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adlai: the easy way to prevent that is just not to record anything myself
adlai: whether the idea of recording the talk is sufficiently incepted in the public's mind that several random audience members are likely to have recorded - is another matter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.10920538 = 3.0578 BTC [-] {5}
ascii_modem: florida law re: recording scamz0rz << see earlier thread re: correct attitude to law.
adlai: !s correct attitude law from:ascii
assbot: 0 results for 'correct attitude law from:ascii' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=correct+attitude+law+from%3Aascii
ascii_modem: i am quite certain that, e.g., iran, has even more interesting laws. with even stiffer punishments for disobedience. should we all hire iranian lawyers, avoid ending up on heads-off ?
ascii_modem: adlai: log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-01-2015#965080 and below.
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2015#965084 << what's the problem with open source? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:52:28; ascii_modem: if you're an 'open source' whateverthefux, and you give a fuck that your code 'is legal' - just surrender to jail now. save the bother.
ascii_modem: not with open source
adlai goes searching for context
ascii_modem: but with respecting tyrants who propose to say that writing some code is permissible , other kinds - not
ascii_modem: e.g. 'software patent'
ascii_modem: linked article was similar to a turd that made the rounds back when w2k source leake
ascii_modem: 'don't read it, you'll be tainted for life and can never be a legit open source dev again'
decimation: ascii_modem: in the earlier case of recording, my answer is: yes, you probably ought to have an iranian lawyer (or a plan to get one) if you find yourself physically in iran
ascii_modem: better to get a plane ticket out.
ascii_modem: or boat, or rocket, whatever
decimation: agreed, but to shift to your point about code - where?
ascii_modem: one step ahead of pursuers.
ascii_modem: that is the only 'where'.
ascii_modem: i'll point out that it is not hard at all to crap out however much 'illegal1111!' code you want, anywhere on planet, at no risk to your health
ascii_modem: !s if you think, don't write
assbot: 2 results for 'if you think, don't write' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=if+you+think%2C+don%27t+write
adlai: my favorite nonsense was an internal usg email during the snowden leaks, advising employees not to read the leaked document on unclassified workstations lacking necessary clearance to view the doc
ascii_modem: this predates snowden
ascii_modem: dates to at least 'wikileaks'
decimation: w.r.t. to the link you posted about the guy warning not to reverse engineer drivers, his point about the pointlessness of the endeavor seems well-founded
adlai: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/07/dhs_puts_its_he.html
assbot: Schneier on Security: DHS Puts its Head in the Sand ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdGtzg )
ascii_modem: decimation: he was entirely wrong about the -why- pointless
thestringpuller: ascii from da past
decimation: house of cards microcode shitware?
decimation: adlai: you can see how it would be much more difficult for usg to actually coordinate which secrets are 'released' and which ones are 'secret'
decimation: it's easier to pretend.
ascii_modem: the audience can't do jack shit to bring sane silicon into being. but it can actively and maximally destructively piss on 'intellectual property' and related usg crown privilege.
thestringpuller: cazalla: you still around?
cazalla: thestringpuller, yup, what's up
ascii_modem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-01-2015#964832 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 17:47:10; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology... << i agree. it is.
thestringpuller: pokemon: i must catch them all
cazalla: thestringpuller, cbf this morning, didn't get to bed till 4am and i'm still a bit tired
thestringpuller: ;;ls
thestringpuller: nanotube still on vacation?
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/opinion/sunday/how-my-mom-got-hacked.html << more pro-military-industrial-complex propaganda
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1IdHuaO )
adlai: btce still leading the light brigade
ascii_modem: drivers << presently the open source folks have two choices - open mouth and wait for rain, in the sahara; or cut enemy throat and drink up.
decimation: third choice: make own hardware using fpgas (yes, I remember past fpga threads)
ascii_modem: make own planet too, while at it
kakobrekla: ill throw some dirt towards that.
ascii_modem: !s sdram controller
assbot: 5 results for 'sdram controller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sdram+controller
ascii_modem: etc
kakobrekla: was talking about the planet.
ascii_modem: folks who bring up fpga as a solution - straight to ebay, pick up a board, see if you can bake so much as an i386 compatible, with at least the original's performance, -without- the fpga vendor's closed libraries ☟︎
ascii_modem: with them, it is quite the same as using 'evil' modern silicon
thestringpuller: Chairman Popescu.
thestringpuller tips hat
Apocalyptic: !up mircea_popescu
Apocalyptic: still no gribble eh
thestringpuller: yea no one knows where he is
mircea_popescu: heya & thanks
ben_vulpes: dag. looks like this irc thinger's getting fragile.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: did anything come of your conversations with "t"?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: i see guy's still idling here tho
mircea_popescu: but anyway, since we're on it : anyone wish to write a proper ircd ?
mircea_popescu: ima make a spec for it.
ben_vulpes: and a bouncer, while we're at it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6142 @ 0.00064049 = 3.9339 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ircd?
ben_vulpes: znc is broken flaky hellspawn.
mircea_popescu: yeah. i guess this calls for a whole new category on trilema.
mircea_popescu: ima do it once done with reports, announcements and other first of month stuff
ben_vulpes: "shit mp wants built"
mircea_popescu: the thing where i put it in a pastedbin dun work, im sick of looking up the url for the deedbot one.
mircea_popescu: cazalla qntra wordcounts ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: those have been up since the 1st: http://qntra.net/2015/01/qntra-s-qntr-december-2014-statement/
ben_vulpes: is there a pompous name for the l2 list? the dukes?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lordship list, sure
mircea_popescu: oh ty thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: l1's the lordship list?
mircea_popescu: ah yes my bad.
mircea_popescu: teh... knighthood ?
ben_vulpes: the peerage?
mircea_popescu: most honorable order of teh bath ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which... http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orden_del_Baño‎
assbot: Orden del Baño - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre ... ( http://bit.ly/1zN9WMa )
mircea_popescu: because we translate proper nouns now.
ben_vulpes: ooh most noble order of the garter
ben_vulpes: garter snakes hueeee
mircea_popescu: lol works
ben_vulpes: no its horrible
mircea_popescu: "the cult" ?
ben_vulpes: "the hoplites"?
mircea_popescu: then the verb for joining could be "cultured"
ben_vulpes: ew.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, ask tat, he's the naming fiend.
mircea_popescu: or mebbe hanbot
mircea_popescu: wow check out mike_c dominate the qntra wordcounts in dec.
Apocalyptic: you're probably looking at the first bytes of the fingerprint, not his wordcount heh
Apocalyptic: happened to me too
thestringpuller: XD
mircea_popescu: oh oh lol
mircea_popescu: oops
thestringpuller: where has TaT been?
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem: 'plagiarism' may be a 'sin of the flesh', but plagiarists exist just the same as 'wankers' exist. << not what i meant. what i meant was the construct's nonsense.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "plagiarism" anymore than there's burning bushes or actual sides of christmeat.
thestringpuller: !up mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: whaty's this altgribble thing ?
kakobrekla: someone runs a gribble clone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00063347 = 4.3076 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but how is this possible ?
mircea_popescu: i mean... if you rate with it, it updates the db ?
Apocalyptic: nope
kakobrekla: i guess you cant rate
Apocalyptic: you can't rate
kakobrekla: see
kakobrekla: my guess is better than sexyginger
Apocalyptic: dat kako
mircea_popescu: decimation: such a law is obviously intended to protect criminals (politicians, bureaucrats) <<< or young women having casual sex.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-december-2014-statement/
mircea_popescu: so basically it doesn't do anything.
mircea_popescu: why'd i trust it's "registered" claims.
mircea_popescu: decimation: my only problem is that it seems somewhat dangerous << from what i hear it's actually safer than flying planes.
ben_vulpes: !up Phraust
Phraust: :)
mircea_popescu: "moms who persist in using big, boxy PC computers and small-town police departments."
mircea_popescu: fucking idiots these people.
mircea_popescu: my computer is "big, boxy PC"
mircea_popescu: and it shits on his useless applepad or whatever the fuck it is.
mircea_popescu: how goes Phoebus
mircea_popescu: i mean Phraust
mircea_popescu: "So what can we all do to protect ourselves? Keep our computers backed up on an independent drive or by using a cloud backup service like Carbonite, take those software update and “patch” alerts seriously"
mircea_popescu: mno. but anyway.
Phraust: not bad. livin' the dream :D
Phraust: finally got time to irc again. what's been crackin'?
mircea_popescu: "Welcome to the new ransomware economy, where hackers have a reputation to consider." "welcome to the post-modern world, where 'criminals' are more reliable than governments, and certainly more useful."
mircea_popescu: Phraust not much really. same old bs, restated in all seriousness by a new generation of turnips.
Phraust nods.
Phraust: THings just ain't the same for gangsters.
mircea_popescu: just as an idle exercise, imagine how that article'd have sounded if the criminals were some usg agency, stealing the woman's drive and not giving it back.
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall a bunch of these, and they're all fucking respectful.
mircea_popescu: time for a tone change, mainstream media.
kakobrekla: !up PinkPosixPXE
ben_vulpes: !up mircea_popescu
PinkPosixPXE: thank you
ben_vulpes: how've you been?
PinkPosixPXE: oh man.. I've been helping my friend who runs a VPS provider, gigebox.com, migrate everything to a new host node
PinkPosixPXE: all his containers
mircea_popescu: o hey, PinkPosixPXE
PinkPosixPXE: and wrote an ipv6_ddos mitigations cript
PinkPosixPXE: script
PinkPosixPXE: for him
ben_vulpes: that's a shitload of work yow
mircea_popescu: is it any good ?
PinkPosixPXE: ovh works for our ipv4 stuff
cazalla: mircea_popescu, posted 5 days ago http://qntra.net/2015/01/qntra-s-qntr-december-2014-statement/
assbot: Qntra (S.QNTR) December 2014 Statement | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Aulvf9 )
ben_vulpes: i've been digging through https://twitter.com/ipxcore/ (ghetto vps) for uptime gems
assbot: IPXcore (@ipxcore) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1AulBU2 )
PinkPosixPXE: but ipv6 is more difficult, so this does a count on the packets, and if it exceeds the limit, it finds the ipv6 address, and vps in question, and then disables those addresses on the vps so they can't be targetted
mircea_popescu: cazalla yeah i see. qntra is so successful i got lost among the articles :)
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE doesn't sound like much mitigation.
PinkPosixPXE: I'm going to update it to set a timer to re enable them after a certain period of time and do some updates to it, but it's been keeping things up for the last few weeks
PinkPosixPXE: well when the packet limit is breached, usually the vps will be suspended
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i was first! as they say, some people are so far behind the race that they actually believe they are leading :P
PinkPosixPXE: automatically
mircea_popescu: lol
ben_vulpes: PinkPosixPXE: is this for outbound ddossing?
PinkPosixPXE: this ensure the vps won't be suspended, and just removes the target ipv6 ips
PinkPosixPXE: until the attack stops
PinkPosixPXE: it's a better solution for customers than 'container susspended again'
PinkPosixPXE: suspended*
PinkPosixPXE: sorry, been migrating and snapshotting containers to this new server all day
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE how about write the script so that you keep track of foreign hosts, and once packet limit is reached for a vps all foreign hosts that aren't on the list of hosts it connected in the past 24 hours get banned across the entire network ?
PinkPosixPXE: the attacks are all .cap'd and then the ip's are all reported to ovh to be added to ddos mitigation
mircea_popescu: "oh, i see you're trying to connect to a vps that a) you've not connected before and b) is being attacked ? come back next week."
PinkPosixPXE: and a null route is put in place as well
PinkPosixPXE: but often times they are spoofed source ip's
PinkPosixPXE: so that can sometimes be ineffective long term
mircea_popescu: why is ovh allowing spoofs inside ?
mircea_popescu: nm. ovh.
PinkPosixPXE: ipv6 ddos attacks are just a pain all around
PinkPosixPXE: it's a different beast
PinkPosixPXE: this runs on the host node
PinkPosixPXE: this way people can still get on their nodes, and are just informed that we've removed a few ipv6 addresses that were being attacked.. instead of their node being suspended and shut off, and they are then freaking out
PinkPosixPXE: and before long the addresses come back up when the attack dies down
PinkPosixPXE: anywho
PinkPosixPXE: it is a band-aid until we can figure something better out
PinkPosixPXE: but it saved our butts quite a bit over the last few weeks
PinkPosixPXE: and this isn't exactly how I'd setup vps hosting
PinkPosixPXE: I have 3 vps' at a very large (Free) discount with this provider
PinkPosixPXE: and root on the host node
PinkPosixPXE: and made a migration script for us to migrate to the new node, helped him pick it out
PinkPosixPXE: I'm learning how sloppy some of it is
PinkPosixPXE: I will probably eventually buy a dedi that's a bit better than the our new one
PinkPosixPXE: and split off my own vps services
ben_vulpes: here's to dedis
PinkPosixPXE: on my own host
PinkPosixPXE: but that's down the road a month at least
ben_vulpes: PinkPosixPXE: you launch a VPS service, take BTC (don't even denominate in BTC), and you've got custom right here.
PinkPosixPXE: yea, I was thinking about that
PinkPosixPXE: and I plan to offer BTC as payment
PinkPosixPXE: as well as DDOS mitigation, and of course ipv6
PinkPosixPXE: now that I've helped run, and in some ways rescue this vps provider
ben_vulpes: if you can afford to denominate in btc...
ben_vulpes: gamechanger right there.
PinkPosixPXE: and get the migrations streamlined to the new host
PinkPosixPXE: I can see where I can put together a much better product
kakobrekla: see what i told you, wife material right there.
PinkPosixPXE: yea, after I wrote the vps migrate script for him today
ben_vulpes: !s wife material
assbot: 1 results for 'wife material' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wife+material
PinkPosixPXE: after we migrated a few
PinkPosixPXE: and fixed about 10 issues he ran into within 5 minutes
PinkPosixPXE: but mostly after the script
PinkPosixPXE: he said he was going to force me to marry him one day
PinkPosixPXE: and that it may be by gunpoint
ben_vulpes: good thing you've got your own equalizer then huh
PinkPosixPXE: yep haha
PinkPosixPXE: I'm probably a better shot too :x
BingoBoingo: That helps.
PinkPosixPXE: ben_vulpes: I might need you (or some of you guys) as resources regarding I ensure I setup my bitcoin merchanting properly
PinkPosixPXE: I've done some research
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00064049 = 2.1136 BTC [+]
PinkPosixPXE: and know how to add it
ben_vulpes: are you planning to convert directly to fiat?
kakobrekla: he means if you gonna be a bitch!
PinkPosixPXE: I will probably have a recurring tool that converst a portion of it to fiat
PinkPosixPXE: converts*
PinkPosixPXE: I wouldn't make it all fiat
PinkPosixPXE: I'm not bailing on bitcoin
PinkPosixPXE: recent drops don't scare me
kakobrekla: its ok hon you can be honest here. :)
PinkPosixPXE: in fact, I've been buying more as it's gone down
PinkPosixPXE: it's the holidays..
ben_vulpes: PinkPosixPXE: the simplest and most robust approach is going to be to quote specific prices and have that exact qty remitted to an addr of your control
ben_vulpes: use a btcd to watch incoming blocks for confirmations
ben_vulpes: there's some bookkeeping to be done in terms of counters in the itty bitty satoshis, to avoid dup transaction amounts
PinkPosixPXE: ok, that makes sense.. so basically I can keep the bitcoin price in flux with what the current price is
PinkPosixPXE: BTC match up to current USD
ben_vulpes: right
PinkPosixPXE: or whatever currency
ben_vulpes: that's your quoting logic
PinkPosixPXE: yea, that shouldn't be too bad, sweet
ben_vulpes: totally orthogonal to the accepting of bitcoin
PinkPosixPXE: yea, I've noticed it where I shop using bitcoin quite a bit
ben_vulpes: what you *don't* want to do is send each txn to seperate addrs.
ben_vulpes: you could, ofc.
ben_vulpes: there are clever things you could do with hashing the order and using that as a private key for receipts or something like that...
ben_vulpes: but don't.
PinkPosixPXE: ok, good to know
PinkPosixPXE: yea, these were some of the things I was curious about
ben_vulpes: don't depend on an external api to monitor the blockchain
ben_vulpes: use bitcoin-rpc calls to watch for incoming blocks, scrape for txns to your addr
ben_vulpes: and don't put the key anywhere near that bitcoind
kakobrekla: wait whut is this no separate address bsns
PinkPosixPXE: oh yea, api -> webapp -> blochain updates.. too slow
PinkPosixPXE: that makes sense
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: do whatever you want, cartman
ben_vulpes: you have a thing that works, congrats.
kakobrekla: ??
ben_vulpes: http://bitbet.us ??
assbot: BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ie6Bdl )
kakobrekla: i dont understand y no unique address per order?
ben_vulpes: why bother?
PinkPosixPXE: I wonder if I should buy a bitcoin now
PinkPosixPXE: or wait for it to drop a bit more
kakobrekla: wait for 2$.
PinkPosixPXE: 200 ?
kakobrekla: myea i guess
PinkPosixPXE: I might buy at 250.. as long as it keeps trending back up
PinkPosixPXE: we'll see
PinkPosixPXE: glad I didn't buy when it dropped to 310 last week
PinkPosixPXE: and waited a bit
ben_vulpes: i just want more coins plz
PinkPosixPXE: hehe
kakobrekla: anyway my suggestion: give unique address for each palyment which you monitor for certain period of time. if you use bit32 you can generate new addresses on the fly on the server without private key or else pregenerate them and throw them in db
kakobrekla: !up PinkPosixPXE
kakobrekla: bip32
PinkPosixPXE: thanks
PinkPosixPXE: is assbot not talking to altgribble yet?
kakobrekla: its not a 'yet' thing.
PinkPosixPXE: ah ok
BingoBoingo: !up mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE aha i see.
kakobrekla: you dont need to voice him he is opped
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE how about i buy you some dedis and you admin them and run a host for btc business ?
kakobrekla: !down mircea_popescu
kakobrekla: see.
mircea_popescu: haet
PinkPosixPXE: you would put the initial investment in the dedi's? teh competitively priced ones might be in the arena of $300-400/mo to rent depending upon how competitive I want my services to be, and I will probably be buying something through voxility
PinkPosixPXE: I want 10gbps, but I can offer low end as well
PinkPosixPXE: but I want high end and ddos mitigation, etc. available as well
PinkPosixPXE: It would depend
PinkPosixPXE: technically, I can finance it on my own, but I guess I'm still in the process of working out the details, and I guess regardless, I just need to make sure all the time and work I put into admining everything is getting me money and setting me up for some independence career wise
ben_vulpes: run 'em in parallel.
ben_vulpes: finance your fiat VPS situation yourself, and run it in parallel with the BTC VPS MP wants to finance.
ben_vulpes is off for a bit
PinkPosixPXE: right now, I've spent so much time and energy through the holidays helping this provider/friend, and while I'll probably get an endless supply of vps resources from him at a prorated "nothing" .. I need to setup a business and direction for the future of my own thing, or at least make money when I output time/work
PinkPosixPXE: I could potentially do that
PinkPosixPXE: since I'd be setting things up identically
PinkPosixPXE: but would have to see
PinkPosixPXE: the time commit is a big consideratio
PinkPosixPXE: with so many projects, I have to make sure I can get everything taken care of
PinkPosixPXE: but that's a great idea, and an offer I'd definitely be interested in potentially pursuing, and discussing further with you mircea_popescu
PinkPosixPXE: I just need to do a little math on 'units of time/energ/projects' and potential independence from my day job at some point so I have more time
PinkPosixPXE: but it's defiitely gaining momentum, and with time, it'll happen
PinkPosixPXE: I want to make sur eI can offer both offshore and us hosting as well
PinkPosixPXE: so that's another thing I'll be working on
PinkPosixPXE: anywho.. I better get back to helping them with these migrations
PinkPosixPXE: 30 minute break, and they are already pinging for my help
kakobrekla: good luck
PinkPosixPXE: thank you! It was good to chat with you guys again and check in.. I may disappear a bit later when we move my vps because we have to do an offline migration, but I'll always return, and be around :)
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE cool.
mircea_popescu: !up mapop
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE if it's like 3-400 how about getting a pair.
thestringpuller: @up PinkPosixPXE
thestringpuller: !up PinkPosixPXE
cazalla: anyone have a bitstamp account an able to confirm if they sent out an email 30m ago?
thestringpuller: not that i see
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_modem
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
ascii_modem: ty BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: yw ascii_modem
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23837 @ 0.0006432 = 15.332 BTC [+] {2}
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/20000-in-britain-investigated-for-online-comments/
ascii_modem: write a proper ircd <<< what exactly is this ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem ima spec it in a few
mircea_popescu: and holy shit, don't you just love this brave new world with such policemen in it.
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: knc miner refund << yeah in BTC terms they took about %70 haircut, but I think they do all their accounting in fiat (they convert bitcoin to fiat upon reception)
Apocalyptic: Bitstamp possibly fucked up, http://i.imgur.com/8aWS157.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdztDa )
ascii_modem: that qntra link: see earlier thread re: how to think of law.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla check out the cans! string popped!
ascii_modem: that is what law now is. to be thought of in the same light as ebola.
kakobrekla: how the fuck they lose private keys?
ascii_modem: 'lose'
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla may i direct your attention to http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-feb/#c4426
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 1.05 B (33%) on Yes, 2.09 B (67%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 2 days | weight: 98`291 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1xJbLeE )
mircea_popescu: turns out prediction markets predict markets.
decimation: what kind of 'responsible' exchange keeps keys anywhere near a terminal connected to the internet?
kakobrekla: this chan only makes me more depressed. great job kako.
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> how the fuck they lose private keys? // ask them
mircea_popescu: wait, how ?
mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << lol a peak wanes, another just begun
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdAB9Y )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And these peaks are closer than the last
BingoBoingo: !up Fun
Fun: :)
Fun: hi folks
kakobrekla: this better be fun
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo indeed.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tell teh group your troubles, kako
kakobrekla: well ignorance is bliss what more is there.
cazalla: scoopbot, fetch
Fun: I just read the Greek government debt is at 175 percent right now, runs up to €330 billion. And a lot of debt nowadays is ensured in the derivative markets :)
Fun: eheheh
cazalla: scoopbot fetch
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
mircea_popescu: ah lol
mircea_popescu: they were going to finally boot the greeks neh ?
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitstamp-alleged-to-have-requested-users-stop-making-deposits/
assbot: Bitstamp Alleged To Have Requested Users Stop Making Deposits | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdBpvv )
Fun: lol they cant
kakobrekla: wai alleged ?
Fun: who is going to cover derivatives
Fun: however if greeks exit thats great, euro and dollar may go down alot lol
Fun: esp euro :)
mircea_popescu: euro is already down.
kakobrekla: kako is already short
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he likes the word. it bestows journalismity.
punkman: bring back the drachma!
decimation: Fun: euro and dollar go 'down' relative to what? bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: punkman !
Fun: lol it depends on which banks hold the potato :D
Fun: to other currencies
mircea_popescu: can i get more detail out of you than "it's being worked on"!
kakobrekla: decimation nothing goes down relative to bitcoin
punkman: it's been 6 weeks, fuck me
punkman: well obviously not worked on enough
mircea_popescu: yes but...
mircea_popescu: what is the problem, exactly ?
punkman: pauperism, holidays, lyf
decimation: kakobrekla: all the way to $2!
kakobrekla: i would add to the article "self proclaimed 'World's leading Bitcoin exchange'"
mircea_popescu: am i going "this has to be reimplemented for the third time" ?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Qntra has comments form. Also no need to do math to post comment
mircea_popescu: it's not really math if it has letters in it.
kakobrekla: i thought i get paid if you include those 6 words, or at least 2, since 4 are the quote.
Fun: its bizzare that greek debt is financed atleast was financed in past via some usa banks lol
Fun: who in turn seems to packed and sold it as derivatives
Fun: afterward EU said bad bad boys and said they are going to finance greece directly but perhaps thats just words
decimation: kakobrekla: BingoBoingo: according to bitcoin charts bitstamp is #3 in volume right now
kakobrekla: i said self proclaimed - check their frontpage.
ascii_modem: 'big boxy pc' <<< wtf
decimation: ascii_modem: maybe she meant your lisp machine?
mircea_popescu: i think it's a he, of sorts.
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitstamp-alleged-to-have-requested-users-stop-making-deposits/
cazalla: yeah, we know scoopbot
Fun: any exchange can get vol by cycling btc on their boobs
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Well... cazalla's article. You know you could do one if you want on their old fee rape bot from back in the day.
Fun: :D
Fun: books lol
mircea_popescu: im bashing that.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust fun
mircea_popescu: oh fucking hell
Fun: u still use gribble? :D
mircea_popescu: obviously not.
decimation: ;;gribbles_retarded_cousin
mircea_popescu: and jack shit i can do about it, too, because notary's dead and so on and so fucking forth.
Fun: who here knows a bit about forex?
mircea_popescu: everybody.
ascii_modem: bitstamp... confirm... <<< do we even know of a published pubkey for them
Fun: well how can I buy CME globex fx options?
Fun: via some broker?
mircea_popescu: ideally.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem nope.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16676 @ 0.00063023 = 10.5097 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: they don't use these big, blocky pc things.
mircea_popescu: they use sleek string.
ascii_modem: sleek walrus guts.
decimation: Fun: I guess you can call up someone in chicago and ask?
mircea_popescu: punkman im not one iota closer to a sensible situaiton here.
mircea_popescu: would you please not go all pankake ?
punkman: well I'm still here
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2J8B8W4.txt )
kakobrekla: !b 2 ✂︎
Fun: perhaps :)
mircea_popescu: decimation doesn't have to be in chicago. everyone does it, including all the web providers, optionsxpress, schwab, you name it
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/qntra-sqntr-december-2014-statement/
cazalla: ascii_modem, they signed they last audit using the bitcoin address 1EFJUipfCHFmmTFkF9vvjFKdBf3VbfvarM but no gpg afaik
punkman: anyone want to setup and admin the supybot/electrum box to speed things up?
thestringpuller: https://keybase.io/coinbaseguy << coinbase apparently has a GPG key published
mircea_popescu: punkman that's good. so what is the problem, exactly, what's the plan to resolve it, usefull stuff like that, pls.
Fun: http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/euro-fx_quotes_globex_options.html?optionExpiration=H5
assbot: Euro FX Option (American) (EUR/USD) Quotes - CME Group ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdDQya )
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not on their site ? maybe it's really /coinbasederp instead ?
Fun: the price for option is in those high low columns or where?
ascii_modem: unless that key is welded to their traditional corporate charter, or at least proclaimed amidst fanfare by an officer - why believe it at all ?
mircea_popescu: Fun in the last, normally.
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem right.
kakobrekla: but they have https
punkman: mircea_popescu: problem is I'm reimplementing website in PHP and also changing bot to send shit to PHP reliably, and it's all a bit tangled up at the moment
thestringpuller: ascii_modem mircea_popescu: its just surprising that none of these "businesses" have pub-keys published for verification purposes.
mircea_popescu: they do a typically fiat thing whereby they act like gpg is sorta like you know, this soft toy thing. they get an address like it were a social media profile.
mircea_popescu: easily repudiable, worth nothing at all.
decimation: Fun: if you just wanna trade euro/usd you there are a few etfs: http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/category/currency-etfs.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdEmfy )
Apocalyptic: eventually kako can ask them in meatspace
mircea_popescu: punkman and you're doing this suddenly and without consultation while it's also down unnaounced because why ?
Fun: decimation: I want to buy options direct
Fun: for max profit :D
mircea_popescu: Fun not for plebs.
Fun: irrelevant :D
mircea_popescu: but you can use a broker, by now they cater even to people with 10k or something.
Fun: seems so
thestringpuller: easily repudiable << is this why twitter has to verify celebrities?
decimation: Fun: on the web brokerages mircea suggests they certainly sell options on those etfs
decimation: probably much more liquid than holding something special
Fun: decimation: I see
Fun: ty
mircea_popescu: decimation pretty sure they actually let you trade on cme.
ascii_modem: 'verify'
decimation: yeah I'm gonna check out my brokerage and see
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller doubt it.
mircea_popescu: !up wserd
thestringpuller: !up wserd
thestringpuller: !up ascii_modem
Fun: so last is 0.0281 means 0.0281 usd for lot? or what :D
ascii_modem: ty
mircea_popescu: normally, yes.
cazalla: well, here are alleged headers http://dpaste.com/3WBH04T
assbot: dpaste: 3WBH04T ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdETOH )
thestringpuller: tl;dr there would be no phishing if everyone used GPG correctly.
Fun: 1 lot is 125,000 seems so
Fun: seems pretty cheap @ option price :)
thestringpuller: cazalla: when will people stop using HTML encoded email
Fun: I am suprised that large russian corporations did not hedge their loans fx risks, or maybe they did :D
punkman: mircea_popescu: it was DDoS'd/hacked, I got some PHP hosting as solution for DDoS. Existing version can be backup withing 24 hours if someone wants to administer it/protect from ddos/etc. Nobody wants to do that, so I haz to write PHP.
mircea_popescu: punkman where'd you ask ?
ascii_modem: there would be no phishing if everyone used GPG correctly. << 'brainwave' by poul anderson.
punkman: should be in logs
mircea_popescu: what's current version run again ? python was it ?
punkman: yep
mircea_popescu: !s from:punkman administer
assbot: 0 results for 'from:punkman administer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Apunkman+administer
decimation: yeah my brokerage allows direct trading of futures if you have 'approval' and a non-trival account value
ascii_modem: php hosting ?!
Fun: decimation: futures and options?
cazalla: thestringpuller, but i like pretty newsletters
mircea_popescu: punkman this really has been very poorly communicated. ☟︎
Apocalyptic: why rewrite from python to PHP ? seems like a poor downgrade in everything
mircea_popescu: for one thing, ddos'd/hacked is an unlikely combo. which was it ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i dunno wtf he's doing, im sitting here debugging a lengthy string of nonsense resulted from engineer deciding arbitrarily to selfmanage mid process.
mircea_popescu: about as pleasant a thing as fifty years worth of dilbert rolled up in one fat joint.
ascii_modem: fellas, all these headaches - ircd/fleanode, notarybot, etc. - one pill. why not one of you carry out my erasurecode-router scheme.
mircea_popescu: except the other side.
Apocalyptic: I can see that
thestringpuller: dilbert is kinda funny tho...
ascii_modem: as riotously funny as butugychag.
Fun: decimation: so how much 1 euro fx lot cost ? option to buy or sell it at agreed price
decimation: !up Fun
decimation: Fun: are you asking what the bid/ask spread is on the spot? or do you want an option with a ex date and strike price?
BingoBoingo: !up Birdman
cazalla: well, bitstamp confirmed unless site has been hacked too
BingoBoingo: Well did BitStamp lose a can or the string?
cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/EEhfYnV.png i took that ss fwiw
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AdIHzo )
Fun: decimation: option with ex date and strike price
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitstamp-requests-users-stop-making-deposits/
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/20000-in-britain-investigated-for-online-comments/
mircea_popescu: seems to me like someone likely ran off with a wallet.
mircea_popescu: curious if this ends up going the way of btcxchange
cazalla: well, the wallet that was last audited has been empty since early dec
decimation: the bid/ask spread on eur/usd spot runs about 3 to 4 mili-cents (w/comission)
decimation: for mar 2015 Euro Futures, price 1.1949 with a 32k volume
decimation: to buy a call that expires 15 jan on the mar 2015 future, for a strike price of 1.19 costs $0.0096
mircea_popescu: don't do options on futures, do spot options.
Fun: mircea_popescu: whats the difference?
mircea_popescu: that one is an option on the future and the other on the spot o.O
mircea_popescu: what's the difference between apple pie and pineapple pie ?
decimation: yeah I'm trying to find the options on spot (seems it would be easier) but I am having trouble
decimation: lol
mircea_popescu: irrespective of widespread belief to the contrary, im pretty sure no entity currently can value options on forex futures
decimation: they certainly exist
mircea_popescu: the catholic church also "exists"
decimation: are you implying that markov chains are doing what they do?
mircea_popescu: in the sense that one can hang himself from it.
decimation: actually options on spot probably don't exist, come to think on it
mircea_popescu: look at the math involved sometime in an idle hour, but from a fundamental perspective, none of that "this is hw it's done because it's how it's done" circularity.
decimation: like, why would you pay to deliever something that's only valued today?
mircea_popescu: uh ?!
decimation: I guess my point is that a promise to deliver a euro tomorrow isn't a spot price
BingoBoingo kind of really wants kakobrekla to write an "I told you so" piece on Bitstamp
mircea_popescu: this is true
thestringpuller: http://bitcoinobituaries.com/
thestringpuller: Bitcoin has died 23 times
mircea_popescu: but an option to deliver tomorrow an euro deliverable next week is a whole other layer of nutso.
decimation: yeah fair point
decimation: so weirdly my brokerage doesn't appear to have spot (freestyle?) forex options, only options on futures
decimation: it does appear that forex is a very specialized thing that varies widely with brokerage
mircea_popescu: yes but use an option for mar on the mar future.
decimation: !up Fun
Fun: they package stuff to confuse people imo
mircea_popescu: rather than a jan option on the mar future.
Fun: derivative on top of derivative
mircea_popescu: Fun noobs have a reputation of wishing to get involved in the most complex end of any matter first thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is no different.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00064849 = 11.1865 BTC [+] {4}
Fun: I was watching RBK today, chairmain of Russian Commerce Chamber was going on that some russian companies need to refinance tons of mid term debt soon in what I presume usd :) I was thinking here that sounds fishy how come they havent hedged FX risk from the start
Fun: :)
mircea_popescu: Fun because a) it costs money and b) they don't care, because it's not really their problem.
Fun: more of b they hope gov will tell some bank to bail them out
decimation: k. a Mar 15 call for a march euro strike 1.19 costs 0.0221 and a put costs 0.0172
Fun: 0.02 is cheap
mircea_popescu: uptrend huh.
Fun: those are 125,000 lots so say 1% move is 1,250 gain?
mircea_popescu: no dude.
mircea_popescu: if it goes to 1.2121 you break even
Fun: but it may well outperform strike price
mircea_popescu: if it outperforms it by 2 cents and 21 hundredths you make money.
Fun: atm 1.1939
Fun: I see
Fun: there is some vol on 11800.0
Fun: march 2015
Fun: so say 0.10 gain minus 0.0281 thats 0.7 approx * 125.000 right?
Fun: 0.0281 option cost
mircea_popescu: i like people who pretend their convenient misunderstanding is more powerful than reality.
decimation: the bid/ask spread on that mar 15 call runs about ~0.007
Fun: mircea_popescu: what do u mean? feel free to correct calculations
mircea_popescu: i have, above.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7009 @ 0.00064576 = 4.5261 BTC [-]
Fun: there is option cost per lot
Fun: and strike price
Fun: ok u think price wont change that much?
Fun: decimation: 0.007 is fine imo
thestringpuller: "You know you've done things right when people don't think you've done anything at all"
mircea_popescu: http://blog.khersonus.com/2014/first-bitcoin-otc-rating/ meanwhile gone ?
mircea_popescu: i fucking hate webrot.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen khers oh what's the use
thestringpuller: more precisely "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
Fun: :)
ben_vulpes: wah jesus that's a scrollback
Fun: ;;gpg eregister Fun 1E42DA89AA22D605
thestringpuller: wow there isn't even a google cache
thestringpuller: Fun: gribble is on vacation
thestringpuller: blame nanotube :D
Fun: lol
Fun: so how do people register to talk here? ":
Fun: :)
thestringpuller: as of now you don't
Fun: cool
Fun: makes sense
thestringpuller screams nanotube like Kirk sceams Khan.
Fun: decimation: which broker do u use?
decimation: td ameritrade
Fun: thats a big one
Fun: strange they dont offer whole range to you
Fun: decimation: also options prices seems so cheap
Fun: maybe I am missing something?
decimation: they are known for their platform
Fun: yes
Fun: canuck bank :D
ben_vulpes: !up fun
ben_vulpes: man how long can we keep this juggling act up?
Apocalyptic: it's gonna be a while
Fun: or change assbot rules?
Fun: :D
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: you think gribble won't be back for a few days? Weeks?
thestringpuller: This is personally the longest I've ever seen gribble AWOL.
Apocalyptic: same here
ben_vulpes: pretty impressed that single point of failure went this long without failing.
ben_vulpes: i hope everyone's been taking backups of the db.
decimation: it's odd that gribble died the same time that bitstamp was hacked
Fun: not odd related
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: the back up is on OTC website
thestringpuller: it's pretty redundant
ben_vulpes: fun and how would you know?
Fun: logic
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: and how would you know if the db'd changed?
thestringpuller: That I cannot verify!
thestringpuller: OH NOES we have a dilemma
ben_vulpes: Fun: try again, that kind of statement doesn't hold any water with me.
Fun: decimation: so yes about forex dont u think those options are kinda cheap
decimation: I donno man, I don't really daytrade fx options
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i like people who pretend their convenient misunderstanding is more powerful than reality. << an amusing thing to cross at this moment
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: in all srsns single point of access == single point of failure
Fun: decimation: nor do I however in light of recent geo political events it seems neat thing to do
danielpbarron: kakobrekla> any bitcoin poker site already struggles for existence or is half dead or completely dead << because they don't use the WoT
Fun: :D
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> This is personally the longest I've ever seen gribble AWOL. < same here.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> pretty impressed that single point of failure went this long without failing. << same here #2
Fun: as to reality if drunk person mistakes tree for say a monster he will hack it
thestringpuller: but what is the alternative? nanotube would have to trust someone else to maintain gateway into WoT?
Fun: so no matter how reality is perceived human action does alter it :D
ben_vulpes: meanie
thestringpuller: that was quick.
thestringpuller: damn, I guess we just pray nanotube isn't locked up in some mexican prison somewhere
ben_vulpes: where does extraordinary rendition happen these days?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes weren't you complaining bout the endless log an hour ago ?
ben_vulpes: watching the thing scroll by as my bouncer replays it makes things look longer than they are
ben_vulpes: !up kermit
thestringpuller: instead of just reading log.bitcoin-assets.com ?
ben_vulpes: what, you think this is the only channel in which i do biz?
ben_vulpes: http://www.theautomaticearth.com/oil-power-and-psychopaths/ and to all a good night!
assbot: Oil, Power and Psychopaths - The Automatic Earth ... ( http://bit.ly/14c7S7M )
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes is cheating on us with other channels!
thestringpuller: i feel slightly saddened :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16345 @ 0.00064869 = 10.6028 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0K2xW4O89U derp has moved on from blockchain technology, has a new one for 2015
assbot: Multisignature Technology - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/14c9UF0 )
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/introducing-the-trilema-jobs-board/
mircea_popescu: lol now that china is looking poised to reconstruct the entire world around shanghai, the english agitprop is talking of putin pawning russian national interest to beijing.
mircea_popescu: quite a step up from "doesn't understand how the world works"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7590 @ 0.00063081 = 4.7878 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: Hey.. What is this 2015 has started already? Feels like Monday
Vexual: im guessing that bitstamp hot wallet ain't small
BingoBoingo: Who knows? It's the way of two cans and string, one of which is missing
mircea_popescu: scoopbot request http://btcscoop.com/cgi-bin/blogroll.py is 500'd.
assbot: 500 Internal Server Error ... ( http://bit.ly/14cdGOp )
mircea_popescu: no later tell no nothing fucking bs.
Vexual: so were busting nanotube from mexico?
Vexual: BingoBoingo: got a few days free?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not really
Vexual: put it in sluts.txt and do it later then
BingoBoingo: Vexual: The proper file extension for that type is .twat
Vexual: now theres a tld worth bidding on
Vexual: ben_vulpes: i just want more coins plz <this guy gets it
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/peterl-scoopbot/
adlai: !up Vexual
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00065284 = 15.5376 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15214 @ 0.00065366 = 9.9448 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: scoopbot -fetch
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with this one.
thestringpuller: everything is breaking
thestringpuller: bitpocalypse 2015
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00064929 = 5.6813 BTC [-]
fluffypony: it's because of the Gawgoxstamp
mircea_popescu: thje only McAuliffe google knows is some politico.
mircea_popescu: it'll be a great world to live in, this.
cazalla: hey fluffypony, is amarula nice?
fluffypony: cazalla: it's a little too sweet for my tastes, I'm a whisky and red wine man
fluffypony: but it's fantastic in shooters
fluffypony: kahlua + amarula + cream
cazalla: on second thought, might take another evening walk instead of getting stuck into the booze, by the time i get back, shop will be shut
mircea_popescu: that's all for me. laters!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00063356 = 13.6215 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00062732 = 8.0924 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitstamp-exchange-suspends-service/
assbot: Bitstamp Exchange Suspends Service | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1wPy12K )
cazalla: so much drama and it's only the first week of 2015
cazalla: !up RagnarDanneskjol
cazalla: qntra down, that's a first for some time
cazalla: !up davout
davout: ty
davout: !s deeds spec
assbot: 1 results for 'deeds spec' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=deeds+spec
davout: not many halps
RagnarDanneskjol: punkman has a newer much more detailed spec
RagnarDanneskjol: i was keeping it at deedbot.com but now thats outdated too ☟︎
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-01-2015#964161 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 03-01-2015 21:52:59; mircea_popescu: davout: who decided, and why, that the contents should be gpg signed ? << oh for cryssakes it was in the log like 20 times.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/open-binary-maintenance-for-eulora/
davout: kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2015#964963 <<< what about this guy -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2015#964963 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 19:00:14; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: so due to this thing called new year there is 57 bets waiting resolution. good luck to the mods. << i'd say they did pretty okay!
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 19:00:14; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: so due to this thing called new year there is 57 bets waiting resolution. good luck to the mods. << i'd say they did pretty okay!
davout: whoops
davout: this one : http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.88 B (8%) on Yes, 10.19 B (92%) on No | closed 1 week 2 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1wPz2HU )
davout: :D
davout: !up RagnarDanneskjol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2036 @ 0.000853 = 1.7367 BTC [-] {2}
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitstamp-exchange-suspends-service/
xanthyos: i think bc.i is broken: http://gyazo.com/f57c2a1a0e4c83bbd008aa8770a3d43c
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xJY81Y )
xanthyos: or we're in the future we wanted
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1819 @ 0.000852 = 1.5498 BTC [-]
xanthyos: division by zero error somewhere
xanthyos: i've moved most to electrum wallet as recommended by BingoBoingo
cazalla: xanthyos, ya know electrum wallet is racist, right? https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/541420975716597760 (lol at that shit still being there)
assbot: I'm happy they killed that nigger Eric Garner. /hashtag/Holocaust2?src=hash /hashtag/KillEmAll?src=hash
xanthyos: wow, bad twitter account management!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00064122 = 10.3878 BTC [+]
xanthyos: hopefully that doesn't suggest their software is sloppily coded
xanthyos: open source though
cazalla: nfi any of this true but rumoured bitcoin theft address, nice 1 btc fee too https://blockchain.info/tx/07a78d55fc17a2809e031116e71ac63faa6c2ea9e29480b4fa59031683b506b8
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 07a78d55fc17a2809e031116e71ac63faa6c2ea9e29480b4fa59031683b506b8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1BAk9ht )
xanthyos: heh
cazalla: zzz anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00062927 = 9.6908 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2014/12/18/7418397/notch-just-bought-the-craziest-megamansion-ever
assbot: The creator of Minecraft outbid Beyoncé and Jay Z on this $70 million megamansion | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1BAoIIs )
punkman: !up davout
davout: ty
davout: cazalla: a lot of the other transactions to this address sport a hefty fee too
davout: which could be consistent with 'take the money and run'
thestringpuller: ;;ls
thestringpuller: bah cazalla went beddy bye before I could get to work lol
TomServo: !up soypirate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.10815384 = 1.406 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00064991 = 8.6438 BTC [+] {2}
TomServo: !up joesmoe
TomServo: Hello joesmoe
TomServo: What kind of things happen at the denver bitcoin center?
kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2re2pw/18864_coins_stolen_from_stamp_that_doesnt_look/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00065582 = 11.7392 BTC [+] {2}
davout: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2re2pw/18864_coins_stolen_from_stamp_that_doesnt_look/ <<< the fees suggest the guy was in a hurry too
kakobrekla: im now getting "my output address is bitstamp hot wallet" emails from bitbet users. ☟︎
TomServo shakes his head.
kakobrekla: now "bitbet sucks because bitstamp stole coins"
davout: lol
mod6: pff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15128 @ 0.00062819 = 9.5033 BTC [-] {3}
artifexd: http://imgur.com/gallery/KyGoaQQ << This would make an awesome shirt. Maybe an S.NSA advertisement.
artifexd: Anybody else having problems getting anything useful from trilema.com?
kakobrekla: haxed
kakobrekla: hot wallet 'gone'.
mike_c: oh no, somebody haxed all the trilema credits?
kakobrekla: qntra also down
mike_c: 502, that doesn't seem like ddos.
punkman: fivezerotwo is back?
mike_c: feels more like a normal ops problem.
kakobrekla: its been down for 45m
davout: it's the end of the world apparently
punkman: re: attitude towards law https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/reverse-engineering-faq#faq2
punkman: also this http://lwn.net/Articles/154602/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2016 @ 0.00062685 = 1.2637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00062685 = 11.2833 BTC [-]
punkman: http://bitbet.us/stats/14wqgUXyHpuzyuwfYssfeLuL1YtZpeVkcR/ NO dude isn't doing too bad
kakobrekla: seems the bets have stopped?
mircea_popescu: still no google eh ?
mircea_popescu: !s nanotube
assbot: 586 results for 'nanotube' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nanotube
kakobrekla: no trilema or qntra either
mircea_popescu: i know.
mircea_popescu: bein' worked on.
kakobrekla: did ya lose you hot wallet too?
mircea_popescu: um ?
kakobrekla: nvm just derpin.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have one lol.
kakobrekla: in the spirit of buttstamp and all.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2015#965207 << would MIPS be easier than x86? or does the problem lie in connecting the thing to outside world (fast RAM, peripherals, etc)? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2015 00:46:15; ascii_modem: folks who bring up fpga as a solution - straight to ebay, pick up a board, see if you can bake so much as an i386 compatible, with at least the original's performance, -without- the fpga vendor's closed libraries
kakobrekla: !s dram controller
assbot: 3 results for 'dram controller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dram+controller
kakobrekla: i think the answer is there somewhere
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.00063952 = 14.0375 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: but at this point youd be better off reading all ze logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re qntra etc : Banned the following ip addresses on Mon Jan 5 09:42:16 EST 2015 23.235.236.98 with 9755 connections
mircea_popescu: in all likelyhood, moar wp crud.
kakobrekla: who banned?
mircea_popescu: that's not specified.
kakobrekla: brb meat.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2000 @ 0.00084091 = 1.6818 BTC [-] {8}
punkman: http://libv.livejournal.com/22502.html "How to sneak in a 1 to 1 version dependency between xserver, mesa and the linux kernel"
davout: in other news bitcointalk is now requesting that moderators fill some usg paperwork for the purpose of paying taxes
kakobrekla: lolwhut
mike_c: hehehe. 1099's for all of them!
davout: mike_c: yes
davout: http://pastebin.com/Fa5ARauq
kakobrekla: lol
punkman: "or if you want me to send it via postal mail." < send it to random Somalian address
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00064007 = 4.9925 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: diana_coman: I heard a rumor awhile ago that you got eulora compiling/running on windows. is that true?
mike_c: !up diana_coman
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2089 @ 0.0008313 = 1.7366 BTC [-] {7}
mike_c: thx
diana_coman: hi mike_c yes
diana_coman: I did get it compiled and running on Windows 8, 64bit
mike_c: would you be willing to share how you did that?
diana_coman: I've written the steps on the wiki
mike_c: oh
diana_coman: actually there is a small update to make there, to give the precise version for one of the libs
diana_coman: but I found out I could not edit the wiki for some reason
diana_coman: http://www.eulorum.org/Installing_Eulora#Windows
assbot: Installing Eulora - Eulorum ... ( http://bit.ly/1xKYP81 )
mike_c: oh? I actually host that wiki. what happened when you tried to edit?
diana_coman: got an error when trying to save the changes
diana_coman: to be fair, I can't even remember if I had an account, but I somehow thought I didn't need one last time
diana_coman: oh, re install, the full account of all the pain is still on the blog, too, here: http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/10/30/the-cost-of-shitogramming/
assbot: The cost of shitogramming in Ossasepia ... ( http://bit.ly/1xKZ8Qq )
mike_c: hm, i was just able to make an edit without logging in
mike_c: could try to change it and see if it works? and thanks for posting all the steps.
diana_coman: let me try again, maybe there was some strange stuff going on at that time
diana_coman: uhm, it works now, weird
diana_coman: well, I've updated the version for the libs and gave the link too, so that should be clearer now
Naphex: o/
mike_c: great. I'll give your steps a try. I am one of the people who tried and failed a couple times.
diana_coman: mike_c no problem, ping me if it still doesn't work
diana_coman: re the wiki, it seems to have trouble when I add the link with http so possibly that was the issue?
mike_c: hm. I'll look into it.
diana_coman: I just get a blank screen when I try to save (with http)
thestringpuller: sup diana_coman
diana_coman: the rest works fine, so no big deal there
diana_coman: thanks thestringpuller
mike_c: sounds like some security plugin gone awry. I'll fix it.
thestringpuller: !up pete_dushenski
thestringpuller: is it working ~_~
pete_dushenski: ty
thestringpuller: oh it did
pete_dushenski: howdy!
thestringpuller: we're operating in apocalypse mode
thestringpuller: gribble-pocalypse 2015!
pete_dushenski: suprised gizmodo hasn't picked this up
pete_dushenski: those gawker guys love their apocali
thestringpuller: yea no one knows where nanotube is
pete_dushenski: so i broke obama's head off: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/04/let-obama-eat-cake/
assbot: Let Obama eat cake. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1xL2yT8 )
thestringpuller: holy fuck bitstamp is suspended
pete_dushenski: lol ya
pete_dushenski: they're pooched
thestringpuller: haha. holy fuck.
thestringpuller: i love a good bitpocalypse
thestringpuller: watch the n00bs burn and burn
pete_dushenski: lol ya
pete_dushenski: almost as satisfying as watching wall street face plant
pete_dushenski: crude sub-$50
mike_c: fuck. i knew i should have bitbet that.
mike_c: "knew". i'm a wimp.
pete_dushenski: skin in the game: separating talkers from walkers since always
thestringpuller: some people just don't like to gamble
mike_c: yes yes. i just got my butt kicked on "bitcoin won't suck by end of 2014" bets, so perhaps i am gunshy.
mike_c: plus, it hasn't happened yet. mar '15 is at $50.65
thestringpuller: at least we all one the NSA delivery bet
thestringpuller: won*
thestringpuller: wow I can't spell/grammar
kakobrekla: quick scalp for best profit.
pete_dushenski: mike_c eh i got my but kicked on diff bets so i'm with you there
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller in the cash money nao!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14042 @ 0.00063743 = 8.9508 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/open-a-better-ircd-rfc/ << pls to rfc
assbot: [OPEN] A better ircd [RFC] pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xL4GdC )
thestringpuller: a new saying: "When there is blood on the streets, buy Bitcoin."
thestringpuller: collary: "When there is blood on the streets, somebody goin to jail." (The niggarized version)
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/05/bitcoin-jobs-get-your-bitcoin-jobs/
assbot: Bitcoin jobs! Get your Bitcoin jobs! | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1xL4ZVY )
mircea_popescu: how's ozland pete_dushenski ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu it was a little rainier and cooler than expected, a little pricier too, but overall perfectly pleasant
pete_dushenski: i'm back in the cold now, -30C or something
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "Helo" -> "Hello" ?
mircea_popescu: mebbe "heyo" ? make an argentine joke right in the spec!
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i see that your vacay produced a rather prolific number of articles.. did you stay in town?
thestringpuller: the redditards only listen to voice of reason when there is an apocalypse http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rdwrz/why_top_bitcoin_exchanges_are_so_amateurish_its/
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nah actually.
mircea_popescu: this is why it produced.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller "it's their userbase" ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu lovely :)
ben_vulpes: hueo
mircea_popescu: in keeping with the naming conventions introduced, everyone can call the helo packet whatever they wish :D
thestringpuller: "The sad part is that Bitstamp promised they will have quarterly audits of reserves. First and last was in May 2014."
pete_dushenski: they promised guise!
davout: i want an OHAI packet
davout: opening a connection
mircea_popescu: you got it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2672 @ 0.00080643 = 2.1548 BTC [-] {11}
davout: said connection being terminated by a KTHXBYE packet
mircea_popescu: no terminations rly.
ben_vulpes: ("BAI")
davout: LOLWUT packets to be used for the filling of sequence gaps
mircea_popescu: many moons ago some kids did write some thing that used the PIZDA/PULA convention.
mircea_popescu: ie, started with cunt, ended with cock.
mircea_popescu: was the best thing ever for a summer.
davout: what do you mean by "a signed certificate for the IP fingerprint if necessary" ?
mircea_popescu: well how do you know X is allowed to speak for me ?
mircea_popescu: unless the server is actually using my own keypair. which it conceivably could.
davout: GPG-signatures?
davout: ok
davout: server keypair
mircea_popescu: basically, program has one, you have one. you can if you wish use the same. don;'t have to.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/open-a-better-ircd-rfc/
davout: so if i understand correctly the daemon has its own keypair, the "for" keypair would be the user's
mircea_popescu: yep
kakobrekla: i dont get this scoopbot 30 min delay + fetch command. when i setup rss feed for herr vulpes jenkins (which is now offline for some reason) i hit it once a minute cause i give no fucks. no need for this -fetch nonsense if you change the interval to something saner. ☟︎
kakobrekla: its not like we gonna run out of internets anytime soon.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla trilema rss is 15 minutes delayed anyway
davout: makes sense, the hash, salt and nonce fiddling is to prevent against replay right?
kakobrekla: set it 5min for trilema, 1 min for qntra etc
kakobrekla: forget the fetch nonsense.
mircea_popescu: davout no, it's to make mitm and masquerading much harder.
davout: apart from replaying i can't think of an example where GPG isn't enough a protection already
davout: s/enough/enough of/
mircea_popescu: a replay "attack" coming from a trusted host carries a very large cost. they'll get banned.
mircea_popescu: tbh the l2 list etc has been a revelation in computer security for me.
mircea_popescu: it's been much better stated by smarter men, of course. http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
assbot: The Six Dumbest Ideas in Computer Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1DaYro4 )
davout: i was thinking rely on GPG and simply encode a nonce in the message ☟︎
mircea_popescu: davout suppose i send spoofed ip messages.
mircea_popescu: i can encode to your public key.
mircea_popescu: what now ?
mircea_popescu: in the design as is, now you reject my junk because i don't know the salts.
davout: i discard your messages since it doesn't bear a valid GPG signature
mircea_popescu: messages don't need to be signed.
mircea_popescu: and this deliberately.
davout: if they were wouldn't that remove the salts requirements?
mircea_popescu: it would but it's moot, because i'm not about to require people to sign everything they say.
davout: because if you know the server's key, you're probably aware of the salts etc
davout: ic
mircea_popescu: how does that work ? you know my ip and his gpg pubkey.
mircea_popescu: how does this make it probable you have root on my box ?
davout: i meant if you raped the server for its key, you may as well have the salt and stuff
mircea_popescu: pubkey ?
davout: both
mircea_popescu: o you meant in your signed alt-spec. mkay.
davout: i didn't think of the requirement to sign as an issue actually
mircea_popescu: actually, it occurs to me this needs some padding.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00063743 = 7.7129 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3806 @ 0.00079501 = 3.0258 BTC [-] {6}
ben_vulpes: oh and now a netsplit?
kakobrekla: it seems ircd centralization has been a problem since forever and noone has bothered to solve it
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
mircea_popescu: it's all rotten to the core, conceptually. what the shit is a "moderator" anyway ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's all rotten to the core, conceptually. what the shit is a "moderator" anyway ? << They are the person at the nightclub who makes sure you drink the two drink medium, but get you off the premises if you actually get drunk.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was the dumb bitch on tv that acted important and prevented anyone from making any sense
mircea_popescu: in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqfvnZxR3yA
assbot: Ricardo Malerba Gitana Rusa con letras - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1rYbLbi )
BingoBoingo: http://www.wlwt.com/national/deputy-supervises-okeechobee-father-spanking-daughter/30479526?utm_campaign=WLWT&utm_content=dbsZW1&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=trueAnthem:+New+Content#!dbsZW1
assbot: Deputy supervises Okeechobee father spanking daughter | National News - WLWT Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1rYc4To )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12358 @ 0.00063937 = 7.9013 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.4 BTC for Yes on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Mar 2015 to drop under $50 before Feb 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1082/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.01048706 BTC. Current weight: 36,569.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i thought it was the dumb bitch on tv that acted important and prevented anyone from making any sense << AH, the asshole enforcing moderate talking instrad of moderate drinking. Easy to mix those assholes up.
punkman: " Undersheriff Noel Stephen said he has personally supervised approximately 12 spankings." < lol!
mircea_popescu: http://earthweareone.com/mit-researchers-new-warning-at-todays-rate-half-of-all-u-s-children-will-be-autistic-by-2025/
assbot: MIT Researcher’s New Warning: At Today’s Rate, Half Of All U.S. Children Will Be Autistic By 2025 | Earth. We are one. ... ( http://bit.ly/1rYcYzo )
mircea_popescu: i'd be very surprised if it needs to wait for 2025. i doubt one in three english speakers i meet are not autistic as it is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0006402 = 2.9449 BTC [+]
mike_c: # of video games by platform for last 40 years: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6l6bcsIgAEQSo5.png:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1rYf1n4 )
thestringpuller: mike_c: bigger image?
thestringpuller: too much png not enough svg
mike_c: srsly. it zooms pretty well.
thestringpuller: it zooms mildly well
thestringpuller: I can't read the labels
thestringpuller: BUT
thestringpuller: i can see that the 2600 is up there with the iphone
thestringpuller: that correlation amuses me deeply
TomServo: !up adlai
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i give any importance to counts.
mircea_popescu: there's maybe 5 actual ipad games, and up to 100`000 re-skins of the same "play slots on ipad!!1" nonsense
mircea_popescu: in no case can one compare the amiga variety with the ipad variety, and bearing in mind amiga worked on 8 bit.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1260 @ 0.00082999 = 1.0458 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2506 @ 0.00083398 = 2.09 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's interesting how this also happened with 8 bit atari consoles in the late 70's / early 80's
mircea_popescu: "this" ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there's maybe 5 actual ipad games, and up to 100`000 re-skins of the same "play slots on ipad!!1" nonsense << in response to that
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: imo worse on the 2nd pass.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0006328 = 10.3779 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: much worse. i'm more impressed than mad at it though.
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r8bmj/reminder_1000_btc_bet_that_bitcoin_will/cndh9js
assbot: btcthrowaway454 comments on Reminder: 1,000 BTC bet that Bitcoin will outperform Berkshire stock @WarrenBuffet... Time's running out and things aren't looking good. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vUuP5M )
mircea_popescu: check out all the self-contradictory haet.
mircea_popescu: da fuck.
cazalla: ty
cazalla: gaming on iphone/ipad seems to be more about positioning adverts next to controls or other interface options as to guarantee misclicks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00063957 = 5.2765 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: haha
thestringpuller: everyone is trying to extract ad revnue with mobile apps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00063021 = 4.0333 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: ya, only games that seem a good for it are the endless run and jump to avoid objects games
cazalla: not the new ones though that are full of ads, the old ones like robot unicorn attack (and not robot unicorn attack 2)
cazalla: shit like canabalt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMBg75_TiLw
assbot: Canabalt HD Gameplay - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HAWSiN )
jurov: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat see you at 2015 June 30, 23:59:60
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HAWYa9 )
thestringpuller: lol that adult swim game
mircea_popescu: lol wut, new time
cazalla: thestringpuller, it's the shit - for anyone that doesn't know of robot unicorn attack - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzA4ZY_ZGo0
assbot: Robot Unicorn Attack Evolution (320k Dragon Form) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HAXRQe )
cazalla: nfi what that evolution one is but looks a bit better than original
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2554 @ 0.00082447 = 2.1057 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_modem
ascii_modem: ty BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: !up Naphex
ascii_modem: re: mircea's 'ircd' article: ☟︎
ascii_modem: !s kapelle
assbot: 2 results for 'kapelle' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kapelle
ascii_modem: he described, approximately, by accident, an experiment of mine - minus the fun bits
ascii_modem: i'm pleasantly surprised to learn that this is, apparently, one of those 'inevitable' inventions
ascii_modem: that or he read the log and picked the parts he liked
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.000627 = 13.8254 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: i feel like i'm going to take some shit for this.
mike_c: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/asirra/default.aspx
assbot: ASIRRA - Microsoft Research ... ( http://bit.ly/17e8yvh )
mike_c: Microsoft shut down their captcha service, which was causing that problem on the eulorum wiki.
mike_c: diana_coman: ^
diana_coman: ha ha mike_c
kakobrekla: what, computers got good at recognizing cats ?
mike_c: srsly. it was working really well too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00063105 = 10.2861 BTC [+] {2}
diana_coman: I never got why are people supposed to prove that they are not computers/bots, really
mike_c: before that captcha the wiki was swarmed with thousands of fake accounts and pages
mike_c: they were creating hundreds of users and pages a day
diana_coman: uhm, so you're saying that effectively for all behaviour, there really ARE more bots (be it blood and flesh and bones ones) than people around on the internets
diana_coman: could be, I guess
diana_coman: I confess I did not really look into it, but I'd rather look for some way to block bots away without the expense for actual humans - dunno, maybe some kind of timestamp check thing or something similar
mike_c: Trilema tries that
diana_coman: and doesn't it succeed?
mike_c: and it is not unusual for it to catch humans
diana_coman: hmmm, I guess then the question remains on how often that happens
diana_coman: I mean: if you ask by default humans to prove, than it happens each and every time, really, no choice there
mike_c: only each and every time you post a link.
diana_coman: really? how is that?
mike_c: idk, the thing has some smarts. but that's why it worked sometimes and not others.
diana_coman: do you mean posting a link on trilema or on the wiki>
diana_coman: ?
mike_c: the wiki
diana_coman: a, ok, I don't know about that
diana_coman: at least it did not ask me to identify cats and dogs...
mike_c: the thing is, the trilema one is extremely frustrating when it misfires.
mike_c: because you don't know even know why
diana_coman: well, so you go and yell at the owner, lol
diana_coman: that must at least let some frustration out
mike_c: yes, but this is hardly a good solution for a wiki. you, for example, did not go yell at the owner
mike_c: you just didn't post
diana_coman: true, because I thought that well, if there is some interest in the thing, they will come asking on eulora /irc and then we sort it out
diana_coman: no need to sort it out earlier
diana_coman: and there you came asking, so it worked
diana_coman: I did raise the problem on eulora channel
mike_c: yes, but it took six weeks. picking some cat photos seems like less of a pain.
mike_c: but, this is religious debate.
diana_coman: on some days I admit I might send the cats and dogs and site to all hell and as a result not post
mike_c: hehe
diana_coman: but then again, that might be just me, I admit it
diana_coman: btw, out of curiosity: why is this eulorom site apart entirely from mingame.bz? I thought eulora was essentially made by minigame so I don't quite follow the different sites/lack of links or is there something I'm missing?
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/552233452083625984
assbot: To would-be auditors: don't play the charade of checking if exchanges are solvent once every few months; real-time crypto-auditing or GTFO.
BingoBoingo: ^ @Beautyon_ @petertoddbtc Well, @Bitstamp being more than two cans and string could have helped a lot.
thestringpuller: who remembers this: https://gist.github.com/peternixey/1978249
mike_c: diana_coman: the wiki is a "fan site". not run by minigame.
diana_coman: ohhh, cool mike_c
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thestringpuller: fan boiz
mike_c: captcha fixed, no cats.
thestringpuller: captcha shoud be sloths
thestringpuller: how could a sloth ever be the face of evil
mike_c: that's the problem. sloths can't defeat spammers. cats can.
thestringpuller: http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Omg+_fc9effa8742cabca49c35ae4827382e4.jpg
mike_c: wtf is that evil link?
mike_c: psa: don't click that.
thestringpuller: XD
thestringpuller: it's a picture of a sloth
thestringpuller: hosted by funnyjunk
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/vault-of-satoshi-is-closing-why/
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2015#966169 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-01-2015 21:34:11; ascii_modem: re: mircea's 'ircd' article:
asciilifeform: damn.
asciilifeform: like 'phantom limb.'
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asciilifeform: punkman: [fpga thread] would MIPS be easier than x86? or does the problem lie in connecting the thing to outside world (fast RAM, peripherals, etc) << problem is that you can't make so much as a barrel shifter on any extant fpga without using a closed turd from the vendor - actually, two turds: one in the logic library part itself, other - the synthesis toolchain
asciilifeform: punkman: one can attempt to work with just the synthesis toolchain (no escape from it) and use netlists of 'raw' logic - i.e. simple universal constructs like 'nand gate'. the result - go try it - a very simple kindergarten-level circuit fills up the entire chip, with glacial performance (gate delays measured in msec!)
asciilifeform: this is because the entire fpga concept, as imagined by n00bs to the subject, does not actually work.
asciilifeform: folks doing actual work with fpga make very light use of the general-purpose routing matrix
asciilifeform: and of the LUTs
asciilifeform: mostly they hook up vendor 'library' parts together. these usually (though not always) correspond to miniature 'islands' of asic present on the chip
asciilifeform: e.g., an adder, a shifter, uart, 500 other kinds of part.
asciilifeform: punkman: but back to original question, mips is vastly easier to implement in programmable logic of whatever kind than x86. this ought to be obvious to anyone with even an evening's familiarity with both.
asciilifeform: anyone learn the fate of nanotube yet ?
ben_vulpes: not i
ben_vulpes: get a cloak toddf
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gitmo, no doubt
asciilifeform mutters something about parachutes
kakobrekla: do you have one?
asciilifeform: neh i only have a splat.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-12-2014#956971 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2014 03:23:35; asciilifeform: i dare to invoke the 'parachute theorem' and say now, that when wot is taken seriously by intelligent and resourceful enemies, it will be rather late.