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mp_en_viaje: i still don;t perceive the difference between above quited john d. and historical curtis y, or tucker m. or etc. this may be a failure of my differentiator, but w/e.

a111: Logged on 2013-04-30 01:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on the death of academia: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-navrozov-moments.html (moldbug)

asciilifeform remembers the roosh-v d00d, but for something quite else, iirc it was him who at one pt had asciilifeform's www linked as -- insultingly but lulzily -- 'the mencius moldbug of computing'

mircea_popescu: actually... he's about exactly everything moldbug. except older version = better read.

asciilifeform: this was implicit in the 'anarchotyranny' label, which i stole from somebody or other (moldbug?) where it was described how a predator-prey equilibrium is carefully maintained by usg

mircea_popescu: of course it is. 100% of "discussing" "events" "news" and "politics" is this. what else is orlov, moldbug, wha have you ?

mircea_popescu: eh, still rehashing the http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ moldbug talking points ? what is he, 3rd hand pinoy, they only let him have the dead leads ?

asciilifeform: moldbug et al had their own version of this ( https://archive.is/f0siO << asciilifeform's lispified take on it )

erlehmann: i often have the problem that i describe a position and then people think i support it. i stopped describing moldbug's ramblings because of that, though i find urbit in particular a quite good idiot test.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the naming convention (moldbug, marlinspike, etcetera) suggests someone in an office farm in maryland./

erlehmann: asciilifeform maybe moldbug imagined himself steve jobs, who also sometimes lied brazenly.

asciilifeform: lulzy comments, also, e.g., 'While I don’t think he’s a “white supremacist” as such “off-line” in his essays under the pseudonym Moldbug, the travails of Curtis Yarvin as a pure hacker are illuminating, to the point I’m pretty sure they’ve killed any chance his Urbit might have in the so called marketplace of ideas.'

ben_vulpes: the memory fabricator is in full swing over here. wants to say that it was a tome that fell out of a moldbug piece but i really have nfi.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581200 << "moxie" is not much of a name. /me would have never even seriously considered "moldbug" had intel not identified pw:rn to go with it. ☝︎

asciilifeform: this hammer hit me in the face the first time around (as a young man, when i had notions of actually making a living in that field, and recoiled in disgust, having encountered something quite similar to what is described in tarver's and moldbug's essays)

asciilifeform: sorta like if somebody took moldbug's suggestion of digging up and reinstating the stewart monarchy somehow

decimation: TheNewDeal: I have no problem with catholics, but what's not obvious from what I pasted is that moldbug is making a point about being submerged in a particular point of view from birth

decimation: TheNewDeal: it's mencius moldbug: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/04/case-against-democracy-ten-red-pills.html

asciilifeform: ^ speaking of which, brings back to the point of whether mr mold is a disinfo agent. not that i can say definitively, but imho the best argument that he is not, is the difficulty of formulating a picture of a hypothetical 'moldbug minus the restraint' who does ~not~ advocate inaction

decimation: asciilifeform: I kinda arrived at this thesis from a theological perspective earlier, which is also why moldbug appealed

asciilifeform: moldbug, i will point out, speaks not one language save his native engl. that he was able to reconstruct even a semblance of coherent picture of anything while sitting in the anglo junkyard, is remarkable by itself

decimation: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives.html < moldbug mentions here

decimation: mircea_popescu: I think that was after moldbug's article

decimation: cazalla: it's like someone read moldbug but was unable to comprehend the parts about how this kind of action is hopeless

decimation: the best I can tell usian muggles exhibit 'learned helplessness' that moldbug writes about

decimation: sure, but that's a distinction between 'a state' and 'the modern structure' (as moldbug would put it)

decimation: lol story on what happened with moldbug's "uninvitation" was censored on hacker news http://hnrankings.info/9674992/

danielpbarron: >> Glad to see Moldbug now gone from the @strangeloop_stl speaker list. I'm sure he wouldn't have been there at all if they'd known about him.

decimation: of course, as moldbug said, actual nazis would ahve been horrified by these guys

mircea_popescu: (as the above explanation, consider moldbug's very valid discussion of the guy with the ring that could kill. he who is secure in his authority makes excellent leadership. he who is not - horribru)

decimation: asciilifeform: and I agree with moldbug - it is long in the tooth

decimation: as I recall moldbug once linked to some pretty convincing evidence re:ayers wrote obama's autobiography

decimation: well, moldbug would say that the improvement was that there was an actual human the da 'was responsible' to

decimation: re: the gray journal: vintage moldbug > "Of course, they can't do much. You can't submit to the gray journal. There is no formal review process. You simply have to know someone who knows someone who... and who is on the end of this chain? Five or ten very ordinary people, with no particular expertise in anything, perhaps a BA in some science or other. Who happen to have gotten themselves assigned, through whatever feat of

decimation: moldbug would say that pinker would gladly suck the cock of a nyt writer so he can be published in the 'grey lady'

decimation: well, munger comes to the same conclusion as moldbug, that is usg is highly resistant to voting - because to be otherwise would be terrifying

decimation: moldbug has a quote that implicates FDR in covering for the soviets for Katyn

decimation: moldbug thought the us would jail exchanges/possessors, but usg lost the initiative on that one

decimation: I like moldbug's theory: those 'with a brain' are generally engaged in spending all their time battling each other

mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> he posts a ton of extremely ambitious ideas i'd love to see him come through on one of them << you have to understand this is now, thanks to moldbug et all, an internet pose.

decimation: moldbug has a post about why central banks spend most of their time trying to figure out how to not move the market

decimation: adlai: recently i've become a fan of arvo pärt (yes, via moldbug)

mircea_popescu: i see the guy's been pouring out a coupla million words, which is more than moldbug, but i won't be bothering to actually read the shit, it's too stale.

decimation: generally, my understanding is that 'paleoconservatives' want to wind us society back to something resembling the 'cis-democracy' in that moldbug peice

decimation: asciilifeform: most of them would agree with moldbug's analysis that they believe paying tax is 'i gave at the office'

decimation: asciilifeform: but the 'plum book wot' isn't really going to modify what the career bureaucrats think, see moldbug

decimation: moldbug had a piece on this, then tried to invent some 'tarded 'antiversity' thing

decimation: moldbug would say that this wound provides infinite employment for nulands

decimation: moldbug repurposed (re-re-repurposed?) the word "brahmin" to mean something like 'modern liberal elite'

mircea_popescu: the_scourge: wait, are you suggesting that socialism isn't part of The Cathedral? << a) "the cathedral" is about as solid a concept as moldbug's new os.

the_scourge: trinque: ok, having experienced both, i'm pretty sure old moldbug is a much better mindfuck

decimation: I think moldbug captured the picture well: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#782110 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#782111 ☝︎☝︎

the_scourge: or shayetet13 - i wasn't young or patriotic ... and i wasn't when i got a good slot in the british military. i was having the same thoughts as moldbug, but instead of blogging about it i decided to become as deadly as possible in as short amount of time as possible

asciilifeform: although his colleague, 'heartiste', once referred to yours truly as 'the moldbug of computer science'

decimation: aye, it was moldbug's

decimation: I remember when moldbug put up his first 'begging' post - it was obvious the gig was up

mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal most of what the man ever writes is golden. and unlike derps like moldbug or orlov, he a) isn't putting annoyingly self-advertising and b) doesn't actually have a pro-state agenda

decimation: http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1713275,00.html < from moldbug's article

mircea_popescu: cause idiot females too busy with "transgender friends" and idiot males too busy reading moldbug.

decimation: really, moldbug 'needs' at least a few $bil to make hardware

decimation: asciilifeform: moldbug hasn't make something 'useful' of urbit yet?

decimation: moldbug's analogy if I recall is a fisherman saving fish

decimation: moldbug's theory is that this is derived from game theory, in the sense that every actor wants to pick the best savings medium, which is the thing that everyone else is planning to save in

decimation: adlai: there's some degree of that, but money also acts as an asset. In moldbug's terms, it's the 'bubble that never pops'

decimation: I don't think what we do here is 'moldbug studies' but I think the channel is at friendly to some of his conclusions

decimation: sorry for the moldbug link, but he sums it up well: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/actual-letter-to-liberal-friend.html << "Peasants see a patron-client relationship between the gentlemen and the varlets - a relationship not at all unlike the late Roman relationship of _clientela_, where a patrician measured his social status by the vast army of plebeians that battened on his trenches. Again, what to the

decimation: Think of it in “Lux Aeterna" as moldbug would say. The interesting thing really is to examine this completely artificial crisis - who benefits?

asciilifeform: i tentatively buy moldbug's argument that this is a specifically christian atavism (the hindus, for instance, make no such exception, and cheerfully proclaim that one is quite likely to 'reincarnate' as a bacterium)

asciilifeform: i suppose this was inevitable. the moldbug generation wants to run for u.s. office...

mircea_popescu: johntraveller chan's kinda on the fence re moldbug. you can search for him to get the various discussions if you care.

johntraveller: http://akarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dark-enlightenment-map-1-5.png < kinda. a bunch of pre-existing online communities started to find each other, and moldbug was a key node in that graph

johntraveller: so moldbug/yarvin was a typical california libertarian who dropped a lot of acid

decimation: it's pretty much a crypto-rehash of moldbug's red/blue distinction but written to appeal to liberals