anyway, i would expect suicide is the definitve body modification all serious practitioners aspire towards.
nubbins`: assbot now scrapes site & dpastes plaintext?
punkman: not just plaintext! even images!
nubbins`: nice alternative for when you really don't wanna click a link, i guess
mircea_popescu: part of it was the ip stealing attempt coupla days back.
punkman: maybe I can setup a URL where assbot can post content to, provide actual html/file mirror
mircea_popescu: sahould be more in the scoopbot than in the deedbot domain that, in the interest of not making a mess of things
punkman: yeah not on deedbot system, I got plenty of space on a dreamhost account
gribble: peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 56 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <PeterL> yes
punkman: Imma write stupid PHP script to do this, also needed for deed backups
mircea_popescu: well seeing how scoopbot's never in chan, something's gonna have to be done here.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: that info is not currently publicly available. though i can find out by checking bot-side logs.
nubbins`: my admittedly inconsequential vote is for including it in ;;ident, as it's potentially useful
nubbins`: say you want to know if someone's authed via btc or gpg
nubbins`: ('potentially' == i can't think of a compelling scenario)
nanotube: haha you're begging the question here. /why/ would someone want to know that
nanotube: not that it would harm anything to have the info... just curious
nubbins`: ostensibly so it's easier to shame people who have registered both a gpg key and a btc address, but choose not to auth via gpg
nubbins`: i'm sure mp has a more concrete scenario in mind ;p
xanthyos: mircea_popescu: once a woman starts producing milk she'll keep producing it until she stops nursing. there are some children who nurse way too long and as long as they keep suckling, the milk will flow. also i doubt anyone using women to farm milk is concerned about cost effectiveness or has the moral concern to worry about his cows continually giving birth. their young might be inserted into the food chain that eventually becomes the moth
nubbins`: i'm sure the truly compelling part of that paragraph was after the break
nubbins`: i was at a printer's fair yesterday and some guy came up being really weird about a book we published
rithm: asciilifeform it just means they subcontract it out
rithm: reading reports under the pretense where one hands know what the other hand is doing is fallacy
mircea_popescu: <nanotube> haha you're begging the question here. /why/ would someone want to know that << well, i do want to know.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, if a hole is found in either but not in both, the situation is now glbse-ambiguous : anyone logged on can claim it wasn;t them
mircea_popescu: "also i doubt anyone using women to farm milk is concerned about cost effectiveness" << maybe we're not on the same page as to what farm means, here.
mircea_popescu: something like "i'm farming the lich king, 100k spent for every 80k worth of loot" ?
mircea_popescu: also, feeding cows their foals, it doesn't work. that's how you select for CreutzfeldtJakob
mircea_popescu: if it did make any sort of economic sense it'd be all over your flouridated water i'm sure.
nubbins`: i have friends who are still not allowed to donate blood because they spent more than 6mo in england
mircea_popescu: "In Canada, individuals are not eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have spent a cumulative total of three months in the United Kingdom or France from January 1, 1980, to December 31, 1996. They are also ineligible if they have spent a cumulative total of five years or more in Western Europe outside the U.K. or France since 1980, or if they have had a blood transfusion in the U.K., France or Western Europe since
mircea_popescu: and in spite of all that painstaking effort ? still crazy as fuck, the canucks.
nubbins`: mp these rules were enacted by a competing prion which has figured out how to influence human behaviour in a more nuanced fashion
BingoBoingo awaits discovery of world with Chiraly reversed biochemistry.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo it's only like 10% as big, not so fun
nubbins`: apparently something like 35% of bitcoiners are leftys?
BingoBoingo imagines the aliens landing in nubbins yard, spotting that all of the amino acids are flipped the wrong way, and putting a warning bouy in earth orbit announcing Earth's toxicity.
BingoBoingo imagines the SEW campaign to make Earth safe for the Alien Invaders
nubbins`: you cannot donate your tenderloins unless you've spent less than 3 consecutive months on earth
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I vaguelly remember a few stories but no titles
BingoBoingo: Just in the context of the prion discussion, I'm imagining sufficiently advanced aliens to have had this problem before. They came here to steal our water, but can't because of fish piss. Just like the Mad Cow blood donor ban
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (before anyone asks, yes, must posit some exception for gametes) <<< wait wait lol.
xanthyos: if someone's gpg key is on a computer that is being held captive by an angry muslim ex boyfriend and they make a new wot account and then later recover the old key, can the ratings of those two accounts be merged?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00120273 = 1.2027 BTC [+] {2}
xanthyos: well he doesn't have the passphrase for it
xanthyos: but the security isn't my question
xanthyos: would all the people who gave rating have to be notified to rerate to the new account manually
nubbins`: sums up the situation more succinctly
nubbins`: hey duod it's me, `xanthyos`, can you give me a re-rate bru? i lost my key lol
nubbins`: losing your key is, indeed, quite inconvenient.
xanthyos: well if it's someone i can authenticate as the same person
xanthyos: i'm saying if they later recovered the key
xanthyos: and proved they were the same person in that sense
nubbins`: what are you even talking about
xanthyos: it's not a lost key it's a currently inaccessible key because it's behind a locked physical door
nubbins`: at least call these "hypothetical" people alice and bob so we can follow you
nubbins`: so your laptop is locked in someone's house
xanthyos: alice's laptop is locked in bob's house
xanthyos: can alice make wot account alice2 knowing that she'll get her alice1 account back eventually
xanthyos: and upon recovering alice1 prove that both are the same and merge their ratings
mike_c: what's the rush? if she'll get alice1 back, just wair.
xanthyos: i can't go into that without giving explicit private information
mike_c: my $0.02 is I wouldn't re-rate without a good answer to that question.
mike_c: where "good" really means.. i don't think there is a good reason.
mike_c: because when you start putting random qualifiers on good answers, you get scammed.
xanthyos: my question was only if there was a way to merge so rerating wouldn't be an issue if one could prove via gribble to simultaneously own two accounts
mike_c: that would be a bug, not a feature.
mike_c: someone can move my rating to a different account? that's silliness.
xanthyos: are you rating the account or the person?
mike_c: the account is the person.
xanthyos: i guess that protects people from making offensive name accounts and making it look like you endorse them
xanthyos: so then i guess just as ratings can't be moved accounts probably can't be renamed
xanthyos: finally a time when 10 trust makes sense
nubbins`: see the thing is, you want a message from alice saying "alice1 is my backup pgp key in case this one gets stolen"
xanthyos: it's like warp 10, trust 10 simultaneously occupies every place of faith in the universe
nubbins`: but you want it after alice has been stolen.
nubbins`: and if you'd done it before alice had been stolen, well, i suppose your alice1 woulda been stolen too, huh?
nubbins`: the key is to be able to demonstrably prove that you are who you say you are without use of a pgp key
nubbins`: not everyone can pull this off
xanthyos: what my "aura" isn't enough guys? clearly it's me.
nubbins`: that's an important distinction
xanthyos: wot accounts are people like corporations are people
kakobrekla: this raises a question, can schizophrenic even use pgp as intended?
xanthyos: no, that analogy falls apart in that corporate personhood removes accountability while wot accounthood demands it
xanthyos: not schizophrenic but you mean dissociative personalities
nubbins`: kakobrekla runaway thoughts prevent one from using pgp? o.O
xanthyos: if it's a compartmentalized individual
kakobrekla: dissociative personalities < in such setup, does one personality have access to others passwords?
xanthyos: hyde doesn't know jekyll's passphrase
xanthyos: although how much of keyboarding is conscious and how much is muscle memory? does the body remember the sequence of muscle contractions well enough for the passphrase to be typed without knowing it/
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.52, Best ask: 381.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.17000, Last trade: 381.7, 24 hour volume: 23277.77066544, 24 hour low: 375.0, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 396.595304938
kakobrekla: assbot now appends a hidemyass proxy link btw. use it for opening links from unknown people and qntra and trilema when down
mike_c: "The USMS will not release any information to the general public pertaining to the auction process or results."
BingoBoingo: mike_c: "To enforce the law one must be above the reach of the law" is pretty much the US m.o. since... Nixon at least
gernika: Anyone have any references to the legal rationale for selling seized assets prior to a verdict and before the appeals process has completed?
xanthyos: 50k btc sold under mkt value with unreleased results is a good way to lay the groundwork for intentional price plummet
gernika: There must be some convoluted explanation as to why that's OK though
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Pierre_Rochard You ask questions on twitter that have answers here
Pierre_Rochard: Person from Digital Currency Council sent me a message on linkedin telling me I should pay them for training
gribble: bitcoingirl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <bitcoingirl> the shavers case hasn't gone to trial yet
TheNewDeal: would love to see someone drop 50k or so bitcoin on an "exchange" prior to this auction
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Tell then you know a guy, rates are more favorable. Say here's the contact info and just give them my GPG fingerprint
Pierre_Rochard: digital currency council is another pretend thing, they want to be a professional organization
Pierre_Rochard: yeah, they got tired of bit that and coin this, it’s all digital currency now
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Well if you can figure out who they are feel free to submit a likbez to Qntra
thestringpuller: i've been terrified by that ever since I saw Soylent Green
Pierre_Rochard: haha, exactly. These people will tell you “well Ethereum and Ripple seem to be gaining traction, so Bitcon may not be ~the~ digital currency, we need to stay flexible”
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Don't worry. You don't need meat. Protein is fine, have Prion jerky!
jurov: <mircea_popescu> [20141117 16:05] you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him << how does jurov know!! << lol should i ask them outright to submit the buxom? i need the codes then :D
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
BingoBoingo: I have to stumble through the variations of these forms
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform> need to sell turds, when folks are asking for sausages? declare that now people shall eat 'cylindricals' <<< amazing
nubbins`: the y stands for sodium benzoate, vegetable oil, and a special evaporative process that removes all cocoa
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: That sets expectations for flavor. Just go with a "creamy" coating.
nubbins`: with a brown, easily meltable coating
nubbins`: wait now we're selling turds again
nubbins`: bbl buying ingredients for 김치 찌개
punkman: nubbins`: puffins, radio waves, wat?
assbot: The Project Gutenberg eBook of How to tell the Birds from the Flowers and other Wood-cuts, by Robert Williams Wood. ... (
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nubbins`: We recognize the Parrot by his clear articulation, For Carrots are unable to engage in conversation.
mircea_popescu: <xanthyos> if someone's gpg key is on a computer that is being held captive by an angry muslim ex boyfriend and they make a new wot account and then later recover the old key, can the ratings of those two accounts be merged? << how would an observer distinguish this situation from "angry muslim ex boyfriend finally manages to break into gpg key on ex gf's computer he hedl" ?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> how is this legal? << the law of "no way out"
mircea_popescu: Series A blocks consist of 2,000 coins and a deposit of $100,000 is required per bid entered on Series A. <<< 10%. ie, "MP was right".
mircea_popescu: Bids that are contingent on financing terms of any kind will not be considered.<< funny what the usg thinks of its own banking industry anyway :D
mircea_popescu: The United States Marshals Service reserves the right to sell some, all or none of the bitcoins for any reason. There is no disclosed reserve price for this auction.< << check the shit out. "secret reserve, will not announce winner".
mircea_popescu: chumpatronics at its finest, "we would like a list of rich people interested in bitcoin, mind sending us a signed form ?" / "hey, USMS can implement tardstalk scam actions too! We even hired Garr as an expert consultant"
BingoBoingo: Even has the name perversion thing going on too: Ebama/Thermos
chetty: wyatt earp would be horrified
adlai: mircea_popescu: sorry for vanishing, had to tend to some fires, and put out other ones
assbot: The United States Scammers Service, Formerly Marshalls Service. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
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assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 16:10:49; mircea_popescu: Adlai: i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification << le explain ?
mircea_popescu: adlai suppose i download your pubkey and encrypt "adlai is a poopyhead" to it five billion times.
mircea_popescu: this, iyo, has put me epsilon closer towards obtaining your priv key ?
adlai: that's a little different from what gribble gpg auth does
adlai: maybe I'm doing it wrong, but ";;auth adlai" gives me a challenge string, and I need to reply ";;verify
http://pastebin.com/blabla" with a signature for the challenge string, using my wot key
adlai: ok, I was using ;;auth
adlai: it's still more convenient to use ;;bcauth :P
assbot: The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
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gribble: Error: No closing quotation
mircea_popescu: u need us, of course, but thats an entirely different discussion.". it's what it's for.
gernika: to answer my own question above, the value of the coins in USD will be retained in escrow until the outcome of the case is decided.
adlai: convenience is king, the rest is bunk
adlai: "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - sammy C
thestringpuller: Kim acts out because she'll be irrelevant when her youth is gone.
mircea_popescu: well, if "perfect butt, perfect shape" is your thing, then obviously it only lasts a little.
mircea_popescu: somehow people don't seem to say the same about athletes.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do i care what maradona does after he's too old to play ?
punkman: I've heard the same about athletes, not uncommon
mircea_popescu: i'm certainly going to remember fuckable kim long after i forgot any and all sitcom writers for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i trust myself only with a 9 << just as long as you find a kim to trust you with her 6.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: this raises a question, can schizophrenic even use pgp as intended? <<< well if he has split personality, then they won't know about each other's keys.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: 50k btc sold under mkt value with unreleased results is a good way to lay the groundwork for intentional price plummet <<< if it had worked.
adlai: schizophrenia does not exist
adlai: it's a made up concept to lump together a bunch of conditions that psych(olog|iatr)ists have epsilon understanding of
adlai: there are several somethings
adlai: no, seriously. some big association of mental scientists (lol) recently admitted that they have nfc what schizophrenia actually is, and that they should probably drop the term and start analyzing the conditions it refers to from a blank page
mircea_popescu: adlai the derps in question make no difference. but, yeah, the problem has long stood.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: need to sell turds, when folks are asking for sausages? declare that now people shall eat 'cylindricals' << not bad.
mircea_popescu: "beverage" comes to mind. because yeah, carbonated high fructose corn syrup needs a thing to be, like water and wine.
mircea_popescu: jurov: i need the codes then :D << you know i just use the webirc hostmask they come in with right ?
kakobrekla: "they didn't officially delete it" < lol
mircea_popescu: it's an acceptable if overvoluminous textbook for treating broken bones.
TheNewDeal: it's a nice meta piece on psychologists
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 2600 @ 0.0012 = 3.12 BTC
adlai: it gives you a resolution bound for the precision of mental disorder diagnosis
mircea_popescu: and now, off to play aurum blade, because i am getting retarded in my old age.
mircea_popescu: (but seriously, if you, like me are a fan of the old amiga stuff, with HARD mobs and tough as nail bosses etc ? try it.)
adlai: you're not retarted, you're centenariophrenic
adlai: "... Now we should call them economical numbers"
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> ^ Blame Obola
adlai: did bingo died of obbola?
cazalla: seems BingoBoingo has been busy this morning and scooped me on the news before i was even awake
cazalla: thestringpuller, need a few cuppas first
TheNewDeal: From the article "We set out to make payments faster and more fun!!!"
dignork: "For now, Snapcash is available to Snapchatters in the United States who have a debit card and are 18 or older." << there is such a thing?
undata: the hipsters all use snapchat to send each other dick pics
dignork: or dick pics for dollar, might work too
dignork: and a DRM solution, to protect the assets.
thestringpuller: well snapchat deletes your photo after its viewed doncha know***
undata: suddenly the use case becomes clear.
dignork: that's very weak DRM, better would be scrambling signal to be decoded on google glasses, surgically embedded into user scalp.
mircea_popescu: I guess you will have to go to jail. If that is the result of not understanding the Income Tax Law, I will meet you there. We shall have a merry, merry time, for all our friends will be there. It will be an intellectual center, for no one understands the Income Tax Law except persons who have not sufficient intelligence to understand the questions that arise under it.
mircea_popescu: The welfare state reduces a citizen to a client, subordinates them to a bureaucrat, and subjects them to rules that are anti- work, anti-family, anti-opportunity and anti-property... Humans forced to suffer under such anti-human rules naturally develop pathologies. The evening news is the natural result of the welfare state.
mircea_popescu: curious that the "advanced northern europe" isn't coming out with "brevik is pretty much our greatest achievement",
mircea_popescu: at least the us has the decency to worship its degenerates.
mircea_popescu: The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else. lol
cazalla: you know, with the new pokemon game coming out in a few days time, idea of a bitcoin pokemon market would be great, could even have gpg pokemon contracts
mircea_popescu: you'll have to explain this like we've never been five
mircea_popescu: my idea of a pokemon is roughly speaking a beanie baby. what's to gpg there ?
cazalla: for trading pokemon, you know, so i can point and say hey, you said you would deliver pokemon xyz and you decided to back out at the last minute, don't trade with this guy
TheNewDeal: pokemon was also a card game back in the day, like Magic. Not sure if he's talking about software game
mircea_popescu: i suppose someone who knows about trading cards could re-make mtgox.
danielpbarron: it was a gameboy game first; you could trade via the connection cable
cazalla: mircea_popescu, never played pokemon? so you catch them as you would say find an item in an mmorpg, you train em, level em up, you can trade them as you would an item in an mmorpg to other players
cazalla: i doubt there is any demand for it but i would buy a desired pokemon for btc
cazalla: i am partial to the original 150
cazalla: i wonder if nintendo capitulated and will allow 2 male pokemon to make a baby pokemon
danielpbarron: the amount of "work" that goes into finding a shiny would put it in the 1 to 10 BTC range
mircea_popescu: all these fucktarded nsa "codewords". it would not surprise me if the central nodes in the administration of all this perpetually overbudget, perpetually mismanaged nonsense are desocialised to the point they can no longer interact with people in a shop or bar or w/e
mircea_popescu: exactly like star trek ninnies, speaking a wholly unintelligible pigdin and laughing out of the blue for nutty reasons.
danielpbarron: like the yale-tards i overheard at louis lunch the other day? like it was their first time interacting with people outside of acedemia?
cazalla: mebe you nintendo could even use blockchain technology to timestamp when you found a pokemon so no-one can sell you dupes
cazalla: could call it.. the brockchain
punkman: "The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce it has received a $1,000,000 donation from Jan Koum, CEO and Co-Founder of WhatsApp. This marks the largest single donation to the Foundation since its inception almost 15 years ago"
punkman: "The reason we were able to attract A-list investors is our group of founders and the promise of blockchain technology."
mats_cd03: this is the impression i'm getting, too.
thestringpuller: cazalla: a pokemon exchange?!? lol. i think I may be the only one in this channel who plays pokemon.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: blockstream << lol i look at the founders page and of course gmaxwell is on it
thestringpuller: its like "the only thing I can do is work for cash burning start up or suck dick"
punkman: hey 20 million bezzlars, that's gotta last them at least a year
thestringpuller: so they run out of money not finding useful stuff to do and ask for more. so does this make all the core developers essentially beggars?
nubbins`: a beggar is not one who accepts money but one who begs for it
nubbins`: asciilifeform re: that book you posted earlier
nubbins`: they match puffin with "nuffin"
nubbins`: and leave a blank space in lieu of a picture 8)
mircea_popescu: punkbot these deals always depend on how much they actually get.
nubbins`: downloading blockchain, take three. go!
nubbins`: thinking about making a pgp infographic-type poster
nubbins`: gotta find a neat angle on it tho
cazalla: asciilifeform: i propose that pseudo-bitcoin scamatrons be known as 'mockchains' <<< why you gotta try oneup my brockchain :(
mircea_popescu: actually, someone should make a backup service, exactly identical to tarsnap except it only accepts material gpg-encrypted to your key.
mircea_popescu: on the current, symetric cypher based process, not bad. to the tune gbps depending on your system specs
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller note that the question is leading. sure, "aes optimised" hardware may deliver better performance, at an unknown cost to security.
thestringpuller: i guess maybe that is first test I will run on cardano: get arbritarily large file and find rate at which it decrypts/encrypts
mircea_popescu: The legacy of Democrats and Republicans approaches: Libertarianism by bankruptcy.