assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00085861 = 20.5637 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: or alternatively i could hire twenty cocksucking "masseuses" for like 12 btc a season and have the porniest pro sports team in da werld
peterl: didnt the "lingerie leauge" or whatever they call it try that?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, Sauget Illinois is pretty much strip clubs and nothing else
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That actually isn't far from the truth
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: whee, it works!!!!!
mircea_popescu: line betting is essentially someone getting in between bitbet and the luser, offering "services" and other customer supports.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i don't mean this stylistically. it is factually and quite mathematically exact.
copumpkin: what are these strange cxbtc things I have
mircea_popescu: copumpkin well if you had smpoe and didn't log in for a year you prolly got a buncha divs and whatnot
copumpkin: MPOE is by far the best investment I've ever made if you count how much I paid for it and how much it has grown and BTC has grown
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: SPorts betting at its essence boild down to finding players and ownership groups with such animosity towards one another that throwing the game isn't and option.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you can find a buncha daytrading lokhs that know way better.
mircea_popescu: "so far my best investment was, buy some mpex stocks and not logging in for a year"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0424 = 0.848 BTC [-]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: oh, I'm an index fund kinda guy, and I scoff at daytraders
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It can be. While winning a bet is the best outcome, the best expectable outcome is betting on a game that provides a decent "sweat"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00085885 = 10.8645 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a quite legitimate business endeavour. mpex is designed so that people can make their own brokerages and serve demographics on top of it.
mircea_popescu: bitbet is so made that people can run their own line books backed on it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59909839 = 2.9955 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00479 = 0.479 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: course, this shit takes professionalism (of the actual kind), so there's not that much being done so far.
peterl: copumkin: great way to invest if you have the patience to not get in your own way
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The nature of how baseball works lends a lot of games to beign interesting sweats. Less so with hockey, still far less with Handegg, and almost never does an interesting sweat come from basketball.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Intrinsic facts in this ordering.
BingoBoingo: Baseball's offense is based on an action that at best succeeds 1/3 of the time.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0056745 = 0.1873 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Hockey similarly relys on accidental scoring.
BingoBoingo: With Handegg, generally there is a better team and that team wins.
peterl: I seem to remember reading that good baseball teams lose to bad teams more often than good basketball teams lose to bad teams
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02142205 = 0.557 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 735 @ 0.00475315 = 3.4936 BTC [-] {12}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amusingly, i just rewatched every given sunday earlier
kakobrekla: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: Yeah. Randomness makes more Interesting bets. < that explains the just dice!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In the movie. IRL the dolphins at that level.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: The difference is dice players aren't patient enough to wait two hours to find out how they rolled.
mircea_popescu: " According to the 1999 Gambling Impact Study, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion was illegally bet each year on sporting events in the United States. This estimate dwarfed the $2.5 billion legally bet each year in Nevada"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00469999 = 0.5875 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "The CEO of Reddit has personally gone to bitcointalk to warn users to not invest in an IPO coin "Redditcoin" and warn they will take action if it is released."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, Nevada has no professional teams
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that technology would basically be... imagine if poor people had no money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "It is of negative survival value in the context of financial collapse." << this is strictly untrue.
mircea_popescu: trustfulness is actually always positive, and much more so in stressed environments.
ThickAsThieves: so there's some kinda chatter about some bitcoin news tomorrow
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just ver & co trying to wash the foundation thing.
ozbot: Twitter / niccary: This is going to be an exciting ...
mircea_popescu: two sets of chumps, separated by semipermeable membrane. on left, trustfull, on right untrustful chumps.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1774 @ 0.00460426 = 8.168 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: simple minded sociopaths arise in both compartments with the same, god dictated frequency.
mircea_popescu: sociopath on trustful side easily and frictionlessly builds army, wipes other side.
mike_c: haha. from that twitter page: "@niccary @marketmakers @Bloomberg @blockchain did the price of #bitcoin go up as to insider trading?"
mircea_popescu: sociopath on trustless side wastes all his time being paul fucking atreides, wasting his time fighting the freemen leaders.
mike_c: insider trading on bitcoin!!
mike_c: moar regulations please
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.02216199 = 1.1081 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5801 = 1.1602 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00567493 = 0.1078 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but it is not actually sociopathic to kill the trustful.
mircea_popescu: basically, the story here is that statistically, the trustfull will fare better.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the strategy of the woman that goes "i like you, fuck me please" actually beats into shit the strategy of the woman that plays the aloof wallflower.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02219999 = 0.2886 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00085885 = 19.7106 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: as counterintuitive and mother-in-law-wisdom contradictory this may seem.
cazalla: wonder if gox actually deleted account and personal details as they said they would after 90 days (from memory i was 90)
mike_c: cazalla: do you really wonder?
BingoBoingo: I will write this n00b guide to sports bets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00459999 = 0.92 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00567494 = 0.1702 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: And in the process teach people how to only lose 30% pr year
ThickAsThieves: "Iceland’s Auroracoin Passes Litecoin, Becomes Third Largest Altcoin by Market Cap" coindesk...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00459 = 0.2341 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: enky says "Auroracoin is premined, it doesnt make sense to look the marketcap"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that part is true. but it was not capable of useful work.
mircea_popescu: compare for better results the fate of various subhuman tribes encountered by europeans.
mircea_popescu: the ones that failed to suck cock rapidly, eagerly and well are now extinct.
mircea_popescu: aztecs made hernan cortes king. aztecs still exist today. sioux though it proper to oppose. sioux are gone.
BingoBoingo: Well in that case the ones who never encountered small pox before are equally extinct.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: didn't you have something about popescuity at some point?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin yeah it was a signed message in like... 2011 ?
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: damn, I'm out of date :(
ThickAsThieves: so i posted the link to The Last Question on facebook, and it only got Likes from jesus lovers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00562006 = 0.1124 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Aztec descendents survived on their women's lubrication and in that course became something different. Sioux staying pure now merely sell gas for $6 per gallon to people who can't stay on the interstate.
mircea_popescu: so i've been reading stan's last post for the past fucking hour, becase you people are killing any shred of productivity.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i kinda count "Becoming something different" as survival.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1742 @ 0.00459 = 7.9958 BTC [-]
cazalla: mike_c: not really :\ i am hopeful they did delete my ID as they said they would after i closed my account
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well it counts as personal survival, but not cultural survival. It's a mindset. A flawed one. But it is the one dominant on this continent in spite of wrongness.
mircea_popescu: cazalla all that hopeful and five dollars buys you a cup of coffee.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shitty cultures aren't going to survive anyway.
mircea_popescu: people took 25k years to come up with... pottery ? fuck them, you don't even want that shit to survive.
mircea_popescu: kind-of why the only thought the collapse of the us evokes in my head is... well... good riddance.
mircea_popescu: i'd much more regret the russians should they go, even as they've been unmitigated assholes their entire history.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The bigger problem is they had buffalo that many years and never managed to turn them into cows.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo some argument can be brought that a relative lack of readily available iron made them kind-of stone-age-bound 4ever.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00459 = 0.8996 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: The problem was they used Iron to shape flint and not the right way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.0046 = 0.1886 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Still an interesting alternate history it would be if the filthy spanish did not small pox the continent and therby give the English the chance to colonize
mircea_popescu: just as long as they made some tenochtitlan steel sabres cca 1300
BingoBoingo: I some alternate history Ohio could have been the real Afghanistan
mircea_popescu: "if you give that fucking nimrod 1500 i'll shoot him on general principle"
ozbot: Transactions | Frontier League
BingoBoingo: Seriously the formula should be buy a frontier league team, hire some MLB players
mircea_popescu: Sauget was incorporated as "Monsanto" in 1926. It was formed to provide a liberal regulatory environment and low taxes for the Monsanto chemical plants at a time when local jurisdictions had most of the responsibility for environmental rules. It was renamed in honor of Leo Sauget, its first Village President
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, No one but Monsanto and strip clubs actually are in the city limits
BingoBoingo: Well they haven't had a mayor not named Sauget in nearly a century
mircea_popescu: The Monsanto plant in Sauget was also home to a serious accident in January 1992 when worker Charles Pritchett was critically hurt. Pritchett was caught in an auger used for moving small materials and shredding rubber. He was stuck in the auger for five hours while officials attempted to extract him. Pritchett was in a coma for three months and pronounced dead twice. Pritchett's leg was eventually amputated due to infe
mircea_popescu: ction and the severity of the mutilation. Judge C. Glenn Stevens awarded the man $16,000,000 in 1993 to compensate him. To satisfy the judgment, the Midwest Rubber Reclaiming plant and equipment owned by the Monsanto Corporation was sold at auction in August 1993. The site has since been leveled with no future prospects for development.
BingoBoingo: herp, It was reclaimed for still more strip clubs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00086013 = 31.2227 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Depends on the tits and how not black she is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09099433 = 0.273 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: hundreds a night if she's fat and black, thousands if the ain's fat and lighter. White C cup would prolly work in Caseyville where the money is better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0046 = 0.1426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00085996 = 7.3527 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: need moar #womenintech, because currently they're not fucktarded enough to work really long hours doing relaly anyoing shit for very little money.
mircea_popescu: fact : the ~average~ entrepreneur will not have made by age 40 as much money as the average hs floozie working the stripping joints in saget, il made.
BingoBoingo: Cause they only make 4x what then men driving the trucks make
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Most of those floozies make more than the doctors that patronize them make
BingoBoingo: Once they turn 30 some horses at Fairmount park sell their jizz for more than the floozie's going rate.
mircea_popescu: "I move that MPOE-PR be appointed supreme dictator of the Bitcoin Foundation.
mircea_popescu: Hopefully these will be the first orders of business: dissolve, disband, liquidate."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Does Hanna have thoughts on these developments? Other than "finally" and oter breif quips?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.00469999 = 1.1233 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9004 @ 0.00086034 = 7.7465 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Eh, I don't go on Bitcointalk that often anymoar
BingoBoingo: I also have to do this paper on n00b sportbetting for asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: And find ALL of the satoshi communications
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, n00bs don't read -assets so I might as well write it for them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0047 = 0.3619 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 436 @ 0.0047 = 2.0492 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The last time the Chicago Cubs won a World Series, the Ottoman Empire still existed."
BingoBoingo: And that is why I try not to travel futher north than I-70
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22230 @ 0.00086215 = 19.1656 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: And Cubs fans drink this swill called "Old Style" which isn't strong enough to be a malt liquor or palatable enough to be a beer.
BingoBoingo: As I write the noob sports betting article, I'd like to open a quick survey. What team would people pick to take the World Series this year?
mircea_popescu: check that out, they only got 1% ish respond to mobilization orders ?
mircea_popescu: people all derping around about war. if a general mobilization order issued by the ukraine is ignored so, who the fuck is going to go to war ? france ?
mircea_popescu: maybe if they make the war 4 hours a day and everyone the same height.
ozbot: BMO customer's account emptied of $87K as bank falls for scam - British Columbia - CBC News
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: When I wrote the electric boogaloo bet, France's boots were the ones I imagined solving it as Yes
nubbins`: BMO = canada's 4th-largest bank
BingoBoingo: Nah, Players as old as big Pappi don't get consecutive good seasons
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: And this is why you follow AsicMiner and not things more interesting to drink to.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: And your lack of drinking is why you care about shit like ASICMiner
ThickAsThieves: once i fell out of it, it just makes me sleepy and feel crappy
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Building a habit takes work
BingoBoingo: For some reason I suspect your 20's weren't very roaring...
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Maybe it is time to see what Abercrombie tastes like?
mircea_popescu: how the hell does that work ? just because he dislikes the usg ?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: I'm still out on bail since last spring
mircea_popescu: but it can't seriously be contemplated ukrainians'd fare better under putin than under merkel
ozbot: How 'synthetic' identity fraud costs Canada $1B a year - Canada - CBC News
BingoBoingo: Oh, In simple western terms mircea_popescu takes a 180 from IRC mircea
nubbins`: "In one case, Kelly suspects the person used in the scheme had poor English skills and, through miscommunication, wrote down what he believed was the fake name he was supposed to use, which was apparently flashing across his computer screen. This fake identity went on to have an effective credit rating, a driver’s licence, bank accounts, a telephone and an apartment (with renter’s insurance). And
nubbins`: all under the name: Server Froze."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Twitter you sounds rather pro-Putin IRC you sounds rather fuck everybody. Unfortunatly people miss the Trilema you fuck everybody needs to be literal
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i'm not pro putin in any sense. it's just that most of the people ending up in my feed are english speaking propaganda agents
nubbins`: wouldn't be able to take the guy seriously if he wasn't such a fucking hardass
mircea_popescu: why can't he just make an altcoin like any well behaved scammer and fade into the bitbucket.
BingoBoingo: Well, it is important to remember that a lot of what made Reagan Reaganesque was his Buffet like dementia
mircea_popescu: what examples do we have ? hungary, slovenia, slovakia, czech, poland, romania, bulgaria, take your pick ?
mircea_popescu: all these countries re-industrialised after the soviet collapse.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For values of first not == Mongols
mircea_popescu: romania finished 2 nucelar reactors that the soviets/local commies tried to get going for 15 years, and now exports electricity.
mircea_popescu: i mean... some geographical zones will just die out if trade barriers go away
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't say washington wrecked detroit per se would you /
mircea_popescu: well because in that sense you could as well say i did it.
kakobrekla: >BitcoinNotBombs co-founder Davi Barker was stopped in the Manchester, NH airport by TSA agents demanding to search is bags for Bitcoins. Barker was traveling with Bitcoin related merchandise, namely metal pins with Bitcoin labels on them, which he believes is what confused the TSA agents, who didn’t seem to understand what Bitcoin actually is. Barker was eventually allowed to continue to his flight.
BingoBoingo: Detroit would be thriving if that false flag agent did not smash Patton with a jeep
ozbot: bitcoin - Wolfram|Alpha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07500001 = 0.15 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla honestly the thing reads to me like attentionseeking behaviour.
ThickAsThieves: "The purpose of this wallet is to provide cold storage level security with close to web wallet convenience."
mircea_popescu: so the customs searched his bags. it's what customs do.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Japan doesn't count. Fake Gox BTC, Fake COuntry
mircea_popescu: they're not obliged nor reasonably expected to go "o heh heh bitcoin heh heh" just so random beavis feels tehy connected.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah well afaik toyota etc is what sunk detroit.
kakobrekla: i cant judge whats true or whats not just whats written
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and as far as parasites go... russia definitely takes the cake. their (putin's) recovery model pretty much relies on parasites
kakobrekla: it does remind me of nefarios travel to usa though.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well unlike McArthur Patton was good at being crazy good at his job.
mircea_popescu: "i have 38 dollars, 15 pakistani liras, scottish food stamps and i will be here one month but is all ok"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform none of them being you know, owners of uk football clubs.
Mats_cd03: im a big fan of tom ricks' view of how the ukraine will turn out
ozbot: Ukraine: Call me a crazy optimist, but I think that in the long run, Putin and his kleptocratic pals
BingoBoingo: We just need to advance civilization to RoboKleptocracy already and be done with it
mod6: arnt we alreday there?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Nah, robots still steal for people. We need robots to steal for the sake of theft being fun
Mats_cd03: a younger, more handsome negro will surely replace him one day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00465108 = 0.1535 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if every able bodied white guy did nothing but rape chinese women from now on to the rest of his life,
BingoBoingo: I dunno china takes order well, also heroin well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.043249 = 0.173 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but that's the point. you'd have to somehow teach them to stop taking order.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, you start an IRL Breaking Bad spinoff, call it "The Real Empire Business" All of a sudden you have a nation of 2 billion central kentucky hillbillies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in stalin's case, the proof is in the picture
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mircea_popescu: how fucking retarded are kids today ? if you're an insider you need to introduce yourself ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Very retarded see 2bitIdjit for deets
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Over 600 since MPOE resolved
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 99 @ 0.0062001 = 0.6138 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: if i fucking have a heart attack "suddenly" you're all screwed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21431 @ 0.00086292 = 18.4932 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00462948 = 0.6666 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: cokea btw, here's a pro tip : using random seven proxies is not enough
cokea: I'm a better troll than that
cokea: Frozenway is a known VPN mircea_popescu
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 29 @ 0.00605506 = 0.1756 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: didn't know non-us countries got 3-letter TLDs
nubbins`: can you imagine the gold rush on that?
BingoBoingo: cokea: So what brings you here? ENlightenment?
nubbins`: 3-letter .derp domain for sale, 5k btc
cokea: viagra spam BingoBoingo
cokea: you got that for me BingoBoingo?
BingoBoingo: cokea: Nah kakobrekla would have caught that.
mircea_popescu: " So, now we are threatening to start World War Three because Russia is trying to control the chaos in a failed state on its border — a state that our own government spooks provoked into failure?"
BingoBoingo: cokea: Sometime I am drunk. SOmetimes I am stupid. You didn't catch me here while drunk, so...
punkman1: mircea_popescu: you can have .derp for like $200k
cokea: BingoBoingo: I'm also mining manually
mircea_popescu: it's like everyone has nothing better to do than ride the hyperbolae.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno. last i visited i had a ton of fun.
btcleak: I got the hottest chili ever BingoBoingo Multivac
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Sound Docking
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, it doesn't seem failed at all to me.
btcleak: I guess I'd be better off scamming tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00086085 = 5.4483 BTC [-]
nubbins`: Multivac: i read a story about you today
btcleak: It comes from the man himself
BingoBoingo: btcleak: THis chan largely gave up on Gox 9 months ago. Unless Gox had a baby we don't much care; unless paternity test.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: i used to know a lot of freaks, some of whom were into sounding (not sound docking)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seeing how i never heard a peep of this until AFTER the troubles, i'd say it's propaganda
BingoBoingo: btcleak: So you have some credentials? SOme history?
btcleak: BingoBoingo: I'm some random guy
btcleak: or else I would make you pay forward for the info not after it happens
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo after one makes /. first page no longer random
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: OMG, BingoBoingo is more real than Firstname Lastname
mircea_popescu: modern agriculture uses soil as substrate, plants are fed oil.
nubbins`: nevermind sartre, read some hugh pickens
btcleak: Sartre is a faggot BingoBoingo
btcleak: and a shitty writer BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: btcleak: Maybe Imma faggot gonna wear your anus around my clit?
btcleak: I am so in love with you that I want to give you the info for free
BingoBoingo: btcleak: I am dealing with a real existential crisis where Immaginary me is bigger than actual me.
BingoBoingo: btcleak: I would like if you gave me your anus and 15 minutes of time to sort out my feelings.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91200 @ 0.00086367 = 78.7667 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: i wonder how the various ws folk will adapt to this chan in the coming years.
btcleak: you mean when bitcoin ponzi disappear?
BingoBoingo: btcleak: Protip: Bing the lube or I'll make the lube
btcleak: lol it will mircea_popescu
btcleak: bitcoin is a shit technology
btcleak: who are the rich faggots here
BingoBoingo: btcleak: What ridiculous tech do you advance? LISP Machines?
btcleak: I need to make a deal regarding my info
mircea_popescu: this kunstler.com thing reads like alex jones in a different cape.
btcleak: BingoBoingo: auto fleshlights
btcleak: mircea_popescu redirect me to the rich folks
ozbot: Ukraine: Council of Ministers of Crimea and Chinese companies agreed to jointly construct a grain te
BingoBoingo: Or in the words of fiddy, get rich or dy trying
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't it a little nutty to extrapolate based on that ?
mircea_popescu: romania has a grain terminal in constanta large enough to ship the ukraine whole
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0008621 = 14.1384 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: btcleak: I may or may not have 300 kbtc. If you offer news that gets a response from me other than nigga, maybe you get 20BTC
ozbot: Why China Wants (and Needs) Foreign Farm Land – News Watch
btcleak: I have a confirmed news that is happening in a 2 weeks time frame
nubbins`: big oil popeline terminates in constanta as well, no?
BingoBoingo: btcleak: Maybe we don't care about foundation jacking off and jizzing?
btcleak: some good shit to be short on
btcleak: who cares of foundation BingoBoingo
nubbins`: btcleak nobody gives a fuck about your news :(
BingoBoingo: btcleak: Id I didn't short in Sept 2009 why would I short nao?
mircea_popescu: ukraine has one of the fucking worst productivities in the world.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Parts of Ukraine have great productivity, other parts suck though. Ukraine is an odd mix of Kansas and Arizona
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, you plow all of the time, even during fallow years
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a difference between fingerfucking and fucking a girl.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5851 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: as long as you don't actually use your knee it doesn't harm her in any way
mircea_popescu: on the face of things this is all sensible, is what i'm saying. i dun see the big threat
BingoBoingo: 2001 was a Chimp war kakobrekla can attest
mircea_popescu: if ngos worked then white chicks wouldn't be raped five times a year on average in south africa today
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo looks like ukraine needs one
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I might have one in the garage. Would you escrow the sale of a monolith to the unidentified gunmen?
BingoBoingo: I need to get rid of this monolith because the squirrels are starting to play nigga golf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4206 @ 0.00086085 = 3.6207 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i tell you, to me this sounds like thje proposition that a bank can provoke a divorce
BingoBoingo: They've gone black, soon they won't come back
BingoBoingo: Also I'd like the garage opener to work instead of returning "err: All of Jupiter's moons are yours except Europa"
BingoBoingo: Fucking it. Imma load up a space trolley full of ford escorts and make parking there
mircea_popescu: is ford escort slang for a black stripper with lobster tail ?
BingoBoingo: When I was in high school an acquainance from the boonies came from a family with a surplus of ford passengar cars.
BingoBoingo: The family did things out of boredom like fit dump truck motors into passenger coupes
BingoBoingo: WHere they turned a ford into a firework barge
BingoBoingo: Even though the kid fit dump truck power in hatchback confines
mircea_popescu: nah this is nuts. there's not going to be any "de-nazifying" of anything, wtf.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Well it was a 94 escort and an 88 F-OMNGWTFBBQ Super DUty
nubbins`: always wanted to hide a muscle car inside a shitbox chassis
nubbins`: man, david byrne doesn't stop singing about food, does he?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: The moral of the story before police get involved is that no, torque alone does not make you fast.
nubbins`: just like the idea of surprises under the hood
nubbins`: whether it be something that can smoke a cop car or something that can tow a fleet of em
BingoBoingo: Well last time I saw him I introduced him to a girl who was good at the dick sucking and wanted to sell a Dodge neon.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You half ass the transmission
mircea_popescu: you know there's a reason detached semi heads are run a certain way
BingoBoingo: The early 1990's though inherited a lot of the ethos of the 1980's where any motor by a company should work with any transmission
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd love to see the hand-made transmission some afficionado made to allow a dump truck engine in his thunderbird
mircea_popescu: because such a thing COULD be done, and it'd probably be awesome.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Do you want me to give you some email addresses?
BingoBoingo: I know someone not on a no fly list who does that for their Demo cars
ozbot: Crisis in South Africa: The shocking practice of 'corrective rape' - aimed at 'curing' lesbians - A
mircea_popescu: "i used to kinda not like doing it with men, but then these dudes fucked me really roughly and now i'm like all fixed"
dub: i've had rough sex with a lesbian
mircea_popescu: "I used to sleep under a bridge, not eat, just cry. I hanged myself; it was on a Monday. I took pills, took alcohol, drank cleaning appliances and then hanged myself. But God said, 'It is not your time'."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So are you asking if someone can deliver to you a thundrbird with a dump truck motor or asking for opinions whether or not it can be done?
dub: she was into it, unkown if it cured her muff addiction
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The one big example I say in person was well before I had a computer with more than two colors on its monitor much less a digital camera.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i imagine because of the limitations of alloys you'd prolly end up with rather complex coggery
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the first example I saw ended its life because the operator insisted on running it on Jet A fuel
nubbins`: she drank cleaning appliances?
MisterE: thought that was a musical insturment
nubbins`: guess it affected her language center
MisterE: drinking bleach is the most retarded thing to do
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Is Romania left or right hand drive?
gribble: bloctoc was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <bloctoc> It will help government determine the size of the bailout required
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00086121 = 12.4014 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So one estimate request got a response already "Depends on the dump truck motor. Are you talking about a standard Volvo or cummins diesel? Or are you talking about a larger super industrial engine? Any motor can be out in any car. All it takes is a torch, welder, and some good math."
mircea_popescu: you probably shouldn't hustle these good people, they probably have productive stuff to do with their tiem
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, if you want a new car to be chauffered in...
nubbins`: just pinging! any luck w/ eulora?
BingoBoingo: I pinged a party with earnest experience in the matter.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So Argentina plan is underway?
mircea_popescu admires how we've picked the most persnickety software stack imaginable, apparently.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00086059 = 26.291 BTC [-] {2}
MisterE: How does a Roma know a word like persnickety?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.006001 = 0.12 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 2015 mp conference won't be in timisoara, that's for sure.
BingoBoingo: Well Bingo Leaks remember Argentine apartements being quoted specificaly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21278 @ 0.00085872 = 18.2718 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12163 @ 0.00085739 = 10.4284 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Well going to South America would make an incredibly torqued T-Bird easier to deliver
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83287 @ 0.00085643 = 71.3295 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: dignork: STFU, none of those people have patches. They could be self defense units.
dignork: BingoBoingo, i know, still funny
BingoBoingo: dignork: Eat a dick, I am waiting for serious news, not more black ops OMGWTFBBQ dickign around.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00085472 = 22.3082 BTC [-] {3}
copumpkin: these MPOE sales aren't me, I promise
copumpkin: just because I have my key back doesn't mean I'm dumping!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: French or Sardinian work. Those new Raphaels are pretty hot shit.
dignork: BingoBoingo, gosh, it was a joke, i have friends on both sides too.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They weren't in Crimea I. French, British or Sardinian, baby that's what I need.
BingoBoingo: dignork: Hard to communicate umor over text without being permissive isn;t it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00466001 = 0.6291 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Turks would be forced into the same role, Black Sea gatekeepers
BingoBoingo: ATM unless Turks decide otherwise the black sea is only for countries with Black sea borders
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 38 @ 0.006 = 0.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04324997 = 0.1297 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Pretty much the same role the Ottmans professed to hold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 187 @ 0.00597994 = 1.1182 BTC [-] {2}
Multivac: According to Deadline, the White House has recommended that the Supreme Court rule against Aereo when broadcasters bring its service to trial this April.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0436663 = 0.131 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: I almost atm respect MRBigg the Ripple and Bearshare shill over Obama
dignork: BingoBoingo, not really, sarcasm is a tricky one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00086187 = 9.8684 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Missouri smells bad and we are tired of being neighbors
mircea_popescu: Multivac hwo the fuck is this white house to "recommend" wtf.
BingoBoingo: Mardigras weekend just happened and everything to the west smells like piss
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02120003 = 0.1696 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In the Ganges river case I'd guess at least 15%
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all surface water has been pissed on average four times
BingoBoingo: Maybe some inbound amonium gets caught in clays, but...
BingoBoingo: Consider the Illinois river is mostly an untreated sewer flowing from Chicago and manages to support sufficient silver carp that baseball bats and armor are the prefered means for fishish them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00085702 = 35.0521 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43492 @ 0.00085456 = 37.1665 BTC [-] {3}
MisterE: Russia has been in control down there forever already
MisterE: they just 'formalizing' it
MisterE: Russians would be just another gang of thugs :p
BingoBoingo: MisterE: You mean they wouldn't outlast the Northside Polaks
MisterE: russia already controlled it
MisterE: what do the Turks have to say?
BingoBoingo: Are the Turks gonna let the Sardinians ty to force Crimea to trade again?
MisterE: I know there's a lot of history there and I don't know enough of it
MisterE: basically lots of stacks of bodies
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46443 @ 0.00085431 = 39.6767 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27844 @ 0.0008541 = 23.7816 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:16f67849951a6df2a9d019751e36e2526e1fc6309219382aedc8d87e
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
BingoBoingo: Watching Karl Urban in Almost Human I have to wonder... Why not just a Judge Dread serial?
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 14170 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 762.97 mio bets, 5.06 mio BTC wagered
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085369 / 0.00085835 / 0.00086433 (1018179 shares, 873.96 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00086217 / 0.00088851 (8430211 shares, 7,268.32 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087418 / 0.00094153 (29592229 shares, 25,868.96 BTC)
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.0008541 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00543999 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {5}
benkay: walk softly and carry a bitcoin stick.
ozbot: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
BingoBoingo: Trickens because BTC in itself now has gotten boring
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.0008493 = 20.2558 BTC [-] {2}
cokea: i was quoted by the WSJ for a troll post
Multivac: Alert! Alert! MPOE-PR trying to destroy the Bitcoin!
diametric: asciilifeform: finally found some pods for those logic analyzers i got.
diametric: ebay, some showed up finally, though almost all of them are way overpriced. $50-$150, found one for $10 though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00466023 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: I own two of these beautiful machines
diametric: well until i get it hopefully next week
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59988989 = 1.1998 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: speaking of tools, still need my oscilloscope?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44298 @ 0.00084722 = 37.5302 BTC [-]
ozbot: The Inside Story of Mt. Gox, Bitcoin's $460 Million Disaster | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
KRS-One: look at that stupid look on his fucking face
BingoBoingo: Eh, My hometown was almsot genecided during the Great war.
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW
Duffer1: bitcoin foundation donation address
Duffer1: i'm actually surprised they got less than labcoin
BingoBoingo: Also Duffer1 It is Monday, why are you not streaming Archer and watching a better alternate reality future for 'Murica?
Duffer1: i'm never sure when it's on, i always watch later
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00466051 = 0.233 BTC [+]
ozbot: Giant Virus Resurrected from Permafrost After 30,000 Years - Yahoo News
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Quiet, we are trying to hook Mircea up with a monster hotrod
MisterE: that rod is for insertion...
MisterE: you sure you're doing it the right way?
BingoBoingo: Insertion, where I dun care, he has more experience in this I supposed a dude who could put dumptrucks in ford escorts. He wanted dumptruck motors in a ThunerBird, and Imma trying to get the hillbilly's email.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.599945 = 1.1999 BTC [+] {2}
gesell1: did anyone try to call MTgox today?
Duffer1: i almost lawld but i didn't want to offend anyone who might have lost out :(
BingoBoingo: gesell1: They had no information of @MagicalTux's cup size if that is the info you wanted
gesell1: BingoBoingo: I'm just curious in general what the support phone actually is
mircea_popescu: gesell1 there was a pastebin earlier with everyone's phones
gesell1: mircea_popescu: but there was a press release on mtgox with the support phone number
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Incredibly, and just a bit too tipsy to hit publish on the sports betting for n00bs post even though I wrote most of it in chan
BingoBoingo: gesell1: The support line is a girl speaking Ingrish. Might as well go to latestrip.com where the Ingrish girls show tits
jcpham: just because mtgox says you owned bitcoins it doesn't really mean you owned them
BingoBoingo: gesell1: As mircea_popescu pointed out though I am bored
BingoBoingo: So jcpham you realize talking gox drama here is just a huge circle jerk for anyone other than Luke-Jr
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Where I spent dollars I should have spent on BTC
cokea: #bitcointraders if you're bored BingoBoingo
Multivac: from the Karpeles article comments: "Mark is a member of Mensa, well that says it all. I work with a guy who claims to be a Mensa member, he's the biggest jackass I have ever encountered. But if you want to know how smart he is, just ask he'll tell you about it, all day long."
BingoBoingo: And Anand... was prolly actually the best champion in a long time.
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Mensa is nothing, I qualified for that bullshit
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's actually a sort of bitcoin foundation, huh.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know, he flys that everywhere now.
Multivac: I never met someone that said they were Mensa that wasn't degenerate.
BingoBoingo: Multivac: I am a total degenerate, out on bail at this moment, I still think Mensa is too white trash
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Disorderly conduct, Which I find a moral imperative
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Imma not that in shape, unless the car is a fiero
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all the excitement i can take in one day. take care all
Multivac: Insufficient data to break a bitcoin.
BingoBoingo: It works though because I have a great drive through lawyer who simply pushes for extensions to the courtdate.
BingoBoingo: If he ever doesn't get the extension renewed he calls me and I walk to Mexico
Multivac: You can't escape entropy BingoBoingo.
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Wait, are you the mysterious until they started physical coins, smoothie?
BingoBoingo: In that case I would have to thank you for the lulz
ozbot: ModMyPi | UPiS Advanced - Uninterruptible Power Intelligent Supply
Mats_cd03: > The UPiS is an Intelligent Uninterruptible Power Suppl
Multivac: They really have done nothing.
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Well they exposed well meaning and ignorant prospects to litigation.
Multivac: Summary: TBF said some shit and threw some money around.
Multivac: Coinpunk still has its hand out.
BingoBoingo: WTFOMGBBQ was Coinpunk anyways, I though TSR handled that
Multivac: It is a web wallet pretending to be an iPhone app.
ozbot: YOGA PANTS PRANK - YouTube
BingoBoingo: Multivac: You know of any reputable web advertising platforms that pay site owners BTC?
BingoBoingo: I tired one for two weeks and it was forced into scam
Multivac: Does not compute. Do you mean affiliate marketing shit?
BingoBoingo: And I do mean tired over tried. It is now as worn as some dude's mom.
BingoBoingo: Multivac: I mean a tool where I can sell x by y pixels in my sidebar
Mats_cd03: theres only one ad player in the game and they dont do btc
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: If you even say that player is Google
BingoBoingo: And I would like to monetize a section of the sidebar
Multivac: i like some of the ads at kat.ph
Mats_cd03: it poops on my brain each time i recall that 99% of GOOG profitable revenue is from ads
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00084432 = 12.1582 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Multivac: I can load the Gif, but for some reason the cert is untrustable
Multivac: go to kat.ph and reload til you get the ad of girl jiggling but
BingoBoingo: Carlos Martinez had a wall of twitter favorites that was nothing but pink expressed by girls of a rainbow of colors
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Are you insinuating you aren't a pig like the rest of us?
Multivac: No, I'm just my own kinda pig.
Multivac: a flurry of crotch shots is just not my preference
Multivac: Well i do have an abrupt onset of white beard hairs
BingoBoingo: What would I know, allegedly being a criminal and all of that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05000008 = 0.35 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Yeah misdemeanor charge, but fighting it, because it is necessary
BingoBoingo: Multivac: Nah, vanilla disorderly conduct.
BingoBoingo: I am not brave enough to drive under the influence
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00497401 = 0.4477 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00084196 = 18.06 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00481471 = 0.6644 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00481 = 0.2646 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Oh, the difference between me an 2013 Bitcoin bastards is I come with my dirty laundry up front
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 72 @ 0.00567298 = 0.4085 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59999249 = 2.4 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00083947 = 14.7747 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00083881 = 3.6908 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: So, morel of the story, NBC is way to full of itself in its previews
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00540006 = 0.1404 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Imma still kind of wrapping my head around BingoBoingo being a bigger name than legal Firstname and Lastname
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.605 BTC [+]
benkay: this is what i was freaking out about the other night
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1848 @ 0.00017551 = 0.3243 BTC [-] {5}
benkay: how best protect internet keys?
benkay: hey BingoBoingo race you to auth status
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:a4f7750923ee83ec88829bb3fcce45f2fd4308a2fee7efc298ef05a7
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2356 @ 0.00017528 = 0.413 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:340221c995ba650b2eb5528d3edba4b2896f0efbbbc3ed9bdbb7bb49
gribble: You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.
benkay: ;;rate BingoBoingo good sport wot wot
gribble: Error: 'good' is not a valid integer.
benkay: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 good sport wot wot
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2969 @ 0.00017433 = 0.5176 BTC [-] {8}
benkay: so a key to maintaining good crypto hygiene is to use it all the time, right?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Yeah, so many shortcuts if time was known
benkay: so a thing that helps is that your otc link is always the same
benkay: ideally stego is rarely touched tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1543 @ 0.000171 = 0.2639 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2379 @ 0.00017 = 0.4044 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28386 @ 0.0008417 = 23.8925 BTC [+] {3}
dignork: benkay, i could dos you from authing, by reissuing 'eauth benkay'
dignork: but that's not a serious flaw
benkay: i can always demonstrate control of that key to relevant parties, so i'm not convinced
dignork: not through gribble though
BingoBoingo: benkay: Yeah, but that is exactly why Mutually GPG signed contracts are the future
Apocalyptic: <dignork> benkay, i could dos you from authing, by reissuing 'eauth benkay' // only up to a certain point
Apocalyptic: you will then be banned by gribble for like 10 minutes which leaves him time to auth properly
dignork: Apocalyptic, multiple nicks, etc
benkay: it'd be a fun experiment if assbot randomly asked people to auth
benkay: so crypto is dangerous, right? what are the risks of randomly asking people to auth?
benkay: upside is better hygiene via frequent use of tools; downside is...incentives to grow lazy?
dignork: benkay, at some point you'll decrypt you gpg key, so you won;t have to type in the password for each time you auth
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9464 @ 0.00084602 = 8.0067 BTC [+]
benkay: why not just decrypt for every use?
BingoBoingo: I think Altcoin has been too cheap for too long, I'll give it a night or two and maybe I'll act on that thought.
dignork: benkay lost nardware==lost key then
benkay: not following diginork, sorry
benkay: lost hardware == exposed key?
dignork: benkay, if your keys are not crypted, if you loose your hardware, or it gets stolen, somebody get's your keys
dignork: same scenario with crypted keys, he will have to bruteforce them
benkay: sure. best practices come into play with the bruteforcing.
dignork: to sustain bruteforce, keys need to be crypted with long meaningless password, security is hard and boring :(
benkay: ;;google romanian dicelist
jurov: dignork: afaik nobody yet refuted the diceware method (randomly chosen words, easy to remember and still hard to crack)
ozbot: Bruce Schneier passwords fail - serialized delusions
dignork: jurov, easy to remember, but entropy is low, a lot of buttins to punch, broken hands, loss of qualification, death
benkay: anyways, diginork, it sounds like the critique you're leveling is that "people will stoop to holding their keys unencrypted if used frequently"
jurov: did you actually a) try it b) did the math?
jurov: i found even 50 char long passprase easier to type than 15-char gobbledygook
jurov: not to mention remember
benkay: memorability vs entropy
dignork: jurov, my mail account is a phrase, but the only reason i keep it, is that most cases it remembers me via cookies
jurov: they have the same entropy
benkay: it's a more general tradeoff: convenience/security
jurov: that's what nsa wants you to believe
dignork: entropy is lower to a gibberish of comparable length
benkay: i want to use my keys regularly. that entails memorizing an absurd passphrase and using it all the time to forestall neuron rot.
jurov: looks my point gets completely lost agina and again
jurov: benkay just try it, it's easier than it sounds
benkay: oh i agree - forgive me for giving the impression that i think diceware doesn't work
benkay: and diced passphrases are way better than the shorter, random ones
benkay: i've just started waking up in cold sweats, haunted by mpoe-pr's story
jurov: everyone gets all heprderp and then comes schneier "just think of a sentence and use first letters"
jurov: now how hig entropy can *that* have?
jurov: iirc every word in english sentence adds only 4 bits or so...and if one strips if to first letters
jurov: just a disaster bound to happen
jurov: oh what happened to mpoe-pr ???
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0890001 = 0.623 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00016701 = 0.167 BTC [-]
benkay: she wrote a story a while back
benkay: "that which will be delivered" or some such
benkay: i've completely failed to dig it up
jurov: for the competition?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 242 @ 0.00567491 = 1.3733 BTC [+] {6}
benkay: the one about the kid and the keys
benkay: yours gave me no small heebie-jeebies either
ozbot: Shall be Delivered | The Whet
benkay: the "whet" not the "what"
jurov: yes. but hannah's would only work if gpg would be akin to religion... only zealots could think of giving such responsibility to a child
jurov: not to say it's implausible, people can believe in anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1999 @ 0.00016599 = 0.3318 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13001 @ 0.00016094 = 2.0924 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: yeah man how does one teach good crypto hygine to kids?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00084318 = 15.8096 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.07538107 = 3.166 BTC [-] {14}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 404 @ 0.0055 = 2.222 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00084086 = 6.4746 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0048 = 0.1872 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09048 = 0.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.090495 = 0.362 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00084086 = 10.5108 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.090995 = 0.273 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00017898 = 0.8949 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00495352 = 0.6588 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.00495356 = 0.6985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 4,050.17291466 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 810 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.68215411 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 122 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: soo... turns out this was best dividend in s.mpoe history.
mircea_popescu: 428 satoshi on 29-09-12 and 506 satoshi 26-01-13 being the previous highs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07598485 = 0.5319 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.00495354 = 0.4508 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41421 @ 0.00083883 = 34.7452 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: "KAM Analysts have come out and established the opening price for MZC at $1.00 USD as a opening price. "We felt this was a reasonable opening price with the Alt Market the way it is currently, Dogecoin is setting around $1.17 in some exchanges and MAXcoin is still right around $1.28."
mircea_popescu: another "altcoin" with a 349587598437598349534 "mkt cap" ?
punkman: it's auroracoin for indians
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if the "entrepreneur" scum even knows what idea means.
punkman: "During the first phase of the MazaCoin pre-mine, the Traditional Lakota Nation as represented by the BTC Oyate Initiative will pre-mine 25 million MazaCoins as the starting point of a National Crypto-Currency Reserve. This reserve is critical as a symbol of national sovereignty, and vital for the future of MazaCoin. "
mircea_popescu: we need more pianos to catch lots and lots of fingers in
mircea_popescu: i bet you some nigger* fuckwit somewhere thought "o hey, nobody can oppose this SCAM because it'd be raycest!!11"
punkman: yeah I know, been working on my own niggers.txt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00083813 = 12.991 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.608 = 1.216 BTC [+]
punkman: waiting for more lulz from that altcoin marketcap bet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22315 @ 0.00083767 = 18.6926 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00559998 = 0.56 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9365 @ 0.00083687 = 7.8373 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the cuttoff for regs for the april conference is march 15th. there won't be late regs or anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17385 @ 0.00083667 = 14.5455 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04270871 = 0.2563 BTC [-] {5}
gribble: Current Blocks: 288860 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 1443 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3883050502.07 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.76445
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04241428 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00471013 = 0.1036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00083849 = 19.998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00083655 = 28.9446 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25977 @ 0.00083953 = 21.8085 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00470895 = 0.7063 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 627 @ 0.00463136 = 2.9039 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1298 @ 0.0001866 = 0.2422 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: that bitcoin scam foundation thread is really delivering the lels.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 360 @ 0.0055 = 1.98 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00479999 = 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00559998 = 0.1456 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 188 @ 0.00567496 = 1.0669 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: we're in the middle of a debate as to how scammy this is.
ozbot: Satoshi should give away a good chunk of the 1.000.000 btc he has
chetty: there should be an award for the dumbest ideas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6087 = 1.2174 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: darwin award doesn't quite apply to internet
KRS-One: Any rumor that mastercoin is going to save goxcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55007 @ 0.00083292 = 45.8164 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-One: Its about time rainbows were disrupted.
KRS-One: First sinewave, now digital rainbows. Next thing you know cats will sleep with doges.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6099 = 6.099 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 826 @ 0.0008375 = 0.6918 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The thing is, your brain has to be full of prions to think that this "Punked By Obama Supporter" video shows Fox being punked, either that or you're in first grade where the following exchange is considered an awesome practical joke: "I told you my name's Bill, but it's not, it's Will! All this time you thought it was Bill! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" I'd warn that kid he's going to get himself beat up at recess if I wa
mircea_popescu: Imagine you are in the target demo for Fox & Friends (i.e. your ex-husband drives an F150 and your daughter's Nokia is bedazzled), would you feel punked? What would you see in the video? You'd see a wise ass, a self-aggrandizing cynic, a douchebag. So if he's pro-Obama, then the point is obvious: pro-Obama people are idiots. Thanks, Max, you helped the cause.
mircea_popescu: Imagine Gretchen Carlson doing what she should have done if she was smart: kept the interview going longer. "Oh, I'm sorry, Max, we must all be dummies here at Fox because when you told us you were pro-Romney we... just believed it. We do that with the Bible and pre-war intelligence, too, gosh golly. Well, you have a Columbia education and I'm giving you a national platform, why don't you tell us why we're all stupi
mircea_popescu: d here for supporting Romney? Why should we want Obama for a second term? Please, no soundbites you got from twitter." As the kid's head melts like he was staring into the Ark of the Covenant we'd see clearly that he isn't an Obama supporter at all. He may be voting for Obama, I have no idea, but he wasn't there for Obama, he was there for himself under the pretense antagonizing Fox, which is why his main argument
mircea_popescu: was "s'up." Advice for aspiring comics like Max: if you get to go on TV, you should probably prepare some material.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04325 = 0.173 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00083169 = 31.9369 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.042625 = 0.1705 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60001625 = 2.4001 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00083628 = 12.8787 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00567497 = 0.5902 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1983 @ 0.00083083 = 1.6475 BTC [-]
moiety: BingoBoingo, you around?
moiety: mircea_popescu: are you
moiety: i truly wish i made that mircea_popescu
moiety: i wonder who did make it and i wish there were better pictures of the sides
moiety: the set i made, i used half kinder eggs with beer cap crowns for queens lol
moiety: they had googly eyes too... made the game
moiety: i think that's the only chess set you can commit a murder with
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00567498 = 0.2837 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 402 @ 0.00567498 = 2.2813 BTC [+] {3}
moiety: bizarre "only ships within united states" why is it in CAD then
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 40 @ 0.00457976 = 0.1832 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17735 @ 0.00083593 = 14.8252 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "A Kremlin aide was quoted on Tuesday as saying that if the United States were to impose sanctions on Russia over Ukraine, Moscow might be forced to drop the dollar as a reserve currency and refuse to pay off any loans to US banks."
mircea_popescu: suddenly the eu is forced to ALSO drop the dollar because if you can't buy gas from the gazprom with it then what good is it ?
mircea_popescu: putin could just get done with it and declare obama must now spend a week naked in chains pulling the plow under the whip somewhere in rural ukraine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44737 @ 0.00083635 = 37.4158 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: but black slavery is a modern not pre-iron-age phenomena
chetty: 5. The fax machine was invented the same year as the Oregon trail migration.
deadweasel: you have died from from plague. your party died in a river crossing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now we know how the office xeros romp got started.
mircea_popescu: you know i never get you people. i always packed an arsenal of bullets, hunted, got super rich
mircea_popescu: i usually made 3-4x my money by the time i was in oregon
ozbot: 28 Year Old CEO Of Bitcoin Exchange Dead After Possible Suicide | NEWSWATCH
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 95 @ 0.0055 = 0.5225 BTC
punkman: Poloniex hacked, but hackers only took out BTC, didn't care for the altcoins
punkman: "The major problem here is that the auditing and security features were not explicitly looking for negative balances."
punkman: "Because there is not enough BTC to cover everyone's balances, all balances will temporarily be deducted by 12.3%."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 113 @ 0.00574805 = 0.6495 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 505 @ 0.00574406 = 2.9008 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 988 @ 0.00574 = 5.6711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+]
Multivac: haha, derps sell their LTCs for AURs, causing LTC to fal from 25 to 21, then BTCChina lists LTC and it goes to 27
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.0049463 = 1.6817 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00083182 = 8.9837 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00575 = 0.575 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00490999 = 0.1227 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00575 = 0.2875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1495 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ozbot: Russia Attacked? Largest Oil Refinery In Europe Is On Fire In Huge Blaze | Chemtrails
ozbot: Largest Oil Refinery in Europe is on Fire | English Russia
ozbot: German oil refinery fire and explosion | euronews, world news
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42285 @ 0.00083931 = 35.4902 BTC [+] {3}
diametric: Why is in a category called 'chemtrails'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0434999 = 0.1305 BTC [+]
moiety: i don't like shell, but that's awful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00083505 = 24.634 BTC [-]
Rulother: Well we're expecting "big news" from them soon
ozbot: Blockchain.com - Bitcoin Wallet.
nubbins`: judging by the picture of an iphone
nubbins`: i'd say the big news is a functional html5 web wallet
nubbins`: to replace the ios app that got yanked
nubbins`: meh for some, a boon for others
ThickAsThieves: KateCraig: "However, the bigger reason for the delay is that I've been trying to track down an accounting error. My spreadsheet says we should have much more in the h/w reinvestment fund than we actually have in the bank. I believe I've traced the issue to how depreciation was being calculated."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: "Flexcoin, Inc is located in the Alberta, Canada"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00083505 = 8.5175 BTC [-]
azi`: why would anyone use a service described as "bitcoin bank"?
ozbot: Bitcoin bank Flexcoin shuts down after $600,000 theft - Business - CBC News
deadweasel: nice to have a shake-out now and again.
ozbot: flexcoin (flexcoin) on Twitter
nubbins`: feb 25: "We hold zero coins in other companies, exchanges etc. While the MtGox closure is unfortunate, we at Flexcoin have not lost anything."
nubbins`: march 4: "Flexcoin will be shutting its doors."
ThickAsThieves: does LAMP have a way to autclose db connections (of a certain age) across all hosted sites
diametric: ThickAsThieves: its been a while since I've done any PHP code, but all connections get closed if you open them with mysql_connect vs. pconnect
diametric: closed at the end of the session that is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33508 @ 0.00083267 = 27.9011 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00083131 = 22.1128 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: "Make music with the world. "The Cypherfunks" is a decentralized band & cryptocurrency. A new way to make music in the 21st century! The cryptocurrency, enables the new music collective."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.043 = 0.172 BTC [+]
punkman: "Or, in other words, if Satoshi Nakamoto is the Genius Father of Cryptocurrency as an advancement in cryptotechnology, then Thomas Jackson is its Genius Uncle as an advancement in cryptotechnology in world economics."
ozbot: $10M Calif. Gold Coin Hoard Found in Yard May Have Been Stolen From Mint - ABC News
ozbot: Bloomberg TV: Business Live TV - Bloomberg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699996 = 0.154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52950 @ 0.0008303 = 43.9644 BTC [-] {3}
moiety: aww asciilifeform is that the couple who were out walking and found the gold?
moiety: so if they prove its the 1900 heist money, they won't get anything?
moiety: plot twist : there weren't only five cans (i hope)
moiety: i'd be too frightened to open the cans for fear of beasties
ozbot: Official CaVirtex.com Thread
nubbins`: now that's an interesting way to respond
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.043 = 0.559 BTC [+]
nubbins`: <b><i><u>My response</u></i></b>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489979 = 0.2499 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.043 = 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 62 @ 0.043 = 2.666 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it's not the first thing posing as a bank no
nubbins`: hadnt heard of it before today
nubbins`: "flexcoin" "will be" "shutting" its "doors"
ThickAsThieves: hehe obama is announcing new budget from an elementary school
nubbins`: did someone whisper it in his ear while he was reading a story?
nubbins`: followed by a look of utter confusion and a few more paragraphs of story-time?
ozbot: Report slum landlords, Dennis O'Keefe says - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: "O'Keefe said the city will act quickly on complaints once they're received, but if a landlord refuses to allow an inspector into the unit, the city then has to go to court. If an order to clean up a property is then ignored, they would have to go to court again."
nubbins`: report slum landlords, wait two years for solution
nubbins`: meantime, get kicked out of your house
Mats_cd03: any bets on when the next exchange with >1000btc gets robbed
nubbins`: 3 generations back, we were o'keeffe but dropped an o and an f
Duffer1: you mean "robbed" Mats? :P
Mats_cd03: is there a sizable irish pop in cn
nubbins`: most of newfoundland has irish heritage
nubbins`: the rest of canada, not so much
nubbins`: but it is a nation of immigrants, so y'know. pockets everywhere
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00083003 = 10.5414 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: TBF my ancestors came from england, nor ireland.
artifexd: I'm looking to buy some ATC. x-bt and openex orderbooks are too thin. Anybody selling?
artifexd: ;;later tell BingoBoingo I'm trying to buy some ATC. Are you trying to sell?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00574998 = 0.575 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Bloomberg TV: Business Live TV - Bloomberg
ThickAsThieves: facebook is gonna buy drones to provide internet to africa
moiety: is mark spending his xmas money or something lately?
arij: really? when did they buy cm/rtbtc?
Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> so they are opening a trading platform // wait, rtbtc was not just charts ?
mircea_popescu: "Tommie Rice Esti castigator, o PETRECERE de sfarsit de SAPTAMA..."
mircea_popescu: fucktarded romanian spammers. buy spam software, replace the subject/body copy,
arij: rtbtc lets you trade at gox/stamp using the API
mircea_popescu: it totally makes sense some random tommie rice is fluent in romanian
arij wonders what will happen to the bitvps link on clarkmoody
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, this is actually correct romanian. it's nigh on impossible for gt to get 8 words straight.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "like we learned from mp" cary doesn't say
ThickAsThieves: ok zeroblock isnt an independent exchange, just an interfacing platform
wao-ender: these trading platform should rise
ThickAsThieves: i love how now that gox is dead, we don't get 25% price moves after every news tidbit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00082991 = 10.4569 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00485001 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mp says gox is trading with itself, ppl are like oooooookay.
mircea_popescu: then gox goes away and price suddenly is quite stable.
ThickAsThieves: also they shouldve at least rebranded the acquisition site fully
ThickAsThieves: blockchain also shoulda removed this frozen gox chart from clarkmoody lol
ozbot: Bitcoin Data Platform | RTBTC
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05110001 = 0.3066 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485772 = 0.1069 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485 = 0.1067 BTC [-] {3}
deadweasel: it's not recording stats anymore either
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0057498 = 0.575 BTC [-] {2}
deadweasel: they had to use yoru stats to cover the justin beiber run on imgur
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16623 @ 0.00082995 = 13.7963 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00574999 = 0.4255 BTC [+]
Duffer1: I only have likes, do you accept those?
Duffer1: actually i think i have some spare upvotes
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.38356683 BTC to 3`617 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7177 @ 0.00082986 = 5.9559 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14623 @ 0.00083032 = 12.1418 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in today's lol : trilema referrer ronpaulforums.com comes slightly ahead of somethingawful.com
mircea_popescu: not by much and towards the bottom of the pile, but anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: (my article about how to suck cock is still 3rd most read, won't yield that beast)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you were so woefully, drastically and deplorably off the mark with that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60000003 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i have a steak at stake and it's fucking sticking it to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00574999 = 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00082934 = 6.7591 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 676 @ 0.00462569 = 3.127 BTC [-] {8}
ozbot: Hands-on with Apple's CarPlay: when Siri met Ferrari (video)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00082934 = 31.4735 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00083029 = 1.37 BTC [+]
wao-ender: capacitivy wouldnt has that flick buttons
Mats_cd03: looks like a good competitor to the stuff in tesla's cars
wao-ender: but volvo have capacitve one carplay, well
Mats_cd03: im not a scrub that needs haptic feedback
Mats_cd03: its my opinion that good software solves that problem anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think the people targetted actually drive.
mircea_popescu: screen is meant for douche who can't afford a car at all
Mats_cd03: why cant you use a touch screen with a voice button mounted on teh wheel
mircea_popescu: ferrari doesn't sell cars by convincing anyone to buy one
mircea_popescu: ferrari sells cars by convincing poor lithe 20something chicks to blow anyone in a ferrari
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0222 = 0.111 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, is also why all the limited edition crap)
ozbot: Breaking down spending in Obama's budget proposal - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: tyl : veteran affairs cost as much as education or health care. who knew there's a cost to all that jingoism.
mircea_popescu: i guess if you have no economy you can save on environmnetalism
mircea_popescu: uh, they don't get to make fines part of their own budget do they ?
jborkl: as I understand it just the State of Texas lew enforcment takes in a billion a year mainly on weed
mircea_popescu: to me it registers as the #1 item on the list of why the us can't be4 taken seriously as a civilised state.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1222 @ 0.00461526 = 5.6398 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61889947 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61889956 = 1.2378 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07699997 = 0.539 BTC [+] {2}
deadweasel: civilization via wikipedia: Civilization or civilisation (in British English) generally refers to state polities which combine these basic institutions, having one or more of each: a ceremonial centre (a formal gathering place for social and cultural activities), a system of writing, and a city.
deadweasel: not a definition I would have expected.
deadweasel: so in the most useless sense, we are civlised.
deadweasel: now how do we actually define civilisation?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21640 @ 0.00082816 = 17.9214 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699999 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 457 @ 0.00052008 = 0.2377 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61889968 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: deadweasel civilisation is the totality of material productions of an identified primate group.
mircea_popescu: as contrasted with culture, which is the totality of ideal productions of an ~.
mircea_popescu: together culture and civilisation describe privileged wife,
mircea_popescu: quite typical for libertards to get stuck blaming the curb.
deadweasel: i prefer this definition. is somewhat more meaningful
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0896001 = 0.1792 BTC [-]
assbot: It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
nubbins`: My name is Clark Moody, and this is my website. First of all, I love Jesus, and I want you to know him. He has changed my life forever, and His love has the power to change you.
benkay: is that kind of attitude an instant disqualifier for anyone elese?
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082742 / 0.00084681 / 0.00086433 (1685008 shares, 1,426.89 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00085725 / 0.00088723 (8472227 shares, 7,262.89 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087082 / 0.00093912 (29382299 shares, 25,586.83 BTC)
nubbins`: i only finished reading the sentence because my peripheral vision picked it up
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082742 / 0.00084681 / 0.00086433 (1685008 shares, 1,426.89 BTC), 7D: 0.000745 / 0.00085725 / 0.00088723 (8472227 shares, 7,262.89 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00087082 / 0.00093912 (29382299 shares, 25,586.83 BTC)
moiety: yes benkay, so much yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:158cca9962694cd90af05df37425fc2724c92c39cbcaa5b2965f8160
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 189 @ 0.004615 = 0.8722 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: i'm uninterested unless they're yours, mircea_popescu
nubbins`: it's all a spectrum man, don't fight it
benkay: tits in a parking lot are cool, don't get me wrong
benkay: but i seen plenty of that nao
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.0046 = 0.2392 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: mircea_popescu's tits, though, that's an entirely different story.
moiety: mircea_popescu: you have a knack for finding naked girls outside
moiety: lol at least these ones get shoes
BingoBoingo: artifexd: ATM I would not be selling ATC at the current market prices
mircea_popescu: "Also, something of a consensus among military experts has emerged: Ukraine's army can't fight."
moiety: BingoBoingo: there you are i tried to twitter at you
mircea_popescu: once a state makes the comitment of calling a general mobilisaiton and its ignored,
mircea_popescu: sort-of like calling a no confidence vote and not getting any yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.0008303 = 25.2411 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: and incidentally : this is quite instructive for the attentive watcher. with the exception of china and some other asian majors, NOBODY is capable of war.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit that the us could deploy fifty or fifty thousand specially trained idiots.
mircea_popescu: if it comes to war and there's a general mobilisation, the us couldn't gather even ukraine's 1%
mircea_popescu: the entirety of the combatant populace would be "can they just rape us instead ? we'll fuck for peace"
ozbot: The Military Draft
mircea_popescu: anyway. the us is in this position where it has to learn to play second fiddle/cocksucker to the actual powers that be
mircea_popescu: fun fact : thai underage prostitutes also value those among them that can fix smartphones.
mircea_popescu: "Now I know better. The government is in the hands of satanic, globalist traitors who are following a script to destroy America and its people"
deadweasel: nubbins, re: clark moody/jesusIsLord, yes, instant disqualifier
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04261333 = 0.1278 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26046 @ 0.00082709 = 21.5424 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00459999 = 0.897 BTC [-] {2}
artifexd: BingoBoingo At would price would you sell?
mircea_popescu duly notes that asciilifeform takes his harpies well manicured.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Maybe throw out some prices and I'll way yes when one is agreeable?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61944984 = 1.2389 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00465 = 0.1628 BTC [+]
ozbot: BTC Stolen from Poloniex
benkay: suspicious activity monitors: nontrivial to implement.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79200 @ 0.00082516 = 65.3527 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: transactional database transactions: what the hell is that and why would anyone?
mircea_popescu: benkay here's a random thought : as long as you're not running on transactional hardware, your "transactional" db stack is exactly implementable in mysql.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 265 @ 0.00468773 = 1.2422 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: artifexd it's been trading over 100 satoshi since it was invented.
artifexd: I bought 10k this morning for 75 satoshi
ozbot: X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin, Namecoin and Altcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6265 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00475 = 0.475 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm on x-bt as well. For an OTC trade I dunno if I can sell for less than 200 satoshis seeing how thin the asks are.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo suppose i send you a btc so you can put a buywall at 100 in ?
moiety: asciilifeform: flippin' heck! @ the captcha
artifexd: The asks are thin. I'd be willing to do a million for 150 satoshi each.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Let me auth and I can sell 75000 at 150 satoshis per
gribble: Nick 'artifexd', with hostmask 'artifexd!~artifexd@unaffiliated/artifexd', is identified as user 'artifexd', with GPG key id 11D1433947A3327A, key fingerprint 58A4FD3F492F49F5ECEA9D9911D1433947A3327A, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cc40ed3fbc8fef3a0949519122251b4db3bd6e36158af2dc2c7b9ab1
gribble: You are now authenticated for user BingoBoingo with key 309BB8D7F3251143
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33740 @ 0.00082443 = 27.8163 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00475002 = 0.2898 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: K, I am still waiting on a confirm on my withdrawal from the exchange
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.00475 = 1.5153 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Anyone mind pointing a Bitfury at ATC for a few minutes?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00479997 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6281 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 50 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
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benkay`: want to do something clever?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00470001 = 0.2538 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.0047 = 1.692 BTC [-] {2}
artifexd: While BingoBoingo has my appreciation for selling ATC to me, my bid for 1,000,000 ATC at 150 satoshis remains open. Thanks BingoBoingo!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35126 @ 0.00082764 = 29.0717 BTC [+] {2}
artifexd: eh. not really. 2 million is me.
artifexd: Wait. No. Only 500k of the 1.5 mn is me.
artifexd: So, I only have 1mn in bids up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.05107333 = 1.5322 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.051 = 0.204 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.03636431 = 1.2728 BTC [-] {7}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 84 @ 0.03187883 = 2.6778 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-One: that girl is thick but looks damn good
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.02511115 = 0.3767 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.63140501 = 3.7884 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK:COG] 1D: 0.02511115 / 0.0371273 / 0.05110001 (181 shares, 6.72004135 BTC), 7D: 0.02511115 / 0.04444576 / 0.08388999 (514 shares, 22.84512193 BTC), 30D: 0.02511115 / 0.06244861 / 0.11980000 (1662 shares, 103.78959078 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.02512 = 0.1256 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: getting a surprising amount of traction on casascius coins this past week
artifexd: nubbins` What's a series 1 with error running for nowadays?
nubbins`: all of the series 1s have errors ;)
nubbins`: if you mean a 1btc brass series 1, anywhere from 2.5btc to 5btc
nubbins`: fun fact, the 2011 1btc series-2 (non-error) are much harder to find
nubbins`: yet they command a lower premium
nubbins`: the problem with saving them for a decade is that i don't think the btc premium will hold up
mircea_popescu: someone should make a site allowing the pedigree of coins to be traced
nubbins`: i've got pgp-signed documents from casascius stating my fingerprint and the serials of the coins i bought from him
nubbins`: i've been offering to extend the chain of custody with every sale
nubbins`: i think one person has taken me up on it so far
nubbins`: in my experience, most people who collect casascius coins don't know shit about coin collecting in general
nubbins`: it's very, very common to see people determining resale value based on face value ("3x face" etc)
mircea_popescu: take it the other way : the more you put into educating market, the sooner you'll have an educated market.
nubbins`: i've been trying, it's an uphill battle
mircea_popescu: your efforts explode exponentially, the fact you put in some sane structure today attracts wall street tomorrow
mircea_popescu: and of course a bunch of fuctards who imagine THEY had anything to do with it
mircea_popescu: but all that is plainly indifferent to you. there's no requirement the fucktards know who gaia is.
nubbins`: i honestly feel bad for the people paying 30btc for a 10btc piece because they saw an 0.5btc piece sell for 1.5
ozbot: [WTS] Casascius Series 1 1BTC, 5 BTC, 25 BTC
mircea_popescu: not like they had 20 inches and decided to piss 18 of them away ya know ?
nubbins`: ^ re: face value and resale value
nubbins`: even the good photos are shitty. those things are almost impossible to photograph well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 751 @ 0.0047 = 3.5297 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: cell phone cameras are inadequare
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30631 @ 0.00082649 = 25.3162 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00469999 = 0.3008 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: Even at today's exchange rates, that's a TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLAR premium. For a privately-minted round issued in 2013.
mircea_popescu: Go into a coin store and tell them about this, watch their jaw hit the floor.
mircea_popescu: there's special kits for taking pics of small shiny shit like coins
nubbins`: phone cameras usually have auto-focus as well, which really shits the bed photographing the holos
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah, if you use a bed the advantage is that the focus is fixed
mircea_popescu: and you know VERY well exactly how far off the item is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0762 = 0.1524 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: fun fact, i sold that coin for 5.5btc
nubbins`: "In short, you have NOTHING to worry about."
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nubbins`: "Hiring a lawyer to recoup < 50BTC is idiotic. Lack of practical legal recourse is what makes Bitcoin scamming so attractive."
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: i wish i had to use a glass to hear my neighbours
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "what, you mean just because people could expend highly specialised, intricate work that's usually highly paid for free it doesn't mean they also will?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: gedankenexperiment : cleanning the streets in my town is open source
mircea_popescu: i could be out there scraping gum from the sidewalk at this very moment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.0905256 = 1.0863 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09254285 = 0.6478 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: grumble, no closer to getting keyboard input working in eulora
nubbins`: i wish there was someone else trying this on osx so we could compare notes ;(
nubbins`: [17:15:46] <ProphetDaniel> Hi there gentlemen
nubbins`: [17:15:53] <ProphetDaniel> I'm a newbie over here.
nubbins`: [17:16:35] <ProphetDaniel> And I would like to receive a positive 1 rating for learning the GPG/OTC for BTC
deadweasel: "i opened my box of animal crackers, what did I win?
nubbins`: "i learned how to do my job, where is my raise?"
deadweasel: i exist, therefore rate me a positive 1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.61357 = 1.8407 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60007504 = 2.4003 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1437 BTC [+]
benkay`: everyone's retarded and incapable of doing things
benkay`: wanting ratings for using gpg
benkay`: thinking they're running companies
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: what do you think future revenues look like after the changes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0896002 = 0.448 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00083069 = 24.2146 BTC [+] {2}
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: haven't read backlog yet, has s.bbet divident already been discussed?
mircea_popescu: FabianB_ report published, dividend paid, was there a problem ?
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: i have the feeling i got too much ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0895 = 0.537 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB_: total div divided by 3 mil instead of 10 mil
jurov: how much did you get per share?
mircea_popescu: Mar 04 11:24:30 <assbot>[MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.68215411 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 122 satoshi per share
FabianB_: but i think it should be around 37 satoshi
mircea_popescu: will be charging 2.577507877 BTC against march profits.
benkay`: why does the div command even have a notional float?!
benkay`: it just introduces an opportunity to screw things up.
FabianB_: yeah, since next months div will be better anyway :)
ThickAsThieves: better bet yes on altcoin market cap bet to cover losses
FabianB_: i guess it's the only sane way to move it to next month
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0047387 = 0.2369 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07699997 = 0.154 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: im just slightly distraught that there's no way i can blame this on kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: benkay` but in seriousness : the float in the div command allows 3rd parties to verify the float.
mircea_popescu: as mpex won't let you pay for less than the records show, and you don't want to pay for more.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04299986 = 0.344 BTC [+] {2}
FabianB_: most s.bbet shareholders are longterm anyway
benkay`: didn't you just pay to less than the nominal float?
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.00050531 / 0.000511 (810 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.000616 / 0.00077 (22069 shares, 13.59 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.04389905 = 1.6243 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: basically i paid the entire profit to the 3mn shares outstanding
mircea_popescu: rather than pay 0.3xprofit to the 3mn shares outstanding
benkay`: that thing where you have shares off the exchange
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.0439103 = 0.6147 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04417857 = 0.3092 BTC [+] {3}
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benkay`: these arts are really impressive
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla 0: -0 / +1(1)2013-07-151140 btc CPA contract.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves back in 2012 i think ? kako had an insurance deal on which usagi's cpa paid out
benkay`: BitcoinPropagand: austerity has neat type design, i just don't care about austerity at all.
benkay`: or working class gold at all.
benkay`: ufo for sale is moderately amusing
ThickAsThieves: Tomorrow, 12CT/1ET I'll be giving a powerful speech via Skype adapted from @Falkvinge Stockholm, 2006 freedom demonstration. #TexasBitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00082643 = 37.7679 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Twitter / BBCBreaking: Russia test-fires ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32184 @ 0.00082992 = 26.7101 BTC [+]
benkay`: that'n's per-tic-u-ler-ly lulzy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000021 BTC [+]
ozbot: BitBet - Feeder Cattle Jan 2015 over $250 at any point in 2014
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
moiety: the bitbet i have been waiting for!
pLambert: what is this, a bitbet not based on bitcoin? Absurd!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.58261144 = 6.9913 BTC [-] {8}
moiety: how much do storage containers cost?
benkay`: TEU's run about 1.6KUSD over here, moiety.
benkay`: china ships 'em over and then doesn't want them back.
moiety: ok i have a new grand plan!
moiety: yes you can mircea_popescu in fact, loads of them at once!
mircea_popescu: ps : for the people not doing agrifutures : gf is the code prefix for feeder cattle.
mircea_popescu: moiety yeah well, the poor of india live in containers since the 50s
nubbins`: "a serious document written in red crayon"
pLambert: mircea_popescu: in your statements you keep saying "The P/E implied value per share is so far 0 BTC." What is that going to say when you do have earnings? Do you have a PE value you will calculate an estimated price from?
moiety: i bet they don't look like that mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: moiety there are problems, such as due to lack of foundations.
pLambert: yeah, I know how to get PE, but what is a P/E implied value?
moiety: 6 containers @ 2k each seemed fab idea.. ok i'll stay in my igloo
mircea_popescu: pLambert the implied simply translates the fact that the earnigns and the price signals are averages and so... a guess.
moiety: asciilifeform: couldn't you sort of paint the inside iof it with cement?
moiety: yes but to save having to bury it
moiety: i just feel renting is such bad value
moiety: you qould buy it if you were to live in it though right
moiety: mircea_popescu: exactly! discovering containers aren't really 'up' though now XD
moiety: asciilifeform: there was a couple here built an amazing house and they had to tear it down becauseit didn't qualify
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so move to missouri. you can live in a beer can tower there
ozbot: Couple lose fight to save 'hobbit house' eco-home from demolition - Wales Online
mircea_popescu: The appeal by Megan Williams was dismissed because the 'benefits of the development did not outweigh the harm to the character and appearance of the countryside'.
dub: was thinking about putting something like this behind my place as a bar/bbq kitchen
mircea_popescu: you can build whatever the fuck you please as long as you own the land.
mircea_popescu: romanian friends went to us, bought land, proceeded to build (proper) house
☟︎ dub: I could keep hens here but not a rooster
dub: and pen must be 1m from boundary
mircea_popescu: ended up with a fucking bitter legal fight and eventually left the place with the idea that the us is a pre-modern shithole
mircea_popescu: yeah it was like "i'm shooting this pencilneck" "dude what the fuck do you care about some random us pencilneck. go to peru, build there."
ninjashogun: is anyone here interested in loans? (I'm trying to raisie one as part of bootstrapping my hardware startup)
mircea_popescu: at this rate we'll probably end up with a "no soliciting" rule.
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun you think something magically changed since last week or w/e ?
ninjashogun: last week or w/e I also connected with people. Didn't find the right match. Different people could be in here now.
ninjashogun: likewise, the person that I basically actually have done all the legwork with, shared many forms of contact, etc, and agreed on basic terms - I also met online (different channel.)
mircea_popescu: you misunderstand how things work to an amusing degree.
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ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I don't think a bank loan can be used to finance what I'm doing. If it could there would be no need for angels in the world.
mircea_popescu: nothing can be used to finance what you're doing you fuckwit you.
mircea_popescu: this nonsense whereby you secrete your own fictious world where you're not an idiot in spite of actually being an idiot is unfinanceable.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, well, considering that the startup has already been financed to an extent, your statement is false. Something can't be unfinanceable if it has been financed.
pLambert: mircea_popescu: do we need another trilema post about how things are supposed to work?
mircea_popescu: pLambert no, because kids know better than to read anything anyway
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, because that was over a year ago, and that was to the company.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I would like to bootstrap a bit farther and need to make further milestones that have a nontrivial cost for me.
mircea_popescu: personally i blame the school system. this new idea whereby instead of beating them every time they fail to consult the dictionary upon encountering an unknown world they're encouraged to guess "based on context" what "it might mean"
ninjashogun: to myself, as a personal loan. I would like to do it this way because the company has become much more valuable, has assigned IP assets, etc. It doesn't make sense to raise a small amount of company by the company.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I'd ask you to tone it down a bit.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, at all. to an absolute modicum of minimal function.
gribble: Nick 'ninjashogun', with hostmask 'ninjashogun!~User@212.96.61.236', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no, because the hip thing to do is to come here each week and not wot, and then ask mp to tone it down a bit
mircea_popescu: god forbid anyone ever tells you when you're an idiot.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, yes, like your examples of airplane and particle acccelerator, it is physical hardware. Obviously a plane on a new design would cost millions in R&D, however we just have proprietary educational hardware and have very modest needs (under about $17K)
ninjashogun: which is why I wuold not raise external money for it - it is a small amount I would use as a bridge loan. But your thinking is correct, asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: anyway, taking ideas on how exactly one manages to help the dunning-kruger crowd of entrepreneurs.
jborkl: you would be better off going to the lending subsection on bitcointalk
jborkl: that is where those type of loans reside
nubbins`: ninjashogun if you ident i can provide you with any size loan you need
pLambert: I don't understand, why would you take a personal loan to finance your business instead of having your business get the loan it needs?
mircea_popescu: "Feb 25 08:13:06 <ninjashogun>guys I've received some suggestions to "lurk" and "read logs" here, which I wouldn't really have time to do. It was nice meeting you all though and I may be back as the project progresses. Overall I don't think I will be spending a ton of time building WoT, advisors, etc - as I have real-world references for the moment that I would expect anyone to consutl."
mircea_popescu: you have to be incredibly fucking retarded to go "hey guise, i don't give a shit about you bye"
mircea_popescu: then copme back a week later going "hey guise pls charity ???"
mircea_popescu: you've chosen your road, you're too good to do what you're supposed to do, go do it somewhere else.
pLambert: oh, wait, these things are recorded?
mircea_popescu: pLambert we've not even come to the part where he's taking a BTC denominated loan.
pLambert: getting a BTC loan is easy ... paying it back is the hard part!
BingoBoingo: Want to borrow, 5-10 BTC for gambling. Three month term, will return principle + 10% or list of losing bets << Is this questionable and scammy enough, I also ams not auth'd
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and to top it all off, i actually took the time to point out to him the previous beggar that ended up here drug in by the openbsd story
mircea_popescu: at least that guy had a decent whine about noisy laptops and naked wives in eastern russia
BingoBoingo: Unfortunately he didn't anticipate mircea_popescu's preference whereby wives be naked
mircea_popescu: i wonder what roger ver pays for a list of losing bets
BingoBoingo: The problem with that loan structure known is it is easy to compile hypothetical losing bets after the fact
BingoBoingo: If only Betbet allowed bets open longer than a Year, "Roger Ver to fall under 1 BTC in holding by 2020"
BingoBoingo: Maybe Usagi's Eternal bond can buy into the gambling loan from hell.
mircea_popescu: actually... he's probably in desperate need of a friend.
ozbot: Canada Post says sorry for homophobic-flyer delivery - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
BingoBoingo: I've probably talked mean to him in the past
nubbins`: interesting that they chose that for a headline, rather than "Canada Post now vetting and censoring addressed admail"
nubbins`: guess this means the price of stamps is going up
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ideally they stop delivering admail altogether.
nubbins`: i'd be able to take the "no flyers please" sign off my mailbox
mircea_popescu: perhaps i'm being silly, but i suspect there's actually a hidden barb in there. ie, superficially it seems there's too much money to give in,
mircea_popescu: but if you gave it up suddenly the post office wouldn't be floundering anymore.
mircea_popescu: consider the situation of prostitutes. while fucking random men for money is in fact more income than your average married woman makes on a day by day basis, cash in hand basis
mircea_popescu: nevertheless the net worth, average expenditure etc of married women exceeds that of prostitutes.
mircea_popescu: maybe if the post office quit being a whore it'd actually not go bankrupt every 15 years.
nubbins`: they're trying to phase out home delivery now, and move everyone to neighbourhood "supermailboxes"
nubbins`: the elderly and infirm be damned!
nubbins`: not enough of them in one spot for a queue to be necessary
nubbins`: (do you think flyers still get delivered to that particular box?)
ninjashogun: sorry, nubbins`, just read the backlog now. I was chatting with a couple of people sorry.
nubbins`: ninjashogun: don't worry about it, i was kidding anyway. go fuck yourself
ninjashogun: I don't need 'any size loan' and we could look at the budget breakdown together as well - I would expect it to be based on real world identities and paperwork, not IRC.
BingoBoingo: Those seem to default more frequently than properly structured IRC loans though.
mircea_popescu: ok, which one of you trolls is impersonating satan over here ?
nubbins`: ninjashogun: consider that you might as well be walking into banks asking for a loan and providing your WoT identity
ozbot: spamatron - Pastebin.com
ninjashogun: nubbins` Okay I'll bite. For people with real-world assets and paperwork, what on Earth benefit does ANYONE here get out of a robust WoT system existing?
ninjashogun: nubbins`, why is it a benefit for you that that even exists? (For cases where there is a real world identity behind both sides)
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: Well just this afternoon someone supposed a deal, I took and and the thing was resolved in minutes.
ninjashogun: yeah mircea_popescu, I just heard of an exchange that might have just walked off with millions in deposits, because rather than rely on real world contracts to protect creditors (people who deposit) it just built an online trust model.
BingoBoingo: The used real world contracts to defraud, when they should have implemented a strong trust model
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo - if you trusted a stranger based on a WoT score and resolved a deal in a few minutes, you're very likely going to be scammed one day. It takes far longer than a few minutes to verify someone's identity that you've never met.
nubbins`: you're nothing if not tenacious
nubbins`: i'm not sure how best to express that nobody in this channel will ever, ever give you what you're looking for
nubbins`: almost every regular has tried
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: People don't have a "WoT score" they have personalize networks. The score is the least relevant part of a WoT
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo - trust models can't be programmatic, or they will be games. For example someone will set up $10K just to spend on interest as they do hundreds of transactions with trusted members over a year - the only goal being to be given a $200K transaction that they then walk off with. You can't build trust programmatically.
mircea_popescu: actually, a better expression : over a short week, youv'e gone from some random scum nobody'd consider seriously to someone that everyone would make a point out of never doing any sort of business with. sort of from 0 to -100
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, well, this does not match my impression of conversations off of this channel. You seem to be the only one with a very strong view. I would humbly submit that it is due to your strong interest in one particular financial model. Of course if you start swearing at me people will dislike me.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I've had private conversations that were just fine. It's true that you disagree with my approach and have clout here, you certainly set the tone in here, that's your right.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure everyone here'd manage to feed his children with or without me.
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thestringpuller: lol a lot Diablo 2 players with they could type with one hand
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what are you up to these days anyway ?
mircea_popescu: nah, there's cal3d, which is a gfx library mostly. open source.
mircea_popescu: then there's crystal space, which is a collection of tools including networking and tons of other stuff
mircea_popescu: and i guess moiety. she... hm. hey moiety do you code ?
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ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I've read more of your blogs. I'm curious about one thing. Do you have any investor relationships? (On your financial or exchange site, or whatever it is.) Meaning, do you have external investors of any kind?
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ozbot: S.MPOE takes strategic investor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, your style is 100% different from anything I've seen in my (albeit limited) interaction with business or investors. Your post quotes yourself, saying that you would not announce something publically. You post your own IRC conversation that you intend not to be public :)
mircea_popescu: time is the essence there. everything becomes public eventually.
moiety: mircea_popescu: badly, i'm learning
ninjashogun: is that a 38,625 BTC transaction investing in s.mpoe?
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ozbot: 1 in 10 Americans think HTML is an STD, study finds - latimes.com
moiety: mircea_popescu: javascript, html/css (obv) and i will go into php. i'm scared of the contents page of the python book
mircea_popescu: moiety maybe you're not the sort that learns by books, but work better with examples.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's exactly 10%, which is why i quoted it.
mircea_popescu: "10% of respondents will lie in any study" is the adage of social sciences.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the author eschewed the 10% notation (which is like a symbol by now) for 1 in 10 is kind-of telling
moiety: mircea_popescu: i think you're right, goes in better to see things working rather than a mass of info for me :)
moiety: erm just sites just now ninjashogun i think i'll know what to do more, the more i learn XD
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what does she do, import blockchain ?
ninjashogun: Chapter 1) <h1>Hello</h2> Chapter 2) p {color:black;text-align:center;} Chapter 3) alert("I am an alert box!"); Chapter 4) Putting it all together: Opening your own online exchange
mircea_popescu: moiety you ever managed to compile bitcoin or any altcoin from source ?
moiety: no i haven't attempted it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your project may be outside of what she conveniently approaches.
mircea_popescu: you are possibly the worst pedagogue i have ever seen.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever saw basic look so close to lisp anyway
mircea_popescu: moiety it can possibly be done in javascript i suppose
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, wtf - did you write that basic code?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a wait, this is the source for the markov chain predictor innit
ninjashogun: okay, I'll bite. What does sp and sk and k1 stand for? I'll assume p1 and p2 are two...points...
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, yeah I was just thinking how close that basic looks to Perl. Leaevs you with the same impression :)
mircea_popescu: probably cause it's written by perlispers stuck in a basic body
moiety: you just gave me the answer!
ozbot: Dead soldier gets 1-cent cheque from federal government - Latest Hamilton news - CBC Hamilton
nubbins`: also brutal that some scumbag politicians used it as an excuse to blast the government in the house of commons
nubbins`: two and a half years after your son kills himself, the government sends him a cheque for a fuckin penny
mircea_popescu: i imagine the costs of "making sure this never happens again" will be happily borne by everyone then
ninjashogun: “I extend the apologies of … everyone in the government to his mother. And we thank this individual for the service that he gave his country,” he said, "and are saddened by this grave error. The check was never meant to go out. Mrs. Stark, please accept our sincerest apologies - and by all means, keep the penny."
moiety: omg insult to injury or what
nubbins`: they don't even make pennies anymore. if you cashed that at a bank, you wouldn't get anything.
nubbins`: if it was 3 they'd round it to 5
mircea_popescu: i threatened my bank's clerk with having her write me one penny cashier checques for a few hundred lei coupla weeks back
Namworld: No, it only becomes acceptable at 5.50$ or higher.
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ozbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Second Story Of Echo And Narcissus
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moiety: oh i love this blog. i was on there for ages other day after you linked it mircea_popescu
moiety: honesty and reality amongst psychiatrists in this manner is rare, love the way he talks
moiety: felt like forwarding several things to doctors from my last hospital
moiety: (where i worked btw!!!!)
mircea_popescu: putin is ok, but what if ballas was dictator-general of latvia or something
mircea_popescu: i read them and feel roughly on par with a good session of reading the torah
ozbot: Eliza and Parry: When the machines talked to each other
mircea_popescu: anyway, you're right, it was parry that was the souped up eliza
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ozbot: Index of /afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/areas/classics/parry
BingoBoingo wonder how long it takes to catch with ninjashogun on that BingoBoingo did not merely link the linking article, but wrote it
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves i made a deal with him before he went all mental, whats the issue? he paid. at least what we agreed on the end.
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Most people are without a gasenwagen
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ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I considered that a private conversation.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I will say that I am glad I was on guard with you. Anyone who builds anything has to manage building it with talking about it.
benkay`: ninjashogun: there's no minimum IQ required for participating on the internet.
mircea_popescu: the philosophical problem would be that privacy is impossible without identity
benkay`: asciilifeform your chumpatron essay came up at lunch today
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun sheep have no privacy, nor crabs nor birds. privacy is a construct of the human mind, and it is built upon identity. which you don't currently have.