cazalla: oh boy this article is gonna be a good one
mike_c: yeah, i'll have to take another crack at compiling this thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw, the thinking minigame side is that if there's three or four independently maintained clients which each does its own thing that's perfect.
mircea_popescu: minigame will always release a "reference client", but i'd frankly love for people to make their own.
cazalla: publishing it soon, just adding links
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 22:17:19; shinohai: suppoae i wish to ignore xt nodes by default
trinque: asciilifeform: the github repo says "this is so totally not about blocksize"
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 22:28:57; trinque: ascii_field: thanks for the link to pcengines; very interesting to me for a variety of uses
trinque: the reddit post referencing hearn said "we could increase blocksize on xt in a week" 3 days gago
trinque: asciilifeform: your and other material has long since disabused me of the idea that I'll own a computer any time soon
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ayup, they are very singlemindedly following their talking pointsa.
mircea_popescu: and yes hearn is a better political animal than gavin, but not more intelligent
mircea_popescu: just, one admits to himself he's filth, the other does not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently the prophet is said to have forbidden, by some twerps
mircea_popescu: recall the case of the british terrorist who used caesar cypher because "excel smarter than anything the gyauri could have invented" ?
mircea_popescu: it is meaningless to speak of a revolutionary's desperation.
mircea_popescu: if he were not desperate ~of the world~ he would be pursuing a career.
mircea_popescu: if his desperation of the world meant what it usually means, he'd be long gone.
mircea_popescu: dude, i had to be the first one to show the concept of a map to random cairo cab driver.
mircea_popescu: what, you think women pop out smart people now or something ? what is this, the spherical future ?
mircea_popescu: the reason "export controls" work is that idiots perceive themselves as ~equal to everyone else.
mircea_popescu: because idiot's main concern is whether this makes the other guy better than him
mircea_popescu: in any shape or form the deal would have been a tech transfer, not an item sale.
mircea_popescu: anything but that. the chinese paid with slaves later on, and it took.
mircea_popescu: what was the name of that derpy french knownothing the english world went all gaga over earlier this year ?
mircea_popescu: well minus the monitor and deck tape, which are random items
mircea_popescu: the tim-s had a decent, steel spring actioned keyboard
mircea_popescu: they briefly used a "sealed flexible plastic sensor" bs, but got out of it within a year or so
mircea_popescu: the hc had a very retarded arrangement, where the straight rather than /-\ shaped keys caught, and so on.
mircea_popescu: but the tim-s was decent, about on par with today's no name chinese kbd
mircea_popescu: (significantly harder, ofcourse, but at the time most everyone was used to manual typewriters, which is maybe 10x the force anyone born after 1980 types with)
mircea_popescu: they prolly come in discount packages with leika film cams
mircea_popescu: she could be an anais nin of photography and he could be an henry miller of poetry
mircea_popescu: "Mai erau CIP-urile, pe care incarcai interpretorul BASIC de pe caseta, era nasol ca resetai si iti lua timp si incarcarea lui. In plus ii sareau tastele in permanenta, si pierdeai si arculetele de pix din ele, se rupeau piciorusele de plastic, era aiurea."
mircea_popescu: "it sucked because their keys kept jumping off and you'd lose the dumbass ballpointpen springs "
mike_c: mircea_popescu: that one isn't ringing a bell, but it looks fun :)
ben-of-the-casca: re eulora, dpb, ive found rocks and scratches mostly by looking for things further away than the bushes are rendering
danielpbarron: i can sell you a stack of the item that gives you it :D
danielpbarron: 1 of them isn't much; you don't get good results until it's mostly maxed out
mod6: i can give you one, i've only got 3.
danielpbarron: my laptop overheats and the game goes at 3 fps but that doesn't really effect game play yet
mod6: im getting 15-16 fps on my core i5 internal graphics card.
mod6: im the only guy in eulora right now
mod6: everyone else is at the club, making it rain
mod6: now if this kernel would just hurry up...
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 23:34:43; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron information-wise steep ?
danielpbarron: i haven't played a game that's like this in a long while
danielpbarron: it's annoying now, having to click so many times to do stuff, but I understand why each step is separate
danielpbarron: in the future, someone can specialize each step of production
☟︎ danielpbarron: is it possible to make the inventory interface more like that of minecraft?
danielpbarron: for example, when clicking a stack of items > 1, it should just pick up the whole thing by default
danielpbarron: and then you can have left-click right-click and shift-click drop varying amounts
decimation: usg's breach is significant - they lose personal information on people whom usg asks to keep secrets
decimation: cazalla: I thought only the us built shit homes
cazalla: decimation, at least the shit homes are somewhat cheaper there.. here you pay a cool million for place with no front/back yard made of straw
decimation: where does all this money come from? is it because people bid up AU$ because of the raw materials?
☟︎ cazalla: low interest rates, deposits are given to kids from boomers, chinese investment and truckloads of negative gearing ensuring people have 4-5 investment properties
decimation: people have to have income to qualify for loans
cazalla: nah you don't need 200k salary, you can borrow a million on like 50k
decimation: they've clamped down on lending in the us
decimation: you can't get a loan unless you have %20 and good credit
cazalla: quick look then shows working couple who earn 50k each can borrow almost 700k
decimation: wouldn't such a couple then be poor if they took such a 'deal'?
cazalla: mind you, that is pre-tax salary
cazalla: decimation, yeah most people are slaves.. 30 years ago it was possible for the average sole income working father, stay at home mum to buy a 1/4 acre block in the suburbs and raise 2-3 kids
cazalla: today you need both parents working full time with no kids or if you have kids, 1 or 2 at most put into childcare so the mother can pay half her wage for someone else to look after her kids while her other half goes on the mortgage
decimation: yeah that's how it is in most of the us today too
decimation: there's no fixed supply of dollars, so more people working just means more cost
cazalla: i don't even know why they do it tbh
decimation: in the us the effect is worsened by the fact that near most major us cities you need to have dual incomes to 'earn' a spot in a decent school
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 02:30:18; danielpbarron: in the future, someone can specialize each step of production
cazalla: decimation, here it is almost like every generation has to work twice as much for half of what their parents had
decimation: cazalla: I guess the most rational response would be to coordinate groups of people to move away from the dense cities and start new living areas
danielpbarron: speaking of which, is the leaky treebark flask design supposed to be blank?
cazalla: decimation, ah but there is no work in rural australia and if you are on welfare and move from an area of high employment to one of high unemployment, you get cut off
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 02:50:34; decimation: where does all this money come from? is it because people bid up AU$ because of the raw materials?
cazalla: decimation, so to go rural, you need enough money to own it upfront and enough to last you for however long you may live
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nope. it's supposed to have been fixed like three revisions ago o.O
cazalla: decimation, and rural.. as in the middle of nowhere, you are still paying more (100k-200k) than american suburbs
decimation: cazalla: yeah I guess my point is that they could start a new city there
decimation: but it sounds like that's already been priced out
decimation: why some wasteland in australia is worth $100k...
decimation: even good farmland in iowa goes for $5k an acre
cazalla: you can go cheaper - abandoned mining towns - but then you have to deal with fucked up water and environment
cazalla: might set you back 50k for that
decimation: yeah I agree with mircea, it sounds to me that the chinese have bid australia to the moon
cazalla: yeah, they can buy citizenship here too for 5 million so those clever chinese were giving the AU gov 5 million, borrowing the 5 million back from some chinese lender and then using that to buy 5 million in property once they got here
cazalla: i'd like to think it will end soon as i don't see how people can be squeezed any further at this point but asciilifeform reminded me that there is still much fat left to be trimmed
cazalla: fwiw, missus and i have no rent or mortgage and it is still hard
cazalla: so i imagine those people with mortgages will soon eat chum (dog food) if they are not already
cazalla: i mean, kid my age who lived on my street regularly ate his cat's cat food
mod6: omg and we have grub that works...
decimation: you can live on rice and beans pretty cheap
mod6: trinque's script & help got this pos up and running on gentoo hardened w/uclibc finally.
mod6: i had a problem with my disk paritions
cazalla: decimation, aussies like their meat, pet food or not
mod6 straps on a napkin and eats a sack of dead crows
cazalla: birds might be easier tbh plus the abo word for budgerigar is good eating
cazalla: with no guns, having to spear or tackle a roo could get you killed, fucking things kick
decimation: heh oh yeah I forgot they took yer guns too
decimation: mircea_popescu: how do you think they will be described by chinese historians 1000 years from now?
cazalla: yeah, bow and arrow ban in the pipeline too
cazalla: meh, they aren't really any abos left anyway, they are all half bloods at best
decimation: no, I think mircea meant the people who are willing to trade hard assets to the chinese in exchange for paper and promises
cazalla: but even if you're 1/8 abo, you can claim extra assistance from the government, so according to the census there are more abos than ever before
decimation: the natives have the same racket here, and also in canada
decimation: asciilifeform: interesting the 'me.com' and 'mac.com'
decimation: asciilifeform: you ever heard of a 'model f'
decimation: still you could use his mod as a starting point
decimation: at any rate I like that keyboard for sale, lots of reassignable keys
decimation: also model f keyboards were full "nkro"
decimation: yeah it really only matters for gamers who wann mash 5 keys at once
decimation: heh. I wonder if that's a serial output
decimation: the 'model f' I linked appears to have 'meta' key
decimation: asciilifeform: did you get it to work as 'ps/2'?
assbot: Memo to Ethereum Foundation Council: impudence begins with calling your investors “donors” | StandardCrypto ... (
http://bit.ly/1eau47L )
Vexual: thanks, whats that for?
Vexual: fluffypony: you should see the roo aside the road that flexes as though it might jump
Vexual: trollish fuckers would surely time a bound to land on one or your lions heads mario style
Vexual: you're not playing mp's doom wad punkman?
Vexual: hey if i can build it i will come
punkman: there are binaries built already, you'll need to gpg for an account though
Vexual: what have you been doing?
Vexual: yes yes, a different affair from 12 months ago where i attempted to build
Vexual: it definately want ready then
Vexual: its a 3rd person 3d thing huh?
Vexual: ie is it low on bullshit lightning etc
Vexual: in any case it seems like many folks will wanna focus on it
Vexual: i heard about screenshots, but now that the logs are a 4 drink minimum, i missed em
Vexual: sold to facebook and microsoft
punkman: well everyone would want to use a headset looking under women's skirts
punkman: but probably not happening
Vexual: theres a jap demo for that
punkman: gotta say the CryEngine looks nice
Vexual: i thought u were all cga
punkman: can't fit much in 320 pixels
Vexual: gotta pay someone to move around with text based advice?
Vexual: well mp did say new clients are welcomed
Vexual: play it on ur audi dash
Vexual: just dont confuse the maps
Vexual: shit, ive heard the name, i never knew they fancied themselves as bankers
Vexual: do the girls dress fancy?
Vexual: i dont remeber a shanxigirl in nanjing
assbot: xcthulhu comments on Does eth intend to release financial statements, investor relations reports, etc.? ... (
http://bit.ly/1cSrsdj )
kakobrekla: > folks keep trying to offer me mining gigs in exotic places < lol, yeah i also can get a job as a diaper changer in a local nursery
kakobrekla: or dunno, dance with the devil and take the ssd :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dja eat the 24g or whatever it had for teh maths ? or can spare the 4g ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think the bag makers can be blamed for this one
kakobrekla: would moving the file to ramdisk make a diff?
mircea_popescu: you know templeos is only a step in that direction, i'd like to see unix skinned by valley girls, upper east side hipsters, mexicans, etc.
menahem: hey mircea_popescu, what is your backup plan? in the event someone like the USG ..tries.. to pwn you? mpex, coins, etc?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00038517 = 1.9259 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 05:49:56; mircea_popescu: i suppose that's the ultimate girl toilet, what is all this "lift the seat, lower the seat" bs.
menahem: ya, I have. mostly I guess in the event of physical illness.. an heir of sorts ?
mircea_popescu: and i intend to withdraw long before advanced age makes the crown too heavy to carry. i have a fucking life to live outside of public service.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah because the receptacle appears rigid. girls pee at many angles.
menahem: sznipers, chemical concoctions, etc.
mircea_popescu: menahem what you don't likely know is that i lived a decade and change of my life previously also with people tastiung my food etc.
menahem: in other words, you've mentally hard wired protections for yourself ?
mircea_popescu: bequeath “my sword to him that shall succeed me in my pilgrimage, and my courage and skill to him that can get it.”
mircea_popescu: eh you should drink it. for one thing, there's more for victory, and for another bottled champagne doens't keep forever.
menahem: it's well on its way, from what i gather.
kakobrekla: so the SEC will get sec wine, no problemos.
Naphex: still fixing shitload of ui javascript issuess
fluffypony: Naphex: saw it announced on Reddit, well done
Naphex: fluffypony: thanks man
Naphex: mircea_popescu: javascript and flash required so fire up the lowly ones:P
fluffypony: for that sort of thing it is nice that Chrome has Flash baked in
fluffypony: but how will you browse without JavaScript animationzzzzz
Naphex: fluffypony: no idea :))
Naphex: so much to debug in angularjs
fluffypony: I have a love/hate relationship with Angular
mircea_popescu: Naphex well everything loads but no video plays, dunno if there was supposed to play anything
Naphex: mircea_popescu: the first link went in pause try the browse channel
Naphex: mircea_popescu: a lot more to clean up and annoying js bugs around but yeha went fine:D
mircea_popescu: well browse's broken on this browser, no doubt on account of it being prolly too old. anyway.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: try chrome, only tested in chrome atm
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron bingoboingo an' any other b-a single gentlemen - if you want to try this out ima give you a bitcent to tip the chciks and then you can pester naphex with how broken it is. dump addies.
danielpbarron: unsafe:bitcoin:1FuKNdUgR1ytXnVNAiXCYS7whP99e2vj43?label=XotikaTV
Naphex: btw, i'm hiring angular/javascript coders for the frontend. if anyone interested shoot me a /m \
Naphex: payments in bitcoin, ofc
danielpbarron: >> Ultimately this is yet another reason why Bitcoin is not money; it is something that is collectively controlled by consensus, unlike money which is accepted by consensus. In any new definition of money there should be a clause saying that its nature is independent of anyone's opinion or act.
mircea_popescu: Essentially, “Megablock Bitcoin” will be exactly like the Apple App Store. <<< mmmm yeah.
danielpbarron: >> This is in large part due to a nostalgia for the Bitcoin of the past. As Bitcoin grows, we cannot guarantee which parts of the accidental benefits will still be present. However, the fundamental properties must remain. Without it, Bitcoin offers nothing that isn't already offered.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 21:29:47; asciilifeform: the idea in the article can (and has) been rephrased like this. if you remove all the 'suggestively-named strings' like 'understand' - and replace with 'gensyms' - e.g., 100324 - does the resulting machine still do or even appear to do anything of interest?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3510 @ 0.00038168 = 1.3397 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: to be perfectly fair, in the same session i also explained my view on cheating on university examinations,
mircea_popescu: specifically that it is not merely cheating to be given in advance the questions which will constitute the exam (which, to my undying amazement, i found out is by now actually standard practice in the us), but even to be given any sort of selected reading material that contains a larger density of answers than the average for the entire world text.
mircea_popescu: usually known as "course material", ie, "these few pageswhich if you read, you should be able to answer anything"
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2014 00:11:01; mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class
mircea_popescu: university is important because the close physical proximity is a requisite for fucking in retards, and students are yet retarded
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21290 @ 0.00038168 = 8.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63637 @ 0.00038119 = 24.2578 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, "fucking in retards", like "reproduction in mammals"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4077 @ 0.00038384 = 1.5649 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but that said, the wot model does dispense with most of the previous advantages of university
mircea_popescu: so no, i don't see any sort of future for that model, which is EXACTLY why i pointed out to tim whatshisname that either he gets with the program or he goes live in the sewer.
mircea_popescu: like, you knock off to decimation and two friends over gossipd "can you ploxpoint your microtelescope at the x y z and send me the dump ?"
mircea_popescu: so if i want a 3d printed item, which university i call ?
mircea_popescu: you will notice that the capital base of the oldmodel is dying into irreelvancy
mircea_popescu: research either happens on 500 dollar 3d printers, or else on 500 trillion hadron colliders
mircea_popescu: thgere's going to be one of the latter and an infinity of the former.
mircea_popescu: this is kind-of why it's so damned important we start making right things
mircea_popescu: if you need anything that has to be made on something in the middle, make it now.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: because it's unlikely you'll be able to in the future.
mircea_popescu: just like if you wanted a good plate mail, have it made in 1650.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ftr : i don't expect the electric grid will cease to exist.
mircea_popescu: i suppose a version of the above "make it now" is what drives your hoarding behaviour
mircea_popescu: it can be purely platonic, "you may touch the instruments" thing
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, you ever computed aggregate monthly utilisation of your capital goods ?
mircea_popescu: and obviously mike & gavincoin's dog and pony show have yet to address the fact that "hey, we are ehtereum 2.0, we have the support of "investors" and so on"
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 06:56:20; punkman: Eulora would work nice as a MUD
assbot: kaykurokawa: Front running Decentralized Exchanges: The problem with Augur, Bitshares, Nxt, and Counterparty ... (
http://bit.ly/1QvEwaQ )
danielpbarron: found this while researching why XCP went up 30% over the last few days
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00038384 = 8.3485 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: >> Disclaimer: We are long XCP. While everyone was out chasing unicorn dust in alts, we have been accumulating XCP, bitchez.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron "bitcoin hardliners" is becoming the #1 strawman. #shitlibertardssay
mircea_popescu: the opinions about the Mysts of Mystery emitted by fans of the power rangers and co.
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 01:27:23; asciilifeform: today's disposables have no springs, only rubber bulbs (molded into a sheet)
danielpbarron: I now have to use a full size keyboard plugged into my laptop; thing might as well be a desktop now especially since wifi hasn't worked ever since I switched from ubuntu to gentoo
danielpbarron: it's surprising how many sentences I can type without access to the letter 'b' but ultimately I end up needing it quite a bit (barron, bitcoin, bible)
kakobrekla: or just use 'lorrd', 'nonscamcoin', and 'the fairy tale' instead.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00038517 = 11.2084 BTC [+]
trinque: danielpbarron: to the xmodmap with ye
danielpbarron: it didn't occur to me to even try replacing a keyboard on a laptop
danielpbarron is ok with occasionally reaching to the floor to press the 'b' key
mod6: <+danielpbarron> it's surprising how many sentences I can type without access to the letter 'b' but ultimately I end up needing it quite a bit (barron, bitcoin, bible) << reminds me of my broken 'O' key on my asus laptop these guys saw at c3. i still havent fixed it. haha.
mod6: i have a $100 car that the drivers side window doesn't roll down, and the passenger side doesn't roll up. no rear view mirror (it fell off) and the side mirror is taped on with Ninja Turtle ductape.
mod6: (it's like -25 F sometimes here in the winter. try driving down the freeway with that!)
mod6: but the idea here is that i put no $ into it, and when the wheels fall off, i'll pitch the keys on the seat and go find another.
mod6: *nod* i went so long without a car, it's hard for me to spend any money on that stuff at all. if i could still get away with not having one, i would.
mod6: speaking of which... i think i've got one wheelbearing that's about to sieze
mod6: sounds horrible. lol
mod6: i used to wrench on stuff a lot myself, but now (last ~15 years) have no time. too much comp stuff to work on.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0003785 = 10.3709 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: my old man would be horrified that i don't fix the shit on my car. he was a "car guy". used to wrench on stuff, build his own racecars, was an expert mechanic.
trinque: pain in the ass to work on cars if you don't have the right garage setup to do it
mod6: that's about 75% of the battle yes. tools + place to work on the stuff.
trinque: I still change my oil in the apt parking lot, but wouldn't bother with much more than that
mod6: i haven't changed the oil on this pos since i bought it. but then again, i've only put on like 2800 miles.
mod6: i don't drive very much, and if i do, it's not very far.
mod6: i guess i did throw in a quart once. but that doesn't count. sob is probably dying to have the filter & oil changed.
trinque: making oil candles in there
mod6: yeah, it's not good. its a 2000 oldsmobile.
mod6: i actually got a decent deal on it for $100, it would probably be $1000 if i bought it from a used car lot or something. bought it from a friend.
mod6: the car we saw in .ar with the clubs, that's probably a $3 car. lol
mod6: damn thing probably runs tho. *shrug*
trinque: I once sold a car for $125, was probably in way worse shape than yours
trinque: 87 300zx with about 250k on it
trinque: I still drove it at that point
trinque: bumper started melting lol
mod6: hahah, that's awesome.
trinque: slammed bad going 1st-2nd-3rd
trinque: interior was leather at one point
mod6: i just can't figure it out why someone would want to pay $300/mo for 6-7 years on a car loan for something "new" or "reasonable"
trinque: I'll drive my current vw til it catches fire
mod6: haha, man old worn leather does not hold up good. i know what you mean.
mod6: tranny was bad too 'eh
trinque: had a lot of fun in that car though, got it at 16
mod6: i once had an 1983 pontiac perrisan <sp> station wagon. it had 300`000 miles on it. got it for $750. it always made me laugh because when i shut it off, it would keep knocking for like ~20 seconds. then backfire super loud.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00038517 = 10.284 BTC [+]
mod6: yah srsly. it was a 9 passenger vehicle.
mod6: i looked idiotic driving it around, im sure.
mod6: but that was back in the day where cars were still made with full steel frames. thing weighed 4000 lbs.
mod6: had a chev 305 in it. ran pretty nice.
trinque: in the good old days, *you* were the crumple-zone
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> what other kinds of broken everyday objects do you folks put up with ? << my (**picks up keyboard**) bicycle's breaks are shot and the gear shifter is sketchy
danielpbarron: t-shirts have holes in them, iphone won't charge unless i rubber band the cable into the right position, etc..
mod6: my old man had one of the 1983 mercedes 380SLs.. but yeah i don't think it weighed nearly as much as those bigger frame ones like yours (MP) or Pete D's.
danielpbarron: tea kettle's pin that the valve pivots on is loose and falling out
mod6: well, and that thing was a convert too.. so, obv less weight there.
mod6: heh, it shipped with .de license plates
mod6: sweet, kernel is done
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3398 @ 0.00038509 = 1.3085 BTC [-]
mod6: this pos box, i can hear the disk spining. "GRRRR GRRRR GRR GGRRRRRRR"
mod6: i paid more for this pos then the damn car.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66020 @ 0.0003888 = 25.6686 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5580 @ 0.0004082 = 2.2778 BTC [+]
mod6 wonders off to create a guide
jurov: and i wondered off the eulora server. event will take place after chetty fixes it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5535 @ 0.00040567 = 2.2454 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28564 @ 0.00041722 = 11.9175 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 17:52:56; danielpbarron: found this while researching why XCP went up 30% over the last few days
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 19:35:58; trinque: exhaust pipe rusted off
trinque mumbles something about forgiveness vs permission
jurov: lucky bastards. i was caught, was not fined but had to prop up my old daewoo by about 300 euro (using dubious parts) to keep it legal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41053 @ 0.00041202 = 16.9147 BTC [-]
jurov: well, something something hindsight. it was relatively luxurious, got it from a friend who cared for it, and it did work fine for 2 years.
kakobrekla: i paid more bitcoins than you euros for mine tho.
jurov: hi kalki, you can speak now
kalki: thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice toss... so just seeking some soun
☟︎ kalki: also, I am noticing that when I log in to #bitcoin-assets, just before it transports me to the room, it says at the bottom of the screen that this nickname is already taken and that I should verify ownership or something... I assume this means that I need to find a new nickname and that it is not talking about me just because I have been using it a couple months here..
kalki: funkenstein, it is the latest mac client 2015.06
funkenstein_: i don't mac, but methinks you can add a couple special chars without losing entropy
kalki: funkenstein, the wiki says for WOT that I should generate a gpg if I dont already have one... so do folks typically use just one key? or is it smart to have a seperate one for WOT distinct from communication etc?
kalki: also thanks for your help!
funkenstein_: no prob :) I have only one, it's easier that way. But if you want another distinct identity you can make as many as you want.
jurov: if you're a beginner, no use to complicates tuff by using multiple keys
kalki: jurov, funkenstein, ok and thanks again I shall proceed
pete_dushenski: kalki: don't worry too much about the 'advice' of the newest mac pgp client
pete_dushenski: it's designed to be 'user-friendly' for fiatheads who typically use the same password everywhere
pete_dushenski: not that you can't add a few symbols or make the second-last letter of every diceware word a capital if you so desire
kalki: ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i haven't used the newest mac version, but it doesn't usually take that long
jurov: ^ mentioning that, if you plan to use the key seriously, use 4096bit
pete_dushenski: just looking at 'gpg suits 2015.06' update and it actually adds some sensible improvements to the default settings
pete_dushenski: 1) gpg version omitted, 2) revocation certification auto-generated, 3) auto-encrypt drafts, 4) warning message for idiots like travis patron that they're about to send an unencrypted reply to an encrypted message
☟︎ assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1JQxmsc )
cazalla: they tried their best pete_dushenski, is that not good enough for you?!
punkman: my favourite words from the ethereum transcript: "strategic visioning"
pete_dushenski: cazalla: lol i guess i'm one of those unreasonable assholes who doesn't understand how the world works
pete_dushenski: punkman: it's the kind of thing readily accomplished while sitting on the toilet
pete_dushenski: "strategic visioning" doesn't require that anything even be written down
pete_dushenski: it's more of a sense of things to come, a feeling of how valhalla might look
punkman: "when I was at Visa, I was leading an R&D group on Machine Learning that was experimenting with Hadoop for near real-time analytics of purchases. anyway we worked a year on that thing, and it was awesome, but one day we get invited by another group at Visa who want to show us something ‘amazing'."
punkman: "turns out my team and theirs had been working on the same thing and we didn’t even know about each other."
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell bingoboingo that 'reddit outrage' piece is impossible to read dude. breaking start-up/startup into two words might give you two s.qntr shares but it makes shit unreadable and frankly a bit annoying. tighten it up, smarten it up, eh.
jurov: the chan needs some faggotry
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> how many three-legged tables, chairs ? << i for one would rather have three-legged furniture: 3 points define a plane; any more and you have an overconstrained and rocking system
menahem:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163644 << bahaha, travis patron. "Travis Patron is a singularity researcher and cybereconomist most well-known for his thought leadership into digital economies such as bitcoin... You can find him in Toronto, apathetic towards voting while hunting banksters for spare organs."
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