pete_dushenski: fuck me it's getting cold already and it's not even sept. so much for global warming.
mircea_popescu: "transactions in blockchain currency" lmao. yaya tryin' really hard over there, i get it, i get it.
mircea_popescu: in other mainstream media news, "Join the great illuminati fatality cult today, I am agent Smith,A fully Agent of this fatality,i"
mod6: tomato platter spa treatment time
mod6: not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch
mod6: and i had about 5lbs of (previously frozen) tomatoes from last year was itching to use.
mod6: i suppose sanding the surfaces with the dremel would do the trick
mircea_popescu: lol reading this pim kim whatever thing is pretty amusing. crazed azn bitch is so fucking desperate to pretend she's in control, she "let" jessica go dontchaknow. honey, this experienced slaveowner sees right through you.
mircea_popescu: bonus points, what got her mind blown wasn't the team of dorks with nary a clue, but that "no one had a whiteboard session". cuz gotta be chinese, what.
mircea_popescu: they don't wash, fine, but she can't believe they don't own any ming hats!
mod6: trinque: nice! thanks :]
mod6: i used a sanding block with low grit, grinded each face both directions real good.
mod6: then blow torched 'em.
mod6: holy smokes. lol, that's all of em in one shot 'eh trinque?
trinque: mod6: yeah, that's why I stopped the presses for it
mod6: that's pretty sweet
mircea_popescu: "Earlier in the week I had taken screenshots of our Trello task board (Jessica was changing it around to make it look like I did nothing)" <<< ahahaha fucking idiot kids. "start-up", puts the motherloade of confidential/business matter on rando social media site. back at reality ranch, do that and you're fired, and you have to hire a lawyer. but in california idiot parade, they think it's about as standard as bottled water.
trinque: also, apparently the way to restart a111 is to give the www a good dicking?
trinque: makes a sort of primal sense
mircea_popescu: phf got a lot to learn about the practical side of these things it turns out.
mircea_popescu: laugh all you want at the lamp shitstack, but you can't take down qtra via wget
trinque: it's not the transfer rate limit; it's whether connection stays open longer than ping/pong maybe.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch << Give more time with the heat.
mircea_popescu: to clarify mod6 : the boiling in tomato juice is a joke/throwback to the old days, when this was the way to dispose of flexible disks (esp the 5 inch ones), where the magnetic zone stands on some cheapo plastic. hard drives haven't used that style of platter for many years now, it's usually doped glass these days. boiling that doesn't do much of anything, but you can just crack the platters with a hammer/wrench whatever.
mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method.
☟︎ mod6: thought there was something serious to the pH of the tomato sauce that would etch? the platters somewhat.
mod6: regardless, thanks for pointing that out.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and i'll implement these things even if phf's bot becomes more reliable or w/e, because, decentralization!1
☟︎ Framedragger: restarting machine which does the logging to double-check that things reconnect in case of power failure etc., too.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 05:16 mircea_popescu: the idea in both cases is that data storage depends on a very fixed relationship between geometry and magnetic substrate. breaking that (such as through boiling plastic, or cracking glass) is as good an approach as any "direct" method, and what's more stacks with any direct method.
Framedragger: (final thing - sending SIGKILL and seeing what happens
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: jackdaniel just submitted a working hack around the last showstopping McCLIM bug.
gabriel_laddel: This leaves 38 forms to be implemented, many of which are simply sitting in the (crappy) franz implementation
gabriel_laddel: If anyone wants to be WAY ahead of the curve, now would be the time to update your websites stating that you offer CLIM support / build CLIM programs aor start a marketing campaign.
gabriel_laddel: The tardstalks who put the "commercial support" section on the McCLIM website at the very end of a page for developers (lol:
https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/involve) will probably take several months to organize. They don't english very well, and someone who does will have quite the advantage.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:158/to:158#158 << it's not clear to me what "clim support" does for a website ; i am certainly not going to expend marketing resources on some item i don't own. this last bit is particularly pernicious, incidentally - is this clim thing even breaking the law ? why the fuck am i supposed to confuse a bunch of usg-tools for my own men ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's how this whole "online" thing worked for ever and ever : "corporate" creates a baited hook ; "consumer" mistakes baited hook for fish, gives his trust to google and his data to facebook. what am i, fucken retarded ?!
mircea_popescu: the odds of mistaking friend and foe to quite the degree should be evidently dismal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, so like, "electric car recharging" ? in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?
mircea_popescu: so how is this different from "in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?"
mircea_popescu: well generally, whitelabel is whenever one uses his own connections to market someone else's product as if it were his own.
mircea_popescu: ie, what supermarkets do with those "supermarket brand" items ; or what everyone on the internet does with their "expertise" etc.
mircea_popescu: the famous "no pirate exposure" pirate-era scams were in fact pirate whitelabels, to allow people to pretend etc.
mircea_popescu: it's useful in that it puts in stark contrast the business-idiocy of the whole tower.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform presumably he has something of value acquired somehow.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as a business strategy thing : throwing away 20k to see maybe a group of these "intelligent" retarded kids can get their shit together or not is one thing. oyu may do it or not, but if you do it it's because there's a definite cap on your exposure. even so - it'll be rare.
mircea_popescu: the notion of acquiring for free unbounded exposure to some group of online retards is mindboggling.
mircea_popescu: whenever any sort of association is not clearly defined. such as for instance in marriage.
mircea_popescu: if it's "ill give you 20 btc", then that's your cap. if it's "we'll do..." then you're lost.
mircea_popescu: everywhere. do you understand words ? they have meanings. you do not get to alter that, change domains, anything. everywhere means absolutely and without exception everywhere.
mircea_popescu: i can't possibly comprehend why simple logic is so hard in practical application, but. unless he says "gimme 20 btc", what he says is "marry me". there are no possible, understand ~possible~ exceptions to this.
mircea_popescu: "if you're not the customer you're the product" "oh yeah, i understand that now" "no you don't" "o look, i hadn't understood it". either you pay, or else you're getting married. these are the options. stop confusing yourself.
mircea_popescu: the eternal male fantasy of the "free sex", "hook-up", whatever. this is how they use you to build the pyramids, you realise.
mircea_popescu: dude... do you bring the same arguments re thermodynamics ? "yeah, heat so and so, but this is unconnected"
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "unconnected" even mean, sovereign from physics laws ?
Framedragger: OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book?
mircea_popescu: there is no "connect plox", and there is no "unconnected". they exist. that's it.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger for a small thing like that which will stay small you're best served by spitting out html.
mircea_popescu: wp theme is good spcifically if you want the same thing over many pages, comment box, post box etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you're probably right. problem is, site may need to be expanded later, and i hate re-doing work. but, you're probably right, in the end...
mircea_popescu: Framedragger then stop lying to yourself and draw the design spec correctly.
mircea_popescu: you lot have a lot in common with adolescent girls, you know this ?
Framedragger: well my last gf turned out to be sorta-adolescent, so i'm using osmosis as excuse
mircea_popescu: incidentally, you know that's how they get wet, right ?
Framedragger: ahh. thanks for the picture. guess you're right
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness : common lisp has managed to shackle an otherwise very intelligent, competent fellow to the position he scored so bad on his tests he got flunked. this is no small performance, seeing how universally reviled and properly bad solutions do not have the sort of problem.
mircea_popescu: the republican experience with lisp to date is very sorry indeed.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: a sharp knife will do that, yes. the cursed sword of japan also.
mircea_popescu: "the Mist plateau is famous for its thick fogs and beautiful women"... wouldn't you expect this not to be the case ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the original issue, what exactly is supposed to protect gabriel's present infatuation from being applebaum'd in the arbitrary future ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (pro tip, if your idea is "but mp, tor was actually built by nsa, this thing is just built by some random poor people" you lose at life. what the fuck, the socialists observe propriety lines now ? the whole world was made by their hunchback of a god and gave to them as a gift dontchaknow.)
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, girl is sister of guy who i play poker with
danielpbarron: gabriel should make his case to get listed on mpex
thestringpuller: depends on if he's a nuclear physicist pretending to be a plumber or vice versa.
mircea_popescu: i have just about 0 interest in working for any of the various cans of usg soup. pre tmsr, i actually didn't work much if at all, and in retrospect i understand it's for this exact reason.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it ever took me more than a few days to pay for a month of costa rica or whatever, and this if i was particularly persuaded by the "don't eat from capitals" balabusta angle that month.
mircea_popescu: in contrast, for the past SIX FUCKING YEARS i've been pulling 100 hour weeks like nobody's business.
mircea_popescu: and if we count those hours at the 100k estimate, tmsr did more for increasing worldwide productivity than feminism.
mircea_popescu: that's the other problem there. motivation of random retard - from fear, firecracker, from interest, nuke. when you go above 95 on the iq scale, what the everloving fuck are you going to put in your firecracker even.
mircea_popescu: there's two married exponentials at work here, and the 2nd's even more abrupt.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron does sister of friend want to see buenos aires ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't trust his decision. that's the point : under 110 or so, you are well advised to not even think about making these sorts of calls.
mircea_popescu: this of course comes with a corresponding responsibility of smart people to not be fucking retards, but hey.
mircea_popescu: wage worker grandmaster ? what's this, like engineering ?
mircea_popescu: look, it's not my fault that a) they misapplied the model and b) you bought into it.
mircea_popescu: it only exists because of jwz training of smart kids, making them want to "cleave" brains and responsibility.
mircea_popescu: the whole capitalism / industrialism model works on the following principle : idiots (by which we mean virtually everyone) are overwhelmed by the complexity of reality, and so resort to societal heuristics. such as you know, "religion", or else "all girls" agreeing that sucking cock is gross in 9th grade and that only farmhands and mongoloids wouldn't do it in 12th grade. these heuristics are weak, and an intelligent guy can
mircea_popescu: find a much better blueprint in circumscribed circumstances than the heuristic would provide (the circumstance has to always be limited because otherwise complexity explosion - which yields the principal problem of capitalism, ie disintergration (as the term of art)).
mircea_popescu: now then. giving intelligent people a tool to break idiots from the social fold (ie, money) results in all sorts of minimums off the wealth-curve (very much like the schroedinger equation, this) being cut off, resulting in more money, resulting in more ships, resulting in conquering china.
mircea_popescu: this is the whole premise of capitalism : dear retard, don;'t listen to what the priest says to do ; but listen to what the rich guy says to do.
mircea_popescu: this model is built on some axioms. one of which is "dumb people". not smart people. the moment you turn around and try to apply it to engineers you plainly demonstrate you have absolutely no connection to the people who come up with this, but merely cargo cultist, following motions.
mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled the wealth curve either, nor the ships and conquer china.
mircea_popescu: they are not cancellable at all ; not even in the same way plants are cancellable.
mircea_popescu: no, more in the sense of "now they'll either wear suits or come up with complicated arguments as to why they aren't, because either way they very deeply care".
mircea_popescu: let's read together from
http://trilema.com/2016/mochila-o-muerte/ : "many of the most beautiful Jewesses – adults and adolescents, some already naked and others in various states of undress – came out of the ghetto ~on their own volition~ and ~~~offered themselves~~~."
mircea_popescu: history of china throughout the 1900s is exactly this : came out of ghetto, of own volition, and offered self.
mircea_popescu: the experience is, of course, massively beneficial. moreover, it's also the only way.
mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: tell you what, contrary to what russian speakers thought, soviet union contained no engineers, no teachers, naught else. just whores.
mircea_popescu: some whores who knew they were whores, and some whores who wasted their life pretending they aren't whores.
mircea_popescu: heh. wait till you get into the "i'm an webentrepreneurdesignmarketing" like pim kim what's her face.
mircea_popescu: the real deals walk the same information superhighway as everyone else.
mircea_popescu: "oh but if i had a better car then definitely gf", sayz elliot. and i'm sure he's right hurr.
mircea_popescu: lawbreaker (unrepentant) at least provides personal history to back up his independence claim.
mircea_popescu: nah, they had ports throughout - the indian ocean for the portuguese ; the atlantic for the english.
mircea_popescu: and honestly, if i lived in 1700 i'd have lived in pirate port
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 15:24 mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!"
mod6: the dr i went to see the other day had to be 350 lbs.
mod6: she took this blood sample from a "spider bite" of some sort on my hip, dropped it on the floor.
mod6: needless to say, I had to fetch it for her.
mod6: anyway, she seemed at least smart enough to take the sample and perscibe some antibiotics.
mod6: but hard to take such a person srsly.
mod6: asciilifeform: i dunno. she gingerly tried to bleed me.
mod6: i was like, "don't be afraid to squeeze that thing hard."
mod6: so, then she gave me 20% more.
mod6: SQUEEZE THAT THING LADY
mod6: lol, naw. just standard lumberjack/hockey player.
mircea_popescu: "phlebotomist kit is this here submarine hatch. problem ?"
mod6: i sure as hell didn't wanna have to go back there though for lack of a "good sample".
mircea_popescu: iirc they were pretty big on the whole compartimentalization thing.
mircea_popescu: it's not a thoroughly unreasonable way to go about it, "what if we spring a leak ?"
mircea_popescu: also because oxygen has to be imported, so to speak, it's very efficient firefighting. how long can it burn ? well, while air lasts.
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531833 << there are two orthogonal items here. one is the sanity of the language, which begets the brevity Framedragger observed in my code. the second is whether the implementation of that language has been *used* widely enough to expose it to the great filter.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 13:53 mircea_popescu: ah trinque was also on lisp huh. there is that.
trinque: it is apparent to me that sbcl has.
trinque: but having said that, LAMP should not be idly tossed aside. it has seen the world.
deedbot: g_l voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 14:01 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the original issue, what exactly is supposed to protect gabriel's present infatuation from being applebaum'd in the arbitrary future ?
g_l: If you don't want the font engine crap, make a new font engine. This is very much doable by a single man.
g_l: asciilifeform: I bitched about the two showstopping errors and gas2serra stepped in and solved the first, and is in the process of solving the second.
g_l: You can trigger an error that kills the connection to the X server, forcing you to restart the whole lisp image.
g_l: The other was that text from one application would show up in another when running many applications.
g_l: asciilifeform: the second to last post
g_l: The "text ghosting" issue has been fixed. We (finally) have a quality test case for the final error.
g_l: When fixed one can program entirely in CLIM. I've fixed up the debugger to eval in frame, added a 'reflective apropos'
g_l: Via an output-record (object that has been presented)?
g_l: yes, there is MAP-OVER-OUTPUT-RECORDS-OVERLAPPING-REGION or some such
g_l: Though I have not used it.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 19:28 fluffypony: stealth addresses provide unlinkability, ring signatures provide untraceability
Framedragger: why the fuck is everything a honeypot to you. the technology is interesting for what it's worth. they're leveraging i2p which is interesting if not unquestionable. iirc fluffypony is the project lead list
Framedragger: lol "bitcoin jesus". yea well. people flock, it's what they do
davout: asciilifeform: if you see a lump of steel covered in flies, you brush the flies off and go use that steel for whatever it is you need steel for, no?
davout: yeah sure, but that's kind of different from saying 'sucks because roger ver'. ver probably used the bitcoin client before it was set in stone for trb
Framedragger: asciilifeform: trb and mpex don't make themselves easy to be used by everyone. which YES is a great thing. but it's not because an angelic light shines upon them, repelling all evil.
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox!
davout: i remember already reading this monero thread actually
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book? << Toolbox. Just delete the comment boxes and other shit. Small theme so easy to fidn everything you want/need to delete.
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> depends on if he's a nuclear physicist pretending to be a plumber or vice versa. << More plumbers lay hand on reactor parts than physicists
davout: the problem i have with monero is the bloat and uncapped block size, not really the crypto itself
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> wage worker, whether idiot or grandmaster, is still stuck 'only following orders.' << /me suspects alf is far removed from actual reality of wage cattle herding on the ground.
deedbot: g_l voiced for 30 minutes.
g_l: If anyone wants to do something easy and useful: drop into #clim and or #lisp and pester beach (robert strandh) to add bounties for implementing the remaining 38 CLIM forms and solving the last showstopping error.
g_l: he operates on an idiot "social consensus" algo
g_l: well, I got a (major) donor to pester him and suddenly all the talk of "backends" disappeared.
g_l: If you're not interested in CLIM, don't bother. I'm not here to convince you of its utility.
g_l: I don't know how you expect to get there without going through a complete CLX backend first.
g_l: for the rest of you lispers who have used and like CLIM,
g_l: my bitching already took them (people working on CLIM, nyef, jackdaniel, gas2serra, etc) from "clim on the web, on the playstation, ncurses, gtk!" to "alrighty, let's finish CLX first", and they just need a little bit more of a push. Beach in particular, as he controls the funds
BingoBoingo: <mod6> but hard to take such a person srsly. << Because not a person but a hog.
deedbot: g_l voiced for 30 minutes.
g_l: For the record: I totally underestimated the amount of support there was out there for a 100% CL GUI.
g_l: because I'm homeless and have 3 closed bank accounts, money locked in paypal etc etc etc etc
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: fwiw, i've never been anything other than wage cattle << Then yeah. You've been the wrong kind.
g_l: They did it all on their own btw. I thought crowdfunding was a terrible idea.
thestringpuller: g_l: Oh yea. If you are in southeast region I can prob fix the homeless problem temporarily.
g_l: thestringpuller: being "homeless" in palo alto / atherton / sf / los altos / san jose is not the same thing as in the rest of the country. Am OK, just awful internet and other nonsense.
g_l: thestringpuller: thank you though. Much appreciated.
deedbot: umoguny voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: ah! thanks for the suggestion. btw did you have any particular grievances with the supposed heir of Toolbox, _s?
Framedragger:
https://github.com/Automattic/_s/ - allegedly it's da modern super minimalist theme with minimal css that one is supposed to hack on. toolbox (marked as 'retired', which doesn't really mean that) on themes.wordpress.org links to _s
BingoBoingo: Well, toolbox was retired because it was the final word on WP themes and they needed makework? What more is there to say on the subject?
Framedragger: very possibly that's the reason, no disagreement here. it fucking does the job, and has no shitty m0dern gimmicks.
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Framedragger: damn. www itself is utf-8 proper, but the source of the log (znc) reports that long hyphen as byte 0x96, for whatever reason. this then gets rendered as �. i think i won't dig into znc's mysteries as i'll be planning to move to a different log format anyway (everything to be stored in db for proper search, etc.)
Framedragger: btcbase and log.b-a go back to the same date (26th april 2013)
Framedragger: meaning, i won't be doing anything with the full logs (assuming that's what you mean by the artefact) today
Framedragger: (btw btcbase's irc line IDs do start with 1, so i guess they are sorta deterministic)
mircea_popescu: – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – v
mircea_popescu: this is the weirdest shit. so all these display as dashes on my system : both yours, and mine.
Framedragger: no wait. wait wait. btcbase's log displays them as dashes. my irc client displays them as questionmarks. that original dash - i'd assumed it was a dash from btcbase's log, i now surmise. i get questionmark in irc
Framedragger: no i copy pasted that from btcbase log, the dumb fella that i am
Framedragger: "(9:29:01 PM) mircea_popescu: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? v"
mircea_popescu: the first is copied from my own quote, the second from your own quote.
mircea_popescu: this is some wtf level voodoo here. i have nfi why they called it utf
Framedragger: does, uh, your irc client add a spurious byte just for kicks, or wtf. hm. i also know there are multiple long hyphens / shorter dashes in unicode, maybe some of them don't get recognized by these shit systems
Framedragger: yeah at least kirilica works. (though vi displays that as [23:34:11] <asciilifeform> бÐ<9d>Ð<9e>Ð<9f>Ð<9d>Я Ð<92>ХРЮÐ<9a>? (tm) (r) because why not)
Framedragger (admits to barely be able to read .ru. can slowly articulate, and sometimes map to meanings)
mircea_popescu: ah. well, this very similar problem the russkis had in the 90s.
Framedragger: echo 'Вопрос' | iconv -t cp1251 | iconv -f koi8-r
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the joke with the menstruating she-bear and the animals in the forest ?
mircea_popescu: rabbit is very very sad, because bear is on period, and well...
mircea_popescu: bloomberg was itching to say "forget bitcoin" no fucking matter what.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, the worst thing that can happen to you is for your project to be leading the next sentence. but hey, the world is so cruel.
trinque: BingoBoingo: it spouted them
mircea_popescu: what, was it a cannonball someone shot into a warship made of solid fly wood ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, "the technology" is rather uninteresting inasmuch as the project lead deliberately avoided presenting it to the republic, in spite of being invited to do so twice.
mircea_popescu: so no, prima facie the guy knows the whole thing's dumb.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so it would seem that your irc client *may* be using Windows-1252, because 0x96 in Windows-1252 appears to be – (EN-DASH). but, i'm realllly not sure, because, encoding hell. moving on to other stuff...
trinque: wtf next tier past "design decision" is imagined there?
Framedragger: yeah, well, i may be underestimating the importance of such a 'design decision', in truth.
mircea_popescu: also, i never new before how much i loved the bot reading out the contents of log lines.
Framedragger: (yeah i need to finish off a website because i promised to a relative, foolishly, now i gather. because some dude's flying and they need it right nao!!1 and gave promise. such is life)
mircea_popescu: lol. hey, you're young, but at least not homeless! could have it worse.
Framedragger: (ah, i only now figured that g_l == gabriel laddel)
mircea_popescu: let's not forget that the imbecile silk road guy actually told cops that "anyone could have sent him fake ids because there existrs silk road". the smoked out elliot rodger generation actually thinks this way.
trinque: could be some other homeless lispmonger
mircea_popescu: possibly the most precarious attempt to spin plates conceivable.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's pure happenstance there's no cbs headlines about "Hussein Bahamas the Gay Prostitute" and such.
mircea_popescu: well, sure. the more interesting aspect : pure usg fabrication. like the other two.
mod6: ok, so I have this offline build script ready to go.
mod6: and I'm gonna put it out there shortly. but just got a long distance in a short a mount of time working on these makefiles today.
mod6: so it might be moot, soon.
mod6: i'm a bit conflicted; but it might still be some work until the makefiles are fully baked.
mod6: oh, and with those turn of the century disks; after grinding them down with the sanding block -- they're like solid aluminum. so i cut them into tiny pieces with these: