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mircea_popescu: anyone want btcbase.org / net / etc ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00030229 = 3.4763 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Could be useful for hosting a qntra BTC price index. I'm thinking a static page <body><h1>$5000/BTC</h1></body>
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: you want it ?
BingoBoingo: Not yet. I'll drink a bit, come up with some ideas, and see if any ideas survive the hangover tomorrow afternoon.
mircea_popescu: cool.
asciilifeform: 'record locator no valido: xxxxx'
asciilifeform: ^ airline
mircea_popescu: ?!
asciilifeform angrily dusts off phone
BingoBoingo: Maybe email Orlov and see if you can borrow the Tu-95 in the embassy basement
asciilifeform has never before beheld such retardation
danielpbarron: What's known as "Internet Brigading" - the situation where a lot of people with no money and no practical importance complain loudly, as if anyone cares what the stupid poor say or think on any topic. << I had this happen to me over a particularly offensive tweet that got featured on some blog
asciilifeform: web checkin widget fails silently; airline's phone is eternal ad loop recording
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you get airline ticket scammed or what's the idea ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not detectably scammed, but the confirmation www does not appear to work.
mircea_popescu: tbh half working shit is par foir the course.
mircea_popescu: it DOES have rounded corners, right ?
asciilifeform: certainly!
asciilifeform: and a meg or two of js
asciilifeform: (tried on six different browsers, to be sure)
asciilifeform: phone monkey says 'system issue, our apologies, get your confirmation at the airport'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00030231 = 2.9324 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: sounds about right.
mats: i loled at the use of the Gadsden flag in that blog post ☟︎
asciilifeform: after hour of phone tag, i get them to send me some proof that reservation existed... it turns out to be some random person's reservation for entirely other route
asciilifeform goes to next level of phone tag
asciilifeform: monkey claims that 'it works' on their end
funkenstein_: that history of pron is fabulous.. welcome back trilema :D
asciilifeform: but refuses to actually do the confirmation
williamdunne: !s way-back machine
assbot: 3 results for 'way-back machine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=way-back+machine
williamdunne: mircea, you said I should ask as to why options are no longer issued on MPEX when trilema is back up ☟︎
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: It's already in there in the early 2014 (February, March?) statements
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Basically price signal sucks, price aggreators really suck
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Thanks Bingo. I'd love to see them in the future
williamdunne: Presuming the above is solved of course!
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Don't take my word, trilema's up dig for the posts
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: It would also be interesting to read your counter-complaint - I can only imagine it follows along the lines of your correspondence with the SEC, but with a few more insults thrown in for good measure
BingoBoingo: Oh, scoopbutt has been missing...
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/brawker-closing/
assbot: Brawker Closing | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1PKcTbj )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/police-send-spyware-of-lawyer-for-whistle-blower/
assbot: Police Send Spyware Of Lawyer For Whistle-Blower | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1PKcZQb )
BingoBoingo: *title corrected
williamdunne: The redditards were moaning about how much of their stolen money was going to be wasted on new appeal cases because of it
BingoBoingo: Where's this complaining
BingoBoingo might consider spending more time in the United States to do law school and become a "Doing it doesn't mean you're guilty" lawyer
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Congrats, you've been hanging around long enough to make it to the nearly "useful confusion" stage
BingoBoingo: !up virtuals
felipelalli: thanks BingoBoingo! I'd like to read more the logs, it is my TODO list, I just can't priorize too much it in this moment of my life. Also my English is not good as I wish so it is a little hard to me understand everything in full and because that I became a little hesitant to participate.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Well, the second best way to learn a language is reading stuff.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: True! Most of my reading is technical stuff, because I am a developer and I am totally focused in it now, learning and developing systems. But it is totally different than the "natural language". I lived 1 year in Australia, it helped me a lot, but I don't feel very comfortable yet.
felipelalli: This is hard to me yet: https://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/collocations.htm
assbot: Collocations | EnglishClub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PKgwy6 )
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Well, most of the useful subset of English is the technical/business subset. Beyond that the barrister's subset of Englis is useful.
BingoBoingo: Ah, yeah. Only way to get collocations is reading fiction and listening to speakers
adlai: english: yet another common business-oriented language
BingoBoingo: English is COBOL for the mind
adlai: p much.
adlai: teaching it should be a criminal offense!
felipelalli: : )
adlai: speaking it, a misdemeanor
BingoBoingo: English isn't the worst though. I'm pretty sure modern Hebrew has all of the historical legitimacy of lojban
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82314 @ 0.00030235 = 24.8876 BTC [+]
adlai: hebrew is an interesting language... quite regular, quite abstract. basically what you'd expect of a [re]constructed language that gets developed almost exclusively by either military slang or theological discourse
BingoBoingo also thinks Prussia should have been surrendered as reparations for the purposes of Establishing a Jewish state after WWII
adlai: well that would've sucked for all the prussians, although i guess they could've been deported to palestine, or uganda ☟︎
BingoBoingo imagines alt-Cold War tempered by Franco-Russian anti-semitism
adlai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Scheme
assbot: Uganda Scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1atL71Y )
BingoBoingo: adlai: Nah the Prussians could suffer in Austria. Austrians birthed the Fuher anyways
adlai: the trouble is that the same troublemakers who made trouble, would've made it anyways, even if offered japan along with prussia
adlai: because of all the milk and honey
felipelalli: I heard Korean is a very good (almost artificial) language, like Esperanto.
adlai isn't sure esperanto meets any definition of "very good" beyond "has been force-taught to a few kids"
BingoBoingo: adlai: Isn't the dead sea at historic low levels? Canaan is just as much shitty desert as California except it's been abused much longer.
adlai: oh there are plans now
adlai: http://phys.org/news/2013-08-dead-sea-red-environmental-hackles.html
assbot: Dead Sea, Red Sea plan raises environmental hackles ... ( http://bit.ly/1atLwBw )
adlai: "The desalinated water will go south to (the Jordanian town of) Aqaba, while salt water will be pumped to the Dead Sea,"
BingoBoingo: Not to mention the whole part where Canaan is near the center of the former Ottman empire ought to make the area less desirable... Especially after what happened to the Armenians which was still rather recent...
adlai: eh?
adlai: what does the footstool kingdom have to do with the price of eggs in afghanistan
BingoBoingo: Maybe a little, maybe a lot?
adlai: maybe somewhat, or maybe not
BingoBoingo: Just though think of the awesome stoner comedies the Moses bush could have inspired if the Dutch and Jews were neighbors
adlai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbkduivPBzg
assbot: ‫הדג נחש - מה נעשה Hadag Nahash - Ma Naase‬‎ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1atMaik )
adlai: video is kinda garbage though
adlai: this is what israel's stoners turned out, in isolation
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
BingoBoingo: French also has become kind of a fail language. Too Anglicized last century
adlai: oueh
BingoBoingo: ;;ud minivan
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minivan | Similar to the shocker (2 fingers in the pink, 1 in the stink), the act of putting 2 fingers in the vagina and a fist up the ass. Called the minivan because it fits 2 in the ...
BingoBoingo: O.o
BingoBoingo: ;;ud manchurian handshake
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=manchurian+handshake | that bitches ass was so loose, that i gave myself a manchurian handshake; i showed that bitch whats up. by asjkdfhlgajhgk;ajd;sdklfjadkfkasdjfkjq234lkr l24ktj 8iu ...
mod6: haha minivan
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-04-2015#1101664 << shit i didn't even know it had a name. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2015 00:42:57; mats: i loled at the use of the Gadsden flag in that blog post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27269 @ 0.00029998 = 8.1802 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: congrats to mircea_popescu on ru hosting!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-04-2015#1101672 << ah yes, ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2015 00:51:45; williamdunne: mircea, you said I should ask as to why options are no longer issued on MPEX when trilema is back up
asciilifeform: слава отечеству! (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: oops
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ < ☟︎
assbot: MPOE, February 2014 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1E0KzP1 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually guy's ukrainian.
asciilifeform bona fide ukr per usg passport
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
asciilifeform wonders if he can get a new one when o. falls
mircea_popescu: anyway i should prolly publish the bw graph for the week lol. once it came back online it spent a few hours at 2MB/s
mircea_popescu: apparently everyone missed it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 2MB/s of vaguely humanlike, or of ntp etc ?
mircea_popescu: bout half humans half google
mircea_popescu: apparently google misses trilema, even sent me an email.
asciilifeform: l0l wut
mircea_popescu: i kid you not.
asciilifeform: this exists?!
mircea_popescu: yup
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Does exist
mircea_popescu: felipelalli the funny thing about english as used here is that it's not really familiar to about 90% of native english speakers either.
asciilifeform: 'english as she is spoken' (tm)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When missing sometimes google does a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5lzRHrGeg
assbot: Carly Rae Jepsen - I Really Like You - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1E0L23q )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-04-2015#1101708 << you don't understand mitteleuropa. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2015 01:34:43; adlai: well that would've sucked for all the prussians, although i guess they could've been deported to palestine, or uganda
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the jews didn't WANT austria.
adlai: "english as we mangle it in assetistan"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24314 @ 0.00029385 = 7.1447 BTC [-] {3}
williamdunne: Just read this comment from a couple years back, speaks strongly:
williamdunne: "This is actually a very nice write up. Well done.
williamdunne: The only really amazing thing to me is that we haven't seen this entry on the list:
williamdunne: "Shady ROMANIAN character opens up unregistered bitcoin options exchange (complete with HTML from 1993) on his personal website (which also hosts porn) and charges exorbitant fees just to join, while constantly accusing pretty much everyone else in the bitcoin community of being a scammer, and, along with his (possibly virtual) -PR lackey, acts like a loudmouthed douchebag ... but apperantly scams no
williamdunne: one." (yet?)
williamdunne: Thank you Mircea for your services to the bitcoin community and for apparently being an honest and trustworthy entrepreneurial businessman. (Making you perhaps the only honest and trustworthy Romanian I know.)
williamdunne: Moral of the story? It can be hard to judge people."
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-04-2015#1101749 - thanks, pretty interesting. Nice screw up by ANX there ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2015 02:14:11; mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ <
mircea_popescu: lol that's from like... 2012 ?
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: The best part is the html comes from no earlier than from some bit later than 1993
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Yep
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Impressive how accurate they are, guessing they must know some backstory
williamdunne: >while constantly accusing pretty much everyone else in the bitcoin community of being a scammer
williamdunne: Even more impressive, because it was almost always right
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: At that time that was written author had plenty of history to work with.
BingoBoingo: !up DigitalDayTrader
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: I need to catch up
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Today I am drinking Vodka to celebrate the advent of more of Bitcoin's history involving MPOE/MPEx than not
williamdunne: Ah I guess its about 3 years since MPEX and 6 years since bitcoin. Thats like a bank lasting from the 1820s in the fiat world
williamdunne: I think MPEX needs a logo carved in stone, preferably with some sort of bird of prey on it
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: A GreyHawk???
williamdunne: Suitable
mircea_popescu: wow BingoBoingo that's a thing by now huh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah
mircea_popescu: cool beans.
williamdunne: I had (what I think) is an interesting idea the other day. Which could be rather educational for some people and entertaining for others
williamdunne: A website focussed at schools/universities/whatever, that would allow you to login via Facebook and "anonymously" make posts about other attendees. And then several months into the operation, slowly begin revealing the names of the OPs - with the option of paying a (bitcoin) bribe to have it not revealed
williamdunne: You just know that if you managed to get a few people on it they would all be dumb enough to sign on with facebook
williamdunne: See if you can throw some police stations/prisons/parliaments in there
mircea_popescu: i don't get what would be the point.
mircea_popescu: you could just as well hire indonesians to write random shit. there's a bunch of "reviews" sites spamming this crap, there was one even discussed in the logs, made an entry about "the bitbet casino"
mircea_popescu: very cringy-obvious never even saw the site.
mircea_popescu: supposedly someone cares enough to pay them, but i kinda doubt it's worth anyone's time.
williamdunne: I thought it would be interesting to see what people are willing to do with anonymity, and what they would pay to keep it
williamdunne: !s spam bitbet
assbot: 3 results for 'spam bitbet' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spam+bitbet
mircea_popescu: !s bitbet review
assbot: 3 results for 'bitbet review' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitbet+review
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: i dont actually recall wtf it was called
williamdunne: Lots of bit* or *coins, while its good for recognition awful for memorising.
mircea_popescu: it's awful for everything really.
williamdunne: At least when you see it you know that its got something to do with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: or aspires to.
williamdunne: True, but still in the broad sense
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: well... that's all for me. later folks.
williamdunne: bye
BingoBoingo: OMG mircea_popescu discovered why even though Islands are shitty the Phillipines interest me as an expatriation point
mats: mircea_popescu: what's 50mb/s cost you in ar? ☟︎
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> ... the Phillipines interest me as an expatriation point << afaik - worst of all worlds: thoroughly usg-owned, but with all the 'pleasures' of the Turd World
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huge fans of US in general, in Midano with petite al queda USG nexus, but corrupt enough fot civilized living
BingoBoingo can not recommend personal fantasy escapes to anyone else
BingoBoingo: !up Pierre_Rochard
BingoBoingo: !up NewLiberty
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24275 @ 0.00028114 = 6.8247 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: CUffy Nigs perserved in Atlas Shrugged Pt III
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-04-2015#1101825 << wasn't in ar, was server to server, and notrly 50mb, 50MB. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2015 03:35:49; mats: mircea_popescu: what's 50mb/s cost you in ar?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00029046 = 2.2365 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl if i recall corectly and you have hosting on the blogs.polimedia.us server with me, please change the ns to ns1.trilema.com ns2.trilema.com the old server is going down. the account has been already moved.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7448 @ 0.00028327 = 2.1098 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15165 @ 0.0002845 = 4.3144 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: the morning lulz. http://friskyfairy.com/wp/blog/2015/04/10/1325/
davout: mircea_popescu: first comment by victoria: "Doctorate in Human Sexuality (DHS). "
mircea_popescu: mmmmyeah
davout: so TIL that testnet doesn't behave like main net and will allow blocks of diff 1 to be mined whenever it "has been too long" between two blocks
davout: "let's make something to test our stuff, but let's make it behave differently"
davout: so much braindamage...
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: because you know, why reset it.
mircea_popescu: toohard.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21234 @ 0.00028885 = 6.1334 BTC [+] {2}
davout: correct solution is "make it possible to configure an arbitrary genesis block"
mircea_popescu: that's what i mean.
mircea_popescu: and iirc that was available. at least at some point.
davout: nah, what has been done, is this -> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/98ba262a48b66cae8478525e809898512e997948
assbot: Reset testnet with a new genesis block · bitcoin/bitcoin@98ba262 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1cveJh2 )
davout: hardcode a different genesis block, but it's still hardcoded
mircea_popescu: well yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16296 @ 0.00028119 = 4.5823 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0002888 = 3.2923 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00030235 = 1.8595 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11833 @ 0.00029481 = 3.4885 BTC [-]
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo re http://qntra.net/2015/04/police-send-spyware-of-lawyer-for-whistle-blower/ how's one know it was intentional, as opposed to you know, tjhe whole department's infected with everything ?
assbot: Police Send Spyware To Lawyer For Whistle-Blower | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1HrsRU6 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00030235 = 4.8981 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/open-parasitic-p2p-relay/ << as promised few days ago.
assbot: Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2LXnq )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll deturd the pdf of the affidavit (probably should have earlier), in the context of the rest of the misconduct it accidentallied its way there isn't too plausible.
mircea_popescu: aha l
mircea_popescu: k*
BingoBoingo: IT guy went to suspicious seminars between the filing of the case and the delivery of evidence
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: mircea_popescu: re: your p2p rfp: guess what's in my bag...
ascii_modem: and yes, i'm in an airport queue, l0l, laugh all ya want
mats: http://recode.net/2015/04/14/nokia-agrees-to-buy-alcatel-lucent-for-16-6-billion/ via HN
assbot: Nokia Agrees to Buy Alcatel-Lucent for $16.6 Billion | Re/code ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2Qfez )
ascii_modem: lol nokia still exists?!?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: updated to include a link to the de-pdf'd affidavit. Lots of exhibits so txt didn't work.
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/bundles/bales/
assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2RXN8 )
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: re: turdware piece: probably normal infector
ascii_modem: mega-deniable
ascii_modem: run moar winblows (tm)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00030235 = 1.8443 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ascii_modem: If you take a look at the affidavit exhibit D is enlightening
BingoBoingo: It's pages 31 through 33
ascii_modem: aha saw
ascii_modem: policedept will answer 'our antivirus was out of date' etc
ascii_modem: usg wins this one - because alternative - holding pd to hygienic standards - is 'skies-fall' mega-inconceivable
mats: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/14/south-africas-ageing-white-mercenaries-who-helped-turn-tide-on-boko-haram
assbot: South Africa's ageing white mercenaries who helped turn tide on Boko Haram | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2TRgP )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3692 @ 0.00030212 = 1.1154 BTC [-]
ascii_modem: there are 'places' to which usg - while exists as such - simply will -not- go, and where the question can only be re: -which- specific set of sophistries will be made use of to avoid going there
ascii_modem: consider - close to 100% of u.s. juridicial whatevers, have winblows in the loop
ascii_modem: everything from the stenotype transcriber to the case law search to... you get the drift
mats: http://freebeacon.com/issues/pentagon-deploys-may-i-kiss-you-training/
assbot: Pentagon Deploys ‘May I Kiss You?’ Training | Washington Free Beacon ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2UFlA )
mats: can testify to experiencing such training -- has such gems as 'if you're intoxicated you can't consent', up to and including both parties effectively raping each other if they both happen to be inebriated
mats: http://www.devttys0.com/2015/04/what-the-ridiculous-fuck-d-link/
assbot: What the Ridiculous Fuck, D-Link?! - /dev/ttyS0 ... ( http://bit.ly/1b2UZ3M )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00030043 = 5.4228 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: mats: precisely same story as microshit's 'stuxnet' patch - and hell knows how many others
mats: hue hue
ascii_modem: bbl - airplane
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16455 @ 0.00030235 = 4.9752 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00030264 = 7.6871 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00028056 / 0.00029815 / 0.00030302 (844712 shares, 251.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00023945 / 0.00028215 / 0.00030302 (33104839 shares, 9,340.60 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00027063 / 0.00033536 (112962651 shares, 30,571.56 BTC)
danielpbarron: height=324341 vs height=223552
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00028207 = 5.0914 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: nice danielpbarron
danielpbarron: http://friskyfairy.com/wp/blog/2015/04/10/1325/#comment-47836 << LOL the link is removed but this comment is surely about me
assbot: Not Meat, Not Quite a Person: How Fetlife Failed Women Under 30 | ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJmnVE )
danielpbarron: He's the only person on Twitter who is regularly posting links to that blog site. So the accounts must be connected somehow. Based on that account's Tweets, there's a lot of hostility towards women, feminists, "SJW's", and women related things.
danielpbarron: actually can you not approve my previous comment for moderation. i just realized such a post could direct an entire hate mob at a twitter account and that's not responsible for me to do. This guy could just be a fan of the guy who posted the list. I don't have any solid proof, and even if there was, it would be a matter for the victims and the police only.
danielpbarron: wouldn't be the first time
lobbes: 'I don't have any solid proof, and even if there was, it would be a matter for the victims and the police only' < l0l
lobbes: silly how no anger is being directed toward the faulty security of the site itself
lobbes: just 'shoot all messengers!11!'
chetty: lobbes, if people ever actually targeted their anger at the real root of any issue the world would be very different
mats: http://foreignaffairs.com/articles/141527/ray-takeyh/what-really-happened-in-iran Foreign Affairs at work rewriting history
assbot: The Truth About the CIA and Iran | Foreign Affairs ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJzV3I )
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danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/notwaving/status/588365461907189761
assbot: /hashtag/NotMeat?src=hash, Not Quite a Person: How /FetLife Failed Women Under 30 /JohnBaku http://t.co/ZdZYIvq1WA http://t.co/TNdheoBnFb
pete_dushenski: mats: won't load for me. too much js me thinks.
pete_dushenski: probably not a huge loss either way
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: sorta lulzy trollin'
danielpbarron: i'm cracking myself up
pete_dushenski: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/shopify-to-raise-100m-in-toronto-new-york-ipo-1.3033009 << canadian success!
assbot: Shopify to raise $100M in Toronto, New York IPO - Business - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJF2Rf )
chetty: eh you dont like what someone says "you're gross", wow how insightful :P
pete_dushenski: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toyota-moving-corolla-production-to-mexico-from-cambridge-ont-1.3033661 << canadian failure!
assbot: Toyota moving Corolla production to Mexico from Cambridge, Ont. - Business - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJF6Rc )
pete_dushenski: so the great white north is left with oilsands and e-commerce, while the mexicans take over the added value industries in the way that china did in the last few decades.
pete_dushenski: that institutional revolutionary party, like the communist party of china, does capitalism better than the rest of the socialist pretenders
pete_dushenski: cihuatlan will rise again!
mircea_popescu: o hai
pete_dushenski: good morning!
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: all your ducks in a row for c3 ?
adlai: that's not how you spell cthulu
mircea_popescu: so far not bad
pete_dushenski: adlai: hm ya, didn't seem quite right..
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well i look ever-so-forward to the follow-up articles providing morsels of dispensed wisdom a la dragonfly piece
mircea_popescu: hehe mebbe yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00028321 = 2.1666 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: hola chicas
mircea_popescu: hey there
mircea_popescu: how's portland
ben_vulpes: clear, chilly
ben_vulpes: should surprise everyone with some rain in the afternoon
ben_vulpes: the normal routine
mircea_popescu: aha
ben_vulpes: and ba?
ben_vulpes: <davout> [08:21] so TIL that testnet doesn't behave like main net and will allow blocks of diff 1 to be mined whenever it "has been too long" between two blocks << this testnet stuff is bullhockey
ben_vulpes: just make an isolated network and watch it go
ben_vulpes: diddle as desired
davout: ben_vulpes: ideally configure an arbitrary genesis block in config file
ben_vulpes: remind me of why the genesis block matters please?
ben_vulpes: or is this the "rip out all magic constants" thread again
davout: ben_vulpes: if you want a different testnet you just need a different genesis block and a couple ports of your liking
ben_vulpes: no, i don't want a different testnet
davout: well, i do
ben_vulpes: testnet has diverged so far from mainnet that i don't even really understand the point of it anymore
davout: so random fucktards can't point their asics at it preventing me from mining with a cpu
davout: ben_vulpes: define "diverged"
ben_vulpes: well enlighten my sorely sleep deprived ass - what's the use case for testnet?
davout: paymium has a staging environment, and a sandbox environment, both run against testnet
davout: which makes testing easier on a few accounts
ben_vulpes: "diverged" << the whole block diff=1 thing, f.ex.
davout: yea, that's absolutely retarded
davout: if you want some "test thing" make it behave like "real thing"
ben_vulpes: mas o menos that it's not actually a proxy for bitcoin anymore
ben_vulpes: there are odd transaction relay rules etc i think
davout: ugh, didn't know about that
davout: if you have a configurable genesis block it removes the need for testnet entirely
ben_vulpes: yeah there's a mess of branches throughout the codebase that do different things based on "if testnet"
ben_vulpes: no dude but listen
ben_vulpes: if you set your staging and sandboxen up with bitcoinds that only talk to other bitcoinds you control that have never seen the mainchain
davout: testing is for faggots amirite
ben_vulpes: you've just made your own testnet that's...bitcoin.
davout: yep
davout: except i want my customers and partners to use the sandbox for their integrations
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> testnet has diverged so far from mainnet that i don't even really understand the point of it anymore << exactly. which is what he was saying.
ben_vulpes: ooh sticky
davout: the idea is that they can conveniently request coins from the testnet faucet, or mine them, and use them as play money
ben_vulpes: davout: your integrators should be savvy enough to boot into your private testnet.
ben_vulpes: mine their own coins.
mircea_popescu: but it would be a private main net
mircea_popescu: NOT testnet.
ben_vulpes: ding ding ding
davout: and it also has the added advantage that i don't have to do withdrawals on staging/sandbox
mircea_popescu: everyone aspiring to mpexness.
davout: ben_vulpes: i would need a faucet also
mats debating whether to buy the Apple Watch to exploit it
ben_vulpes: davout: and so?
mircea_popescu: mats cheap seems to work best for that
ben_vulpes: arbeit macht frei
davout: so i'm lazy
ben_vulpes: pay someone?
davout: i'm jewish
mats: lol.
ben_vulpes: no you're french
davout: bitches don't know bout my venn diagrams
mircea_popescu: vendi-agrams amirite.
ben_vulpes: venti ngrams
ben_vulpes: engrams
mats: got a few comedians in here.
mircea_popescu: don't hate us because we're talented mats
mircea_popescu: ftr, ben_vulpes hasn't slept in five days and just had three triple ristrettos.
mats: thats a good idea
pete_dushenski: speaking of talented, scoop : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/15/the-biggest-question-in-economy-today-is-all-about-the-billions/
assbot: The biggest question in economy today is all about the billions. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeP0VO )
mats: avoid sudo at all costs mate
mircea_popescu: mv / * { <<.>>
ben_vulpes: now that's some fd redirecting black magic
ben_vulpes: those were triples!?
ben_vulpes: sheesh i better give up on this nap
mircea_popescu: https://archive.org/stream/socialismofshaw00shaw/socialismofshaw00shaw_djvu.txt < original
assbot: Full text of "The socialism of Shaw" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OePMlG )
pete_dushenski: a nice.
mircea_popescu: bah fucking bs
mircea_popescu: nah its some "commentary"
mats: what kinda dude loses sleep on a vaca. come on man.
mats: i know, i know, 'small bidness owner'.
ben_vulpes: wait aren't you the one exhibiting early schizo patterns?
mats: ... :(
pete_dushenski: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/author?name=Shaw%2c%20Bernard%2c%201856-1950 << a useful collection of some of shaw's better known plays
assbot: Project Gutenberg Titles by Bernard Shaw (Shaw, Bernard, 1856-1950) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeRhAe )
mats: https://github.com/snare/voltron/blob/master/README.md purty colors
assbot: voltron/README.md at master · snare/voltron · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeRjIg )
mircea_popescu: he is ?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-04-2015#1094665 << you'd know better than i ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 14:53:59; mircea_popescu: you know it's a major sign of early onset schizophrenia among other unsavory things ?
mircea_popescu: i'll be sure to save this for october.
mats: what happens in october?
mircea_popescu: vulpes stop sleeping
ben_vulpes: hyuuuu
ben_vulpes: that's early onset adulthood tho
mircea_popescu: same difference
ben_vulpes: dementia mebbe
mats: ah, babby is born
pete_dushenski: papa vulps !
ben_vulpes: first con scoop!
pete_dushenski: this is definitely going on qntra
pete_dushenski: !b 4 ✂︎
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1B4VJ5H.txt )
ben_vulpes: lolk
pete_dushenski: how's lady v doing so far ?
ben_vulpes: made it through trimester i with flying colors
mats: got a baby registry?
mircea_popescu: like for slaves ?
mats: wat
ben_vulpes: wouldn't know what to do with a slave
mircea_popescu: ;;google slave registry
gribble: The Slave Register - Master/slave, O&P, SLRN, certificates: <https://www.slaveregister.com/>; TSR: Registration Numbers - The Slave Register: <https://www.slaveregister.com/about/numbers>; TSR: Registration How To? - The Slave Register: <https://www.slaveregister.com/about/reghowto> ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ^ pretty lulzy shit from a bitcoin perspective btw.
mircea_popescu: "centralize all the things"
mircea_popescu: basically the underground just aims to be counter.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: well mazel tov !
ben_vulpes: unless the slave stamp is tattooed or branded it's a yawwwwner
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: since this might be news, a baby registry is like a wedding registry, where the expectant couple makes a list of all the things they want from a particular store
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: gratzi
pete_dushenski: then throw a party and people buy them things from that list
ben_vulpes: yeah lady v's working on that thing
mircea_popescu: https://www.slaveregister.com/slrnpictures/large/1379768169.545-756-520.1813.1813.jpg ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1H84JFF )
ben_vulpes: heh nb.jpg
pete_dushenski: ^sorta like lady v's famous hash, neh ?
pete_dushenski: the one with her and her friend ?
ben_vulpes: some parallel mebbe
pete_dushenski: difference being : permanence
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, https://www.slaveregister.com/slrnpictures/large/1323785056.959-672-577.2670.2128.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1H85te2 )
ben_vulpes: aha fetlife also does the retarded "U NO CAN DL IMAGES" js
ben_vulpes: ah except they're doing it with css
ben_vulpes: https://flpics2.a.ssl.fastly.net/14/14983/0004e1a2-e8e6-5c37-8c6a-36342ed018a4_720.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1H85VsL )
pete_dushenski: because screen captures were never invented
mircea_popescu: except that's not theirs ?
mircea_popescu: in related news, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vampirefanged-trucker-who-held-women-as-sex-slaves-and-drilled-down-their-teeth-had-four-more-victims-9860620.html
assbot: ‘Vampire-fanged’ trucker who held women as sex slaves and drilled down their teeth 'had four more victims' - Americas - World - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1H86sL4 )
ben_vulpes: no but nominally this is one of their users: https://flpics0.a.ssl.fastly.net/14/14983/0004e179-595f-1664-2fb6-b4b4faec6217_958.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1H86t1Q )
ben_vulpes: "used a small drill to drill down to drill down" << sigh
mircea_popescu: what do you want, it's the press.
mircea_popescu: cheaper to write than to read.
mircea_popescu: by the way, i hear angelina jolie's cutting further bits off ?
ben_vulpes: mats: that voltron thinger looks neat
mircea_popescu: that woman's either got some pretty serious mental issues or else she's like, an experiment in transhumanism
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Her way of going cancer free is to simply get rid of all the parts
mircea_popescu: she's not even got cancer, just "might"
pete_dushenski: absence of evidence != evidence of absence so better cut things off... just to be safe.
hanbot: wait, *off*, as opposed to out?!
pete_dushenski: could be either, really
mircea_popescu: im waiting for her takin ga kidney out to replace it with thiel's latest invention.
hanbot: what else is there to cut off tho?
pete_dushenski: leg cancer ? off with yer leg
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pete_dushenski not a medical doctor
pete_dushenski more thinking along the lines of 'chick cancer'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: isn't it odd that people can't sell their own organs ?
mircea_popescu: it's politically impossible. they're more valuable as votes than as parts.
pete_dushenski: and equally insane that many people volunteer to donate chunks of their organs... to absolutel strangers ?
BingoBoingo: Most valuable organs are going to come from specially farmed teenagers.
pete_dushenski: with that, i'm off. safe travels to all and another hearty congratulations to ben_vulpes !!
ben_vulpes: later pete
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2013#381188 << apropos of not a whole lot my brother played the villian in this musical ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2013 04:48:54; asciilifeform: 'it's a Privilege to pee!'
davout: mircea_popescu: "it's politically impossible. they're more valuable as votes than as parts." <<< lol nice
davout: giving still allowed
ben_vulpes: "ph4mly and phr13ndz only"
ben_vulpes: otherwise there's a deserving young man we want to give the gift of driving his car into a tree two years from the transplant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8305 @ 0.00029377 = 2.4398 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00029377 = 2.9377 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00029377 = 2.4824 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00029377 = 2.7467 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: https://bter.com/article/4992
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danielpbarron: ^ comic sans text scraped from image
trinque: danielpbarron: easy gains?! where do I sign?
ben_vulpes: ahhh i fell down a tweethole
ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/ALLCAPSBRO
assbot: HEALTH GOTH BRO (@ALLCAPSBRO) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1JKZThx )
mats: http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/middleeast/iraq-isis/
assbot: Ramadi could fall to ISIS offensive, Iraq official says - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1JL0yPO )
mats: meanwhile the west is spinning the absolute ruin of Tikrit as some kind of win against IS
mats: IS leaves the city a smoking crater in the ground with 2k IA troops dead, and traded about 1k IS souls for the effort
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 58 @ 0.03944713 = 2.2879 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00030226 = 4.0201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00029159 = 1.4871 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00029159 = 3.9656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00030227 = 3.1436 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Ramadi could fall to ISIS offensive, Iraq official says << heh.
mircea_popescu: mats teh us & allies "west" is in the position of the prison bitch that "dominates".
danielpbarron: https://modelviewculture.com/news/what-the-fetlife-meatlist-tells-us-about-bdsm-culture
assbot: What The Fetlife Meatlist Tells Us About BDSM Culture | Model View Culture ... ( http://bit.ly/1EHGa29 )
danielpbarron: The creator of this list claims that he is motivated by the altruistic goal of pressuring Bitlove (the creators of Fetlife) into implementing security fixes to prevent these sort of attacks happening in the future. Unfortunately, the so-called "meat" advertised by the list is comprised exclusively of female-identifying members under the age of 30.
danielpbarron: The information has been curated for and advertised to an audience of predominantly cis male sexual predators, that now have a well-laid out database of disproportionately vulnerable and inexperienced potential victims who may be unlikely to expose their alternative lifestyle by going to the police or perusing other means of defense.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00030302 = 1.7121 BTC [+]
mats: danielpbarron: i'm surprised you haven't harassed her over twitter yet
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/TheFriskyFairy/status/588376214202494976
assbot: /hashtag/NotMeat?src=hash, Not Quite a Person: How /FetLife Failed Women Under 30 /JohnBaku http://t.co/ZdZYIvq1WA http://t.co/TNdheoBnFb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48584 @ 0.00030302 = 14.7219 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00028764 = 7.1335 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00028031 = 2.1304 BTC [-]
williamdunne: Why do people not try to secure data they want to remain private?!
jurov: that's not a part of consumer expectation
jurov: at least not at first
williamdunne: Hmm.
williamdunne: "No this is private data"
williamdunne: "How so?"
williamdunne: "Because I want it to be private"
williamdunne: (While leaving it on bench outside their house)
jurov: but they were private. till bad mircea made it available to predators.
williamdunne: If anything, I would say mircea raped them
williamdunne: When you think about it, that is really a logical comparison
williamdunne: (/s)
jurov: more like a revelation they have had aids (hope my tense is correct)
williamdunne: I believe that would be "they have aids"
williamdunne: will get aids, have had aids (was cured), have aids
jurov: ah. i meant, it must have been (lol) happening for some time
jurov: whoever wanted, pulled the data, too
lobbes: even if fetlife -had- proper security, there's still the whole 'once on internet, it is forever on internet' that people fail to grok
punkman: 'once on internet, it is forever on internet' << not really
punkman: shartups disappear all the time
lobbes: shartup might, but you have to think someone -may- have archived the history somewhere
funkenstein_: in this case it was published in a public forum for all to see
funkenstein_: only not originally indexed in an easy to use way
funkenstein_: what happens in vegasnet stays on vegasnet
lobbes: yeah, some d00d with no life could, in theory, spend a year screencapping and manually indexing each and every profile.
punkman: disks and backups fail too
punkman: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_Doornail
assbot: Deathwatch - Archiveteam ... ( http://bit.ly/1CLWwlu )
jurov: i'm sure nsa/palantir has bettr process than screencapping
funkenstein_: in other news, afaik all major 中国 banks require IE 10 for all online banking
funkenstein_: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/04/14/putin-bests-pop-stars-to-win-the-time-100-readers-poll/
assbot: Vladimir Putin is the most influential person in the world, Time readers say - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJuJGo )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00027988 = 7.8506 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: !up wao
lobbes: hmm, I'm probably doing it wrong, but I keep getting 'BAD signature' when trying to verify the README
lobbes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150318/README_f53e601e464af51f37d2b1f2ed38a7e8712a5462.txt.sig
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJx7gm )
lobbes: anyone else been able to verify?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00028082 = 2.5133 BTC [+]