tmsr - Log 2014-12-21

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00057032 = 10.4654 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00058236 = 14.8502 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33052 @ 0.00058401 = 19.3027 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23337 @ 0.0005864 = 13.6848 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00055832 = 21.1882 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13027 @ 0.00057707 = 7.5175 BTC [+]

cazalla: i think we need more womens too https://twitter.com/Catheryne_N/status/545650643759669250

assbot: /victoriavaneyk /ioptio /conniegallippi /scarrbondale /cryptolachat /TrueBitcoinGirl: RT /hashtag/bitcoinwomen?src=hash apply for /BoostVC /hashtag/tribe5?src=hash

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00055942 = 8.0836 BTC [-]

mats: equal opportunity Bitcoin, yo

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00060622 = 10.6089 BTC [+]

cazalla: more like they want equal outcome

decimation: asciilifeform: there's no way in hell someone could create a 'free and open' laptop like that for less than a few $100 mil

asciilifeform: !s from ore

assbot: 5 results for 'from ore' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from+ore

decimation: asciilifeform: either from ore or paying the ransom required to get intel et. al. to completely open the design for a chipset

asciilifeform: decimation: there is a good reason to doubt that a sufficiently gnarly turd can ever be considered 'open'

asciilifeform: think of, e.g., openssl.

asciilifeform: doesn't matter how thoroughly the thing is published.

decimation: or ntpd http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.tech/40107/

assbot: Gmane -- NTP ... ( http://bit.ly/1v7jO0q )

asciilifeform: decimation: another thing is that intel et. al. are not honest actors and there would be every reason to suspect the physical product and documentation to diverge in arbitrarily malicious ways.

asciilifeform: as they have in fact been demonstrated to do on many past occasions.

decimation: yeah it's a good point. there is a vast difference between 'source is open, could read' and 'design is obvious, fits in head'

decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect more incompetence than malice, but it's still a good point

asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence. ☟︎

decimation: aye, good point

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00060336 = 18.1008 BTC [-] {2}

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: or a lot of malice in the case of heartbleed

thestringpuller: "little malice" sounds cute like a puppy tearing up the pillows

asciilifeform: 'little' being the size.

decimation: heh http://nknetobserver.github.io/ << apprently best Korea uses redhat, or a rebranded variant

assbot: Your Friendly North Korean Network Observer by nknetobserver ... ( http://bit.ly/1v7nlMp )

thestringpuller: http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/126602439/max_h-300+max_w-300/7pack-cropped.jpg

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5930 @ 0.00059583 = 3.5333 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13865 @ 0.00059205 = 8.2088 BTC [-] {2}

decimation: !up diametric

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00060622 = 9.4267 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54850 @ 0.00061412 = 33.6845 BTC [+] {2}

decimation: ;;ticker

gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 322.12, Best ask: 322.43, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 322.12, 24 hour volume: 10511.84234263, 24 hour low: 319.93, 24 hour high: 333.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.206173307

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00058702 = 25.2712 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00057761 = 5.7761 BTC [-]

[]bot: Bet created: "S&P 500 to drop under 1700 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1087/

[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "S&P 500 to drop under 1700 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1087/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,997.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00057761 = 2.1949 BTC [-]

[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "S&P 500 to drop under 1700 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1087/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,969.

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1380 @ 0.0012 = 1.656 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00059898 = 9.7634 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18143 @ 0.00060751 = 11.0221 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00061286 = 10.5105 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00061393 = 7.5513 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50600 @ 0.00060882 = 30.8063 BTC [-] {3}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1550 @ 0.0012 = 1.86 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00059527 = 23.3941 BTC [-] {6}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15926 @ 0.00060454 = 9.6279 BTC [+]

[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "S&P 500 to drop under 1700 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1087/ Odds: 33(Y):67(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,705.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00057999 = 12.2378 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00059046 = 14.0529 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00057303 = 17.1622 BTC [-] {3}

jurov: is anyone actually competent to herd trillions of transistors?

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1165 @ 0.0012 = 1.398 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00057558 = 4.7773 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00057558 = 6.1299 BTC [+]

jurov: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/12/msg00184.html made my day

assbot: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd? ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjDvcg )

jurov: Q. I can't stop fsck.

jurov: A: You can go back in time and add a kernel parameter

jurov: Q. This does not help because I want to stop one that has started. This is like uninterruptible Windows 8 updates!

jurov: A: Don't be immature jerk and learn to live with results of your actions.

jurov: bwahaha SYSTEMD IS ALWAYS RIGHT ☟︎

assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2MXC9TK.txt )

BingoBoingo: !b 5 ✂︎

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17027 @ 0.00057166 = 9.7337 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00057573 = 12.4646 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49226 @ 0.00059513 = 29.2959 BTC [+] {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00059657 = 19.2692 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00059851 = 3.7993 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32375 @ 0.00062262 = 20.1573 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26575 @ 0.00062439 = 16.5932 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00062484 = 10.4036 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00061339 = 10.1209 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00062495 = 5.8433 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7476 @ 0.00061339 = 4.5857 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.0006112 = 11.3378 BTC [-]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16205 @ 0.00061159 = 9.9108 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 3448 @ 0.0012 = 4.1376 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00062218 = 13.0969 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32266 @ 0.00062298 = 20.1011 BTC [+] {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13753 @ 0.00058015 = 7.9788 BTC [-]

ben_vulpes: http://paulgraham.com/ecw.html << run many models; run as many evaluations on those models as is practical and reweight the decisionmaking balance regularly; most ideas are bad ideas so try to find the smart people. did i miss anything?

assbot: How to Be an Expert in a Changing World ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDFYSG )

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00062495 = 20.4984 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.001215 = 1.8225 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 953 @ 0.0012 = 1.1436 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35173 @ 0.00061085 = 21.4854 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00060289 = 5.3054 BTC [-] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7034 @ 0.00062496 = 4.396 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062672 = 1.5668 BTC [+] {2}

asciilifeform: fsck << see also https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/12/msg00329.html

assbot: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd? ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBn23b )

jurov: hi asciilifeform, already in da logs

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00063519 = 8.6703 BTC [+]

asciilifeform: jurov: nah this one's further in the thread

asciilifeform: 'My experience of running Linux on my personal local interactive (rather than server) systems over the past eighteen years leads me to believe that the long-term benefit of *prophylactic* fsck invocations triggered by mount-count or interval-since-check is approximately zero, since *those* invocations of fsck have never discovered FS corruption on my systems.'

jurov: oh it goes on

jurov: !s MPEX PAID

assbot: 86 results for 'MPEX PAID' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=MPEX+PAID

thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you must run a tight ship

jurov: kakobrekla: ^ why S.MPOE/S.BBET isn't there since october?

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: that was a quote

kakobrekla: hm, could be some skript is off or mp is runner or both!

asciilifeform: and here's pure shitgnome gold:

asciilifeform: 'Please could we stick to the technical aspects of this problem. Attempts to apportion responsibilty rarely lead anywhere.'

jurov: ;;calc 2.90430618/2

gribble: 1.45215309

asciilifeform: ( https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/12/msg00327.html )

assbot: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd? ... ( http://bit.ly/1AUc1Yh )

kakobrekla: jurov were they paid out on mpex?

jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET says dividend was 1.44548619 , but monthly report and my records say 1.45215309

gribble: The operation succeeded.

jurov: kakobrekla: both november and december divs were paid

kakobrekla: its been fixed for the tax i think

jurov: but assbot was silent

kakobrekla: aha its me then, classic.

jurov: and i forgot to process them on coinbr

asciilifeform: check out where the fuckers say 'grub [bootloader] should detect an impending fsck' - because it is the responsibility of the entire planet, they think, to compensate for their idiocy

jurov: and of course, this is the moment i discover conflicting information

kakobrekla: jurov see mps edit http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-november-2014-statement/

assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) November 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBo9zP )

jurov: asciilifeform no tthey want to embrace and extend grub, too

kakobrekla: is that causing the diff?

asciilifeform: jurov: only a matter of time

asciilifeform: jurov: and, like an inverse king midas, once they touch something - it stays touched.

kakobrekla: i thought midas had a permanent touch

asciilifeform: inverse in the sense that things turn to shit, not gold.

kakobrekla: ah ah

kakobrekla: to me gold is shit.

asciilifeform: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/12/msg00349.html

assbot: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd? ... ( http://bit.ly/1AUdoWQ )

asciilifeform: ^ mega-lol

asciilifeform: somebody admits, it appears, that this was actually a bug in systemd

jurov: kakobrekla: what you gave me is november report that concerns december dividend

asciilifeform: which, it turns out, the systemd pushers reflexively defended as a feature. ☟︎

jurov: kakobrekla: i am concerned w/ october report and november div

kakobrekla: ah

kakobrekla: im clearly all conzufed today

jurov: kakobrekla: or you+mp don't have exactly 50% of shares?

jurov: ;;calc 305.76474957/2

gribble: 152.882374785

jurov: 152.87354128 << mpex.co says this is nov s.mpoe dividend

jurov: and 152.882374785 is from report

kakobrekla: we have more than 50% of the shares but never exactly the same amount due to how the ipo was structured

jurov: or it's the tax? october reports say nothing about it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063519 = 3.0489 BTC [+]

kakobrekla: nfi

jurov: interesting, coinbr insists it received about 341 satoshi/share for s.mpoe on 2014-12-10 17:03:46+00

jurov: but mpex.co says 17 satoshi

kakobrekla: im lucky if i get anything!

jurov: anyone else can confirm they received divs correctly?

jurov: kako stfu. you're lucky you aren't recieving other people's moneny you have to account for correctly

jurov: not like coinbr is some damn startup that can do whatever it pleases

kakobrekla: well you are wrong there.

jurov: go on

mats: flee!

kakobrekla: i am receiving others people money and accounting for it correctly. also, incidentally i havent received my own part for November yet, so i made a joke.

jurov: okay. you could have known me, that i'm not in mood for joked while dealing with this.

jurov: *jokes

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 894 @ 0.0012 = 1.0728 BTC {3}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00063783 = 8.1642 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8800 @ 0.0002209 = 1.9439 BTC [-]

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1618 @ 0.0012 = 1.9416 BTC

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00063872 = 11.3692 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20237 @ 0.00064618 = 13.0767 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00064167 = 14.9509 BTC [-] {2}

mats: http://sputniknews.com/radio_burning_point/20141218/1016001652.html

assbot: America’s Big Five Are Plunging the World Into Another Banking Crisis / Sputnik International ... ( http://bit.ly/1DZwEbq )

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0006416 = 2.7589 BTC [-]

mod6: ;;bc,stats

jurov: sugh. two bugreports sent to mp

jurov: either i'm making an ass of myself or mp utterly botched div payouts in december

jurov: now i know why i first completely forgot and then inexplicably avoided to look at it

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00064618 = 6.9787 BTC [+]

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.0006416 = 14.5322 BTC [-]

kakobrekla: no STFU KAKO!

jurov: sorry

kakobrekla: lol no need

jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2014/12/reddit-goes-full-redditard-with-reddit-notes << any chance reddit will get DERPified?

assbot: Reddit Goes Full Redditard with Reddit Notes | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1wTcJpD )

gribble: The operation succeeded.

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00064618 = 18.4161 BTC [+]

jurov: http://mpex.co?mpsic=D.RDDT hahaha

mod6: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 59 minutes and 55 seconds

kakobrekla: ;;tslb

gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 16 minutes, and 58 seconds

assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1268 @ 0.0012 = 1.5216 BTC

jurov: is it possible to find incoming transactions by source address in bitcoind?

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00065578 = 7.8366 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16621 @ 0.0006577 = 10.9316 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00066577 = 11.0518 BTC [+] {2}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00067037 = 17.7648 BTC [+] {5}

assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11244 @ 0.00068912 = 7.7485 BTC [+]