mircea_popescu: who da fuck is this nick ? he knew it plain two decades prior.
mircea_popescu: Oh, for an honest Libertarian who would say "Yes, in Libertopia we'd have rampant quackery, organ-seizure, baby-selling, slavery in all but name - BUT THAT'S FREEDOM!" ~Seth Finkelstein
mircea_popescu: as it happens, i've been saying exactly that. course, the honest libertarian apparently doesn't personally use the terminology of some random polis to describe himself, nor does the random polis readily recognize him, and so... seth's safe.
mircea_popescu: “We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. ” ~Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89
mircea_popescu: “Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by their associations.” 1896 ~John Dewey, of the dewey system.
thestringpuller: still good metric to have if you expect to decrypt backup from it
undata: asciilifeform: current political footballs include immigration and climate change...
undata: seems like he could've leaked us having gas chambers and the response would've been similar
undata: asciilifeform: could be
undata: it wouldn't shock me if people have some hard-wiring to accept abuse from authority
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
undata: ^ I found that a fascinating way of describing it.
undata: yeah, I suspect they're paying people very well to find clever ways to subvert the language
undata: asciilifeform: hm, all ears
undata: asciilifeform: is this some kind of cowardly reaction to mortality?
undata: "if I just believe the leader, I will be saved"
decimation: "Global capital is pouring into the USD" << USD, the original altcoin
undata: asciilifeform: "house slaves" ?
undata: seems like the inmate has no choice but to accept the jailer/inmate dynamic, and then in madness runs for the higher symbolic ground
undata: whereas in the case of the guy who denies he's in a gas chamber, he's straining his best to deny the category
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> could call it.. the brockchain << YOU STOP THAT
ben_vulpes: a i figured chrome tried to turn it into text, rendered it
ben_vulpes: but asciilifeform's server is setting a text header?
decimation: mike_c: "To enforce the law one must be above the reach of the law" is pretty much the US m.o. since... Nixon at least << nah, Nixon was actually trying to clean house, was pushed out by those who are above the law
decimation: asciilifeform: I've been reading Herr Kokkarinen, there are some great quotes there: "Instead of being some hardcore immigration restrictionist, I very much look forward to the future when we white devils become a minority in all Western countries... We educated conservative white males will prosper in the Balkanized low-trust society whose overburdened social welfare net has run out of other people's money and collapsed into a
decimation: bitter ethnic struggle over the few remaining spoils"
decimation: "The Brazilification of society can be a samba carnival assuming you approach it the right way, and most importantly, get to live on the pleasant side of the barbed wire fence."
decimation: "Naturally, we should also immediately start rationing those scarce medical nuclear isotopes used in cancer treatments, so that those who oppose nuclear power would always be the last in the priority queue to receive them."
undata: AML/KYC on a vending machine.
undata: a vending machine for numbers
cazalla: danielpbarron: you could stream pokemon trades through ashbot << i lolled
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assbot: 336 results for '"structuring"' - #bitcoin-assets search
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punkman: stemming's handy, gotta be able to turn it off though
undata: message ilike '%term%' and ...
undata: or postgres has some full text niceness
undata: -ify, -ly, etc, tends to make me think the company will go under soon
undata: asciilifeform: is that your branding company name?
nubbins`: i made korean food for supper and it was so goddamn good
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: doubtless the requirement varies based on jurisdiction. if its anything like the Robocoin ATM at the Hacker Dojo in Mt View, it'll be 1. palm print 2. photo 3. govt id
nubbins`: i wonder what percentage of startups had their names chosen by pentecostals
mats_cd03: in the case of that idiot ATM, you have to provide all 3
nubbins`: TheNewDeal unfortunately with no korean market here, side dishes are a practical impossibility
nubbins`: i was barely able to scrape together ingredients for what i made
nubbins`: but still. first decent kimbap i've had in ages
TheNewDeal: I had some spicy goat soup earlier this week, was delicious
mats_cd03: the least refined cuisine of any culture i have ever had
mats_cd03: ok, terrible is excessive. but certainly least creative
mats_cd03: i'm also not a big fan of koreans. so i'm biased.
nubbins`: korean food is the pinnacle of cuisine
nubbins`: it is literally the only thing i miss about that place, and i miss it SO BAD.
mats_cd03: kbbq and kimchi is literally the only thing anybody in the known universe recalls of korean food
undata is unaware if that is americanized korean food
undata: mats_cd03: I also love kimchi, come at me bro
nubbins`: kimbap, kimchi jjigae, mandoo, ddeok bokki, bibimbap, omu rice...
nubbins`: undata kimchi is literally eaten with every meal
nubbins`: like, breakfast? kimchi and rice
mats_cd03: ive never traveled there TheNewDeal
undata: nubbins`: you do, or that's standard practice
nubbins`: i hate cold kimchi. but that's standard practice
undata: korans, world-class poopers.
nubbins`: there are -- no joke -- special appliances the size of large deep-freezes called kimchi fridges
undata: I see no problem with that.
mats_cd03: used to be they'd just put the ingredients in a clay pot and bury it.
nubbins`: nah, it's great. when was the last time you saw a new major kitchen appliance that you'd never heard of?
nubbins`: mats_cd03 lots of old folks still do
undata: nubbins`: all the time, but alas, I am an uncultured southerner
nubbins`: you gotta get that old shit, like 1 year +
decimation: in south korea they sell 'kimchi machines'
undata: "It is also often served with the Korean alcoholic beverage makgeolli, which helps diners cope with the pungency of the fermented dish." << gold.
decimation: they look like freezers, but really are designed to hold the fish guts at the right temp and humidity to ferment
undata: I like eating fermented rot as much as the next guy, but come on people, standards!
nubbins`: decimation we were literally just talking about that
nubbins`: <+nubbins`> there are -- no joke -- special appliances the size of large deep-freezes called kimchi fridges
decimation: heh sorry I'm not there yet in the logs
decimation: any building in korea where kimchi is made has a permanent 'stank'
☟︎ nubbins`: you have no idea how many buildings that describes
TheNewDeal: better than fish sauce... that stuff smells horrid
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TheNewDeal: Walked by a dumpster at a sushi joint and I almost vomitted
decimation: when I lived on the east coast I used to walk to work. at one corner, there was a 'crab shack' with a dumpster - in the summer the smell was repulsive for at least 500 feet
mats_cd03: durian is a weapon of mass destruction
mats_cd03: as a young man i ruined the interior of a rival's BMW with durian extract i bought on the internets
mats_cd03: i still have the vial, half full. 'for emergencies'.
mats_cd03: ya. it lives in a box lined with dryer sheets
cazalla: asciilifeform, don't forget the camera
cazalla: who is gonna use such a thing? i don't even need to be technically minded to know there is no chance i would use a wallet with a camera
kakobrekla: sorry i forgot which model you had, recalled the brand.
decimation: asciilifeform: is there a good free vhdl simulator w/timing analysis?
decimation: yeah it is annoying how you must put 50 lines of pro-forma crap before you actually code
kakobrekla: asciilifeform to let us know they spend more on the video than their tech gear
nubbins`: cazalla something like this might let you have a bit more usable real estate on the sidebar
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nubbins`: those ul bullets are taking up a massive amount of space
cazalla: <asciilifeform> cazalla: ^ consider for 'qntra' <<< amusing now that i've googled what a solder bridge is, i wouldn't want to add it and act smug as if i knew prior though
cazalla: nubbins`, i'll defer to BingoBoingo for that
cazalla: asciilifeform, maybe post it as a comment then you can get credit for pointing it out
decimation: I don't get it, some blonde rambling is loathesome?
nubbins`: cazalla BingoBoingo the underlined links should also go, they look not nice
decimation watched without skipping, realizes the loathesomeness
decimation: lol that guy put like a gallon of solder on that dip
nubbins`: how does it steal my bitcoins?
nubbins`: they don't touch on that at all
decimation: that clip is a parade of every nerd stereotype
kakobrekla: > Melanie excels at using the most up-to-date social tools to creatively promote a brand and attract relevant customers.
decimation: ;;rate -1 melanie_shapiro crass propagandist
gribble: Error: 'melanie_shapiro' is not a valid integer.
decimation: ;;rate melanie_shapiro -1 crass propagandist
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
nubbins`: dat cable of appropriate length
decimation: if that were a EE senior design project I would give it an F
decimation: asciilifeform: I like how he just keeps applying more solder
decimation: also note he isn't actually soldering anything together
kakobrekla: dafuq do you know, maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode hanging for no reason to make it work
decimation: maybe they have some secret new technique for joining circuitry with solder bridges
decimation: asciilifeform: the page I linked above does list her prominent bezzle connections
decimation: I suppose this is what became "resistance through culture"
decimation: that's an interesting point. it would 'have value' even behind the iron curtain
decimation: in the middle ages, trade in 'relics' was pretty much the same thing
decimation: perhaps the religion of the age can be identified by its idol trade
decimation: especially if the forgery is the ugly canvas-vomit of some drunken fag-hag
decimation: of course, 'forging' the work of old masters (imitating it openly) is also virtuous
decimation: now if only we could forge yachts and Manhattan condos
decimation: asciilifeform: the story and the source indicates the idea-balloon has been floated
decimation: 'only an enemy of the state would use cash'
BingoBoingo: Eh, US will probably have to bring back Woodrow Wilson bills sometime these next couple decades
BingoBoingo: Gotta bribe the tribal chiefs with something
assbot: I will soon put the finger that fell off in the poker tournament on eBay for sale
decimation: > It is certainly amazing how technology and commerce allow mass production of plastic spoons to be sold for three cents apiece, well worth the time and convenience they save me. However, all centrally planned green policies and their wannabe implementers always assign zero value for other people's time and convenience. Since the left instinctively despises everything that gives normal people more time, freedom or material wealth,
decimation: they have always hated suburbs, nuclear power, shopping malls, automobiles... and plastics, which could not exist under a centrally planned green economy. I would therefore like to ask all my readers to take a look around them and note everything plastic, and then say a quiet "thank you" to the right-wingers who made it possible for everything that Brutopians consider "wasteful" to exist at all. << Herr Kokkarinen
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cazalla: BingoBoingo, when is the grand jury decision due?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: No set date, but... probably happening soon
punkman: "I'll be willing to complete the beta as quickly as possible if people want to donate some BTC to me, this way I can show the wife it's more like a job than a hobby. As to the amount, I think 250BTC would be enough to get her off my back"
mircea_popescu: punkbot tell this man's wife 0.1 BTC and tits already.
punkman: all that uptime, I must make it disconnect more
punkman: yeah I mean it'd change back to notary if it disconnects, but otherwise not smart enough yet
mircea_popescu: "It will be as revolutionary as mcxNOW was originally in 2013." << i clearly missed out on yet another biggestfirstbest revolution
mircea_popescu had no idea how great a qntra will be until qntra was finally made, and now he's like... omfg how did i live before.
BingoBoingo: Thanks, benefit of having last November's mcxNAO article I wrote to crib off of.
mircea_popescu: So people are asking what is happening with MicroCash, especially in regards to me. There are 2 problems I ran into in late May. 1) Needing to make some money 2) Lack of motivation
BingoBoingo: To think that the Ad platform was going to come before a place to park an ad platform!
mircea_popescu: I know people think "one day" SolidCoin/MicroCash will be worth a lot but it's hard to sell that to a wife as I'm sure some of you may be aware! <<< actually, it's difficult to sell that generally.
mircea_popescu: 4. CH releases article "Solidcoin Ready For Bitcoin Collapse".
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha oh the precious. reminds me of all the forum ninnies getting ready for "mp's extradition!11"
punkman: Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, a sort of wanna-be -assets minus the cool stuff.
mircea_popescu: "What would government involvement in Bitcoin look like? Well one of their first goals would be to let the project stagnate. The disappearance of the founder "Satoshi" and appointment of Gavin Andresen, someone who has publicly admitted he doesn't want much to change in Bitcoin allows us to see one big reason for stagnation." << from the solidcoin derpage.
mircea_popescu: clearly, "stagnation" is what the progressive state wants out of things :D
mircea_popescu: "After developing numerous sites and businesses using Bitcoin, those of us now involved with SolidCoin saw major problems. Massive flaws in interfacing with the Bitcoin network forced us to use numerous work-arounds, using nearly all of our decades long experience as computer scientists."
mircea_popescu: luckily, he has some of the decades left, it's not all used.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let the record reflect that yes, there was a point in 2011 when gavin was sane.
mircea_popescu: "We wondered why nobody fixed the issues and made things easier for the many out there that aren't computer engineers. After some discussion with a few of the developers we came away completely surprised. They thought, and still do, Bitcoin is fine and very little needs to change."
mircea_popescu: "On top of this the recent release of SolidCoin has highlighted another problem in the Bitcoin protocol. It it susceptible to a drop off in "mining power", which is essentially the people who process transactions switching to more profitable things such as SolidCoin."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: it will be a 'temporary relocation center' to them, even when the shower heads start hissing out the zyklon. <<< well, as tal said to pete, "what's my incentive to interact with reality ?"
mircea_popescu: decimation: mike_c: "To enforce the law one must be above the reach of the law" is pretty much the US m.o. since... Nixon at least << nah, Nixon was actually trying to clean house, was pushed out by those who are above the law << what, he gets points for trying ? there's better ways to clean things up than sending spooks to derp in offices.
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mircea_popescu: decimation: "The Brazilification of society can be a samba carnival assuming you approach it the right way, and most importantly, get to live on the pleasant side of the barbed wire fence." <<< this has been exactly my experience to date.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ^ #b-a search is broken. why am i seeing text that does not contain the literal word 'structuring' ? <<< mthreat's thing has a stemmer.
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mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: durian is a weapon of mass destruction <<< you thinking Duriel ?
mircea_popescu: ""We are the most secure option because we're a piece of dedicated hardware. We use multi-sig authentication. There are three keys and each of those keys is stored in a different location.""
mircea_popescu: i don't get this braindamage. "we're the most secure option because you don't actually own your keys" ?
mircea_popescu: decimation: also here's her PhD:
http://shesquad.com/melanie-shapiro/ "Dr. Melanie Shapiro holds a PhD in Consumer Behavior and specializes in customer acquisition, branding strategy and digital marketing. " <<< ahh this chan delivers.
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: dafuq do you know, maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode hanging for no reason to make it work <<< this is how i used to solder things!
mircea_popescu: punkman ever get the impression that everyone's really working on the same thing ?
mircea_popescu: if they dropped the act and just got together maybe they';d finish it and then we could ignore an actual thing
mircea_popescu: assbot: U.S. Should Quit $100 Bill to Stop N. Korea Counterfeiting <<< yeah, THAT is why they'll quit it lmao
mircea_popescu: in other news, overweight redditards don't go out of the house for fear of rapists. not as you might imagine, for lack of long enough tanktracks
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mircea_popescu: decimation: I would therefore like to ask all my readers to take a look around them and note everything plastic, and then say a quiet "thank you" to the right-wingers <<< imo that argument fails on pretty much all the angles.
mircea_popescu: aside the obvious objection that "right wingers" have nothing to do with all this, and aside the spurious conflation of plastics and nuclear power,
mircea_popescu: on one hand three cents is an insane price to pay for a plastic spoon. those things go for about a bitcoin a ton. so whatever, 500 satoshi each ?
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, outside some very narrow applicaitons such as i dunno, oversized icecream cones, i don't actually use nor would i want to use a plastic spoon. because what for ? do i need it to eat my campaign flan and i'm too far from an actual table with actual cutlery or something ?
mircea_popescu: see, it's stupidities of this sort that make me never want to visit places.
punkman: do they probe your ass if you want to buy a metal knife?
mircea_popescu: da fuck, pay money to go be somewhere where they want your id for plastic knives ?
cazalla: punkman, they'll arrest you for carrying a knife unless you happen to have a fishing rod with you, are a chef.. some "legitimate excuse" for having a knife in other words
punkman: I remember buying bread knife in UK, cashier advised "don't open it before you get home"
mircea_popescu remebers buying machete in costa rica, from roadside shop
punkman: was impossible to open plastic packaging without second knife anyway
cazalla: mircea_popescu, knives are a controlled weapon here, self defence is no excuse! in fact, worst excuse one can have
mircea_popescu: i suppose the 10 buns in a package producer lobby is working as we speak to make the bread knife illegal.
cazalla: technically, you can't even carry a screwdriver unless legitimate reason
punkman: they should ban clothes, could use them to strangle people
mircea_popescu: cazalla is this in fact just giving the police ample room to hassle obnoxious teenagers ?
cazalla: prolly, never heard of anyone being arrested for this sort of shit but prob happens from time to time
cazalla: i wonder if boomerangs are illegal
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cazalla: you have a new fan BingoBoingo, see your latest article
mircea_popescu: here's a good one, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, whoever else can follow the logic :
mircea_popescu: "Elimination of output scripts: all transactions pay-to-scripthash, probably with a single byte indicating the scripthash type. Other than reducing effective output script secrecy (which is not possible without OP_EVAL anyways) this is believed to be costless, and the secrecy can be recovered with recursive OP_EVAL. The motivation here is that data in outputs is far more expensive than inputs because some outputs may b
mircea_popescu: e never prunable, and pay-to-scripthash minimizes output size without harming total size."
cazalla: anyway zzz, needed a beer after installing gentoo and trying to install xfce, throws all these USE flags required and other shit, mircea_popescu recommended for noobs my ass, i'll smash the laptop
mircea_popescu: sorry c man. but think about it like the girl thinks of her virginity
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Gassho: ty hi going to nap bye
Gassho falls asleep before napping
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BingoBoingo: Tattoos, piercing, cutting, assorted minor surgeries
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BingoBoingo: Perhaps he sought to put beads where beads ought not be put?
BingoBoingo: If this lottery were a think, gut bacterium probably wouldn't be the worst outcome. At least gut bacterium lack the faculties to realizes it is going to die for the cause of turdbuilding.
BingoBoingo: Well this whole Jesus thing has kind of been a huge bummer for Western civilization ever since the Romans started taking it seriously
chetty: at least the 'pagan' religions had some fun
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mod6: mircea_popescu: maybe an idea to make a proper list ? << Yup. I'll start a list of proper list. Will let you know when I've got something to show.
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kakobrekla: maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode << someone did not grasp 'solder bridge.' < a no grasped just fine. its common to see two pads on pcb instead of a pins + jumper.
kakobrekla has done a fair bit of soldering 10 or so years ago. mostly on gpus of the time.
kakobrekla: well mostly not by time but by devices modified i guess.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 'rawlsian veil of ignorance.' << first time i hear of this o.O
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "Eliezer Shlomo Yudkowsky (born September 11, 1979[citation needed]) is an American blogger, writer, and advocate for friendly artificial intelligence." << lol i guess tardpedia actually informs, for once.
mats_cd03: also "The Koran for Dummies". top keks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, consider leaving a shlomo comment on the article itself, for readers of teh future.
mircea_popescu: wait, you are crediting a 35 yo blogger from san francisco with having single handedly created the pop-bayesian idiocy now making up half of applied math out there ?!
mircea_popescu: the onlyproblem with this theory being that spamfilters predate his adolescence.
mircea_popescu: well ok but how do i evaluate how many folks and how much dancing.
mircea_popescu: the ever-loving intel dept i could not survive without actually just slipped me a note,
mircea_popescu: "you are greatly overstating the importance of the site, it's not reddit sized. it's not even digg.com sized, as of today. it's actually smaller than your blog, 5-10k a month sort of affair."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7782 @ 0.00074942 = 5.832 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess now i'm stuck doing a rawls is a clueless ignoramus masquerading as a philosopher (if the "american" part didn't give it away by itself), inept enough to present mere circular reasoning as "moral thought"
mircea_popescu: well the advantage to us being two different people is that our data doesn't match.
mircea_popescu: stop selling reddit short, it's a great empire of intellectual pinnacling.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the history of that thing went. it was about as retarded as lesswrong, originally, a sort of obscure livejournal clone populated by worthless shut-ins (which doesn't mean alkl shut-ins are worthless).
mircea_popescu: then some guy decided to fill it up with child porn, and so it (obviously) took off
mircea_popescu: but ever since, and apparently to its last day, it had an inferiority complex to 4chan
mircea_popescu: so to this day it's still trying to sort-of pretend it's that, /b/ in its glory days, 2005ish
mircea_popescu: is the name in recognition of your many queefs or what.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Oh response<< any idea what that's supposed to mean ?
mats_cd03: ive got nothing against jihadis personally
mircea_popescu: i do. what the fuck do they think they are, reddit on steroids ?
mats_cd03: legitimate grievances or not, i don't see a problem with taking up arms in support of wutever they believe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: what's a 'bme' anyway? << body modification ezine, was a focus for a bunch of weird individuals + some really banging adolescewnt females
mats_cd03: if you're clever enough to win, then you live long enough to see the mess you've created
mats_cd03: if not... you live long enough to see your buddies dragged behind a cart.
mircea_popescu: (women have a very deeply entrenched masochism in them, as you'd expect of machines made to actually carry to term and give birth. the more heavily sexed ones often have trouble managing it until their late 30s)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, i believe their sustenance is genuine.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform always wondered, in that spirit, if there exist folks with 'useful' tattoos, e.g., one that turns you into a 'human slide rule' <<< yes. in russian prisons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jihad long predates the invention of america, let alone the creation of the usg.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ".@rabite I think I liked you better as a Christian, could you go back to the Jesus stuff please" lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that's about as relevant to the people in the field as the "bitcoin (tm)" "vessenes scam foundation" are relevant to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: distinction IS unimportant, inasmuch as you're not interested in either flies or rotten meat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people << the reason may escape you but is obvious.
mircea_popescu: take global warming. it is EXACTLY that, they created an imaginary reality to replace earth's history, and that imaginary reality now serves... what does it serve ?
mircea_popescu: preexisting policy goals ? DING DING DING the man's a winner! check out the ~coinicidence~ there!
mircea_popescu: "Do you want riots in the streets? How much does it cost to prevent LA (or the city of your choice) from catching fire? Answer: $600/month/person, plus Medicaid. Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it's a disease, it's nobody's fault. Yay empiricism.
mircea_popescu: Those who are arguing about the cost of healthcare or think that poor people are lying to get benefits are completely and utterly missing the point of the system. It wants this in the hands of doctors, because it would be toxic to everyone else. Can you imagine your Senator deciding who gets benefits and who doesn't?"
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 00:09:10; mircea_popescu: “We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. ” ~Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89
mircea_popescu: so add these two together, what do you get ? obviously the actual goals of the entire "global warming" stuff, especioally if scrubbed of all the crud, would generally be beneficial and are in any case unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: but that's not how it works, because to keep up the semblance of "popular democracy" one is stuck "persuading" the cattle. so all sorts of "justifications" have to be made up.
mircea_popescu: just like a professor won't have the mp superbity to go into the review meeting hands in pockets and deliver a stern "fuck you, i'm doing you a favor being here, now you prove yourselves to me and then go home."
mircea_popescu: instead, he will present a list of "proofs". of his value, importance and utility. which he knows are bunk. but what's he to do ?
mircea_popescu: governing a herd of idiots who nevertheless think themselves the crown of creation is no easy feat. it is also no feat any thinking man should ever accomplish, for any accomplishment at all, and most mere attempts, are quite morally wrong, and taint something fierce.
mircea_popescu: yet, everyone loves this "i had no choice" and "what would you have me do ? LEAVE ?" thing.
mircea_popescu: right ? i predict "the dictates of reality" as a concept to make its appearance at the war on terror warcrimes tribunal.
mircea_popescu: "i was following orders111" "who the fuck from ?" "reality!"
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the country where no man may say "do it this way ~becayse i say so~" all sorts of pathologies are bound to develop. because in point of fact a country has some scope for that sort of thing, whether you want to or not. and like in any living organism, once a metabolic pathway is blocked, homeostasis becomes extremely difficult if at all possible. and will take all sorts of crazy to pull off.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the us has to get off consumerism. this is not an if.
mircea_popescu: there are many decades, century+ worth of bad decisions baked in that will have to be unwound.
mircea_popescu: it worked before people travelled, but your average usian thatever visited europe now knows that the sprawl is fucking insane AND not needed.
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, the hunchback is trying to straighten "through science".
mircea_popescu: can you blame him ? perhaps. can you mock him ? definitely. will he stop tho ?
mircea_popescu: right. so yeah, the worst thing about a friend getting cancer is that point where they lose it
mircea_popescu: who was it, baez had a song about how [the wife] has opened the last can of baked beans
thestringpuller: mats_cd03: sounds similar to the line from The Dark Knight. "Live long enough to become the villian"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: that is, 'slavery is bad mmkay because what if you were a slave' << lol i remember an encounter with this in kindergarten. substitute whoever attacked some longstanding privilege of mine that i meanwhile forgot with the totally unexpected "can't do that, because what if all the other kids want it too ?"
mircea_popescu: it took me a coupla passes until it sunk in that the woman actually is seriously presenting this as some sort of an argument,
mircea_popescu: out of which she even has like, expectations, not to mention thinks it victorious in principle and afore the fact, like calling the name of god or something.
mircea_popescu: i still can't shake the same bemused, "wait, did the monkey srsly just try to shoot me with a stick" disbelief whenever confronted with it, to this day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and the rawlsian lottery is presumed to include only them <<< ahhh, excellent point re the "inner light" stuff. it wasn't directly apparent,
mircea_popescu: but in fact, considering pedigrees, that's exactly what the antecessor of this was huh.
mircea_popescu: puritards, i swear... they're worse than the catholics.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Well this whole Jesus thing has kind of been a huge bummer for Western civilization ever since the Romans started taking it seriously <<< it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs.
cazalla: thestringpuller, they? one or two people!
cazalla: well, you know, some people's footnotes are longer than the article itself
punkman: what woman has longer torso than legs anyway
mircea_popescu: by the way, any transhumanists of the future reading this, secretly in their secret coven while being grieviously oppressed by an unrelentingly ignorant society :
mircea_popescu: i propose euman as the term. it's different from human in that it's BETTER!
mircea_popescu: whereas to the counterparty, those oppressing them : you could probably switch to "man and homan".
cazalla: fucking lol, that shapiro chick favourited the qntra article on her hardware wallet
mircea_popescu: cazalla she might know more than you about how to deal with such things
mircea_popescu: "Today EFF is pleased to announce Let’s Encrypt, a new certificate authority (CA) initiative that we have put together with Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai, IdenTrust, and researchers at the University of Michigan that aims to clear the remaining roadblocks to transition the Web from HTTP to HTTPS."
cazalla: or she didn't actually read the article
mircea_popescu: "The need to obtain, install, and manage certificates from that bureaucracy is the largest reason that sites keep using HTTP instead of HTTPS. " <<< most common != largest.
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 15:42:20; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: RIP EFF.
mircea_popescu: the common cold is the most common disease. it is not the "largest" nor the most important disease.
mircea_popescu: under the umbrella of the Ghee Kung Tong, identified by the feds as a de facto Chinese mafia organization. Chow begs to differ: “My organization is not what they call a secret society,” he says. “People misunderstand—it’s not a secret. It’s a private self-help group, helping people, our people. It’s about loyalty, trust, honor. As the chairman, it’s my job to help people.”
cazalla: there is nothing worse than having a beautiful, sunny morning tainted by a complaining woman!
cazalla: A guy told me one time.. do not let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.. why didn't i listen lol
nubbins`: cazalla sounds like the honeymoon's over
cazalla: nubbins`, could be worse, for example, forced to get up at predetermined time 5 days a week only to come home to same woman
nubbins`: the first half of that sounds like an unfettered nightmare
nubbins`: i guess the coming home part depends on how good you are at making important life decisions ;p
cazalla: asciilifeform, my comment assumes reader has knowledge of twitter :P
cazalla: asciilifeform, it's their version of Facebook's Like
undata: cazalla: it's awesome; they acknowledge they rely on you by complaining and deny it in the same breath
undata: responding to earlier laments
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cazalla: undata, they? i only have one, not as lucky as some
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mats_cd03: such pregnant pauses, asciilifeform
mats_cd03: you have potential for the stage my man