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phf: despite the references to brooks, nobody's actually practicing what brooks advocated, so the name and the books are reduced to a charm. yet another cargo cult
asciilifeform: phf: consider the sheer degree of unabashed cargocultism in the endless rehash of the lava lamp thing
BingoBoingo: Then there's always going to be some incredibly time insensitive goods needing moving, which will preserve some form of shipping. Hence riverboats still traveling the Mississippi, but rarely with cargo that isn't bird attractant.
BingoBoingo: And the birds theive their cargo
elaineo: cargo cult arguing-on-the-internet
kanzure: trained it on 80k hours of audio books. admittedly, 'machine learning' is 98% cargo cult bullshit.
asciilifeform: i thought it was marketed to cargo lines
asciilifeform: lol 'inversecargocult'
mircea_popescu: there's a very strictly defined ingredient which distinguishes the cargo cult scavenger worlds from the renaissance scavenger worlds.
asciilifeform: it is in this case specifically cargocultism, rather than application
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 20:39 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/EHFoJ << in somewhat vintage cargocultisms.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1675463 << in somewhat vintage cargocultisms. >> "Korean women want to know the secret. They found the secret in this book." << lol "You, too, can do 'it'!" ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/EHFoJ << in somewhat vintage cargocultisms. ☟︎
asciilifeform: sorta why ben gurion had the boat shelled and the survivors - machine-gunned. had 0 to do with the cargo, but with the 900+ irgun recruits on board, who didn't yet 'want to go shopping'
mats: (cn's first cargo spacecraft, Tianzhou-1, performs autodock with Tiangong-2 spacelab)
asciilifeform: the 1 clue i have, is that time when megatonnes of chinese cargo were held up . and there was expectation of shortages, or at least some sort of visible splash in usa konsoomer sector. and there was 0 (in as far as naked eye.)
asciilifeform: bricklin became, at least until rise of microshit and its cargocults -- a cult figure
asciilifeform: trinque: i wonder how much of this is from a cargo-cult preference for 'what programmer monkeys WOULDN'T use'
shinohai: A fictional cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: even at a time people couldn't be arsed to ~physically inspect~ russkis anymore, just paid for the cargo whole.
asciilifeform: ( picture for a moment trying to sell a working airplane to cargocultists. 'what's petrol?' 'this thing is heavy' 'waitasec i have to learn to read?!' etc )
trinque: fusion powered emdrive starship with quantum computing cargo knapsacker!1!11
mircea_popescu: originally my "trei ani de experienta" (three years' experience) was a stab at the deeply illiterate, cargo-cultish third world shithole that was romania.
phf: movie is sort of an absurdist take on cargo cultism. in this case the quotes are instructions on social ritual on a backwards planet, that are obviously meaningless. a su viewer would see parallels to own life
mircea_popescu: cargo cultism all the way.
ben_vulpes: let the cargo culting begin
asciilifeform: a strange cargo-cultism.
phf: lars bak used to work on high performance smalltalk virtual machines, then java. v8 is still the case "ok, let me write some semblance of sane technology for this shit language of yours". since then everything that's happened around javascript is cargoculting v8
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 21:29 asciilifeform: trinque: consider: a 'saturn' and the maersk cargo fleet cost similarly. but they are unlike: 'saturn' is a cult/religious object (in the sense where nobody seriously attempts to calculate its roi) , rather more like the great pyramids.
ben_vulpes: now see for cargo plane to remotish location...
asciilifeform: but if your picture of it is based on the ubiquitous southkr/usg crapolade, you would imagine it is a cargo cult pygmy set with straw airplanes.
asciilifeform: trinque: consider: a 'saturn' and the maersk cargo fleet cost similarly. but they are unlike: 'saturn' is a cult/religious object (in the sense where nobody seriously attempts to calculate its roi) , rather more like the great pyramids. ☟︎
asciilifeform: that cargo cultists build 'airplane', does not show that airplane is a scam.
mircea_popescu: that it's used for exactly the sort of ritualized, cargo cultish bullshit a la "purge males!11 womenz can be suit people too!!1" is far from surprising. what the fuck else would it do
phf: trinque: mechanics of padmasana doesn't put weight on knees. i don't know what that lady is doing (that picture is straight up cargo cult), but even in her caise majority of her weight is on the lower buttocks
phf: this sort of cargo cult bullshit https://yogalongbeach.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/yoga-desk.jpg
asciilifeform: http://www.cargolaw.com/images/Disaster2000.Cole.14.GIF << y'know, uss cole
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if the thing is landing cargo of cocaine or plutonium in your back yard, the noise is not 'whatever'
asciilifeform: and came to conclusion that there is a massive hole in the scheme sketched out in subj link, that i can drive a maersk cargo liner through.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if this is a thing, how come nobody afaik uses old cargo ship as office space.
asciilifeform: 'The bankruptcy of the Hanjin shipping line has thrown ports and retailers around the world into confusion, with giant container ships marooned and merchants worrying whether tons of goods will reach their shelves. The South Korean giant filed for bankruptcy protection on Wednesday and stopped accepting new cargo. With its assets being frozen, ships from China to Canada found themselves refused permission to offload or take aboard co
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's model, in ru sphere is called 'inverse cargocult' - i.e. 'there are no airplanes, anywhere'
mircea_popescu: this model is built on some axioms. one of which is "dumb people". not smart people. the moment you turn around and try to apply it to engineers you plainly demonstrate you have absolutely no connection to the people who come up with this, but merely cargo cultist, following motions.
asciilifeform: there are few folks more 'batshit' than cargocultist who manages to build a ~working~ glider.
asciilifeform: 'it worx shockingly!' is almost automatic way to produce a cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suddenly puts the japanese "music afficionados" in their proper context. cargo cult of something from the 40s.
asciilifeform: what else can cargocult do. you expected a working plane ?
asciilifeform: cargocultism and veblenism, what else.
asciilifeform: good deal to send some ~other~ poor fuck on, to carry cargo.
mircea_popescu: and in other "nobody reads trilema" news, http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/#comment-118212
mircea_popescu: same thing, throughout. buenos aires has a night life, god help you if you try to go out. it has shops, god help you if you try to you know, find the most common industrial product in deployment over the whole country (ie, the heating element from http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/ )
asciilifeform: but yes, it is a result of 'we Just Want To move cargo'
mircea_popescu: especially his discussion of kqueue and the hashtable/array duality + fd_getfile workings strictly indicates a) he's an idiot ; b) that http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/ 's "This is what cargo cultism is, you see : memetic stupidity, inescapable for the aculturated. Even if they try. Especially if they try." is exactly right and, sadly, c) that alf is exactly correct : we can't have computers as a continuation
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study <<
asciilifeform: the airgap thing is a cargo cult. sorta like proposing to prevent ALL disease by washing hands.
asciilifeform: fella's obsession with photoisolator (e.g., https://maqp3d.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/tfc-cev ) is also cargocultist.
deedbot: [Trilema] Cargo cults, a case study. - http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/
asciilifeform: or possibly this is rather like complaining that cargo cult straw airplane lacks real hydraulics
mircea_popescu: "The House bill, for example, includes $1.5 billion for an unrequested modern “amphibious” warship for dual land and sea missions, $400 million for four unrequested C-40 aircraft to carry cargo and commanders, and $1 billion worth of unrequested National Guard equipment, a perennial pork-barrel favorite, the Taxpayers for Common Sense report said. " << so basically, 1`000`000 smartphones.
asciilifeform: the locals have own rhythm of life, mostly ignore martians; cars stop in the middle of streets, boys run out with 'cargo', deliver, run back; etc
mircea_popescu: in other cargo cunt lulz, http://insidemydirtyfilthymind.tumblr.com/post/113320480712/sex-doll-latex-lucy
mircea_popescu: and to best understand HOW the turkeyization works, consider the case of argentina, wherein exist both an old cuckold by the name turner as well as a young rapist by the name popescu. now, for whatever imponderable cargo cult reasons (see http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ for discussion), the local cunts want "dollars". there's a huge difference between situation 1, where turner has 100, and situation 2, wh
asciilifeform: but i was speaking of archetypical cargo cult derp, who is eternally male.
mircea_popescu: if you knew your plane would end up on cargo cult island anywya, would you bother with anything serious ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 18:05 asciilifeform: and i imagine it must suck to be the owner of a real airplane landed on cargo cult island, it will promptly be ripped apart for parts to decorate straw planes the moment you look away
asciilifeform: at any rate, not all cargo cults are the same! in an american home, you are much more likely to find barbells nobody lifts, elaborate exercise machinery that is rusted solid, etc.
asciilifeform: and i imagine it must suck to be the owner of a real airplane landed on cargo cult island, it will promptly be ripped apart for parts to decorate straw planes the moment you look away ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that golf is actual game, vs weird status cargocult thing
asciilifeform: why does cargocult airplane need straw propeller.
asciilifeform: think of the cargocultists.
asciilifeform: since when does cargocult involve thought
asciilifeform: raw cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: that right there is cargo cultism at its peach pit core.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/calidad-de-vida-or-my-days-among-the-cargo-cult/#comment-116961 << answrd
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/calidad-de-vida-or-my-days-among-the-cargo-cult/#comment-116959
deedbot-: [Trilema] Calidad de Vida, or My Days Among The Cargo Cult. - http://trilema.com/2016/calidad-de-vida-or-my-days-among-the-cargo-cult/
asciilifeform: my original point is that it is also not related to pete_dushenski's peculiar cargo cultisms
asciilifeform: it is sop, a cargo-cultist's film about aeronautics
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 05:50:02; *: BingoBoingo not sure if Qntra worthy, anyone got an angle? http://news.softpedia.com/news/sea-pirates-hacked-shipping-company-to-find-valuable-cargo-501268.shtml
BingoBoingo not sure if Qntra worthy, anyone got an angle? http://news.softpedia.com/news/sea-pirates-hacked-shipping-company-to-find-valuable-cargo-501268.shtml ☟︎
mircea_popescu: whether you are or aren't : the notion that what nadia heninger did is in any way related to what nadia heninger "got" is the core and the root of cargo cultism.
mircea_popescu: what's cargoculting ?
phf: cargoculting /proc and disabling almost everything. on mbp issue is mostly with discrete ATI card
asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/bejaranodelgado/status/589634676093943808 << cargocult idiots.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 18:29:41; asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era.
asciilifeform: no amount of travel or whatnot can cure a man who experienced western civilization in 1960, and believes that we can bring back the airplanes by cargoculting to what he perceives as the rules of the era. ☟︎
danielpbarron: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CapAL87WIAA6k9M.jpg:large << cargocult othernews
mircea_popescu: and in other "strange cargo cult worshippers of incomprehensible machine-god" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qiu7mzXa1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: understand this "can" correctly : can cargo cult tribe build any item out of straw and mud that they wish ?
ascii_butugychag: but perhaps i merely suffer from 'reverse cargocult'
copypaste: except instead of just letting potentially thousands of people stick around in an airport, they'll just be loaded in a cargo plane and dumped over whatever remains of the midwest :p
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2016#1359960 << lol lemme guess, these kids think 'pollution' is carbon but nox is just 'inconvenient' ? either way, kinda funny how non-oil freight shipping is in trouble atm and the 'evil carbon' payloads are the only profitable cargo. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
BingoBoingo: Aren't they notorious for killing their entire crew and cargo?
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Shouldn’t we be surprised to learn that an importer owns and operates its own ships? It’s probably not the comparative advantage for even the largest importers. And here’s the thing: Dole isn’t one of the country’s top three importers of containerized cargo. Instead it’s the fifth, after Walmart, Target, Home Depot, and Lowe’s. But you won’t see boxes or ships owned by these companies. I
ascii_field: 'The Coast Guard said the fire occurred as the ship was loading a cargo of liquid ethylene.'
punkman: as long as we don't end up with cargo-cult footnoting
mircea_popescu: the problem with cargo cultism being, of course, that the only thing it produces is frustration.
mircea_popescu: it is, to them, the reality of the daytime tv drama. the scholarly term for this is, "cargo cult".
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 20:28:32; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324951 << i'm sure i'm not the only one who appreciate and benefit from an expansion of this point. for myself, particularly the "cargo cult" element is one that's not immediately apparent.