BingoBoingo: It was still organized crime, but organized crime is always going to exist everywhere.
BingoBoingo: The surge in violence seems to have a more nationalist feel.
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cazalla: what's available to smash and grab from a car these days?
phf: in any case i'd be curious to watch breakdown patterns in philly. you have a lot of agents here, that are not just realtors. there's upenn, there's ethnic neighbourhoods, there's also a lot of "blacklivesmatter" hipster feminist areas that are deep in the ghetto territory.
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BingoBoingo: <cazalla> what's available to smash and grab from a car these days? << In Missouri? Firearms
cazalla: BingoBoingo, well that is far better than the casette player i had in mind
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mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> "Mayor Francis Slay << nice name at least.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's a white guy. Been in since the last Black guy was voted out.
BingoBoingo: The last black mayor's father is on the board of aldermen though.
mircea_popescu: <phf> (i'm saying lafond because that's where i assume most people here are getting their racial relationship information from) << eh no they aren't, cmon.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> It was still organized crime, but organized crime is always going to exist everywhere. << organised crime is one step down from government and certainly better than disorganised crime in all situations except those of extreme abundance
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mircea_popescu: "When blockchain technology will become more adopted by businesses, is an ether price of 100$ realistic ? (self.ethtrader)"
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phf: this sake i've been drinking put me in a foul mood, and orcs at the door rhetoric is depressing
phf: i know it's not just la fond, but he's particularly adept at this subject
☟︎ phf: actually reminds me of this guy, fred reed, from earlier internet,
http://www.fredoneverything.net. he used to be a dc journalist, so he has a lot of candid comments about dc northeast and generally race in america
cazalla: phf, sounds like you just need to drink a lil' more
phf: aye, perhaps i'll switch to raki
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trinque: the nerve of trying to make the argument that what we're seeing in the world today is *russian* military adventurism
☟︎ trinque: what I see is numerous smoldering fires all along their south
trinque: much closer than say Central America is to the USA
trinque: Iraq and Syria are what, 200-300mi from Russia, maybe 4-5 in Syria's case
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trinque: light Iran on fire and it's even closer
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cazalla: copypaste, super cool press conference bro :P
cazalla: maybe get a blue yeti or similar to avoid handing microphone around though (missed what you said at the start)
copypaste: i intend for it to be used for presentations and not logging keys, but i suppose it's just as good for either purpose...
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punkman: mircea_popescu: Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. << and they didn't even have the anton story?
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punkman: "Last February, Greek authorities took the extraordinary step of issuing an international arrest warrant for a CIA official the Greeks believe was a key figure in the operation while based in Athens. Unnoticed by the U.S. press, the warrant was a nearly unprecedented action by an allied country. The intelligence official, identified as William George Basil, was accused of espionage and eavesdropping."
punkman: "“The Greeks identified terrorist nets, so NSA put these devices in there and they told the Greeks, OK, when it’s done we’ll turn it off,” said the source. “They put them in the Athens communications system, with the knowledge and approval of the Greek government. This was to help with security during the Olympics.”"
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BingoBoingo: punkman: Seems like motive enough for the NSA to do the systemd turd
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287253 << i dunno that it is. honestly, "Race relations" in the sense of, here's a 10-15% ish scapegoat minority is the lulz of all time. same role the gypsies play in romania, same exact role of the small rus / white rus whatever in russian rhetoric, what the fuck are the ukrainians gonna do, bleed on everyone ?
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 01:13:18; phf: i know it's not just la fond, but he's particularly adept at this subject
mircea_popescu: there's 2k years' worth of actual social science being amused at lafond's "hi world i'm an ex boxer lemme tell you how the world looks through my glass" schtick.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile if you look at the actual demographics involved the loss of identity, cultural, biological, you name it has been MORE marked for the minority and is certainly going faster.
mircea_popescu: fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it.
mircea_popescu: punkman that's nothing. i suspect the pedigree of "women with a sexual market value" will in the future require full coverage much like the sale of cattle and other biomaterial includes full documentation by default today.
mircea_popescu: "where's your profile pic" of the 90s gave way to the "where's your instagram account" of the 2000s which gave way to "you make and send nude selfies on demand as a prequal" of today which will give way to something, dat much is fo sho.
mircea_popescu: so if your daughter's born recently, she has 50-50 odds of living her entire life publicly nude.
mircea_popescu: imagine telling her about "the world before cellphones" as her mom lived it.
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mircea_popescu: "Atypical Neurotic. An Illinois-born refugee from academia who in late middle-age finds himself a civil servant in Norway. An unashamed city-dweller, he walks 30 minutes every day to a job where he is not paid to be an economist (lawyer or accountant), only to sound like one."
mircea_popescu: is this what two blowhards turned into ? or unrelated ?
punkman: no idea, just stumbled on that post
mircea_popescu: "The most important consequence of the Papal Revolution was that it introduced into Western history the experience of revolution itself."
mircea_popescu: i mean for the holy name of Trompi, they like even know shit and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: (yes, lenin is a bit player in a story that marx didn't start, and the french didn't start. the stone fell i nthe lake long long ago.)
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punkman: is trompi the romanian dumbo?
mircea_popescu: nah. trompi is a putative divinity introduced by a comic strip. he's more mysterious than the fsm in that outside of me and those guys nobody even references it.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it. << He's got bits of that scattered around though he does focus on the "liberated" younger generations
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo his approach is fundamentally broken, fwiw. "oh, be in shape and you'll..." you'll what ? you'll die, just like everyone else. what's it gonna do, exactly ? he keeps spinning these... what they are is basically "believable superman strips". self-contained submarine-jetfighter except you know, not actually THAT capable, so the weakness of the "self-contained" fantasy is a little harder to put under fire.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with it, obviously. and the freshness of perspective is welcome, certainly. and i enjoy reading them, generally.
mircea_popescu: but i dunno that anyone actually sees them the way sake makes phf fear anyone sees them.
mircea_popescu: heck, all the fucktarded broken software stack would really not be a point of concern if all it took was you know, hitting the gym three times a week and not being over 60.
mircea_popescu: da fuck would i need bitcoin for, in a world where the win criteria is "work out a little".
BingoBoingo: It's like the people who stockpile all the stuff for collapse even if it really means they get robbed first
mircea_popescu: heck, i could do without needing a spylist longer than most serial monogamists' ex-fucks list just to keep things slightly above water.
BingoBoingo: People are going to do what they are going to do. Some are going to run stock exchanges while others ride the bus to work the grocery store.
mircea_popescu: and honestly, if i'm going to ride the bus once, i'd much rather ride it with lafond than plenty of other people.
BingoBoingo: This civilization has got to have some sort of sorting. Just prolly doesn't scale past 1-10 million people really.
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mircea_popescu: his method works for any arbitrary number, providerd of course they never exist in groups larger than a few hundred and those groups are strictly separated.
mircea_popescu: which is amusingly biographical : fighter circuit consists of groups of a few hundred people (the boxer, his team, people at his club, his social acquaintances etc) that come together under very strictly controlled setting (matches) and otherwise are very strictly separated.
mircea_popescu: this way of life can obviously only exist for as long as you know... it's not universal.
mircea_popescu: but the fantasy is alive and well, hence "hunger games" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: i expect ~half the various anarcho-this and that, so-and-so-punks etc are pretty much equal to that when it comes to social organizing. "let's all live as dunbar number communes in the desert, inaccessible from one another like."
mircea_popescu: hence the interest of things that are predicated on breaking that imagined wall (say - madmax ?)
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i know ya got a big stockpile of liquor
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mircea_popescu: "Somos una empresa líder en la venta de cuatriciclos deportivos y Agrarios Blackstone. Contamos con una alta cobertura de repuestos y servicios de post- venta."
mircea_popescu: "Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books."
assbot: The Top of the Pyramid: The Rothschilds, the Vatican and the British Crown Rule World | Humans Are Free ... (
http://bit.ly/1LYXzCx )
mircea_popescu: "Barack Obama is the current CEO of the USA Corporation and
mircea_popescu: the gold-fringed flags in the background stand for "ruled from abroad.""
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mircea_popescu: looking through that site - seems the average lifetime of a "serious" blog is in the hundreds. i would guess from my own experience less than 1% of a personal attempt survives the 1k articles mark.
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mircea_popescu: The following, which gives the flavor, is from Andrea Dworkin, who I gather is a sort of museum-piece siege howitzer for feminism. It's pretty much how they all talk. Listen:
mircea_popescu: "Men use the night to erase us...The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality, and so the night is the sacred time of male sexual celebration, because it is dark and in the dark it is easier not to see: not to see who she is. Male sexuality, drunk on its intrinsic contempt for all life, but especially for women's lives, can run wild, hunt down random victi
mircea_popescu: ms, use the dark for cover, find in the dark solace, sanctuary, cover."
mircea_popescu: incidentally - dvorkin happens to be pretty much correct. male sexuality IS fundamentally contempt for all life. not for life in particular, but for life in the universal, for the life of maggots and cockroaches and everything else teemingly and indistinctly alive. and as such it is both fundamentally important and functionally required,
mircea_popescu: it keeps women from devolving into the wasp nest dvorkin'd live in, of her own devices.
mircea_popescu: that's the gender role since the begining : woman spits out maggots from her maggot hole and man figures out which she may get to keep.
mircea_popescu: "Why is schooling so poor for black children? To begin with, because blacks have little enthusiasm for academics. Blacks have demonstrated for an end to discrimination, more welfare, less brutality by police, greater rights, more pay, and greater respect. They do not march for more homework, harder courses, thicker texts with larger words and smaller pictures."
HeySteve: ah Fred on everything, he's a very enjoyable read
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HeySteve: haven't seen his new stuff on WordPress, think my morning plans just changed
mircea_popescu: it is an astonishingly beautiful point. it generally takes a ~bright~ and very talented slavegirl 18 months or more before her desires go from more chocolate and less beatings to being given harder tasks. and she finds herself in an incredibly powerful, carefully engineered self-improvement-atron.
mircea_popescu: so why are blacks marching for "respect" which can not be given, instead of marching for "more homework" which would instantly, and absolutedly, deliver that respect ? EARNED respect ?
mircea_popescu: "we're poor, hungry and tired" "so what do you want ?" "more work."
HeySteve: perhaps the concept of earned has been destroyed by handouts
HeySteve: "what you subsidise you get more of, what you tax you get less of"
HeySteve: state has been subsidising failure for decades
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HeySteve: a good example is welfare for single mothers, previously spawning bastards was socially-discouraged for good reason
HeySteve: then the state got involved and illegitimacy rates (which are strongly correlated with criminality) skyrocketed
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HeySteve: it's related to what you said about gender roles, with no father to do quality control you get bad outcomes
mircea_popescu: those women on welfare, with a dozen kids, ARE doing their job, right ? and splendidly at that, natality ain't easy.
mircea_popescu: to put that objection in more practically comprehensible terms : if you live in a village of 100, the prettiest girl you ever see in your life will be ugly.
HeySteve: well, dominant ideology says there fungible
mircea_popescu: if you live in a country of 1mn, you'll see some passible ass.
mircea_popescu: in a world of a billion, you will never ever reach the end of breathtaking.
HeySteve: well, debt-based system requires endless growth, of population and everything else
HeySteve: so if middle-class aren't reproducing like they used to, subsidise reproduction of lower class
HeySteve: but this debases the "population supply" eventually
HeySteve: I guess you can bring in waves of immigrants too and hope they take out a load of home and car loans
mircea_popescu: reproduction and class are strictly unrelated considerations. in fact, they do not even share any common space at all - there isn't a way to define "class" so that reproduction can be made meaningful or vice-versa.
HeySteve: but the ultimate result is Idiocracy world
mircea_popescu: specifically : do you know how many ottoman sultans had wives ?
HeySteve: no idea, weren't they more about harems?
mircea_popescu: exactly. with the exception of roxy the kidnapped ukrainian, two centuries of high class progeny was carried on the bosoms and thigs of SLAVES.
mircea_popescu: lowest caste women could perfectly finely spawn highest caste men. there's absolutely no relation between class and reproduction.
HeySteve: hmm roxanna, I've heard that story somewhere. I think in an old Sean Connery movie...
mircea_popescu: and she BECAME a free woman. in her lifetime. which is barely lowest -1.
mircea_popescu: roughly equivalent to "naturalized illegal alien" or somesuch today.
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, ok well what I mean is that birth rates are low or negative in developed countries
mircea_popescu: well then i dunno what you mean. the us has had low birth rate since before it was "developed", ie a century ago. england has had low birth rate throughout it's four centuries of being developed. china had lower birth rate in its undeveloped 80s than it does today.
HeySteve: I think they only hit demographic problems around 2030 or so whereas EU, USA and Japan are already there
HeySteve: well low birth rate is ok imo, it's when it falls below replacement level that ponzis like social security start going bust
mircea_popescu: some races compete on spawn. western european folk (not to be confused with white folk, or for that matter with caucasians) do not.
HeySteve: true, they're more about education
mircea_popescu: there's even a line delineating the "poorly productive females" half of europe, and it was drawn in the 1800s
mircea_popescu: it's not clear that "they're more about education" , or that their cunts just don't work worth a crap.
mircea_popescu: that given, gotta figure something out to survive, and hey, education may be it.
HeySteve: well, there are physiological factors relating to ease of childbirth
HeySteve: and also developmental differences in the offspring
mircea_popescu: yeah. but even the western yurpeans favour narrow waists and wide butts.
HeySteve: also cultural differences in the emphasis placed on parenting and education
mircea_popescu: those differences drastically favour the jews, india and china. perhaps in that order.
HeySteve: of course, state has gotten into the parenting and schooling game in a big way, so things are distorted there
HeySteve: well, it's hard to say how the world will go and which reproductive strategies will be selected for
mircea_popescu: which is perhaps why it's a big idea to stop pestering people.
mircea_popescu: woman has 12 kids and feeds them off 2k income ? good for her.
HeySteve: in a nasty war situation for eg. all that education and child-rearing effort is likely to come to nothing on the battlefield
mircea_popescu: who knows. the venetians spent all their time training the girls to be whores, lost to charles on the field then won in the bedroom.
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assbot: Vitalik Buttering, author of Ethereum, cannot even figure out how to give out beta test rewards with his own smart contracts, so opts for manual copypasting of Reddit comments with random hex digits in them instead. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1h6pg3Y )
HeySteve: I can't believe people put 37k BTC in that
mircea_popescu: this would be mostly because "people" didn't put 37k in that.
HeySteve: I was looking for a way to do multi-sig with coins pegged to fiat or PM, so investigated Ethereum
HeySteve: seemed confusing and unfocused, got the impression they have no businesspeople involved
mircea_popescu: the whole "ethereum" story is, mr alienface and some junior profs at umaryland scammed that university for a little space and morning coffees ; he lied about the few hundred BTC available as being tens of thousands, and did some fraudulent moves to "prove" this ; he lied about "expenses" to explain why the capital he claimed to have doesn't in fact exist (but hey, he "spent it" for ethereum, which is good and builds ma
mircea_popescu: rket value, right ? notwithstanding that mp has nixed ripple back when it was still called colored coins, and notwithstanding that this ripple reimplementation is even failful-er than the previous one).
mircea_popescu: altogether a marginally better showing than garza's "buyout at $20" plan.
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mircea_popescu: they've mostly (80% or so) burned through the ~10k actual dollars they had available for this highschool play, which is about what you'd exp[ect for six months' entertainment
HeySteve: hmm. well it's looking like you called another one. what do you think about BitShares? it looks like it can do what I want but seems a little too good to be true
mircea_popescu: just another offshot branch off the same nonsense tree.
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assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 02:15:33; trinque: the nerve of trying to make the argument that what we're seeing in the world today is *russian* military adventurism
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 04:25:15; punkman: mircea_popescu: Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. << and they didn't even have the anton story?
mircea_popescu: "The intelligence official, identified as William George Basil, was accused of espionage and eavesdropping. But by then he had already left the country, and the U.S. government, as it has done for the past 10 years, continues to stonewall Greek authorities on the agency’s involvement."
mircea_popescu: hey, romania still has an unsatisfied arrest warrant for some us derp that got drunk and ran over some relatively popular singer guy.
mircea_popescu: i would suspect there's more random common law criminals being shielded by the usg from various jurisdictions than there are successful prosecutions in any given year.
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mircea_popescu: a question for the mathematically inclined practical minds in the audience :
mircea_popescu: let there be a monotonous measurable system S. let Mi be measurements made at moments-in-time Ti. let average-per-unit-time delta values be reported for each Ti as Ai = (Mi - Mi-1) / (Ti - Ti-1). let an arbitrary "reporting unit" R be defined so that a finite count of Ti fit in each such unit Rj. Let Ais be plainly averaged so that A' = (Ak +...+ Am) / (m-k) where k, m are the first and last i's for Tis fitting in Rj.
mircea_popescu: what would you say the "intuitive meaning" of A'j is ?
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mircea_popescu: check it out, ethereum needed moneyz so it sold its s.mpoe participation.
mircea_popescu: "Global terrorism is extreme both in its lack of realistic goals and in its cynical exploitation of the vulnerability of complex systems."
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha habermas is not quite as smart as previously believed.
mircea_popescu: hint : a world without complex systems IS a realistic goal. in point of fact, it is the baseline in realism.
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funkenstein_: "Just like every moral-panic flavoured intellectual fashion of a mostly idle and broadly useless population, this nonsense is not here to stay." <-- nice :)
funkenstein_: yeah? one way to describe time averaged is smoothed, so as to not show the variations that happen over short times
funkenstein_: kinda like a bandpass filter of sorts to get rid of high frequency stuff
mircea_popescu: in fact the smoothness comparison is a decent indication of the entropy involved.
funkenstein_: it is said that in chaotic systems power goes from low frequencies to high frequencies
thestringpuller: ascii_field: Been looking for your "rules" on trustworthy computing on your blog...
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mircea_popescu: yeah i guess qntra ddoser got his monthly allowance or w/e that is.
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mircea_popescu: if you're curious as to where the endless scams draw their vigour from... you need look no further than government.
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assbot: Logged on 28-09-2015 08:50:25; mircea_popescu: (and random discussion YET AGAIN undercovers the well lied about ustardian poverty. hey random schmuck, did you know your DAD could afford 5x the water that may be wasted on your stupid head ? forged granpa.)
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> problem is the stockpile keeps getting drunk. << I believe the concept is "inventory buffer"
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ascii_field: 'Generally speaking, any authentic-looking towelhead who is able to intelligibly pronounce the word "democracy" has a chance to receive financing and weapons. But nobody has any control over where he will then go with these weapons. By the way, Soviet intelligence services of the Brezhnev era had the same problem, latching onto any tribal chieftain who knew how to pronounce words like "Marx" and "Lenin."'
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ascii_field: 'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war. And now it is very difficult to appraise the real capabilities of the huge bulk of the US Army or Marine Corps, should they ever encounter an enemy that is approximately equal to them in technical capabilities.'
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Lol, counseling upon the student's return
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mircea_popescu: soviets also stole from "the property of the whole people"
ascii_field: a device which screwed in place of a light bulb, circa 1920s
ascii_field: to ~this day~ we call it a жулик (fraudster)
ascii_field: more commonly, a splitter of one mains socket into 3+
ascii_field: is 'cheater' - even in english-speaking lands. from this i surmise that they, too, once had 'headcount' fees on mains socket
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc you could get hard time for that. << Only if you are a licensed contractor.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'Не знаю в точности, как городские постройки подключались к электростанции, но по сохранившемуся случайно «Абонементу на право пользования электрической энергией», можно увидеть, что наш дом был подключён к электросетям с 2
ascii_field: 'i do not know for sure how the city buildings connected to the power plant, but the accidentally preserved 'testament to the right to utilize the mains grid energy', you can see that our home was connected to the mains on 20 january 1950, and the permit was written ~only~ for light bulbs, starting with 50 watt, then progressing to 145...
ascii_field: '... no other electrical appliances were permitted, and inspectors made their rounds to see; but people went to great lengths to deceive...'
mircea_popescu: 'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war.' << this was never the fucking case wtf narrative bs is this.
mircea_popescu: and the reaso nit is "very difficulty" to appraise the "capabilites" of us army/navy/etc is because they are nil. anmd the reason they are nil is exactly the same reason the intellectual abilities of college grads are nil.
mircea_popescu: the day they decided to fret over "transgenderism" instead of beating kids for sport is the day performance went away
mircea_popescu: no it wasn't. dude, srsly... they had a fucking draft for vietnam.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it went away in vietnam and there were only men fighting
mircea_popescu: at no point was the pentagon idea that war is won by anything other than fucking guts.
ascii_field: vietnam is where they 'we shall win by dropping 4 million tonnes of trotyl'
mircea_popescu: no it wasn't, and no it didn't nor was it even treied or contempalted in ww2.
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ascii_field: iirc americans tried to massage with aerial bombardment prior
ascii_field: and mircea_popescu is right, i was thinking in reality of the Christmas Offensive
mircea_popescu: the us army and south vietnamese were at first inept but then regrouped and turned it into a disaster for the northeners
ascii_field: america called it 'operation linebacker 2.'
mircea_popescu: anyway, attempts to win wars by artillery have been ongoing ever since someone observed cca 1600 that cannon is the major batterfield KILLER.
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike observing that the penis is the major bedroom inseminator.
mircea_popescu: sure it is, doesn't mean perambulating cocks will score that many dates.
phf: "The end result is that in El Cap, root is no longer an account with effectively unlimited access to either the file system or to memory and running processes. SIP places kernel-level checks on root’s privilege that can only be bypassed by the kernel itself."
phf: "SIP consists of four major features:
phf: Protected locations cannot be written to by root.
phf: Protected system processes cannot be attached to with a debugger and cannot be subject to code injection.
phf: All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone).
phf: SIP cannot be disabled from within the operating system, only from the OS X Recovery partition."
phf: "The inclusion of OS X default applications in the list [some list of SIP locations --phf] means that they inherit the same file system protections as any other SIP location—if you want to delete Mail.app because you only use your third-party mail application, you’re out of luck."
phf: "Attempting to inject libraries into system binaries will result in an error. Even trying to poke into a protected process with DTRACE will fail—probes that try to target protected processes will fail to match, and no interaction with the kernel will be visible, and protected memory space will be simply inaccessible. Not even LLDB will be useful. You won’t be able to invoke it on system processes, regardless of root privilege."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: microshit had this for years. kernel is filled with boobytraps that cross-checksum each other, like any good malware
ascii_field: any attempt to patch kernel that is detected (and the traps move around) hangs the box
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ascii_field: also betcha this will drive sales of hardware debuggerz through the roof.
phf: this is dr. strangelove level of problem solving right there
ascii_field: as in 'no upgrade, proggies bought in the store won't run, latest Pnohe won't sync, etc'
ascii_field: and/or networked boxes 'upgrade' themselves at night.
mircea_popescu: i thought the trend was towards rooted iphones not the other way around
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: these are a very funny joke on their own. WITHOUT EXCEPTION all 'rooters' are closed-source gigantic blobs that do fuck-knows-what to the pnohe
ascii_field: this is justified by the author as 'we don't want crapple to fix it too quickly'
ascii_field: and true enough, when it is finally reversed, they close the hole.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking processor on a board with a disk and a ram stick innit ?
ascii_field: the exploit which allowed the pnohe to be 'jailbroken'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it has rsa sig checker in mask rom which runs on reset
ascii_field: this makes it more like 'nintendo' than computer.
ascii_field: why did you think apple makes own silicon !
ascii_field: it is quite analogous to a nintendo or playstation etc.
mircea_popescu: so basically apple is the sony corp of america sorta thing mkay.
ascii_field: (he was consciously and unabashedly enamored of sony)
ascii_field: 'OS X users who depend upon unsigned KEXTs for extra functionality—be it third-party hardware with unsigned drivers or software like OSXFuse that depends upon unsigned kernel extensions—will have precisely two alternatives: stop using the applications or hardware until the developers provide signed KEXTs, or disable SIP altogether.' << hello winblows 7 !
ascii_field: clearly this is what apple users pined for
ascii_field: you don't need that mass-spectrometer! it didn't come with signed driver!
ascii_field: apparently you can, similar to microshit's 'test mode'
mircea_popescu: i find it comedic that for all the "well documented" flaws of rsa, all these "take over the world" computing schemes fail to use ECC.
mircea_popescu: somehow this is supposed to not be gallingly obvious or what ?
ascii_field: the most pedestrian hypothesis here is that rsa is considerably easier to implement.
mircea_popescu: "WoW !!! Mircea Popescu is back. Not only on Trilema, but also on Twitter"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in their imaginary universe, you took the money and ran in 2011, then came back N more times to somehow also take the money and run each.'
phf: around 2g/3g you still had "linux on iphone" projects and such. i think there was one project to recreate part of iphone stuck by combining opensource apple code and writing what's missing. this is of course long history.
mircea_popescu: right, it was the buterins of the world that are permanent.
ascii_field: 'the car bomb exploded. the mechanic cursed and pulled on another wire. the car bomb exploded again, with greater violence. windows rattled, dogs barked. 'you definitely have a car bomb, sir, i can tell you that now!' he muttered.'
☟︎ phf: yes, but this is somehow a freudian slip
phf: there was a period when apple was not this outright hostile to hackers. around 10.4-10.5 you could still rebuild darwin (i did it for a bit to work around the retarded execl argument list length limitations) or bsd user space from apple hosted source. even cocoa userspace had all kinds of hooks that you could use to customize the os, like inputmanager bundles
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ascii_field: phf: iirc they closed the kernel source a while ago.
phf: ascii_field: around the same time that they started focusing on iphone. in fact it looked like they were pulling the libraries one by one as custom iphone optimization were making their way in
ascii_field: and rolled out shortly when corpse was cold.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny how things are set up. the faitful always mistake the butresses of their chosen as mere weakness of the flesh that they, true templars, will find the courage and rectitude to straighten out
mircea_popescu: then the whole echafaudage collapses ion a cloud of wtf and wchp
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gribble: wiki.bitcoin-assets.com is up
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228
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jurov: BingoBoingo: nasdaq accepts eur deposits?
jurov: nasdaq accepts btc deposits?
BingoBoingo: Some Nasdaq venture apparently is creating BTC certificates denominated in EUR, all on paper
BingoBoingo: Not all of Nasdaq, just some venture listed there
jurov: this is not at all comparable to x.eur
jurov: it's for people who want to invest in btc without actually buying any
jurov: x.eur is for people who start with btc
☟︎ ascii_field: jurov: but somebody gotta serve the folks who want to work with amero^H^H^H^Husg^H^H^Husc
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2013 17:33:07; asciilifeform: replace 'bitdollar' with 'amero', for extra conspiratorial spice.
BingoBoingo: jurov: Comparable in the sense sausage and turd may be compared as cylinders
jurov waits till alf encounters the khazar mafia link
ascii_field: (approx. 'yid-masons.' the equivalent of 'illuminati' in ru blog varietyspeak)
jurov: here жидобольшевик is more often used in such context
ascii_field: btw the masons - at least the ones that can be met with in usa - are perhaps the ultimate cargo cult.
ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
☟︎ trinque: I have a grandfather's freemason pin on a jacket; he was about that age when he passed away
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s << They still recruit.
jurov: cargocult? what did they imitate?
ascii_field: i knew a fella who signed up. he brewed beer.
phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
☟︎ phf throws hat and the ground and dances mazurka
trinque: I recall my grandfather saying they weren't much more than a social club at the time I was asking
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jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
☟︎☟︎ jurov: certainly very attractive to introverts
ascii_field: if you ask'em they might even say they invented wheel, fire, structured programming, etc
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 21:34:31; phf: "You? Impossible! A mason?" "A mason," I replied. "A sign," he said, "a sign." "It is this," I answered, producing from beneath the folds of my roquelaire a trowel.
phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
☟︎ ascii_field: and 'riding the goat' is what, not absurd ?
phf: ahaha, i've not seen this
ascii_field: 'We leave the big piano shut and do not strike a note; / the doctor's been here seven times since father rode the goat.'
ascii_field: '...He mutters passwords 'neath his breath, And other things he'll quote ---- / They surely had an evening's work when father rode the goat.'
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ascii_field: '...he went inside his brother’s apartment and saw Costas hanging from a rope tied to pipes above the lintel of his bathroom door, an old wooden chair nearby. He and his mother cut the rope and laid Costas down on the bed. The day before his death, Costas’ boss at Vodafone had ordered that a newly discovered code — a powerful and sophisticated bug — be deactivated and removed from its systems. The wiretap,
ascii_field: placed by persons unknown, targeted more than 100 top officials, including then Prime Minister...'
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ascii_field: for some reason, knockout drug + rope appears to be the favourite usg method for dispatching troublesome folks
ascii_field: not hard to see the up-sides. by the time corpse turns up, it is in a condition where - even if someone were inclined to investigate (and who wants to be next corpse?) nothing could be said.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
☟︎ ascii_field: thestringpuller: do you know the political term 'unprincipled exception' ?
ascii_field: ~interrupts~ were an unprincipled exception when introduced to von n. arch.
ascii_field: the way these items are implemented is ~inherently~ retarded
thestringpuller: even on the gameboy the dma controllers are annoying as fuck
ascii_field: you will notice that when folks are persevering with something retarded, you get 'epicycles'
ascii_field: e.g., what happens when an interrupt happens during an interrupt, on your box? look it up, you may be surprised
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thestringpuller: on the gameboy if you interrupt during and interrupt you get undefined behavior
thestringpuller: the NDS makes it worse cause the two processors running on the thing run at different clock speeds
ascii_field: on modern x86 there are elaborate queueing/prioritization kludges.
thestringpuller: the sad thing about interrupts on nintendo's handhelds is its used for all the useful shit...
ascii_field: 'can't have police state without police !' (tm) (r) (al schwartz)
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: USG was prolly worried about all those sedevacantist extremists
thestringpuller: ascii_field: ugh this brings back terrible memories. So what's the deal with interrupts like airplane food?
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: more of what was seen at boston. show of force.
ascii_field: precisely like the presidential forbidden city motorcades
BingoBoingo: Sure to scare Luke-Jr and the rest of the Sedevacantists
ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
☟︎ trinque: kenny loggins blaring from every black suburban
ascii_field: it is ENTIRELY about 'we can do ANYTHING we like to you, and YOU can do NOTHING to us'
trinque: check out tubby on the bicycle, lol
ascii_field: and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.
☟︎ trinque: usians love this kind of thing
ascii_field: in the sense that the rioters were not rounded up and hanged in gibbets in public square
thestringpuller: "You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 gangs. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting affiliates, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to fight: 60,000 soldiers! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town." << I would think if gangs outnumber the police the last thing you want is an escalation of war. I.e. national guard/army
ascii_field: (technically everything that moves on two legs in usa is 'criminal')
thestringpuller: well criminals willing to kill police officers (not a lot of people are willing to go that far)
thestringpuller: The LA Riots saw the unification of the Bloods and Cryps for a short time in similar spirit described in the warriors
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases
☟︎ ascii_field: (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope)
thestringpuller: well local police are rarely proesecuted. the whole reason the LA riots occurred is cause d00ds got off on charges of Police Brutality
ascii_field: thestringpuller: none of it is about prosecuting
ascii_field: about getting usians to see local cops as 'enemy' so that nice shiny new 'friends' can be trucked in
thestringpuller: It's all fun and games until the niggers start rioting in the street.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: also notice how it's never white people and honky's who riot.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope) << The one state has Gubanatorial elections coming up, expect rhetoric to return
ascii_field: btw the 'make'em hate the local cops' thing dates to ~AT LEAST~ brown v. board of e
thestringpuller: during brown v board of education, the police and white people were indistinguishable
ascii_field: as local police tend to be, when drawn from the population they work on
thestringpuller: it was the feds iirc who protected the black children attending newly integrated schools
ascii_field: aha and every media mouthpiece made sure to snap it from 1,001 angles
thestringpuller: kinda uncanny, "hate teh local police, love the national guard"
jurov: kangaroo and panda
ascii_field: 'Lots of tech companies do that, but in Oracle's case, it is mandating that all employees pay for this furlough with four days of their paid time off/vacation time, according to several sources we spoke to.' << l0l
ascii_field: ' It's still hiring like crazy, with nearly 10,000 open jobs listed on its website, for instance, and it has ratcheted up research and development a bit, spending $8.7 billion in its last fiscal year — which ended in August — compared to $8.6 billion in fiscal 2014.' << does anyone else feel brain melting from the sheer density of flimflam packed into this paragraph ?
ascii_field: (10,000 'openings advertised on www' has something to do with actual employment? and 8.6B spent on 'research' has something to do with r&d ? not on my planet...)
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assbot: Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
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ascii_field: phf: i never saw a reason to put the iteration of blocks in the cpp. really it is a job for scripting lang from outside
ascii_field: 'eatblock' does exactly one shot of eating a block.
phf: ascii_field: that's why it's not on the ml
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:56:57; thestringpuller: can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified
ascii_field: (if it were rid of boost, openssl, bdb, and c++ entirely - it will not be 'bitcoind' in any familiar sense, but another thing entirely)
ascii_field: and Mysterious Serious People (tm) will eschew it
ascii_field: it is important to remember why we came up with the whole shebang of 'fits-in-head 1-page' patches, 'v', the lot
ascii_field: it is more or less the only path from a known-genuine, pre-valuablebtc bitcoin client to something demonstrably degavinized
ascii_field: (as i understand, anyone who so much as touched bitcoind since $10 or so is guilty until proven innocent of being a gavin)
ascii_field: at least from the pov of Mysterious Serious People
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assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 18:17:40; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228
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trinque: nmap says there's a box there
phf: ascii_field: saw it of course. i wanted to cut out the whole blkcut -> block -> eatblock roundtrip, plus i want to see how fast it can eat at saturation. which is surprisingly not fast at all
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