mircea_popescu: you know, somebody should do this as a service. comic strip summarizer. watch them all, pick the i dunno, 1% worth a chuchle.
lobbes: Took me all weekend, but I am now in control of my own IRC bouncer. Now to configure it properly...
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> no adderall is pretty much meth << Not even a proper amphetamine
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> no adderall is pretty much meth << SOrry thought you said Ritalin. Adderal is a racemic mixture of Levo and Dex amphetamines. The levo reduces the "abuse potential"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'll let BingoBoingo explain how one has faster blood-brain penetration than other, lipid solubility, etc. << Methyl group makes it have a greater affinity for particular subsets of norepinephrine and dopamine receptors. For some reason the methyl group makes it more toxic to neurons in the long run
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $30 before April"
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55950 @ 0.00040087 = 22.4287 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: "For all intents and purposes, it is reasonable to assume that all of DARPA’s customers already use computers in their work. Furthermore, they have been using computers for years. They have developed their own procedures and policies that are not conveniently switched to a different operating environment at the drop of a hat. And they are all using Windows. They are all using Windows because it is the superior choice for Intel-h
BingoBoingo: ardware operating systems for naïve users. The reason, however, is irrelevant, because the fact remains that users are using Windows."
BingoBoingo: "This dilemma is particularly strong for researchers in the areas of operating systems and networking, two areas in which Windows NT is considered to be especially weak. With DARPA project lifetimes typically in the two- or three-year range, PIs must swallow hard before agreeing to take two giant steps back in order to begin their research on a Windows NT technology base."
mircea_popescu: if somebody still has a twitter account, be a kitten tweet my last @maigov to see some really embarassed romanian police.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, much of the meth toxixity literature is from 1940's and 1950's when it was prefered USG go pill before being replaced by gentler amphetamines
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Perhaps, but it would be very un-USG of the era to not be running trials in parallel with minimal disclosure
mircea_popescu: anyway, the general point here being : we investigate too.
mircea_popescu: dude, don't tell me stories. policeman thinks 120% is koshert ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the so called "Departamentul de Informaţii şi Protecţie Internă" ie, informations & internal protection dept is the biggest loser here.
mircea_popescu: rural policeman reported the attempted bribe by some guy that cut 1.7 cubic meters of wood illegally.
mircea_popescu: not so simple. the chick at the end, kovesi ? she's fanatical.
mircea_popescu: and the LAST thing she's looking for tuesday mornings is seeing her name on my blog in that context.
mircea_popescu: only impossible outcome here is, for idiot policemen to stop being defrauded like redditards.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28178 @ 0.00039326 = 11.0813 BTC [-] {2}
nanotube: <nanotube> once that system is operational, integrating multiple federated databases will be trivial and will involve no trust.
mircea_popescu: federated wots best way to un-centralize this problem, i believe.
nanotube: yea not quite the full fancypants xml-wot from the ideal world, but this will go most of the way and be much more likely to actually happen.
BlueMeanie4: so who thinks bitcoin is going to crash further?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 221.08, Best ask: 221.27, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 221.29, 24 hour volume: 18423.98029392, 24 hour low: 215.0, 24 hour high: 225.0, 24 hour vwap: 219.323476828
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85700 @ 0.00040567 = 34.7659 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87450 @ 0.0004068 = 35.5747 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00039038 = 18.8163 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: I think gox falsely propped it up to the previous ath, not to say anything about a possibility of return to said prices
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Well I think there was some Gox/China synergy.
BlueMeanie4: its starting to become clear that the whole thing was a ponzi to begin with
cazalla: BlueMeanie4, gox or bitcoin?
BlueMeanie4: then somewhere between '13 and '14 they want batshit insane about all these other ideas
IHB: can i get some feedback on something i am writing guys?
cazalla: IHB, i can give you some feedback on your site design instead if you like? 2.0 type shit sucks
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You ever try reading coinfire on Mobile? We're kicking their ass on pnoHe friendly layout nao
cazalla: IHB, i mean, i gotta use 3 finger scrolls to get to the meat of it.. i don't even give the missus that much
IHB: i haven't had time and lot of changes are being pushed through. was working on an api that will be launched with it. hopefully it will be useful
IHB: ok, this is still a WIP, but i want to make sure i understand
IHB: @petertoddbtc @trilema @oocBlog @BryceWeiner @JustusRanvier @fredwilson @balajis In regards to scalability and the perceived threat facing the bitcoin ecosystem I am still not convinced we have a problem here. Gavin has been talking about this for a little while now and it shouldn’t surprise anyone of us that he is publicly trying to get a proposal ready so the full nodes can vote on it. 1. If 80% of the full nodes v
cazalla: BingoBoingo, could be worse
BingoBoingo: IHB: That tweet is from ??? about ? hard to squeeze meaningful context into that space
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i read you have like 100k of those pogos eh
mircea_popescu: but in any case, "votes" by bs nodes with < 90% uptime is pointless.
IHB: i am posting a draft write now
BingoBoingo: IHB: Just remember if you post a big draft for review before going up on your site, Google index's pastebins aggressively, Dpaste not so much.
mircea_popescu: the concept of voting re bitcoin is not unlike the concept of voting re sex.
mircea_popescu: sure, 9 out of 10 people enjoy themselves at any gangbang.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't mean me and eight other dudes get to vote on how to use gavin's wife.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00040688 = 8.6869 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo:
http://trilema.com/ has threatened to bring the house down and if he is successful, then so be it. << IHB you prolly want to link MPEx.co as the actor and particular trilema pieces justifying the MPEx position
mircea_popescu: as a general rule : strike out all paragraphs that contain the pronoun "I" see what's left.
cazalla: IHB, this is your scratch pad eh?
IHB: not everyone is as talented as you when it comes to words [feces]
mircea_popescu: also, the paywall on trilema is a) older than bitcoin and b) older than the new york time's.
BingoBoingo: he recently put a btc paywall on his personal blog. << IHB been around multiple years. Since early 2013 when I finally started talking to people.
mircea_popescu: it's in fact the first paywall on any content site on the internet.
IHB: i never ran into it until today
BingoBoingo: I believe the 1mb limit was only put in out of fear to protect us from a potential attack. << Was explicitly put in place to make attacks by bloating the blockchain uneconomical
IHB: <+mircea_popescu> i never got the address to send the .01 BTC
IHB: so if we don't have the cap it is possible for a miner to load blocks up with spam? and this in turn will weaken the network?
mircea_popescu: first time i got a report like this, so mebbe wait and see ? mebbe your mail server's slow ?
IHB: won't it cost a lot of money to do that?
mircea_popescu: today it's not a particularly valuable dos attack on bitcoin because whatever, 1mb blocks.
mircea_popescu: if they end up being larger, it becomes more of an attack. if they're large enough, sure, you can deny usage of the network this way.
IHB: well, i am glad i had a reason to be confused
BingoBoingo: IHB: And the thing is it is a one time cost to the attacker to attack by committing bloat
mircea_popescu: very cheap way to attack the gavincoin, too. 20-1 = 19, so then each day costs an extra
mircea_popescu: 2.67 gb a day extra. whatever that costs, every node is stuck with it.
mircea_popescu: and there's obviously no defense. valid txn will be relayed.
IHB: i can't weigh in with my opinion. i will leave up to you guys. my stomach tells me the blocksize should not be raised and if people want to do other stuff they can peg their btc to a sidechain, if that ever becomes reality.
IHB: i would be happy just holding my bitcoin. but only if there was a way to get all this other stuff done, you know the stuff we call bloat
IHB: like washing machines talking to cars
IHB: and government schemes in india being run on some sort of chain
BingoBoingo: <IHB> i can't weigh in with my opinion. i will leave up to you guys. my stomach tells me the blocksize should not be raised and if people want to do other stuff they can peg their btc to a sidechain, if that ever becomes reality. << Not an unreasonable thing. Settlement happens on the blockchain small amounts dick around on distraction chain.
IHB: humans have already fucked with this planet we are in our own epoch Anthropence
cazalla: IHB, why do you want your car to talk to your washing machine instead of your wife?
mircea_popescu buys ballgag factory shares. cleary there's a future for these.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, no no, wife talk to washing machine
jurov: maybe he meant carwash?
cazalla: please just let me take solace in the one fucking thing my missus can do right
mircea_popescu: jurov for lulz, masina = machine is how you say car in romanian.
assbot: #239 - Return Without Gosub Error
BingoBoingo: jurov: Commenting out that section of main.cpp you highlighted and making a junk public alert key turned into a build of 0.8.6 that's been running fine for about 20 hours nao
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i haven't / don't intend to because a) anyone who can grasp the abstraction already knows it ; b) anyone likely to benefit from the description probably can't read.
assbot: Mouser Sells Classic 6502 "Antique" Processor
BingoBoingo: <assbot> Mouser Sells Classic 6502 "Antique" Processor << If they cranked it to 1.5 GHz+ would be more excited
BingoBoingo: For some tasks bus size isn't such a big deal.
jurov: lol at 15nm process the die would prolly come out few micrometers across
BingoBoingo: <jurov> lol at 15nm process the die would prolly come out few micrometers across << Also this.
BingoBoingo: Just imagine a palm sized box with rs-232 and the entire 1980's inside
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It does when your need to breach the border with your contraband in your breech
gribble: Current Blocks: 342797 | Current Difficulty: 4.44554159623438E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 344735 | Next Difficulty In: 1938 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 10 hours, 9 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 51193758211.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.15753
assbot: #243 - America's Testes Kitchen 1
jurov: from romania, haven't you heard about Mcoin machines?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29032 @ 0.00039168 = 11.3713 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> also, the paywall on trilema is a) older than bitcoin and b) older than the new york time's. << how did you take payment before btc?
assbot: Catre Ministerul Afacerilor Interne. In atentia d-lor Gheorghe Nicolae, Petre Toba, Bondar Marin si d-nei Laura Codruța Kövesi : Dvs stiati ca angajatii dvs se ocupa cu frauda pe Internet ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i had a whole digg thing for the .ro market, ran on "credits", backed by paypal.
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
assbot: Shooting Assbot - The air ride group Wiki
mircea_popescu: btw, someone edit that wiki page to reflect the assbot wotness ? who got perms ?
bitcoinquestions: mircea_popescu: alright I'm on it, also you asked me what I thought of b-a before I got disconnected - it's a breath of fresh air from the mass stupidity
ben_vulpes: by the way, isn't it amusing how the_scourge got instanuked, but the outright derps keep getting upped?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Who was that pauper on your blogroll with the great eMacs text. Debate tournament judging text finally cleared and I'm ready to splurge on paytext.
mircea_popescu: generally derpage doesn't get nuked until it becomes militantly stupid. bluemeanie got nuked earlier.
ben_vulpes: granted my neural filter kicked in pretty quickly, so my integral probably didn't wind up like yours.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Last mention of him here you suggested might be acutely starving? Had a big guide to emacs.
ben_vulpes: what, you're the most easily suckered into epic privlogs
ben_vulpes: i toy with my prey, but that's not the same thing.
assbot: Let us translate. From English to English. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is actually a never-before encountered problem : text that has meaning! IN LAYERS!
mircea_popescu: text that can actually not be textually reprocessed into usable text.
mircea_popescu: if you look at the link thrown around in here a coupla days ago when it was being discussed, has a bunch of bibliographical wankery i snipped.
TheNewDeal: That was some of the finest erotica Ive ever perused
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a meta sense, the way we write had been a wot all along.
mircea_popescu: poses exactly the same problems to the poser as the wot poses to the scammer.
ben_vulpes: ah come on the bibliographical stuff was great
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: are you chewing through "the complete works"?
decimation: asciilifeform: how do you distinguish between 'usg agent' and 'derp who reads your website'?
decimation: I guess in the end it doesn't much matter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4000 @ 0.00085353 = 3.4141 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: decimation: I imagine his heuruistic is how they read his website
decimation: mircea_popescu: both fall into the category 'shoot'?
assbot: Chromium Blog: Hello HTTP/2, Goodbye SPDY
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah he definitely exhibited that pattern. but my priors tend to 'random derp (maybe mr spam)' rather than 'usg agent'
decimation: heh it would be amusing to get 'premium content' trolls here
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> also claimed to be working on a 'military' path to sovereign moldbuggistan, which screams 'provocateur' << I don't get very many of these. You FBI file must be thicker than mine.
decimation: "Draft resistance is at an all-time high: a mere 6 percent of those called up have reported voluntarily. This has forced the Kiev authorities to go knocking on doors – where they are met either with a mass of angry villagers, who refuse to let them take anyone, or else ghost towns where virtually everyone has fled. In the Transcarpathia region of western Ukraine, entire villages have been emptied, the inhabitants fleeing to Russia
decimation: to wait out the war – or the fall of the Kiev regime, whichever comes first. "
decimation: lol, apparently the ukranians are fleeing the russian invaders by fleeing to ... russia
decimation: " In a Facebook post that was quickly deleted, Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak wrote: “According to unofficial sources, hostels and motels in border regions of neighboring Romania are completely filled with draft dodgers.” P"
decimation: wonder how many lei it takes to get the local romaninan police to 'overlook' your immigration
decimation: the local villagers, not being entirely stupid, want neither to die as nato puppet nor at the hands of ru army
decimation: moldbug would say that this wound provides infinite employment for nulands
ben_vulpes: <decimation> heh it would be amusing to get 'premium content' trolls here << didja ever meet tiberius?
decimation: who would bother trolling us? the chances of some derp changing anyone's opinion on matters here seems pretty low
ben_vulpes: tib was never much for changing opinions
ben_vulpes: roll you in on point a, before you know it you're knees deep in c d e and q
ben_vulpes: sadly, got banned. even mircea_popescu couldn't out-chat him.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2013 16:23:25; cads: tiberius, and if that's true, then I salute you
gribble: Current Blocks: 342801 | Current Difficulty: 4.44554159623438E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 344735 | Next Difficulty In: 1934 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 9 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 51100598845.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.94797
assbot: 631 results for 'tiberiusiv' - #bitcoin-assets search
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform might find some interesting strange in those depths.
assbot: 'Re: OK... how dare you both even to not publish patches...' - MARC
BingoBoingo: Seriously check srother@mercenary-security.com 's email sig out there: "Please note: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure..." Sig on a public mailing list
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: well now you've incremented his linkweight. good job.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Actually I've done the opposite
ben_vulpes: at least robert viragh and the_minor_pestilence had the good sense to not leave a crumbtrail
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: There's actually more, uglier crumbtrail.
ben_vulpes: Guest85903: you gotta auth within ~30secs
Guest85903: i'm working on setting up all the shit in the wiki
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: If you set up Xchat (or any other client) with SASL it will auth you with nickserve automatically in time
ben_vulpes: Guest85903: you may want a better handle than bitcoinquestions
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: You know... if you have Bitcoin in you personal name people take you less seriously. That's why bitcoin_pete seriously considered moving his identity to MooseCocks
Guest85903: Whereas if your name is BingoBoingo you get taken very seriously?
BingoBoingo: Anyways 6 of the right months of history is prolly the minimum to be caught up on the -Stable branch of the channel conversation. Having answers... Maybe 12-24 months?
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: History. Originally it was BingoBongo, but kakobrekla convinced me this was better.
BingoBoingo: Because time passes this is now my real name.
BingoBoingo: And sometimes I am a bit startled when people use my slave name.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: not reference to that song 'civilisation' is it?
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: The important part of a "Name" though is that it is now a textual match for another concept.
BingoBoingo: My gibberish name, fine name. mircea_popescu being the Romanian equivalent of John Smith fine. "Cocksmoker404" is limiting.
BingoBoingo: Because Cocksmoker404 conveys a meaning in its text.
BingoBoingo: Other text attached to that name is going to on a quick read get a context attached to it.
danielpbarron: Guest85903, just use the name that your mother and father gave you; honor them.
lobbes: perfect: Difficult_Choice
Guest85903: bitcoinquestions --> whaack please up! me when I get back
mircea_popescu: omfg i step out for pie, i come back, all the lines out of whack!
BingoBoingo got a new SSD in the mail today. Damn that fucker is thin.
mircea_popescu: decimation: ah google is going to drop SPDY and fully support HTTPbis << if any of teh strategic minds in attendance care to explain this to me i'd apprecfiate it
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: focus is expensive. << he is on to something.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> decimation: ah google is going to drop SPDY and fully support HTTPbis << if any of teh strategic minds in attendance care to explain this to me i'd apprecfiate it << SPDY was Google so Open it is closed HTTP replacement no one else needed
BingoBoingo: No idea if HTTP2 is worse or not, but prolly at least as bad
whaack: ;;eregister A31A30AA659AB67C
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, moar like
http 2 is basically a rushed "let's reimplement spdy"
whaack: ;;eregister whaack A31A30AA659AB67C
gribble: Error: This key already registered in the database.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or they were cooked different places and Google didn't get the tug on its leash early enough
whaack: I added the key for another handle is there anyway to remove it?
BingoBoingo: whaack: Have you considered the "literal" nuclear option?
whaack: ;;eregister whaack 54D96EEE73C04299
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
IHB: dude. i really want to get into WOT
IHB: as soon things settle down with my team. i am gonna do it
mircea_popescu: "where they are met either with a mass of angry villagers, who refuse to let them take anyone" so czar's army, this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00040344 = 16.9243 BTC [+]
whaack: ;;eregister whaack 54D96EEE73C04299
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
mod6: whaack: you can pm gribble too.
mircea_popescu: decimation: " In a Facebook post that was quickly deleted, Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak wrote: “According to unofficial sources, hostels and motels in border regions of neighboring Romania are completely filled with draft dodgers.” << this is true. romania took in like 50k refugees.
mircea_popescu: being kept under wraps because whatever, can't go out saying the us caused a war atrocity and a refugee wave.
decimation: are the romanians pissed about the extra ukrainians?
mircea_popescu: decimation: wonder how many lei it takes to get the local romaninan police to 'overlook' your immigration << it's a civilised country. if you don't break the law they don't care. if you show up at the border without proper paperwork you get fined 500 lei (~100 euro) and generally forbidden to reenter for 5 years.
mircea_popescu: this entire "don't let people in" is purely a welfare state thing. romania is not one.
decimation: so the romanian government explictly granted this refugee status?
decimation: my understanding is that ukrainians have all been granted russian citizenship anyway, if they choose to use it
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: he was top notch. << not really. too much anger.
decimation: if I were some derp in a ukrainian village I think I would be on the way to whatever frontier I could manage
mircea_popescu: decimation you gotta understand, europe is europe. think texas during the 1800s, mix-y.
mircea_popescu: decimation but you are that, in that situation, and you're sitting put :)
mircea_popescu: what, you think ukrainian peasant has no material or emotional properties ? just because you discount them as alien doesn't make them go away.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00040344 = 1.3515 BTC [+]
decimation: but the threat of dying for that oak has become quite real
mircea_popescu: actually arond there, from say vienna to about moscow, people are fucking fixated on the soil.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84485 @ 0.00040688 = 34.3753 BTC [+]
decimation: multi-generational farms and the like?
IHB: people in india kill each other all the time over less than an oak tree
decimation: in the us, people are so mobile that they hardly have any loyalty to the soil
mircea_popescu: yeah well i tell you something, nobody who knew me in a pervious life ever imagined i'd leave cluj.
IHB: <+decimation> in the us, people are so mobile that they hardly have any loyalty to the soil < this more true as every day passes
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually arond there, from say vienna to about moscow, people are fucking fixated on the soil. << Amazing how in spite of it mostly being a source of minable lead Ozark folk are still more fixated on their soil
BingoBoingo: <IHB> <+decimation> in the us, people are so mobile that they hardly have any loyalty to the soil < this more true as every day passes << Less mobile every week
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in usa, it's jobs/professions more than 'soil' << Only because you are on the east left coast
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> less mobile more alabama ? :D << More sweet home alabama, less freebird
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: sadly, got banned. even mircea_popescu couldn't out-chat him. << gtfo that's so totally not what happened.
IHB: i lived in louisiana for a while and we went to bama all the time
IHB: i like better than here in LA
IHB: did you smell the pulp from the factory in mobile?
IHB: hey <+mircea_popescu> why did they suspend your twitter account? how do you get suspended but ISIS is allowed to troll away
mircea_popescu: IHB actually no, there was a strike or something. they weren't going.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You fucked a fort in mobile. Full of nubile ROLL TIDE cheerleaders, or at least that will be the legend in 2145
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You for get the weather that erodes civilization... time.
lobbes: <asciilifeform> in usa, it's jobs/professions more than 'soil' << aye, this is what binds me. This mouse-trap cheese is so tasty
lobbes: maybe can get some before it slams down
IHB: <+mircea_popescu> too bad. his derp friends probably spent more money on his funeral than he would have derping away
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Trilema reflects you were in Alabama. When trends on reddit change suddenly they will say you fucked all of the Bama cheerleraders in a heroic battle agaisnt Condie Rice
assbot: THE DOMAIN OF THE FATMOUSE - UNOFFICIAL MIRROR
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And the fanfic crowd will on that doubt rewrite history.
whaack: So going back to my bitcoinquestion spree - do you guys believe the conversation in /r/bitcoin is controlled by a few people with many accounts directing an unnatural conversation?
mod6: asciilifeform: pretty long bumper sticker
BingoBoingo: whaack: To an extent, largely controlled by systemic failures in reddits mode of failing to social means
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prototype knockout mice often get extreme obesity or cancer for their compelled bravery.\
mircea_popescu: Guest85903: i'm working on setting up all the shit in the wiki << this really should be in the bash lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Except for midsession disconnections << xchat irssi and all others can be config'd to not autoreconnect. so you can handle manually./
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well... Mice are awfully fragile. Especially when $maxint is spent knocking out something that was important
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform someone in biotech had this sad story a while back about a lost farm. i had one too
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo: Except for midsession disconnections << xchat irssi and all others can be config'd to not autoreconnect. so you can handle manually./ << Working on a online machine migration in the near future.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform someone in biotech had this sad story a while back about a lost farm. i had one too << Was this the lab flooded in the hurricaine?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: Guest85903, just use the name that your mother and father gave you; honor them. << not a bad principle.
whaack: Yeah the shorter brother who they wouldn't let in the film :(
whaack: Because when I don't and I join this channel my internet cuts out for 30 fucking minutes
whaack: Seriously made me wanna kill something
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> im waiting for the first Carmen_Beercunt << If I make my escape to the Phillipines to scoope up a handful of Azn wives I'll name the second this
BingoBoingo: "FATMOUSE IS A SELF-SUSTAINING INDUSTRY. FATMOUSE NEEDS A SUPERCOMPUTER TO COUNT ALL THE CALORIES HE MUST CONSUME. STOCK IN FATMOUSE ALWAYS GOES UP. YOU SHOULD BUY STOCK IN FATMOUSE. FATMOUSE EATS YOUR STOCK. YOU ARE AN INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING TO FATMOUSE."
whaack: mircea_popescu: A cloak is a VPN no? I have one now
BingoBoingo: whaack: Nah a cloak is freenode masking your VPN
assbot: The Perry Bible Fellowship
assbot: An Exceedingly Polite Beginner's Guide To Anal Sex
BingoBoingo: Did this start as a submission to Ask A Clean Person?
BingoBoingo: In a sort of roundabout way it did. Kind of a combination of a horror story that was deemed too gross to run in AaCP's former home and some recent questions left in the comments of the bedwetting post.
BingoBoingo: !up Sorry, was playing with Emacs as a manager for my pasta buffers. In over my head.
mircea_popescu: that thing when you notice an event that's been announced weeks ago that nobody is going to go to, declare you're going and within six hours everyone's going and teh oirganizer emailed to thank you. twice.
whaack: What's the best way to break through the I-have-no-trust catch 22
BingoBoingo: e9e17fb4b3d7f044c329464497b47f3d9ee0facf9b699d05d54f18fdd46f3b0b
mircea_popescu: whaack not being stupid usually yields some mercy 1's. also doing something useful.
whaack: financial capital of the world!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Preet seems to whack himself pretty well
whaack: mircea_popescu: was the pun on my name intentional?
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Vexual: Whilst strolling thru some summer city
Vexual: Met a girl very wall-eyed and pretty
whaack: alrightie well I'm out thanks for the help with setting up the WoT shit
Vexual: So I slammed the thing hard
Vexual: Now her eyes are aligned mores the pity
Vexual: Anyone got a selenim guy? I wanna get loaded
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Vexual: Err whats that load testing suite of trickiness?
Vexual: More a motel room I guess
mod6: selenium doesn't really do perf testing if that's what you're looking for. it mainly can just drive through html like a browser.
mod6: there's jmeter for load testing, but it bites, mainly. and it's scripting sucks even more.
assbot: Spider-Man is now a part of Marvel's Cinematic Universe | The Verge
mod6: it's a free tool. other perf testers can get expensive. *shrug*
Vexual: Whats selenium for then? A cheaper version of 10k iphones?
mod6: selenium lets you automate fuctional testing of a
http framework -- you can use it to drive through a website, click on stuff, fill out forms, etc.
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Vexual: Bb I saw some mall managers measuring shopfronts for glossiness ignoring the knock off asian disney shit in the centre of their center
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cazalla: BingoBoingo, beat ya to it
cazalla: well, landed on the wikipedia page first
assbot: Anybody know how I can stop systemd /var/log/journal from filling ever partition it's in?
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Vexual: Or send it somewhere unique
Vexual: Now I can use kakos bucket shop
mircea_popescu: i find it quite amusing how gavin's 5th column are trying to turn their laughable defeat around into a sort of victory along the lines of "well we can';t have what we want, and that's okay as long as you admit democratic process".
assbot: I checked with Carol at the mini-golf hut and no pants were found on the fence.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They are 'Murican and can't distinguish consent and consensus
mircea_popescu: "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority", that sort of stuff, "it doesn't matter which way it goes as long as you accept our framing of the issues"
mircea_popescu: sort of bullshit. whenever you run into it you can be pretty sure you've run into an usg nest, it's like the fox scent and the fox.
mircea_popescu: at any rate : they can't have that much. bitcoin is NOT a democracy. votes DO NOT count. in fact, votes are squarely irrelevant in this matter.
Vexual: Whats happening in Ukraine? I've limited bandwidth
Vexual: Qntra got a world affairs tab yet?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aww, and all this time spend claiming it was teh russians!
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punkman: or DIY with thick foil/sheet metal
punkman: "a pilgrimage through 1990
punkman: 1990's Europe, in a low-poly Trabant
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BigBitz: ben_vulpes: Not sure what you mean?
assbot: BYXPRESS Presentation - YouTube
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mircea_popescu: Naphex: lmao. that ByExpress scam is insanely funny and totally retarded << teh accent lol. &teh mouthbreather speech speed...
Naphex: mircea_popescu: apparently they are official google partners as well :O
Naphex: i'm just amazed. that people will "invest" that high amount and do zero dilligence
Naphex: thing is this guys seem to be starting from local, so basicly ruining any market
Naphex: is this the early stages, or just selectively picking idiots?
Naphex: do they get busted? they use real names I assume
Naphex: and essentialy just defraud their aquantances when it busts?
punkman: acquaintances, family, whoever
mircea_popescu: Naphex yes, it's what one of these things is, "con your family and friends".
mircea_popescu: "they won't give you money directly ? that's fine, trick them into giving it to us! "
Naphex: yeah but they just send it upwards
Naphex: which is even more retard it
mircea_popescu: as average iq keeps dropping and average intelligence drops with the square of the iq, and as complexity increases like a fucking cube of time or something, there's bound to be more and more of these.
mircea_popescu: now im 35 and the average 35 yo CAN NOT support himself.
mircea_popescu: kinda why defranchising of most of the population / having money and resources controlled by a tiny minority / having most people live in ever larger harems, as ever more abject slaves of whoever's brain still works is unavoiable.
mircea_popescu: this is the case for it : people of average intelligence are not actually smart enough to survive.
mircea_popescu: and you can't you know, "make everything illegal so idiots have a chance". it will be tried, obviously, but with no expectation of working to any degree.
chetty: Have people actually gotten dumber or has the world just gotten more complex?
mircea_popescu: people have factually gotten dumber. AND the world has got more complex.
mircea_popescu: something like smart = Cx / t^2 while complexity = Cy + a t ^ 3
mircea_popescu: (the reason one can be ^ -2 while the other is at ^ 3 is the hugeness of population : you only need one guy to push complexity up. so in this sense, lower population is in fact insurance against decreasing average life quality)
chetty: well the time between your 18 and 35 is not enough for actual species change, so its environmental ?
mircea_popescu: but megatrends may well be observable in a short interval even if they are not in fact contained in that interval.
punkman: re: 10m people, what kind of world can you run on that considering current complexity?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if some drunk driver loses control over vehicle at t=0, goes over embankment at t = 1.8s and explodes at t = 3.5s,
mircea_popescu: it will be BECAUSE he lost control, but the losing of control would have happened long before
mircea_popescu: punkman depends how you select them. if well selected, something pretty cool i imagine. like, a world in which nobody is going to spam.
mircea_popescu: imagine a web without all the idiotic "web start-ups".
chetty: may not be that far off, if us declares it public utility
mircea_popescu: no further need for makework jobs, no more government crapolade, etc.
mircea_popescu: the need for police, for instance, is a strict function of population density. places with < 1 person / sqkm do not need any police.
mircea_popescu: punkman "''a giant theft machine,'' moving billions illegally around the world, engaged in financing the heroin trade, tax fraud and wound up bilking innocent investors of at least $50 million." << the substance of unsubstantiated journalism.
mircea_popescu: "he was a drug lord and thief, moving many thousands of dollars and running an unpaid bill of at least 50 bux"
punkman: mircea_popescu: downsizing would of course remove large swaths of complexity/scarcity, but I was thinking if "global village", how many people do we need so I can have computer and underwater fiber network, 10m doesn't sound like enough
mircea_popescu: you don't seriously imagine that "people" out and about are in fact efficient ?
punkman: doesn't take much to feed them
mircea_popescu: currently you have machinery that can cut up, melt and re-set the asphalt. much like a sort of "3d printer for roads", really.
mircea_popescu: the only reason it's not automated ? roads aren't straight. and that is because ?
mircea_popescu: take out 99.85% of the population, suddenly roads can be straight np.
chetty: no more cities ... everyone lives in the country on their own estates?
CoraCrisT: and this is how you become the favorite architect of every dictator in the world
punkman: friend wanted to buy one of those, but local council wasn't gonna fire 12 man-crew
mircea_popescu: i seriouslydon't see why anyone would be laying optic fibre by hand.
mircea_popescu: and we actually have the technoogy to make the robots work together and automatically
CoraCrisT: becouse as a cable company, we pledge to offer jobs ;))
mircea_popescu: much like that vacuum cleanner manages to keep the house clean
punkman: hard to replace human repairman with robot currently
mircea_popescu: once space no longer such a constraint, very easy to do.
CoraCrisT: robots are pretty capable of diagnosis and automated repairs
punkman: because human can do things robot can't, even if it has a brain to remote-control it
mircea_popescu: there's no doubt in my mind that the "every fuckhead's sacred, god needs every one" current mantra is headed the same way monty python saw catholicism go.
CoraCrisT: also robots can do things humans can`t
CoraCrisT: imagine a waste disposal team made of robots , in chemical situations, etc :)
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "artisan can do things cnc mill can not"
mircea_popescu: very true. however, you don't HAVE to fight a war to suit the artisan.
chetty: actually no need to straighten the roads, just do away with them
mircea_popescu: chetty they won't be roads i imagine, more like hovercraft pads.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> doesn't take much to feed them << this is true. cigarettes also don't take much to buy.
mircea_popescu: dealing with the after effects of having bought them, however, different story.
mircea_popescu: it is incontrovertible fact that most people alive today will have cost more than they were worth by the time they die, and this by orders of magnitude.
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mircea_popescu: unrelated : Teacher explains superlatives, then has children give examples. Little Johhny : Big, bigger, biggest. Little Sammy : Hard, harder, hardest.
mircea_popescu: they're down to food bloggers now ? no further bankers left ?
punkman: lolwut "The reason for my death is simple. I have concluded that in the realm of dating and relationships the primary characteristics required for men are as follows."
mircea_popescu: "Mircea Popescu February 10, 2015 at 14:01 Reply Your comment is awaiting moderation.
mircea_popescu: Congrats for figuring it out, and doing the right thing.
mircea_popescu: If only more people in your unfortunate situation had the intellectual honesty to look their failure in the eye and take the jump, the world would be a much better place.
mircea_popescu: Even among losers, there’s hierarchy : the better ones leave, the scum of the scum sticks around."
mircea_popescu: "I originally performed this test 5 times and found approximately a 95% skew" << :D
mircea_popescu: "I was told that this sample set was too small so I performed the same test over four to five years until I reached the sample size of 10,000 in total split into tranches of 100. Every time the answer effectively remained the same. All the samples lie between a 94% bias and a 100% bias."
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assbot: Apple Has 93% of Mobile Profits; 650M Users by 2018, Says Canaccord - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com ... (
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thestringpuller: "Yes, and it reaches this point over 100 years from now." << i don't like to think of the future cause i'll be dead, let my children deal with the problem.
thestringpuller: love these pseudo arguments. better entertainment than television
nubbins`: 100 years? that's like forever
nubbins`: so what if the garbage will catch fire after i throw a lit cigarette in? i'm already on my way out of the building.
nubbins`: Parking brake? But I'm not in the car anymore!
jurov: thestringpuller what do you quote?
gribble: Current Blocks: 342880 | Current Difficulty: 4.44554159623438E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 344735 | Next Difficulty In: 1855 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 49234655973.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.75064
nubbins`: i can't imagine anywhere in the world having the capacity or desire to replicate 4k floppies at a time
jurov: it comes with robot to manipulate these floppies
PeterL: ;; later tell mircea_popescu is there no report for F.DERP for january?
nubbins`: jurov oh! like those cd replicators
nubbins`: are you talking about the .foundation now? XD
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nubbins`: let's put a pin in this for down the road
nubbins`: maybe a better use of funds than sending hand-printed posters to slum tenants in middle america
☟︎ nubbins`: .foundation torrent might work, but it'd be janky
nubbins`: throw a fresh torrent up weekly
nubbins`: leave the stale one around for a week to let existing peers finish
nubbins`: not really smooth sailing for any definition thereof, but it's a start
nubbins`: download your Genuine .Foundation Blockchain today
nubbins`: imaigne manually patching .5.3 for two days, then downloading the blockchain off a random torrent
nubbins`: i guess my pogoplug will arrive this week?
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nubbins`: this orlov guy is fun to read, but JESUS does it ever send me on tangents
nubbins`: 5 tabs of info about tunneling diodes... "oh, wait, i was reading an article"
jurov: well, there is a torrent published for bootstrap.dat. atm only > 0.9 supports it
jurov: but the bootstrap file itself is pretty harmless. just blocks, nothing else
jurov: and when the torent is updated, it is only appended to
davout: thestringpuller: the idea of timestamping stuff in the blockchain is as old as bitcoin
davout: oh, a romanian camel dude
thestringpuller: davout: i kno. i'm just being a h8er. Can't I just hate on people.
mircea_popescu: so im having the 2nd breakfast of the day. like the previous one, this one also consists of milk and apple pie.
nubbins`: i had coffee and two homemade cookies
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mircea_popescu: in any case, i guess they don't manage in however many posts to get to addressing the key point of "who pays davis' salary these days".
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nubbins`: (incidentally, the volca sample receives OS updates as modulated audio via a 3.5mm stereo jack)
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: nubbins`: incentive program << this is what makes zero sense. the buggers have infinite fiat budget, and to their soldiers, they offer... pocket change << you have to understand the extrmely problematic nature of infinite budget. suppose you were trying to fly an aeroplane that had infinite thrust.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: let's put a pin in this for down the road << you're keeping screenshots aren't you.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu who needs it? !s pin from:nubbins`
mircea_popescu: jurov: well, there is a torrent published for bootstrap.dat. atm only > 0.9 supports it << are we desperate for old style blockchains ?
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jurov: mircea_popescu: read on, it is NOT blockchain
jurov: it's just a bag of blocks
nubbins`: dat single backspace to erase two-char number ;/
thestringpuller: How is Apple making so much money? Does everyone use macs these days?
☟︎ thestringpuller: Really needs to be a drinking game for these things where you take a shot everytime someone uses a buzz word.
thestringpuller: so is the bitcoin incentive program going to scale into "If you upgrade to hard fork, we'll incentivize you *wink wink* ?!?"
thestringpuller: "Bitnodes uses Bitcoin protocol version 70001 (i.e. >= /Satoshi:0.8.x/), so nodes running an older protocol version will be skipped."
nubbins`: there are plenty of people who would do this for like 5 bucks a month
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mircea_popescu: this stench of desperation is like overpowering by now.
nubbins`: there are people who would do this for a buck a month
mircea_popescu: there are people who would take a fucking picture of a fucking poster for fifty bucks
ben_vulpes: how do these "chinese liquidity injections" actually work?
ben_vulpes: is it a straight up purchase of dud assets?
mircea_popescu: except china has more and much dudlier assets than you could ever imagine.
ben_vulpes: "cleanest shirt in the room" is the phrase i hear our financial "pundits" bandy about.
mircea_popescu: "cleanest shirts of the shirts we're willing to see" doesn't have quite the same... flavour
ben_vulpes: these are "NPR" reporters - they've no idea that MPEx even exists.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it doesn't matter that the us is the cleanest shirt in the room. that's not really the criteria.
mircea_popescu: in the woods cabin that is this world, the us shirt sits on the chest of a 16 yo, and his brother the 15yo yurp wears a dirtier one. Nevertheless, the absolute dirtiest one is worn by the 32 yo chinese man, whose shirt is dirty because he's the ony one who gets to fuck the only local woman
mircea_popescu: it's true that an online blog the boys read said clean shirt wins.
mircea_popescu: for that matter... russia has been "under sanctions" for half a year.
mircea_popescu: i am terribly curious how the us would look should the eu decide to sanction IT for half a year.
mircea_popescu: not that much to the clean shirt theory if one looks closely at the seams.
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mircea_popescu: "Skipping a bunch of details, they left something in her and it was the cause of last week's night in the ER. The working theory is it is a part from the surgical robot that got dislodged or broken off as all their sponge, suture, and staple counts were on. Regardless, it wasn't there before and it is now and I have no idea what the fuck is going to happen next. According to my wife, the surgeon is of the opinion that
mircea_popescu: we should wait and see if it causes any more pain or if it will 'settle in'."
mircea_popescu: "we fixed your car and your wife, overal the parts count has conserved"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude, reacting to idiots is an inept policy. you will end up with egg on your face.
mircea_popescu: the correct thing to do is to ignore stupid not to code up to stupid.
mircea_popescu: the latter always leaves YOU with stupid in your code.
mircea_popescu: but if it's a serious point of concern, either move the version string in the config file
☟︎ mircea_popescu: or i guess i'll ask danielpbarron to include instructions on how to arbitrarily set it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason is that the nude woman is perfectly safe in the manly company of the impotent.
mircea_popescu: oh lulzy, so they're going to skip safe nodes from whatever harebrained changetip scheme they came up with next ?
mircea_popescu: notice who is driving this boat : i want to improve incentive structure for nodes ? they execute.
mircea_popescu: why exactly is this bad and why exactly should this be fixed ?
mircea_popescu: let idiots FINALLY pay nodes to node, after five years wasted power rangering, because mp said so. win-win.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't the entire discussion about how someone (who ?) is going to (citation needed) pay some loose change to everyone that runs a node ?
mircea_popescu: so let them do something useful for once in their lifetime, it's not a bad thing.
mircea_popescu: yaya, fake foudation doesn't actually have what to pay gavin with for the rest of this year. had they stayed in the us they'd have been open to some pretty lulzy litigation.
mircea_popescu: and as far as i hear you can't really sell A series as a non profit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's exactly my point. let them spend their resources paying nodes to node, it's useful. they are incentivized to maximize numbers, which means they will be paying nodes that are conformant to us.
nubbins`: seems easy enough to write a patch that changes version string
mircea_popescu: becayuse while someone may take 1 buck a day to noide, as nubbins` says, they won't fuck up a node for chump change.
nubbins`: would be pretty lelly to publicly fire up a few k's of .foundation nodes on EC2 and start claiming dat money
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i already bought a bunch of the pogo guys
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's a stupid idea anyway, how do you verify nodeness ?
mircea_popescu: if it could be done it'd have been in the fucking protocol.
mircea_popescu: if they manage to do it well, all the better, goes into actual fork.
nubbins`: web dev equivalent: "don't target the browser, target the features"
nubbins`: make a >1MB block and pay nodes that relay it
nubbins`: if they're shelling out cash, they're not doing it for a user-settable agent string
mircea_popescu: yeah, because gavin really has a coupla k bitcoins laying around to "repay" the miners that bit a steel girder by trusting him.
nubbins`: they're doing it to push the first block of a fork
mircea_popescu: this is so totally happening, everyone has reddit's memory.
mircea_popescu: which fails to explain how come some people own millions worth of gear and reddit can barely afford a webcam, but hey.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i hope they do this as you describe it, easily maximal lulz.
mircea_popescu: "this is the right thing and in your best interest, and we're so certain of this we'll pay you to do it."
nubbins`: "Bottled Queef Gas may be worth 755%"
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Naphex: so much fiteing on reddit nowadays
mircea_popescu: Naphex someone remind strateman that a) he is a fucking felon fraudster, whose name is forever besmirched by one of bitcoin's most idiotic heists (bitcoinica)
mircea_popescu: and that he is also one of the MOST inept "coders" involved in the early stages.
mircea_popescu: ie, back when all the idiots thought they're bitcoin coders.
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mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b4adb22156bc3560f7f16c899dd2896a9af5c26d90b4c8cf345a6562
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate phantomcircuit -10 Aka Patrick Strateman. That he has the unmitigated audacity to pretend he is a Bitcoin dev is unsurprising for the history of this felon. His name is permanently besmirched by one of the most inept frauds in the history of Bitcoin (Bitcoinica). He is also famous for sending the entire userbase the email address of the entire userbase. This is the sort of moron early Bitcoin attracted.
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mircea_popescu: "oh, let's lay low for a coupla years everything will be fine".
Naphex: >>> He is also famous for sending the entire userbase the email address of the entire userbase. This is the sort of moron early Bitcoin attracted. | lmao!
BingoBoingo: jurov: well, there is a torrent published for bootstrap.dat. atm only > 0.9 supports it << I thought 0.7.2 and later all support it, 0.7.2 being the only version to unpack it as BDB blockchain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i strictly meant the point discussed above, "bootstrap"
mircea_popescu: funny how botomless the capacity of these people to generate conflicting names.
nubbins`: set max number of connections, threshold for abandoning slow peers
nubbins`: as a percentage of average download speed, i guess
mircea_popescu: nubbins` slow peers nbot even it. out of order block peers much worse.
beetcoin: I'm curious about the general sentiment around here that says bitcoin should not scale. That it is not for "the common man".
beetcoin: not that I necessarily disagree,
nubbins`: beetcoin, you'll remain curious for a while
beetcoin: maybe those aren't the best words
beetcoin: I have read some of the logs, but it is rather a lot to read
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem is that if you penalize nodes for misbehaving thus, you'll just in practice randomly cut them off. as thery all do.
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: one can either read the forums, or the log. not both.
ben_vulpes: reddit, in this case, counts as a forum.
mircea_popescu: now... if OUR node was better, to privilege it would make sense. and itd; be worth WAY more than the five bux or w/e on tap.
nubbins`: ben_vulpes that's like saying one can either read a brief history of time or their cereal box
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes, heh yeah at least log.b-a is finite; can't that /that/ long to read
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: more like "collected works of mark twain"
mircea_popescu: one million lines is it ? should be about a year, for someone that is professionally qualified to read.
nubbins`: man's still gotta eat brekkies 8)
danielpbarron: whereas reddit et al. is a bottomless pit of idiocy
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nobody ever read all of reddit. so it's okay : failure by design.
beetcoin: what role should bitcoin play then?
beetcoin: well, i realize bitcoin is not a sentient 'actor'
beetcoin: but humans can't really change gravity
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: what, is an uninterdictable store of value not enough for you?!
ben_vulpes: what could be more awesome than the knowledge that the system will have 21M coins...FOREVER?
mircea_popescu: <beetcoin> but humans can't really change gravity << or bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: that's the principal point here. it's not a "technology". it's not an invention. bitcoin is a discovery.
beetcoin: bitcoin has changed somewhat since its invention though
mircea_popescu: it was always there, and it'll hit you over the head until you die if you cross it.
beetcoin: okay, so it has changed since its discovery
beetcoin: but a number of forks have occurred
mircea_popescu: if you mean the unintentional power ranger fuckup of 2013, that fork was killed.
danielpbarron: one could make the argument that bitcoin wasn't really discovered until you could use it on MPEx, and since then it hasn't changed
mircea_popescu: we are still on the OLD chain, we didn't move to the new one that emerged then.
ben_vulpes: beetcoin: the last time gavin tried to change bitcoin in one of these "fundamental" ways, he burned a lot of capital fixing all of the idiots bitcoinds who went with him.
assbot: "Custom crypto-cracking hardware is pricey & rare, but your local tool store has cheap human-cracking hardware." /hashtag/tsmastery?src=hash
beetcoin: a fork is not impossible in principle
mircea_popescu: one year you throw away k's of btc, the next year you need foundation salary for 10s of btc ?
beetcoin: if enough people wanted to, it could happen
mircea_popescu: what "enough people" want and five dollars in cointips buys them a cup of coffee.
beetcoin: bitcoin is not a democracy? what is it then? an oligarchy?
☟︎ beetcoin: it just does what it wants then
danielpbarron: man the redditards have amnesia i guess; they used to use the honeybadger example of "bitcoin don't give a bit!"
ben_vulpes: Starsoccer: you're joining and cloaking in the wrong order.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron this was back when reddit mostly consisted of people who had bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: they either gotr scammed and sold out as the price went up, because they couldn't justifyably keep those hjoldings
mircea_popescu: now it's mostly people who don't have bitcoin, and desperately wish to be told "that's okay".
mircea_popescu: only if we can make our nodes give out blocks in order.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know people who have tried and gave up.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Most NetBSD instructions do. Most platforms they support can get some sort of bootable kernel but not much in the way of a useful userland... The Japanese love it because they can say their toilets "run" unix...
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mod6: asciilifeform: MAKEDEV doesn't work?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this is pretty huge. if you feel like spinning it together with the discussion re symbols a few weeks ago makes a pretty great qntra article. informative and in depth of what matters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform esr is posting from an universe where apple has ambitions.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've waken today to a rather full plate, maybe someone else wants.
mircea_popescu: it can't actually do THAT, but some other things it can buy
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Best I can tell as always ESR simply thinks he can avoid starvation
mod6: not sure if that helps at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "compiler technology has advanced significantly in ways that GCC is not well positioned to exploit. " any clue what this specifically means ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform "compiler technology has advanced significantly in ways that GCC is not well positioned to exploit. " any clue what this specifically means ? << Probably FreeBSD 10 generally slower than 9 because clang/LLVM
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you;ll enjoy my write-up, if it gets picked up :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, exactly. the problem is that they (unknowingly) approximate the wot
mircea_popescu: "Licenses and "control" have absolutely nothing to do with it. Stefan" :D
mircea_popescu: oh, some holdouts still don't wish to trade power for the fetish of power ? pretend like power doesn't even exist anymore!
mircea_popescu: "As mentioned earlier, in any case I will happily accept and install LLDB support into gud.el. So as long as I'm Emacs maintainer, your opinion on whether this might ruin the FSF's goals are not relevant."
mircea_popescu: what shocks me is the extreme structural coherence of the red herrings deployed.
mircea_popescu: metzger could be that blind schmuck in systemd could be gavin etc.
hanbot: bingoboingo "pretty patters" > patterns
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Did you mean to say patterns or patters
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform management sez take a break you're chewing the scenery.
mircea_popescu: btw re ers : i'm not so sure about all that barnacle. isn't the guy a major libertarian ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ESR professes as to be such
danielpbarron: is there a way to modify the linux that comes with the pogo?
danielpbarron: so it's not just me; this stuff is just very frustrating
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: in essence, like most supposedly 'gpl compliant' commercial products, the compliance is a total and unabashed crock of shit. <<< funny how much stock rms puts in the nude declaration, huh.
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danielpbarron: well i would still like to put gentoo on my pogo inplace of arch, even if it is not the final solution
mircea_popescu: one of the best parts of living in argentina ? you can have email exchanges with "don Pablo Picasso". literally.
cazalla: sounds reasonable eh "HSBC's economist Paul Bloxham reports average house prices are up 23 per cent in the last 2½ years and a whopping 33 per cent in Sydney, citing figures from RP Data CoreLogic."
cazalla: at this rate, housing might outpace gavin's blocksize roadmap