BingoBoingo: Otherwise I'd consider blackberry under the windows
BingoBoingo: "All three cases are bad news. Bitcoin Core does not restart itself automatically. If a node dies or freezes up it requires the owner to notice restart it manually, each and every time." << Why should bitcoind care to restart itself? That's what python is for.
mod6: I started it up few days ago just after I looked over the Orphanage_Thermonuke Patch: # ps aux | grep "bitcoind"
mod6: root 11454 42.4 7.9 506848 313992 ? SLsl May05 1797:41 ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin/ -daemon
mod6: its on a deb6 x86_64 environment.
mod6: and units? as in mem page size? 4096
mircea_popescu: and no. i dunno what us you live in, but civil cases do not go to trail the same year
mircea_popescu: i dunno what us you live in, but the civil docket is A LOT lulzier than this. if there were a lulzy sorting algo i'd prolly never see a judge.
mircea_popescu: (i seriously recommend this - go hang out in court for a few hours. divorce is best, tax is also pretty good, but even menial traffic tickets is golden often enough)
mircea_popescu: yeah, medical malpractice tends to be mostyly bathetic
mircea_popescu: the facts usually aren't. the effort and sheer flailing people expend at trying topretend otherwise...
mod6: asciilifeform: this instance is a "m3.medium" which is allocated 3.75 gb RAM. the units in "free" and vmstat [free,buff,cache] are in bytes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61800 @ 0.00022178 = 13.706 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 195450 @ 0.00022461 = 43.9 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0002088 / 0.0002216 / 0.00023603 (9626820 shares, 2,133.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00019511 / 0.0002378 / 0.00031162 (33949296 shares, 8,073.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00019511 / 0.00027496 / 0.00033918 (97493408 shares, 26,806.97 BTC)
mod6: got my pogo today :]
mod6: now i gotta get a drive, solder & soldering iron.
mod6: and some wires... and a serial port
mod6: ok. i've gotta read through all of the docs & logs like 3 times before I play with it.
mod6: i do need some EE practice anyway.
mod6: i gotta get one of those little chips too!
mod6: i was talking actually about the other little guy.
mod6: ah, ok. only $3 on ebay. ~$8-10 on amazon
mod6: ah, ok. seems right.
mod6: breadboard is only $7
mod6: there is a 75pc wire pack looks like i might need too, ~$5
mod6: i will zap myself. question is, how many times lol
mod6: ah, *whew* guess you're right. no worries.
mod6: hmm. how do you regulate the input voltage?
mod6: well, actually, best to talk about this later when i actually /have/ the stuff. heheh.
mod6 is like EE preschooler.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58850 @ 0.00022254 = 13.0965 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 00:45:00; mod6: ah ha! yes. :]
ben_vulpes: look danielpbarron there's a function in common lisp named for you!
☟︎ trinque: oh man, many lols when I discovered that
ben_vulpes: "give me this really specific leaf on the tree plz"
trinque: I used a 2 or 3 recently, held my nose while doing so
ben_vulpes now has binary data, must now figure out how to do it
ben_vulpes: word from officemates was "this is the perfect thing to write in c!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91252 @ 0.00022649 = 20.6677 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: [,duh'pib] or [,duh'puhb] or ['dee'pee'bee] << I go with the third
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: whoa where did that come from?
ben_vulpes: did this syllable set (or some derivative) end up in urbit?
trinque: is this urbit thing ever going to give sane names to its abstractions?
trinque: every time it comes up I get interested, go try to read about it, give up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7948 @ 0.0002327 = 1.8495 BTC [+]
trinque: asciilifeform: would probably help one assess the ideas if it were possible to tell what they are
trinque: "When Arvo is working, ^C cancels the event it's working on. This event never happened. Don't worry, nothing bad will happen to your computer."
trinque: sounds awesome; typically called transactions not events
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83350 @ 0.00022311 = 18.5962 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I more astounded the "privacy" crowd still uses IMAP over POP3
BingoBoingo: I mean who seriously leaves emails on servers
ben_vulpes: look everything sensitive's encrypted, what of it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39950 @ 0.00022254 = 8.8905 BTC [-]
trinque: I only send dick pics by smtp
trinque: (admittedly I've put way too much effort into having email handled by a box under my own control)
trinque: to what ends... probably none
trinque: yeh I can twiddle the knobs on postfix, wouldn't mind sharing
trinque: maybe next hack night, provided I'm sufficiently drunk.
trinque: postfix is ancient braindamage of a whole other category
BingoBoingo: Nah, you send the dick pics on Snapchat so NSA can see and become demoralized and desensitized
trinque: ah the great dick revolution of 2022
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194100 @ 0.00022073 = 42.8437 BTC [-]
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decimation:
http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/04/scott_sumner_on.html < "One of the things that disturbs me about the current world--and this is irrational, I suppose--but it bothers me that my children are growing up in a time when the return to setting money aside for the future is close to zero. So, when you say to them, 'You could save some money and don't have to buy everything with the money you have,' their response, which is correct,
decimation: is, 'Well, what's the point?' They look at their savings accounts, they are getting pennies. Pennies. And it's a fool's game."
decimation: "Guest: Let's think about how strange that observation is. You're absolutely right. But just to drive home the point of how strange that is, this worry the people have, you and many others, is occurring at exactly the same time that Thomas Piketty has become famous making exactly the opposite claim--that the capitalists are doing better and better and the workers are doing worse and worse"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111950 @ 0.00021904 = 24.5215 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: who would have thought, the us copying mexico. except, of course, everyone aware of history.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: l0l tails is still a thing << how would tails cease being a thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134750 @ 0.00022218 = 29.9388 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: bitch, i don't "worry" about the future. i know what capital formation is, and what ownership is, and so on. these kids will never matter, because they will never own anything, and because they don't even know what that means.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a worry. this is empathy. i understand how fucked the bug is, even as i crush it under my boot. it is, after all, a bug.
BingoBoingo: Yellow Dog linux similarly could not improve. Was PPC Mac linux, when PPC Macs faded and other *nic found the platform faded
mircea_popescu: anyway, to round off the capital thing : without ownership you can not force anyone to care about you. whether you can or can not force me to care about you, i will force you to care about me. the illustration of this narrative are the sufferances of young gavin. he drank the "piketty" aka libertard coolaid, and now here he is, wondering what the fuck happened.
mircea_popescu: welllll... what else could have happened. "it's easier" is the siren song of the "you will NEVER matter" siren.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11711 @ 0.00022272 = 2.6083 BTC [+]
decimation: Russ's children being unable to gain 'risk-free' returns at the bank actually is a good thing in my opinion
trinque: the idea that saving isn't saving unless you're also receiving a return is itself braindamaged
trinque: smacks of the thing where nobody's capable of taking action unless externally "incentivized"
BingoBoingo: <trinque> the idea that saving isn't saving unless you're also receiving a return is itself braindamaged << But you aren't saving, you are lending
decimation: utilization fee” of 1 percent a year on deposits in excess of the money they need for their operations. "
decimation: computers use power, cost money, expose one to risk
decimation: elect will throw them some bread & circuses) to keep them off his and his family’s back."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131880 @ 0.00022299 = 29.4079 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: asciilifeform: his remedy: "For starters, (1) Get absolute rid of all tax advantages for setting up ‘Family Foundations’ and ‘Blind Charitable Trusts’ and all that BS. GET COMPLETE RID OF ALL SUCH STRUCTURES. (2) Giant wealth-tax – like 95% flat garnishment – on all net-worth above, say, $10 million.Then let’s just see how many Richie Progressives (not to mention Warren Buffets) of the world go around in the media
decimation: saying they ‘want’ such a policy – and backing the (D) pols who propose it. "
decimation: not gonna happen, but would be lulzy to see it tried
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, there are two goals - keep the underclass paid off and keep the kulaks from threatening your merit-washed heirs
decimation: asciilifeform: imagining that you can use the king's scrip against him is silly
decimation: the top 20% pay 20% tax rate, and the top 1% pay 29%
decimation: note that 20% hurts someone making $100k way more than 30% hurt someone making $3 mil
decimation: so the rates 'look' fair while being a stumbling block for the up-and-coming
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. also if you have $3 mil per year income, it is highly likely that you have many times that in net worth, and thus can modulate your taxable income at your leisure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152550 @ 0.00022841 = 34.8439 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: asciilifeform: also note that the people at the bottom and top of the income spectrum have plenty of tax-free income opportunities
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 172500 @ 0.00023313 = 40.2149 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 238008 @ 0.00023563 = 56.0818 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77242 @ 0.00023695 = 18.3025 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the amusing dilemma of the defeated being, of course, that they're stuck either exposing themselves in a doomed charge,
BingoBoingo: Now "phone home" isn't as bad as Hearn forking in March 2013, but phone home is still bad for people who chose Armory
BingoBoingo: It took a lot of time to get the Qntra gloat piece at just the right amount of gloat.
mircea_popescu: decimation : the idea that the poor have some sort of choice or whatever is so damned laughable. to quote myself, "Not only is the consumer about as screwed as is currently the case, but to everyone's benefit he has just been clearly proven yet again that revolt = being fucked in the ass harder, longer, with a thicker implement with sharper barbs on it. "
BingoBoingo: And yet all of the people previously demonstrated to be aligned against Bitcoin while acting otherwise really seem to be sweating this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00023695 = 4.194 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the problem with not being an independent agent is exactly this : the loser's dilemma. either you charge to your doom or you get shot for treason.
BingoBoingo: In other news most of my meatspace contacts are now getting that rosebush as mother's day presents. Just looking at the odds it is almost inevitable of of their moms is going to pirate it.
BingoBoingo: The fiat fail is a pattern though. People near the top like Blair and Bradley with ItBit or Altman with CoinBase say they are cool with the law and people lower down in Utah and Iowa say STFU they have laws too.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if you can be dekulakized - that wealth wasn't really yours. some nice fella just felt like letting you use it for a spell. << quite. and quite shockingly how it works in bitcoin too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 212458 @ 0.00023801 = 50.5671 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news, Submissions: 18160 / Known Moduli: 14733 / Moduli Waiting for Test: 2018
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 313859 @ 0.00024115 = 75.6871 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: anyway, the strong set's not much more than 40-50k keys or so, iirc.
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'm not sure how many keys that get "life critical" use would be in the "strong set" anyways
BingoBoingo: Who hasn't. With all the mongo and the beans
BingoBoingo: Great might not be giving it enough credit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 233829 @ 0.000243 = 56.8204 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: that IS a get out of the circle card. because once you're aware, everything you do is more or less successful, but nevertheless in THIS line.
mircea_popescu: whereas for the unaware, this question unposed, everything they do is a waste.
mircea_popescu: it's exactly like the difference between knowing and not knowing that washing hands prevents peripueral fever. now, for as long as you don't know, you don't know. once you do know, it all reduces to a question of how well you washed your hands.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm also thinking MPEx account keys, et al
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's mostly debian, practically. but mostly dead debian.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hence life critical yet no reason to be in strong set. Many other "in anger" keys likely same or similar. If not now, soon.
mircea_popescu: the thing we're stumbling on here is that the usecase for pubkeys is really two distinct things.
mircea_popescu: one is, key as to be used on mpex. the other is, key as to be used on deedbot
mircea_popescu: bulk is a PARTICULARLY venomous anti-property of secure items
pete_dushenski: looks like pipe (left), papers (middle), and grinder (right)
assbot: How Fake News Articles And Lies About Billionaires Were Used To Market An Iffy Dietary Supplement - Forbes ... (
http://bit.ly/1H5iG9b )
mircea_popescu: The company that makes the supplements disavowed ownership of these advertisements, saying that they were produced by “affiliate marketers” who were not its responsibility. In fact, many of the websites investigated by Forbes traced back to a single individual whose phone voice mail said he worked at a carpet cleaning business. One of the product’s pages — BrainStormElite.org, but not BrainStormElite.com —
mircea_popescu: is registered to a self-styled new age internet entrepreneur.
pete_dushenski: all these derps competing over teh same stack of other, less crafty derps.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "If you wish to make a name for yourself, find a way - preferably, a systematic way - out of this conundrum." << systematic being... this place ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nono, what's being discussed there is the monthy pyton problem.
mircea_popescu: find a way to make creative lines have a good punch line.
mircea_popescu: “I have many irons in the fire when it comes to projects,” Shanks writes on his website, “from health, to wealth, to blogging and establishing a community movement, my arms are ready and my eyes wide open to welcome as many of you as I can, to serve a higher purpose, help others create success, happiness and prosperity in life.”
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: is this monty python approach not more broadly applicable ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well then what chance does anyone else have !
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105500 @ 0.00024377 = 25.7177 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some "internet entrepreneur" dedicated to "creating freedom"
mircea_popescu: or in other words : bitcoin idiots / the sort of "entrepreneurs" gavin talks to weren't invented by bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: they pre-existed it, and will continue to indefinitely exist. like any other weed.
mircea_popescu: "My message has always been the same. Hard Work, Dedication, and have been the core wisdom I hope to transfer into you as a thank you for reading, visiting, and absorbing my thoughts, feelings, and outlook on life."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16744 @ 0.00024416 = 4.0882 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to watch, or in his own words, "From Higher Health to Inner Wealth, Levitational Perception helps ~Levitate your mind, Elevate your game~ Be You. Stay True. Stay Sweet. Stay Sexy. ~Stay Wavy Baby~"
mircea_popescu: he probably goes around the mall in whatever ohio he lives in, saying "stay wavy baby" to tgi tuesdays waitresses and shoe store attendants.
mircea_popescu: not everyone went to the same kindergarten as you, asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform never heard of them, and it looks exactly like a scam.
mircea_popescu: so then misers ? eh... i bet you one thing, they'll gladly take your money.
mircea_popescu: "The creative essence within the story of “Troy Shanks (Athelete to Alchemist to Alpha)” is about Perpetual Regeneration to Levitational Perception. That is, the foundational biological imperative concept of Higher Health to Inner Wealth (Internal Paradise = External Reflection).
mircea_popescu: As virtually limitless amounts of cosmic epiphanies began to dawn on me, timeless transcendence of my timelessly presence in the ‘Holy Shift of B.S.’ (belief systems) about universal life started a Higher Truth transformation twist in my life from I to We (think illness to wellness)."
mircea_popescu: and this, my dear friends, is what early schizophrenia looks like.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the holy shit of bs i intend to steal, it's pretty good.
mircea_popescu: the shanonizer in question runs on his own personal wetware, and the squeaks you hear have names.
mircea_popescu: "With so many words of wisdom at-hand to express my creative play on words, deciding which in-formation of thoughts, feelings, and actions to choose from to impose my identity with is not easy. Acting with effortless presence in a transcendental meditative state in our beautiful blue biosphere of biological beings is becoming the best, greatest, highest version of our SELF."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: wavy's quote is "holy shiFt of bs" if it makes a difference.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that difference would be lost on him.
mircea_popescu: Mils Electronic Gesmbh & Co.kg does not have any Key Executives recorded.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't necessarily know anything, no. nevertheless... what government do they sell to ? turkmenistan ?
assbot: Mils-Electronic Gesellschaft m.b.H. & Co. Kommanditgesellschaft - IT-Dienstleistung - Firmeninfos - Handel, Information und Consulting - Firmen A-Z ... (
http://bit.ly/1H5lx1R )
mircea_popescu: one Otto Kugler. they've permits in relevant fields it seems.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, your museum piece doth not mention the ceo/cfo/etc kugler guy.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.64, Best ask: 237.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 237.69, 24 hour volume: 26606.23381427, 24 hour low: 227.81, 24 hour high: 239.79, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96700 @ 0.0002417 = 23.3724 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !rate ben_vulpes 4 B,TMSR~ secret spy and influence agent in Cascadia
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 04:50:27; mircea_popescu: isn't THE POINT of the thing to GET THE CANS ?
mircea_popescu: !rate asciilifeform 4 He came up with the Cardano For Christmas marketing plan. Also phuctor.
cazalla: as a kid, some friends and i use to go around collecting cans, weekends were best after local cricket.. stuff some and in there for extra weight and earn yourself $2 for a bag of lollies
cazalla: if someone is willing to truck em interstate, all the more to em i say
cazalla: stuff some sand i meant to say
cazalla has begun knocking back the booze
mircea_popescu: !rate davout 4 X.EUR, apparently working on the proper French pronounciation of "pogo"
cazalla: drinking? i don't drink as much as i did before my short stint working, but now back at home each day, figured why not have a drink tonight
cazalla: well you probably don't have much reason to do so
cazalla: seeing the missus and kid 24/7 again drives one to crack open a bottle or two
mircea_popescu: !rate danielpbarron 3 Logician in charge of logistics.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124150 @ 0.00024837 = 30.8351 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: is not registered in WoT.
pete_dushenski curious, but too tired to see if he ends up plussed (or negged!) in this evening's ratings updates par mp.
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mircea_popescu: !rate phantomcircuit -10 One of the Bitcoinica scammers. Also famous for having sent the whole userbase the emails of the whole userbase back when he was running some derpy "exchange" thing. Altogether the lowest sort of scum infesting Bitcoin - whenever you interact with him god kills a kitten.
gribble: Error: "googe" is not a valid command.
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d35caba4fd90515600914234ae6796f76d683934336b73edf405a4dd
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
gribble: You rated user phantomcircuit on Tue Feb 10 15:24:55 2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Aka Patrick Strateman. That he has the unmitigated audacity to pretend he is a Bitcoin dev is unsurprising for the history of this felon. His name is permanently besmirched by one of the most inept frauds in the history of Bitcoin (Bitcoinica). He is also famous for (1 more message)
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cazalla: fkn logs hard to read with a drunken costanza squint
cazalla: feels like a million miles away from the monitor
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cazalla: unban vexual da fuck is this racism against true blue australians :\
☟︎ chetty: hey cazalla I think you and me only ones awake :P
chetty: suns not even up here, much less over the yardarm
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cazalla: fuck that song is liek 25 years old now
cazalla: not a single indian or asian cunt in the crowd
cazalla: no way get fucked fuck off
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gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 17 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00024936 = 24.936 BTC [-]
cazalla: miss a day of #b-a? need a note from your dr
cazalla: nothing worse than drinking enough to get tired and going to bed but not enought to knock you out cold so you get back up for a bit more youtubing and maybe a little mfc
cazalla: he face planted into the floor boards and tried to eat the play-doh i bought him today
cazalla: i'm like.. don't run.. so he runs and goes head over heals and whack.. what can ya do? they don't fucking listen
cazalla: missus had a cry too because he hits her
cazalla: toddlers are sorta like jews, call out and cry as they strike you
☟︎ cazalla: i spent much more time there before i found #b-a
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 04:04:38; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how would you feel if you had to live in a place where nobody used words longer than 4 letters ?
cazalla: sorta disintegrated since 4chan became cuckchan and 8chan can't pay the bills
cazalla: i guess the difference is that /pol/ assigns the problems cause by an individual to the group whereas #b-a does not
cazalla: and when i tried to discuss Bitcoin with them i was accused of being a JIDF shill
gabriel_laddel: IMHO, the differences between #b-a and /pol/ are many. /pol/ doesn't like it when they're censored and complains about how unfair things are. MP, and ascii both look ahead and see the need for WoTnet. MP commissions it out of pocket.
☟︎ cazalla: well, my example is not the only one, just something i've observed myself
cazalla: i'm on the lower end of the totem pole here, not so bad to realise such a thing though
cazalla: that's not some liberal leftist self flagellation either
cazalla: if and when it comes time to cut throats, well i suspect i'll ace that compared to some others
☟︎ cazalla: know your role and do it well eh
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assbot: btcdrak is not registered in WoT.
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fluffypony: btcdrak: good posts on the mailing list btw
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mod6: danielpbarron: hahah
danielpbarron: "I don?t really have a strong opinion on block size either?but if we?re going to do a hard fork, let?s use this as an opportunity to create a good process for hard forks (which we?ll inevitably need to do again in the future)." << leave it up to these guys and the 21 million cap will be lifted in a matter of years
chetty: Whatever the technical issues on block size, the danger of letting pretty much one person drive a change should be obvious
thestringpuller: I'm starting to think everytime you kill a Gavin-esque zombie, it's already infected 10 innocents which then become zombies.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: the 2nd order ones are only 1/1000th as powerful though. still +ev.
decimation: asciilifeform: note that there is going to be a very large flight of WWII aircraft over the national mall today
pete_dushenski: "Wait, you're doing a warrant check on me before I can report a robbery? Oh yeah, we gotta know who you are before we take a complaint. You and everyone you’re living with? What’s your address again? You still want to report that robbery?"
decimation: including the only working B-29 apparently
pete_dushenski: clearly this isn't stopping the surprisingly prolific funkenstein_ but still.
decimation: asciilifeform: of course - noticably missing su aircraft
decimation: actually it does look like they have some su aircraft, not sure if they will be there otday
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gabriel_laddel: funkenstein_: "You may have some idea in your mind that things like cancer, intelligence, and obesity are in some way caused by genetics. By the time you are done reading this post, I hope you will no longer labour under this gross misconception." << wait, so intelligence is in no way caused by genetics?
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funkenstein_: gabriel_laddel, no i can't get a dog to pass the BC calc test but that is hardly a proof of causation
pete_dushenski: 1enjoying your posts, especially the remarkable 'march 18' lot !
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gabriel_laddel: funkenstein_: do you agree that memory is a component of intelligence?
funkenstein_: lol, yeah most of that stuff was started like 8 months ago.
funkenstein_: gabriel_laddel, I do concede that without things like genetics, air to breathe, gravity and such, we wouldn't have intelligence as we know it
funkenstein_: and of course, if you are missing a few chromosomes its unlikely you will be the next satoshi
gabriel_laddel: funkenstein_: aw come on, walk all the way to the obvious conclusion.
gabriel_laddel: "and of course, if you are missing a few chromosomes its unlikely you will be the next satoshi"
funkenstein_: if you are missing a good water supply you are also not going to be the next satoshi
funkenstein_: there's a difference between an environmental and a causal agent.
Adlai: what is intelligence, though? maybe "likeliness of being the next satoshi" is a good starting point for a better definition
Adlai: previous attempts to define intelligence seem focused on measuring performance in various capacities
funkenstein_: schiesse, now i've gone and stepped in a can of worms haven't i
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funkenstein_: Adlai, some of these terms are kind of like "heap", they seem to want to avoid precise definition
Adlai: rather than answer my own question, I'll pose another... many moons ago, while applying for an exclusive elitist summer course for kids in philosophy or paradoxes or somesuch, the instructor interviewed each kid individually
Adlai: the interview consisted of a single question: "what is humor?"
ben_vulpes eagerly anticipates learning from asciilifeform what novel idiocy the "$9 compudder" ships with
Adlai: mircea_popescu: the exact words have long since succumed to neoconservative GC, but something to the tune of "something is funny when it surprises the listener in a manner which makes sense in retrospect, but the speaker knew in advance was unexpected"
gabriel_laddel: <funkenstein_> if you are missing a good water supply you are also not going to be the next satoshi << ;; google east asian malnutrition IQ
Adlai: inline comments double semicolon plz
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to call it a syllogism. what if you don't know you're missing x ? what thrones of china you're missing that you never had ?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, newton did not have a clean water supply.
funkenstein_: gabriel_laddel, thnks interesting.. but my point was more along the lines of you have to at least have what it takes to stay alive
gabriel_laddel: funkenstein_: my point is more along the lines of even with "enough to stay alive" negros produce nothing of interest.
funkenstein_: gabriel_laddel, then you aren't working with any
mircea_popescu: all it takes is a will to stay alive, which pointedly includes the will to drink your blood if ity comes to it.
Adlai: gabriel_laddel: you must have terrible taste in music
mircea_popescu: which explains exactly why plenty of people who manage to stay alive don't manage anything else.
decimation: I've been told by chinese engineer students that many in rural china survive on alcohol
chetty: egyptians mostly lived on beer
funkenstein_: 72 hrs is the commonly stated lifetime of a person without water
mircea_popescu: anyway, egypt still has an ancient network of clean water canisters, as a public service, a day's walk away from the others
mircea_popescu: yo danielpbarron dun worry about it, "defo" means definitely.
Adlai: gabriel_laddel: the presence of "feat" in the video title makes me highly suspicious and unwanting to click
thestringpuller: funkenstein_: beer is mostly sugar lol. trying to hydrate on beer isn't the best idea...
Adlai: some monks live off beer during lent
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pete_dushenski: ha! so that latins *can* invent things. (unless this too was stolen from china ?)
mircea_popescu: anyway, the great love of beer in europe almost exactly maps to the late imperial recruiting grounds in europe.
☟︎ diametric: mircea_popescu: got the mail, thanks.
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mats: so, i got two weeks notice today
gribble: Current Blocks: 355539 | Current Difficulty: 47643398017.803 | Next Difficulty At Block: 356831 | Next Difficulty In: 1292 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 20 hours, 6 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48750393774.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.3235
mats: delivery on key server project may take an additional month or two
mats: i did a mix of front and back office IT support
mats: nope... that's a hobby
mats: pete_dushenski: notrly. i'm actually thinking about taking six months to a year off, my carpal tunnel has been getting worse recently so the timing may be fortuitous after all
mats: ha. i'll probably move to a shithole like Lowell (for the low rent), and read a mountain of books
pete_dushenski: mats: a sabbatical, nice ! and from personal experience, carpal tunnel is definitely a hindrance.
pete_dushenski: i have nfi how mine eventually went away. physio is the most likely explanation.
mats: its not terrible, mostly a hispanic and south-east asian almost-ghetto nao
mircea_popescu: heh. a decade or so ago it was undergoing "revival", they had all these plans to attract "artists" and gentrify the area.
mats: lotta cambodians in lowell
mats: which is appropriate, i'd say, because cambodians are like the black people of asia
mircea_popescu: used to be a few spanish a few azn some people from africa (as opposed to us blacks)
mircea_popescu: just enough to have decent bread and whatnot. but mostly white
mats: pete_dushenski: i'll talk to a physician about it.
pete_dushenski: i still go for treatment once a month for maintenance, was once a week at first
mats: the frustrating thing is that i've had carpal tunnel since 18, and it actually went away after four months in basic training/AIT
mats: but it came back in half a year after i kept working on a shite toshiba ultrabook
chetty: wear a wrist brace while you are using a computer
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pete_dushenski: i'm currently giving 'foundation training' a go. basically simplified yoga to specifically counter the effects of sitting at a computer all day (and all night).
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform upon further meditation : the sum total of neededchanges to phuctor is, make keys introduced via web go to top of pile, while keys introduced by cutter of db go to bottom of pile. this is all, really.
trinque: mircea_popescu: Nice work on the deedbot << thanks, fun project.
mircea_popescu: today. when it was decided that "well, we don't really give a shit about the debian-dominated gpg strong set"
mircea_popescu: (maybe i'm just sentimental, i used to actually like them)
mircea_popescu: yes, but the difference between "my wife/slavegirl/twu wuv/we you call it" and "this cunt i'm fucking for the time being" is the only real difference in the world.
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mircea_popescu: ancient trilema article, same idea "your country as a hotel ; or a change of perspective".
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assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 10:03:53; cazalla: unban vexual da fuck is this racism against true blue australians :\
mircea_popescu: neway, i invited that droid dude over, voice him if he shows up
☟︎ davout: gavinandresen: "wumpus: yes. An increase to the max block size must be preceded or accompanied by a limit on the UTXO set size, I think." <<< top kek
mircea_popescu: lol they seriously still going with that stupid shit ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, "fell in the latrine, can't help but flail arms now"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is this a "grassroots" "whistleblower" ? :D
davout: "we heard you didn't like limits, so we put a limit in your removal of limits so you can limit while not being limited"
mircea_popescu: "In 2010, Tiversa scammed LabMD, a cancer testing center in Atlanta, Wallace testified. Wallace said he tapped into LabMD's computers and pulled the medical records."
mircea_popescu: "We were a small company," he said. "It's not like we had millions of dollars to fight this and tons of employees." << yeah, the fetlife style. "we suck, but that's ok because we are small". herpy-derp, stick to twitter.
mircea_popescu: "LabMD wasn't the first time Tiversa's false hacks made national news," so how is it false ?
mircea_popescu: that's the entire fucking insistution of the settlement.
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mircea_popescu: with the victims, or as michael jackson's hologram would say, "ALLEGED!!1"
SamouraiWallet: Just a fan of this irc channel and some of the people here
mircea_popescu: davout would not work, if he still had any face to lose. but as it is, will necessarily work : has nothing left, therefore nothing to be lost.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform plenty. the ninja is the warrior closestly approximable by sitting on ass at computer.
mircea_popescu: you can't prove he's not a ninja, goes the broken mental process, because maybe you just didn't see iot.
mircea_popescu: this is LITERALLY how it goes, tho they're broadly unaware of it.
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 11:54:53; cazalla: toddlers are sorta like jews, call out and cry as they strike you
chetty: << seriously wonders how mp does so well getting in the head (if they have them) of various libtards
assbot: SamouraiWallet is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: when we were discussiong this in january, he had talked to economists that said it's not true...
mircea_popescu: wtf happened to those economists, have they lost their echonomy jobs because of it ?
mircea_popescu: (to the more broad general point : an authority, perceived or actual, that faces absolutely no danger in case his pronouncements turn out to be wrong, CAN NOT BE USED AS AN AUTHORITY)
assbot: Logged on 04-04-2015 02:27:30; asciilifeform: 'Sometimes it is a comfort to me to think that the aeroplane is altering the conditions of war. Perhaps when the next great war comes we may see that sight unprecedented in all history, a jingo with a bullet-hole in him.' -- orwell. but i'd ask for 'an economist starved to death'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, osama bin laden took it upon himself to deliver a dozen jingos with shards in them right @ 1, Police Plaza
chetty: mircea_popescu: That statement pretty much sinks every professor and what not in the entire us
mircea_popescu: but the idea that scientists are not authorities doesn't really need much explanation, to anyone outside of the libertard coolaid club.
mircea_popescu: all fucking science exists as maybes, that's what it is. piles of hypotheses. just like no one can ever turn an ethic should into an engineering is, just so no one can turn a scientific maybe into an auctorial do it.
chetty: more to the point, science is not authoritative. (at least most of it is only theory)
mircea_popescu: (and by no one can, i mean systematically. obviously one can, but only as an individual act. only ever as an individual act)
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 12:02:19; gabriel_laddel: IMHO, the differences between #b-a and /pol/ are many. /pol/ doesn't like it when they're censored and complains about how unfair things are. MP, and ascii both look ahead and see the need for WoTnet. MP commissions it out of pocket.
mircea_popescu: 15/the-definitive-sovereign/ which are currently financed principally through voluntary donations of the citizenry, in the shape of time, know-how, expertise etc.
mircea_popescu: but the superiority of la serenissima over the fiat pretend-sovereigns is resplendent in all parts and throughout. here for instance : at least we don't even attempt the impossible,
mircea_popescu: there's prolly going to be decades ellapsed before the immensity of just this one shift is even noticed, let alone fully discussed.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the golden age of fedualism worked EXACTLY the same : while a king indisputably expended out of his purse, and amounts that were not trivial in terms of individual households, nevertheless the entire machine worked on the wilful donations of ten thousand knights, that actually lived their life in accordance with this particular model deliberately.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, how much do you pay a man to go die in palestina or w/e.
mats: > Jellyfish is a Linux based userland gpu rootkit proof of concept project utilizing the LD_PRELOAD technique from Jynx (CPU), as well as the OpenCL API developed by Khronos group (GPU).
mircea_popescu: "Gpu can be used for fast/swift mathematical calculations like xor'ing or parsing"
mircea_popescu: what this is saying is, "Scarf up cpu data, crack it on video card, good to go"
mircea_popescu: dma is actually one of the principal reasons i agree with alf's "current computing stack must die"
mircea_popescu: because really, trying to rewrite it without dma ... might as well start over.
mats: and utterly unsecured.
mats: afaik only high-end cards have firmware signatures
mircea_popescu: if the byzantine problem had a systematic solution, we wouldn't be here.
mike_c: how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool.
mats: asciilifeform: yes, i know. just wanted to share... in terms of security features GPUs will just blindly run whatever binary you feed it, without any kind of validation.
mike_c: I guess because everyone except me is already on the damn thing.
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mats: i dunno enough about silicon to say what i'd rather have
mike_c: anyway, kudos mircea_popescu. are you going to publish a price sheet or is it case-by-case?
diametric: mircea_popescu: haha, awesome. congrats on your new business =)
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mats: that series i linked is one of the best i've read about how modern GPUs work
mats: cutting edge for the time, not anymore; for example GPUs nao have onboard MMUs to support virtual addressing ('Virtual Texturing', specifically)
mats: this kinda shit is my #1 time-waster. i find something neat and go down the rabbit hole for a week.
mats: incompetent crapware artists?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) you can install it. b) it might become common in futuree.
mircea_popescu: the sucvess of the past is no guarantee fore the failure of the future or how did that sec-mandated thing go
mircea_popescu: think about it this way : if you reverse 5, out of thousands, but not randomly picked, you can now install on what, 1% of the base ? 10% ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the true risk of stopping trains : all this long tail of shit that was supposed to be "never" catches up with you
mircea_popescu: why ? you want to steal people's bank credentials and nude pics,
mats: fun fact: there is a PostScript ASIC.
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BingoBoingo: The fish, it is very hard to kill. I keep holding it under the water, but it will not drown!
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 12:04:56; cazalla: if and when it comes time to cut throats, well i suspect i'll ace that compared to some others
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trinque: and I need to rename my deed files so they're named like that
trinque: which I'll do when next I'm hacking on it
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 15:36:17; gabriel_laddel: Apparently chimpanzees share ~99% of our DNA and dogs ~84%
mats: fun fact: Android ASLR is shit because it has a 'zygote' model for processes, which forks but does not execve
mats: i believe its an optimization
mats: addressing mircea_popescu
mats: it saves android from spinning up a dalvik VM from scratch afaik
mircea_popescu: mats admittedly i'm clueless, but how does this optimize anything
Adlai: "not directly obvious it actually does anything" << same way it's not directly obvious that the ceramic casing around your CPU does anything
mats: asciilifeform: monkey patch for sure, but it does have its place... with a dozen other mitigations.
Adlai: mats: thoughts on ART?
Adlai: not the dead kind, the android kind
mircea_popescu: Adlai not a good example, it's directly obviouswhat that does.
mircea_popescu: in any case, claiming a z80 and a pentium 6 are "99.84% identical" on the grounds of mass spectrometry is about as apt.
Adlai: not when you set out to discover which changes it effects in the ALU, and then say, "oh, eip never points at the ceramics, thus they're useless"
mircea_popescu: still not very valid a comparison, because no thiamine ever links to.. acell wall.
Adlai: a better way of saying this is that: while dna is a great example of "code is data"; most of the data not being code for gene transcription does not directly imply that it has no other use
mircea_popescu: yeah, but now you're arguing with a straw man. i never said it doesn't, i just said as far as we know, it might as well not.
mircea_popescu: and if as far as we know it might as well not, that makes 84% or w/e comparisons untenable. irrespective of what may or may not be the case.
Adlai: for example, some dna plays the role of attracting (or repelling) the transcription machinery, to influence which other dna gets transcribed
Adlai: the XX% figure just goes to show that personhood is a little beyond biology
mircea_popescu: housing roofs also play the role of attracting (or repelling) hot sexy soaking wet babes to your perch for the purpose of you getting a blowjob.
mircea_popescu: but that's because you happened to take refuge from the rain there, has little to do with the roof.
Adlai: you'll still need the roof to do its job right. can't have sudden cold trickles at inopportune moments
mircea_popescu: which shows us the problem in all its nude glory : ad hoc systems are unrepresentable.
Adlai: wasn't it richard gabriel who summarized darwin as "worse is better"?
mircea_popescu: very succint, always quick, rarely find the global solution.
mats: Adlai: as far as i can tell, its unequivocally better than dalvik
Adlai: any venture into the "mobile" world causes me to run screaming back to real computers
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Adlai: asciilifeform: well the number is written right above it
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mircea_popescu: mike_c one idea i had while falling asleep : would it be feasible to save a snapshot of wot.svg each night before update ?
mike_c: that is a cool idea. yes.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool. << i shudder at the thought of what'll happen once reddit & all gets wind of it.
mike_c: qntra's slipping today. Gavin beats a hasty retreat and new Bitcoin ISP.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda my plan : apply lessons learned in crowd repelling from mpex, mpoe-pr, bitbet practice.
mircea_popescu: yet there's bout to be some "what do you mean my 10 dollah gift certificate/reddit gold/whatever doesn't buy me anything!111"
mircea_popescu: mike_c now that's a point. yo cazalla ! BingoBoingo ! THE NEWS IS CHASING YOU!
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mike_c: That gavin thing has to be written up. I mean.. this is what he chooses to backpedal on?
mike_c: but whatever. as long as it dies.
mod6: mircea_popescu: congrats on the Bitcoin ISP!
HeySteve: the ones leading from South Africa
HeySteve: used to be semi-regular here back in my crypto journo days
HeySteve: thanks, taking an irc break while gf naps
HeySteve: assuming things are quiet here atm?
trinque: HeySteve: just depends when you're on
HeySteve: not sure if anyone noticed / cared, but gmaxwell paid a backhanded compliment to the "MPOE crowd" recently
☟︎ HeySteve: something about not being corruptible by corporate or political influence
mircea_popescu: mike_c so write it! not like you write badly or anything.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, this is a trope of contemporaneity. thoroughly broke "feminist" graduate student reduced to waiting tables for rest of life will STILL not "surrender". ie, admit the banruptcy of his own stupidity, to himself.
mike_c: I don't write badly, but I also don't write quickly.. my writing muscles are weak.
mircea_popescu: the only thing that does is, prevent him from healing.
mike_c: ;;later tell pete_dushenski would surely do the gavin retreat justice on qntra.
davout: HeySteve: yea, told me the reason he didn't came here is that he doesn't get along with mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: dude this shit, where i say something and it gets confirmed two lines down. ima go have a drink.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, i did put a `uname -a` in this latest dpaste, but its: AWS m3.medium debian6 x86_64 with 3.5Gb RAM
mod6: oh my bad, I thought it said "debian " somewhere in that dpaste. that's weak.
mircea_popescu: which incidentally - if anyone wants to sysadmin an aws-style offering on top of bisp metal, please get in touch. i'm open to the idea, we'd have to discuss how it would work.
☟︎ mod6: root@ip-M-O-D-6:/mnt/btc-dev/sandbox-20150504-orphanage-nuke/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/bitcoin/src# dmesg | head -10 | grep "Debian"
mod6: [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-48squeeze10) (holger@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Sun Dec 21 18:33:39 UTC 2014
mod6: this is the actual gcc version on the env:
mod6: gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5
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mats: not you, asciilifeform
mod6: i was apologizing for the spec dump.
mircea_popescu: mats, too frail to be a ranger, to slow to be a troll... is there no place under the sun left for him ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 nono, it's good. creates a record, we have it for 5 years later when we've foprgotten
mats: i can deliver pizzas to chix like the above
mircea_popescu: mats you know there was an entire paysite dedicated to the concept of pizza-surprise.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, yah. good deal.
mats: mircea_popescu: go on
HeySteve: cock burns via molten mozzarella probably not worth the prank
HeySteve: I recommend the surprise in the popcorn box at the movies option
mats: o hey i recognize the actor.
mats: classic stuff apparently.
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trinque: kakobrekla: it's that deeds.bitcoin-assets.com which needs to 301 over
trinque: currently it goes to that registrar instead
trinque: probably a setting in the registrar's panel
trinque: so one way of handling it would be to have nginx or whatever's hosting bitcoin-assets.com do the redirect
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kakobrekla: last time someone asked me to do a perma redirect from deeds. to deedbot.org which I did
kakobrekla: the way to handle it is to have an a record pointing to deeds servers ip
trinque: that's not going to work; deeds are on static hosting on s3
trinque: s3's doing a fine job for what I'm asking of it
trinque: why is that URL mircea_popescu wanted going to unregistry.com?
trinque: this is nothing to do with the s3 hosting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31024 @ 0.0002481 = 7.6971 BTC [+]
trinque: kakobrekla: that I'm aware of; but what box is issuing the 301 there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108843 @ 0.00024569 = 26.7416 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'll move the static deed hosting to a box with IP soon, then ask kakobrekla to cname the domain to its IP
diametric: mircea_popescu: so whats the bitcoin isps stance on bittorrent and dmca violations?
mircea_popescu: bittorrent is legitimate. dmca altogether depends. what exactly ?
diametric: mircea_popescu: movies and warez mostly. not sure your opinion on the subject.
mircea_popescu: shit. now i gotta come up with an opinion on this subject
diametric: mircea_popescu, a better question, what will you or your upstream provider do if given a dmca request to remove an ip participating in a bittorrent swarm, or a request for the customer information?
mircea_popescu: if they come here and make a good case, they'd get it. if not... nothing.
mircea_popescu: i can see the case, i tell you. quentin tarantino makes a new movie, it's on your box before release, he comes here and goes OMFGWTFBBQ what am i supposed to say ? fuck you, give us free shit ?
mircea_popescu: really, it's not intended as a thing to fuck with people from. it's intended as a thing where to be safe from people fucking with you.
jurov: something something "defense only" something doesn't really exist
jurov: but, really, congrats to bisp!
mircea_popescu: for now it'll be "no, really, you can't take wikileaks dump down. even if it does 'endanger the lives of agents'".
mircea_popescu: maybe in the future it'll be "no, really, if you made a movie it's not your movie", but i think that's more than a graph node away.
jurov: (and pls check mpex quue)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176500 @ 0.0002514 = 44.3721 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: mircea_popescu, makes sense, thanks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00025699 = 1.4905 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00024326 = 7.8573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63900 @ 0.00025721 = 16.4357 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:31:11; HeySteve: not sure if anyone noticed / cared, but gmaxwell paid a backhanded compliment to the "MPOE crowd" recently
mircea_popescu: incidentally, who would win a fight between bitcoin jesus and bitcoin godfather ?
jurov: kakobrekla: but that's their proprietary rack, no?
jurov: dell has same thing
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jurov: but that's NAS, not servers
jurov: BISP can buy one or two and resell per node to us paupers
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 17:26:03; mircea_popescu: neway, i invited that droid dude over, voice him if he shows up
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 22:45:35; *: BingoBoingo waits for 1U longsoon machines
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can only hope their AMD investment wasn't entirely about keeping AMD's silicon less backdoored or making it differently backdoored
BingoBoingo: Probably, but it may be a small step towards china saying fuck the x86-MS warez game and moving to Ubuntu warez
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Access to their logo and markets familiar with their name
cazalla: mike_c, maybe you know or not but timestamp in WoT browser don't appear to update if you previously left that person a rating.. example, a rating i left a month ago is timestamped nov 2014
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Analogue mathematical instruments
mircea_popescu: "fuck intel, we will subsidize X, because we are so big and powerful we can just crush it outright"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71068 @ 0.00024859 = 17.6668 BTC [-] {2}
Adlai: gotta put hashes on the blockchain and hellfires in windows
mircea_popescu: same reason intel's fundamentally unconcerning : all greedy algorithms are vulnerable to other greedy algorithms. that's what it means.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the only way to gain immunity to them is to not be one.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, we don't have, nor can we get just yet, the hard guarantees we'd like, and it'd altogether seem we're entitled to, by the shape of the space of logical possibility.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, soft guarantees can be extractred from the unloving tits of mother nature, and so they will be.
williamdunne: 20:09:56 - mircea_popescu: <mike_c> how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool. << i shudder at the thought of what'll happen once reddit & all gets wind of it. <<< what is this?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, is my discussion of water captive in a glass part of the 7 ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'd note that the most pestilential thing about intel is the fact of it keeping x86 alive, rather than boobytraps << To be fair they gave Itanic the old college try
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason for this is because we're not big enough yet lol. "the next builders of roads once the romans croak will still not be the huns". well.... yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53682 @ 0.00024882 = 13.3572 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the itanic thing was perhaps the breaking point for FOSS, in retrospect.
mircea_popescu: (and it didn't really work well enough - which was perhaps correctly blamed on the proc)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody asks intel. the idea was, if FOSS actually can deliver on the promises it makes, then it takes over at that juncture.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00025407 = 11.9413 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no, computing. "the only way to run a computer today is with an intel itanium running debian"
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:47:04; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! any idea what the likely scenario behind that photo is ?
cazalla: reverse image search for that on google throws back "dubai porta potties"
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mircea_popescu: cazalla that's photochopped. i can tell by some pixels.