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mircea_popescu: anyone with a paypal acct wanna send a hundred bucks for me ?
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mircea_popescu: Connection failed: SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that's wqhat you like to see in an advertising platform.
ben_vulpes is still planning to scrape metals off the seafloor
jurov: we want moar zamak!
jurov today used flimsy umbrella (not mine), that's supposed to be used only in some windless fairytales lands - realized "aha zamak"
jurov: it would be likely more resilient if made from plastic.
mircea_popescu: so at 20:40 mp makes an off the cuff reference to an obscure nitpick in a two decade old game franchise. at 21:00 he finds an even more in-depth resource for that thing than he imagined existed, and at 21:52 theres
http://www.crossbrowsertool.com/s/1006147 ie eulora ads running on said property.
kakobrekla: so, i made the mistake of visiting bitcointalk again. got banned 8 minutes after the mention of mpex and had all the previous non related posts deleted. new record for sure.
ben_vulpes: "not deploying giant militaries to bomb targets and wave banners, or propping up regimes and helping them "suppress insurgencies," but working on the long-term realities of helping locals build a government that they're invested in" << not that anyone is capable of doing this any ore
mircea_popescu: kinda reminds me of fetlife going on a rampage deleting profiles of random chicks that had friended me.
testingthisstuff: mircea_popescu, thanks, I'm lurking and, at the same time, trying to find out how to connect to freenode with Tor.
kakobrekla: tor isnt something you want to be using.
adlai: testingthisstuff: tor doesn't work on freenode, they actively prevent it
adlai: used to work, they even ran onion endpoints, but they got sick of... dunno. never gave a good reason for stopping.
adlai: testingthisstuff: also fyi, even the tor developers admit to the ease (~$1M) with which a large-scale sybil attack can be mounted against the network
trinque: jurov: ty, perhaps that ran up against the max message length?
mircea_popescu: didn't give a good reason for stopping at just about the same time they didn't give a good reason for why they never published the results of the supposed inquiry they were going to make into that time when all their servers got compromised.
☟︎ adlai: there's a difference between "we don't support tor becgause they suck at <reasons>" and "we don't support tor because 'reasons'"
testingthisstuff: adlai, mircea_popescu: thank you. i don't mind being my real self. i want to get into the WoT and start participating, looking for the best ways. always thought tor was a good idea but it seems not. I'll start reading at least 6 months of logs, as per the instructions, to catch up
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adlai: testingthisstuff: just use your real self, then you don't have to be gay-for-trip-to-spacestation
assbot: You rated user trinque on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Nice work on the deedbot.
assbot: undata is not registered in WoT.
testingthisstuff: adlai: i admit that i don't practice my ideology in the real world to the full extent and am afraid it's frowned upon here. but i shouldn't care, i guess. people frown all the time.
adlai: "but it only takes zero to just sit there with a dumb look on your face"
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assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 00:31:20; mircea_popescu: in this line, there was a time in central/eastern yurp when married woman HAD to have sewing machine.
PeterL: my wife's family is big on sewing/crafting, they all use their machines regularly
PeterL: my wife and her sister do piecework baby items (bibs, ties, bows) that get sold at a "baby boutique" in Lansing where hipster moms go to spend waaay too much on their kids
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is this Langosteen(tm) for maximal comedy lulz ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: More like a quick couple chuckles
BingoBoingo: tldr; redditors think they've been getting the hard on liver easy on boobs roid, end up with easy on liver hard on boobs one.
BingoBoingo: because they haven't been testing their product until this guy they take the wrong side effect controlling drugs, and end up getting boob gains
mircea_popescu: "I read that if it turns red quickly its dbol or has dbol in it."
mircea_popescu: "why did you behead this man ?" "i wanted to see if it has dbol in it, your honor."
BingoBoingo: dbol is dianabol, the stuff Arnold ate like candy. drol is Superdrol which never made it as a drug because liver death, but was sold as a dietary supplement for all of 2005
☟︎ BingoBoingo: "I ran his sdrol of the first batch he came out with, and it was def sdrol. I can't say anything about the following batches however" << Because the way to identify chemicals is with one's fee-fees
BingoBoingo: They they may do tylenol when the shin splints set in because they've put on 20 lbs
BingoBoingo reads /r/SST as a proxy for understanding the derpage that happens in darknet market discussions
BingoBoingo: There's this odd cognitive dissonance in internet drug users where they will make an earnest effort to derp about the medical mineutia that distinguishes very similar compounds, yet they will rarely get a $20 rapid test to make sure the compound they are about to consume is actually what they anticipate consuming
mircea_popescu: this is a fundamental problem of the monkey brain. to quote :
assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 07:33:36; mircea_popescu: "The Ceremony Administrator boots the laptop from a DVD" << example of "security".
mircea_popescu: derp spent ten pages discussing the minutia of irrelevant theatre, and then... "laptop booted from a dvd".
BingoBoingo: Then again these are the people who if participating in drug tested sports fail the tests because they load up on exotic shit and depot injections, instead of pulling the Alex Rodriguez and using fast acting gels and troches
BingoBoingo: But then again these people don't want to be athletes, they want to be pickup trucks
mircea_popescu: that thing reads to me like a completely crazy repressed faggot pushing the poor woman into insanity.
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure a strap on would be cheaper and penetrate more thoroughly
BingoBoingo: From the same zoo: "The title says it all. My ladyfriend wants baby but skipped a cycle on mast and eq. Does this sound right? Should she stick to test c?" << That baby is going to be born with a bigger dick than its father
mircea_popescu: actually one of the more substantial theories as to the origin of schizophrenia is hormone storm in 2nd trimester.
BingoBoingo: I don't think the anglophone world knew of hormones until the brown dog incident
mod6: Seems to work. Next step will probably be to sign & host SSL/BDB/Boost - but what about buildroot & all of it's deps? those too?
mod6: if we did, i guess we'd have to rewrite the build script for buildroot.
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 04:01:37; BingoBoingo: dbol is dianabol, the stuff Arnold ate like candy. drol is Superdrol which never made it as a drug because liver death, but was sold as a dietary supplement for all of 2005
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: THey are still works in progress. There's myostatin antibodies being tested in rats that... have some serious side effects. Turns out at a certain point being "muscle obese" is not that different from being "fat obese" when it comes to cardiac outcomes
BingoBoingo: From the comments: "We mustn't let this fat fuck fork the blockchain. Death to Bitcoin XT! Long live freedom and anonymity!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform any pubkeys purporting to be a satoshi key are disinfo.
mircea_popescu: * ben_vulpes is still planning to scrape metals off the seafloor <<< alf thinks tmsr silicon is a huge commitment, wait until he finds out about the materially-independent ocean factories.
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jurov: yep, got SERVFAIL too
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jurov: maybe just namecheap is just.. that cheap
jurov: i have nameservers elsewhere (even for domains reg'd at namecheap) and never had such longstanding teething problems
mircea_popescu: while i have nfi why he gets that (it's usually a busted router), the site itself is down.
funkenstein_: meanwhile people-are-either-black-or-white soft porn comes through fine :)
mircea_popescu: funny how you can't find people willing to pay a buck to do something, but you can find people willing to blow through thousands to try and undo something.
mircea_popescu: muy bizarre, but anyway, while attacker resources last no qntra.
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assbot: Switch to libsecp256k1-based ECDSA validation by sipa · Pull Request #6954 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... (
http://bit.ly/1kZymlj )
trinque: "estimated to raise $398 million over 10 years" << lulz
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mircea_popescu: i dunno if anyone's ever seen a watermelon field, but : in the future [like, next year ?] they have this arrangement where there's central piping out in a filed, and fat people go to live in a conected bubble. think "van camping" except without the wheels. they're marketed as you know "reduce your carbon footprint and care for the environment" etc, but basically it is is a suit with lcds and a shitpipe.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so there's fields full of these assholes, and the hacker past time is to hack the control units to make them pop, ie, explode
mircea_popescu: and then go hang out in the field (which is really just like a corn field, nobody goes there) and watch them pop.
mircea_popescu: it could be called "The Watermelon Wake." or some shit.
BingoBoingo: But seriously, I told you the Mizzou stuff wasn't going to be news this week.
BingoBoingo: Instead it is violent lower animal put down, outrage ensues per AP
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BingoBoingo: “A teddy bear that is one foot tall correlates exactly with a Dilaudid demand of 1 mg IV every 4 hours as needed irrespective of whether the bear is naked or wearing a matching outfit,”
assbot: Anti-vax, non-GMO, organic, gluten-free mother wants “strongest possible s**t” to rid her child of head lice | GomerBlog ... (
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BingoBoingo: "Her homeopathic doctor suggested mayonnaise and tea tree oil. But Tallulah’s mother refused, insisting her daughter be bathed from head to toe in the most potent, toxic insecticide available. 10 times."
mircea_popescu: oh check it out, dumbass host currently hosting qntra went into the same "js app" mode that sunk namecheap.
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mircea_popescu: "ARNING: Respond.js doesn't work if you view the page via file:// -->"
trinque: I can't possibly believe the meta-usg theory.
jurov: they know better than to mess with alf
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 16:01:12; mircea_popescu: i dunno if anyone's ever seen a watermelon field, but : in the future [like, next year ?] they have this arrangement where there's central piping out in a filed, and fat people go to live in a conected bubble. think "van camping" except without the wheels. they're marketed as you know "reduce your carbon footprint and care for the environment" etc, but basically it is is a suit with lcds and a shitpi
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 16:58:10; mircea_popescu: things that are impossible to do online : rent hosting.
assbot: Saudi Arabia declares all atheists are terrorists in new law to crack down on political dissidents | Middle East | News | The Independent ... (
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mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> bezzle tools for bezzle plays. <<< fucking exactly. "oh, google can do it". no, they can't.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if one must swim in js soup, and spin 'food' from refined corn so to speak, there are worse protective suits than the jsapp.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 22:51:46; jurov: btw, i have never seen 17yo able to fix problem somewhere deep in html/js/css stack, or even being able to do multicolumn design with misc resize contraints from first principles
ben_vulpes: and it's not just "misc" constraints, it's MUST LOOK GOOD AT ALL PROPORTIONS WHILE CLIENT RESIZES BROWSER WINDOW
mircea_popescu: ascii_field oops, apparently having old ideas as new ones happens
ben_vulpes: that thing where there are no "web pages" on the thing, just a dynamically generated xml tree that the browser renders and rerenders in response to user input.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field here's a thought : trilema looks good at all proportions while client resizes browser window. in ie5, and in anything else.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the problem with it is that it does not work.
mircea_popescu: as ascii_field explains. the value to me of the sort of bs it implements is 0.
ben_vulpes: the engineering constraint is not "webshites that mircea_popescu can use" but "velocity at which bezzlebuxx are burned"
mircea_popescu: but yes, reasonable litmus : if it does this, it's by idiots for idiots and i don't want to be there. so i move.
mircea_popescu: without a clear separation between people and non-people there's no practical way to exterminate the non-people ; any policy goal other than the extermination of non-people is fundamentally evil.
ben_vulpes: it's an exceptionally useful demarcation. "web tech", js and rounded corners for the bezzletron, static html for tmsr~.
ben_vulpes: if not completely static, at the very least no js.
ben_vulpes: now in more tales from the trenches, people buy one of these jsapps and the "oh no my seo"
ben_vulpes: to which the "industry standard solution" is to render relevant bits of the site down into static html.
ascii_field: i can introduce ben_vulpes to the joys of starving
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until they realise trilema/b-a.com/qntra etc simply dominate google for this reason.
ben_vulpes: a search engine of our own would be nice.
shinohai looks longingly at his little pogo on the shelf above.
adlai: you don't need cardano when you have a raspi + 50GH/s
adlai: it provides you with a constant stream so your wallet never runs empty
adlai: "You do not need to wait for a block to be mined. Instead, as soon as your 21 Chip connects to the 21 Pool we begin streaming you a pro-rata share of your mined bitcoin."
adlai: chickens go in, pies come out!
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu: not only do we not have them, but i haven't been touching either for weeks, instead breaking my back to pay rent.
ascii_field: it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus.
mircea_popescu: did the "professional" derp with a wanna-be qntra that kept getting hit by the ridicule truck (no fault of his own! he's professional! etc) finally close the whatever-it-was-called and open a new one ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you must recall, what was that dude's name ? something short and usian, bill ? joe ?
shinohai: He sold it to some site called 99 bitcoins
adlai: kakobrekla: it gets better, they timeshift mining payouts from future coinbases. it's like national debt, but with bitcoins
☟︎ BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: iirc in his selling the thing letter he mentioned intending to start a general technology news thing, but I haven't seen anything out of that yet
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 17:24:50; ben_vulpes: leakin again
kakobrekla: and by "i", i mean anyone that know how to.
kakobrekla: if you have a cloak and are connected to irc server its trivial to resolve.
mircea_popescu: yes. but if you see a name in the logs from 2013 it is not trivial to resolve.
mircea_popescu: anyway, freenode does not enjoy any degree of tmsr trust afaik.
kakobrekla: but why we went about wearing them in the first place
mircea_popescu: well i got mine because sponsorship. was gonna get you and i forget who else one, but then they busted right in between payment and delivery or something. i dun recall exactly.
kakobrekla: afaik the pretense was a ddos protection. but it works only for lazy ddoser.
mircea_popescu: was't there some noob autoddosing new joins at some point ?
hanbot: <ascii_field> it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus. << the tmsr~ trail: asciilifeform has contracted dysentery!
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BingoBoingo: Fuck, a havelol asset crashed enough to make the main channel ticker again!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.04185289 = 1.13 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 19:25:22; hanbot: <ascii_field> it's approximately as interesting or laudable as getting typhus. << the tmsr~ trail: asciilifeform has contracted dysentery!
kakobrekla: TheEarthVolta this is not how ratings work, you just dont ask for one up front.
TheEarthVolta: kakobrekla, Yes, I just wanted to rate a couple of people I follow but couldn't because I haven't been rated myself yet.
BingoBoingo: TheEarthVolta: Who is yout daddy and what does he do?
kakobrekla: TheEarthVolta you cant give away something you dont have
BingoBoingo: TheEarthVolta: Who are you and what do you do then?
kakobrekla: anyone else thinks of timisoara when reads 'tmsr'? confuzzling.
TheEarthVolta: BingoBoingo: OTC trader since 2013. I like reading Qntra and Trilema which led me here. I am tired of Reddit.
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> anyone else thinks of timisoara when reads 'tmsr'? confuzzling. << Sometimes
ascii_field: and i'd say 'nobody asked me' (tm) but kakobrekla did ask, l0l.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 23:53:26; mircea_popescu: ving away from a "frontier" worldwiew and toward a "cargo cult"/scavenger world view. consequently the notion that new things can be made is being gradually abandoned.
pete_dushenski: i see the future as fundamentally subtractive - that is, wiping off the shit in the eyes of physical and digital environments, curating only for the useful and productive aspects, which'd certainly be the "scavenger" element.
pete_dushenski: are those unable to effectively scavenge reduced to cargo cultism ? is that the divide going forward ?
BingoBoingo: TheEarthVolta: What assurances do we have that you are not a cop?
phf: да я его знаю, он в петровке под суками ходил! вали его, воры!
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'I didn't know that,' I said. 'No one knows everything,' he said. 'Did you know,' he said, 'that until almost this very moment nothing would have delighted me more than to prove that you were a spy, to see you shot?' 'No,' I said. 'And do you know why I don't care now if you were a spy or not?' he said. 'You could tell me now that you were a spy, and we would go on talking calmly, just as we're talking now. I
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: would let you wander off to wherever spies go when a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized that almost all the ideas that I hold now, that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He took my hand. 'You alone kept m
☟︎☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: e from concluding that Germany had gone insane.'
trinque: I'm putting my wager on TheEarthVolta being some 20s Texan guy with a big beard and short attention span.
trinque: also likely fan of prog-rock
trinque: I've always preferred the people here, being that they're capable of eye contact and conversation
phf: also best burritos in the country
trinque: and I arrived for the nicest part of the year
trinque: phf: also that, love the food
trinque: can't say that I've seen a girl with stretched out earlobes since I've been back, either
pete_dushenski: trinque: v. good to hear. didja end up in one of those apartments on the water you posted a while back ?
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trinque: not yet, staying with family and planning on doing some traveling soon, so I'll settle around here after the new year
trinque: I've looked at a few places in downtown Houston as well, but I hear the crime situation down there has gotten a bit worse since I lived there last.
mircea_popescu: these are some women that are doing no work, but going through THE MOTIONS of doing work.
mircea_popescu: it is, to them, the reality of the daytime tv drama. the scholarly term for this is, "cargo cult".
mircea_popescu: it used to be "fakle it till you make it", which is how this always starts. now there's nothing to make, on account of everyone doing the same faking.
mircea_popescu: nothing is immune from thios brain rot, but the capital investment requirements provide protection.
mircea_popescu: which is why the derpage started in "design" and "pr". by now oil is falling, and oil is really the highest capital investment industry out ther.e
mircea_popescu: the problem with cargo cultism being, of course, that the only thing it produces is frustration.
mircea_popescu: (if it fails, necessarily, but also if it succeeds. especially if it succeeds.)
mircea_popescu: that frustration, being on a social rather than individuyal scale, and coherent, will find the usual debouchees.
mircea_popescu: at first, the failure is going to be the fault "of racists", like you see in missouri. like "foreign agencies" in early soviet times.
mircea_popescu: check it out, ascii_field 's link doesn't load in the same manner the other sites discussed today don't load.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski there was a minority of french in germany in 1930, you never heard anything about those./
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: you mean pete_dushenski's link ?
mircea_popescu: the blacks have nowhere to go. besides, you don't see tumblrs dedicated to "mexicans fucked my wife"
ascii_field: '11/13/2015 Multiple buffer overflows in the (1) png_set_PLTE and (2) png_get_PLTE functions in libpng before 1.0.64, 1.1.x and 1.2.x before 1.2.54, 1.3.x and 1.4.x before 1.4.17, 1.5.x before 1.5.24, and 1.6.x before 1.6.19 allow remote attackers to cause a denial of service (application crash) or possibly have unspecified other impact via a small bit-depth value in an IHDR (aka image header) chunk in a PNG image.'
ascii_field: ^ literally EVERYTHING of any interest from same
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the archive.ius version i can see just fgine\
mircea_popescu: so i somehow suspect perhaps this is not a simple matter of js-and-the-browser
ascii_field: on the off chance anyone gives half a fuck
shinohai: mircea_popescu: your node down ?
ascii_field: shinohai: both of mine are going, if you need a node
mircea_popescu: ascii_field looks like a buggy google analytics script ?
shinohai: k thx mircea_popescu, ascii_field
shinohai: twas a busy day, haven't checked it before nau
mircea_popescu: so basically they don't want to load the page until thje script is loaded and i've nullrouted google analytics.
mircea_popescu: "This presumably goes some way towards explaining why the response to this atrocity consists largely of people declaring that they will continue with their way of life/values as an act of defiance against the killers. The hope being that shopping and consuming junk culture will somehow magic away the enmity of the invaders. Or at least it might stop us from having to think about it."
mircea_popescu: "Europe has invited within its borders a very large number of people who have every intention of carrying out further atrocities, and decadent whining only serves to strengthen their purpose. Because their purpose is transcendent, it is to do the will of God and they are entirely willing to die in this purpose."
mircea_popescu: "europe" such as this exists does the same thing for three millenia straight : once it peaks, it regresses to an infantilized state.
mircea_popescu: europe is currently a 12yo girly playing idly with her cullotes.
ascii_field was under the impression that 'syrians' were already unloading in usa by the boatload
mircea_popescu: the notion that "the usa" is anything but an obscure, inferiority-complex-ridden province of europe is laughable.
mircea_popescu: it never became anythning, washington-les-deux-monuments.
trinque: I didn't hear the dirt saying anything about USA as I drove across it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the writhing of the castrato bois notwithstanding, europe's doing its cycle.
mircea_popescu: "Now, this is not really a reason to admire them; they should be rightly condemned as the callous killers that they are. But what we need to set in opposition to them is not a further erosion of our already crumbling sacred traditions, but a redoubling of our efforts to resanctify our own dormant traditions and, perhaps even more urgently, to create new ones."
mircea_popescu: 13yo whiteboy doesn't agree to mommy getting remarried!
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ascii_field: ' It’s $2.99 on Kindle, if you’d like me to Venmo you the money. As a person who not all that long ago walked away from Gawker Media, and who also grew up reading Gawker, Jezebel, and Deadspin, the little Kindle Single can actually be a delight...' << at this point my gas mask clogged and i can read no moar
mircea_popescu: every hipster doofus with his made up shit, trying t oget me to look it up.
ascii_field: i still don't grasp the proliferation of spampaypals
ascii_field: who the everliving fuck uses them, and for what
ascii_field: or is this merely another army of the undead thing
ascii_field: that doesn't need chumps in the usual sense
phf: venmo is "big" with college crowd, on account of having better "apps" support. if you're building anything for that crowd, you would carefully consider using venmo as an alternative to paypal
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phf: knowing that venmo is in or that paypal is out has no technical merit to it, it's only worthwhile if you're working in fashion industry. continuing that analogy you're building space suits, it's entirely irrelevant to you what sort of pants 20 year olds are wearing.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> or is this merely another army of the undead thing << it is. bitcoin killed paypal, maggots trying to get a piece.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: did i somehow sleep through a death of the ebay monopoly ?
mircea_popescu: the point is not whether garden gnomes are sold for btc or anything else.
mircea_popescu: the point is that the paypal power of the 2005s was broken, and now they're reduced to being a sort of etsy beenz, except for a slightly larger etsy called ebay.
mircea_popescu: neither carry any cultural importance, and so in this sense paypal was broken.
mircea_popescu: just like the blacksmith that made the "best steel" of 1415 is for all anyone knows/cares still in the same smoky shed down the same muddy road doing the same grumbly job of it.
mircea_popescu: the only difference is that in 1415 his workproduct could buy you the world, and in 2015 it's at best a curio.
mircea_popescu: it all comes down to that ancient "could you buy all of russia by selling apple stock".
jurov: at least that blacksmith does not go mtgox
jurov: whereby i learn only hate on paypal from all sides
jurov: they ask 2x more fees than credit card companies, yet looks like accepting money through them is much more dangerous
jurov: must be some kind of waterfall going there, too
mircea_popescu: there are of course the sort of fucktards like for instance came out of the woodwork with the blender foundation debacle who are so invested in making the world suck that they're natural allies for shit like paypal.
mircea_popescu: but hopefully isis reformats their dumb ass in short order.
ben_vulpes: not to be confused with the "hubculture" "ven"
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall some atrociously hipsterish derps going on some sort of ven rampage with...
BingoBoingo: Fuck, has Bitcoin been around long enough for PTSD flashbacks to set in
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that reads to me like "ford to provide new thermodynamics for construction industry"
BingoBoingo: Fuck, why does all the fun news have to drop during downtime
BingoBoingo: If they have all the nodes they get to see all the traffic
BingoBoingo: Then Obama makes a poop swastika in the whitehouse and cries racism
BingoBoingo: And it ends with Charlie Sheen coming out as positive, HIV positive
BingoBoingo: The watermelon field thing might happen next month for all I know