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cazalla: and here i thought it was nubbins or perhaps even hanbot
jurov: can't he be everyone?
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They will likely try that yes. It's just very expensive politically to anger the gun lobby in this way.
BingoBoingo: Well, there was that one time they listened to women on booze and retracted, but it was an earlier time.
cazalla: danielpbarron, it could be the beard, i'd wager there is a higher ratio of men with beards than not in #b-a and higher ratio of men with bikini wax at /r/bitcoin
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Still a lot of blame for this goes to the fuckers who made AR-style pistols. Some feasibe civilian arms in the US are simply not made due to the legal/regulatory cascade which would follow. (ex. 'smart' guns)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That, but also 'smart' in the sense of authenticates user is defacto forbiden because of New Jersey law.
BingoBoingo: There's state level prohibitions on top of things. In any number civilian taser/stun gun ownership is banned
jurov once had some stray thoughts about nanotubes-reinforced arbalest
trinque: asciilifeform: fascinating; all I can find re: lasers is labling requirements, etc
BingoBoingo: trinque: With sufficiently good batteries laser, magnetic rail, and other exotica might finally be banned.
BingoBoingo: At the moment I imagine there is no explict ban because USG wants to see what Boeing might buy for them off of a sufficiently advanced crackpot while it is still safe to assume such things are minimally portable.
trinque: BingoBoingo: eh probably just hasn't been a problem yet
trinque: there's something there too about being able to outwit the regulators by virtue of them not having the imagination to conceive the necessary ban
☟︎ trinque: though I think that tends over time towards ever vaguer "regulations" which amount to "we can stop you for doing anything we deem 'dangerous'"
trinque: asciilifeform: heh! no, certainly not
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:40:05; trinque: there's something there too about being able to outwit the regulators by virtue of them not having the imagination to conceive the necessary ban
jurov: carbon nanotubes can provide 10 times greater force than steel... that would make for quite an arbalest :>
☟︎ BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but if sufficiently crazy/monied/intelligent crackpot produces solid state laser pistol with more than anti vehicle firings per charge that isn't too portable they would likely consider it a purchase
jurov: don't see how'd ban that
jurov: laz0rs can be bannet more easily than that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course, but maybe it might make sense USG-ified on a boat
BingoBoingo: Ah, you mean like that time Uhaul rented a truck from their yellow competitor to sully that brand
BingoBoingo: At one point in Civ II I edited the files to add the yellow truck as a unit type
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BingoBoingo: tooling in the big challenge it seems. requires a finer grit than bastard file offers
BingoBoingo: These still require something of a piston system though?
jurov: get a pipe, seal one one side but connect it to electrolyzer, jam bullet into other side,
jurov: geerate gases, fire...oh need spark plug, too
BingoBoingo: But a better throw baseball isn't always a faster baseball.
BingoBoingo: (baseballs have effective target zone too)
jurov: lol.. someday maybe we learn how to generate cosmic rays with scotch tape
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assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:49:56; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if you were planning to kill someone, would you helpfully tell him first ? << that's not the point. in a normal society, the threat is a fundamental tool to hierarchy building.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
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mircea_popescu: jurov kukuruku is a great name. used to be this shitty wafer when i was a kid, most ridiculous advertisements.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but formally, as far as writing is concerned, as far as the art of blogging is concerned, it's a good piece.
mircea_popescu: which they definitely were. the russians copied liberally but never equalled
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BingoBoingo: I mean the Germans did win the propaganda war.
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assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 18:05:42; thestringpuller: "I’m actually, right now, working on just getting consensus among the five, what I call, core developers — the five developers who have push access to the git code. I think I’m getting close to convincing them that we have a plan that will work. I’m probably going to have to write some more code . . . I think we have a year to eighteen months. I would love the next release of bitcoin — the
mircea_popescu: "i'm going to pretend like if i find five people that can be bribed, scared or fooled then that's all that was needed to begin with. just, the usg is so ridiculous, toothless and impotent I CANT EVEN SAY WHO THE FUCK THE FIVE WILL BE. hopefully we even find five idiots, or else... whatever, three's enough. one's me, one's me dressed as satoshi, one's me in my wife's panties. win!"
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 18:08:18; ascii_field: the turdmeisters replacing the genuine blockchain download process with an 'equivalent' one that 'omg111itfinallyscales!!11' - was inevitable
mircea_popescu: an internet retard who simply can not stop providing the lolz.
mircea_popescu: a buncha morons are running ripple, what's your point ?
mircea_popescu: a buncha morons actually believe the song and dance about "ethereum investment"
mircea_popescu: a buncha morons were all over "neo bee revolution" last spring.
mircea_popescu: which is why he's "building consensus", and which is why he's carefully waiting for my lunch breaks. because it's not driven home.
mircea_popescu: now if ben_vulpes an' mod6 get this show off the ground, it'll be reheheheally fascinating in short order.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 18:16:24; kakobrekla: ascii_field not missing, 'betmoose' is right there, in the first comment.
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mircea_popescu: anyway. so teh usg-vc-turdatron is "building prediction markets" and usgavin is "building consensus" among the "core developers" of a meanwhile obsoleted branch of bitcoin core.
mircea_popescu: welcome to late 2012 early 2013, i imagine a btc/usd run-up is coming ?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 291.28, vol: 12500.04342666 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 288.504, vol: 15536.49063 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 293.98, vol: 65572.1613873 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 292.227045, vol: 223377.47330000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 289.0, vol: 29.73914519 | Volume-weighted last average: 292.369523406
BingoBoingo: most stagnant low in years + recent large scam deaths === bull run impending
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mircea_popescu: the 200ish wallow is reminiscent (to me) of the $2 wallow
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:12:42; cazalla: TIL danielpbarron is mircea_popescu
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:25:57; asciilifeform: when has usg legalized anything formerly forbidden ?
mircea_popescu: it's now going into senate. most states are going off the ganja bust.
mircea_popescu: no current western state is capable of noncontradictory, meaningful legislation
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> now if ben_vulpes an' mod6 get this show off the ground, it'll be reheheheally fascinating in short order. << just wrapping up the regression of the static binary:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ny9m6Q3R and after this, we just need to bundle up this thing and sign patches & tar ball. gettin close!
danielpbarron: and because assbot and twitter don't get along: "@danielpbarron you are Mircea Popsecu. creator of #bitcoin-asssets, kicked of twitter for violating TOS due to threat on @aantonop"
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:34:58; asciilifeform: my understanding is that in usa, war machines that do not use pyrotechnic effects are not considered 'arms' and are not regulated at the national level
mircea_popescu: nasty thing, too. could definitely cut down a small amr.y
mircea_popescu: not fast enough for rayon to do anything. powerfdul enough to cut through leather, wood etc
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As did Doc Holliday and other Western gunfighters who lived more than a few weeks into their careers
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assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:42:04; jurov: carbon nanotubes can provide 10 times greater force than steel... that would make for quite an arbalest :>
BingoBoingo: holliday had tb, twas what sent him to the dry west
mircea_popescu: IF you don't leverage the strength to the point where it isn't :L)
mircea_popescu: bows are almost limited by materials, but not really, still mostly the archer. crossbows however, it's all the shooter.
mircea_popescu: steel was used for the x part in the xbow before it was abundant enough to go into swords.
BingoBoingo: Well, since the 1800's Krupp has done a lot to improve steel strengths and specializations...
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BingoBoingo: I'll just throw out again that less-wrong's propaganda Harry Potter dicided to solve the Voldemort thing by decapitating everyone with carbon nanofiber tightened by magic.
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mircea_popescu: the only thing it does is it encourages "problems" being dreamed up by people who otherwise aren't worth the time of day.
mircea_popescu: if you don't know how to apply pressure, don't have an avenue to voice your concerns, that means that your concerns aren't worth shit. go die or whatever it is losers do.
BingoBoingo: Maybe Linus's ace in the whole just might be counting "STFU" as a resolution, but my hope for that is dim
mircea_popescu: everything fails eventually. guy's been doing it for what, 20 years ?
mircea_popescu: i don't personally expect anything further from linux. in this sense, he's retired already.
mircea_popescu: single point of failure of a meanwhile obsolete position, but hey. enemy loves to pat himself on the back over having "Conquered" the strongpoints of yesteryear, meanwhile abandoned.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: You want a press credential, yes?
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:12:42; cazalla: TIL danielpbarron is mircea_popescu
cazalla: ah nevermind, in the logs..
assbot: Do I know anyone who knows a bitcoin expert?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's issued by a (actual) church publication. What n00b would deny it?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In plaintext best to attribute things to the imagination. Various other credentials that legitimate religious organization offers work well for prisons, nursing homes, other institutions....
BingoBoingo: Sure any idiot can print a card, but special is the third pary that will keep a record of having issued such a card and affording it officialdom.
BingoBoingo: In USia there is a golden middle of Churches, generally for resource use you want an installation which is part of a larger mainline organization which happens to be helmed by a person favorable to yourself.
BingoBoingo: Anything too new or independent tends to attract investigations for any number of reasons.
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BingoBoingo: Although in that example with their allocation of floor space I like how they in a historically justified manner unspokenly conceed the "dental Room" to all manner of surgery
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Especially lulzy since the already built nike garages go for ~$75k where one would need only hang drywall
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron and actually, since im in a great mood : you get 100 bucks worth of bitcoin bet on any bitbet of your choice, lemme know what you want.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: dude got some pretty slick moves with da ladies i'll tell you that.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You've watch computer engineering long enough to know reality doesn't sell. Charging+Input port sells. Reflective screens sell. Actual reality doesn't sell.
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've actually though that kindest thing to do for customers in this market would be standard grain silo pointing down (jsut like missile silo) full of rye. At least can trip balls or have mash to distil before doom
BingoBoingo: Then again the last really big LSD production bust in the US if I recall correctly was an Atlas-F silo used pretty much this way
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape. << Yeah, seems at least as much as cost of escape.
Vexual: ive got a nice new inkjet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm still on the wade through mud plan.
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If I did foot the whole way still ~3-4 months late, not counting the antihills of the Darien
BingoBoingo: It would, but requires sinking more costs on expendables. Considering indirect air travel.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape. << if you think about it, this is necessarily so.
BingoBoingo: Vexual: A river is near. One navigable by small craft... Maybe...
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mircea_popescu: well yes. prices are not unlike communicating vessels.
mircea_popescu: substantially the same thing wil lcost substyantially the same in a free market. and this is one.
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BingoBoingo imagines better layout than popular belief one is modest wood frame farmhouse with "bunker" portion used as underground farm/garage
BingoBoingo: Granted this is all easier if you conceed to having an RTG or twenty somewhere on the property.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Most of Iowa is set upon a radio material goldmine, atm it is ust more economical to get food from the topsoil
Vexual: if you're digging deep, why not go to the hot rocks and steam power?
Vexual: then you can recycle water
BingoBoingo: If you have a chance to resolve your deficit swiftly versus waiting for a problem to happen, doing the former offers leverage while doing the latter lets fucking New England win the superbowl.
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Vexual: well considering shafts and orbits, cruising in a sub is possibly the best of both worlds if money isn't an option
Vexual: just don't buy an aussie one, loud and slow
Vexual: youll want slow and low, with fast as an option
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Vexual: are you doxxing somes or does qntra do fantail wrappers now? coz i think i know this
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cazalla: Vexual, attempting to dox mysterious winner of usms auction or at least someone connected to it
Vexual: sounds like some good investigative journalism, when did they get the money to afford such a bid tho?
cazalla: perhaps this person simply handle the coins on behalf of another and did not buy himself, i dunno, wild goose chase tbh
Vexual: yes, or its not in chronological order
Vexual: his dead uncle perhaps?
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Vexual: why not call the sherrif, stephen colbert wallpaer is either a derranged fag or a troll
Vexual: youll need a secretarty that sounds like shes ovulating, and a jeb bush voice
Vexual: its not funny really, the coins were stolen under duress, but you know
Vexual: thats the nature of theft
cazalla: OK, i know who the supposed winner of the 27k is
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Situation in this case is being handled politely
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (or rather, upper bound thereof) << your house doesn't collapse the moment a tile hanger in the bathroom falls off, but still,
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Been a while since you've seen an American built house...
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> sounds like some good investigative journalism << very much this cazalla
BingoBoingo: Near the end of the last boom, they were building them to about the lifespan of American cars.
BingoBoingo: Deedbot newest version is deedbot.org? docs?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, knew i was onto something :)
cazalla: is that right or just no confirmation unless included in block?
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mircea_popescu: trinque was going to fix the bizarro counterintuitive interface last we went through this
cazalla: well, in its absence, i have 2 people who are aware what that hash represents so it should work for a time stamp eh?
BingoBoingo: Fuck, is deedbot just too good of an idea to live
BingoBoingo: 3bf559b252621b8e34345ce6f54e8f1a310d0b29ec070a2156f4fd0465f8aa50415bbb56e2a5182e41d719d002a5d2084860b0cc73cb47022339817dcfd76b77
DanTheBitcoinMan: Hey, guys over at BitBet keep shitting on my new bet I'm submitting
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: BitBet tends to reject bets unlikely to attract betting action
DanTheBitcoinMan: I see, but I thought it would attract some good betting action.
DanTheBitcoinMan: So many idiots out there supporting this blatant scam, surely they would bet on it. Kind of like how the BFL Monarch delivery bet went.
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: I'm not a BitBet mod, but a short on XPY with small stakes looks like Garza looking to rob again
mircea_popescu: DanTheBitcoinMan the idea is for the proponent of the scamcoin in question to put btc down on it.
mircea_popescu: this worked historically with bfl, stuck them for a decent sum
DanTheBitcoinMan: Yeah, they'd manipulate and dumb to oblivion to win the bet, last ditch effort if it got big enough
mircea_popescu: anyway, the right way to go about it is, challenge garza or w/e is pushing the thing to put some btc down
DanTheBitcoinMan: Missed that one. The delivery bet needs to be used more often.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the onus is on the deliverer or someone they've built faith in to initiate one of those
BingoBoingo: Thing is even Josh Zerlan knew where to put money down and Homero doesn't respect that.
DanTheBitcoinMan: Yeah, really, I'm sure that BFL placing that bet they still ended up convincing some poor souls that they truly were going to deliver
DanTheBitcoinMan: I guess it just costs them a little bit more to keep running their scams
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: And yet in the long run BFl lost so much more.
DanTheBitcoinMan: So what are everyone's thoughts here about Gavin running around and trying to promote his idea of raising the block size limit? Can anyone point me to a very good argument detailing the reasons this should be avoided?
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: Qntra has a good number of pieces on this point
Vexual: thoughtless miners are dissappearing, i think thats one reason bigger blocks wont propogate
Vexual: when the reward halves next time, fees are more importsnt
Vexual: also, whens the last time you tried to sync anode?
Vexual: the anode is adjacent to important things, so, you know
Vexual: also dimandoid lasers and shit
Vexual: all the electrons cant be wrong
mircea_popescu: <DanTheBitcoinMan> I guess it just costs them a little bit more to keep running their scams << this is the crucial point.
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 02:03:19; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gavinandresen
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047857 << check it out, the shithead lies about imaginary consensus in december, then "is working" on building the consensus he lied about having, in march. get lost, fucksticks. your gig is up.
Vexual: yeah even if you try to unsatoshi, youll get flomabaied
mircea_popescu: and toddf quoite the guy, "For those who don’t want to take the time watching the talk, lwn.net wrote up a great summary of the talk, and that article is here. For those of you without a lwn.net subscription, what are you waiting for? You’ll have to wait two weeks before it comes out from behind the paid section of the website before reading it, sorry."
mircea_popescu: they don't really understand what they're doing, but they ARE trying.
BingoBoingo: It is a model I wish I would have seen 5-10 years ago
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Vexual: guess dan wasn't really looking for everyones thoughts
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cazalla: ya, seen others, just not as provocative
cazalla: ah i just found those ones on the tardstalk forum
davout: and what was that train ticket bzns where they were moving to brussels or sthg, grepped my logs, couldn't find it
cazalla: not sure what become of hte train tickets, i don't follow it as close as i once did, might skim that thread every couple of days
cazalla: mp suggested we fire at most 2 bullets.. i think garza is bullet ridden by this point so unlikely to ever be more
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 03:33:45; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron and actually, since im in a great mood : you get 100 bucks worth of bitcoin bet on any bitbet of your choice, lemme know what you want.
danielpbarron: that 100 USD worth could be 700 USD worth for me at current odds :D
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cazalla: fluffypony, if you had to guess though?
cazalla: looks like some hambeasts in the background though
cazalla: coindesk deals.. they must be doing it tough over there
cazalla: seems they only accept credit card or paypal, no bitcoin
cazalla: i'd write this up just for the lulz but had a few too many
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adlai: asciilifeform: working my way through the lispm talk makes me want to study EE
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nubbins`: <asciilifeform> i was briefly a member of a kind of electronics club that met in a huge old church <<< we hold pop-up art sales in churches a couple times a year
nubbins`: incredibly, incredibly inexpensive
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the lulziest part there is the "rabbits and fish" thing. i imagine cazalla may have a good laugh.
nubbins`: even if those pots indicate /shelves/ of pots...
mircea_popescu: ESPECIALLY who the fuck came up with the bright idea of making four tiny tanks
nubbins`: i suspect whoever drew this has never seen, say, a tuna
mircea_popescu: as large as the motorcycle garage! because this is sensible now.
nubbins`: i like how there's 4 queen size beds too
mircea_popescu: because mindshare is realityshare, and how important things are in your stupid head really is how important things actually are.
nubbins`: "twenty rabbits should be enough for anyone"
nubbins`: i've got about a half bunker here between the house and the backyard
mircea_popescu: nubbins` im with you. never saw tuna, in either the marine or the feminine variant.
nubbins`: massive, *massive* things. almost silly to see the full thing next to a canned portion
nubbins`: like purchasing a thimblefull of elephant meat
mircea_popescu: japanese ppls regularly buy 1mn dollahs worth of a tuna capture
nubbins`: BingoBoingo:asciilifeform: If I did foot the whole way still ~3-4 months late, not counting the antihills of the Darien <<< get a boat from panama to turbo, colombia
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the famous tokyo fish auctions have $2mn+ tunas being sold on the regular
nubbins`: they had to ban foreigners because too many
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the insanity of all those bunk beds, space's barely fit for you and one woman's spawn : why the fuck is the quarantine room the most central thing in there ?
mircea_popescu: shit's got like 4 doors, what is this, the set for alien 8 ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if they make women go in there while on their period.
mircea_popescu: ahaha this thing... the more you look the lulzier it gets. so in the office, for no reason whatsoever, they opted to make the door open into one of the seats. when they could just have had the weirdo table arrangement in the other end.
mircea_popescu: obviously it comes from the supermarket, not worried about that part.
nubbins`: that's actually a massage table, treadmill, stationary bike, and a rack of free weights in the laundry room
nubbins`: because, y'know, people like exercising next to an operating clothes dryer.
nubbins`: also, quarantine room/hallway/elevator/generators/garage is a fully enclosed section with no way in or out
nubbins`: srsly, start in quarantine and make your way to a toilet
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 12:58:08; fluffypony: so Coindesk is now Groupon?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` why do you want a toilet ? YOURE IN QUARANTINE!
nubbins`: the motorcycle ride shook my bowels
nubbins`: plus the fumes from the garage and generator room are making me ill
mircea_popescu: anyway, the url is, let me remind and underscore, www.ultimatebunker.com/wp-content/uploads/6000-sq-ft-underground-bunker.jpg
thestringpuller: Didn't beavis and butthead intrigue you with the paint thinner episodes?
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY indicative of the general quality of the internets.
mircea_popescu: it's not below average. this is the sort of shit the consumer internet is made of. from wikipedia to the last fucking blogspot blog.
mircea_popescu: the internet's for porn because really, it can't do anything else... not well, it isn't a question of well.
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mircea_popescu: danielpbarron sent it. i guess we find out if anyone's replacing kako's logs :D
mircea_popescu: also lawl at that choice. "o you wanna give me 100 ? let me take it as 7!"
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nubbins`: "all we've built so far is steel coffins roughly the size of shipping containers, but we swear we can build a 9000sqft bunker"
mircea_popescu: the notion that anything under ~50k sqft or so is a "bunker".
nubbins`: these ones are *cough* nuke-proof
nubbins`: plenty of old ww2 us military bunkers around here
mircea_popescu: for one thing, there's 18 ~meters~ of concrete between the bunker and the atmosphere. the last 3 interspersed with steel plate.
nubbins`: "a couple inches of topsoil should be good"
nubbins`: nevermind that this isn't a bunker, it's a fucking rotisserie
mircea_popescu: "nuke proof - but careful if the bomber tries to land nearby"
nubbins`: all you need is for two vendor reps to spit-roast you in the quarantine room
nubbins`: ball-peen hammer on floor for scale
nubbins`: bottom guy should be standing tho
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the only thing they have actual pictures of
nubbins`: i guess that's the grow room ;p
mircea_popescu: "and here's joe. joe has bunker. he's on 720mg clorazepine".
nubbins`: okay, they're actually like 4 feet under the topsoil
nubbins`: except for all the mean things i said
nubbins`: Q: Does each bunker come with ten motorcycles, or do I have to provide my own?
nubbins`: also the frieght elevator has one elevator door and two swinging interior doors
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what i wanna know is, do they carve it by hand ?
nubbins`: that guy is still seling wooden w/e on the forums hey?
mircea_popescu: dude... in srs now. they can't be intimating that those steel frame boxes are the "bunkers" ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00034573 = 11.3399 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: I get a lot of notifications on twitter for someone who doesn't really tweet.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu if not, they've posted WAY too many pictures of them
mircea_popescu: i guess these idiots never heard of scatter gamma huh ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the kids that didn't like physics class : any metal, if subjected to radiation such as a nuclear explosion, becomes a secondary source of gamma rays, as it slows down the rads.
thestringpuller: google translates the short phrase to: "educational program"
mircea_popescu: if it's russian, it prolly has liquidation in it somewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think of it more as a quick shower, rather than dirty :D
nubbins`: "this shelter is gross, all the cans are lined with BPA"
nubbins`: next door neighbour has been shrieking hoarsely at the top of her lungs for ~45 seconds now
mircea_popescu: "Is someone really going to settle for ‘fairly good nuclear protection’? It’s like they’re comparing radioactive fallout to a chilly breeze, and as long as you block most of it, you should be relatively comfortable. "
mircea_popescu: the ohgizmo piece is about as retarded as the originals
mircea_popescu: it's not a fucking ideological issue, it's a practical matter. radiation isn't this fucking thin from outer space, it's everywhere.
mircea_popescu: but for that matter, these idiots would prolly be amazed to hear about the ocean of air with its 100kpa right
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform intel says this is basically a married life phenomenon. familiar to eu/ru folks as the "going to work on car" man had enough of wife thin
nubbins`: ;;google toronto pan am man cave
mircea_popescu: i thought the man cave is where you take the daughter's classmates / maid / random roadkill for processing in the family way.
nubbins`: "i brought this roadkill in for processing... in the family way"
mircea_popescu realises tardively he might be the only one here subscribing to the hitchiker = roadkill convention.
nubbins`: "The man who owned some of the equipment which was found at the tunnel saw it on television and called police. He said he had loaned it to an employee — a construction worker who underpins homes."
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd imagine there's just as many people using the phrase "long pig"
mircea_popescu: anyway, "in the family way" is this 50s periphrase, for fucking. well, fucking in the 50s way, ie -> pregnancy.
nubbins`: best part of this "mystery cave" (which captivated the nation btw) is the people saying "they shouldn't be allowed to do that!!"
nubbins`: can you fuckin imagine if you were /not allowed to dig holes/?
mircea_popescu: the one thing 1980s russia, romania, poland etc agreed in their own idioms was
nubbins`: canada: leftist sensibilities under a hard-right exterior
chetty: and besides you are making a mess in the neighborhood, not allowed. No messy laundry or flags either
thestringpuller: i roll around with dufflebag of benjies under my car seat all day erryday
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100930 @ 0.0003489 = 35.2145 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: "just let us know why you have 'em and if it checks out you can have em back"
thestringpuller: bank would probably call feds if you showed up with dufflebag full of benjies
nubbins`: s/probably/be required by law to
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17897 @ 0.00035333 = 6.3235 BTC [+]
xinxi: The owner of coinut.com
xinxi: I used to be in wot.
xinxi: I don’t know why I am not now.
assbot: xinxi is not registered in WoT.
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-228-5.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None
dignork: mircea_popescu: what is dx.com / << chinese online shop with cheap electrnic garbage, very popular in RU
jurov: !trust assbot xinxi
adlai: xinxi: gribble wot ≠ assbot wot
jurov: !gettrust assbot xinxi
assbot: xinxi is not registered in WoT.
adlai: popular in israel too
xinxi: I see. How to get registered in assbot wot?
mircea_popescu: but yes, you don't need to, you were grandfathered when they split .
xinxi: thestringpuller: I am still trying to attracting more users.
xinxi: thestringpuller: yeah, mpoe was great.
xinxi: there are buyers, and I’m trying to find a big seller for them.
xinxi: one is asking for 100 BTC+ binary options.
xinxi: and the other is asking for vanilla options for his 4000 BTC.
xinxi: Maybe you guys can help?
xinxi: I don’t sell. I need you to sell.
xinxi: 100 BTC binary options should be fine for many of you. The size is not that big.
trinque: mircea_popescu: cazalla: you guys just tried to add a rando text file with a hash in it
trinque: and uh, did I just hear the word "intuitive"?
trinque: cazalla: use deedbot-: add-key dpaste.com/blah.txt
trinque: cazalla: use deedbot-: add-deed dpaste.com/blah2.txt
trinque: where key is your gpg public key
trinque: publishing a hash directly isn't a bad idea at all, though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42830 @ 0.00034294 = 14.6881 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: fucks sake, how to use it was in the logs
trinque: it will get "improved", but I also have real life to attend to
nubbins`: "It seems somehow the hacking team or the hackers have been able to get a hold of banking 'enigma' code so they're able to generate the exact same sequence of the card that I would be receiving in the mail."
mircea_popescu: but adapters are trivial to find so don't worry too much
mircea_popescu: xinxi what's the difference between a binary option and a bitbet like danielpbarron was talking earlier ?
mircea_popescu: <trinque> publishing a hash directly isn't a bad idea at all, though << it is.
mircea_popescu: i didn't actually check teh journos did in fact sing. yo BingoBoingo ! i'm holding you responsible!
mircea_popescu: cazalla we know is new to this entire computer thing :D
trinque: mircea_popescu: is a bad idea?
trinque: thought that's what you gents were trying to do
mircea_popescu: but publishing unsigned mattrer on the deedbot is horribru.
nubbins`: i find this "sequencing fraud" thing a bit much
xinxi: mircea_popescu: you need to price a binary option before you buy or sell.
nubbins`: what, the haxxors enumerated 100 million visa card numbers and /tried them all/ every time this guy got a new card?
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 12:21:36; danielpbarron: that 100 USD worth could be 700 USD worth for me at current odds :D
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2015 03:09:05; mircea_popescu: "What is Social Security Number (SSN) Randomization? The project is a forward looking initiative of the Social Security Administration (SSA) to help protect the integrity of the SSN by establishing a new randomized assignment methodology. SSN Randomization will also extend the longevity of the nine-digit SSN nationwide."
trinque: danielpbarron: ^ MARK OF DA BEEST
nubbins`: sure, but linked story was this poor canadin schmo who has had NINE credit cards IN A ROW compromised
mircea_popescu: yes well, it's journalism. what starts as a discussion about us ssn ends up as a story about a canadian fucking a gator.
nubbins`: like, he says "this is nuts, can i pick up my replacement at the branch this time?" and on his drive home he gets a call saying his card number was stolen
mircea_popescu: xinxi you can just !up in private at assbot to permavoice
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, "sequencing fraud" is how illiterate gubernmint pinheads refer to "we use shit crypto and so it gets broken all the time"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00034223 = 5.4945 BTC [-]
nubbins`: straight up tho, impossibly small address space.
nubbins`: 16 char visa number, first 4-8 are predictable based on bank/branch
wangxinxi: thestringpuller: it works now. thanks
mircea_popescu: 16 digit number. as in you know, fuckall. eight chars pw.
nubbins`: when i was in korea in ~2007 they had some serious online banking voodoo
nubbins`: 1) install activex certificate on usb drive 2) put usb drive in computer 3) go to banking website & log in 4) grab OTP list from wallet and enter random 2 of 24 codes
nubbins`: tap your elbows 3 times, kill a monkey, etc
nubbins`: the wallet card thing was mildly interesting, although overall very cumbersome
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28271 @ 0.00033333 = 9.4236 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: by their floor space combined, > 100x the size of the 8 showers.
nubbins`: who needs a water purification setup when you have ten motorcycles
mircea_popescu: those chucks prolly don't even wash, they just circle each other riding on one wheel and shoot the dirt off.
pete_dushenski: reading darwin atm and his comment on the 'breed like rabbits' thing is less 'huge numbers' and more 'anywhere, anytime'
pete_dushenski: his comments on captive breeding were mildly interesting
nubbins`: ;;google chroming planet earth
mircea_popescu: incidentally re water purification : ozone by far the best bet for the application.
pete_dushenski: qualcomm getting into bitcoin mining space to the tune of $116 mn
mircea_popescu: they actually still have enough inefficiencies to wring out, so...
nubbins`: i've a UV-C water purifier that's served me well in many a tropical shithole
PeterL: ozone can be generated by hitting O2 with the right UV wavelength
pete_dushenski: i can't imagine intel and amd are far behind such public ventures.
nubbins`: except for that one trip where i slipped up and brushed my teeth with tap water.
wangxinxi: mircea_popescu: I don’t see that danielpbarron asked for binary options.
pete_dushenski: though i imagine they've already been tapped for more covert operations already
PeterL: another wavelength destroys the ozone when you are done using it to clean your water
nubbins`: 10/10 will buy another if this one breaks
mircea_popescu: it's a very powerful combo, which is why all modern water purification is done by this uv/ozone thing
mircea_popescu: well, they're also trying to get bio stuff working, but that's iffier.
PeterL: reverse osmosis is good for getting salt out of your water
mircea_popescu: it is yes. but the application here is more "get her dead epithelia / endometrium out of the washing water"
wangxinxi: mircea_popescu that seems not an option. But it’s definitely quite exciting.
mircea_popescu: wangxinxi but the question is, in what manner is it not an option ? if it goes over you win, if not you lose, or reverse.
wangxinxi: mircea_popescu I don’t know. But can we relate it with volatility?
mircea_popescu: wangxinxi well of more practical interest : just back your options into it. clearly there's volume there, which is exactly what the purpose of bitbet is : to provide liquidity/insurance to repackagers such as yourself.
mircea_popescu: so, if you have uncovered demand, simply calculate what backing you need and offload the risk on bitbet
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: LOL. And you once said "Bitbet is just a toy"
wangxinxi: mircea_popescu that could be a good idea. can we calculate the delta of such a bet?
pete_dushenski: “following the humiliating CFTC episode, Blythe [Masters] disappeared completely from the public radar. Now, with a one year delay, she has finally reappeared… re-emerged as chief executive of the Bitcoin startup, Digital Asset Holdings.”
☟︎ jurov: looks like cloud mining chupmatron
wangxinxi: mircea_popescu it’s possible to hedge. but it seems not very liquid. so it’s a bit difficult in practice.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: not serious, not community-driven, smells like trouble ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 78 @ 0.02348457 = 1.8318 BTC [+] {7}
danielpbarron: haha i was wondering when that would finally get pasted in here
ben_vulpes: far cuter girls at blues night than mit, dun see why i'd bother
adlai writes his patent guy about 'cape hoodies'
danielpbarron: "Now let me tell you about my dog: i don't have a dog. So that is the end of that."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16706 @ 0.00033254 = 5.5554 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: lol haven't i complained yest that it scans gigabytes of data per wallet?
jurov: oh and btw reducing pruning limit did not help here, fluffypony
fluffypony: jurov: you'd have to reduce the limit and go from scratch afaik
jurov: yea i suspected building the db with lower limit is neede.. but i gave up. maybe when i get ssd available
ascii_field: 'sequencing fraud' << i suppose this is when i attempt to explain 'fiat banks create small-time sp4mz0r fraud' thing
ascii_field: imagine you had access to money printer, but only as a lackey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56210 @ 0.00033245 = 18.687 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: i.e., you can't easily scoop from it directly in broad daylight
ascii_field: but you are in charge of, e.g., the door locks
ascii_field: so you strike a deal where the place is robbed 'a little' now and again.
ascii_field: the money printer is something like a black hole of 'moral hazard', it has this effect where it is more or less impossible to behave like anything other than a scammer when sufficiently near the event horizon
ascii_field: the sequences are -deliberately- predictable, the crypto is quite consciously weak, the authenticators are a joke, the turdamatics require winblows, etc.
ascii_field: and none of this should surprise anyone who understands what a fiat bank is.
ascii_field: and likewise all of the fraud-mitigation stuff is bones thrown to the plebes to shut'em up.
ascii_field: sums to >>>> 'it's not a bug - it's a feature!'
ascii_field: there were CC # generators on usenet in the mid-'90s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16440 @ 0.00033471 = 5.5026 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My bad :( fluffypony: Nope
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28568 @ 0.0003361 = 9.6017 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 92 @ 0.01351001 = 1.2429 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: "I was right there, after the talk. It was a very sad moment. He was really distressed. He started yelling and punching himself in the head."
nubbins`: google-translated linked source: "We all try to find the bag that thought was lost. Stallman was bad and sad."
trinque: nubbins`: "punching himself in the head" << how autistic
ascii_field: old news, found by sheer accident when reading piece re: rms no longer using 'loonson' mips laptop on account of it having been pinched and no replacement could be had
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 135 @ 0.01350837 = 1.8236 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: say, any thoughts on thin client laptops?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 240 @ 0.01339666 = 3.2152 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: i bought the one with exynos 'arm' chip, it's gathering dust. there is not enough published chipset info to run a proper os on it
ascii_field: (the only distro where -all- of the hardware works, incl. suspend mode, is google's gpl-violating gentoo fork that ships with it)
ascii_field: the runner up, and afaik only other working os, is 'arch' - which is systemd-infested
ascii_field: trinque: with a few exceptions (toshiba's miniature 'libretto' and similar) i am not particularly fond of ancient laptops - they tend to be bulky and have irreparably decayed batteries
☟︎ ascii_field: lcd backlight tubes fade, also (but these one can generally find replacements for)
ascii_field: in this discussion i'm making the assumption that you intend to actually work with the machine - rather than, say, using for pgp
trinque: ascii_field: does not seem that there are any good choices to be made
trinque: if it's actually "thin" though, its job might just be terminals and ssh
trinque: and have an *bsd box somewhere else
trinque: in my dreams there's an e-ink terminals-only device with an ethernet port and hardware rng
nubbins`: i have a kobo e-reader that i'm pretty sure i could ssh on
nubbins`: but yes, it's absolutely brutal to, say, type five characters.
nubbins`: flip a page every couple minutes? no sweat
ascii_field: best cure is to obtain, e.g., 'amazon kindle', jailbreak, enlinuxate, and actually try it
nubbins`: enter a wifi password? get out
trinque: in my dreams, of course, eink does not suck
trinque: also my harem numbers 5000 and I rule earth
☟︎ nubbins`: i only yesterday tried this, no joke
nubbins`: speaking of kobo, i should charge that thing
danielpbarron: i've kept up with some very fast paced arguments using only my thumbs
danielpbarron: i don't recommend getting a iphone strictly for this purpose though; it's just a nice bonus if you already have one
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i can't code in ssh terminal on iphone tho unfortunately.
danielpbarron: probably a good thing; anything worth using should probably only be coded on a setup similar to what i've heard asciilifeform describe
mike_c: "He compares 21’s work in building bitcoin products for the general public to the sequential development of 56-kilobit Internet modems, international fiber cables and wireless Internet towers, which all helped bring the Internet into people’s homes in the late 1990s."
mike_c: their working on the pogo build!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00033226 = 12.4265 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: 116mil 'mystery startup' << expect to see $maxint of this. usg will build malicious 'wallets' and other mainstreamadoptatron crap for all-comers
ascii_field: expect also to see 'siliconized' versions of gavincoin sold at massive discount and 'dropped from airplane' etc
ascii_field: the buggers got the message that purely spreadshit-based shenanigans don't have the desired 'bang'
ascii_field: so they're moving on to, well, the actual game.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00033674 = 3.3001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 80 @ 0.014 = 1.12 BTC [+]
mike_c: 21 inc is the new $116 million startup
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00033003 = 6.7161 BTC [-]
davout: my read on 21 is "some bitcoin noob that happens to be fiat rich rounded a couple of other rich buddies, and wants to fix bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: so a thing that did no work is actually compared to the few things that did work selected out of the large set of things that also did work by the criteria that they survived ?
mircea_popescu: very smart. by this reading, the grime on these peoples' bathtubs is like a mouse : almost a life form, and one that didn't go extinct, either.
ascii_field: nobody in usa gets to so much as look with one eye at 112mil usd without a gauleiter reviewing it
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyway, this scurrying to coinbase and mysterymeat is a good indicator of a) how painful the crushing of shitvin shitdressen was and b) how scary #bitcoin-terrorists actually is.
davout: lol, now i'm forever_alone.jpg in #bitcoin-terrorists
ascii_field: if they're feeling pain, it's a secret from me
ascii_field: what does printing an extra 112m cost them?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the humiliation that 112mn is trying to assuage and can never be assuaged is the issue.
mircea_popescu: always the impotence is the issue, never the neurosis attendant.
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 16:32:19; pete_dushenski: “following the humiliating CFTC episode, Blythe [Masters] disappeared completely from the public radar. Now, with a one year delay, she has finally reappeared… re-emerged as chief executive of the Bitcoin startup, Digital Asset Holdings.”
ascii_field: when usg officials start vanishing from the stage because no longer can pay bills, rather than folks like moiety disappearing from our ranks - then we know, yes, victory
ascii_field: just pointing out that we've not taken berlin yet.
mike_c: i think she went broke..
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 16:38:37; wangxinxi: mircea_popescu it’s possible to hedge. but it seems not very liquid. so it’s a bit difficult in practice.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: that's cause you wouldn't give her duffle of benjies!
mircea_popescu: it's very weird, this psychology of the failed entrepreneur. he comes here with a 100 btc problem, is given a solution that can and historically has covered 1000s.\
mike_c: investors in US follow silicon valley like the midwest follows new york fashion. Now that they are pouring money into these startups, it could be a feeding frenzy kind of year.
mircea_popescu: the catch being that in order to avail himself of it, he has to give up some shard of his entrepreneurial delusion, and instead buckle down and work like a honest man.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: first i'd have to dig one up myself
mircea_popescu: the sort of usd rain we're going to see here has not yet seen before, and will not be seen afterwards.
mike_c: i used to enjoy marking the bull run by when MPOE had to update its strike prices. can we bring that back this year? :)
mike_c: ah, yes. not to worry, the winklevii are almost done with that.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: bezzlacademia's hooked up and at full revv now
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy to me is the part where these schmucks have gone from claiming "unanimity" three months ago to claiming "majority" a month ago" to claiming... parity, today.
ascii_field: legitimacy-spraying the sc4mz0rz like in every other field
mircea_popescu: at this rate by the end of the year they'll be claiming they exist and nobody'll be buying it.
ascii_field: incidentally, (may have mentioned this in the past) - 'mit press' is among the clearest possible illustrations of what happened to american academia in past 20 yrs
ascii_field: (look at the book catalogue then, vs. now)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24118 @ 0.00033819 = 8.1565 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea that i'm not invited to give talks about how to ruin bitcoin to fucking cia is not the worst credential ever.
mircea_popescu: not so much because they don't think i could figure out a way, but for the more obviously blunt reason that they correctly realise that if i give them a trojan horse they wouldn't have the intellectual werewithal to spot it.
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 19:25:54; ascii_field: trinque: with a few exceptions (toshiba's miniature 'libretto' and similar) i am not particularly fond of ancient laptops - they tend to be bulky and have irreparably decayed batteries
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 19:29:56; trinque: also my harem numbers 5000 and I rule earth
mircea_popescu: generally a harem ceases to function over about 50 heads or so.
mircea_popescu: but what sort of dreams! you wouldn't even know most of the hetairai
trinque: man I dunno, I was just saying old ThinkPads are cool
mircea_popescu: then what's all this stuff about small penises and pigmen ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: you can get chinese replicas of any battery in large bulk << raw cells - yes. the charge controller, with its parameter rom calibrated to those cells for correct discharge curve - no.
trinque: mircea_popescu: LOL, that'll teach me to discuss my dreams here
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no i mean the whole shebang, in a plastic casing to match original.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i've bought 5 types or so, all crud
ascii_field: plus they tend to sit on shelves for years, and Li ion rots in storage
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: separate problem is that, typically, none of these machines had decent battery run even when the cells were new...
ascii_field: incidentally, and i've not seen this observation made elsewhere, but i noticed that laptop mechanical build quality went to shit around the time they stopped costing what a decent used car cost.
ascii_field: there was a pretty clear 'phase change' some time around 2000
mircea_popescu: i think it's related to advances in plastics. once they went fully injected everyone stopped caring.
mircea_popescu: there's this thing that happens once something becomes "a solved problem".
mircea_popescu: that something is, buncha smart kids leave, buncha women move in.
ascii_field: 'the men build, the women inhabit' - al schwartz
ascii_field: when the machines turned 'disposable', they stopped having, among other things, steel skeleton
ascii_field: (and 50 other supposedly-'optional' items)
trinque: while we're veering towards the "there are no computers" topic, what's wrong with the idea of doing a little lisp-running raspberry pi competitor as a toe-hold into the computer making business?
trinque: no one once ever worked his way into a market
ascii_field: trinque: and let's sell candy made from 9 parts sugar to 1 part turd
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ascii_field: selling turd where c-machine abstraction stack continuously leaks into the supposed 'lisp' - is pure sc4mz4tr0nix
trinque: ascii_field: there are almost limitless tiers of potential products between hfcs and actual food
ascii_field: trinque: but before you can even have this line of thought, find a stock chipset to which you can even port 'minix' without -any- blobs or -any- detectable dysfunction
trinque: there are plenty of people out there that don't give a shit about the blobs
trinque: why not sell something to them with the intent of removing said poo
trinque: whether they *should* care is another question
ascii_field: trinque: wake me up when this has actually happened, anywhere, ever.
thestringpuller: trinque: you ever try removing poo from your food so its edible?
ascii_field: in practice 'it works, fuck you, we're practical people, go away' and blob stays
trinque: thestringpuller: I don't need to discuss the details of the metaphor
trinque: ascii_field: so don't have those people involved in the decision
trinque: you're CEO of deturdatronix
ascii_field: trinque: you're talking about reverse-engineering, a la nvidia driver, xilinx (see old thread, etc.)
ascii_field: by the time you have something usable, chip is out of print
trinque: ascii_field: why does it need a GPU?
ascii_field: just bringing up well-known example of this kind of process
trinque: I'm thinking programmable light switch with ethernet port
☟︎ ascii_field: buncha folks spend years picking apart the vendor's driver (mind you, this tells nothing about hidden functionality in the silicon)
ascii_field: and when the product is something like ready to use in life - bam.
trinque: I'm sure you're right about that
ascii_field: chip is out of print, and next version is quite deliberately incompatible.
trinque: but then I'd just say aim for something dumber
ascii_field: that you would like to see starring in this film, so to speak
chetty: isn't the new apple watch thing planned that way? chip is not replaceable
trinque: here's the opportunity I see; maybe I'm wrong
trinque: all these shitty boards like the rpi are going to be making their way into all kinds of "smart" products
trinque: they're all going to get hacked and fucked with like it's 90s windows all over again
trinque: meanwhile some plucky upstart builds something really dumb, like my ethernet light switch
trinque: understands the thing the whole way through, demonstrates its superiority against everything that's been ravaged by hax
trinque: maybe version 5 of the thing gets a USB port
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mircea_popescu: <trinque> I'm thinking programmable light switch with ethernet port << this is kinda how this process is going as is. hence the cardano.
mircea_popescu: and you know exactly how it'll go : the usg horde will derp their derpage, most idiots of the jwz ilk will "not want to pick the political bone" and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: nttawwt, but don't imagine slaves come to sense through any process that doesn't involve clubbing them into the dirt.
cazalla: trinque: where key is your gpg public key <<< for some reason i thought i read bot imported pub key from wot, my bad
mircea_popescu: better this way, the less the sks servers are involved the better.
cazalla: deedbot- add-key dpaste.com/35V6CJB.txt
cazalla: so do i include the : ? deedbot- pm'd me with "Bad URL or network outage"
cazalla: trinque, forgot about upping the thing, i'm hung over :)
trinque: nbd, maybe it's misbehaving?
cazalla: i'll just stick to pm'ing it so that i can throw a bunch of commands until i get what it is i need and no-one here will be the wiser
deedbot-: imported: FD9FB3F73B5AE8499A02F0C521B9818A468F4AD0
trinque: looks like just being slow
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trinque: cazalla: yeah it's running butt slow
trinque: I'll look into that, meanwhile let me know if it ever eats your deed
trinque: it's strange, the load average on the box is 0.24
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danielpbarron: fyi the "blue" pogo (the one that doesn't have sata port) is works just like the purple one would if installing to a SD card
danielpbarron: in that if you have instructions that work for the purple one, the will also work for the blue one
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jurov: should have implied vatican, it incorporated roman laws, too
jurov: and eastern orhodox church even more so
jurov: yes, implecated :)