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asciilifeform: asciilifeform out of school was dumb, from chumpatronic pov, as a sack of rocks, got conned into designing for these people a certain iron part, ~in off hours~ from cleaning ducts. it was, as i understand, put into production, with a mit grad's name attached.

a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:14 Mocky: speaking of plot twists, pretty surprised by the Ada usage. I pictured usg.DOD-design-by-committee lang commissioned to help build out the chumpatronic-mass-programmer infrastructure for gov contracts. I guess it's time to reevaluate my priors.

Mocky: speaking of plot twists, pretty surprised by the Ada usage. I pictured usg.DOD-design-by-committee lang commissioned to help build out the chumpatronic-mass-programmer infrastructure for gov contracts. I guess it's time to reevaluate my priors. ☟︎

asciilifeform: picture, with access to e.g. boeing's , junkyard, a similar d00d could build something like the nazi 1-seat jet, with own hands also. but to describe it as 'garage-buildable jet' is rather chumpatronic spin imho.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was a specific chumpatronic term used by koch et al

asciilifeform: as i understand it, whole idea of 'backed currency' is intrinsically chumpatronic.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this here is separate item, where they lately try to get some of the 'collegiate' chumpatronic moolah << AHA, really just gotta wipe half of each cowmunity cowledge

asciilifeform: this here is separate item, where they lately try to get some of the 'collegiate' chumpatronic moolah

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666470 << traditionally there is a chumpatronic component, even in the immediate term : the thing has to 'vest' (if you don't work at $firm for X years, it matches 0 ) ☝︎

erlehmann: asciilifeform where does the tron(ic) suffix come from? versionatron? chumpatronic?

asciilifeform: ( most of the chumpatronic 'wonders of the world' in btc seem to have happened prior to asciilifeform tuning in )

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it remains every bit as chumpatronic even if employer matches 1000%

asciilifeform: but usa, like any mega-empire, had a motivatory idiology for the rubes, and said ideology is sinking, because the necessary chumpatronic rewards are increasingly unavailable.

asciilifeform: and given as the good being sold is fundamentally chumpatronic, not mega-surprise.

asciilifeform: 'The Boeing-manufactured bomber has been flying since 1952 and is expected to remain operating until around 2040, depending on when it is fully replaced by the Northrop Grumman’s B-21. ' << b21 is the bomberized chumpatronic equiv. of the mega-imaginary f35. ~21 bil. usd already contracted, in 2015! for delivery in.. 2040.

asciilifeform: is it possible that there are 'two chinas', one healthy, that makes gear for self - pencils, jet fighters, et al, and one diseased, that is in any possible light really part of the american chumpatronic system, that uses up valuable resourced & labour to make plastic orange pumpking for halloween decorations in usa, ipnohe, etc. ?

mircea_popescu: obviously it depends what you mean by "actual". if you mean nude object, then sure, any dollars that made their way to venus may be appreciated aesthetically by the venusians, and therefore they weren't really intrinsically chumpatronic. but in the system as it is, defined historically and therefore enclosed, it can be said the zil-buying ability is a paritcular property of rubles q rubles.

mircea_popescu: trivial to show there's degrees of chumpatronic-ness of "money". take dollars as cash : they can be spent (while supplies last), they're basically equivalent to one of those coupons.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sort that moves the vax etc is by far the most chumpatronic.

asciilifeform: so it is not as if this particular batch of monopoly money were somehow ~more~ chumpatronic than the usual.

a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element

asciilifeform: it is an almost inevitable thing, per the familiar chumpatronic model (consider fiatola 'middle class' fella trying to evaluate his net worth, sitting in a pile of bezzles of 1,001 types)

asciilifeform: but the 'bitcoin == scam' isn't even wholly unreasonable for aboriginal whose entire experience of 'electronic money' has been chumpatronic

assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element

asciilifeform: with the specific chumpatronic purpose of distracting from the nature of the turd thereby.

asciilifeform: i.e. quite like a gossipd designed at ft meade for chumpatronic purposes

ascii_field: i get the chumpatronic aspect, but find it hard to believe that anyone could be fooled

asciilifeform: but he decided, for some chumpatronic reason, to pretend that it is a 'leaking fiber'

ascii_field: 'i'm on arsebook, but i have a brain!' 'good work, now arsebook can say, 'some of our users have brains!'' lubing up the chumpatronic intake hopper.

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, today i went into a shop and saw a type of chumpatronic contrivance for which i do not know the name:

mircea_popescu: basically the situation is, the chumpatronic engineering progresses much faster than the chumps.

ascii_field: other thing is, the 'art college of art' chumpatronic sector has been edging into competition with the officially-blessed prestige-sellers

asciilifeform: even some of the most bitterly chumpatronic drm-encrusted turd formats aren't paginated

asciilifeform: i must note that the firm has a lengthy history of chumpatronic shenanigans

mircea_popescu: similarly the entertainment racket creates the superficial chumpatronic appearance that some chicks "have it easy"

asciilifeform: the academia racket does create a superficial chumpatronic appearance that some folks are 'paid to think'

assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 15:04:08; asciilifeform: anyway this should be enough lure for everybody. mega-lulzy tirade. if chumpatronic, it is of top quality and i take off my hat to the chumpatronicist.

asciilifeform: anyway this should be enough lure for everybody. mega-lulzy tirade. if chumpatronic, it is of top quality and i take off my hat to the chumpatronicist.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: speaking from the chumpatronic jail here, just about any schmuck can get at least 5 digits of loansharkamatic without breaking a sweat

decimation: w.r.t. home builders, any home that's younger than 30-40 years has been built in a carefully-managed chumpatronic environment

asciilifeform: Cheap Smartphone Dongle Diagnoses HIV And Syphilis In 15 Minutes << sham. not in that the tech doesn't work (it does) but in that it is the ordinary single-shot immunoreactive test, but for some (chumpatronic) reason someone bolted it on to a pNohe.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: kickstarter article: ks is straight from the encyclopaedia of chumpatronic circuits, chapter 'make use of chumps directly in the machine’s control system.' as in 'multi-level' crapolade of every variety.

asciilifeform sometimes wonders whether that product category would exist - and what it would cost if it did - if there were not a built-in chumpatronic collector

asciilifeform: 'multisig' is yet another chumpatronic engineering structural element, just as nlocktime is (see link)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...see how many COUPONS you find. to "save" generally 5-10 bux << popular chumpatronic device in usa, but fading on accout of the demise of dead tree newspapers

asciilifeform: if question specifically concerns 'animal magnetism' - difficult to answer. most of the chumpatronic work involved, i doubt would win from this stratagem. i, for instance, have never (to my knowledge) been within musket distance of a live cryptographer (of whatever variety)

asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: for purposes of chumpatronic engineering, it does indeed matter whether the chump needs a leash, coaxing, or mere suggestion to jump into the hopper.

asciilifeform: this doesn't even tough upon the very special chumpatronic clients who are admitted, to flounder about in 7+ years of too-precious-to-flunk limbo.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're thinking of a sequel, might be interesting to go into the biological hooks made use of by a qualified ce (chumpatronic engineer)

decimation: note that some chumpatronic engineers have actually used kickstarter to found successful business, but this is like trying to use panhandling to found a banking empire

asciilifeform: nobodies who got in in 2013... meagre disposable income already made it impossible for them to matter << not so simple. chumpatronic engineers, malware artists, etc. who got in 2013 (or even today) can still accumulate enough to build plenty of falling skyscrapers

asciilifeform surprised the various chumpatronic engineers who push 'amazing! web based stock trading' crud haven't come out with one yet

asciilifeform: so this is likely to attract chumpatronic engineers like shit/flies

asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: a team of chumpatronic engineers is working around the clock to fix this.