tmsr - Log 2019-06-25

asciilifeform: trinque: i used not long ago a recent huawei lappy. same irons as top-of-line crapple, 1/3 the cost, and 10x less fan whine.

BingoBoingo: 81 minutes into the game, Uruguay scored. Notification came via increase in ambient noise.

BingoBoingo: <trinque> epic, literally going to fasttrack "IP theft" ~from~ the chinese. Huehue Corp must have good shit. << Also have to look at the China-US-Iran dance. We are looking at the end of US lists mattering outside the wire.

BingoBoingo: In the ongoing prison break drama, apparently there is a special extraditee escape route https://archive.is/kpsJU

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-24#1919871 << check it out, empire decides "by itself" to implement republican wot-only IP claims system, coincidentally omits any mention as to where it learned it. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-24 23:21 trinque: epic, literally going to fasttrack "IP theft" ~from~ the chinese. Huehue Corp must have good shit.

mp_en_viaje: the fact that the monkeys are monkeying about ~~~INTELECTUAL PROPERTY~~~ only adds to the unintentional comedy.

diana_coman: in snake-pit "surprises" since I still have a github account, I just received a notification that a "first-party GitHub" application was recently authorized to access your account; I suppose it's nice of them to notify.

mp_en_viaje: maybe just there to make sure & be proactive re any unseemly account updates you might make. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 21:39 nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, it shows that people from linkedin viewed my profile and like asciilifeform said, why just delete the company instead of the whole profile

ave1: asciilifeform, past week I was trying to get sjlj to build (also for aarch64) ☟︎

ave1: going is slow, last try resulted in a crash with a text to contact adacore

diana_coman: ave1: I remember I got something like that, should be in the logs.

ave1: diana_coman, Thanks, I will look for it (I had problems like these before with other steps last year)

ave1: Development always seems to go backward while I am doing this, until suddenly I see where the problem is. ☟︎

diana_coman: ave1: found it but I think it was just precisely how we realised that it's broken on arm http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1897027 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 17:45 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1896926 -> this failed precisely in the same way; need to get to the bottom of it really because Adacore's gnat otherwise IS compiled with sjlj so wtf

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919888 -> this is usually precisely my experience too when sorting out some mess. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 06:29 ave1: Development always seems to go backward while I am doing this, until suddenly I see where the problem is.

diana_coman: ave1: anyway, that thread above does have some pointers to what/how we found re sjlj on arm so maybe worth looking at it anyway

diana_coman: huh, any actual people that might even get to register a key , hang out in your castle and help you with some work? :D

ave1: And developing a hate for people that call themselfs software engineers ☟︎

ave1: On most resumes, they write experience with ¨AI¨, which consists of 1 course

diana_coman: but ofc, they write what they think HR wants to read, what

diana_coman: trilema.com has this whole category "3 years of experience"

ave1: Yes basically, Junior is 0/2 years, Senior is anyone above 5 or so

diana_coman: I must say that I got totally fed up precisely with "software engineering" some 10 years ago and I doubt it got anything other than worse meanwhile so no surprise there

ave1: I work in an (not software) engineering company, the difference in professionality between software and everything else is large

diana_coman: myeah, sadly I have seen that before over and over again

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 06:37 ave1: And developing a hate for people that call themselfs software engineers

mp_en_viaje: anyone remember which trilema i delved into a discussion of the separation of pay / benefit and how it drives up costs ? ☟︎

feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/oslo-that-unredeemably-sad-shithole/ << Trilema -- Oslo, that unredeemably sad shithole

mp_en_viaje: lol. nah, still oslo airport, getting the fuck iut of this shithole. ☟︎

diana_coman: that picture of the airport cab-queue is quite something

mp_en_viaje: not in the depths of 1987 winter were there such queues for oil/sugar/whatever

diana_coman: that's pretty much what it instantly made me think of: those bread-queues running around 3 blocks of flats up and down the whole neighbourhood; except I was miserable then even playing while waiting in the queue and I doubt any of those in there was NOT miserable

diana_coman: by contrast, airport-people seem quite happy to be there, no idea how

mp_en_viaje: http://archive.is/0bdxh#selection-227.514-227.602 << item. and btw, nobody (as in, the various eaterias) in airport has wifi, because "the airport has wifi". which it does -- i think the whole thing runs off a dial-up modem, i'm getting 5kb/s over here. so much for "internet weks". ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: all these faggotty fuckfaces in skinny suits, no doubt "software engineers with ai experience" spreading their awareness & concern on subjects and topics on reddit & shithut

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, incidentally, that was EARLY. it got way the fuck worse later, so much worse in fact the thing kept spinning on itself. this very placid police officer was patrolling the place, discovered he can't pass... just ... no problem, turned back.

mp_en_viaje: god help them if there's a fire, they'll die like indians.

mp_en_viaje: i dunno there exists a place this bad in the world. previously england was my mark of "worst food in the world" ; but london's nothing like oslo.

mp_en_viaje: in london's just a case of "if you don't specifically seek the good stuff, you'll get crap", like in the us midwest

mp_en_viaje: in oslo there is no good stuff to seek. none. whole fucking country lives off moldy biscuits, the 1987 romania comparisons are very well supported when it comes to diet.

diana_coman: well, for one thing london benefits from having all sorts of non-english food so it's not that hard to eat good food; for the other, up there in the north there seems to be precious little edible

mp_en_viaje: half the people here / 100% of the people doing anything are muslim / black.

mp_en_viaje: however, the problem is one of raw materials, i suspect. because even their ethnic places suck balls.

diana_coman: fish, reindeer/moose and maybe mushrooms at times or what else (this was my Finland experience)

mp_en_viaje: there's no fucking rule you can't fly in fresh italian bread ffs. my grocery shop in cr does precisely that.

mp_en_viaje: and i don't fucking buy it, either, because wtf, the harem bakes. but it's ~good~.

mp_en_viaje: these cuntheads are supposedly so fucking rich, they're eating worse than half of punjab

diana_coman bought precisely italian and/or french bread from the shop in cr so can attest - it was fine.

mp_en_viaje: "oh, a good diet's just not that important to us" "o yeah ? then what the fuck is important to you ?" "multiculturalism!"

diana_coman: food is a matter of habit too, though; that story with the burnt-food-best-food, what.

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, you know... italy is 5 hours away, as compared to 12.

mp_en_viaje: yep, that's exactly how fucktarded romanians survive in communism : since they never saw anything else anyway... bere ciuc.

diana_coman: I was quite surprised at that thing - wtf fly bread from italy all the way to cr; I mean: why wouldn't they be able to bake it on the spot and even better at that? it must be easier to fly the grains/flour if anything but other than that ffs it's just flour and water; can even fly water if needed

mp_en_viaje: anyway, wrong molds in cr. it's not possible to get sourdough going, for instance. ☟︎

diana_coman: huh, I had no idea ; I assumed you could get the yeast, hm.

mp_en_viaje: nah, it's complicated, has to do with the atmosphere. besides, air transport's ~free, what the fuck do you care, a grosse baguettes weigh twenny lbs, costs a buck

mp_en_viaje: yes well. tropical forest & biodiversidad. can prolly find a spider to fuck, if patient.

mp_en_viaje: (for the modern reader : grosse - twelve dozen items, 144pcs)

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919922 << o yeah, forgot to mention -- spent an hour today at polcie station filling in complaint! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 13:08 mp_en_viaje: lol. nah, still oslo airport, getting the fuck iut of this shithole.

diana_coman: at least there was no queue there - at filling in complaints :D

mp_en_viaje: yeah, very mild. they don't do the whole preceinct system seen in civilised / urban places. instead the thing ("policehouse") covers... the whole of oslo police district

mp_en_viaje: it's a large building, with the jail together and everything. but unlike say chicago or w/e, you go therre you don't see the line of cute girlies sobbing quietly seated by the wall ; nor the buncha doods holding their guts

mp_en_viaje: i was the only one actually looking to dress a criminal complaint, everyone else mostly doing bureaucratica, picking up OFFICIAL PAPERS, some dood checking if his driving license is good... ☟︎☟︎

mp_en_viaje: evidently enough most of their fare's not actually of a police nature, judging by how i passed two filters in five minutes.

mp_en_viaje: just about yeah. they have a very... well, social view of police. exactly as dorel visan's character says, "suna lumea la politie ca la un prieten". it

mp_en_viaje: s basically substitute big brother for most residents.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919913 << sorta like the folx who 'looked up to' doctors in 18th c. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 06:47 ave1: And they look up to software

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919957 << still seems like oughta be cheaper to fly in the mold, than whole thing ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 13:30 mp_en_viaje: anyway, wrong molds in cr. it's not possible to get sourdough going, for instance.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 13:43 mp_en_viaje: i was the only one actually looking to dress a criminal complaint, everyone else mostly doing bureaucratica, picking up OFFICIAL PAPERS, some dood checking if his driving license is good...

asciilifeform wonders if they have 'прописка' in norway. i.e. where must Officially register place of residence with polizei erry time changing flats ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919884 << a working gnat for 'mipsel' would also be pretty great. ( i tried at one pt, coupla yrs ago, for 'pic32mx' processor, got stuck on some barf ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 06:24 ave1: asciilifeform, past week I was trying to get sjlj to build (also for aarch64)

asciilifeform: will need one, not only for piz mips cluster, but for eventual hardwarization of peh ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-24 17:27 asciilifeform: it'll defo need review by literate folx before deployment to such things as piz, tho.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919971 << lol, can't resist to ask, didja file complaint against whole city, for being fulla criminally insane lolcows ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: not even in saddest airport in usa do folx ~queue for cabs~

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 13:15 mp_en_viaje: http://archive.is/0bdxh#selection-227.514-227.602 << item. and btw, nobody (as in, the various eaterias) in airport has wifi, because "the airport has wifi". which it does -- i think the whole thing runs off a dial-up modem, i'm getting 5kb/s over here. so much for "internet weks".

asciilifeform: ( ~all flights to BingoBoingostan from usa, go through panama, typically with coupla hrs of sitting )

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 08:35 mp_en_viaje: anyone remember which trilema i delved into a discussion of the separation of pay / benefit and how it drives up costs ?

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's other ways to BingoBoingostan from USA, but the rest of the options are strictly inferior

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There is a direct Miami to Montevideo flight

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/06/monitors-report-in-quadracx-bankruptcy-reveals-a-clusterfuck/ << Qntra -- Monitor's Report In QuadraCX Bankruptcy Reveals A Clusterfuck

BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, the local government is appealing the ruling that said they have to sell the Graff Spee Eagle

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 14:56 asciilifeform wonders if they have 'прописка' in norway. i.e. where must Officially register place of residence with polizei erry time changing flats

mp_en_viaje: you have to register PHONE with polizei. literally, can get sim but will not work in any phone not sold in norway and can't have mobile in norway other than like typewriters in ye olde soviet lands.

BingoBoingo: Here you only gotta register with the local prefectura if you lack a place to live and wanna claim a corner

mp_en_viaje: that sounds very pre-secession us. "get a corner and a mule, gotta homestead it"

mp_en_viaje: anyway : my flight got delayed ; this marks the longest i ever spent in an airport

mp_en_viaje: just my luck it'd be the shittiest place this side of the equator

mp_en_viaje: in other lulz : they have reindeer pelts for sale in one of these revolting "souvenirs" to take home so as to pretend like norway isn't a complete shithole thatshould be glassed.. costs ~two pelts to pay for a cab ride to the airport.

BingoBoingo: Probably still top 5 on either side by your description. Place sounds like the oil was, like Qatar's... a serious misfortune

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919988 << nah, just bait & switch scamhotel / coupla managers. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 15:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919971 << lol, can't resist to ask, didja file complaint against whole city, for being fulla criminally insane lolcows ?

mp_en_viaje: incidentally : one should absolutely not trust any norwegian. assholes scam like they breathe ; i dunno why various africans have a bad reputation, i have literally never been scammed by a hotel before, ever.

mp_en_viaje: and i've been everywhere. norway first at something!

mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i suspect you might be very right re the oil. we used to think the problem ruining argentina was you know, heat. "it never freezes here, of course they're all bums". but norway freezes plenty -- so i kinda don't see the heat theory anymore.

mp_en_viaje: however, THIS they both had in common : circumstantial windfall, unearned wealth. the argentines with the ww2 debacle / the germans petting them throughout 19th century, and the nortards with the oil, obv.

BingoBoingo: The heat could still play a role in that Norgies get the heat for "Phree"

BingoBoingo: Both Argeis and Norgies seem to be heavy on the "Indoorsmanship"

mp_en_viaje: it;s a certain sort of unearned, really -- not ENTIRELY unearned. if it's out and out windfall you get passthrough economies like imperial spain or chad.

asciilifeform: naggum actually described, in ~exactly mp_en_viaje's terms

mp_en_viaje: but if it's "a little" earned you get us/argentina/norway. pompous assholes.

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i never read that part. is it on your site ?

asciilifeform: dunthinkso. but might be in the old archive, will look

mp_en_viaje will not go asking google to pretty please discharge some nibblets from the usenet archives it stole, in its own judgement. ☟︎

BingoBoingo awaits more chapters of "Nordic System" materializing on Trilema in the coming months http://trilema.com/the-nordic-system-a-new-novel-by-mircea-popescu

mp_en_viaje: not gonna do a fucking novel, i tell you that. i might put up the details re the bait & switch "hotel" / scam, but atm waiting to see what the police say and for report on list of various authorities that could be induced to inspect the shithole.

asciilifeform has had 'do 2nd pass through the naggum bones ' on conveyor backlog for nearly decade nao

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i also have been toying with the idea of doing a http://trilema.com/2012/filozoful-blogomirea-editie-revazuta-adaugita-si-completata/#selection-123.0-125.52 for a few years myself. "what'd happen to trilema if it reviewed itself ???"

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 15:02 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919928 << found very similar, actually, in panama

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:26 mircea_popescu: phf you can also book with a day+ layover in panama on your way back. for one thing you get to see the place and despise panama for good reason rather than by hearsay ; for the other flight over here is ~1hr ~every hour.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919994 << nah that's not it ; earlier piece, quite specifically discussing hospital economics. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 15:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-25#1919917 << >> http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#selection-251.0-261.55 .

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: my last pass through panama was esp. outrageous, they set up an impromptu baggage & pocket search queue ~on arrival from usa~ for no detectable reason

mp_en_viaje: usians are getting reamed pretty hard throughout yurp fwis, these days. way easier time being somali or something.

asciilifeform: prolly simple revenge for how folx landing in usa are abused.

asciilifeform: the oddity in panama was that they allocated neither space nor time for the thing, they set up ad hoc xray an' queue right where the shops are; and the procedure subtracted from the time to next plane

mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, the stock warrant thing, though interesting, not at all it.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pretty sure you had a piece re how handing out payola to lumpens results in $25 bottle of soda etc

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 17:45 mp_en_viaje will not go asking google to pretty please discharge some nibblets from the usenet archives it stole, in its own judgement.

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/06/verizon-bgp-fuckup-disrupted-us-internet-service-yesterday/ << Qntra -- Verizon BGP Fuckup Disrupted US Internet Service Yesterday

BingoBoingo: Anyways if it isn't one thing with the internet of shit it is another. Packet weather's one thing. But for all the derp about encrypting the DNS... routers routinely eat unsigned route batches

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg ministry of lulz is trying to push usgtronic 'pki' bgp. so, 1st gotta 'make weather', vandalize a bit, drum up interest.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways, this is a part of why router facing the world needs at least 8 gigs of RAM. Gotta hold ALL the IPv4 routing tables

asciilifeform: seems kinda braindamaged. all router really needs is 'next hop' on ea. side

BingoBoingo: Holding less than the full table increases dependence on the kindness of strangers

BingoBoingo: Regional backbone is a bit ambiguous. TMSR router at Pizarro by definition is just about going to have to be "regional backbone"

asciilifeform: considering that the table per se is sourced via 'kindness of strangers'...

asciilifeform: the net is ~entirely from duct tape, it's sorta surprising it even worx at all on most days.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-25 17:03 BingoBoingo: And in the perpetual Oslogentina https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/h-m-vendera-en-argentina-excedentes-de-stock-de-otros-mercados-201962512193 << Same day as http://trilema.com/2019/oslo-that-unredeemably-sad-shithole/#selection-149.0-155.86

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i told a cab driver the "going to moscow" pildulski joke.