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mircea_popescu: ah that
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#881389
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2014 00:01:40; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#881389
kakobrekla: hm
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wait wut ?!
kakobrekla: ah i failed
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2014#881394
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2014 00:02:52; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-10-2014#881394
kakobrekla: ok
Adlai loves it
assbot: Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1STS0BN.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 9 ✂︎
kakobrekla: was hoping to get the first line of the log for the day and messed up the first try. ah well.
BingoBoingo: Well just set up tomorrow's log to have 1st poast
kakobrekla: maybe this one http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2014#884000 ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 01-01-1970 00:00:00; :
kakobrekla: assbot cant grasp future lol.
kakobrekla: stupid bot.
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/20DMCQK.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 4 ✂︎
BingoBoingo: !future
BingoBoingo: !t h future
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25488 @ 0.00073878 = 18.83 BTC [+]
diametric: asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/16/this-debunked-kickstarter-project-may-be-the-biggest-crowdfounding-fail-to-date/
assbot: This debunked Kickstarter project may be the biggest crowdfunding fail to date - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: Load Averages: 3.71 14.67 16.87 << you'll have to do better than that babe!
diametric: I'm actually surprised kickstarter cancelled this one.
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/10/a-free-bitcoin-atm-machine-for-suitable-hosts/ maybe mircea_popescu can get one for his bedroom if foot traffic meets criteria?
mircea_popescu: dude what the shit, 0.27 load what is this bullcrap
mircea_popescu: cazalla you know what'd happen if women had no feet ?
cazalla: cry because they have no shoes (googled that one)
mircea_popescu: cazalla no, they'd leave trails like slugs.
bounce: "automatic teller machine machine"
bounce: http://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2014/10/btc/
assbot: Free Banking on a Bitcoin Standard–The State Prepares its Death Blow | PHILOSOPHICAL ECONOMICS
mircea_popescu: orly.
cazalla: bounce, sorta like RIP in Peace eh?
mircea_popescu: "That line right there, if accepted into regulation, would be enough to conclusively destroy any hope of a Bitcoin monetary takeover. It effectively sets a 100% reserve requirement for Bitcoin banks, making it imposible for the supply of Bitcoin to expand in the ways that would be necessary for the cryptocurrency to displace conventional money."
mircea_popescu: imbecile be imbecile.
bounce: just for your FYI
mircea_popescu: Leave a Reply You must be logged in to post a comment. << obviously.
mircea_popescu: a well.
mircea_popescu: !up copumpkin
copumpkin: allo
copumpkin is on a bus
copumpkin: (so if my connection drops, that's probably why)
mircea_popescu: how goes ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what's dig qntra.net say to you ?
thestringpuller: might be dns
thestringpuller: yea checking now mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://browsershots.org/http://qntra.net/ << i just did this
assbot: Website Overview for http://qntra.net/
mircea_popescu: it's up.
RagnarDanneskjol: dem lawgs still down
thestringpuller: http://dpaste.com/3P3NYHZ
assbot: dpaste: 3P3NYHZ: trilema dig
kakobrekla: lawgs not coming back
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yup.
RagnarDanneskjol: kakobrekla please clarify
thestringpuller: is that right?
decimation: re: kennedy "committed" < but all he really did was quite unknowingly empower von braun, whose scheme it was in the first place
thestringpuller: ^ mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: decimation so ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes it is o.o
decimation: well, hitler also empowered von braunn, but also was 'committed' to a retarded strategy
mircea_popescu: decimation exactly!
thestringpuller: i can't traceroute to them either :(
kakobrekla: RagnarDanneskjol kig does not need 100% uptime, so it will back when its back
kakobrekla: kig = log
decimation: but neither hitler not kennedy really knew shit about von braun or rocketry.
RagnarDanneskjol: oh my. hmm
decimation: for instance, bush jr, 'committed' to putting a man on mars, which is obviously retarded for many reasons, not the least of which being that no one is in charge of nasa, and certainly not von braun
RagnarDanneskjol: is there a log arxiv available elsewhere?
thestringpuller: ~_~
thestringpuller: do we need mirrors already
kakobrekla: idk
kakobrekla: id publish archive on files.bitcoin-assets.com
kakobrekla: but its down :)
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: DDOS?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has to be vulnerable to something, right ? << hate to disappoint, but 99% of the chumps are accounted for by perfectly lame trojans.
TheNewDeal: ;;seen bugpowder
gribble: bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 2 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Draper
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no exploitation to speak of.
BingoBoingo: https://gist.github.com/dchest/1091803
assbot: UNIX V5, OpenBSD, Plan 9, FreeBSD, and GNU coreutils implementations of echo.c
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for one thing, 99% of that 99% is the same damned three trojans
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mostly 'zeus' & variants.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: virtually the whole of the turdware world has, for some years, been accounted for by cargocult l4m3rs who 'license' a turd (why? because, even building a ready tarball found wherever - is far beyond their intellectual level)
mircea_popescu: no dude, licensing is moar businesslike!
mircea_popescu: they be ceos.
asciilifeform: so yes, same 3, and some imbecile paid for his command box addr to be hardcoded in
mircea_popescu: decimation bush jr commited to nothing.
decimation: he said some words, which is more or less what kennedy did
mircea_popescu: decimation in no sense "saying some words" is what anyone did.
mircea_popescu: so anyway, the ddos of qntra is dead. here are the captions : 12`754`766 requests from 5397 unique wordpress installations.
asciilifeform: # not from wp ?
kakobrekla: well not dead, moved.
mircea_popescu: a coupla mil.
mircea_popescu: but my point is, this comes to ~100 hits an hour from each of these idiots. just slightly under, which means the 100 was the prospective rate set by the attacker,
mircea_popescu: not their upper bound bandwidth.
asciilifeform: many turdmeisters throttle the chump engines
asciilifeform: lengthens turd life
mircea_popescu: now, at a conservative 50kb per page, each of these installations comes to ~11kbps sustained over a day.
asciilifeform: (lamer with 'me box is sl000w' tends to end up reformatting, rewinblowsing)
mircea_popescu: WordPress: Now Powering 50 Million Blogs - The Next Web
mircea_popescu: let's do the math shall we.
decimation: asciilifeform: if all these boxes are exploited with the same malwarez, does that mean that the malwarez exploit the same unpatched holes?
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 50000000 * 11000
gribble: 550000000000
danielpbarron: !isdown http://logs.bitcoin-assets.com/
asciilifeform: decimation: see 5 min ago
asciilifeform: decimation: almost all turdware is plain trojan. only exploit is between the chumper's ears.
decimation: ah I see what you mean
mircea_popescu: o look at that! Mullenweg & automattic are responsible for a maximal 550 gbps, sustained indefinitely.
asciilifeform: precious and rare, the 'drive by'
decimation: as in 'click the .exe' or whatever variant
asciilifeform: (actual exploit, generally from vulnerable browser and a habit of reading spam)
decimation: or vulnerable office docs
mircea_popescu: ^
decimation: like that rsa keyfob scam
mircea_popescu: i think that's the majority, ppl running office-etc
asciilifeform: office is a bottomless mine of 0day
decimation: actually that was flash exploited via excel http://gcn.com/articles/2011/04/04/rsa-hack-securid-adobe-flash.aspx
asciilifeform: turdware is an interestingly btc-related 'scientific' field, because one hundred percent of folks with brains who have any truck with turdware (production end, that is) occupy themselves with somehow mapping their activity to btc income.
asciilifeform: (with brains - by definition. ones who operate in fiat - are diagnosably retarded here from our chairs)
asciilifeform: said mapping is nontrivial, and isn't getting any easier.
decimation: for instance 'cryptolocker'
asciilifeform: (mining difficulty etc)
mircea_popescu: so now the moral dilemma of all time : should i use my list of wordpress installs to blow wordpress.com off the internets or shouldn't i.
asciilifeform: cryptolocker << one (mostly spent) shot, yes
decimation: cryptolocker's approach is to force the victim to do the conversion of fiat to btc, like a mule
mircea_popescu: then take out one by one all the "press venues" that failed to report on my article, while at it.
asciilifeform: decimation: or to fetch backups (we all have them, no..?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 5k bots is rather threadbare for this purpose
asciilifeform: (otherwise entirely admirable)
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse things. the chump's list is 5k
asciilifeform: ahaha
asciilifeform: well then.
mircea_popescu: my list is about 7.5 mn
asciilifeform: though i imagine they're already rather occupied.
mircea_popescu: i've been spidering the net since early oct
mircea_popescu: honestly... doubt it very much.
decimation: it's pretty likely that someone 'behind' the victim press sites have something to do with the ddos
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, meat without flies ?
mircea_popescu: dude do you know how much meat is out there ?
asciilifeform: many more flies.
mircea_popescu: planet of meat. what flies ? in outer space ?
asciilifeform: ehe. i've a honeypot coughing up log to a scrolling term at all hours, reliably farts wp probing
decimation: asciilifeform: w.r.t. the 'putty' controller above, I thought 'modern' malware used generated dns records to 'phone home'
asciilifeform: decimation: this was the most illiterate possible turd, consisting of entirely unmodified 'putty' with a batch script giving it command line args to create 'ssh tunnel.'
decimation: that's lulzy
decimation: the truely elite hax0r figures out how to pirate an existing botnet
mircea_popescu: o it thought the truely elite haxxor works for the nsa
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: How do you thing NSA/FBI does their DDOs? They pirate legit ru/cn/Ohio botnets
decimation: "with paper money he could buy a lot of the deeds needed to back up the words. With paper money he could persuade the Sirian foe to kick himself good and hard in the pants and save the Terrans a tedious chore"
cazalla: logs down or under attack now as well?
kakobrekla: both i guess
TheNewDeal: I've been using them pretty much the last 12 hours with no issues. Must have just started
kakobrekla: up (for now)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00074019 = 7.661 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: decimation: existing botnet << often quite trivial. but then what to do with it.
asciilifeform: the basic fact is, unless you have the infrastructure for reprocessing hot fiat into purified chumpatronium, botnet is not of particularly much use today.
asciilifeform: (what fiat? mostly shenanigans revolving around the us/natoblok idiot credit card system)
asciilifeform: the people who have the silent crown blessing to carry on with this - know who they are.
asciilifeform: the rest - prey animals for the 'tough on cyb3rsc4mz0rs!!!111!! arm of usg.
decimation: asciilifeform: what I find amusing is that obama was complaining about credit card fraud while he (or at least, the people over which he nominally presides) are chiefly responsible
decimation: one imagines King Louis joining the paris mobs
asciilifeform: botnet << see logs from other day for rough calculation of how even half a million bots would scarcely suffice to live on
asciilifeform: assuming no wish to forfeit your arse by dealing in fiat with known fiatmiscreants
asciilifeform: ('live on' means, roughly, six fig. usd minimum., equiv. - folks who can live on tree bark, don't need to descend to writing turdware, tree bark is normally free for the taking)
decimation: seems like a risky proposition if one lives within reach of usg
asciilifeform: which?
decimation: trying to live off six figures of botnet-bezzled fiat
mike_c: i don't understand. what's the fun of all the ddos if you're not going to come in here and taunt?
asciilifeform: living on even a penny of stolen fiat is 'risky proposition' if not a favoured son
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm enjoying 'the wasp'
asciilifeform: neato
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00073805 = 7.565 BTC [-]
mod6: $vwap s.mpoe
empyex: mod6: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00073936 high: 0.00074241 low: 0.0007342 volume: 845832 btc: 625.37433682 7 day: average: 0.00073809 high: 0.00074368 low: 0.00073316 volume: 8213009 btc: 6061.91560232 30 day: average: 0.00074413 high: 0.00075684 low: 0.00073316 volume: 24117723 btc: 17946.7632577
mod6: %ob
atcbot: 7k@266 99k@255 29k@225 | 28k@190 70k@180 100k@175
thestringpuller: is trilema down for anyone else?
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327338.31 in 60 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.57
BingoBoingo: !s down
assbot: 4366 results for 'down' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=down
cazalla: thestringpuller, works here
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34032 @ 0.00073773 = 25.1064 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6266 @ 0.00073712 = 4.6188 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: i'm going to retry with tor
cazalla: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/523308238700175360 lol andreas
assbot: /sovryntech and /S_Murphy_PhD helped bitcoin trader market their pump, scammers along with /aantonop, seems like all you lot at LTB are init
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the basic fact is, unless you have the infrastructure for reprocessing hot fiat into purified chumpatronium, botnet is not of particularly much use today. << that's the beauty of nature tho! instead of making it secure, they decided to "stop criminality" by making criminal-cash worthless. inasmuch as they've rpetty much succeeded... they also made their own cash worthless.
thestringpuller: yea I can get through to trilema and qntra with tor
mircea_popescu: because as usual, bad money drives out the good
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i don't understand. what's the fun of all the ddos if you're not going to come in here and taunt? << i was doing the taunting. saturated mkt.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller pm me your ip ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you had been ipbanned. i fixt it now. check tor too, if it works now then well... it's not all that tor-y
thestringpuller: thanks
decimation: even obama complains about how 'his' 'cash' isn't worthy
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 379.28, Best ask: 379.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 379.27, 24 hour volume: 9506.96031850, 24 hour low: 370.96, 24 hour high: 386.0, 24 hour vwap: 379.451409648
thestringpuller: https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity << where did this wiki come from ~_~
assbot: How to issue a cryptosecurity - O.info
danielpbarron: cazalla, Mark Edge was also in the ad; he's one of the freetalklive guys I've been tweeting at / seems to be the one managing @FreeTalkLive http://twitter.com/FreeTalkLive
assbot: FreeTalkLive (@FreeTalkLive) | Twitter
cazalla: danielpbarron, i'll add it
cazalla: i don't know how they could create an advertisement like that without at all being suspicious
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/FreeTalkLive/status/523320788557238272
assbot: Oh, man. This is too sweet. http://t.co/2oMG2KYkPs /FreeTalkLive /sovryntech /S_Murphy_PhD /qntra /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets
cazalla: they don't get it, i'm not claiming they ran the ponzi but assisted it and like andreas, they don't accept their foolish behaviour so it will happen again
danielpbarron: in one of their recent radio broadcasts, they practically told listeners to buy bitcoin from one of their advertisers in order to pay for drugs on the silkroad
danielpbarron: https://www.expresscoin.com/
assbot: Buy Bitcoins! Fast, Easy, and Safe - expresscoin
mircea_popescu: so basically what, "commercial immunity" ? we can make any add for satan himself, as long as we're getting paid ?
BingoBoingo: Safer to make ads for satan. Recognizable brand. Customers know what they get when the Buy Satan.
mircea_popescu: lol that's a point
BingoBoingo: With the caveat that you only advertise for Satan under his own brand.
BingoBoingo: Using the ponzi label when advertising a Ponzi anytime after the historical ponzi's bust... fine. Advertizing ponzi under any other brand like Pirateat40, not fine.
decimation: " For example, in America, observed de Tocqueville, a book that does not make money – because it does not sell well – cannot be good, because the test of all goodness is money. And anything that makes a profit must be admirable in every way. I"
BingoBoingo: !up Maryjane
BingoBoingo: Hello Maryjane
Maryjane: Hi
Maryjane: :)
xanthyos: hi
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
Maryjane: Xan
Maryjane: :)
xanthyos: Maryjane is a bee expert
Maryjane: Hehehe
Maryjane: Yeah winter is boring
mircea_popescu: o, srsly, you raise bees ?
kakobrekla: 10000 elements in 60 seconds (166.67 elements/s)
kakobrekla: wait no
kakobrekla: 10000 elements in 21 seconds (476.19 elements/s)
kakobrekla: :D
kakobrekla: 833 e/s
kakobrekla: not too shabby eh
kakobrekla: 1k now
decimation: asciilifeform: amusing story. the moral: once a wasp - always a wasp until death or total victory
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: It's wintering season atm though
decimation: apiculture is an ancient and honorable profession
Maryjane: It's creation
Maryjane: :)
decimation: Maryjane: do you live in the usa?
Maryjane: Yes
decimation: what do you make of the panic with respect to the africanized bees coming from the south?
Maryjane: It's over panicked
decimation: seems to me that the main danger is letting neglected properties become fully infested
Maryjane: Italians and carni's are what we raise here usually, but bees even African iced are highly adapted creatures. The African iced ones are forced into a place they don't thrive. It's like how the Russian bees don't do well here either
Maryjane: Afrocanized*
Maryjane: Pollen flow is very different
decimation: I suspect the best 'solution' is to interbreed the africanized bees with other species and select against aggressive broods.
xanthyos: and make the perfect broodwich
Maryjane: Yes. They could. But that could go either good or bad
decimation: how could it go bad?
Maryjane: Because any breed can Africanize even italians or carnolians
Maryjane: Or Caucasians
xanthyos: sicilians are africanized italians
decimation: interesting. apparently the bees are are aware of the 'one drop' rule
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: They'll adapt by themselves
Maryjane: They have since before our years
Maryjane: I've worked with aggressive carnolians
Maryjane: They made a new queen and she calmed the whole colony
decimation: heh. interesting.
xanthyos: !up Maryjane
Maryjane: I like russian bees.
decimation: apparently carniolan bees are from romania
decimation: how are russian bees different?
Maryjane: Their propolis production
decimation: do you have problems with mites?
Maryjane: Carnolians are great they originated in like the southern Austrian alps and Danube valley
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: Mites are always here
Maryjane: Varroa
Maryjane: We treat with powdered sugar to help that issue
decimation: do the russian bees seem more resistant to the mites? It appears the gov't thinks that's the case.
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: Their immune system is stronger against varroa than carnolians
Maryjane: Italians are ok
xanthyos: agreed!
Maryjane: They aren't too bothered by varroa
decimation: the russian sage in front of my home was filled with bees this summer, they are gone now
Maryjane: We had epic basswood honey this yr
xanthyos: r
Maryjane: It was soo white
Maryjane: The comb. Unf.
decimation: have you seen colony collapse disorder?
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: The queen starts laying drones
Maryjane: She gets weak
xanthyos: do you think it's related at all to cell phone tower radiation?
Maryjane: Could very well be
Maryjane: It's also gmos
decimation: eh, I think that theory is crazy. much more likely is widespread pesticide us
decimation: use
decimation: cell phone radiation just doesn't affect things that much
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla elements ?
Maryjane: Any man made pesticide will weaken their immune system but plant based is ok
Maryjane: Bees actually use plants as pesticides
decimation: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/05/09/pesticides-not-mites-cause-honeybee-colony-collapse/
assbot: Pesticides, Not Mites, Cause Honeybee Colony Collapse - D-brief | DiscoverMagazine.com
Maryjane: There's varying reason
cazalla: i wanted to get into bees this spring but council regs won't permit it :\
mircea_popescu: <decimation> apparently carniolan bees are from romania ?<< yeah.
Maryjane: I treat
Maryjane: 7000 lbs this yr but I worked commercially
mircea_popescu: cazalla you need a permit to keep bees ?!
Maryjane: We lost some due to wax moth damage
decimation: Maryjane: do you move your hives long distances to pollinate?
Maryjane: Yes
cazalla: mircea_popescu, you need to register for a licence, another keep has to come check out your hive, hive cannot be within x distance of other homes plus others
Maryjane: Well my boss did
Maryjane: I personally just want my hives here
mircea_popescu: nuts.
Maryjane: My boss has bees in ga and California and vermont
decimation: cazalla: the People continue to wage war on anything unusual
mircea_popescu: back in romania, pretty much any old guy that's not a fucktard keeps bees
Maryjane: That's a part of beekeeping
cazalla: i could host the hive elsewhere but defeats the added benefit of having the bees in the backyard to help pollinate veg and fruit trees
mircea_popescu: in the countryside i mean.
decimation: Maryjane: in California for the almonds?
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: :)
Maryjane: Almond Honey tastes like leather shoes
Maryjane: Ew
Maryjane: Lol
decimation: yeah but almonds are delicious, I'm glad for the bees.
Maryjane: Same
Maryjane: Almond expenses go to ppl like me too
Maryjane: So buy them lol
Maryjane: Bees are extremely expensive both money and time wise
decimation: mircea_popescu: I suspect that any farmer who actually plans on living on his own harvest is much the same
decimation: the bees are worth their wage when they pollinate more efficiently than the alternatives
Maryjane: Most hobbyists I know here cannot keep up with keeping the bees tho
xanthyos: that would be a fun job; transporting colonies
Maryjane: It is
Maryjane: Especially down the Champlain valley
xanthyos: and watching them interact with a stranger colony
Maryjane: Mmf
xanthyos: like first contact
decimation: Maryjane: what are the main expenses? seems to me you just need to harvest the honey every once in awhile
Maryjane: 7 days a week
decimation: for a small hive?
Maryjane: U have to move brood and honey for expansion, clean out drone caps, treat and feed.
Maryjane: U could lose a queen any day
Maryjane: Should have more than 1 hive
decimation: if the colony swarms?
Maryjane: Yes
Maryjane: Which u can save that colony from moving brood frames.
Maryjane: From ur other colonies
Maryjane: They'll draw s new queen
decimation: so they swap places basically?
Maryjane: Yes
decimation: yeah I can see how this would pose some difficulties keeping track of what is going on
decimation: !up Maryjane
decimation: well I'm going to retire for the evening, thanks for the interesting conversation
Maryjane: Same I'm sleepy :F
Maryjane: Goodnight :)
decimation: goodnight.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu requests per second
kakobrekla: tcpdump port 80 | logtop
RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.scmagazine.com/ssdp-reflection-ddos-attacks-on-the-rise-akamai-warns/article/377754/
assbot: SSDP reflection DDoS attacks on the rise, Akamai warns - SC Magazine
RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.ijerest.in/papers/IJEREST-1103112014.pdf
RagnarDanneskjol: [A Survey on Distributed Denial of Service Attacks, Tools, and Countermeasures]
RagnarDanneskjol: [http://www.ijedr.org/papers/IJEDR1403077.pdf
RagnarDanneskjol: [Intrusion Detection Techniques and Open Source Intrusion Detection (IDS) Tools]
RagnarDanneskjol: [http://dangerousprototypes.com/2014/10/14/dirty-tuesday-chinese-shipping-apocalypse/
mircea_popescu: <Maryjane> Should have more than 1 hive << generally about 60 to a hundred or two is what people keep
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they decided to "stop criminality" << not exactly. one set of criminals profits from every single penny of cc theft (bank) while another set (the sp4mz0r) gets to be made example of.
asciilifeform: princeling - sins, whipping boy - grunts.
mircea_popescu: notrly.
asciilifeform: !s chargeback
assbot: 40 results for 'chargeback' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chargeback
mircea_popescu: i don't think a princeling exists sharp enough to do any of this.,
asciilifeform: mr t called this 'skin in the game lemma' or sumthinglikethat
mircea_popescu: nah, it mostly feeds non-nato powers.
asciilifeform: chargebacks.
mircea_popescu: well, exactly how the loss is distributed inside the system is a diff story.
mircea_popescu: fact remains, cc nonsense mostly bleeds cash out of the nato structure.
asciilifeform: ru sp4mz0r steals cc #, charges 10k usd. on, e.g., 'amazon'; chumper reads his bill, complains, bank magically vacuums 10k+C (positive constant C, chargeback penalty) from 'amazon', plasma tv is nowhere to be found (drop house, magicked away)
mircea_popescu: exactly.
asciilifeform: this is permitted to exist in precisely this form - for a reason. this is bezzlatron's way of making folks who don't want $consumercrud - buy it whether want or not.
asciilifeform: 'so you won't buy plasmatron for yourself, voluntarily, ok. you'll buy it for this derp.'
asciilifeform: at 40% interest.
mircea_popescu: sure, but that
asciilifeform: then go 'prove you're not a camel'
mircea_popescu: 's besides the point
mircea_popescu: !up Maryjane
Maryjane: hi :)
asciilifeform: orcs pilfering the wealth of men is a thermodynamic inevitability - like waterfalls. but there's a clever bugger drinking the waterfall, to run with the metaphor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all i can see from where im sitting is a closed system that constantly loses mass to the outside.
mircea_popescu: its fate is quite clear, thermodynamically.
mircea_popescu: it's not even "cash" properly that the enemy keeps taking out. it's straight value.
Maryjane: Where are you people from? c:
RagnarDanneskjol: i'm in laguna niguel
RagnarDanneskjol: juicy - http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/
RagnarDanneskjol: http://mashable.com/2014/10/17/ebola-dog-okay/
assbot: Ebola Pup Receiving Care From Top Veterinary Team
punkman: http://news.sciencemag.org/environment/2014/06/ninety-nine-percent-oceans-plastic-missing
assbot: Ninety-nine percent of the ocean's plastic is missing | Science/AAAS | News
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dogecoin-facebook-contributor-to-jail/
punkman: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/keygen
assbot: <keygen> - HTML (HyperText Markup Language) | MDN
punkman: curious that this has been supported since v1.0 of FF, never seen it
punkman: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/you-see-sneakers-these-guys-see-hundreds-of-millions-in-resale-profit/
assbot: You See Sneakers, These Guys See Hundreds Of Millions In Resale Profit | FiveThirtyEight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22792 @ 0.00074108 = 16.8907 BTC [+] {2}
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;is up http://qntra.net/
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;isup http://qntra.net/
cazalla: no wai
cazalla: Error establishing a database connection here RagnarDanneskjol
RagnarDanneskjol: i saw
cazalla: when i refresh, sometimes it's up, sometimes not
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;isup qntra.net
RagnarDanneskjol: aah no gribbl
cazalla: logs flooded with requests for urls like http://qntra.net/index.php?-1121311141
RagnarDanneskjol: bastards
RagnarDanneskjol: !up ProgressUpdate
ProgressUpdate: hey, reddit police here. gj with the new server for trilema / qntra
RagnarDanneskjol: uh ok
ProgressUpdate: you might like to know the wp attacks are launched from a VPS costing me no more than $10 monthly; such attacks are unable to fully take your server offline, but that doesn't mean we will stop trying ^.^
cazalla: you are quite determined eh ProgressUpdate
RagnarDanneskjol: whats the payoff?
cazalla: why are you attacking the site anyway?
ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, i'd tell you if i can.
RagnarDanneskjol: why cant you?
ProgressUpdate: for now, it's not very smart for me to "GET MOAR BOTZ" against a specific, protected server, but there are many other targets. like the digitalocean vps hosting log.bitcoin-assets
cazalla: what's the point though? i don't see what you stand to gain
cazalla: i mean, i applaud your effort for the lulz but we're past that so what's your beef chief
ProgressUpdate: or BingoBoingo's thedrinkingrecord, or cascadianhacker, contravex;; bitbet, waroflife, et al.
ProgressUpdate: it's not even difficult to knock down *all* of the mpex proxies (at least the ones that have been publicly announced), but barely nobody except mireca_popescu's own bots use mpex anyway.
ProgressUpdate: cazalla, obviously people dont do this for weeks without a reason
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - really curious. why these targets? these guy sare good people, never did a thing to hurt anyone.. its like attacking puppies or slow lorises. they come in peace
RagnarDanneskjol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-xvIjH8T4
assbot: Slow Loris eating a Rice Ball - YouTube
ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, quite ironically slowloris was one of the most effective HTTP DDoS attacks circa 2009.
RagnarDanneskjol: i kno that
cazalla: someone here fuck your mother/sister or something?
punkman: something about saying bad things about reddit?
cazalla: ProgressUpdate, i tell you what, you write up an article about the past few days and i'll publish it on qntra, that way people at least know what is going on
ProgressUpdate: closing notes: mireca_popescu: mocking someone who attacks you for less than 1/20th your mitigation efforts cost is not the smartest decision. cazalla i'll think about it
RagnarDanneskjol: are there any terms for surrender. ransom demands
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7139 @ 0.00073623 = 5.2559 BTC [-] {2}
ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, lolno
RagnarDanneskjol: cool. well carry on then, have fun
ProgressUpdate: so, current target is thedrinkingrecord.com ;; don't worry, no matter how you try to mitigate we'll take you down eventually.
RagnarDanneskjol: who else is on y'alls shit list these days?
ProgressUpdate: we got cloudflare to kick off a enterprise customer ^.^
ProgressUpdate: kthnxbai
punkman: well the blogs are gonna be easy pickings
RagnarDanneskjol: guess so huh
punkman: so what does the random guy caught in crossfire do
RagnarDanneskjol: duck for cover
RagnarDanneskjol: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/523318082584858624
assbot: (I'm not actually Slayl0r on freenode. Sorry I didn't think anyone would actually check.)
jurov: how is the chick related?
jurov: !s Slayl0r
assbot: 0 results for 'Slayl0r' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Slayl0r
RagnarDanneskjol: not at all -just an amusing twitter page . http://mashable.com/2014/10/17/taylor-swift-1989-secret-sessions/
assbot: What It's Like to Hang Out in Taylor Swift's Living Room [VIDEO]
RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2233203-the-go-to-play-taking-college-football-by-storm
assbot: The Most Unstoppable Play in College Football | Bleacher Report
gabriel_laddel: just in time for l33t wekend!
RagnarDanneskjol: was that?
RagnarDanneskjol: http://hackaday.com/2014/10/17/hacklet-19-ham-radio/
assbot: Hacklet 19 – Ham Radio
ThickAsThieves: bitbet down
RagnarDanneskjol: seems to be infectious. like obola
ThickAsThieves: while it may be cheap for this guy to do, it's gotta be consuming of other resources
ThickAsThieves: time, opportunity loss, whatever
ThickAsThieves: who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?
ThickAsThieves: the yc ninjas?
ThickAsThieves: gavin?
RagnarDanneskjol: redtards mostly i sppose. this is what happens when they impose minimum wage - too much idle time
ThickAsThieves: he doesnt even troll reddit tho
Apocalyptic: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 328678.18 in 42 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.50
ThickAsThieves: 42 blocks, then hacker points botnet at pool and diff stays same, hehe
Apocalyptic: fortunately not :)
RagnarDanneskjol: OH - I control that pool - heh. kind of forgot to check it, maybe on the target list too
RagnarDanneskjol: ok pool looks fine
ThickAsThieves: i guess we shouldnt be giving him any ideas, though the attack does seem mp-centric
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - why I'm not posting the address again
chetty: <ThickAsThieves> who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?//more like who didnt he piss off
ThickAsThieves: i suppose, hehe
RagnarDanneskjol: i remember a time when being provocative didn't cause ppl to get all butthurt.. wasnt that long ago. I'm not that old
chetty: yeah well no more provocative, now its offensive and you know we all have rights not to be offended
RagnarDanneskjol: yea really
RagnarDanneskjol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67k9eEw9AY
assbot: George Carlin on Soft Language - YouTube
chetty: nobody ever heard of ignore stuff you don't like, must fight back
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.78, Best ask: 392.97, Bid-ask spread: 1.19000, Last trade: 389.8, 24 hour volume: 8926.01397094, 24 hour low: 370.96, 24 hour high: 393.01, 24 hour vwap: 381.024286351
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00073761 = 5.0895 BTC [+]
PeterL: so I converted that WASP pdf into a txt file http://btcscoop.com/WASP.txt ☟︎
PeterL: funny mistake by the pdf converter, l to an i: We've got to seize the initiative and get the
PeterL: enemy fiat on his back while we beat the bejazus out of him.
PeterL: it also made hard linebreaks out of all the line endings, is there an easy way to re-paragraphize a text file?
RagnarDanneskjol: what is this? -i missed the convo. looks scifi skimming it
RagnarDanneskjol: oh
RagnarDanneskjol: got it
RagnarDanneskjol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp_(novel)
assbot: Wasp (novel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PeterL: yeah, that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19108 @ 0.00073793 = 14.1004 BTC [+] {2}
RagnarDanneskjol: [PDF] http://www.researchgate.net/publication/240236789_A_new_theoretical_perspective_on_deception_detection_On_the_psychology_of_instrumental_mind-reading/links/00b4952e0bf2e2981f000000
mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
mircea_popescu: orly ?!
Apocalyptic: mircea, and so is trilema
mircea_popescu: except not.
mircea_popescu: i think the updown thing managed to get itself ip banned
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic pm me your ip too
RagnarDanneskjol: http://pastebin.com/D4j4Qv5S
RagnarDanneskjol: confirmed - atc pool is down now
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 328680.54 in 40 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.50
mircea_popescu: onoes!!1
Apocalyptic: so close
mircea_popescu: what if it never makes it, you know ?
mircea_popescu: be like... oooooooooo
kakobrekla: sup
mircea_popescu: so basically now we have a spammer trying to claim this is all trolls everywhere else while pming everyone every week PLUS a script kiddie trying to claim we suck while pming everyone every week.
mircea_popescu: there's also a camwhore from india that comes by periodically, but at least she has tits
mircea_popescu: clearly, we're doing things wrong.
RagnarDanneskjol: lol
mircea_popescu: i guess, let's see, what else is there...
mircea_popescu: next we'll have a patent troll right ? that's the one thing missing.
mircea_popescu: maybe some concern trolling, tho that's kinda weaksauce-y
PeterL: you want them to not come around, or just not be able to get in when they get here?
mircea_popescu: no no, i'm fine as is
mircea_popescu: was in no sense a complaint.
PeterL: do you think the voicing model is succeeding at keeping cruft out?
mircea_popescu: i think it's definitely succeeding at making it clear to the wanna-bes that they're wanna-bes, and that we're the stars, and what cocks to suck
Namworld: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/fashion/how-apples-siri-became-one-autistic-boys-bff.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
Namworld: TL;DR Siri helps autistic buy to learn to speak correctly by talking with him and providing data about his obsessions.
mircea_popescu: the wringing and derpage is unavoidable, but they'll get in line alright.
Namworld: autistic boy*
nubbins`: maybe it's that guy who lost 10btc at bitbet ;p
mircea_popescu: yeah, because if that guy could like, do things, he'd have waited for a year.
mircea_popescu: what, he flipped burgers for the summer to save enough money to put a 10 bux downpayment on a derpy 5k botnet ?
Namworld: I'd consider myself a wanna-be myself more than anything else...
Adlai: the worst are the wanna-wannas, who don't even know what they wanna-be
mircea_popescu: well, at a certain age it's just the usual stuff. access to resources, respect of peers, etc.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic try now.
mircea_popescu: and anyone know the ip of that isitdown service ?
Adlai: http://isup.me
assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
Adlai: http://isup.me/qntra.net
assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
mircea_popescu: yeah but what's its ip
Adlai: oh
mircea_popescu: clearly it managed to get itself banned
Adlai: looks like
mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
mircea_popescu: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
mircea_popescu: thanks Adlai
kakobrekla: i think im banned again by both
Adlai: np
Apocalyptic: mircea, ty
kakobrekla: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is down
mircea_popescu: anyone else ?
punkman: bitbet kinda slow, saw a couple 502 errors
punkman: everything else seems ok
kakobrekla: yes bb is being nuked
kakobrekla: top - 16:27:39 up 315 days, 12:11, 1 user, load average: 76.39, 72.95, 49.48
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla unbanned nao.
kakobrekla: ty
ThickAsThieves: what about banned humans not in this chan?
ThickAsThieves: they have to wait for storm to finish?
mircea_popescu: well, let's put it this way, if someone was making a shitton of requests right then but isn't in chan there's something seriously off with them.
mircea_popescu: time to get in the chan.
ThickAsThieves: i didnt make shitton
ThickAsThieves: i cant see qntra
mircea_popescu: can you see trilema ?
ThickAsThieves: hanging...
ThickAsThieves: nope
mircea_popescu: myeah. well you can either pm your ip to whitelist or else get a diff one ?
bounce: so how many makes a shitton of requests?
ThickAsThieves: sure, i wa smore asking in the grand scheme
ThickAsThieves: qntra will be IP whitelist only?
mircea_popescu: bounce ima prolly revise the list, make it moar permissive.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the entire world is whitelist only, in each and every aspect. there's no getting around this simple fact,
ThickAsThieves: ...
ThickAsThieves: it's ok you can answer me
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no dude, it's open.
ThickAsThieves: i dont actually have a problem with a site being whitelist only, but that has its own problems
chetty: I can see trilema from one system but not the other, same ip
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves theory aside, you gonna halp RagnarDanneskjol host the atc proxy by getting him a server ?
bounce: referrer filtering? o_O?
ThickAsThieves: first i've heard
mircea_popescu: chetty now that's bizarre
mircea_popescu: bounce neah.
ThickAsThieves: atc proxy?
chetty: and no I havent been making a lot of requests :P
mircea_popescu: pool i mean sorry
ThickAsThieves: well i could help fund it if that's what you mean
ThickAsThieves: but i have no servers
mircea_popescu: weren't you like an ubersuccessful trader last we left you ?
ThickAsThieves: nor confidence to provide them
mircea_popescu: get the man a server.
ThickAsThieves: what's it cost?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi ?
ThickAsThieves: well he can ask me for help if he wants
mircea_popescu: o.O
ThickAsThieves: i'm not even sure whats going on in this regard
mircea_popescu: ok, maybe i'm completely misreading this, but your strategy seems to be equal parts mixture of waxing poetic over how you have no serious stake in things and waiting for stake to ask you out.
mircea_popescu: a) it just did, yo! and b) that's seriously not how it works. you want something, get it.
ThickAsThieves: when did i say no?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> well he can ask me for help if he wants << that.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves what, you don't think a whitelist-only news aggregator can make an income? ;p
ThickAsThieves: well he can
ThickAsThieves: i dunno what server, how much or nuthin
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/cum-gestionezi-abordarile-ghid-pentru-cetatencele-de-sex-opus/ << this is a misnomer btw,
bounce: you givin' out VPSes or summat?
mircea_popescu: it says "guide for citizens of the opposite sex", but it's not. it's universal.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` isn't that the entire premise of the "secret report" biz ?
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> ok, maybe i'm completely misreading this <<< maybe 8)
ThickAsThieves: first i even heard someone needed help with atc anything
mircea_popescu: o.O
bounce: !up progressupdate
nubbins`: it's almost like the guy doesn't wanna dick around configuring a server :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` impossibru
ProgressUpdate: thanks bounce. brb, making otc account.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what's the score yet ?
bounce: that's a start. I suppose you can say hello and stuff after.
nubbins`: man has priorities
nubbins`: wot first, hi later
mircea_popescu: can't argue with that.
nubbins`: !up fivezerotwo
nubbins`: tide ya over for now
nubbins`: ;;google 502 area code
gribble: 502 Area Code 502 - Map, time zone, and phone lookup: <http://www.allareacodes.com/502>; Area code 502 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_502>; Reverse Phone Lookup – Number Directory for 1-502 | WhitePages: <http://www.whitepages.com/phone/1-502>
fivezerotwo: 502 as in bad gateway :)
nubbins`: ah :D
ThickAsThieves: ive said it before and i'll say it again ftr, if someone wants to get paid to polish ATC wallet, packages, or has plans or needs some resoruces to provide infrastructure, services, or products related to ATC, i'm all ears. Just ask me directly and be reasonable. Note that I am no programmer, no hacker, so resources would be limited to funding/investment, project work, and maybe some
ThickAsThieves: visual communication needs
ThickAsThieves: it is writeen
nubbins`: writeen
bounce: love the punchline: http://wolfstreet.com/2014/07/21/russian-point-of-view-new-sanctions-wont-impress-putin/
assbot: Russian View: Why Putin Is Not Impressed | Wolf Street
fivezerotwo: ;;verify http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=brhE7zDk
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve clearsigned data. Check your url.
nubbins`: ;;bg
gribble: Error: "bg" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: wat
nubbins`: ;;guide
gribble: Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc
fivezerotwo: ;;ident fivezerotwo
gribble: Nick 'fivezerotwo', with hostmask 'fivezerotwo!~ProgressU@', is identified as user 'fivezerotwo', with GPG key id D999E6FB8830F6F7, key fingerprint D77774FF9166856C68E656D0D999E6FB8830F6F7, and bitcoin address None
fivezerotwo: kkk
thestringpuller: okkk?
thestringpuller: is devthedev trying to make his own qntra?
fivezerotwo: thestringpuller, not like he's going to get anything with coinbr fees
fivezerotwo: so. duh.
nubbins`: fivezerotwo HI
fivezerotwo: hello
nubbins`: welcome
nubbins`: what do you do?
thestringpuller: "My team's goal is to provide the utmost quality publications and commentary regarding CryptoCurrencies. We came up with the idea to launch CryptoDeck because many other news sources focus solely on the generation of ad revenue and could care less what they're advertising, ultimately leading to low quality news."
fivezerotwo: I ddos sites like bitbet.us
ThickAsThieves: how much to hire you to do it back to whomever hired you?
bounce: so they can care less. hm. and you can't? oh dear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00073885 = 15.1464 BTC [+]
fivezerotwo: a high figure that you won't pay
mircea_popescu: ;;rate fivezerotwo 1 kinda derpy kid with a kinda derpy botnet.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user fivezerotwo has been recorded.
nubbins`: fivezerotwo cool!
ThickAsThieves: i'm asking outta curiosity mostly
thestringpuller: how much are they paying you?
fivezerotwo: ;;isup cryptodeck.com
gribble: cryptodeck.com is down
fivezerotwo: have this on us :)
nubbins`: fivezerotwo how long you been ddosing sites?
ThickAsThieves: dont know much about rates for your kinda service
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i can explain to you how to make "his kind of service" in about ten minutes. provited you've not read the logs to put it together yourself.
nubbins` waits with rapt attention
ThickAsThieves: yeah i'm just interested in some of the market aspects
mircea_popescu: what, you serious nubsy ?
nubbins`: nah
nubbins`: never
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> is devthedev trying to make his own qntra? << no idea ?
ThickAsThieves: whats a cryptodeck.com?
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, these attacks are sorta "what can you do with $10" experiment
mircea_popescu: i have nfi omfg i feel old now
nubbins`: i thought pankkake was trying to make his own qntra
nubbins` chickles
nubbins`: ^ similar to chuckling
fivezerotwo: ThickAsThieves, shitty news site with shitty articles that is now down
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo figures.
ThickAsThieves: cool
ThickAsThieves: can you take down coindesk?
mircea_popescu: cazalla did the dev kid ever send you a submission ?
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jjqjr/cryptodeck_has_now_launched/ << from our friend devthedev
assbot: CryptoDeck has now Launched! : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: and maxkeiser?
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust devthedev
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
ThickAsThieves: and bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: such dictatorship
mircea_popescu: at least it'd have good logos...
nubbins`: but if bitcointalk goes down where am i gonna sell my cas coins?
fivezerotwo: remain assured that after i've maxed out the limits of this tiny $10 vps, i'll be actually attacking qntra.net / trilema.com / et al, for realz.
ThickAsThieves: interesting
nubbins`: fivezerotwo sweet, feel free to pop in with updates
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: can't go wrong with a bit of excitement
mircea_popescu: buy some bitcoin, it'll do more for you.
ThickAsThieves: it really wou;d be sweet to have you write a qntra posty
ThickAsThieves: post*
nubbins`: mircea_popescu maybe he gets paid in btc?
ThickAsThieves: i suspect he's not being paid at all
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, i have plenty of btc, and we have plenty of btc.
nubbins`: fivezerotwo you interested in writing an article about your motivations and techniques?
ThickAsThieves: and he is the offended party
nubbins`: o o o
fivezerotwo: i'd sign you from an address with 1k btc if you'd pay me for mixer fees.
nubbins`: offended!
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, so can obama.
nubbins`: obummer
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves offended at what?
mircea_popescu: not that hard to borrow a little these days. as part of all that "bitcoin wil never function as a world currency" etc.
ThickAsThieves: seeing how much btc you have doesnt really get anyo9ne anywhere
nubbins`: the continuous lels we all share together?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` YES!
nubbins`: oh wow
ThickAsThieves: i assume offended, cuz this seems like spite
thestringpuller: fivezerotwo: I know who you work for ;)
ThickAsThieves: nothing to gain from taking down mp web presence
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what did she do last summer ?
nubbins`: could be boredom
fivezerotwo: nubbins`, maybe ;; mircea_popescu i think you'll find someone who can borrow 1k btc in the span of a hour to be similar
nubbins`: there's only so much news a man can read in the run of a day
ThickAsThieves: how much btc to get you to tell us what the problem is?
nubbins`: i mean, in the long run, i don't think any of us give any particular fucks about the whole situation aside from the spectacle
ThickAsThieves: yeah, i can still get my news from coindesk and reddit
nubbins`: HEH
ThickAsThieves: :)
nubbins`: or, y'know, from the bloggers that feed qntra ;p
nubbins`: i found /r/bitcoinserious yesterday
ThickAsThieves: oh he's after them too tho
nubbins`: oh, k.
nubbins`: it's not updated as frequently, but they disallow memes and price discussion
bounce: http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/10/17/2226200/the-one-app-you-need-on-your-resume-if-you-want-a-job-at-google ``The sexy job in the next ten years will be statisticians.'' -- given that it's gotten more often wrong than right... this is going to be a bit of a ride.
assbot: The One App You Need On Your Resume If You Want a Job At Google - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: 9: bank.kensavage.com << holy shit, the stuff that's in my logs!!1
kakobrekla: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is up
nubbins`: keeping an eye on it for a bit to see if it's worth reading
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo << to work!
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, oi, moved it to cryptodeck.com
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so basically like here, except without all the advantages ?
ThickAsThieves: omg whyyyyy
fivezerotwo: back to bitbet it us
fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is up
ThickAsThieves: such a cocktease already
fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd liken it to reading the logs, but less pithy
gribble: bitbet.us is down
mircea_popescu: you ddosing gribble now ?
fivezerotwo: how will otc survive without gribble!
mircea_popescu: what is sort numeric again, -n ?
nubbins`: altgribble, i guess :(
nubbins`: brb jazz cig
thestringpuller: what is a jazz cig?
thestringpuller: is that when you smoke a cig like a jazz musician?
PeterL: jazz cig is weed ;)
thestringpuller: Hey that's a good term!
thestringpuller: oh no bitbet is down!
thestringpuller: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is up
fivezerotwo: lmao
fivezerotwo: cryptodeck is still trying to recover from the attack that ended 5 minutes ago https://cryptodeck.com/
mats_cd03: hue hue
fivezerotwo: ;;later tell devthedev your server sucks, and you're bad at writing. and why are you trying to proxy apache with nginx or something?!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mats_cd03: fresh drama today
mats_cd03: n an active script kiddy in the wot
mats_cd03: hallo thrrr
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 this one admits it, there's plenty otherwise.
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo how long have you been reading the logs anyway ?
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, years
mircea_popescu: i guess im updating the "six months" thing.
fivezerotwo: haha
ben_vulpes: how can one tell how long a party'd been reading the logs?
ben_vulpes: is the variety speak not an adequate filter anymore?
PeterL: noobs sound nooby
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well he speaks that well enough.
thestringpuller: !up fivezerotwo
fivezerotwo: !up
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo you need to pm it to assbot
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, ah ty
ThickAsThieves: nice swap bid 30d 0.2%/d 396,026.71
ThickAsThieves: <+fivezerotwo> mircea_popescu, ah ty /// such a polite attacker
kakobrekla: maybe he has liabilities too
mircea_popescu: lol and so the myth of the gentleman ddoser was born
fivezerotwo: ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: now and again sysadmins would find a red rose in teh cable tangle
kakobrekla: whats next, give 100% of the ddos back if i ddos you with 25% ?
mircea_popescu: lmao
nubbins`: my sides
ben_vulpes: i'd like my bw back plz
fivezerotwo: lol. you guys aren't going to pay someone to stop ddosing, so i'm not going to bother
punkman: so where does one host a blog that can take some abuse and won't cost $2k a month?
fivezerotwo: punkman, maybe wordpress.com
nubbins`: red rose in teh cable tangle << !
ThickAsThieves: maybe we will pay, but'd probly require more than just stopping
fivezerotwo: oh no, we'd kill it with layer 7
mircea_popescu: bs wordpress.com
mircea_popescu: let us centralize all the things!11
ThickAsThieves: requirement would be turncoat
mircea_popescu: lol tat wants an army
fivezerotwo: heh
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: yeah, let's all huck in on a ddos, guys
mircea_popescu: wait guise. the price is backed by lulz and drama right ? BUT THIS MEANS...
ThickAsThieves: yep
ben_vulpes scrambles for coins
mircea_popescu: shiiit
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.89, Best ask: 394.56, Bid-ask spread: 0.67000, Last trade: 393.89, 24 hour volume: 7886.58498704, 24 hour low: 375.65, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 382.444409536
ThickAsThieves: y'see
mats_cd03: i left my coins in my other pants
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 can you at least sign with them ?
chetty: whats this now, an arcade game?
mats_cd03: yes
ben_vulpes: btc is ultimate arcade game
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: also with side scroller
mircea_popescu: except upside down
ben_vulpes: and its actually scrolling into a dimension you can't really percieve correctly
nubbins`: A+++++++ sure plays a mean pinball would do business with again
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo so what do you do for a living anyway ?
nubbins`: ben_vulpes 4th spatial!
nubbins`: press x/y/z to swap it for the appropriate axis
ben_vulpes: there was a vaporware around this, right?
bounce: random x/y/z/t swaps?
nubbins`: ben_vulpes i remember some video game demo
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes one ? infinity.
ben_vulpes: t/u/v/w, but w/e
nubbins`: http://miegakure.com/
assbot: Miegakure: A 4D puzzle-platforming game.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this game is impossible.
nubbins`: made my brain feel weird
bounce: y/m/c/k
ben_vulpes: "i can't quit you"
nubbins`: bounce +1
nubbins`: incidencally, YMCK is what it should be fuckin called
mircea_popescu: buncha acid fiends
ben_vulpes: kek
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2S4P066.txt )
nubbins`: !b 3 ✂︎
ben_vulpes: it's just an arbitrary set of letters representing stuff...man
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: that's the one.
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, too personal. i'll let you know that a significant amount of things I do is dox/ddos/hack (generally in that order)
bounce: well, if going north goes black, you know who's been playing with the letters, eh
kakobrekla: dox?
mircea_popescu: yeah i was thinking. wut ?
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: i hope i don't get doxed
punkman: ;;seen pentester
gribble: I have not seen pentester.
fivezerotwo: hah. well, talking about dox more broadly. like mapping the target from all areas.
mats_cd03: 11:21:02 <+fivezerotwo> ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137 << trying hard to impress #b-a
mircea_popescu: is this dox thing like, going on violentacres and saying "listen mike, i know where yo ulive" ?
mats_cd03: dis turncoat thing won't b hard after all
mircea_popescu: well, if we had a coat, that is.
fivezerotwo: mats_cd03, more like archiving it as i'm sure log.bitcoin-assets won't remove it
mircea_popescu: it's not that reliable, it's lost lines before
ben_vulpes: http://m.gpo.gov/plumbook/ << this is a pretty good example of how the ussa builds software.
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, more like "here's everything this guy does and have done, oh here's their gmail password"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda why i linked it :)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: different link
nubbins`: somebody said there would be free coats?
bounce: .oO( ``army protection racket'' )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes o i c. right you are, nm. :p
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo kinda lulzy, that. all the "anyonymous" derpage is getting on my nerves.
ben_vulpes: lol at your link and 'software' that's a decent joke albeit accidental
mircea_popescu: :)
fivezerotwo: but i haven't even got my LOIC out and getting 15 year old teenage girls to suicide on tumblr
ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: that's a waste of resources, dood
ben_vulpes: you could have them making human pyramids instead
mircea_popescu: hey, someone got the patience to hussle 15yos, more power to em.
ben_vulpes: not the hassling, the suiciding
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how did the "Dead babies" trope get to be such a big deal ?
mircea_popescu: dead teenagers seems more apt.
ben_vulpes: if you're going for max shock, dead niggers.
ben_vulpes: dead feminists.
mircea_popescu: dead really hot black teenagers
ben_vulpes: dead $SACRED_COW
mircea_popescu: this is fucking rare anyway, i'd weep for the loss.
mircea_popescu: http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2006/12/sure-shes-gained-popularity-but-is-it-really-worth-being-snarky-like-violent-acres/ << decade old lolz.
assbot: Sure, she’s gained popularity, but is it really worth being snarky like Violent Acres? | :Ben Metcalfe Blog
mircea_popescu: "sure, life is good, but is it WORTH BEING MEAN!?!?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: fucktards.
ben_vulpes: being mean is the point of life.
bounce: why, yes, yes, it is totally worth being mean... if you're after drama for popularity.
bounce: then again, not everyone relishes in drama.
mircea_popescu: how about not giving a shit about spurious and extraneous categories idiots use to classify the world
mircea_popescu: in their doomed but hopeless quest to make it feel ok ?
bounce: that too can yield fine drama
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed <<< which fails to explain why the us govt is not taking better care of staying out of our way. << "smart"
mircea_popescu: ah yes.
ben_vulpes: what's the background on "scientologists raped the usg in the 70s" claim?
mircea_popescu: "Applying Growth Hacking to a Book (and to getting ahead) October 14, 2014 — 4 Comments I just put up a 5,000 word breakdown of the campaign for Growth Hacker Marketing for the New York Observer. " << dude these people...
mircea_popescu: they hacked the growthboxen
mircea_popescu: ;;google scientology infiltrated the usg stole fbi irs and other secret paperwork
gribble: Serpo « Reality Uncovered: <http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/category/serpo/>; BUNKER SPECIAL: David Touretzky on L. Ron Hubbard, Mark - The ...: <http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/01/bunker-special-david-touretzky-on-l-ron-hubbard-mark-twain-and-mary-baker-eddy/>
Adlai: they could've done things so much more interesting while they were in there
Adlai: instead they were just all "hurr durr let's read about ourselves because we're most important"
mircea_popescu: Adlai which dovetails neatly in the hitler, kennedy and herr braun discussion yest.
ben_vulpes: neat stuff.
asciilifeform as usual slept through choicest lulz
asciilifeform: and here's one more.
asciilifeform: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/17/executive-order-improving-security-consumer-financial-transactions
assbot: Executive Order --Improving the Security of Consumer Financial Transactions | The White House
mircea_popescu: wait.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.17133181 BTC to 16`307 shares, 7183 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the fuck, THIS is executive order matter now ?!
asciilifeform: fuhrers steps in some dogshitte. 'executive order, dogs shall shit in prescribed vessels...'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.09444684 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 443 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: dude seriously ?! the land of the free, of the brave ? the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?
mircea_popescu: reduced to this ?!
mircea_popescu: "With this tailwind working for us, Charlie and I hope to build Berkshire’s per-share intrinsic value by constantly improving the basic earning power of our many subsidiaries" truly.
asciilifeform: and this - http://7online.com/health/memorial-for-ebola-victim-held;-obama-opposes-cutting-off-west-africa-/351170
assbot: US can't cut ties with Africa due to Ebola, Obama says | 7online.com
mircea_popescu: lol because africa is important somehow ?
ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/488885766001410048?s=09 << amusing honesty
assbot: 68% of Americans think elections are rigged. http://t.co/duqMRiV8x9
bounce: we've seen that before. "because colonialism"
mircea_popescu: but it ended, no ?
mircea_popescu: i could see if it was still a colonial empire, "britain can not be cut itself from the diamond in its crown"
bounce: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2014#869130 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2014 01:09:30; xanthyos: http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/10/cnn-panelist-we-cant-cut-flights-to-liberia-over-ebola-because-of-slavery/ << political correctness will be the end of us all. an avoidable plague will soon be upon us because of bureaucracy and cowardice
asciilifeform: not bureaucracy, not cowardice. deliberate.
ben_vulpes: the secret fuhrer again?
asciilifeform: well, the cowardice of the praetorian guard, who presumably think they'll all be assigned choice bunks in the mountain bunkers.
mircea_popescu: nobody is this amusing deliberately, sorry.
mircea_popescu: what is this, carlin the president ?
asciilifeform: well, he did appoint a lawyer/lobbyist to head the new dept. of obola.
asciilifeform: so clearly we are intended to laugh. while bleeding from various pores.
mircea_popescu: basically americans will be like women, except all over ?
asciilifeform: that'd be interesting. if someone, pulls, like rabbit out of hat, a 'cure' that resembles the aids one
asciilifeform: stabilizes victim into a state similar to this.
asciilifeform: whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.
asciilifeform: !up fivezerotwo
fivezerotwo: oh, i was de-voiced as I got a cloak
fivezerotwo: ty
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: pray tell, why is scarcely anyone writing crapware worth reading (polymorphers, proper exe infectors, p2p c&c mechanism, etc.) ?
asciilifeform: used to be - so many educated folks at work
fivezerotwo: the ones that are decent don't get popular
asciilifeform: well, aren't distributed as spam payloads, yes
asciilifeform: but one would imagine an infector would turn 'popular'
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata not just. houses too, if you build brick walls on concrete pillars... wtf is going to burn ? << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/CEB_Press
assbot: CEB Press - Open Source Ecology
mircea_popescu: <fivezerotwo> the ones that are decent don't get popular << no, im sure he has it. they're "not user friendly"
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: or did you mean to say that they don't become popular in the sense of being imitated ?
mircea_popescu: not in the way batch file wrapped putty is.
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, heh, very much
fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu said it better. not user friendly
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "Sorry This video does not exist." but thank you for your contribution :D
fivezerotwo: you don't design a gui when a CLI interface will do better.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: try w js?
ben_vulpes: http://vimeo.com/49864277
assbot: The CEB Story 2012. on Vimeo
mircea_popescu: noty. im sure you can make sand fucking burn, at the cost of ten thousand bezzlars a gram of burnt sand
asciilifeform: theremite is cheap.
mircea_popescu: but i've also set places on fire, and the repairs consist of repainting the walls.
ben_vulpes: no no no, wrong takeaway
ben_vulpes: guy's built and published the plans for a compressed-earth brick maker
mircea_popescu: isn't that a stupid use of topsoil ?!
mircea_popescu: i mean, you make bricks out of clay rather than cernosiom for a reason
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: why not take the time to grow your 5k into 500k with an improved virulent payload?
mircea_popescu: (reason being, you can't plant trees in clay)
ben_vulpes: gotta dig the clay out and make the bricks
fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, there's also a bit of brain drain with the more clever ones choosing to work with a vendor instead
mircea_popescu: ^
ben_vulpes: i think the thing is pretty ambivalent to input media
mircea_popescu: the clever ones find better lines of work than ddosing noobs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phact. when i came to usa, though 'what desolate martian land is this' upon finding earth to be red instead of чернозем.
asciilifeform: *thought
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some parts of the us are shitty like that.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> anyone giving me even money on undata being a chick ? << i'll take it
mircea_popescu: not all tho.
fivezerotwo: meanwhile the dumbest ones get hired at intelligence agencies developing state sponsored malware
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you're late :D
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: yes
fivezerotwo: see: flame. 20MB, lolwhat
ben_vulpes: i know
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: what a waste of perfectly good 0day!
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo but dude! the bandwidths keep expanding 50% a year! by 2024 it'll be fine!
mircea_popescu: gotta invest in the future!
chetty: <asciilifeform> whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.//+++++
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: though these folks aren't necessarily clinically stupid, any more than microshit employees are. just managed by the 'differently abled' with particular objectives that don't include elegance.
mircea_popescu: it's really not that symphonic
bounce: such appreciation of the fine arts in here today
mircea_popescu: more like an entire cacophonic orchestra.
asciilifeform: arse tubas.
fivezerotwo: it's like all the bad phishing emails with bad spelings and incorrect grammer. two reasons
bounce: you're just tone deaf
mircea_popescu: ahahaha zing
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo that's in the logs.
fivezerotwo: 1) people who can write convincing emails don't write phishing emails
fivezerotwo: 2) people who'll fall for phishing scams will fall for it anyway with obvious typos
mircea_popescu: nah, it's a selection mechanism.
asciilifeform: no one suggested, so i will - the mutilated words are convincing precisely because mutilated. target is - clinical imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: !s spam typo
assbot: 0 results for 'spam typo' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spam+typo
mircea_popescu: hm what was it ?
mircea_popescu: !s spam misspelled
assbot: 2 results for 'spam misspelled' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spam+misspelled
mircea_popescu: there we go
fivezerotwo: heh.
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: other thing is, the gov-sponsored crapware doesn't really need to spread. installed by a bribed/threatened/turned man inside the enemy target. so no need to 'keep a slender figure.'
asciilifeform: spreading is in most cases a minus there. a human being might turn it up and publish reversing, sooner than author would like.
fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, that's true, but it shows that it's a product of brute force instead of talent.
mats_cd03: rofl
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: brute force << yes, it is. i've met folks who have toiled in the fuzz farms.
fivezerotwo: oh yes, fuzzing is quite different
mats_cd03: l0l
asciilifeform: usg employs enormous numbers of these wretches. usually through subcontractors.
mircea_popescu: Fuzz & Fur Farm, LLC is an alpaca farm located in Fort Wayne
asciilifeform: lol!
ben_vulpes: worst part of ddos is noise in assets logs.
ben_vulpes: and y'all complain of tib and mor.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gotta keep the logs user-friendly.
ben_vulpes: best response to ddos is to...not notice.
ben_vulpes: ah funny ddos story
fivezerotwo: kakobrekla, not bad mitigating (if that was you)
fivezerotwo: here's round 2.
fivezerotwo: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is down
ben_vulpes: client recently pushed a change to their frontend app that changed the rate at which the js called the backend
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what did you pay this fine fellow for the heat test?
ben_vulpes: with no safety checks or timeouts or anything
mircea_popescu: oh, involuntary self-ddos is best ddos
ben_vulpes: cascaded into a whole-site-takedown
fivezerotwo: ben_vulpes, national bank?
ben_vulpes: i asked nicely for a staging environment so that we could keep working when they do this in the future
ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: now why would you think that?
fivezerotwo: well, something very similar happened to one. their "IDS" ended up dropping everyone that signed in.
mats_cd03: in other news, windows internals 7th edition is available for preorder
ben_vulpes: "hey you live in new york? cool! do you know this other random guy i met one time?"
ben_vulpes: "no."
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: what's new in 7th?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform nothing, maybe someone else i taking the bill.
kakobrekla: is*
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: you must remember to thank him when he's done.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's got a +1, what more.
mats_cd03: windows 8.1 coverage, i think.
mats_cd03 has yet to completely finish 6th
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: ah yes, the winblows which no one runs.
fivezerotwo: kakobrekla, ya. ;; i'm off now, later.
mats_cd03: fry cook shift comin up?
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: oh b-a Y U SO MEAN
mats_cd03: im sorry, dont ddos me bro
ben_vulpes: feelsgood.png
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i mean noisy or not shit's pretty lulzy.
ben_vulpes: subjective
ben_vulpes: i prefer ancient history
ben_vulpes: "kistmet", etc.
mircea_popescu: kismet ?
mircea_popescu: maybe the problem here is that i don't spend nearly eno0ugh time with teenaged/young adult males. so to me all sort of shit's funny that most everyone else has had it with up to here
bounce: so go teach at the local highschool?
mircea_popescu: i am, except it's a private institution
ben_vulpes: ya, typo.
mircea_popescu: and it includes corporal punishment
bounce: but no males
mircea_popescu: myeah. male kids seem naturally inclined to convince themselves that the stick's to be avoided.
mircea_popescu: girls have more sense.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu surrounded by angst
thestringpuller: that would be a good premise for a tv show or somethin
thestringpuller: surrounded by angsty teens**
mircea_popescu: i don't think any sort of mp reality show can be on tv
thestringpuller: i imagine it'd be like bender's show
thestringpuller: bender should not be allowed on television!
mircea_popescu: i dunno how that goes
mircea_popescu: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is up
mircea_popescu: wait, wasn't this supposed to be down ?
mircea_popescu: what bs service is this scam ddos.
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/ << so meanwhile apparently THIS happened
assbot: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell (2009) - IMDb
danielpbarron: i read his books
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: he's just aiming for qntra and trilema
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron anythng good ?
danielpbarron: yeh, there are some pretty hilarious stories in them
danielpbarron: http://www.tuckermax.com/stories/tucker-goes-to-campout-owns-duke-nerds/
assbot: Tucker Goes to Campout, Owns Duke Nerds « TuckerMax.com
danielpbarron: "HAHAHAHAHAH! Did you just quote a German philosopher at me? You’re standing in mud and piss at 2am, and you just quoted a German philosopher at me?"
thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
thestringpuller: stop lying to me
thestringpuller: %tslb
atcbot: Time Since Last ATC Block (#46329): 1 hour(s), 21 minutes
BingoBoingo: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
mircea_popescu: what, srsly ? don't see em ?
thestringpuller: am I ipbanned again?
mircea_popescu looks
danielpbarron: i suspect the ddos drama is funded by someone in here, for the purpose of making this channel look more important; not strongly enough to bet on it though
mircea_popescu: totally my bad thestringpuller BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Shit happens.
mircea_popescu: sysadmin warned me about amateur sysadmining, but hey, it looked like too much fun.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, you ever had to do a highly qualified job while the boss' teenage kid sits right behind you going o let me drive the plane let me let me!!1 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because that's kinda how this went, with me being my own teenaged son. total mindfuck on the poor professionals involved.
BingoBoingo: prolly
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you know "attax" failed when people start suspecting they're self inflicted based on the end result.
mircea_popescu: but i tell you, it's just the kiss of good management that makes things look that way.
mircea_popescu: !up opusorange
danielpbarron: well it makes for an entertaining read either way
mircea_popescu: I had a chance to hear Tucker Max talk about the movie at a screening and he seemed quite confident that it would surpass Wedding Crashers as the highest grossing comedy of all time. After seeing the movie, it became quite clear that he was completely delusional.
mircea_popescu: This movie was absolutely hysterical. Remember when Alan accidentally gave his friends roofies thinking it was Ecstasy…oh Sorry about that, I was accidentally reviewing "The Hangover," which is what "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell" is without the funny, wit, good writing, and personality. I want to do a compliment sandwich with this movie, but the reality is that I cannot give any because there's none to give. So I'l
mircea_popescu: l just get into it: This movie is bad. Not offensive bad. Let me repeat: NOT OFFENSIVE BAD. Bad bad. This is the Battlestar Gallactica of comedy. The plot is hackneyed and worn out and executed poorly. The characters are so boring and mundane. There's no character development. There are attempts at it, but it falls flatter than William Hung's face. Remember that William Hung reference folks, because it's as obscure and
mircea_popescu: obsolete as the jokes in the movie.
mircea_popescu: dude this sounds like the worst movie ever. i'm watching it.
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/006Z008.txt )
thestringpuller: !b 1 ✂︎
Adlai: if you like bad movies, you must someday watch The Core
Adlai: http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/core.html
ben_vulpes: oh the core
ben_vulpes winces at the memory
asciilifeform: https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pscindx.htm << 'movies' section for memorably bad physics in film
assbot: Science, Pseudoscience, and Irrationalism
asciilifeform: !s steve dutch
assbot: 0 results for 'steve dutch' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=steve+dutch
asciilifeform: eh.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this does read like a KGB playbook (wasp)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's an everybody-with-brain playbook
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9727 @ 0.0007382 = 7.1805 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: 'makes me wanna be a spy
kakobrekla: to anyone who has any parsers or whatever on bitbet or any b-a service i suggest pming me your ip to get on the whitelist
mike_c: pm kakobrekla add me add me!
kakobrekla: sure
mthreat: kakobrekla: the search.b-a crawler is one
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: note that, for all the poetic license of the tale, it is very clear that wasp needs a support network. ☟︎
asciilifeform: just like soviet partisans did (this aspect, naturally, was not emphasized in the children's books.)
thestringpuller: no spoilers!!!!
asciilifeform: this is a spoiler for what, page 3.
thestringpuller: I'm just being silly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37519 @ 0.00073928 = 27.737 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Confidence: I was not lacking in confidence beforehand, but add a bullhorn and I became superhuman. It was like having a gun, except better. Walking around with a bullhorn gives all the authority of a gun, without any of the toolishness or danger of it accidentally discharging in your sweatpants. People just assume you’re in charge and defer to you."
mircea_popescu: this shit probably works, in the us of a.
mircea_popescu: either a bullhorn or a clip pad thingee
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00074113 = 24.939 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00073564 / 0.00073862 / 0.00074211 (586720 shares, 433.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00073316 / 0.00073805 / 0.00074368 (8320567 shares, 6,141.07 BTC), 30D: 0.00073316 / 0.00074402 / 0.00075684 (24347793 shares, 18,115.42 BTC)
thestringpuller: such stability
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: are logs still down?
kakobrekla: if someone cant open the lawgs ping me
mircea_popescu: check this shit out : www.jstor.org/stable/20008753
mircea_popescu: "Throwing Like a Girl: A Phenomenology off Feminine Body Comportment. Motility and Spatiality*. Iris Marion Young. Department of Philosophy, Miami University."
mircea_popescu: rug muncherz be doing phelosoplee nao!
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Iris_Marion_Young.jpg << author.
mircea_popescu: books and teeth, what more could one look for in a woman. spatial motility and whatchagot there.
mircea_popescu: she lived to be 57, apparently becoming a woman doesn't REALLY extend one's life expectancy.
bounce: it was the looks that did her in
mircea_popescu: bitch seriously built a career out of quoting irigaray
mircea_popescu: and her career was "normative review of public policy"
mircea_popescu: ie, telling bureaucrats what they should be shoulding and how they should be shoulding.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla did the dev kid ever send you a submission ? <<< a couple but i believe he's moved on
mircea_popescu: aha aite.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I was going to raise that point with you
decimation: the 'wasp' model is more-or-less a pointless suicide mission for a lone wolf
mats_cd03: welfare science...
decimation: mircea_popescu: people like her run the 'ideas' side of usg
mircea_popescu: hardly any ideas there.
decimation: right, which is why the 'triumph' of her generation is obama - who gave us slightly more health-centered welfare
mircea_popescu: from what i see the quality of health services decreased abruptly past decade.
decimation: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2835288/h-1b-fraud-may-cost-you-your-car-and-gorgeous-contemporary.html
assbot: H-1B fraud may cost you your car and gorgeous contemporary | Computerworld
decimation: texas gave up actually proving that these guys committed fraud; just took their stuff
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why they don't just out and confiscate private property.
mircea_popescu: they learned nothing from history ? do it in one go.
decimation: do it all at once, rather than one at time you mean?
mircea_popescu: well yes. even the greeks have this noted down : if you're going to murder, rape, pillage your own polis,
mircea_popescu: do it all in one go then restore order
mircea_popescu: this slow drip one today, one tomorrow thing will get you overturned.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i guess the greeks "don't understand how the world works"
mircea_popescu: because us libtards do.
decimation: 'ah-hocism'. We dug ourselves in a giant hole - let's dig faster.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea why they don't just out and confiscate private property.//they do all the time
mircea_popescu: no but i mean all of it.
chetty: well first off what private property is there?
chetty: anything they can just take whenever doesn't really qualify as private property does it?
decimation: chetty has a point. at the root of much lib-tardism is the redefinition of concepts against natural law
chetty: a system contrary to natural law will not stand, nothing else is possible.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5482 @ 0.0007382 = 4.0468 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up only
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
BingoBoingo: !up jacoblyles
decimation: mircea_popescu: apparently chomsky's linguistcis peers have discovered that he's an idiot http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9381705&fileId=S0022226714000061
assbot: Cambridge Journals Online - Journal of Linguistics - Abstract - A Galilean science of language
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0PUHkPIYAIxBKj.png << machines present lies
cazalla: tempted to bust out an emulator, save state and try each box
decimation: "Second, Ebola is actually a difficult disease to catch. It's not transmitted through the air like the flu. You cannot get it from just riding on a plane or a bus. The only way that a person can contract the disease is by coming into direct contact with the bodily fluids of somebody who is already showing symptoms. I've met and hugged some of the doctors and nurses who've treated Ebola patients. I've met with an Ebola patient
decimation: who recovered, right in the Oval Office. And I'm fine."
decimation: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/18/weekly-address-what-you-need-know-about-ebola
assbot: Weekly Address: What You Need To Know About Ebola | The White House
decimation: well, then, that puts things to rest
decimation: cazalla: probably would be simpler to reverse-engineer the code
mircea_popescu: dude if obama gets fucking ebola...
BingoBoingo: Really will be obola
decimation: "Finally, we can't just cut ourselves off from West Africa, where this disease is raging."
BingoBoingo: decimation: Because he works for Big Chocolate
decimation: by 'cut ourselves off' he means 'allow unrestricted travel into the us from the region'
mircea_popescu: lol why not ?
decimation: the entire gdp of liberia is less than the market cap of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: seriously, anyone got a good reason why west africa can't just be glassed ?
mircea_popescu: what's the loss ?
mircea_popescu: can anyone name any thing, of any type or kind, that ever in the history of humanity came from west africa.
decimation: most 'people' who live there have already found means to leave
mircea_popescu: anything at all.
decimation: the ancestors of detroit?
mircea_popescu: i don't mean disease, weird pseudomedical garbage, etc etc. i mean, something noteworthy.
mircea_popescu: name a great west african for that matter.
decimation: charlest taylor?
mircea_popescu: kinda my point.
mircea_popescu: so "cutting ourselves off" ? how about there's no good argument against simply burning it to the ground.
mircea_popescu: dat overton window.
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29 "171 Liberia $1,491 mn"
assbot: List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: if the discussion was a proper, "well, do we burn it to the ground or just forget about it", the sanity of embargo would emerge
bounce: chocolate; lots of cocoa coming from ivory coast (which did get its name for a reason)
mircea_popescu: decimation look, it makes almost enough to buy watsapp.
mircea_popescu: in 20 years.
decimation: lol
decimation: maybe it can save up
mircea_popescu: bounce wait, the one thing those people will be remembered for is... a plant ?
mircea_popescu: fucking vegetable country huh.
bounce: oh bananas, those too
mircea_popescu: cocoa will grow fine a dozen other places.
decimation: once the us tried to send the slaves back to liberia
mircea_popescu: it's not from eurasia anyway
decimation: the repatriated slaves immediately enslaved the locals and began running plantations
mircea_popescu: doh
decimation: which more-or-less worked until that became politically incorrect
bounce: ``Although workers' wages in Africa are lower than almost all countries in Latin America, [banana] production costs remain relatively high. This is mainly due to the lack of adequate infrastructure (road networks, communications and maritime transport) and variable quality due to climatic issues.''
decimation: right, which is my point about the 'quarantine' . it's not like the us is making any money off of liberian trade, quite the opposite
decimation: so obama needs to make the argument why one extra obola death is worth having, given the ease of avoiding the possibility
decimation: no one is saying westerners who want to go help can't go
bounce: too many westerners "helping" there as is
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the problem tho
mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone in washington is somehoe connected to a bezzle thing that runs on "helping" west africa
mircea_popescu: so obviously washington can't just tell these people to gtfo
decimation: mircea_popescu: indeed. but even then, they could make exceptions to whatever ban they make
bounce: which means that just about any ban is useless from the start
mircea_popescu: ^
decimation: well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00073564 = 28.2486 BTC [-]
decimation: not that there's any way of enforcing that, what with the health-care related welfare and whatnot
chetty: <decimation> well, if a westerner becomes infected, it's on them to make arrangements to prevent further transmission//yeah that nurse did a good job flying to and from ohio
decimation: chetty: apparently she asked the cdc if it was okay and they said 'yes'!
decimation: I feel sorry for those whose god is usg - he constantly stabs his followers in the back.
decimation: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/15/cdc-officials-confirm-they-told-dallas-ebola-patient-it-was-ok-for-her-to-fly-even-with-low-grade-fever-report/
assbot: CDC Officials Confirm They Gave Second Dallas Ebola Nurse Permission to Fly Even After She Called to Report Fever | TheBlaze.com
TheNewDeal: quiz question - who did btctc?
decimation: wasn't that related to the asicminer stuff?
TheNewDeal: yeah and other stuff https://sites.google.com/site/surfcapitalmgmt/security-research/btctc---amc-pt
assbot: BTCTC - AMC-PT - Surf Capital Mgmt
decimation: burnside?
TheNewDeal: gotcha
decimation: https://btct.co/ "Ethan Burnside BTC Trading Corp"
assbot: BTC-TC: BTC Trading Corp
TheNewDeal: didn't have a significant presence in the wot ? http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=burnside
assbot: Rating Details for User 'burnside'
BingoBoingo: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d04c674377a644cc9270cadaedaf4893/police-another-ambush-suspect-sighting-reported
assbot: Police: Another ambush suspect sighting reported
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/10/incoin-promises-to-liberate-your-payroll/ come back penguirker
assbot: Incoin Promises To Liberate Your Payroll | Qntra.net
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[;;ticker]]
gribble: Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ticker]]
gribble: Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ ticker ]]
gribble: Error: "Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 393.92, Best ask: 395.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.86000, Last trade: 393.54, 24 hour volume: 7747.75851176, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.898564439" is not a valid command.
mats_cd03: struggle bus
mats_cd03: ;;calc 0.03 * [ticker --last]
gribble: 11.8314
ben_vulpes: thanks mats_cd03
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 392.96, Best ask: 393.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 393.0, 24 hour volume: 7807.32067083, 24 hour low: 377.0, 24 hour high: 397.29, 24 hour vwap: 386.998359226
mats_cd03: changing your btc buying habits ben_vulpes?
cazalla: Surf Capital still around eh "Surf Capital Management is responding to a voluntary inquiry from a United States federal regulatory body. More information will be posted as it becomes available. "
cazalla: prepare your angus
kakobrekla: what
kakobrekla: i suspekt he made that shit up
cazalla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg8906480#msg8906480 here
assbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
BingoBoingo: !up The20YearIRCloud
mats_cd03: wouldn't it be 'performing a voluntary inquiry in response to a ...'
mats_cd03: what is this english.
The20YearIRCloud: Hi
mats_cd03: Hi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00073564 = 14.7128 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: Hi
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: well you see i am an utter pauper
ben_vulpes: can only afford hundredth-coin buys
mats_cd03: ill give you 0.03 if you put a sharpie in your butt
ben_vulpes: starfish is worth a sight more than that
mats_cd03: exploding offer
ben_vulpes: slowly heating's supposed to do the trick
kakobrekla: >As always, additional information can be obtained by calling +1-855-483-2776.
kakobrekla: does he charge to call that line?
mircea_popescu: ;;seen burnside
gribble: burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 38 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <burnside> lol
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal ^
mircea_popescu: if you search the log you'll see he got called out numerous times.
mircea_popescu: cazalla are they still loving the neobee brick and store whatever ?
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i suspekt he made that shit up << hey, that coinfire guy sure impressed everybody with similar claims, right ? so now it's open season.
kakobrekla: dunno
kakobrekla: maybe he got the idea from buttstamp
mircea_popescu: dc: "hey mp, you know you have a server here that's been sorta-ddosed for a day straight ?"
kakobrekla: heh my boys didnt even ping me this time
mircea_popescu: mp: "yeah, send mullenweg my poetries"
xanthyos: is that why logs were down last night?
xanthyos: http://www.heathershumaker.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ITSOK_cover-Final-May-199x300.jpg
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 327547.03 in 35 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.56
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00073549 = 1.9123 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: xanthyos if you read them you will know :)
xanthyos: i want to get maryjane in the wot but she doesn't even currently own a laptop, just an android phone
kakobrekla: well lucky for her, RSA can be done with pen and paper ?
xanthyos: heh
kakobrekla: ill buy her a lappy if she does it
xanthyos: heh i just read a bit on that and it's beyond her math skills
kakobrekla: aww
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42566 @ 0.00073756 = 31.395 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: RSA pen & paper << about the same as muscle-airplane. yes, possible.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: no, you don't want.
kakobrekla: not even just once?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: go for it. brush up on trachtenberg or whatever similar system you prefer.
kakobrekla: the idea was for maryjane to do it and score a solution while finding the solution