tmsr - Search: bait

mp_en_viaje: the objection, in short, is not that the worm's not delicious, but that the worm's just bait.

BingoBoingo suspects if anything invitation to datacenter was bait for premature enforcement of contract suit service.

asciilifeform: lobbes: the cloaks thing is 100% red herring, i have a deliberate bait running for 2+h nao naked, and 0 floods

mircea_popescu: fun fact for rotards : andrea ESCA is named for the fleshy bait atop an anglerfish head. didn't know thsat, did you.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934022 << can't resist the bait -- neither the 3y of phf's logger, nor deedbot, 'useful' ? ( or does 'see' require that proggy is actually published ? or wat. )

asciilifeform: trinque: dun mistake asciilifeform's pos. for 'it is loathesome, ergo i want no part in selling'. rather, describing why the product only even appears to exist because is convenient bait for usg fish hooks in the 1st place. consider, how could supply a warez bandwidth for people who expect to pay 3 $ / mo ? i dun even know if possible to supply a length of rope with which they can hang selves, for 3 $ !

asciilifeform: i.e. cultivation of 'axe handles' in orclands using miami inhabitants as 'live bait'.

BingoBoingo: Well, you can try to make the hours that you have count. Proactive communication, bait folks with the problems you are chewing on. Get Peh battle ready and pivot to Pizarro and get an outreach machine going.

mp_en_viaje: not gonna do a fucking novel, i tell you that. i might put up the details re the bait & switch "hotel" / scam, but atm waiting to see what the police say and for report on list of various authorities that could be induced to inspect the shithole.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919988 << nah, just bait & switch scamhotel / coupla managers. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, so basically, moving into the switch phase of his bait and switch scheme ? didn't work for that other cocksucker, either.

mp_en_viaje: and the EXACT same goes for linus. because if deedbot comes out with 0, you know ~for a fact~ schmuck's running a bait and switch scheme, waiting for anon tards to donate their wikipedia editing to him so he can donate it to some "code of conduct" femstate tards down the line.

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-21#1903897 -> expert pickpocket is first of all expert in choosing victim; that being said, in Bucharest it was the 601 bus (always overflowing) and/or buses/trams from the North Station (bc. people with luggage in a hurry to get on the bus); this doesn't mean that it's not obvious and avoidable but assuming you want to bait them for the xp, those are easy spots. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: what fucking chump bait are you the fuck on about in your own solipsist hell entirely lost to any reason ?

a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 16:54 asciilifeform: ( i'ma take mircea_popescu's word for 'they are available to konsoomer' , evidently currently worth slightly moar as chump bait than as ore )

asciilifeform: ( i'ma take mircea_popescu's word for 'they are available to konsoomer' , evidently currently worth slightly moar as chump bait than as ore ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: to entirely round off the chalkboard, mircea_popescu may be interested to know that no one has called the 1-800 since we last spoke of it. the current summed cost stands at 12 orcbux, and is set to increment by 22 orcbux/mo ( we've spent the vendor's 'test drive' bait). i'ma cover the lunch money cost of this item until given to know that it aint wanted.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one thing that blows my mind is the compartimentalization. "you either own the computer or else work for the usg" is somehow self-evident ; "you either own the woman or else work for the usg" is magically not, because "it was not clear to me dks was the woman in our relationship, what is the similarity between the dangly-bait cunt in each case ?!?!?!"

mircea_popescu: and besides, and just as importantly : the boy who puppyloves some girl ~is in no way different ; IN NO WAY DIFFERENT~ from the erastes who "loves" some man's kiddy bait whore.

asciilifeform: ( interestingly, there's precisely 1 kind of trap that worx on him -- iron tube filled with bait, and trigger requires ~pull~, rather than push, he cannot pull with stick, ends up scooping it with bait an' pulling )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1863069 << seems likelty one of those right wing "pay low tax get economy going" things. sometimes they're used as bait and switch by govt. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-09-19 04:57 asciilifeform: trinque: how'd you react to neighbour cornfuck leaving poisoned bait for your beast to find ?

BingoBoingo: Tres Cruces is a fun place to go to chat cute girls but... it the only barrio with traffic issues, far from the water, and the place I most frequently run into dyed hair activist sorts (the national bus terminal seems to be irresistable bait for the fifth column)

asciilifeform: ( incidentally, the 'now you can charge from ordinary usb!' was a bait-and-switch crock of shit, plugging usb-c into ordinary usb doesn't supply even 10% of the needed current, what the thing does with its brick is to negotiate a much higher voltage, up to iirc 40v )

mircea_popescu: in other lulz / other dead things, https://www.shoemoney.com/ completely forgotten. nobody gives a shiot even about his cheapass bitcoin bait.

asciilifeform: then they pulled the bait-and-switch and properly shat on the 'owner can cleanse' conceit.

asciilifeform: ('hey, all the other commercial unix vendors croaked, we can do the bait an' switch nao')

mircea_popescu: yeah. after years of trying to "establish" the usual bullcrap ("brand"!!!) they finally moved to the switch part of the bait-and-switch.

mircea_popescu realises this is possibly the worst bait and switch ever. but i swear, unintentional!

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-28#1777618 << the wisdom of this sinks in. can't fish for humans with shit for bait. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719939 << pretty much 100% of present day "us tech" "industree" etc is built on bait and switch.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773825 << i gotta bite this bait -- how does mircea_popescu picture this item ? ☝︎

phf: when i started to apple there was an odd network of apple repair shops, that were completely warranty voiding, but they could do non-trivial operations on a mac (in fact with a few exceptions the owners were knowledgable tinkerers ready and willing to chat about finer points of electronics hackery), the network has been completely destroyed by the bait and switch of "authorization" that apple pulled right after they started the whole apple store thing.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758218 << lollfull. also because medium finally switched the bait, now it's full page "pardon the interruption" interstitials. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: dude's ~as maddox-knockoffy / dumb as i remember it, however, "The Pick Up Artist community has turned thousands of young men into silly cheap-shits. Their “The Game” plan is simple: 1. Don’t pay for shit. 2. ? 3. Pussy! But that’s like switching from live bait to dynamite when you’re fishing in the bathtub. Here’s a straighter line between points U and P: 1. Stop dating chicks that aren’t going to fuck you!"

mircea_popescu: expensive where not built, expensive because temporary disruption (flood, bait-and-switch in switch cycle by socialist "corporation", etc)

a111: 0 results for "bait and switch technology", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=bait%20and%20switch%20technology

a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:59 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan

mircea_popescu: now, this worked fine in the 90s, when the statal motherly "please don't do it" was backed by my "motherfucker if i see you again ima use you for fish bait".

mircea_popescu: meanwhile facebook started as a "put your crap on this alt-myspace and check out the large numeric values printed to GOOD THING". basically, facebook was one of those "webvisitors counters" except in a more skinner-y scheme. recently they dropped the bait and are essentially trying to capitalize on what's known in economy as stickiness, the exact same psychological tendency as discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefi

mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan ☟︎

mircea_popescu: kinda the perpetual bait and switch of "world changing" silicon valley "businesses" in the "industry" aka websites for the rest of the world, still vying for the supposedly valuable "UGC". except for the part where there's no ugc nor would it be valuable, all's well.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719939 << pretty much 100% of present day "us tech" "industree" etc is built on bait and switch.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719939 << pretty much 100% of present day "us tech" "industree" etc is built on bait and switch. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: on the strict, first layer implications, soviets eating the bomb bait produced some rich us contractors and a bankrupt su economy.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> trinque: how'd you react to neighbour cornfuck leaving poisoned bait for your beast to find ? << 90% of successful pest control is geography

asciilifeform: trinque: how'd you react to neighbour cornfuck leaving poisoned bait for your beast to find ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: anyway, since nobody apparently got the faberge egg bait, let's put it in the logs. so yes on the substance front i asked alf if he knows what it is because it is in fact stained glass, except with gold instead of lead and porcelain instead of glass, ie just like his properly cast key, piston-and-typeface in metal, bulk in porcelain.

asciilifeform: to be planeteered over, surveilled, dekulakized ( via, e.g., kanzure's 'well-regulated' bait-and-switch shitcointronics ) , re-dieted to mealsquares, etc.

mircea_popescu: ir lawyers to arrive. That’s actually why it’s so filthy. I was just looking to “troll” a big studio. Then, as I began editing the radio play and boarding it, the two characters ended up becoming something different than just a bad impression of Doc and Marty from BTTF. They slowly became two of my favorite characters that I’ve ever voiced. I backed down on the cease and desist bait and changed the spelling of their

mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's really no way to run for oneself. take jurov for instance : years later he's still struggling to come to terms with the specific portions of socialism he can't let go of. if people end up taking teh bait and going to bury themselv es ion google for the rest of their life, what exactly was lost ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677276 << this is reminiscent of the 'i left a box with bait of 1 bitcent and nobody broke it, SEKOORE!!!1' -- you gotta ask 'was the game worth the candles'. an 0day can be worth from $100k to $maxint; why does your particular honeypot, merit blowing it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: this is the perpetual bait and switch : "fuck you, be useful" creates a lot of people with repressed needs. it APPEARS that "to everyone according to his needs" will then turn a profit. get themn to vote you, pay their tiny needs, make bank.

mircea_popescu: and since nobody's taking the bait : similarities between dog and engineer : both have intelligent eyes and neither can express itself.

Framedragger: not to bait or anything - i mean this charitably and honestly. it's just not the most productive approach, imho.

a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 19:58 ascii_field: mats: the way it works is, there are precisely two kinds of permitted mass media in usa: 1) usg 2) usg crank bait

a111: 34 results for "crank bait", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=crank%20bait

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (you're invited to go fishing, discover fish will eat your bait and not bite) << AHA, this is where most bait goes.

mircea_popescu: which is why he joined the army, too, trying to bait that absent father ; and which is WHY the candy thing. didn't want the fucking candy anymore than i do. just wanted to see if dog may be enticed to bark in the exact manner that'd get it shot ?

phf: well, he opened with a "scale issue", but when started getting concrete answers from ben_vulpes "backtracked" but doing one of those setup questions, "do you believe in freedom?" sort of thing. ben_vulpes refused to eat the bait. that's where you either switch tactic or close the setup "well, if you believe in freedom then you obviously believe in bombing them sons of bitches". but instead of closing he started nitpicking whatever ben_vulpes was s

asciilifeform: it is theoretically still in production, but every vendor i know of will attempt to bait-and-switch and spuriously substitute the 2015-and-post revision that will NOT.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: regarding the "let's do cicada" objection - there probably are several angles which one could counter with - is the main one basically what trinque said, i.e., it's a form of (dishonest, to boot) bait-and-switch, which selects for some $random_criterion and the latter may not at all translate into what's actually useful?

trinque: this idea of marketing with some bait and switch proceeds directly to a bunch of "fuck you, I'm just here to ..."

asciilifeform: nfi why vote-diddlage has to be done in plain sight of the victim -- other than as 'crank bait'.

mircea_popescu recommends you read into the story of the satmar (bait : "If its schools in New York were a public school system, it would be the fourth-largest system in the state, after those of New York City, Buffalo and Rochester.")

asciilifeform: but in many ways the move to multiuser os on home comp was a bait-and-switch scam

pete_dushenski: diana_coman: what's specifically 'eu' about the baltic, yugoslavian, romanian, what have you arrangements is that the fancy town squares and rebuilt castles were the bait and switch in exchange for monetary hegemony. there are exceedingly few examples of such peaceful expansion of territory in my historical memory banks (though i'm open to being disabused of this notion)

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "bait" is not a valid command.

asciilifeform: bait and switch is a form of fraud, regardless of how strong a legal 'roof' the fraudster has.

asciilifeform: funny thing, lewis started showing up at the open air blackmarkets back in... '91? and we bought, and enjoyed, and then choked mid-way through series on the obvious bait

mircea_popescu: fiatola "security-oriented/minded/focused/blabla" === "varmint with cheese preference". all it does is it tells the exterminator what to bait the traps with.

a111: Logged on 2016-07-13 11:48 Framedragger: this may sound like bait, but.... could you not just use signed commits in git, and enforce use of those commits, and use `git blame`? is the argument against this the usual "git is a shitload of code, best to start anew [and also without existing political associations re. github etc.]", or sth more than that?

mircea_popescu: trilema's even worse, there i have the time to elaborately bait people. here i'm stuck with much shorter intervals.

Framedragger: this may sound like bait, but.... could you not just use signed commits in git, and enforce use of those commits, and use `git blame`? is the argument against this the usual "git is a shitload of code, best to start anew [and also without existing political associations re. github etc.]", or sth more than that? ☟︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways if you use sharbites (even if you decide to use legacy copper theft bait) the entire spectrum of expenses incurred by the plumbing profession is eliminated on the water supply side

mircea_popescu: point remains : the "we don't know which physical object maps to the logical object called <this server>" bit worked, even in the "look but don't touch" version displayed by tor. in fact - it was the bait in that trap.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Don't forget to change the bait or you'll zap everything but mosquitos!