pete_dushenski: "Coinbase is seriously crossing the line now. I have had an account with Coinbase for well over 1.5 year. I bought some btc in March, and sent it to a DNM (won't say which one).. and did not purchase anything. I did not. The btc was a trivial amount, and said DNM has been having troubles with their uptime lately. Literally, no crime committed.
pete_dushenski: Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"."
☟︎ pete_dushenski: well, it's been a gas but i'm off for the eve. cheerio !
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so, this box : if hard drive is attached, will not boot off usb stick. just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist. is hd is detached, will boot off stick just fine, but will NOT detect the hard drive no matter what happens.
mircea_popescu: computing doesn't need someliers, computing needs people with blowtorches.
decimation: detachable inspect-able bios is ascii's dream
decimation: poor ascii must be dialing in from mars
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mod6: !down asciilifeform
mod6: yeah, was just stale.
mod6: ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers. << ah yeah! isn't that from like '98 cypherpunks?
mod6: apparently Satoshi had some correspondence with Wei Dai
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of annoying "magic numbers will save us" voodoo in there, like "Each server is required to deposit a certain amount of money in a special account to be used as potential fines or rewards for proof of misconduct."
mircea_popescu: but nevertheless... the plane looks as much as a plane as it could, among the bamboo sticks and clay pottery.
ascii_modem: all of -my- boxen have socketed bios or else soic8 where can use crocodile
mod6: naw, it died a few days ago... and i remained voiced, but stale from assbots' view
ascii_modem: so i was in a train station, and saw rare sight:
ascii_modem: policemen dragging away some fella in a clean suit and white face
mod6: "unpaid parking tickets"
ascii_modem: turns out he was caught stealing gurl's ticket - his s.o.
ascii_modem: (is the correct engl. legalism for this kind of thing still 'a domestic' if the drama is in a public place?)
mod6: not sure. you'd think the choad would have just bought a ticket of his own. or if caught without a ticket, kept his mouth shut and paid a fine.
mod6: here it's like $200 fine if caught without a ticket.
ascii_modem: it looked like he was trying to keep her from leaving
mod6: yeah, then that something different entierly i'd guess as far as statutes, etc.
mod6: train drama cracks me up. i see it from time to time.
mod6: usually it's just hobo's drunk asf going on at high volume about aliens or jesus. but every now and then, a good fight breaks out.
ascii_modem: re: bios: i'm rather surprised that mircea_popescu doesn't demand 'coreboot' (aka linuxbios) on his boxes
ascii_modem: not so hard to build & burn - on reasonable iron (fuck intel)
decimation: asciilifeform: why would they arrest over subway ticket? pay fine and move on? Must be complicated with the 'domestic'
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assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 14:54:53; mircea_popescu: and this is how chernobyl happened.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fuck does this mean, stealing his gurl's ticket
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "Gerrit workflow - Gerrit interprets each Git commit as an individual change. Changes are autobuilt by Jenkins, and can be reviewed by developers. Once a change has gotten a positive review and has no build issues, it is applied to the master branch. Thus, no developer directly pushes to master."
mircea_popescu: go to all that trouble to introduce git hooks to sign, eschew pgp. i wouldn't use them to put a fire out.
ben_vulpes: p and and and ul and div and everything are just so floppy all of the time and used in such wildly divergent ways
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gribble: chillum was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Chillum> I have never understood how a 1 paragraph post that links to a full article somehow makes it to the top of google searches. They are adding basically nothing
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell chillum hey, you gonna ban that dude now ?
assbot: MPEx owner getting letters from US gov, in danger of being extradited to US to stand trial : Bitcoin ... (
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mircea_popescu: who knew reddit actually becomes funny after a year or so.
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mircea_popescu: we don't usually discuss it because it's so amply obvious, but just in case.
davout: asciilifeform: so i managed to get "busybox mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1" working on the pogo by using buildroot-2015.05-rc1 instead of 2015.02, applying your patches (which do apply cleanly), apply my WIP-patch, and boot on that
davout: as the little work would say: 'victory is mine!'
davout: so now my next issue is when trying to run your experimental armv5 build i get:
davout: "/bin/sh: ./bitcoind-armv5-traditional_b8eec4fa118ba1deefa35af38fe58ae160ec22f4: not found"
☟︎ davout: oh and ben_vulpes, by 'real computer' I mean any non-Apple machine, that'll always be a good improvememnt :D
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davout: running the experimental armv5 binary doesn't work either, with same error, on the buildroot-2015.02 kernel
davout: however, mounting the ext2 partition works
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jurov: funkenstein_: more like He forgot to debug such an optional feature and resorted to monkey-patching
jurov: and it's prolly where that term comes from
Naphex: Khipus, the ancient blockchains. Had much of the security model as well
Naphex: hehe, might not be the best source
jurov: /msg williamdunne yea got the stego data alright
jurov: kakobrekla: pls remove the last 3 lines
jurov: (just trolling you)
assbot: Code Red Dead Ahead: historical chart of average blocksize and network-imposed blocksize limits - Imgur ... (
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assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 09:59:48; davout: "/bin/sh: ./bitcoind-armv5-traditional_b8eec4fa118ba1deefa35af38fe58ae160ec22f4: not found"
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish there were a curated release of coreboot
decimation: reading through some of the 'hardware support' pages, it seems like getting to boot is rarely straightforward
decimation: interestingly it appears that google uses it for their chromebooks
decimation: actually I kinda wonder what the 'inside story' is in the bios business
decimation: why do hardware vendors continually purchase the same american microtrends turds?
decimation: wow, I"ve never tried to boot intel myself
decimation: I always figured the instructions were in a databook
decimation: yeah but the world seems to be adopting the arm turd instead
decimation: and they seem to have no issue with pumping out more
decimation: how does that work? wouldn't they need to integrate with the fab design tools?
decimation: so you get a 'partially compiled' black box turd? it's amazing hardware vendors put up with that kind of shit
decimation: it's clear that man's ability to manufacture small transistors has outstripped his ability to properly design with them
decimation: one wonders why these other countries don't perceive this as a 'sovereignty' issue
decimation: Maybe cn figures they can use us warez until they grow rich enough to toss a few coin toward this concept
decimation: still, merely making an 'open fpga' would be a big improvement
decimation: if one had a working implementation of a silicon cpu (like msp430), wouldn't you be able to test the silicon version against an fpga simulator?
decimation: well, run software and perform a timing analysis
decimation: but I agree, it would be impossible to make clock-exact version of a silicon cpu without heavy support from the manufacturer
decimation: yeah, one can insert trapdoor nasties too
decimation: asciilifeform: the only solution is to make silicon fabs cost about 100-1000x less
decimation: actually making rocket launches cheaper is easy in comparison
decimation: yeah I think I linked herr walker's rant about how the nazis were only paying about $20k per v-2 launch
decimation: there's no reason why leo need be much more expensive than that
decimation: at any rate, less than $1 mil for small payloads
decimation: you mean things like the euv light source, etc?
decimation: yes, and most of the components require constant expert handholding & maintenance
decimation: this is why it looked rational for ibm to pay to take this business off their hands
decimation: no, it always looks like a loser on a purely accounting basis
ben_vulpes: reminds me of apple maintaining os x for the intel arch
decimation: but on the flip side you can print scrip and force your subjects to honor it
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 24-11-2014 22:59:29; asciilifeform: without sovereignty, 'your' tractor - isn't yours. it belongs (along with your starfish) to the big boys.
jurov: if they did not act 'rationally' su would survive?
funkenstein_: thanks, perhaps like the saturn rocket, there will come a day when nobody knows how to build one
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jurov: how caould it survive with dwindling population?
jurov: that increasingly sees whole exercise as utterly pointless?
jurov: how it can be done when everyone has atomic weapons?
jurov: only by local conflicts and attrition
jurov: usg bad,too but more fuel
jurov stares towards fox kennel
jurov: yea, ben_vulpes lives there
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davout: from what i grasped, the issue is that glibc is pulling some random bits in, dynamically
davout: and i was confused because i didn't remember that danielpbarron's pogo runs a debian thing, hence able to run bitcoind
mircea_popescu: davec originally thought it was libnss meanwhile found a "retarded languages should be supported too" thing
jurov: ben_vulpes are you alright?
davout: he's beigneting, he would be!
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 00:00:19; pete_dushenski: Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"."
mircea_popescu: "nobody's in trouble" ? what are you, the kindergarten supervisor ?
jurov: don't feed the animals!
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 10:11:00; davout: oh and ben_vulpes, by 'real computer' I mean any non-Apple machine, that'll always be a good improvememnt :D
davout: mircea_popescu: i iz no hipster
davout: mircea_popescu: you're the one with the trendy beard
mircea_popescu: and you got wild hair! wtf no hipster are you talking about!
mircea_popescu: being french -automatically-> hipster. ask anyone in socal.
davout: mircea_popescu: hipsters have carefully crafted wild hair, mine's natural
jurov: you're natural hipster
davout: fuck you all, i'm leaving, going back to brewing my own beer and growing vegetables on my balcony
davout: cherry tomatoes... lol.
davout: i'm growing roquette, mind you
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 16:28:19; williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Header image now 300kb not 2mb
jurov: or straight back to vectors. 3k then
fluffypony: davout: when I was in the USA I wanted to buy some for a pasta sauce I was making, took me 25 minutes at Whole Foods to figure out that they call it "arugula"
mircea_popescu: "Civilization in the New World has very deep and ancient roots." yeah, and like any case of micropenis, we gotta go digging for it VEEERY carefully.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's called rucola when i had it in my salmon sandwiches at that cafe
mircea_popescu: pretty much called rucola throughout europe, except for france.
mircea_popescu: (italian fashion, somehow teh usians got crazy over it at some point. like a self-flagellation tiramisu)
ben_vulpes: self-flagellation? rucola's delicious!
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: jurov: Yeah I'll redraw the whole image and make it SVG
davout: mircea_popescu: "my salmon sandwiches at that cafe" <<< and i'm the hipster?!
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jurov: if rucola's bitter, then it's stale
mircea_popescu: davout hey, not my fault they know how to make a salmon and parmezan sammich.
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> mircea_popescu: jurov: Yeah I'll redraw the whole image and make it SVG << you know you don't *have* to do everything he says
mircea_popescu has kicked ben_vulpes for treason and undermining the national economy
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: It was already intended, so I could hide some lego in the image
ben_vulpes: at a certain point it'll turn into a game "hey williamdunne this is great but it's not going to fly without a photo of you with a shoe on your head"
☟︎ jurov: yeah williamdunne is lost caouse,like, i have to explain to him i'm trolling him.
jurov: did you get the steg joke at last?
fluffypony: I was like "bro it's a herb, it's rocket. come now."
mircea_popescu: steganography is hiding messages inside images. and a crush is when a guy wants to put his wee wee in your... well...
fluffypony: and they were like "SORRY SIR, THE HOBBY STORE IS DOWN THE ROAD"
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:44:48; ben_vulpes: at a certain point it'll turn into a game "hey williamdunne this is great but it's not going to fly without a photo of you with a shoe on your head"
jurov: yea, i was implying the image was so big cuz you have hidden sth there
ben_vulpes: "my name is vermin/my name is vermin/vermin supreme supreme supreme/and you can vote/for me (if you want to)"...
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I'm really curious as to what decisions led to that photo
davout: the "network-imposed oppression chart" is pretty misleading
mircea_popescu: williamdunne nigeria was originally a booming oil economy, attracted a lot of people. then it went stale, and for a while throughout the 90s there was a large community of desperate, socially marginal young men, who took to playing internet con games. eventually there was some reaction in the shape of, "con the nigerians".
davout: sure, there are going to be problems for you if the transactions keep growing linearly like that, oh wait, it's a log scale, straight lines are actually exponentials
mircea_popescu: davout the amount of herd-herding that the usg has been putting into this is so incredibly useful because a) it really can't do anything but! b) it really does expose the tools.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do they think addressing themselves to a mathematically illiterate crowd is a valid avenue is entirely beyond my comprehension.
davout: mircea_popescu: because everybody understands extrapolating with straight lines
mircea_popescu: course, it's how that country is run, it's how the derps "in charge" got into office, it's the only thing they're tooled to do, and so to the man carrying a bad graph and some banal word tricks...
mircea_popescu: maybe they imagine that their "rape earth sciences" program worked, and maybe they imagine it worked because it was persuasive,
mircea_popescu: rather than because those people actually need their money.
davout: not sure i follow the "rape earth sciences"
mircea_popescu: you know, where the usg actually gained the ability to make bad graphs
mircea_popescu: if you care about anthropology, it's a great thing to watch, how the beast acquires skills. that was the major breakthrough there.
mircea_popescu: even before-r than that, in the 80s, all the left had was "accuse the other of bad things loudly and repeatedly. just that".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it progressed slightly from that, to word redefinitions in the 90s, and so on.
ben_vulpes: i think earth rape sciences are great! they're expensive and produce absolutely nothing.
hanbot: danielpbarron: wtf is a "porcupine freedom festival"?!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you're familiar with the supreme vermin?
trinque: actually "free state project" in New Hampshire
ben_vulpes: i need an emoji for when i want to raise an eyebrow at you mircea_popescu
trinque: the idea was you pack the state with enough gun-toting libertarians and things get better-ish
hanbot: oic. i was kinda hoping for porcupine interpretive dance or smthg ;/
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:03:44; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126936 << one of the nice things about having the source, regardless of how idiotic the dev process which produced it, is cutting away the crud. which you can do with coreboot, just as with bitcoind etc.
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to give anything stupid the time of day in any sense, except perhaps to point and laugh at it if it's stupid enough.
☟︎ hanbot: mircea_popescu is that the philosophy you apply to rewriting poems etc?
mircea_popescu: auden wasn't bad, just not good enough. runcible doom wasn't bad, just not good enough
mircea_popescu: "It’s hard to think of another movie since then that’s been so quotable, so memorable, so widely watched, and has even aged as well as it has." << except star wars, star trek, most of manga...
mircea_popescu: like a sort of nonviolence proponent that takes it up the pooper.
davout: ah, i'll need to check on that
jurov: there were orders of 400 or so before
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:09:03; asciilifeform: decimation: i'd consider doing this, but doubt there is any serious demand
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:10:50; asciilifeform: several years ago, i bought the arm chipset chromebook and tried in vain, for ages, to install gentoo on it
davout: jurov: blergh, my bot is apparently stuck, doesn't feel like starting up, i'll need to access the physical machine, which will happen in the next 24h
jurov: wow. you're running mpex bot directly on the iron?
davout: jurov: OS's are for hipsters
Azelphur: (07:31:47) mircea_popescu: !rate azelphur 1 Not seen for a while now.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: missing me? :P
Azelphur: Good, buried in work mostly, still working for Ragnar :)
davout: jurov: actually, for some reason it doesn't like being run in a screen session
jurov: using gpg 2.x perchance?
Azelphur: Actually working on electrum atm that said, it hates me because I'm British so I'm having to patch it
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: yea, I'm not that active in this channel any more since I don't really hold any assets beyond bitcoin itself
jurov: yea, i use tmux likewise
davout: and, isn't it "blown" ? :D
ben_vulpes: i mean i don't know anything about keeping software up but like...runit? or something?
jurov: and gpg2 does not like when /dev/$stdin is not owned by current user
jurov: ben_vulpes: what would you do with passphrase?
ben_vulpes: or is this people trying to imitate the lispy "jack into running proc" thing with tmux/screen/mosh etc
davout: ben_vulpes: yeah i guess i should, it just doesn't fail often enough for me to care
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:22:40; asciilifeform: as for the free world, it has -not one chip fab- to its name
mircea_popescu: looky, just because we're temporarily tolerating the kulaks means nothing. this is like saying the soviets had no factories to its name, 1915.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1127054 << no they don't. nobody, including the chinese, including putin, has any fucking idea what this even is, because they lack both the intellectual sophistication to comprehend what matters in the world and go seek the signs, and the power to actually have good advisors that do.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:27:12; asciilifeform: they do
mircea_popescu: the pretend-sovereigns are really not that good. that's all.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:28:51; asciilifeform: hence why ru missile controllers are built using ancient soviet arch, yes, but the fab is winblows-controlled and the design turns from circuit to mask also in winblows
mircea_popescu: it's very funny this, they would rather want "sovereignity on windows" than "independence from windows".
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:59:40; mircea_popescu: i'm not about to give anything stupid the time of day in any sense, except perhaps to point and laugh at it if it's stupid enough.
mircea_popescu: i cope with it solipsistically, which is to say, "until it gets in my way it doesn't exist. once it does, ima burn it"
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:35:26; asciilifeform: just the 'palace economy' you inherently get, from a chip fab costing what it costs
mircea_popescu: so, what's a fab cost ? like 10bn or so, say ? less, but anyway. what's the current print rate ? 10x that A MONTH or so ? at least as far as documented (most monetary expansion happens in the dark anyway, it was recently rechristened as "big bank fraud" temporarily, but it is not nor ever was that - most monetary expansion is regulated by the banks)
mircea_popescu: does this then mean that the us generates 10 more fabs each month ? no.
mircea_popescu: does it mean they could ? no, it does not. the proposition is of the kind of "apple shares could buy all of russia". no, they COULD NOT.
mircea_popescu: and moreover, once la serenissima expands - A LITTLE (in comparative tersm) - what's to say it won't be able to afford this ?
mircea_popescu: "looky, just because we're temporarily tolerating the kulaks means nothing. this is like saying the soviets had no factories to its name, 1915."
mircea_popescu: this is not actually true. we could, she didn't want to.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, she was saved from ending up in the street by someone here iirc.
mircea_popescu: moreover, this is entirely not related. things don't scale like this.
mircea_popescu: "my wife couldn't even give birth to an eggplant, what hope is there she could make me an heir"
mircea_popescu: cunts make kids not vegetables, and things don't scale like this.
mircea_popescu: that system works for derp force the 4th. who is, in all terms, worthless.
mircea_popescu: the only thing of any import in there was the cocaine.
mircea_popescu: any merely functional live thing will get its own food and shelter. it's the basis of life.
mircea_popescu: nukes are, in this discussion, theatrical props. we need them like i need a prince albert.
mircea_popescu: understand : the "physical concentration" of mongols was EXACTL:Y like what we do here.
mircea_popescu: it was misperceived by their enemies as "actual", which is how their tactics worked.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:29:30; asciilifeform: which is why i suspect we'll be crafting discrete logic cpu again before this is all over.
mircea_popescu: which is unsurprising. for all the dire straights ee, or law, or anything else finds itself in, management is the worst.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i told you people have nfi how it works :D
jurov: there was a fab "tesla piestany" in czechoslovakia able to make 8080 or uart clones
jurov: got bought by motorola, then "on semiconductor"
jurov: and in 2008 closed and moved to the US or wherever
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:54:17; mircea_popescu: even before-r than that, in the 80s, all the left had was "accuse the other of bad things loudly and repeatedly. just that".
trinque: climates change; that's what they do
trinque: makes me wonder whether the "climate change" meme exists because people wish humans had that much control over their destiny
mircea_popescu: trinque more like, because the derps are by now persuaded that they do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not that guaranteed. depends where and how the addition happens.
mircea_popescu: the original unix " small program for small job" is exactly an attempt to turn the foregoing into an engineering rule of thumb
gribble: cryptogoon was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 29 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <CryptoGoon> thnx
decimation: re: 'fits in head' < in other words the 'mythical man month' more-or-less
decimation: asciilifeform: perhaps part of your problem (re: make ur own fab) is that you are attempting to 'speak with a sword'
decimation: so of course only your time will advance the mission
jurov: no i understood it generally as "anyone's time"
decimation: jurov: but if it were 'anyone's time' than the existing fabs would be kosher?
jurov: but that "anyone" does not see any advantage switching their job for this
decimation: jurov: yes indeed. extremely low cost electronic copying has created the tryanny of 'unintentional monopoly', where the first solution that 'works' gets copied to everyone and becomes the defacto standard
jurov: same thing, basically
decimation: it's difficult to think how about how to escape this even in principle
decimation: in the tor cloud case, one cannot simply 'run an ec2 host' for nearly free like one can crib another's c code
jurov: decimation: but you see money is not a problem here?
jurov: there are admins who know how to do it. just.. not interested
jurov: also, there are people who know how to put together 500nm fab, just.. not interested
decimation: admins still need money to pay for bandwidth, servers
decimation: yes, there are those who could re-create the fab design toolchain ascii mentioned, but I suppose it is the case that they couldn't be bothered
jurov: 10 ec2 servers + bw can be had for $100/mo, perhaps.
decimation: apparently they are too poor to pay that, and nobody else gave a fuck
jurov: but this installation and patching etc. is what is priceless
decimation: jurov: do you run the standard aws linux distro or do you have a fully custom image?
decimation: my understanding is that 'amazon linux' is basically rhel
decimation: yeah, same difference now, redhat acquired centos
jurov: but debian/ubuntu/suse is supported in the same way
jurov: i can see alf's point that generally, such things are done only as "bigger cock" exercise.
jurov: tor cloud, independent fabs, whatever
decimation: yeah, there is something to that. it does seem like pure market competition will lead to monopoly, and it takes a sovereign to say 'do it this way or hang'
jurov: by the way, mircea_popescu: is BISP okay with tor exit nodes?
decimation: does this mean that pure capitalism tends to fragile oligarchy while government direction of the economy leads to a greater diversity of economic practices?
jurov: if it was that simple
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25326 @ 0.00025977 = 6.5789 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: jurov: yes, that article is related. hopefully someone will figure out a model
mircea_popescu: in other news, i just laid a claim on a SIZABLE deposit of wooly mushroom in eulora.
mircea_popescu: needs like... 6 escherian trestleworks among other things to build the fucking mine.
mircea_popescu: this game i'm the only one that can play is FUCKING GREAT
jurov: "Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them"
chetty: <mircea_popescu> this game i'm the only one that can play is FUCKING GREAT//meanie
decimation: right, the new model is 'pay us monthly fer yer warez'
trinque: I see no way this permanent umbilical cord to redmond could go wrong.
mircea_popescu: srsly ben, final tests of finality, we're still finding some bugs but its pretty sparse.
mircea_popescu: by now it's mostly "shit, another bug. no, wait a minute, this is the right thing."
mircea_popescu: and there WILL be a juicy event to reward the patience and help people set up themselves. so.
mircea_popescu: i need 1, it's in the recipe for the wooly mushroom mine.
chetty: good idea, we have changed the version so you will be needing a new cs
jurov: should i prod the windows guy?
mircea_popescu: this shit costs 6 * 3161167 + 40 * 45110 + 45 * 1165 + 4 * 8824 + 1 * 8824 + 10 *1484 + 1 * 23877 = 20906664 satoshi to build.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:58:41; trinque: danielpbarron: are you in NH?
trinque: danielpbarron: cool. the free state project's somewhat interesting; I'm doubtful though that the whole 20k will move when that number's "reached"
trinque: and of course, the thing will still be entirely within the influence of the federal govt still
danielpbarron: the project is pretty dumb and so are most of the people involved in it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82800 @ 0.00025623 = 21.2158 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: danielpbarron: heh! that's a much better reason
danielpbarron: there's a guy from seals that brings his own custom made table
trinque: "Since I have neither money nor knowledge to build something myself"
trinque: jurov: ^ that about covers it
trinque: this reads like some stoner fuck trying to tell me his app ideas, lol
trinque: "dude dude, all you have to do is write this app and we'll be rich"
jurov: imma totally use that word for eulora review, "hyperbitconinized"
jurov: damn, it's even impossible to type correctly
ben_vulpes: "Warning: Can't synchronize with the repository (Couldn't open Subversion repository /home/crystal/scm/crystal: SubversionException: ("Expected FS format between '1' and '3'; found format '4'", 160043))."
jurov: lol, i realized literally 2 days ago i moved eulora off ssd to free some space
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:33:12; davout: i'm growing roquette, mind you
mircea_popescu: trinque > jurov: ^ that about covers it << seriously, reddit, who cares.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:49:36; williamdunne: ah, countering the 419
chetty: its worse than not caring, black kids are scroned for even trying in school, the get told they are acting too white
trinque: I dunno that it goes beyond "this is what disorganized poverty looks like"
trinque: plenty of useless white hoodlums in the south too
mats: mircea_popescu: are you planning to keep the courts project open?
mircea_popescu: was kinda wanting to see if anyone wants to go through those, get an independent evaluation in.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:48:14; decimation: but on the flip side you can print scrip and force your subjects to honor it
mircea_popescu: just like you can be the life of the party and command everyone's attention for as long as you're being riveting ; just as long as you can tell women to suck your cock for just as long as it's a juicy cock to suck.
mircea_popescu: just like the us was a thing back when that guy they shot had a mission
mircea_popescu: be it conquer the south or the moon, but a mission, see. something interesting to do.
mircea_popescu: you cant just print scrip because you got a scrip printer. that's not how it works.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100550 @ 0.00025823 = 25.965 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: just make a power and internet hook=up so that each tile can in principle power/be powered by and connect/be connected by each of its 4 neighbours.
mircea_popescu: then lay them out, and power/internet one side of the wall.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:59:24; jurov: su was bad at that
mircea_popescu: contrary to what is generally propagandized, there isn't a way to use them effectually on the field. the only effectual use for them is in mass media.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103450 @ 0.00025972 = 26.868 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: consider the following math : uranium reserves, about 6*10^9 kgs. about 0.1% of this is usable for the purpose. uranium molar mass is ~250 [grams/mol] which means ~ 6*10^9 * 1000/250 * 6*10^23 atoms in total. meanwhile energy output is ~200 MeV per event. your total ideal available energy is thus ~1.44 * 10^32 eV. meanwhile land surface is ~1.50 * 10 ^ 14 sqm. So you get a total of ~10*17 eV per square meter, or a litt
mircea_popescu: (note that i didn't even bother with using the fact that 99.9% of uranium is not more fissile than lead, nor the fact that you will never actually manage to bust up ALL the atoms)