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pete_dushenski: go bitcoin!
pete_dushenski: though 'ath' parses quite a bit like defunct 'atc' but that's probably just me
ben_vulpes: or atf
cazalla: i unno, i figured it was obvious
cazalla: at least in the context of qntra and having used all time high and ath a few times before in qntra articles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00040818 = 3.7883 BTC [+]
cazalla: pete_dushenski, don't you know that variety speak? :P
pete_dushenski: lol still learning apparently
pete_dushenski: which reminds me that i've been meaning to do a variety speak guide for noobs...
pete_dushenski: it's just... there's so many goddam words and phrases
pete_dushenski: it'd be a textbook
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14125 @ 0.00040437 = 5.7117 BTC [-]
cazalla: mebe ath is more a gamer thing, for example, muh dps hit an ath
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00040818 = 3.8573 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/22/in-defense-of-wealthy-politicians/
assbot: In defense of wealthy politicians. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/17oH0mz )
pete_dushenski: that they need any defense at all should be a red flag to society
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00040818 = 6.0411 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4034 @ 0.00040437 = 1.6312 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 344740 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 2011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44645581059.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.36719
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/rally/ ☟︎
assbot: Rally 'round the white flag ... ( http://bit.ly/1AkwsQP )
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
indiancandy1: does anyone kno anything about
indiancandy1: bots that increase hits on utube
BingoBoingo: I don't know much more than they apparently exist
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00040818 = 20.4906 BTC [+]
cazalla: indiancandy1, can probably be had for cheap on fiverr
cazalla: you'll also be needing a time machine to go back to 2008 for when youtube ranked videos solely on views alone
BingoBoingo: !up aegis
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00040818 = 2.7756 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up starzz_
starzz_: thank you
starzz_: if I have been everified in bitcoin-otc does that translate to bitcoin assets
BingoBoingo: starzz_: It does with gribble, but for voice here you need to send assbot !up
BingoBoingo: starzz_: Also you probably want to go to #freenode and request a cloak, some asshole intermittently runs a DoS bot here
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
indiancandy1: im not doinit for utube ranking
indiancandy1: im doing it 4
indiancandy1: media
indiancandy1: ahaha
indiancandy1: i wanna do a twerk video
indiancandy1: then di news around it
indiancandy1: 3mill hit in 3days
indiancandy1: etc
ben_vulpes: do it in the nude, only way to get that kind of traffic.
indiancandy1: it wont go on thew news
indiancandy1: media wont pick it up
indiancandy1: if its nude
ben_vulpes: you're competing with kim kardashian, after all.
ben_vulpes: tell that to kim.
indiancandy1: kim
indiancandy1: has media on payroll
indiancandy1: i dont
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: You know how she got them on payroll...
indiancandy1: but kim initially had money
indiancandy1: i dont
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00040818 = 8.8983 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: such sexcuses.
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: No she didn't. Not until she made that flick with Ray J
indiancandy1: her dad
indiancandy1: was oj simpsons attorney
indiancandy1: she came from a middle class family
indiancandy1: the porn did help
indiancandy1: she sold it for 5mill
indiancandy1: but she had money b4
indiancandy1: i dnt
ben_vulpes: you gotta drop this "can't do anything cuz no money lol" attitude and focus on getting some money.
indiancandy1: yea
indiancandy1: but
indiancandy1: yea
indiancandy1: i need hits
ben_vulpes: !b 5 ✂︎
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2KHHJJC.txt )
indiancandy1: so the media wil pick it
indiancandy1: ytview chargs 6000 dollars
danielpbarron: you are getting hits right now..
indiancandy1: for 3million
ben_vulpes: don't fuck around trying to get the attention of interns in tv companies, that's not going to fly.
indiancandy1: whose on instagram btw
ben_vulpes: go fuck a television company executive, wrap him around your finger, leverage like that.
indiancandy1: i have a publicist
indiancandy1: lol
indiancandy1: but the media wont pick it up
indiancandy1: if its not like wow
indiancandy1: 2mill hits in 3days
indiancandy1: wow
indiancandy1: kinda thing
indiancandy1: unless i pay
indiancandy1: the media
indiancandy1: and tats costly
danielpbarron: can you try to condense your thoughts into single lines?
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Have you considered dating a rapper?
BingoBoingo: Works for Kim
indiancandy1: no rappers in uk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5961 @ 0.0004118 = 2.4547 BTC [+]
indiancandy1: whose on instagram
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: wealthy politicians << u.s. folks perhaps remember perot ? interesting fella
pete_dushenski: ;;google ross perot
gribble: Ross Perot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>; H. Ross Perot - Famous Texans: <http://www.famoustexans.com/rossperot.htm>; Ross Perot - Biography - Business Leader - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/ross-perot-9438032>
pete_dushenski: 'computer billionaire'
asciilifeform: usg billionaire
pete_dushenski: bon soir!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0004118 = 1.5031 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
punkman: indiancandy1: no rappers in uk << plenty of them but they are all poor
punkman: on the other hand, London's full of people with way too much money
TheNewDeal: ;;Bids 216.9
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 4390.3307 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 993477.3393 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0440 seconds
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/just-asking-the-science-guy-bill-nye-gets-hot/2015/02/11/1e278afa-a66c-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html < Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' as kulaks "We have this top tier [of scientists] in the U.S., the people who graduated from Stanford, from Berkeley, from MIT, Cornell. Those people are still exceptional and really good. But we have this enormous gap between that and
assbot: Just Asking: The Science Guy Bill Nye gets hot - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZy9yj )
decimation: just regular software writers
decimation: and farmers and people that need to be scientifically literate."
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 236.5, vol: 7821.09675746 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 230.106, vol: 7852.57648 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 237.07, vol: 31142.23300928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 235.8784, vol: 138020.38710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 235.0, vol: 21.3968592 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 233.964227, vol: 77.03579533 | Volume-weighted last average: 235.85934577
TheNewDeal: ;;Ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.98, Best ask: 236.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.77000, Last trade: 236.88, 24 hour volume: 7857.00240715, 24 hour low: 232.48, 24 hour high: 247.0, 24 hour vwap: 237.411802714
nubbins`: re: uboot on pogo
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 how goes ho!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: hm?
nubbins`: http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html
assbot: Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZyYqB )
asciilifeform: nubbins`: yes, i think it was linked here a while ago
asciilifeform presently investigating why netbsd does not correctly initialize sata or sd controllers
mircea_popescu: !up dek_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13048 @ 0.00040876 = 5.3335 BTC [-]
indiancandy1: hey mp bae
indiancandy1: i miss u
dek_: hello
mircea_popescu: so where's your twerking vid ?
mircea_popescu: how goes dek_
mats: hm, i learned today you can prepend your prompt with a ':' and have a ';' at the end, it will ignore whats in between so you can just copy and paste lines right from your terminal
danielpbarron: nubbins`, did you ever get that to work?
nubbins`: danielpbarron yeah, it's serving up files via smb right now
danielpbarron: oh.. but not bitcoind ?
nubbins`: no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering
nubbins`: :/
danielpbarron: bitcoind: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by bitcoind)
nubbins`: well, wait now.
nubbins`: didn't alf post some binaries to the ml?
nubbins`: danielpbarron +1
danielpbarron: and that's after i added a 'testing' repository to the sources list and upgraded libc
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering << ahahaha
nubbins`: XD
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
danielpbarron: not that this is even what's gonna be used ultimately; i thought i'd just try it out real quick and it ended up becoming an obsession
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: those were -wrong-
nubbins`: yeah
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 344752 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1999 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48520572098.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.93321
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: use mod6's recipe for building -properly- static ones
nubbins`: you're not trying to compile it on the pogo itself, are you?
danielpbarron: no
danielpbarron: i'm using the binary i cross-compiled on my gentoo machine
nubbins`: okay, was gonna say.. 8)
danielpbarron: the same binary that works on ArchLinux
asciilifeform: incidentally, seems like all the bsd folks disable the cpu cache on pogo
asciilifeform: i'd like to learn why
asciilifeform: but see also:
asciilifeform: !s the lifeboat mutiny
assbot: 2 results for 'the lifeboat mutiny' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+lifeboat+mutiny
asciilifeform: ^ on the pitfalls of reconnecting that which has been yanked
nubbins`: ...
nubbins`: is the pitfall incomplete search results?
nubbins`: o, wait. there we go.
mod6: this was never actually posted publically yet. there is some very strange bjam error that doesn't allow the bash script to continue automatically. if one runs it, then you'll have to comment out the build lines for openssl, bdb, and boost and re-run.
mod6: I can post it if you wanna use it though. the hope was to have a fixed one here by sometime next week.
asciilifeform: post plz
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1: but she had money b4 << girl's done her homework.
BingoBoingo: Less than 6 months left for 0.7.2 WTF to finish syncing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what machine ?
mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7MXmP2ba
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZA5Xt )
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1: ytview chargs 6000 dollars << you're prolly going to end up stuck around that sort of price, quarter cent per k, whatever.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pedestrian AMD powered laptop AMD E-350 CPU
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's the actual transfer rate ?
asciilifeform: on the wire
mod6: sorry, damn hotel wireless keeps dropping me like every 90 seconds.
danielpbarron: so is it possible that i need to recompile my bitcoind, and this debian install is just fine? and for some reason ArchLinux doesn't mind?
asciilifeform: is it connecting preferentially to nodes in afghanistan, ip over dead goat ?
mod6 is on-the-road
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if i had build that thing properly static, it would not be an issue
asciilifeform: *built
nubbins`: dgoip
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I honestly and humbly lack the faculties of knowledge necessary to determine such
asciilifeform: hmm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: have you tried restricting it to one known-good node on the lan to sync from ?
mircea_popescu: decimation: Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' << afaik this view was never controversial. i was kinda surprised to see people react to my ocasional statement to the effect with total shock.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nope, syncing "in the wild" to make sure it can. Looking like it will be a sub 2 week sync time so happy with that
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: the way i'm thinking now, the 'sync from one node at a time' thing will have to be killed with fire before 0.5.3/pogo (or otherwise) is given to civilians
asciilifeform: just like the memory leak
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seems so
asciilifeform: because having it there - it is just unforgivable idiocy
mircea_popescu: myeah
mod6: the static build script seems to exit after line 53 for some reason, haven't had time to debug. if one should figure out a workaround/fix/patch for that, that'd be much appreciated. otherwise I can fix myself when I'm back.
mircea_popescu: problem is... not that straughtforward fix
asciilifeform: aha, requires sewing not only ripping
asciilifeform: ripping - easy
mod6: be advised that lines 4, 6 & 8 of that script need to be tuned to your local environment!
mod6: :]
asciilifeform: bad enough that i'm apparently chasing a low-level bit diddling bug in a sata driver for a godforsaken chip on a godforsaken os
asciilifeform: how did i fall into such a life.
asciilifeform: and would any of you care to do this instead
mircea_popescu: man with young children. "how did i fall into such a life!"
mircea_popescu: cuz you liked teh woman, foo.
nubbins`: sadly, the cheapest pogo a canadian can land is $25usd
nubbins`: still notu badu
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and which one was that
mod6: anyway, the foundation will publish a polished script sometime during the first few weeks of march.
nubbins`: blue "mobile", no lid. ebay.
mod6: sorry I didn't get a chance to clean that up before I left.
nubbins`: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pogoplug-POGO-V4-A1-01-Mobile-for-PC-MAC-and-iPhone-iPad-/261410065617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdd410cd1#shpCntId
assbot: Pogoplug Pogo V4 A1 01 Mobile FOR PC MAC AND Iphone Ipad 850877002290 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZAM2U )
nubbins`: er no removable lid
asciilifeform: nubbins`: sata-less
nubbins`: nod
nubbins`: right, someone mentioned the exercise in patience i have awaiting me
nubbins`: ~$35usd for sata-ful
asciilifeform: nubbins`: can't order from usian 'amazon' ?
mod6: for the vi-impared, if you run the script as-is, and you hit that weird issue as I did, simply start up vi and run this
mod6: :35,53 s/^/#/
asciilifeform: or killer postage cost
nubbins`: well, no, maybe the same
mod6: then :wq and re-run the script
nubbins`: asciilifeform most electronic items simply do not offer a checkout button for canadians
danielpbarron: what is shipping from US to CA?
nubbins`: danielpbarron insanely cheap for everything but electronics.
asciilifeform: i've never had problems getting items from ca
nubbins`: phun phact, we order most of our paper from brooklyn
danielpbarron: how would they know?
danielpbarron: i mean from me to you
nubbins`: how would the shippers know?
nubbins`: o.
nubbins`: the customs form, i guess
nubbins`: i don't think there's any special duty or anything, just american electronics websites usually charge limbs to .ca
nubbins`: you mailing me ten packaged pogos would raise eyebrows at customs
danielpbarron: eh, unless you're getting more than one it's probably not worth it anyway for just 15 bucks
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ?
mod6: last note: this is all predicated on the fact that one would have run the v0.0.8 perl script to patch the R.I. So you might need to alter line 62 to point to the correct bitcoin build directory.
nubbins`: it really is only like another $8 for the purple logo'd one, hey?
danielpbarron: yes
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? << Surprised Cryptsy didn't hit the shitlist earlier
asciilifeform: what even was it...
nubbins`: i feel like i have a sata drive from my last laptop somewhere
mircea_popescu: me too. i guess nobody cared.
nubbins`: it drank a beer
danielpbarron: that's the idea / that most people probably have a harddrive they can rip out of an old laptop
nubbins`: danielpbarron in fact, if i order two pogos on ebay, it automatically adds import charges
nubbins`: one pogo, no charges
nubbins`: dem regulations
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: that was precisely why i wanted the sata feature, yes
danielpbarron: how much would 2 cost you?
nubbins`: overall slightly cheaper per unit than ordering one
danielpbarron: even with the extra charge?
nubbins`: added import charges, marginally higher shipping cost
nubbins`: yep
danielpbarron: fwiw, my profession is shipping/recieving
danielpbarron: specifically LTL
mircea_popescu: haha cool.
BingoBoingo sees need for WoT endorsed BTC courier service. If in 2 years does not exist and BTCexchange rate/Qntra workload stabilizes may consider
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0004118 = 5.0446 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: might be one of those 'requires fortress' things
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron srsly, mayhap make a business out of it ? btc clearance warehouse
danielpbarron: i had that idea last year
mircea_popescu: "ship me anything you want, ask for anything you want"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. Obstacle is pricing drug fucks out of service.
mircea_popescu: add a storage service to it, etc.
mircea_popescu: "leaving the us to go chase the republic ? ship me your shit. ill store or sell it"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wot only.
asciilifeform: bitmule
nubbins`: danielpbarron hmm
nubbins`: what can we work out here :D
mircea_popescu: !up dek_
BingoBoingo: mod6: You know once 0.5.3.x stabilizes there's probably an opportunity for driving utilization by submitting it to various *BSD Ports trees as bitcoind-LTS
nubbins`: :o
mircea_popescu: implying anyone but us uses bsd
asciilifeform: ^l0l
BingoBoingo: Well, appliance use of various BSD's is not uncommon
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us
mircea_popescu: how ? we'd just join.
BingoBoingo: Old desktop + OpenBSD pf = loadbalancer sort of thing/
asciilifeform joins
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious
asciilifeform: earlier usg
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not so much earlier as to be alien or ancient. I mean they were propping up dementia guy from the TV ads as a figurehead
asciilifeform: (also can talk about att being every bit as 'usg' as any ministry, at the time of being a national telecom megamonopoly)
mircea_popescu: gunnery sargeant hartmann usg
asciilifeform: orwell more or less spot on - nothing happened in the 20th c. except as nominally decreed in some mega-empire or other
mircea_popescu: like btc.
asciilifeform: in the loose sense where what happened at bell had anything to do with the throne
mircea_popescu: o sorry you said 20th
asciilifeform: 20th!
asciilifeform: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/fa.netbsd.tech.kern/8K8OcXVxyXM
assbot: Google Discussiegroepen ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB24aY )
asciilifeform: ^ what i'm seeing with my entire collection of sata drives
asciilifeform: netbsd is unusable unless+until this is fixed
asciilifeform: on pogo.
BingoBoingo: !up hanbot
BingoBoingo: !up paxtoncamaro91
indiancandy1: im watchin a movie
indiancandy1: rocknrola
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42461 @ 0.00041362 = 17.5627 BTC [+] {3}
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mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/11/the_question_isnt_why_do_babie.html#c039912
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Question Isn't Why Do Babies Do It ... ( http://bit.ly/1EGMVyh )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, no those books aren't albums. Just pulp. Titles on the spines look great on the bookshelf though. Cover art isn't bad either
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wtf, i'd fail this test even now. who's to say that 'climber' is really being 'helped' by being pushed up
asciilifeform: and this is supposed to be clear to a baby ?
mircea_popescu: it's fucking stupid is whjat it is
ben_vulpes: y'r thinkin too hard, alf
asciilifeform: it's rubbish
mircea_popescu: it IS clear to a baby, but only because babies are retards.
asciilifeform: unadulterated rubbish
ben_vulpes: it's supposed to validate the underlying thesis.
mircea_popescu: this neoprotestant platonic pedophilia is outright obscene
mircea_popescu: ESPECIALLY in the context of how agitated they are about fucking children.
nubbins`: why did this guy stop updating his blog
BingoBoingo: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Hipsters On Food Stamps, Part 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB5p9Z )
mircea_popescu: alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg
nubbins`: how pedestrian an end
mircea_popescu: even if that happened... he's not actually good enough.
asciilifeform: nah gewagenen
mircea_popescu: no wai.
nubbins`: prolly got fed up and moved to the woods
mircea_popescu: listen, there's not that much hr available. given your other beliefs you are required to believe he's the lizard hitler now.
nubbins`: i wonder what book /he/ took
mircea_popescu: nubbins` shaw
BingoBoingo: https://www.michaelwlucas.com/autobiography/the-porn-star
assbot: The Porn Star « Michael W Lucas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB5Wsy )
asciilifeform: neh, his reptilian majesty is too pumped on meth and playing 'space invaders' with live gurlz to be tlp
mircea_popescu: orly.
mircea_popescu: guy admits to being a drunk...
asciilifeform: stalins don't drink. only yeltsins drink
asciilifeform: or at least, take to drink
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> guy admits to being a drunk... << Most drunks do. Drunks are braggarts.
mircea_popescu: notice that there's no space for lizard hitler being any kind of stalin.
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
asciilifeform: but sure, the lizarditude of the observable universe is a bit much to fit in a man-sized bucket. sorta like the apparent limit to achievable magnetic field density..
indiancandy1: im buyin 1000 instagram followers
indiancandy1: for 5 dollars
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: why?!
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: at least read 'Spam Like A Pro In 21 Days' first.
indiancandy1: whats that
BingoBoingo: https://www.michaelwlucas.com/autobiography/the-thumbs
assbot: The Thumbs « Michael W Lucas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB6Hln )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re the name, i definitely got that one pat. no romanian's ever going to be a contender. and that mircea chick really faded after a brief moment of fame
indiancandy1: spam like a pro
danielpbarron: i tried to buy twitter followers on the silk road once, but canceled when the guy couldn't decrypt the GPG message containing the username (not for my account / i was trying to freak out an associate of mine who takes twitter way too seriously despite having only 50 followers)
mircea_popescu: which, coincidentally or not, centers on me writing an article about her
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno, that artist and his blawg...
mircea_popescu: yaya
indiancandy1: wat is spam like a pro
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 basically he's saying this is a full time job and you won't be seeing any roi as an amateur
BingoBoingo: !b 3 ✂︎
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asciilifeform: dear kiyohara takashi, wtf. sincerely,
asciilifeform: everyone
indiancandy1: roi?
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: Return on Investment
danielpbarron: indiancandy1, btw -- bought followers are worthless; they don't get you impressions or engagements. it just makes the number on your profile look big (so what)
mircea_popescu: return on investment
indiancandy1: 3pound
indiancandy1: is not a loss
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: do you drive a car? when you go to a petrol pump, do you pay them to fill your tank? or to wind your gauge to 'full' by hand ?
indiancandy1: i dont drive
indiancandy1: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: could be why having problem grasping the concept
mircea_popescu: well, she's trying to do something. which in principle is sane, better do something than nothing at all.
indiancandy1: lol
asciilifeform: nobody alive does 'nothing at all'
indiancandy1: aww mp sticking up 4 me
asciilifeform: everybody's trying 'something'
asciilifeform: afaik
asciilifeform: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c?annotate=1.34&only_with_tag=MAIN
assbot: src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c - annotate - 1.34 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB7RgI )
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you got twitch ? or how the fuck is that ipad dating app called
indiancandy1: what
indiancandy1: twich?
indiancandy1: never heard of it
indiancandy1: im not down with the cool kids
mircea_popescu: ;;google wtf is that stupid ipad dating app called
gribble: Oh God, I Spent $494.04 Playing the Kim Kardashian Hollywood App: <http://jezebel.com/oh-god-i-spent-494-04-playing-the-kim-kardashian-holl-1597154346>; Talking Angela iPhone app scare spreads on Facebook | Naked ...: <https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/02/25/talking-angela-iphone-app-scare/>; 7+ Frustrating Things in iOS 8 and What To Do About Them: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tinder
indiancandy1: tell me more
asciilifeform: mats described it here
indiancandy1: no i dont do u ?
danielpbarron: #LeftSwipeDat
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 : buy borrow or steal an ipad ; install tinder ; go out wtih ALL the guys, insist they promote you on their social media.
danielpbarron: the app is so popular, the truth anti-smoking ads assume you're already familiar with it
indiancandy1: ahaha
mircea_popescu: do at least 3 a day, that's 20 a week. a month later you got mommentum plus enough dining out experience to start your own cooking blog
mircea_popescu: now go.
indiancandy1: o my
indiancandy1: mp
indiancandy1: ur so funny
danielpbarron has never seen, let alone used tinder
mircea_popescu: im not joking.
indiancandy1: is it for casual sex
mircea_popescu: yes. it's for casual sex with geeky derps.
BingoBoingo: Swipe right every day, #YesAllWomen
danielpbarron: hahahaha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's rich, lol. rather like saying that spam is for nigerians to become millionaires
danielpbarron: wait is that not a joke.. is that what that hashtag meant?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you that if she had the mettle to obey me exactly she'd have that viral she wants.
asciilifeform: quite likely
mircea_popescu: the problem is, you don't get the girl in a position to execute without the basement halfyear.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Not a joke.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The statement preceeding the hashtag is literally what the hashtag is all about
indiancandy1: nigerians do yahoo yahoo it involves witchcraft
indiancandy1: there are actually witchdoctors that specialise in this 419 thing
asciilifeform: since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it provides structure for the conversation.
indiancandy1: it works on gprs
indiancandy1: so basically seeking locals
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware
mircea_popescu: you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz.
asciilifeform: but that's the actual mega-problem
mircea_popescu: so you're stuck being in the same space.
cazalla: nothing worse than a woman enthral by her iphone, i'd bet the tinder girls are much worse
indiancandy1: it should be called seeking locals
cazalla: i would do the twitch thing tbh, tinder dating you are capped at one man per date, twitch is unlimited
indiancandy1: its for people who just want casual sex
indiancandy1: and this days most of society just want that
BingoBoingo: <indiancandy1> it should be called seeking locals << This is why you suck at spam 101
asciilifeform: see also the wunderwaffen thread:
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2015#1017942 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2015 02:47:47; mircea_popescu: do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ?
indiancandy1: i dont spam
indiancandy1: ?
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: I know. It's jsut actual descriptive names don't ever go viral
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day."
asciilifeform: my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more?
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, the app helps in that it isn't aimed at establishing long-term relationships; you can already have a new one-night-stand ready for when you're done with the current one
indiancandy1: it should be called sluts r us
indiancandy1: ahahahahahahah
cazalla: indiancandy1, quit slut shaming
mircea_popescu: sluts r us!
asciilifeform: well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate
danielpbarron: from what i understand though, the guys are the sluts; the app is for women
indiancandy1: there is one for gays also
asciilifeform: ^ now -that- would make sense
indiancandy1: and one for lesboz
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re pit, zappa's opinions re disco.
mircea_popescu: iirc quoted here a while back too
BingoBoingo: <indiancandy1> there is one for gays also << Grindr
indiancandy1: ya
cazalla: back in my day we had to use adult friend finder, none of this fancy iphone shit
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: costs?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Heathen pit costs time
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can afford a computer, you can afford to visit pub
asciilifeform: ah hm.
indiancandy1: hot girls dont go pubs
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your forget idiots suck at math
indiancandy1: hot girls go to bars
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: bar is not same as pub where you live ?
indiancandy1: london
indiancandy1: and its completley different
cazalla: likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under
danielpbarron: is the difference whether you sit or stand?
indiancandy1: no
asciilifeform bows out of this thread because realizes he has no personal experience with any of the things therein, at all, nor does he have a working theoretical model of them
indiancandy1: if i had 2 compare it to hotels i would say a bar is more 5star and pub is like local bed and breakfast
cazalla: pub is more cheap food and booze, bar is more.. cocktail.. you'd never get a cocktail at a pub.. unless ya like a poof or something
danielpbarron: i can't find a good cocktail anywhere
indiancandy1: unless ur like a poof
indiancandy1: thats funny
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: generally you make 'em.
indiancandy1: daniel were do u liive
ben_vulpes: or have the girl do it.
danielpbarron: yep
ben_vulpes: a, the...
danielpbarron: indiancandy1, Connecticut (the state next to new york city)
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under << Here pub is fancier subset of bar where craft beer poofs congregate
cazalla: this is why true blue aussie battler slim dusty sang of a pub with no beer and not no cocktails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E0aZ387M_I
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BingoBoingo: http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-10-reasons-why-the-gabf-sucks.html << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. I’m well-aware of the brewery association’s rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli
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BingoBoingo: gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesn’t mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene
indiancandy1: in dubai u get nice pubs
indiancandy1: GOODNIGHT EVRYBODY
indiancandy1: XXXXXXXX
BingoBoingo: http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-champagne-is-fucking-overrated.html
assbot: Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBbgwa )
ben_vulpes: oi fuck you
ben_vulpes: champagne is not overrated
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It totally is
BingoBoingo: !up indiancandy1
BingoBoingo: !up unbalanced
ben_vulpes: bourbon? self-disqualified.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Bourbon is good, but still not as efficient as pure ETOH
decimation: champagne from champagne or fizzy wine in general?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, I linked a text authored by a person with more polished thoughts on the matter
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/01/hey_we_just_now_invented_a_coc.html#comment-26844 << tlp gets some outright great comments
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ben_vulpes: decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference.
BingoBoingo: I’m not going to go overboard here by claiming that there’s somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanal—say, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor?
BingoBoingo: "There’s a gathering ‘round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams… And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar
BingoBoingo: ely half a cup of soda water gone rotten, say aaah, and limply burp. Hooray?"
ben_vulpes: poor people opining about champagne.
ben_vulpes: good find, BingoBoingo.
mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy.
mircea_popescu: also, shibaru dressed. srsly.
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: what's the point?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean dressed as in swimwear either.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Not quite. More people opining on the forgetableness of champagne for the serious drink hobbyist.
mircea_popescu: fuckign street clothes.
danielpbarron: thestringpuller> danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? << no; not sure if i've even been to windsor
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink?
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening
ben_vulpes: was there anything interesting on display at all?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it was like 2 other guys and about 7 girls. exactly one barely fuckable in the lot, and she looked and acted like a 17 yo cutting class.
ben_vulpes: sounds par for your experiences down south.
mircea_popescu: on re-read i guess to some people that sounds like praise. it ain't.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes somehow this disease where "words, we are using them" has definitely spread to here.
mircea_popescu: i blame tv.
cazalla: you know, one of the many things i don't grasp about bdsm is what looks like a desire of people to do it in a social setting than privacy of ones own home
mircea_popescu: cazalla ever fucked a girl in public ?
cazalla: not in full view, no
mircea_popescu: ever thought about doin' it ?
cazalla: off to the side, out of view, yes, but not a habit either
cazalla: no, not really, i like the comfort of home where shameful acts remain out of sight
mircea_popescu: well then makes sense.
mircea_popescu: not a fan of restaurants either ?
unbalanced: Sheesh, the conversation always takes a turn in the minutes it takes me to read a link and find a relevant reply
cazalla: i'm not, but prob for reasons other than implied (don't like to eat in front of others i'm guessing, but that does not bother me)
unbalanced: mp, re: the TLP comment I saw this the other day: https://twitter.com/renaudbedard/status/567827024775127040
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mircea_popescu: jus' saying, you know, each has his own inclinations. some ppl like it. some don't mind it. etc.
unbalanced: BingoBoingo, thanks for the upvoice
mircea_popescu: unbalanced happens to me occasionally too. {|||} etc stuff
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: You're welcome. It's been a while
unbalanced: I wander off for a few months and sites fall off the web like flies.
unbalanced: I take it Altcoin is history? And Virtex and VoS here in Canada.
mircea_popescu: for plenty of girls being fucked in public is a major trespass, and sexual arousal and taboo breaking are intrinsically linked.
cazalla: i assume you mean in full view of the public and not hidden away up a side alley
cazalla: a romp in the side alley = fear of being caught, but in full view of the public and on display for anyone that cares to watch.. must be something else?
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: ATC died, mining became unteneable
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: On the plus side ATC's death highlighted a critical vulnerability in mining economics for alts
unbalanced: I guess when X-BT was gone, miners saw no market for ATC?
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: ATC's death prompted X-BT to end, not the reverse
unbalanced: Aside from OTC here in IRC I guess.
unbalanced: Still, hard to find "a greater fool" to dump ATC on with me absent.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l re: cocaine vaccine. the proposed 'dope vaccines' are one of the true eldrich horrors, that, were they actually put to use, would make folks pine for herr doktor mengele and his mercies
unbalanced: Nice work on qntra, btw
asciilifeform: think for a minute if the 'why' isn't obvious
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Well the MPIF ATC profit center died because MP ordered it when he saw continuing anything aTC would involve potentially unbounded costs.
unbalanced: To all involved.
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asciilifeform: picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres
asciilifeform: (i can't picture a 'cocaine vaccine' doing anything else, if it works at all)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << This
unbalanced: *nice work to all involved meaning BingoBoingo / cazalla / mp, unless I'm missing anyone.
asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine'
asciilifeform: i can see it as a grotesque means of execution, however.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Our best recent piece was asciilifeform's disk controller epic
unbalanced: Oh jeez, I see the Dec statement, lots of authors. Nice model!
asciilifeform: 'vaccinate' poor schmuck and lock him in an oubliette with a rusty razor.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Our most retweeted recently though was me cribbing crunchbase, because fuck Superfish/TimDraper
BingoBoingo: !uo gernika
BingoBoingo: !up Bagels7
BingoBoingo: !up unbalanced
unbalanced: asciilifeform: my favourite part of that was learning that there's a "Persistence Division" -- sounds like an 80's electronica band
mircea_popescu: cazalla well... something else, sure. like a strong signal to the other females.
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cazalla: looks like one of the cloudhashing.com guys has a new scam at freebitcoins.com to harvest emails at 0.0001 per
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell indiancandy1 marketing 101 http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-thunderbird-is-the-word.html
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
unbalanced: Would you say Qubes is worth trying as a more secure OS? I think you mentioned it once wayyy back...
mircea_popescu: 2 cents an email ? hey, that's about what megalists cost.
asciilifeform: unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate
asciilifeform: unbalanced: hence persistence-through-diddled-hw shenanigans
unbalanced: ...so I looked for a laptop that would support all the goodies in Qubes, and ended up buying -- wait for it -- a Lenovo.
unbalanced: Can't win.
asciilifeform: unbalanced: qubes << i most certainly never suggested it. as far as i can see, it's plain 'xen' and subject to all the caveats thereof ('escapes' etc)
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: My online machine is still a 2011 vintage cheapo thinkpad. Love it.
asciilifeform: as a general rule, piss on anyone pitching a linux distro as 'an os'
asciilifeform: there is no excuse for lying. don't say 'i wrote an os' when you rolled a linux distro like 100,000 other folks.
unbalanced: Of course it wasn't a consumer Lenovo, but it seems if you buy the latest Intel processor for security features you may be buying a factory-pwned unit anyway.
asciilifeform: if gonna lie, at least try to be believable ?
BingoBoingo is coming around to idea that if linux is used msut be built from toothpicks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun think you understand how pubescent male brain works.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The cheapo lenovos come with AMD
unbalanced: I'd buy a used ThinkPad but who knows how diddled that would be now from 4 years of some shlub surfing porn?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to the extent i know how any other one works.
asciilifeform: wasn't, after all, born this age.
BingoBoingo finds present online machine valuable because acquired well before could have been considered interesting personally
danielpbarron: i chatted with someone the other day who claimed to be using a "custom OS" / when pressed further he admitted it was ubuntu with some features disabled
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "hi baby i'm a producer". " i made an os"
asciilifeform: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/28288/20150123/researchers-test-anti-cocaine-vaccine-taps-immune-system-to-end-addiction.htm << this is interesting -only- because of the photo of the crack woman from pediwikia. it used to have a face!
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asciilifeform: i saw it many times
asciilifeform: and it had a face.
mircea_popescu: i even have this captured in trilema amber
asciilifeform: that photo only existed as a propaganda device, 'woman, see what the dope life does to face?!'
asciilifeform: and now it looks almost normal
asciilifeform: but i can see some pediwikian fuhrer going 'we shall now censor faces'
asciilifeform: re: 'dope life':
asciilifeform: there are conditions that interfere with sleep. as in, cannot - or can only rarely - sleep. eventually fatal. but before victim dies, he experiences more or less the whole gamut of 'meth addict' pathologies.
mircea_popescu: actually i so very much doubt that has to be fatal...
asciilifeform: which suggests that u.s. army medics were right, and meth (or other stimulator) per se doesn't poison the user
mircea_popescu: if i ever get one i'll report.
unbalanced: BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kills via immune collapse
asciilifeform: iirc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the thing is, when i don't actually sleep i revert to these 4 hour cycles with about an hourish of downtime, and im fine.
mircea_popescu: i think the pathology results from not actually respecting that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pathology arises in cases where victim - usually for reason of taking stimulator nonstop - feels no compulsion to sleep.
asciilifeform: this is not the only incident of 'modern' medicine failing to factor out comorbidities correctly
mircea_popescu is one of those rare folks that can stand guard two weeks and still appreciate humor at the end of it.
asciilifeform: see also tthe case of the wholly fictional 'crack babies'
asciilifeform: (which were, to the extent the pathologies were actual, vs imagined, alcohol babies)
cazalla: mircea_popescu, sleep deprived hysteria? had this after the first week with baby, i have never laughed so hard and all i assume as a result from total lack of sleep
asciilifeform personal record - 1 week. and appreciated humour perhaps too much after that. but story for another time
unbalanced: I saw bitwork.io in an early qntra.net article... is the maker from around here, an #asset-erian?
danielpbarron: i went a few days without sleep and began to hallucinate
cazalla: unbalanced, i don't believe so, exchanged a few emails with the guy who built that but unsure if he ever came here
danielpbarron: !up NewLiberty
mircea_popescu: cazalla no hysteria, but i get very disinclined to listen to what excuses anyone may have.
unbalanced: cazalla, thanks -- I was pondering a similar idea about how to divvy-up boring micro data-cleaning work by pipelining it to many users and doing micro-payments.
unbalanced: Like captcha's I'd need a human decision for the choices my code couldn't make... and would need to run each one by say 5 people then take the "wisdom of the crowds" consensus answer.
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mircea_popescu: this is the shittiest wetware cpu design yet.
unbalanced: Simple stuff for a native speaker in a given language: correcting capitalization on names, coding mistyped countries
ben_vulpes: unbalanced: the term is "asshat"
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unbalanced: Ohhhh that's why I get called asshat all the time.
unbalanced: But the question is, how do people driving by know I lurk here?
BingoBoingo: 'Ernest Gallo told and re-told a story about driving through Atlanta and spotting a man drinking on the sidewalk. “What’s the word?” Gallo called out. The response was instantaneous: “Thunderbird!” and both the wino and the millionaire dissolved into laughter.'
unbalanced: mircea_popescu: yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything there... I was hoping for an API to hook into but my needs are custom enough I'll likely have to roll my own UI anyway.
BingoBoingo: "Not surprisingly, this misguided attempt at respectability failed. Thereafter, Gallo disassociated itself from Thunderbird by simply removing the Gallo name from the Thunderbird label."
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BingoBoingo: "Television ads featured the fictional characters “Frank Bartles” and “Ed Jaymes,” two kindly old men so honest and down-to-earth they ended each spot by thanking viewers “for your support.”"
ben_vulpes: dude
ben_vulpes: everything in the ruby world is abandonware
BingoBoingo: !up unbalanced
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: what do you seriously expect from the language that spawned the framework that killed vircurex
unbalanced: Thanks Bingo
BingoBoingo: For people lacking history Vircurex was what cryptsy aspired to be until Vircurex was robbed to the point no one bothered robbing it anymore
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: it also runs davout's thing
unbalanced: We get a lot of data coming in where users enter things like "NHL" "Nat'l Hockey League" "N.H.l." or umpteen other bastardizations of whatever the short text field is asking for.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Davout also cares enough though to run off of a name. Vircurex was run by "Kumala" who even mircea_popescu doesn't care enough about to dox.
unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore via buzzword compliance: gamification, cryptocurrency, micropayments... child labor... addictive push notifications, the whole nine yeards.
unbalanced: Purely scratching my own itch there. Not proposing a wetware CPU startup. No Tesla coming out of this one, just fewer manual SQL statements.
unbalanced: Bingo, I get Bartles & Jaymes confused with the two cranberry farmers standing out in the marsh in their hip-waders
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> everything in the ruby world is abandonware << everything in the webworld is abandonware.
mircea_popescu: brace yourself for THAT discovery.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Maybe that is the point of the exercise. Everything one could want to know about "marketing" can be learned from Modern Drunkard.
unbalanced: I will be sure to leave branded empties near schoolyards like the Gallo salesment.
BingoBoingo: !up arvicco
asciilifeform: 'bitwork' << see also 'mechanical turk'
asciilifeform: (yes, named for the chess 'machine')
asciilifeform: it is, afaik, unique for one thing - being a haven of sp4mz0rz on both sides of the equation
asciilifeform: that is, most if not all of the jobs, last i checked, pertained to spam
unbalanced: Yes, I remember when Amazon came out with theirs, I read that story...
asciilifeform: but quite likely most of the 'workers' are also (secretly) bots.
unbalanced: (about the magical machine)
asciilifeform: ok i have no idea about others, but all of -mine- were bots, lol
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unbalanced: Heh. For data coding I think I'd have to limit use to trusted/trained users... hence my child labor crack.
unbalanced: We'll whip up a few pages where a few seniors and students can tap big colourful rectangles to make their selections.
unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along.
unbalanced: Steve Jobs is training the work force of the future, who knew?
unbalanced: Tap and flick your way to a food pellet and a little more water in your dish!
asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9EKh_lIEAE1O8u.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zywFMk )
asciilifeform: ^ 'workforce'
ben_vulpes: there's a particularly good sci fi story about people who lease their wetware out during the day, are monitored for minute reactions.
BingoBoingo: Twerkforce!!!
ben_vulpes: damned if i can remember it.
unbalanced: That's a lot of electricity for a Chinese prison.
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asciilifeform: gurlfarm
ben_vulpes: bitbet volume up this month?
unbalanced: Careful asciilifeform she's probably watching us right now.
unbalanced: Did I see a bitbet.py somewhere in the past month or so? That sounded neat.
BingoBoingo: Megalol >> https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2ws5jn/should_i_dox_myself_for_3/
assbot: Should I dox myself for $3? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/18fsqic )
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The classical bitbet.py is useful
ben_vulpes: okay i lost a weekend to ruby dependency hell
ben_vulpes: can i say something dramatic yet?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how'd ya like to lose a week to http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c?annotate=1.34&only_with_tag=MAIN
assbot: src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c - annotate - 1.34 ... ( http://bit.ly/1zyxapO )
BingoBoingo is still convinced NetBSD is a largely Jap fascination much like tentacle porn
BingoBoingo: !up unbalanced
BingoBoingo seriously though NEtBSD was for people who wanted sudo on their toasters
asciilifeform: on dead squirrels
BingoBoingo: That too.
asciilifeform: toaster - luxury, can run freebsd
BingoBoingo: I mean... Borked SATA drivers???
asciilifeform: borked on marvell
asciilifeform: and, supposedly, only for certain drives
asciilifeform: but happens to include all the ones i could find here
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: Building bitcoin-qt through an exercise that largely involved deleting makes me wonder what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting code
ben_vulpes: muntz on, good sir.
BingoBoingo: I'm thinking "Midori" web browser might be a next candidate
BingoBoingo: !up FabianB
BingoBoingo offers "midori" web browser particularly because all C
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asciilifeform: what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting << kernels
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Exactly. I'm just now discovering the power of the delete key and like a toddler want to use it on everything.
BingoBoingo: http://www.returnofkings.com/16637/negative-hiv-tests-for-sale?ModPagespeed=noscript
assbot: Negative HIV Tests For Sale ... ( http://bit.ly/1zyyrNE )
asciilifeform: wat
BingoBoingo: RC4, delete; NTFS, delete;
BingoBoingo: sshd, delete
BingoBoingo: !up dgeats
cazalla: lol http://google.com.vn/
assbot: Google ... ( http://bit.ly/18fth2C )
asciilifeform: cazalla: what of it
cazalla: ah maybe i am getting cached ver, someone elses ss http://i.imgur.com/wMScgY6.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/18ftliA )
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah, I saw boring google, bot lulzfest you screencapped
cazalla: not my screencap but i still see it
BingoBoingo: You know copyrastas got too much power when people want to price gouge antihelminthics http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2015/02/20/more_price_hikes_on_obscure_medication.php
assbot: More Price Hikes on Obscure Medication. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zyzbST )
asciilifeform: ^ 'intellectual property' in one paragraph.
asciilifeform: 'If Shkreli acquires Biltricide from Bayer, he plans to raise the price of the drug to $100,000 for a single-day course of treatment, according to people briefed on Turing's business plans. No other changes or improvements to the drug will be made by Turing. The extra revenue generated by Biltricide is expected to earn Turing a fast profit for its investors and help defray the cost of developing other, experimental drugs, sour
asciilifeform: ces said.'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Best part is people who generally need antihelminthics... generally could not afford "aspirin"
asciilifeform: target market is presumably wealthy usian tourists to the turd world
asciilifeform: who manage to get very, very lucky
BingoBoingo: lol
cazalla: what a fucking other fucker.. just chipped my front tooth after only having it fixed like a month ago
cazalla: mother fucker even
asciilifeform: i bet it costs less to have all the shareholders shot in the head
asciilifeform: than what the patients, collectively, might pay for the product.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Welcome to the wonderful world of ceramics
BingoBoingo finds it amazing that maximally empowered copyrastas would have te rest of humanity die by worms
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: the 100k fella didn't mention funding worm spread
asciilifeform: but it seems like logical next step.
asciilifeform: to maximize investor returns!
BingoBoingo: No need to fund worm spread. Spread well enough on their own
asciilifeform: whether 'on their own' is 'well enough' is for the shareholders to decide.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, black people sorta ruined gold teeth didn't they?
BingoBoingo: Only necessary ingredient is pricing drug out of veterinary practice
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Mercury amalgam is still a thing
cazalla: BingoBoingo, that'd still look like i had bling done
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
BingoBoingo: Aesthetics can only put up so much of a fight against engineering
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you at least understand the toolchain with which you grapple.
cazalla: i don't wanna live in a world where i have to bling up my front teeth just to eat a peach without chipping a tooth
asciilifeform: mercifully little there is of it
cazalla: i'd claim shoddy work but the crown this guy did, never had an issue
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You have to understand replacement material involve necessary compromise
asciilifeform: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/BelsenIncident.html << historical interest
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zyBplh )
cazalla: food needs to adjust to fit the way my teeth see the world BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: re: solzhenitsyn's axe theorem
asciilifeform: incidentally modern jailers learned from this and other historical lulz
asciilifeform: they do not wear sidearms inside the 'wire'.
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BingoBoingo: And yet USia's jailing class plagiarizes their German predecessors without attribution
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plagiarizes - lol. where in the world were the first modern gassings? not germany
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The gassing are not the plagiarism. The humane safety aspects are.
BingoBoingo: "No firearms in the zoo" was a very German reform
BingoBoingo: Oh, return of kink has a rough gem http://www.returnofkings.com/1977/france-is-in-big-trouble
assbot: France Is In Big Trouble ... ( http://bit.ly/1BaYujR )
asciilifeform: 'In all of the discussions, Höss is quite matter-of-fact and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would have occurred to him if somebody hadn’t asked him. There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse and even the prospect of hanging does not unduly stress him. One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually normal, but with
asciilifeform: the schizoid apathy, insensitivity and lack of empathy that could hardly be more extreme in a frank psychotic' << could be a description of virtually any
asciilifeform: any 'plum book' usg
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BingoBoingo: Related http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/22/thousands-of-inmates-to-be-transferred-after-unrest-at-texas-prison
assbot: Thousands of inmates to be transferred after unrest at Texas prison | US news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bb1hd3 )
BingoBoingo: "The inmates broke out of their housing structures and converged in the recreation yard, setting fire to several kevlar domes, or tents, that serve as prison housing, the paper said."
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'kevlar' isn't flammable per se...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Plenty flame-abru in practice
BingoBoingo: Hydrocarbon and flourocarbon polymers break down into their more flamable constituents
BingoBoingo wonders if maybe he should have watched the oscars if it inspired this much butthurt this year http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/02/23/oscars_best_picture_winner_birdman_boyhood_snub_is_the_academy_s_worst_mistake.html
assbot: Oscars best picture winner Birdman: Boyhood snub is the Academy’s worst mistake in 20 years. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AAy7Av )
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ben_vulpes: ahaha and then ruby ecosystem just falls over en masse without libreadline6-dev on the machine. no warnings at compile or until i go to actually run this hellspawn rails app
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know... sbcl is available nearly everywhere...
BingoBoingo: Why OpenBSD dev's hate FreeBSD devs https://twitter.com/MiodVallat/status/569753224179261440
assbot: /hashtag/Kamailio?src=hash and /hashtag/LibreSSL?src=hash does not play together. Problems with CRYPTO_set_mem_functions
BingoBoingo: !up sergiohlb
sergiohlb: thank you
BingoBoingo: yOU'RE WELCOME
mircea_popescu: unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along. << there's something fundamentally naive about one imagining he can extract useful work out of an assemblage of idiots.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that site with the idiotic "from around the web" "weird tricks" etc spam
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mircea_popescu: re "100k/dose" : praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth. everyone'll just use the indian version and that's that.
mircea_popescu: let us bezzle outbezzle itself to all fuck.
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Adlai: "praziquantel is a simple molecule easy to synth." << easiest way to get accurate info on the internet is to spew nonsense and wait to be corrected? :P
mircea_popescu: no ?
mircea_popescu: which part dja have trouble with ?
Adlai lets the professional chemists weigh in, this is outside his pay grade
mircea_popescu: it's about 50yo you know.
Adlai: that has zero relevance to ease of synthesis
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: what do you think happened in the past half century, chemistry got HARDER ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the jew thing : so ho got her man. rest of the "respectable" cunts, ineffectual as all "respectable" cunts.
mircea_popescu: nothing new under the sun.
cazalla: anyone else seen qntra as #2 on hackernews atm?
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: nice going bb.
cazalla: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=qntra.net&src=typd
assbot: qntra.net - Twitter Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1vrw16V )
ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9093147 << sure thing shill
assbot: But that's entirely because they have to comply with federal law, not because th... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vrw56L )
mircea_popescu: break a bad law rather than comply with it.
mircea_popescu: "have to" my foot.
mircea_popescu: "all the other guys were fucking her, I had to rape her a little too!!1 "
ben_vulpes: can't win for losing
mircea_popescu: the fucking shrem defense. "i'm not an asshole, i just had to behave like one. but my real me is still intact! i'm a narcissist, my actions don't describe me!"
ben_vulpes: shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima. play with the feds: get exiled. exile yourself from the us, wither on the vine of unprofitability.
ben_vulpes: makes me wonder what those of us desperately milking the bezzle of what drops it yields will be castigated with.
mircea_popescu: the choices that all suck
ben_vulpes: show me some that don't, eh?
ben_vulpes: it's war, there's no winning.
mircea_popescu: i'm only showing alf, he's got the ip on iot.
mircea_popescu: shutter your busines to play guitar and avoid feds risk: get exiled from la serenissima << who was this ?
ben_vulpes: you wrote about him at one point.
ben_vulpes: recently, i might add.
mircea_popescu: that narrows it down...
ben_vulpes: well i can't find it.
ben_vulpes: some bitcointalk.org person who shuttered their own operation preemptively.
mircea_popescu: you don't mean the gerald davis / death&taxes guy ?
ben_vulpes: wasn't he just wrong?
ben_vulpes: ah no
mircea_popescu: a year ago ?
ben_vulpes: i am simply low on brain and reading comprehension this evening.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit some dude shutters his business
ben_vulpes rereads the article in question
mircea_popescu: but if he comes back 18 months later as an expert witness on the shithead parade...
mircea_popescu: he's going to get asked a few hard questions. such as, "who the fuck is paying your bills."
ben_vulpes: i see, i see.
ben_vulpes: (little, late and only with others' light)
mircea_popescu: note that he's actually not answered it, either.
mircea_popescu: went in without a plan. rather typical of the entirely fucktarded level of these people lately.
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have foreseen we'd get asked questions..."
ben_vulpes: while i'm up and it's quiet, what is the point of this new 'license' of yours?
ben_vulpes: on the face of it (and granted, i'm tired and slow), it seems this license would only ever prevent folks from using anything so licensed.
ben_vulpes rereads *again*
ben_vulpes: is it one of those "virulent" licenses? that nominally made things into which their licensed source was rolled also "open" source?
mircea_popescu: it just makes it impossible for fiat businesses to use any of our software.
ben_vulpes: more software. just what the world needs.
mircea_popescu: it's just a logical gate is all.
mircea_popescu: only allows flow one way.
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mats: https://github.com/80vul/phpcodz/blob/master/research/pch-020.md rip ya ten year old workhorse
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punkman: asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing
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punkman: unbalanced: Did I see a bitbet.py somewhere in the past month or so? That sounded neat. << you can find my bitbet calculator/tracker here https://bitbucket.org/abfg/bitbet.py
assbot: abfg / bitbet.py — Bitbucket ... ( http://bit.ly/17Mq21a )
punkman: unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore << punkman occasionally does data-cleaning/dedupe/linkage/acquisition work for hire
punkman: BingoBoingo: cazalla: Once you need fillings in "working locations" the choices are metallic and durable or "natural" and the dentist's annuity << better dentist also helps. I have a couple front teeth chips with the "natural" fillings, never had to replace.
cazalla: punkman, i've had the left front tooth done about 10 years back, that one has lasted, right one around the same time but it got chipped months back, bit pissed off this one has chipped so early but i gnaw bones and shit too so who knows
fluffypony: cazalla: are you a dingo?
punkman: don't gnaw bones :P
cazalla: ya don't love a good bone?
punkman: asciilifeform: picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre
punkman: cazalla, sure had a nice lamb roast yesterday.
cazalla: hey me too
punkman: today is octopus day, also known as Clean Monday
cazalla: i wish we could get good seafood here, a lot of it is shipped in from interstate or worse
punkman: mediterranean is fucked too, we have to import a lot of ocean fish
mats: 5:44:43 <+punkman> asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing <<
mats: has really awful withdrawals
punkman: (also nothing to do with vaccine)
punkman: mats, is it any better than methadone?
mats: its safer, but folks sometimes develop suicidal ideation after a few months
mats: and from all reports it seems thats preferable to beating withdrawal
mats: http://nationalpainreport.com/suboxone-new-drug-epidemic-8821747.html
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BingoBoingo: <mats> 5:44:43 <+punkman> asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' << from what I've read on the internets, suboxone is not such a bad thing << Suboxone is not vaccine, merely partial agonist, does not trigger immune response
BingoBoingo: effect also lacks permanence
chetty: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-governments-stupid-tax-war-on-expatriates-2015-02-20?dist=beforebell
assbot: The U.S. government’s stupid tax war on expatriates - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1ABwdjh )
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punkman: " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions." ☟︎
punkman: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1502.2/04059.html
assbot: Linux-Kernel Archive: Linux 4.0-rc1 out.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AByNFS )
punkman: "Because the people have spoken, and while most of it was complete gibberish, numbers don't lie. People preferred 4.0, and 4.0 it shall be. Unless somebody can come up with a good argument against it."
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danielpbarron: height=220362 vs height=190061
chetty: <punkman> " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."// its very simply a new sort of 'wall'
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PeterL: asciilifeform: RE stuff made in Africa: some of my clothes are made in sub-saharan africa
BingoBoingo: lol, "should we really be blaming superfish?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9093691
assbot: even thgough im Palestinian and these guys are Israeli, should we really be blam... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1wfGUJD )
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mats: http://imgur.com/9otHhB7
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1vsfHD0 )
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/vEpz9Kz.gif
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mircea_popescu: "i am a white male" orly.
Adlai: 3rd ¶ reeks of lamarckism
mircea_popescu: ahaha young father, is 27.
mircea_popescu: what the shit.
mircea_popescu: ima use this thing as a teaching aid.
mircea_popescu: wait, wants to impregnate woman next month ?
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with people.
nubbins`: or 13 months from now
nubbins`: but by then he'll be 28
mircea_popescu: nono he doesn't want to wait a full year
mircea_popescu: besides by then dota 5 will be out
nubbins`: this TLP blog is fun to read but i feel like reading it makes me feel like i understand things better than i actually do
nubbins`: dota 5? /me cuts off dick, throws in trash
mircea_popescu: don't get drastic nubbins`
mircea_popescu: your dick can have middle lane.
nubbins`: better middle lane than middling pain
nubbins`: oh, here's one about women wearing makeup
nubbins` rubs hands together
mircea_popescu: you know back before the world went nuts, my mother was in the maternity ward about to deliver me, as a 22 yo college grad.
mircea_popescu: with her, a 17yo and a 18yo
mircea_popescu: doctor berated her for "waiting so long!"
nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less
nubbins`: "i'm taking a year to find myself"
nubbins`: "i'm doing __ for my gap year"
nubbins`: ^ why not just be honest to yourself ;/
mircea_popescu: ya srsly.
mircea_popescu: it was fucking shameful then to not have a degree by 22.
mircea_popescu: anyway, my dad was 23 (army). and nofcuking body thought this is young.
mircea_popescu: everyone thought this is werdly late, but fucken intellectuals, nutty.
nubbins`: i'm not sure what romania was like in the late 70s but i feel like the average age of post-secondary graduation directly correlates to how soft things are in that place
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> cuz you liked teh woman, foo. << i see this coming
mircea_popescu: nubbins` let me put it this way : romania had mandatory universal male draft.
mircea_popescu: 9 months IF you went to college. 15 otherwise.
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: a lot can happen in 6 months in the armed forces
nubbins`: second-best korea still has this, btw
mircea_popescu: like what, derpy dude gets weaned ?
nubbins`: i think it's two years tho
mircea_popescu: many countries still do, esp in the east of russia.
nubbins`: upside of this is that every korean male, at least ostensibly, earned a blackbelt in taekwondo
mircea_popescu: i don't believe it's a bad idea. if shiva tasked me with fixing west, it's one of the first things i'd do.
nubbins`: but, y'know. "earned".
mircea_popescu: fail that, castration.
nubbins`: a universal draft would fix the west?
nubbins`: wait, no, i see it
nubbins`: wasn't looking ahead far enough 8)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` 9 months with gunnery sargeant hartman, on the understanding that if you fail you get your balls chopped off and spend the rest of your life = the next few years chained to a wall in a brothel for arab fags.
nubbins`: see, thing is
mircea_popescu: meanwhile teh girls can learn useful lyf skills. http://33.media.tumblr.com/66bf2bc1ffec28419c2963ad2ff6f001/tumblr_ngxp86d8to1rdc5oto1_400.gif
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nubbins`: once everyone's in the military, they gotta /do something/ with all these soldiers!
mircea_popescu: paint rocks.
nubbins`: too passive
danielpbarron: have you played dota or just heard of it?
nubbins`: i think it's a video game
mircea_popescu: romania had universal draft for a century, never started a war.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i just heard of it.
nubbins`: romania was a different brand of retarded
nubbins`: you think if the american military suddenly is awash in bodies, they won't start sending them places for the sake of doing it?
mircea_popescu: but i think it's the one derived from old warcraft 2, except you get a single hero and no "resources" per se, get wood/gold to level them by killing npcs
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i'd be running things, not fucking dod.
Adlai: "paint rocks." << there's this idf saying: "if it moves, salute it; if it doesn't, pick it up; if you can't, paint it"
nubbins`: wood? sounds like die siedler von catan
mircea_popescu: i'd have them handpicking cotton if it comes to it.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i meant "resources" as in warcraft2. whatever, vespene gas and the othe rone
mircea_popescu: i think in dota it's "gold" and "experience"
nubbins` shrugs helplessly
danielpbarron: pretty much, except it was warcraft3 (some might say it started in starcraft as Aeon of Strife)
mircea_popescu: Adlai sounds bout right.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu you most certainly wouldn't. you'd have them fighting overseas!
mircea_popescu: no i wouldn't.
nubbins`: i'm talking about the "you" that doesn't exist, but in this alternate world where you'd be ostensibly an american in charge of american troops
mircea_popescu: the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local ☟︎
nubbins`: o look
mircea_popescu: either do it right or don't do it.
mike_c: machiavelli would say that obama should go live there awhile.
mircea_popescu: hey, i wouldn't have any problem living with these dudes.
mircea_popescu: it's the New Whiner York that i don't care for.
asciilifeform: traditional ru draft << plenty of derppathologies there despite the mega-curative 1yr painting grass green
mike_c: he said when you conquer, the prince has got to go live there to make the locals happy. and it sounds right to me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: imagine, you sign up for the military, you get the guarantee that you'll be pushing shit uphill for a coupla decades, then when you're fortysomething you get a farm and an ethnic bride.
mike_c: worked for rome
asciilifeform: civis romanus sum!
mircea_popescu: "army'll make men out of you. dead or alive - that's up to you."
mircea_popescu: new slogan.
mircea_popescu: none of this "army of one" narcisiac bs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that one was actually cancelled
mircea_popescu: not FPS enough ?
mircea_popescu: is it "army of just you" now ?
asciilifeform: iirc the last one i saw was 'be all you can be'
mike_c: be all you can be was before army of one as far as i remember
asciilifeform: then dunno
mike_c: "army strong" is current
mircea_popescu: aww, they missed out on the obvious neuroticism ? "be all you can be. and more." ???
mike_c: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slogans_of_the_United_States_Army
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mircea_popescu: mike_c apparently reading comprehension on the downtrend huh ?
mircea_popescu: maybe next is "Nice. Good."
mike_c: army gud 4 u
mircea_popescu: gud4u, gud4me!
nubbins`: i thought boston was strong
nubbins`: the army is too?
mircea_popescu: boston took over.
nubbins` counts bombs
nubbins`: hmmm
mircea_popescu: they're not even allowing those wisconsin and indiana poofters in.
asciilifeform: i occasionally dig into vintage u.s. newspapers, magazines. interestingly, army ads from the '50s-'60s dwell on the 'sharp look' of the uniform.
asciilifeform: 'be sharp, look sharp'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, that was calculated. what happened in 1945-49 ?
nubbins`: ^ my dad was married in his (canadian) coast guard uniform
mircea_popescu: all the kids that were 10 then musta noticed the flurry of panties
mircea_popescu: so... gotta sell it.
nubbins`: sure
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what's that like, elk horn hat, maple syrup pants ?
nubbins`: heh.
asciilifeform: it's almost a wonder that 18th c. 'gussar' uniforms didn't make a comeback
asciilifeform: complete with hat
nubbins`: double-button jacket w/ gold trim on the cuffs
nubbins`: epaulettes too, i guess
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, you could make some pretty epic uniforms for the drone flying division
mircea_popescu: they're indoors anyway
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: precisely
asciilifeform: they really ought to wear their napoleonic best
nubbins`: well, looking like a slob was a lot less acceptable in the 50s-60s too
nubbins`: it's almost expected now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform traditional ru draft << plenty of derppathologies << yes. but they're pathologies rather than the fucking core.
asciilifeform: when i worked for (not in, must note) u.s. army, the thing that always got me was the pixellation on their camos
thestringpuller: nubbins`: 22yo college grad, now there's a thing you see less and less << took me 7 years to get through GATech. Failed Calculus like 9 times.
asciilifeform: everyone looked like the weakest monster from 'doom'
mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! you can only target particular proteins, which coke is not.
asciilifeform: also the notion of deploying immune reaction against small molecule...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mooks lol
asciilifeform: srsly pixels
mircea_popescu: cheaper.
asciilifeform: big enough to see from musketry range
asciilifeform: i caught myself wondering if it was designed in 'ms paint'
mircea_popescu: how often would you say an us army / marine / etc fights within visual range of anything that'd even remotely qualify as an enemy ?
PeterL: creating immune response to small molecules would be hard to controll, you would just end up allergic to everything
mircea_popescu: such as i dunno, a bush an enemy pissed on sometime this week
mircea_popescu: PeterL fortunately body's smarter than you, won't take.
asciilifeform read up on the cocaine vaccine thing. will note that even if it works as claimed (no blood-brain barrier penetration) - the net effect, if everybody were injected, is simply to multiply the standard dose of coke for man by 1.5x or so
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2015#1030406 << look at that, marketwatch is reading last year's b-a logs ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 13:00:01; punkman: " the numbers renouncing U.S. citizenship jumped 14% to a new record last year. While the official number is “only” 3,400, that number is apparently understated, and surveys suggest the number who may follow suit is in the millions."
mircea_popescu: "So far, the arguments against it seem to have been "major numebr
mircea_popescu: should go with a major new feature or breaking of compatibility",
mircea_popescu: which just shows how little people know. We don't break compatibility,
mircea_popescu: and we haven't done feature-based releases since basically forever."
mircea_popescu: gotta love torvalds lol
nubbins`: asciilifeform so the cocaine sold in usa would now have to be 30-40% pure instead of 20%?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: aha
nubbins`: that's gonna hit the glucosamine suppliers where it hurts.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the coke 'barons' would be the first to push for 'vaccine' if it had any threat of working
nubbins`: (phun phact, gym rats like coke and weighlifting supplements are invariably white powders)
mircea_popescu: i guess i will annoy everyone if i say i'm not particularly fond of coke ?
asciilifeform hasn't used it, cannot say if fond or not
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is the point of living in wash dc
mircea_popescu: srsly now.
nubbins`: also have never tried coke
nubbins`: i like things way too much to justify trying it
nubbins`: besides, i definitely do not want to snort weightlifting supplements
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can confuse cocaine with anything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think he're referring to the dilutants
mircea_popescu: so buy it clean cut it with sugar.
asciilifeform: iirc this is not usually possible in small quantity
asciilifeform: sorta like asking to have -one- aluminum cd pressed.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. they won't tell you this, but a good half of the captured stuff - on the street - is actually pure.
nubbins`: "so buy it clean" o.O
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: captured from dealers
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: "dealers" doesn't mean what it used to mean 30 years ago.
asciilifeform: it is, as i understand, a severe taboo among them, to sell it undiluted
mircea_popescu: people are so fucking poor now a bag qualifies you as a wholesaler.
nubbins`: someone who isn't me has witnessed dealers receive new shipment, open bag, set several spoonfuls aside for sef, then dump 8-10 tbsp of random white in there
nubbins`: *self
nubbins`: if pure cocaine was sold here, people would overdose
mircea_popescu: nubbins` pure is the safest by far.
asciilifeform: i suppose if you have any schooling whatsoever, you can recrystallize it if you want
mircea_popescu: otherwise you accidentally hit a 50% as if it were a 20% and bam
nubbins`: asciilifeform you don't need schooling to make crack
nubbins`: mircea_popescu pure being the only thing around is safest, sure.
nubbins`: but dealers care less about safe and more about $$
asciilifeform: recrystallize != use it as crystal
asciilifeform: necessarily
nubbins`: do you think that guy even googled "can you snort glucosamine" before cutting his stash?
nubbins`: because i know for a fact that he didn't
mircea_popescu: actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag and dumb ho hitting it as if it were the stuff she normally gets in clubs
nubbins`: mircea_popescu that was actually a bag of white heroin :D
nubbins`: that the girl snorted as coke
mircea_popescu: o it was ?
nubbins`: ya
mircea_popescu: yeah right, cause he was shooting it up yeah
nubbins`: hence her heart stopping, 3 stabs to chest, etc
mircea_popescu: right
nubbins`: ("no! you only stab her once!")
mircea_popescu: that was so fucking stupiod.
nubbins`: but for srs, people have heart attacks on coke all the time
mircea_popescu: what was that needle made out of, neutronium ?
nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intracardiac_injection
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asciilifeform: nubbins`: folks also have heart attacks in exercise, in the shitter, while shovelling dirt, etc.
nubbins`: asciilifeform: now imagine today's exercise/shit/dirt pile is at 100% (or even 80%) strength instead of 20%
nubbins`: but it looks the same
asciilifeform: nubbins`: well yes
nubbins`: :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow.
nubbins`: this is why the purity of coke will not rise
mircea_popescu: goes back inside, warmth, poof.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: opiate users typically od, paradoxically, after successfully quitting and then doing a bit again 'for old time's sake'
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mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: but that's heroin.
nubbins`: asciilifeform some of my favourite musicians died this way
asciilifeform: they take their customary dose, having lost the tolerance
nubbins`: bradley nowell, 1996, 7 days after marriage
asciilifeform: aha this is specific to opium
asciilifeform: e.g, death of vysotsky
thestringpuller: $bids mpoe
thestringpuller: ah
nubbins`: opiate users can reach terrifically high levels of tolerance
nubbins`: to the point where a dose lethal in another man will maybe stop their headache.
asciilifeform: lethal in elephant
nubbins` pulls out remaining stops
nubbins`: lethal in elephant!
nubbins`: anyway, worth noting that most recording musicians who tried heroin produced some of their best work while in the depths
mircea_popescu: anyway, clean gets you rid of all the stupid shit, anti worm medicine, drywall, w/e the fuck
nubbins`: ^
nubbins`: reminds me of the time SWIM bought some adulterated marijuana
nubbins`: (not kidding)
asciilifeform: i've always wondered why american dope aficionados don't follow the 1980s soviet example and all switch to making (or at least refining) what they use personally
nubbins`: y'know how good dope has that covered-in-crystal look from all the resin-y trichomes?
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which... everyone i suppose is familiar with the otherworldly beauty of potassium permanganate ?
asciilifeform: (the first popular dope in ussr was what is today called meth, but there was no market in the usual sense. folks who took it, usually made it)
nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got as better question for you. why do us dumb broads not switch to cooking at home ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, its a recession" "learned how to cook yet ?" "wut?!?!?!"
nubbins`: asciilifeform lack of skill.
nubbins`: asciilifeform:
nubbins`: ;;google krokodil
gribble: Krokodil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krokodil>; Krokodil (Desomorphine) Drug: Effects, Abuse & Warnings - Drugs ...: <http://www.drugs.com/illicit/krokodil.html>; The World's Deadliest Drug: Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse | TIME: <http://time.com/3398086/the-worlds-deadliest-drug-inside-a-krokodil-cookhouse/>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no idea. the woman - cooks
nubbins`: that's what they're cooking at home these days
mircea_popescu: yeah but you two aren't really people. you're in here.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: when opiates took off, the approach failed
nubbins`: no krokodil here, too many prescription opiates to abuse
nubbins`: until they took oxycontin off the market
nubbins`: and all the addicts just vanished
asciilifeform: not because harder to synthesize, but because not a performance-enhancer that sets one going strong in the kitchen thinking of new methods
nubbins`: OH WAIT THEY DIDN'T
mircea_popescu: is this krokodil thing actually as widely used as teh "horrors in russia" ussa press makes it sound /
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: opiates are definitely not a production-enhancer
nubbins`: mircea_popescu seems like meth in the usa -- cheap, so poor destitute people in poor destitute towns love it
nubbins`: there's a short Vice documentary on it, if you can stand to watch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.'
nubbins`: ;;google vice krokodil
gribble: Siberia: Krokodil Tears | VICE | United States: <http://www.vice.com/video/siberia-krokodil-tears-full-length>; Siberia: Krokodil Tears | VICE | United States: <http://www.vice.com/video/siberia-krokodil-tears-part-1>; Krokodil: Russia's Deadliest Drug (NSFW) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUH8llvTZo>
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah i totally want to hear what vice has to say o.O
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: thye show people cooking it!
asciilifeform: fact is, every modern product 'for the poor' is a kind of krokodil
nubbins`: "now we add the eye drops" "why?" "makes it stronger"
nubbins`: ...
nubbins`: "now we collapse a major vein in our arms"
mircea_popescu: "why ? "
mircea_popescu: "makes it stronger"
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: anyway, as actually derpy as everything Vice produces is
asciilifeform: 'stronger', if means anything, probably meant 'burns more when injected'
nubbins`: the krokodil doc is gross enough to distract from it
nubbins`: asciilifeform definitely was not an ingredient in the reaction they were trying to make occur.
nubbins`: something along the lines of the "chili powder" meth in breaking bad
mircea_popescu: "So what the hell do we buy now? HP's quality has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig, Lenovo is doing their best to destroy the Thinkpad brand, Asus is incapable of making a device without at least one fatal flaw... is Apple the only one making laptops that aren't garbage anymroe?"
mircea_popescu: methinks the consumer has a legitimate question
nubbins`: except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream
mircea_popescu: "what should i get for this weekend, meth or krok ?!~?!?!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to which there is no answer
mircea_popescu: not for him anyway.
asciilifeform: or rather, the answer from the film 'war games'
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream << Sometimes actually used in this manner
asciilifeform: 'the only winning move is: not to play'
nubbins`: BingoBoingo :0 i guess the chili powder will work about as well as the eyedrops, then
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
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asciilifeform: the basic concept, as PeterL (chemist?) will attest, is that a synthesis doesn't necessarily (and most often) produce only one thing. each step will result in one or more unwanted substances, including everything that failed to react in previous steps
asciilifeform: some of the costliest operations in traditional pharma industry are recrystallizations/purifications
asciilifeform: hence for every type of -synthetic- (vs. refined from vegetation) dope, there is at least one 'krokodilian' variant where the folks making it didn't see it fit to bother with this detail.
chetty: and todays propaganda prize goes to: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/revealed-the-countries-with-the-best-and-worst-diets-in-the-world-10057363.html
assbot: Revealed: the countries with the best and worst diets in the world - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1AnH69o )
asciilifeform: (anybody else here take o-chem in school... other than PeterL and i)
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BingoBoingo: Took a semester of o-chem in highschool
nubbins`: asciilifeform when i was in colombia, there was a byproduct called "bazouk" or similar
nubbins`: made from leavings of the coca process
asciilifeform: aha refinement waste, yes, also exists
nubbins`: colombia 7/10 would not revisit
PeterL: sometimes for o-chem reaction a 40% yield is a good day
asciilifeform: and not only for dope. in usa restaurants have been selling 'fashionable' multi-grain bread. which i fully expect is made from shavings of cutting other kinds of bread at the bakeries
BingoBoingo: chetty: Mega lol, Africa wins nutrition
nubbins`: heh.
asciilifeform: PeterL: 40% is a dream for 'cellar chemists'
nubbins`: betcha they use white flour with a handful of other grains mixed in
asciilifeform: who lack Pd/Pt catalysts, high-pressure vessels, even a proper vacuum
asciilifeform: and hence are more or less stuck with 1840s state of the art
nubbins` adds wheat germ, crushed flax, hempseed, rolled oats to bread
nubbins`: and it costs 20% of what store-bought devitaminized bread does!
PeterL: on some multi-step reactions, think 50% yield 4 times, and you are lucky to have 6% of what you started with
asciilifeform: aha
PeterL: alot of what I was doing the past 3 years involved trying to get %yields higher
asciilifeform: and the remaining filling in the flask, hasn't gone anywhere, but has to be removed somehow.
asciilifeform: this is what the clandestine chemists don't always bother with.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (anybody else here take o-chem in school << originally, 9yo me despised ochem, because no great flames like sulphur | potassium chloride etc.
mircea_popescu: then me discovered nitropaper.
mircea_popescu: chetty so who has best diet ? japan ?
mircea_popescu: "Regarding the VCs, I would give them the benefit of the doubt as well. What where they pitched?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The list is all African countries.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, why does everyone want to indemnify the vcs ? they're absolutely the only guilty party in all this.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i have elementary knowledge of O-Chem. I love dat ATP Synthase (but who doesn't?)
BingoBoingo: The countries with the healthiest diets overall were: 1. Chad 2. Sierra Leone 3. Mali 4. Gambia 5. Uganda 6. Ghana 7. Ivory Coast 8. Senegal 9. Israel 10. Somalia
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo.
mircea_popescu: what was this based on, "Fewest fat fucks" ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly
mircea_popescu: "The most reliable street test in my opinion is actually the smell of cocaine, as it has a very distinct aroma that none of the additives possess. Unfortunately, for reference, this requires you to have smelt a lot of different cocaine of certain purities, and very few people have had that opportunity. Personally, I think I could estimate cocaine purity from its scent and from looking at and tasting a few milligrams, b
mircea_popescu: ut I’ve also handled quite a lot of different batches with known purities."
mircea_popescu: heh. known since forever.
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mircea_popescu: and in the daily wtf : http://38.media.tumblr.com/7c2d7566582a69867da0b68c13787462/tumblr_ngsc6rN6OV1ty4fj6o1_500.gif
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danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag << pulp fiction doesn't "revolve around" anything -- kinda the point
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow. << LOL i just did such a thing / felt like i was gonna have a heart attack :/
mircea_popescu: it's dangerous. cool temperatures favor clot formation
BingoBoingo: !up cjc
cjc: BingoBoingo, thanks for the !up
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thestringpuller: danielpbarron: re Pulp Fiction << revolves around that suitcase mainly, cept for "interlude of chick OD'ing"
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i still have nightmares about that butt rape scene.
thestringpuller: "Are you okay?" "Nah man." "I'm pretty fucking far from okay."
danielpbarron: Mr. About-to-spend-the-rest-of-his-short-life-in-agonizing-pain
danielpbarron: i wouldn't say it revolves around the suitcase
danielpbarron: the suitcase doesn't have much to do with the fixed boxing match
danielpbarron: i suppose all the different plots relate to marcellus wallace
thestringpuller: yea that interlude is only connected after jules retires and delivers the suitcase
danielpbarron: (the guy who gets butt raped)
thestringpuller: Yea I mean Wallace gets butt raped after he retrieves the suitcase. If that has any significance...I dunno
thestringpuller: "does he look like a bitch", well zed fucked him like one. Zed's dead, but you know...
danielpbarron: hah
cjc: There is fixation with ass there... the story of the watch is another one.
thestringpuller: oh christopher walken
thestringpuller: you guise are making me miss the 90's
mircea_popescu: yeah, pulp fiction revolves around tarantino's latent homosexuality.
cjc: One of the problems with the 90s was... when I bought Pulp Fiction as the first DVD I purchased ever... it was in letterbox format.
cjc: I had to wait several more years for it to be in high-def on home video.
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought the principle was to trigger immune response against cocaine molecule, not reward centre <<< you don't understand how immune works! << nuh uh I went to school and even paid attention sometimes!
mircea_popescu: well can you name any tropane alkaloid that has an immune response associated ?
punkman: nope
mircea_popescu: by far the vast majority of immune response is to proteins. the difference is about two degrees of magnitude in molecular weight.
mircea_popescu: some immune response is to an assortment of polysaccharids etc, but still.
punkman: (one of the cocaine vaccines uses big cholera protein to deliver cocaine molecule)
mircea_popescu: http://protcalc.sourceforge.net/ << this is pretty neat too.
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mircea_popescu: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3738214/ this one ?
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punkman: nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline... << if only the retards came up with saline. I've read about some assholes using spray with glass beads (the kind used to make shiny road paint) that would penetrate the flowers.
mircea_popescu: "Since cocaine must dissociate from antibody before it can be metabolized, either in plasma or liver, such results seem surprising. " I'm willing to bet they misread the data, dun actually have a response at all, but hey.
BingoBoingo: !up hollywoodundead
hollywoodundead: thank you
punkman: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/hacking-burning-man-tickets/ "I need to have a ticket to go camping in the desert"
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pete_dushenski: "The Pirate Bay is bringing back moderators to delete spam accounts and fake Torrents" << agents finding new day jobs ?
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.00018 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1123/ Odds: 100(Y):0(N) by coin, 100(Y):0(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.00018 BTC. Current weight: 99,997.
punkman: pete_dushenski: what would that get them?
pete_dushenski: plant broken seeds, remove functional ones
pete_dushenski: malware, spyware, etc.
[]bot: Bet created: "10% or greater incremental difficulty increase before June" http://bitbet.us/bet/1124/
[]bot: Bet placed: 2.01644788 BTC for No on "10% or greater incremental difficulty increase before June" http://bitbet.us/bet/1124/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.11644788 BTC. Current weight: 99,991.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87785 @ 0.00041664 = 36.5747 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: "Areva, the French nuclear technology giant, warned on Monday that it was facing a loss of a magnitude that raises doubts about its ability to continue operations without an injection of state funds to restore its capital. The state-controlled company expects a 2014 net loss of about 4.9 billion euros, or $5.6 billion, from a loss of €500 million a year earlier." << blame the japs!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00041988 = 3.8629 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: though nuclear must be one hell of a tough industry
mircea_popescu: actually it's cheap romanian electricity.
mircea_popescu: eu market got integrated, lot of excess capacity in the east, there it goes.
mircea_popescu: putin is hurting the west with cheap energy about 10x more than whatever "sanctions"
pete_dushenski: is romanian leccy natural gas ?
mircea_popescu: a good chunk is actually nuclear
mircea_popescu: (france supported ro bid to eu chiefly because they needed ro heavy water).
mircea_popescu: but plenty hydrocarbons.
pete_dushenski: my foggy memory of the romanian countryside is now clearning up..
pete_dushenski: i do recall seeing a few nuclear plants now
pete_dushenski: french design, neh ?
mircea_popescu: candu
mircea_popescu: http://www.transelectrica.ro/widget/web/tel/sen-harta/-/harta_WAR_SENOperareHartaportlet << this is actually trhe current data
assbot: Harta ... ( http://bit.ly/18g8WtQ )
mircea_popescu: currently exporting 1gw
pete_dushenski: lol actually, ro used candu (canadian)
mircea_popescu: (a lot more in summer due to hydro and less hydrocarbon usage for heating)
pete_dushenski: at least at Cernavodă
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> candu ^^
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu yup! my bad!
pete_dushenski: you're too fast for me
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo
ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/02/wapo-BillCaseyHoneyPot.htm << mega-trololol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << in which we find most hn readers are pakistani ?
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsOj4H )
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, ^^
mircea_popescu: Would you like a MIRRORED COPY OF YOUR OWN DATABASE? FROM THAT ERA? WE HAVE IT DO YOU?
mircea_popescu: lol. they don't, obv.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: One of the lizards got drunk on the interent?
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: lizardEliza
pete_dushenski: "DOJ - Do you have ANY IDEA - WHAT IS ON THAT TAPE ? DO YOU ? UNITED STATES ENDS ON 1 SINGLE 3/4 INCH TAPE. ENTIRE SOVEREIGN CURRENCY ENDS
pete_dushenski: "
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: lolk
pete_dushenski: "United States Department of State has YET TO FEEL THE WRATH OF THE LLAMACOIN "
pete_dushenski: this guy's too good
pete_dushenski: maybe he's on reddit
mircea_popescu: maybe he's on lice powder.
ascii_field: let's play however.
ascii_field: imagine actual 3/4 inch tape
ascii_field: therefore almost certainly, a 'u-matic'
mircea_popescu: do i need to quote at you ?
ascii_field: yes
mircea_popescu: "That's what it is. There's no such thing as "an idea", for damn sure."
mircea_popescu: that tape, it's nothing but a fetish of "an idea".
ascii_field: well sure
mircea_popescu: "You can't have an idea. It's not a thing, not something to "have". It's not like a chocolate cake, you get your hands on it that's that, it's yours."
mircea_popescu: "oh what if i make it a chocolate tape then!!1"
mircea_popescu: not how this works.
ascii_field: trying to reverse-engineer the theatrical props here
ascii_field: to see in what kind of studio the production was filmed.
ascii_field: of the fantasy.
mircea_popescu: you mean the commenter's ?
ascii_field: aha
mircea_popescu: he sounds like run of the mill overstimulated geek to me.
ascii_field: usually there are obvious technical gaffes
ascii_field: in these
mircea_popescu: all the way down to "imagine all the people derping in harmonee"
ascii_field connoisseur
mircea_popescu: you mean ascii field_connoisseur ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yes but that's normal acid trip not technical gaffe
ascii_field: separate the two
mircea_popescu: aite.
pete_dushenski: "Monsanto said Wednesday its earnings fell 34% in its first fiscal quarter" << fucken derps following cisco to the grave. such paper signers.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field so anything good ?
ascii_field: it's short enough, just read it
ascii_field: good lulz
mircea_popescu: i skimmed. was curious more in the method of separating the two, if meaningfully applicable.
ascii_field: ELL ME - TELL ME - / TELL ME - TELL ME - TORN - MORNING / E4A966FF04DD296A41F5AAD497C64494 / THAT KEY should SCARE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF CIA / GO AHEAD - PUSH IT
mircea_popescu: ;;google E4A966FF04DD296A41F5AAD497C64494
gribble: No matches found.
ascii_field: 128b.
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xE4A966FF04DD296A41F5AAD497C64494
mircea_popescu: v3 srsly ?
ascii_field: iirc there was once support for 128b md5 fp
mircea_popescu: yeh. while ago.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7729 @ 0.00041953 = 3.2425 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: and which loftus ?
ascii_field: pediwikia's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Loftus_(author) ?
assbot: John Loftus (author) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/18gazrD )
mircea_popescu: imo this is pointless wankery.
ascii_field: not if we spoodge
BingoBoingo: !b 8 ✂︎
assbot: Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1H76FXN.txt )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/03/economy_where_we_go_from_here.html << tlp's sufferances as an amateur financier on an etrade account, and his efforts to cope and come to terms with it is a whole opera in and of itself.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Economy: Where We Go From Here ... ( http://bit.ly/18gaLqJ )
ascii_field: the clock ad on that site is hilarious
mircea_popescu: funny how the otherwise very competent psych does not feel comfortable taking off the coat and hat, and waddling in the mud modestly like http://38.media.tumblr.com/7c2d7566582a69867da0b68c13787462/tumblr_ngsc6rN6OV1ty4fj6o1_500.gif any amateur.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeJUWm )
ascii_field: it's 1500 again and clocks have one hand ?
mircea_popescu: it has ads ?
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Oh reddit disappeared, but didn't really delete a qntra link... again
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2wve7e/the_superfish_funder_list/
assbot: The Superfish Funder List : programming ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeLDuA )
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: No longer visible on pages
mircea_popescu: programming, this time. clearly it's happening without the subreddit mod's knowledge, there's no overlap about bitcoin tards and programmers.
mircea_popescu: mind leaving a link to log on article discussing this for future ?
ascii_field: '...the Venture Capital Firms which made Superfish possible...' << lol! amerika where even spamware tr0j4n needs vc investment
ascii_field: can i get vc funding to sp4m l1k3 4 pr0? plz?
mircea_popescu: you gotta eat a lot of conference salty biscuit first.
ascii_field: very salty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00041988 = 2.8132 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/the-superfish-funder-list/#comment-11390
assbot: The Superfish Funder List | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeN509 )
ascii_field: bukkakiscuit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16051 @ 0.0004202 = 6.7446 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i meant http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/ and http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/
assbot: "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeNkIB )
assbot: It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeNkYW )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2wve7e/the_superfish_funder_list/coup87o
assbot: ButterNubber comments on The Superfish Funder List ... ( http://bit.ly/18gcaO0 )
ascii_field: 'cryptome' under extra-thick ddos today...
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Noticed that a few hours ago
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i meant the other way :D
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, now I'm more confused than ever
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: i just want a functional reference point tree for when this topic is discussed in future. currently, my go-to link for "reddit manipulation" is either the trilema or the qntrea article. it's beneficial if they somewhere (like in comments) have a link to a later case they didn't substantially cover
ascii_field: at 'hackernews' hand-twiddling the story ratings and outright burial ordered from above has been sop since day one. but the reddit cesspool has generally been left alone (other than by armies of muppets, electric and meat alike) until recently.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 344843 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43058313524.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.76719
ascii_field: re: sata on netbsd: i get same effect (garbage read for drive manuf. name and lba max params on init) if plugging in sata drive on original uboot console
ascii_field: (in uboot shell)
ascii_field: there's some magic init trick
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: danke BingoBoingo!
ascii_field: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/FS_88F6180_9x_6281_OpenSource.pdf << does not provide a smash-your-face-obvious clue re: above
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/18gdAbr )
ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm) ☟︎
ascii_field: the original marvell-patched kernel mod is mega-gnarly
ascii_field: (the one on pogo's www)
BingoBoingo: !up jdkll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31185 @ 0.00042051 = 13.1136 BTC [+] {2}
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/us-political-crisis-may-impoverish-homeland-security-department/
ascii_field: The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really
ascii_field: the whole 'shutdown' circus is wholly for show.
jurov: http://zitseng.com/archives/7489
assbot: The Mac Facilitates Spying Too | Zit Seng's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/17rt2Ak )
jurov: apple is such a whore with 214 root certs preinstalled?
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: But in fiat land with monthly bill payments, even a delay can be catastrophic to the stooge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00041893 = 4.1893 BTC [-]
ascii_field: jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans
NewLiberty: 'Jeh C. Johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, said that it was “indulging in a fantasy to believe you can shut down the Department of Homeland Security and there be no impact to homeland security itself.”' Sure it might become more secure when the security theater show ends and people start taking personal responsibility.
ascii_field: deniability? sure, 'umm sorry taiwanese factory, umm, lost, signing key' a la stuxnet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00042123 = 6.5501 BTC [+]
jurov: cryptome is down.. are we the new slashdot?
BingoBoingo: literal butthurt http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--05KKQCHQ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wjqk8l4uyrlvvu5c8svh.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1a6PvEo )
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: !up wayne
BingoBoingo: Hello wayne
wayne: thanks for the +v
wayne: hi
mircea_popescu: ello
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really << check it out, usg trying to steal b-a.
ascii_field: they still get paid
ascii_field: (but no interest on late wages, iirc)
mircea_popescu: yaya.
ascii_field: and they don't clock in 'for the motherland' but to keep the job
wayne: what is this channel for? general btc discussion? the website is a big ambiguous.
wayne: bit, rather
mircea_popescu: this is where bitcoin policy is set.
mircea_popescu: generally you are expected to read the logs for the next year to get acclimated.
wayne: hey joecool
felipelalli: wayne: the rule here is: read the full log and back next year. We'll wait.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22448 @ 0.00041923 = 9.4109 BTC [-]
felipelalli: (PS: I'm still reading)
chetty: don't worry if you miss a day, someone will point it out (happens to me all the time)
wayne: so everyone starts reading from april 26th?
ben_vulpes: sometimes april 1st
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11036 @ 0.00041893 = 4.6233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6864 @ 0.00041892 = 2.8755 BTC [-]
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/so-im-going-to-be-a-total-asshole-for-a-moment-here/
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, anyone still remember the elizabeth smart thing ? "kidnapped" 14yo utah blondie goes to party with "kidnappers" etc ?
mircea_popescu: apud Ballas : "I know, I know, she's only 15-- terrified, Stockholm Syndrome, etc. And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her, I didn't live her life. Though that brings us back to the black teen: why is fear an acceptable explanation for poor judgment, but anger is not? (Hint: they're both not.)"
mircea_popescu: in point of fact you can readily distinguish the male dominated society from the female dominated society, because they each succumb to their own foibles.
mircea_popescu: in dudeland anger is accepted explanation, fear is not. in broadland, the reverse.
mircea_popescu: yes, they're both not. hasn't yet happened on god's green earth tho.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo!
mircea_popescu: wayne well not everyone joins at the same time.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://38.media.tumblr.com/d79ced52386260419f282a6cbea59cc0/tumblr_n5oxc1uPJp1trwqu4o1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1B63dSs )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9086 @ 0.00041892 = 3.8063 BTC [-]
punkman: wayne, good day to start is when voice requirement was introduced
punkman: also the search engine is great for finding interesting threads from the past
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14914 @ 0.00041431 = 6.179 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18415 @ 0.00040134 = 7.3907 BTC [-]
chetty: And I have no right to judge her (in)actions since I am not her// the root of much evil in this world
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: i also have no right to calculate sun's orbit, as i'm no sun.
ascii_field: !b 3 ✂︎
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GT5FC4.txt )
mircea_popescu: this is techniucally correct, i have NO RIGHT. nor do i wish to have such a right, fuck rights with a solder rifle.
mircea_popescu: i have the fucking freedom to do it, and im dying with it.
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty thestringpuller!
thestringpuller: !up wayne
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.00040134 = 1.0375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3015 @ 0.00039851 = 1.2015 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0004136 = 1.9853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00041923 = 4.8002 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00039851 = 4.4434 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up Jezzz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15335 @ 0.00039851 = 6.1112 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20581 @ 0.00039845 = 8.2005 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up plonky
plonky: thank BingoBoingo
plonky: just created new gpg keypair
plonky: and registered to gribble
plonky: im hegemoOn
mike_c: mircea_popescu: re your asshole post. I believe GOOG split in the meantime..
plonky: but anyway new nickname, as far as i lost my previous gpg key associated with hegemoOn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14667 @ 0.00041186 = 6.0408 BTC [+] {3}
danielpbarron: !gettrust plonky
assbot: plonky is not registered in WoT.
plonky: i just ;;eauth
danielpbarron shrugs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8783 @ 0.00042149 = 3.7019 BTC [+] {3}
plonky: 22:50:10 gribble | You are now authenticated for user plonky with key BACBCE400996EB88
danielpbarron: plonky, which bot responded to me when I typed '!gettrust' ?
plonky: assbot
plonky: !
danielpbarron: athereyougo
plonky: !help
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
plonky: seems the fingerprint of my key isnt satisfying assbot
mircea_popescu: mike_c hm, i remember them wanting to for years but then they got sued not to
mircea_popescu: never heard that being ruled on so i just asumed they dropped it.
mats: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/leaks-netanyahu-misled-iran-nuclear-programme-guardian-iran-nuclear-speech-2012-150218165622065.html
assbot: Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran nuclear programme - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/17P0BMv )
mats: that pic lol.
mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live.
mircea_popescu: mike_c turns out they did last year. thanks!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00039447 = 7.5738 BTC [-]
mike_c: yw.
danielpbarron: ;;ident plonky
gribble: Nick 'plonky', with hostmask 'plonky!~plonky@shell.netmonk.org', is identified as user 'plonky', with GPG key id BACBCE400996EB88, key fingerprint 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88, and bitcoin address None
danielpbarron: plonky, are you using this one ----------^
plonky: ok
danielpbarron: try it in here so kakobrekla can see
danielpbarron: !up plonky
plonky: !register plonky 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
plonky: maybe im too stupid
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88 it's valid alright
plonky: yeah it's me :)
mircea_popescu: no name
mircea_popescu: try !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
plonky: !register 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 6F227EFC5B577AE959E13138BACBCE400996EB88. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key 0996EB88 / "netmonk <netmonk@netmonk.org>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
plonky: ok so my trust is 0
plonky: so pretty useless at the moment !
plonky: ty mircea_popescu
plonky: and danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: so what do you do ?
plonky: well, don't know :) i can ask fluffypony to rate me again :)
danielpbarron: !gettrust hegemoOn
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user hegemoOn: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/danielpbarron/hegemoOn | http://w.b-a.link/user/hegemoOn
mircea_popescu: plonky you do archlinux ?
plonky: mircea_popescu: yes :)
plonky: you can find me on the archwiki
plonky: in the security team :)
plonky: and few commint on other topic
mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while, prolly can help with that
plonky: pogoplug ?
danielpbarron: plonky, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2015#1030941 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 19:29:52; ascii_field: if one of you fellas can come up with a copy of the src used to build that archlinux kernel, it contains The Answer (tm)
danielpbarron: there is a bug in netbsd regarding sata drives that archlinux does not have
plonky: well, kernel are compiled and distributed as binary
plonky: as far you know on archlinux
plonky: but a mail on mailing list could help or /join #archlinux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14861 @ 0.00039443 = 5.8616 BTC [-]
bitstein: Assbot should have a reminder command.
bitstein: !remind 5 years this tweet: https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/569936267397500928
assbot: /hashtag/blockchains?src=hash are a friggin database technology; 5 years down I doubt any users will care what the underlying network token is
plonky: i bet ascii_field is asciilifeform ?
fluffypony: plonky: did you break your GPG?
plonky: fluffypony: yeah
fluffypony: ;;rated hegemoon
gribble: You rated user hegemoon on Wed Jul 2 08:48:10 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: smooth PPEUR for XMR trade, no issues.
plonky: it was a time monero was meaning something :)
plonky: 170 euros, 200 monero iirc
fluffypony: ;;rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user plonky has been recorded.
plonky: :)
plonky: thanks sir
danielpbarron slaps fluffypony around a bit with a large assbot
fluffypony: oh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9536 @ 0.00039998 = 3.8142 BTC [+]
fluffypony: !rate plonky 1 PPEUR / XMR historical trade with hegemoon, who subsequently lost access to his GPG key and has had to move to a new account
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/30df173af3bcc2ef
plonky: thanks again
fluffypony: how do I verify the rating?
fluffypony: (once the string has been decrypted I mean)
danielpbarron: !v
assbot: Need a decrypted verification string.
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fluffypony: thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: things and strings go in the V
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo!
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: peeps been trying to get a pogoplug arch system going for a while << actually, we - or, rather me - have been trying to get it -off- arch
ascii_field: because it's a fucking hog
mircea_popescu: did the mystery bit ever get resolved ?
ascii_field: not yet
plonky: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/linux
assbot: svntogit/packages.git - Git clone of the 'packages' repository ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQmCt6 )
ascii_field schmuck occupied all day with PayingWork (tm)
plonky: this one is the answer
plonky: with all the patch included to kernel compilation in archlinux
ascii_field: plonky: do you know for certain that this is the very same arch as was published (see log) for use on 'pogo' ?
plonky: if you can explain what mean "for use on pogo", i would understand better :)
ascii_field: or wtf
danielpbarron: plonky, http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
assbot: Pogoplug Series 4 | Arch Linux ARM ... ( http://bit.ly/1ADCAlV )
ascii_field: that's an x86 build script
ascii_field: (what plonky linked to)
plonky: ok
ascii_field: nothing whatsoever to do with us
plonky: i better understand :)
plonky: so /join #archlinux-arm
danielpbarron stabs plonky
ascii_field: http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-kirkwood-latest.tar.gz << is probably the binary
BingoBoingo: !up plonky
ascii_field: but where's the source
plonky: ascii_field: which arm version ?
BingoBoingo: !s bucket
assbot: 108 results for 'bucket' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bucket
BingoBoingo: plonky: Arm v5, pogoplug v4
plonky: ascii_field: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-kirkwood/PKGBUILD
assbot: PKGBUILDs/PKGBUILD at master · archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQo8vi )
plonky: this is the pkgbuild of the kernel
ascii_field: plonky, others: it isn't just a question of 'which arm'
ascii_field: (5)
ascii_field: but specific system-on-chip that has all the peripherals
ascii_field: http://www.marvell.com/embedded-processors/kirkwood/assets/FS_88F6180_9x_6281_OpenSource.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQogel )
ascii_field: ^ described here
ascii_field: the ethernet, sata, usb, etc. are all on same die
ascii_field: but it's a little-endian arm 5, yes.
plonky: ascii_field: ok look at my url, it point to the kernel config of kirkwood release !
ascii_field: ty plonky
ascii_field: that's probably it.
ascii_field: will have to build and run the damn thing to be sure
ascii_field: if one of you folks with free time want to do this - appreciated.
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in other news, there was an explosion like... 5 blocks from where i live << what was the detonation velocity ?
plonky switched from archlinux-arm to cubian on his cubieboard btw
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ascii_field: plonky: ultimate goal is netbsd with maximally stripped down kernel and scarcely any userland at all beyond bitcoind
ascii_field: whole shebang should weigh a couple of MB gzipped.
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ben_vulpes: i can sorta read -assets logs backwards now
ben_vulpes: neat trick, that
danielpbarron: i think i finally bricked a pogo; rebooted the one with the netconsole thing setup (which has worked in the past) and now i get nothing out of it :<
danielpbarron: "bricked" // i'll just use this one when my usb thingy arrives
plonky: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-kirkwood/archlinuxarm.patch
assbot: PKGBUILDs/archlinuxarm.patch at master · archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1FQr0Zg )
plonky: ascii_field: lot of SATA reference in this patchfile
danielpbarron: nevermind false alarm
ascii_field: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-kirkwood/archlinuxarm.patch#L8563 << possibly this
assbot: PKGBUILDs/archlinuxarm.patch at master · archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1ADHuiZ )
plonky: is it similar behaviour you have on netbsd ?
plonky: i mean stop of work after few minutes ?
ascii_field: never works at all
ascii_field: so probably not
plonky: and what does the netbsd guy say ?
ascii_field: and on second thought we don't have a 88sx7042 either
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ascii_field: netbsd guy ?
plonky: yeah netbsd developpers, who are in charge of arm support
plonky: because it's easy to have a kernel booting and displaying lines in console
danielpbarron: plonky, do you know of any such people in the WoT?
plonky: but a bit harder to have a full hardware support
plonky: danielpbarron: not that i know
plonky: i mean, sending email to the right mailing list explaining your problem
plonky: can bring the official dev support
ascii_field: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=%3Ckiyohara%40NetBSD.org%3E&op=index&exact=on
ascii_field: ^ him
ascii_field: anyone's guess if he has the time, inclination, or this particular piece of hardware to even try
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty BingoBoingo
plonky: http://www.netbsd.org/mailinglists/#port-arm
assbot: NetBSD mailing lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1ADIGmo )
ascii_field: plonky: the one thing definitely known is that the bug is specific to this one particular marvell soc
plonky: one of my systema trainer once told me : if you don't ask, you will never get answer
mircea_popescu: ascii_field about the same as an unladden swallow
mircea_popescu: (was gas thing, killed a guy_
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i thought your tool gave a number
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mircea_popescu: i don't personally do everything!
ascii_field: l0l
ascii_field does
mircea_popescu: i tend to limit what i personally do to women.
ascii_field: good idea if engineering-practical
mircea_popescu: plonky looky, the question here is whether you can be useful not whether he needs some advice.
ascii_field: i was just about to say.
ascii_field does not need to be told, usually, that 'it works better if you plug it in'
ascii_field: and neither do the other folks in #b-a
ascii_field: but to be fair: plonky found for me what i asked for
ascii_field: (the archturd)
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plonky: alright
plonky: i will keep advice for myself, no offense.
BingoBoingo: plonky: It takes time to get to know what advice might be useful as opposed to being noise, that's what the reading is for.
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danielpbarron: i got my pogo to load asciilifeform's netbsd.ub over ftp, and it stops at "Starting kernel ..." // is this step supposed to get a long time?
danielpbarron: take*
ben_vulpes: i generally know the thing needs plugging in but frequently find myself unable to line up the right pins with the right sockets
ben_vulpes: end up ripping the fixture out of the wall and soldering things together.
ben_vulpes: because abandonware.
BingoBoingo: !up plonky
BingoBoingo: !up arvicco