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punkman: all I get is the loading strobe
Naphex: try chrome
Naphex: only tested in chrome, everything else blows up atm
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cazalla: yeah, runs like shit in firefox for me
cazalla: Naphex, what's this mean? #11 Invalid streamType and/or streamServer settings for .
Naphex: cazalla: no flash, stream is rtmp. needs flash for a codec
Naphex: fed through a javascript player
Naphex: cause HLS has like a 8~20s delay
Naphex: which is annoying to take down, and dash requres vlc
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asciilifeform just used a 25-year-old floppy disk, without problems. how many dye-based 'cd-r' will last for 25 yrs ?
kakobrekla: meh i recall 'burning' a game at friends house to ~20 floppies, only to find ~5 not working when arrived home. ☟︎
kakobrekla: and also, i recently trashed about 5 floppy drives, prolly all in working condition.
asciilifeform: why trashed
kakobrekla: if i keep everything that comes through my hands i will suffocate
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: gonna end up like me, i had to buy a brand-new one last week
asciilifeform: (yes you can still get them)
kakobrekla: maybe :\
asciilifeform: because had precisely one in my stash remaining, and it (literally) smoked
kakobrekla: but i dont have a cdrom in any computer either
kakobrekla: perhaps i could do w/o usb as well
asciilifeform: to be clear, this was not going in my proper computer
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HeySteve: hello. kakobrekla, I wanted to speak to you about a trivia bot
kakobrekla: theres hundreds of trivia bots out there
HeySteve: yes, I was thinking trivia contests - maybe for BTC - would be fun ☟︎
mircea_popescu: dja got btc to burn ?
HeySteve: nope, was thinking it might bring some in
HeySteve: entrance fees to the quiz, winner gets 90% of the fees, something like that
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HeySteve: would need to pay people to research fresh questions too
mircea_popescu: copypaste btw, say when you're around.
HeySteve: would be ideal if a bot could be modded to hold and award the prize money
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163620 << the idea was to not change the words, as in "these five came out but i'ma use these other five instead because htey're eaiser to remember" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 21:59:34; kalki: thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice toss... so just
mircea_popescu: that aside, adding a curly bracket at the end or something doesn't hurt anything
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163637 << that's definitely junk ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 22:18:10; kalki: ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163646 << i kinda lolled. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 22:32:08; pete_dushenski: for ethereum posterity : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-20369
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163651 << this stupid shit makes it even better. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 22:47:02; cazalla: oh god https://twitter.com/Blockchain_Memo/status/607955408360218624
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163684 << similar experiences. floppies fucking sucked. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 01:16:01; kakobrekla: meh i recall 'burning' a game at friends house to ~20 floppies, only to find ~5 not working when arrived home.
asciilifeform: might have a survivor-bias thing going here
mircea_popescu: but also very variant. i had one that was good for hundreds of rewrites over a year
mircea_popescu: i had a batch of 100 out of which 30 died the first write
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite possible.
mircea_popescu had a complete lotus 1-2-3 and novell netware ~suites~, hundreds of 1.2mb floppies in 50 item boxes, shelves of the shit
asciilifeform: 1.2?
mircea_popescu: i think it was 3.11
scoopbot_revived: Eulora update http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/
mircea_popescu: ah, yes, 1,2mb
mircea_popescu: how much were yours ? 720 ?
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mats: it falls
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1.44 like normal people
asciilifeform: (and a few 720k)
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 144were the later, 3 inch ones
mircea_popescu: these were flexible
asciilifeform: aha then yes
mircea_popescu: barely enough for a modern jpg
asciilifeform: but probably enough for a life's work of decent programmer
asciilifeform: (the material worth remembering at any rate)
mircea_popescu: especially if written in asm
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: i should hope to produce 1.2MB of something worth keeping before i'm buried
asciilifeform: this is a pretty decent standard to live by.
asciilifeform: (for this 'litmus,' only things you personally keyed in are to be counted)
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asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/06/ru-cn-snowden-1m-docs.htm << today from the lulzfarmz
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPmk7w )
mircea_popescu: SELECT sum( length( post_content ) ) WHERE post_status = "publish"
mircea_popescu: > 105366707
mircea_popescu: what nao ?
asciilifeform: dingding winner
asciilifeform: from link, 'RUSSIA and China have cracked the top-secret cache of files stolen by the fugitive US whistleblower Edward Snowden, forcing MI6 to pull agents out of live operations in hostile countries, according to senior officials in Downing Street, the Home Office and the security services.' supposedly.
mircea_popescu: heh
asciilifeform: reads like a usg disinfo, though
mircea_popescu: only in that it;s a coupla years late.
copypaste: hi mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: a hey.
copypaste: your ad expired on the 13th so that's why it was removed
mircea_popescu: lol and when's the click-ad thing expire ?
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mircea_popescu: ooo
scoopbot_revived: Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Hits An All Time High http://qntra.net/2015/06/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-hits-an-all-time-high/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: next year huh.
cazalla: yeah nothing really, couple of sleeps
mircea_popescu: lol
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kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/610043122295418880
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mats: www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html ☟︎
mats: http://yurichev.com/blog/modulo/
assbot: Dennis Yurichev: 13-Jun-2015: Modular arithmetic + division by multiplication + reversible LCG (PRNG) + cracking LCG with Z3. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQ84vm )
asciilifeform: mats: good intro to subj. recall, perhaps in childhood, drawing 'random' pixels to screen, with atrocious prng ? could see pattern with naked eye.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163764 << lol, do we get a newspiece every time this happens? 'you're older than you've ever been and now you're even older, ..., and now you're older still!' (tm) (r) ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 05:16:21; scoopbot_revived: Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Hits An All Time High http://qntra.net/2015/06/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-hits-an-all-time-high/
kakobrekla: lol alf
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu who was that fella a while back who wanted to set up a btc-denominated market for reverse-engineered/leaked specs? (think, easily verifiable...!) and did it go anywhere ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean the trivia bot ?
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: trivia bot ?
asciilifeform: !s trivia bot
assbot: 1 results for 'trivia bot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trivia+bot
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163698 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 01:46:51; HeySteve: yes, I was thinking trivia contests - maybe for BTC - would be fun
asciilifeform: not related except in a hopelessly vague sense
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23446 @ 0.00038952 = 9.1327 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: or so you'd like to think.
asciilifeform: i'd -like- to think there is a connection. just not sure what it is, quite yet.
jurov: reverse-engineered/leaked specs ==== trivia?
mircea_popescu: the connection i see is that the proposition of this market is about as silly as the proposition of the trivia bot. there are fundamental differences between what a market is and what an assassination market is.
asciilifeform: it is trickier than first appears, because 'i want the s00p3r-s33kr1t floor plan for $fpga' is turing-complete (that is, whether the trade was an honest one is not resolvable by machine)
mircea_popescu: contrary to public idiocy, bitcoin's not particularly adequate to the latter. then again, public idiocy thought trains go too fast so it'll make passengers asphixiate out of lack of oxigen and cars explode.
asciilifeform: and so more or less what mircea_popescu said
mircea_popescu: but the market you propose, like the market which consists of assassins, like the market which consists of whores, is eminently NOT a market like the market that consists of grain, or ddram chips.
asciilifeform: and yes, it'd be a kind of 'assassination' and therefore doesn't work in a public wot, and therefore - at all...
mircea_popescu: they have a lot of common characteristics, yes, and the people "in" like to joke about it and pretend it's "the same". but... it is not.
mircea_popescu: it works privately. there ~are~ dudes who get girlies to throw their soaking wet panties at them
mircea_popescu: just, not you, and not for the being.
asciilifeform: aha, can't buy $magic.
mircea_popescu: some can.
mircea_popescu: but that some is important and it falsifies a ~fundamental~ property of markets.
asciilifeform: arguable that they didn't buy it, but only magic-amplifier
mircea_popescu: exactly.
asciilifeform: already had magic.
asciilifeform: the reason i asked is not that i was whacked with a club over the head and turned into a tard overnight, but that instead i was thinking of certain very limited special cases of jurov's suggested '0day prize box'
mircea_popescu: mayhap.
asciilifeform: where, e.g., 'get btc if you can get this chip, connected to the net, to execute undocumented instruction'
mircea_popescu: it is obviously new territory all this
mircea_popescu: well you might have noticed i AM making experiments in that province.
asciilifeform: somewhere in eulora ?
mircea_popescu: no lol, somewhere on trilema
asciilifeform must have missed this ?
mircea_popescu: eh it's all over teh place :)
asciilifeform: link?
asciilifeform: i was speaking specifically of an automated system (riding on wot, naturally, for the 'why should i potentially waste valuable $secret' bit)
mircea_popescu: ah, i wasn't. an' i'm not about to link the theory wqith the practice formally yet.
asciilifeform: i.e., if some bozo announces the box, no one plays, but if mircea_popescu does - possible
mircea_popescu: the 100% automation is too expensive
asciilifeform: really? i'da thought human power is too expensive
mircea_popescu: the 80% automation is what we do now anyway, for instance when using pgp
asciilifeform: and this could make the deal
mircea_popescu: think of computers at tractors.
mircea_popescu: which is precisely what they be.
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: 80% of a meal made by tractor - cheap
mircea_popescu: 100% of a meal made by tractor ?
asciilifeform: not proposing anything complex, really. something on the order of a bear trap
mircea_popescu: will the computer test if the thing it is testing has met the test or merely circumvented the test ?
mircea_popescu: because this computer may well save academia.
asciilifeform: defined here specifically for the 'circumvented ~= passed' scenarios
asciilifeform: limited in number, but valuable
asciilifeform: 'if you can supply a bitstring that makes mechanism x do y, get coin c'
mircea_popescu: i may be too slow for how fast this conversation has become, so gimme an example
mircea_popescu: in that example a) why would anyone accept to be paid less than the "cost to fuzz", and b) why would anyone opt to pay more thanb the "cost to fuzz" ?
asciilifeform: say i have a chip, from a certain vendor, for which no public documentation is known. it nominally allows firmware to be written, but not read back (most microcontroller vendors feature this.) i connect it to a programmable i/o board, and say 'supply the signals that cause it to spit out fw.'
asciilifeform: a monkey working at $vendor fires string, gets coin. for virtually no effort of his own.
asciilifeform: this answers 'a'
mircea_popescu: you are trying to take the personal relationship out of sex.
mircea_popescu: laudable, perhaps, but certainly unworkable.
asciilifeform: (monkey possesses the secret, will let go of it if he can do it at little personal risk and adequate reward)
mircea_popescu: see how that's a metaphor for womanhood ?
asciilifeform: no?
mircea_popescu: ...
asciilifeform: woman is terrible metaphor here - there's ancient (pre-mammalian, even) 'egg defense' firmware at work
mircea_popescu: what you said is a metaphor for womanhood, not the other way around.
asciilifeform: whereas u.s. corporate monkeys ~will~ sell their login for a chocolate bar (empirically proven)
mircea_popescu: a) monkey b) possesses the key c) will let go IF - c1. not painful c2. food and shelter.
mircea_popescu: and yes, chocolate bar. to the right bloke.
asciilifeform: very often, the secret in question is in possession of folks who presently have ~no~ way to monetize it - i am speaking specifically of amateurs who pwned, by way of idle exploration, the target - but are not in a 'k00l d00dz wot' where they can safely sell the result to anyone
mircea_popescu: how we'd evaluate the "very often" ?
asciilifeform: only one way.
asciilifeform: empirically
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mircea_popescu: it'd seem very superficially that if this is true the other name for it is "polichinelle's secret"
asciilifeform: mno.
asciilifeform: the concept of 'if random d00d pwned $victim, so has everyone' is only approximately true.
asciilifeform: because the incentive to actually sift through the raw data isn't presently there.
mircea_popescu: is there any particular reason the amateur that's not in a kool dude wot now will manage to get in the kool dude wot of the proposed market ?
asciilifeform: if the human element is maximally removed.
mircea_popescu: if that reason can be descreibed, is that reason anything but psychogenic ?
mircea_popescu: aham.
asciilifeform: bring magic key, get candy.
mircea_popescu: i am inclined to believe the solution to this problem is psychanalisis not software development.
mircea_popescu: then again... the past 50 years would look a lot different if i were actually right.
asciilifeform: the question of 'how do i know this candy dispenser contains candy and won't simply eat my key' is to be resolved using popescutronium (substance which powers atomic dirigible)
asciilifeform: hypothetically
mircea_popescu: how are you going to resolve dispute between party a which claims it ate its key and party b which claims the key was junk ?
mircea_popescu: specifically modeled for our convenience out of al schwartz.
mircea_popescu: so, he put in his key, and the result came out negatory. what now.
asciilifeform: it is a mistake to ask for a universal resolution to such a dispute, like asking for 'absolute velocity' in physics
mircea_popescu: the mistake is not to ask for it, the mistake is to contemplate a system that requires the question answered.
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that it does require it
kakobrekla: you need to call in ethereum
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: why would magical dragon risk his magic to get involved in a system that may well tarnish it for no reason ?
asciilifeform: on account of the impeccable reputation of the wizard who built it ?
mircea_popescu: it just became unimpeccable.
mircea_popescu: and the past few years have taught me a whole lot about the value and complexity of maintaining impeccability.
mircea_popescu: not an easy task for angels to actually walk the earth.
asciilifeform: must be so impeccable that it does not visibly diminish from a single dissatisfied dragon - any more than planet earth visibly loses gravitational pull from a rocket launched to outer space
mircea_popescu: that's ok, the rule is 0 1 infinity. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: your system goes to infinity.
mircea_popescu: anyway, by "magical dragon" i meant what you seem to mean by "wizard" just ftr.
asciilifeform: i must point out that i have sat on both sides of this (entirely absent) bench. both in search of secrets, ~and~ sitting on a small stash of 0days that will be buried with me ☟︎
mircea_popescu: why would THE WIZARD get involved in this, when there's an unbound negative result on the table.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only way he might consider it is if it were a ~bounded~ negative
asciilifeform: i.e. the secrets are sufficiently cheap (not of cosmic significance)
mircea_popescu: but when i tried that you said "it is a mistake to ask"
asciilifeform: sorta like most folks are happy to use 'coke' machines
asciilifeform: even though occasionally it eats the coin
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: the machine has a horrible reputation, and only survives in its abjection
asciilifeform: by all rights the machines ought to have disappeared by now
mircea_popescu: the usg did NOT survive eating the coin merely a few times.
asciilifeform: i wondered, often, if most 'coke' drinkers simply amortized the lost coins, mentally
mircea_popescu: don't come to me with a model that requires turning wizards into coke machines. there's no power to do so and the effort would be overall -ev anwyay
asciilifeform: again, the proposition is that there exists 'small change wizardry' which would find a place in a coke machine.
mircea_popescu: imo most coke drinkers do about the coins and machines what they do about their hopes and wives
asciilifeform: l0lwat
mircea_popescu: the only reason there's no coke machine murder-suicides is the low value of the item.
mircea_popescu: (same holds true for the recent downturn in actual marriages ended that way too)
asciilifeform: now that i think about it...
asciilifeform: coke machine 'murder-suicide' used to be sop! in usa
asciilifeform: until they started chaining the things to the wall
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: a quarter's not what it used to be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally most u.s. 'soda' machines have card slots now.
asciilifeform: (on account of multi-$ prices)
mircea_popescu: they a) no longer steal quarters and b) steal data.
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: everyone's happy : the plebs for a, the corp because b), as quarters weren't evenworth stealing
asciilifeform: one day some schmuck will build (for usg bid) a coke machine which dispenses the goop in exchange for a photo and dna sample
asciilifeform: and idiots will flock to it
mircea_popescu: why not ?
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: think about it - that's for many of them the ONLY chance they get to reproduce their dna.
mircea_popescu: you are aware, yes ? point of life for the genotype driven is reproducing the damned things
asciilifeform: machine will index for usg db, not for implantation, lol
mircea_popescu: orly ?
mircea_popescu: i dun think it cares.
asciilifeform: they only store a few thou. of sequence
mircea_popescu: that's the only thing keepiong the floodgates shut.
asciilifeform: i've wondered what kept various floodgates of shit, hypothesized in fiction of the past, shut. e.g., 'rent-free' flats with walls covered in stomach-churning blinking advertisements 24/7, pensions in return for forehead tatoos of 'coca cola', etc.
asciilifeform: and similar horrors
mircea_popescu: iirc tattoo advertising is a thing
asciilifeform: never caught on en masse, afaik
asciilifeform: could have something to do with the cargo-cult, 'stotting' aspect of advertising per se
asciilifeform: gazelle does not need to stot 3km high, on rocket power
trinque: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/man-face-tattoos-companies-pay-removal-article-1.1294437 <<
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8ANwi )
mircea_popescu has seen plenty of "property of X" crotch-and-other-places
mircea_popescu: does it cunt ?
mircea_popescu: +o
trinque: lol
asciilifeform: not unless 'x' is 'coca cola', 'bank of america', etc
mircea_popescu: actually the only tattoo i ever saw that i thought was cool,
mircea_popescu: this chick has on her pubis that original persian message, in greek.
mircea_popescu: you know, the one gorgo "decyphered" ?
asciilifeform: l0l!!
asciilifeform: as seen in herodot ?
mircea_popescu: iirc it was widely reported in teh ancient world.
asciilifeform: incidentally, did 'e-ink' ever make an appearance in tattoo shops ?
mircea_popescu: no idea.
mircea_popescu: trinque the lol part is, how often the tattood were in fact free agents or otherwise involved.
mats: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19210935/why-does-the-c-preprocessor-interpret-the-word-linux-as-the-constant-1
assbot: Why does the C preprocessor interpret the word "linux" as the constant "1"? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8BIgh )
trinque: face tattoes aren't really any worse than stretching out your earlobes
trinque: people will imitate anything
trinque: s/face/crotch/
mircea_popescu: the earlobe idiocy is really popular here in the hipster crowd
trinque: here as well
mircea_popescu: i suspect worthless argentines tryin to act brazilian tough
mircea_popescu: anyway, i see a point to actually signifying tattoos, those queen of spades ankle stuff, or the russian cat or whatever.
jurov: yes, i have read about e-ink tattoo. but all such things fall into uncanny valley together with google glass
jurov: question is, how much longer
trinque: it will be a very long time before I implant electronics in my body, if ever
trinque: they're going to have to pull off "laptop" first
jurov: i am wearing electronics on my ears all day, so i've got a tollerance. but saw nothing appealing so far
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163786 << well, why should only isis get some ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 13:10:56; mats: www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/world/europe/us-poised-to-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html
mircea_popescu: maybe the russians would want
trinque: "Russia/China poised to put heavy weaponry in Mexico and Canada."
mircea_popescu: mexico would make sense
mircea_popescu: i am kind of curious why neither are going for the "peace keeping" thing
mircea_popescu: state's in just as bad a shape as syria/ukraina/etc ever were.
trinque: yeah
mircea_popescu: perhaps because they're not retarded enough to be the us.
mircea_popescu: one should really stop and think for a moment if he notices that the opposing players eschew "opportunities" he himself wouldn't.
trinque: good point
trinque: and I wonder how long the other players will put up with our paranoid, incoherent moves against them
mircea_popescu: moreover, there are hard to miss parallels between this entire "saving the state" interventionism of the us coallition ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and the numerous coallitions of defeated european monarchs trying to save monarchies from napoleon
mircea_popescu: i think it's liable to go the same place - state's exactly as dead today as monarchy was in 1803
mircea_popescu: yes, some symbolic "states", about as related to historical states as the queen of england's to historical britsh monarchs will survive
mircea_popescu: in pockets of "nordic system" ness
mircea_popescu: but otherwise. .. the state is gone.
mircea_popescu: if anyone can explain the difference between "for king and country" of the blips of the 1800s and "for democracy1`11`11" of the redditards of today...
mircea_popescu: the similarities are overpowering. both groups are grossly acultural, clinging to ridiculously simplified worldviews and models of thought, and pretending to a legitimacy and importance that is both absent in the field and justified ideally and historically only.
trinque: in the reddit version perhaps it's much harder to see precisely who's giving the orders
trinque: pao? surely not
mircea_popescu: the same problem existed with the blips. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (the word has a particular slang meaning in english, a certain sort of beer drinking, saber rattling british citizen.)
scoopbot_revived: Slutennis http://trilema.com/2015/slutennis/
trinque: I think I found one https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHUMlfeUMAAekLc.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BbUBMk )
mircea_popescu: haha too vulgar.
mircea_popescu: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/57/bd/0d57bd3b61e45343644281ed7d1cca3f.jpg << this ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BbUIaO )
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mircea_popescu: Terry Gilliam is obsessed with them
trinque: ah ok, that must've been his great great grandson
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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://imgur.com/pE2zQPQ
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1BbWybz )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: thanks for the advice all
ben_vulpes: and yes asciilifeform it is "rusted solid" on the inside.
kakobrekla: thats a good thing?
jurov: rusted solid === genuine vintage
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what is that
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1164006 << ~blimps~ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2015 17:37:25; mircea_popescu: the same problem existed with the blips.
asciilifeform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4e/Colonel_Blimp_cartoon.png << as seen here.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUzt9J )
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: corvette
ben_vulpes off for a bit of motoring with pets
asciilifeform: i thought it was a block of rust ?
asciilifeform pictures ben_vulpes doing http://funnyrussians.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/povozka_1.jpg.crop_display.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUBaE7 )
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021444 B (Total: 426.05 B). Delta: 0.09 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000207 / 0.000207 / 0.000207 (15000 shares, 3.11 BTC)
mod6: haha. that horse drawn car is awesome.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00036863 = 10.2479 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: almost exactly! except it's pulled by my giant dog instead of any sort of horse
jurov: no yoked human females?
mod6: haha
jurov: http://oglaf.com/hereafter/ guess oglaf saw us discussing death this week
assbot: hereafter ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmhClk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6230 @ 0.00037355 = 2.3272 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski startup spacing issue corrected. Distinct hazard of staing into the idiocy is contact transmission of derp.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Fake words are also the hardest to spell
scoopbot_revived: Spy http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/14/spy/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right you are
ben_vulpes: /usr/include/features.h:374:25: fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory << novel and exciting failures in compiling openssl
mircea_popescu: cdefs.h doesn't sound like it would be needed anyway :D
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ben_vulpes: one would think, and yet openssl won't compile without cdefs.h apparently
ben_vulpes: anyways for future logreaders and software archaeologists:
ben_vulpes: fix for missing cdefs.h on ubuntu 14.04 was "g++-multilib"
ben_vulpes: now if anyone can tell me what the ever loving hell that actua.
funkenstein_: ben_vulpes, it's sudo apt-get turtles-dev all the way down
ben_vulpes: unacceptabru!
punkman: http://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/4-4/8MgA8Zancj-10.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1dFlP2L )
punkman: !up gares_
funkenstein_: punkman, friend of yours?
funkenstein_: the turtle i mean
punkman: I like turtles
funkenstein_: you know poo-tsee?