mats_cd03: are there still posters available my good man
nubbins`: almost as important as knowing how to recover from said backups :D
nubbins`: mats_cd03, the last one was sold a few days ago :/
mircea_popescu: "My critics will often take a binary stance in their arguments with this idea citing that “they could never be with more than one woman at a time out of respect for her” or “so I should just lie to her and see other girls on the side?” To which I’d argue that these are feminized social conventions that attempt to thwart a man’s options in order to establish women as the prime selectors in intersexual relati
mircea_popescu: ons. If it can be conditioned into a boy/man to ‘feel bad’ about seeing more than one woman at a time, it only better serves the female-as-chooser dynamic."
mircea_popescu: holy shit these meninists dudes are completely fucking retarded.
nubbins`: mats_cd03: one guy bought like 10, you could try asking him
mircea_popescu: all this derpage about how they want to "escape a female view of life and everything" yet they think of it through purely monogamous, "rel;ationshipy" eyes.
mircea_popescu: not a single one of them so far happened on the idea that you know what ? women must PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS.
mircea_popescu: that the male idea of life is a harem not a fucking "ltr"
mircea_popescu: ltr means a long term relationship with a number of women who fuck together.
mats_cd03: as an aside, the tools ddrescue and scalpel are pretty cool.
nubbins`: his username on the forums is TECSHARE
mats_cd03: i have to sign up on the forums? i guess ill wait for batch 2
gribble: I have not seen techshare.
nubbins`: punkman and thenewdeal both ordered two, i think
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nubbins`: mats_cd03 i guess i could sell you my copy (artist's proof)
BingoBoingo: Now nubbins` just has to make counterfeit posters
nubbins`: twist: everyone got poster number 17/100
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: How else were they going to defend the pretense the commenter's traffic habits weren't their actual product?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no but i mean the idiocy of people. "let's give away value to this company, so it can make money off of us for free!11"
mircea_popescu: this america is so fucking opposite of the classical america...
BingoBoingo: I dunno that I can really elaborate much beyond that single word in response.
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck is wrong with the world's most bankrupt government already. can't even keep HURRICANE WATCH website online ?
BingoBoingo: Well I mean I've driven through a strike nearly every day this past week.
BingoBoingo: Americans don't even know how to strike anymoar.
BingoBoingo: After 4 years of pay freezes someone did the math and real estate going down 20% while everything else goes up 23% actually means they make less than they did when I was a wee lad.
BingoBoingo: But this is a bezzel, neither side is innocent.
mircea_popescu: what did the romanian doctor tell the diabethic who told his doctor his wife got candida and asked what to do ?
BingoBoingo: I really need to work on speaking Latin languages. Managed to make it through lunch today without speaking a word of English.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu then waits for the puking to be over << I've ate American Chocolate
nubbins`: but have you eaten romanian meringue?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Not many opportunities for that in the Middle West.
mircea_popescu: well... someone made a marzipan replica of my cock once
assbot: Joe West suspended one game for grabbing and shoving Jonathan Pappelbon. Not enough to reign in one of mlb's most arrogant umps.
BingoBoingo: "Except that yesterday Joe West, who in 2010 was ranked the 2nd worst umpire in the league, decided to expand the role of instant replay in baseball all by himself. Joe West opened the door for instant replay further than it's ever been opened. Joe West opened the door for our children to cry out that things are unfair, stomp their feet and call out for an instant replay. Sadly, he won't be there when a cute girl decides to go out
BingoBoingo: when someone else, or when you don't get the job you were more qualified for, or when you get blamed for something your brother did, or when someone butts ahead of you in line. And sadly, because Joe West chose to single-handedly change the game that taught us how to deal with a world that can sometimes be unfair, we may not have the character to deal with those situations."
kdomanski: mircea_popescu: so I'm listening on an IRC chan related to datacenter management software:
kdomanski: "my slaves don't seem to be able to determine who their master is. i confirmed they can talk to zookeeper just fine."
kdomanski: the guy's getting technical support :D
kdomanski: do you have like a helpdesk for the harem?
mircea_popescu: well, there's the "help yourself" desk and the separate "helping girls memory" desk.
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kdomanski: oh, the man issued a wrong command to his slaves
nubbins`: that is incorrect behaviour for a master
BingoBoingo: I thought the correct default setting in case of a misunderstanding was always "build pyramid" so that in the worst case they can be located.
BingoBoingo: You beat them so they don't need chains of a physical kind
BingoBoingo: It's like a beacon, but with a longer lifespan
kdomanski: WTF did you just do, giving mircea_popescu ideas
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I agree. This is why I despise the NFL for its current war on RunningBacks. Still, I'd bet your two best against Rice-Petersen in a monument building contest.
BingoBoingo: Pyramids have to be politically neutral by now right?
mircea_popescu: this idiotic "i can be everything including a sex therapist" dude is giving advice to virgins, which includes... cialis.
mircea_popescu: because why the fuck not right, 18 year olds are such a splendid market for erection drugs.
BingoBoingo: Well two very different questions. the erection drugs work simply and when they are gone, there aren't many downstream effects.
BingoBoingo: Lipitor though affects pretty much everything in the Master gland
BingoBoingo: The way Lipitor fucks with cholesterol it fuck with every derivative of cholesterol including all of the fun sex hormones.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo up until the kid is in a skating accident and gets a dose of nitrate for paramedics
BingoBoingo: The erection drugs just trigger targeted vasodialation for roughly 30 seconds beyond the time they are metabolized to nothing.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo up until the kid is in a skating accident and gets a dose of nitrate for paramedics << What skaing accident could possibly call for nitrates?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, anything that convincingly enough mimics angina ?
BingoBoingo: Well, anything with bleeding would be a contrindication, which is what I think when I think skating accident...
mircea_popescu: derp boinks into something, has chest pains and shortness of breath, plsu irregular pulse
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> like say a mechanical rib pinch of the pleura << On the boner drugs that ought to be properly diagnosed as pneunothorax
BingoBoingo: A number of different kinds of irregular pulse exist.
mircea_popescu: the glyceril trinitrate is coming out "just to be sure"
mircea_popescu: yeah but we're not talking of the ones that survive here :p
BingoBoingo: Hey, Hunter S Thompson had to finish MKULTRA's work himself...
mircea_popescu: and regardless this you know, possible avenue. it's just a dumb fucking idea
mircea_popescu: what virgin teenager has legitimate erection problems for crying out loud.
BingoBoingo: Ah, If you are talking American, the word legitmate has been ejected long ago.
BingoBoingo: There may be teenagers with erection problems though in the sense that they can't get off with a girl, because they are too conditioned to the habits of their own hand.
mircea_popescu: and how about you know, a bit of priapism for that matter.
mircea_popescu: inept dosage results in damagingly enduring erections even in old men.
BingoBoingo: Priaprism has an easy, mechanical solution... in that it deflates
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mircea_popescu: not to menton you know, making it too hard which is actually numbing
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, not to mention formatting one's idea of one's own sexual experience in a weird contrived manner.
BingoBoingo: Well, diabetics have a learning curve. THESE ARE SRS X-PERTS.
BingoBoingo: The actual danger though is making erect cock insufficiently scarce.
mircea_popescu: not even sure that;s such a bad thing. let women live a little.
BingoBoingo: But the Tim Swanson of Erection Science LTD will never admit this.
BingoBoingo: I wonder when the last time inept Buenos Aires mugger dude had a solid boner was. Probably been a while.
mircea_popescu: i suppose given that south america decided boob jobs are apt gifts for 15 yo girls on their confirmation thingee, i shouldn't be too excited
BingoBoingo: Those sunken cheeks, the way he seemed so ashamed to raise his firearm...
mircea_popescu: nubbins` here i saw the first underage female with impants.
nubbins`: i know a mexican girl who narrowly decided not to have plastic surgery at 16
BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure most of this Immigrants from down under scare in the US is more wife driven than blue collar man driven.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The whale like Anglos dun want the Hispanic women to steal their allowances.
BingoBoingo: Think about the augmented Cali girl vs. Midwestern girl vs. Brazilian...
BingoBoingo: I think the actual scare is the literal "Lillian Rearden" scenario
mircea_popescu: well with the blessings of travel the differences aren't that marked physically. course, fat is fat, and annoying is annoying, whereas hungry is hungry and eager is eager.
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mircea_popescu: honestly thinking about it, the insanity of the crime levels in the us (both private and state-run) are what prevent more immigration.
mircea_popescu: not the ministration of blue collar anything, or any other electorate
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well with the blessings of travel the differences aren't that marked physically. course, fat is fat, and annoying is annoying, whereas hungry is hungry and eager is eager. << Probably also helps that Romanian is Perl, and... your ancestors are not vowel shift victims
mircea_popescu: just, your average sa guy that feels insecure in ba could simply not live in the us. at all. like you can't live in berlin cca 1948.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's mostly mexicans , not the proximity, but the only country with similar crime levels.
BingoBoingo: Actually anymore it isn't really much Mexicans
BingoBoingo: Central Americans in the too small to assert themselves states
mircea_popescu: ;;google spanish speakers in the us by country of origin
mircea_popescu: yeah well here's an idea : costa rica is like 2 mn total.
mircea_popescu: for it to matter in there it needs to find two dozen more central american countries
BingoBoingo: Well, I'm immediately more concerned about "minimalist travel the other direction.
BingoBoingo: Lawyer has yet to follow up on me about what the next hearing of whatever is.
BingoBoingo: Still pushing for some sort of University job here for long enough to get an escape plug of cash at least
BingoBoingo: This is disconcerting given how optimistic the lawyer's last conversation was.
BingoBoingo: In the worst case though if this thing goes to trial... I can probably take at least two or three law licenses down with me.
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BingoBoingo: And thanks to local county mountie politics they'd all be in the prosecutor's office so no need for guilt about it.
BingoBoingo: As far as the seperate federal question goes, I'm just an expensive dead end.
assbot: Comments on /fredwilson's blog post on Toshi by /coinbase show confusion about practical applications of blockchain:
http://t.co/oELgOTtLDV kakobrekla: fyi blockr code has nothing to do with toshi except its partially made by same people
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Oh, I thought Maybe toshi was just blockr stripped of the interface
kakobrekla: also blockr needs bitcoind to run, toshi does not
BingoBoingo: Well, it is an improvement. Coinbase developing only Coinbase API to Coinbase hiring capable people to make useful things that may fuck them in the end.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At this point... it seems to be a kind of morbid fascination of whether I first find library employment or three hots and a cot courtesy of the bezzel
BingoBoingo: Also a kind of curiosity. If the US let me know it wants to keep me here, can I leave anyways.
BingoBoingo: Also.. need a bit more time to practice the Spanish. And then there's the almost sick hope I might win the misdemeanor case nao.
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BingoBoingo: Or maybe it is some sick programming override that was snuck up my butt at scout camp.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your sitution wouldn't be a worst outcome.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: SPz somehow the FBI manages to store me for a decade because I have no silk road info and at the same time keep my priv keys safe? The chance at being a possum instead of a rat?
BingoBoingo: ATM plan roughly looks like car, run out of gas, walk, border, airplane, suitcase
BingoBoingo: Mostly because I am not paying a motherfucking fee to the TSA
BingoBoingo: If I have to pay a TSA fee to fucking look at a USian aeroplane, I am fucking going to a mexican aeroporte
BingoBoingo: Not Canadian because winter is coming, I'd like to live long enough to have not eaten poutine.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Exactly that. Canadian citizenship is work. Argentine is staying out of their jails.
BingoBoingo: And no Argentine politicians have picked a rap beef with me yet.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If I get to the river that (is finally wet nao foiling my plans) I have ~ 2 days of food beyond that.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, what are rattlesnakes and Gila monsters made of?
BingoBoingo: We have less fun critters of last resort in the outside pantry
BingoBoingo: In the worst case though the plan is to go pack and forth across the border with $40k stuffed up my ass each time
Namworld: What did you do? Need to get out of US, eh?
BingoBoingo: Namworld: I got interviewed by the FBI man, and Allegedly I spoke on issues of local politics in the neighboring counties
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's also the problem where I still dun have passporte
BingoBoingo: My fucking alabaster drive-thru lawyer has to be in practice probably the biggest nigger I have had the misfortune of trusting in my life.
danielpbarron: which reminds me of a conversation I had a while back, in which I speculated that someone who is sufficiently wealthy does not need a passport
Namworld: Oh, yeah... I see trilema article. I know of that law comics.
BingoBoingo: With respect to the issue of local corruption though... I might be up to doing a month in jail if it means I get 3-4 lawyers in the prosecutors office sanctioned. The Federal stuff though would make me walk.
BingoBoingo: The part where federal DA's routinely threaten people with 30 years in prison just to see if they can say anything interesting.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you don';t actually care about time it's likely cheaper to drive to mexico anyway
BingoBoingo: Well, last I priced the esacpe it was ~300 dollars to the border and ~$2000 to hardware BA. Not counting the part where I leave the car in Laredo it die.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That would require Title paperwork and all that. best to just leave the keys in with a sweater I bled all over half a mile from the bridge.
BingoBoingo: An option maybe. I also headed to Argentina fear bringing in insufficient dollars to blue up.
mircea_popescu: you look burly enough, you can prolly get a job as an arbolito.
mircea_popescu: arbolito = dudes hanging around florida trading dollars for pesos
cazalla: BingoBoingo, beards went from cool to terrifying here today
BingoBoingo: Like the dream version of the mov kind of involves everything I carry into harware #b-a being paper
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You forget I'm the sort of person at least one local politican wants to equate with Isis even though I am not the least bit fond of Sand Niggers.
BingoBoingo: I just wonder what the safe way to do BTC-Dollars-Pesos is when Pesos rise to 7 per dollar
cazalla: gov only just raised the terror alert to high here last week, i'm guessing this is in response to that, they arrested 15, i bet they let all but a few go once their show is said and done
BingoBoingo: In Murica you don't even need a beard to be a Turrorist. Heard it on KMOX.
cazalla: apparently heads were gonna roll in the streets of australia
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mircea_popescu: and i thought wtf, pundits are supposed to be all angry and glum, not gay
BingoBoingo: No they are all of the above, angry, gay, and glum
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http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 51(Y):49(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.48041982 BTC. Current weight: 80,754.
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BingoBoingo: cazalla: Too young o engage in political speech
mircea_popescu: gee whiz look at that. just like south africa over there.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the adults step in at the end to raise money for charities that fight racism
BingoBoingo: cazalla: No, people count in the insurection from the age of 16 to 36
BingoBoingo: If you need Cialis you are too old. If Cialis kills you by priaprism you are too young
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Sure, approved for every other day though.
BingoBoingo: Only cause that cunt juice is psychotropic
TheNewDeal: bb did you have any other encounters after the first interview with the 2 derps?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: But the paranoia I'm feeling is "special"
TheNewDeal: I think many would feel the same in your position
TheNewDeal: is it possible to get a passport though?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Fucking county mounties on their high horse about last year's alleged misdemeanor
BingoBoingo would just like to be employed in the US long enough to own a taxi somewhere else.
devthedev: Just move to Scotland, they'll be broken off from Britain soon enough.
devthedev: You'd have to pick it up in FL though.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: In that case Buenos Aires still seems a hell of a lot safer, but... Florida would offer me more places to stock up on Rum as opposed to taking the overland route.
BingoBoingo: I've seen Titanic. I know Scotland is surrounded by banshees.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Also what sort of powerplant does your boat have?
devthedev: You'd probably be better off with my Kayak then my wooden boat.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: I smoke cigarettes though and get winded easily.
TheNewDeal: cannabis was my gateway drug to tobacco... if only they would have taught me in elementary school
BingoBoingo: devthedev: You know you can voice yourself...
devthedev: Yeah, I'm not authed right now though.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I dunno why... Nothing about Cannibais touches tobacco's awesomeness
TheNewDeal: I hung around people that mixed the two, started doing it myself, continued smoking as a habbit
devthedev: Something about inhaling hot smoke doesn't seem pleasant to me.
TheNewDeal: Temperature doesn't bother, but the lung capacity gets to you.
BingoBoingo: It's actually very comforting to the lungs from tobacco decline to comment on the lesser smoke
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I played a variant of the Tuba so maybe I have too much lung
TheNewDeal: I do some breathing exercises myself, but the effect from smoking is still noticeable. Along with decreased saliva production / transport through the esophagus
TheNewDeal: Can someone explain this bet to me? Why not wait 7ish days Bet placed: 2.89738396 BTC for Yes on "20% difficulty increase before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1036/ Odds: 51(Y):49(N) by coin, 50(Y):50(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.48041982 BTC. Current weight: 80,754.
assbot: BitBet - 20% difficulty increase before 2015 :: 5.39 B (51%) on Yes, 5.09 B (49%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 80`729 (100`000 to 1`000)
mike_c: perhpas the bettor is not considering this period only.
gribble: Current Blocks: 321271 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 1288 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 15 hours, 20 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35103070731.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.67813
mike_c: last 48 hours have been busiest two days for bitbet this month.. right after btcalpha launched the analyzer. coincidence?
TheNewDeal: lots of bets I had made that lied inactive for a long time were bet on after that was released
mike_c: well i am rooting for bitbet. tired of building tools that are obsolete a few months after i ship them.
TheNewDeal: would love to see them develop a separate set of betting system for price bets and difficulty
mike_c: what would you change?
mike_c: you can make bets with different weight. i used to make sports bets that ended at 90,000
TheNewDeal: well if you look at the bet I just pasted, the diff 20% increase one
TheNewDeal: it would be nice if the weight dropped to near zero almost every 2016 blocks
TheNewDeal: In the event that this bet turns out yes early, it will get murdered by yes
TheNewDeal: because 2000 blocks into each change, it's very easy to answer the question "will the current change be 20% or less?"
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mike_c: note that higher weight had significantly higher ROI
BingoBoingo: I mean this diff thing is hitting Moore's law. Future 20% diffs require... big foundries...
mike_c: i could put timestamps, seemed redundant.
TheNewDeal: but how many days difference was there between say weight 99994 and weight 56297
TheNewDeal: especially when one considers their return/day or return annualized
mike_c: well, if you are focused on return/day you should only bet on things that are going to close early.
TheNewDeal: for instance, I once bet on a "price will drop below 400 before X"
mike_c: it's a tough way to make an easy living
TheNewDeal: but with difficulty you get much more data to look at
TheNewDeal: if I wait 2010 blocks into a 2016 block change, my certainty becomes much much greater
decimation: asciilifeform: re: green hills os << I've seen this before. I'm somewhat dubious about the proposition "we r ultrasecure but we use von neumann cpuuuu!"
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> last 48 hours have been busiest two days for bitbet this month.. right after btcalpha launched the analyzer. coincidence? << :)
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal in principle one could propose and seed bets for each retarget
TheNewDeal: I've done the short term targets, and they're both risky and fun
TheNewDeal: but it becomes very difficult to pick a day in which to end the weighting at
mircea_popescu: mike_c actually about 20ish btc a day is the secular average for bitbet. 50 or so over 3 days is about avg neh ?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal you can specify them by block height and have a reasonable but outside resolve date
TheNewDeal: I'm not saying it's impossible, but specifying the date is about as difficult as weighting the probabilty of the event occuring in the first place
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dub: can you nix any bets that refer to a season as being related to a time of teh year
nubbins`: like the bet resolves as yes if the first day of spring falls on x?
dub: its a uniquely american retardation 'its summer here and I have no concept of anything outside my neighbourhood
TheNewDeal: all you have to do is look at resolution / closing date
TheNewDeal: I don't care what 3rd quarter for S&P500 is either. All I care about is bet closing and even resolution date (not necessarily when bitbet resolves it)
dub: you went one better and gave context, '3rd quarter' is equally meaningless
dub: its the 3rd quater of a financial year
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TheNewDeal: financial year differs from company to company, in my opinion
dub: yeah well US companies largely use teh calendar year
TheNewDeal: some companies financial year revolves around tax date in us
mircea_popescu waits for the "and july isn't really 31 days plus today should really be sept 3rd" discussion
dub: we can quibble over leap secodns
TheNewDeal: mike_c in reference to different weighting mechanisms. How about a price bet that is weighted by both bitstamp price and time
mike_c: mircea_popescu: median since July 1 is 6 btc
TheNewDeal: how far is 50 above the expected 43.5 :)
mircea_popescu: 442 in august, 543 july, 251 june, 449 may, 217 april, 1659 march etc
mircea_popescu: it does have some heavy variation, but anyway, 50ish for 3 days seems more or less a good estimate
mike_c: 2 day = median 18.7, avg 28.15
mike_c: 3 day = median 26.6, avg 41.7
mike_c: so last two days 37 btc ain't bad, i'm still insinuating a causation ;)
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mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal try and see, this is like a totally real virtual reality.
mike_c: i have to point it out quick before the data turns against me.
mike_c: dub: actually for some stupid reason many US companies use July 1 as start of fiscal year
mike_c: well then i'll shut up
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dub: I can incorporate a company with any fiscal year I like
dub: mike_c: its probably (as TheNewDeal said) lining up with the tax year? It does in some places by convention
mike_c: but tax year is calendar..
dub: whats mp's birthay? all future dubcorp entities shall be calendared thus
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dub: mike_c: oh, it is? not everywhere (i get a choice)
mike_c: interesting. thankfully i don't do my company's books.
mircea_popescu: dub i dun think this morsel actually ever ended up in public.
mircea_popescu: mike_c tax year is actually april the nth or some bs in the us.
dub: think this illustrates my point nicely though
TheNewDeal: For instance, the taxes I pay on January 1 2014 - December 3x 2014 will be due on April 2x 2015
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dub: sounds like an easy war to win? poor people can't be very well armed
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mircea_popescu: i left a comment on the blog he's arguing with. kinda curious if it gets published.
TheNewDeal: he's got the usian culture pegged down quite well "This is because truth seeking through argument is not considered the point. The point is consensus, so if everybody mutually eye rolls, then the job is done. If you do not automatically join in the eye rolling, then everything you say MUST be wrong."
mircea_popescu: well the problem may also be that there's like 2 of him and 200 of those other guys.
TheNewDeal: regardless, it's quite funny to see people jump from dating/fucking full grown women to pedophilia
mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem, she could just as well be 16 or w/e
mircea_popescu: pedophilia isn't being attracted to young women, they have to be children.
TheNewDeal: by 16 the woman is virtually sexually mature
TheNewDeal: I would consider an attraction to a 13 year quasi pedophilia if she was not developed
mircea_popescu: thankfully i dun have the job to make the sort of unpleasant call
mircea_popescu: i can just conveniently cherrypick and laugh at the people working in the muck of it
mircea_popescu: so apparently scottish women are 58% for uk, 42% for independence, and the gap is widening
mircea_popescu: "Women voting. A free and independent society. Choose one. The choice between the two is rarely so obvious as this, though." an' stuff.
TheNewDeal: widening meaning that more are going for uk?
BingoBoingo: Shame we can't ask moiety about the local perspective
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mircea_popescu: in other news : aggregate advertising and dating data seems to show that a 50% increase in mixed race fantasy couples being displayed over 5 eyars corresponds to a 50% increase in the affinity for white women for white men, and reciprocal, and further a decrease for both black men -> white women and black wome -> white men and reciprocal.
mircea_popescu: the famous uncanny valley of mixed race matrimony : the least seen it is, the more acceptable, and vice-versa.
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cazalla: why's that? we were told it's just part of their growth style at this age to be clingy
mircea_popescu: well the part of their growth style may be to be clingy, but it's supposed to not work.
cazalla: i can't cope with the crying so it's easier to tell wife to stay with him
mircea_popescu: let the kid choke once in a while, let the woman have her own life once in a while.
cazalla: have a life that is, choking sound is awful when we give him a new food
cazalla: i've been sick with flu anyway so poor woman is at her wits ends
punkman: a morning teaser: You are sitting on an olive tree, smoking some tobacco, watching the river. The Beaumont sisters are having a swim and it's an even bet that the first two to come out of the water will have big tits. How many of the sisters have small tits?
xmj: not enough information
punkman: BingoBoingo: the moarrr guy?
punkman: some quotes I saved: "actually tbh i would make people money except i cant be bothered, i dont really wanna make anyone rich to get more money myself, id rather just chill in my room and drink cider and think up new ideas"
punkman: "i can actually get 10x or 100x pretty easily, done it before Talisman, but if i told you then you would probably just try and do it yourself and thus wouldnt need me"
punkman: and of course, he's in massive debt
xmj: punkman: THATS BETTER
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00075219 = 4.2499 BTC [+]
xmj: punkman: i liked the one on the left in the real world picture
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18 = 0.72 BTC [+] {3}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00075165 = 11.0117 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00075101 = 10.7394 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00075027 = 13.5799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2844 @ 0.00075027 = 2.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00003991 = 0.7982 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00075027 = 7.1276 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 2002 @ 0.001 = 2.002 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: punkman: close, 3 have big tits << depends on whether we accept some particular notions as to the genetics that cause big tits dunnit ?
mircea_popescu: there's not just one, female inherited factor. there's at least three, of which at least one skips a generation.
mircea_popescu: punkman: some quotes I saved: "actually tbh i would make people money except i cant be bothered, i dont really wanna make anyone rich to get more money myself, id rather just chill in my room and drink cider and think up new ideas" <<< i'm saving this one for the next time some derp comes up with "a billionaire dude would never hang out in irc with us rubes"
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mircea_popescu: course the sub should qualify the homo not the preposition. subhominem addack or something.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "I've at this point given up at editing any of the text at all. " << this is often a clue the whole thing is not worth publishing, as painful as may be. ie, if one guy can't be bothered to spend an extra minute on the strength of the material, there's cause to believe a thousand readers shouldn't be asked to spend that one second it takes them to decide they don't want it.
ThickAsThieves: "Overstock to Donate 4% of Bitcoin Revenue to Foundations Advocating Cryptocurrency Adoption"
mircea_popescu: this is pretty much the only good way to pander to your readership, and yes they can tell.
punkman: mircea_popescu: but their name's Beaumont, it runs in the family
mircea_popescu: punkman sure, but no guarantee is made both their mother and grandmother was heavy bosomed.
ThickAsThieves: accounting dept days "hey you know those btc you are retaining, they are plummeting" "well donate that shit so we can write it off!"
ThickAsThieves: "Overstock has initially selected the Chamber of Digital Commerce"
ThickAsThieves: tho i still think bitcoingirl should just take up a career in playing a dame in movies
mircea_popescu: ouch. well this chick's overbite... here's the problem : before now when her pretentiousness flopped, it would have been just a young woman being naive. but now, with 4% of overstock REVENUE, if the thing flops she's just a failure.
mircea_popescu: kids, just won't stay out of the fire for the life of them.
peterl: did they actually mean revenue or is it profit?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what do you mean weathered the selloff ? you mean they had a stock selloff or what ?
peterl: tax theory sounds good to me
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall their published btc sales figures were piddly, but w/e
ThickAsThieves: as of mid-Aug it was $2m with $5m projection for year end
mircea_popescu: someone should figure out how that projector works lol
mircea_popescu: anyway i recall something more like 200k or w/e, back in spring.
ThickAsThieves: they probably apply xmas sales bump proportionally to bitcoin sales for projection
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mats_cd03: i can imagine post-xmas sales being a thing
mats_cd03: people spending btc they dont want, etc.
mircea_popescu: “This record was hand shaped and individually cut in real time using a vintage 1940s Presto 75A recording lathe. It is a unique piece. It is not the same as a traditional pressed record. It was not made in a factory. It was hand carved from an 8ft sheet of polycarbonate plastic, shaped, sanded, waxed and cut in real time by one person.”
mats_cd03: paper wallet gifts from that weird nephew...
punkman: got my posters from nubbins, but arsepost says they'll need a couple of days to locate them...
punkman: I'm over at extemporized.com
chetty: give btc for xmas gifts, save shopping
mircea_popescu: someone with a forum account please to tell klech guy he's cool and to drop by.
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mats_cd03: they're swimming away from a bank?
peterl: does anybody here use bitmessage?
ThickAsThieves: the art looks like a bunch of bitcoiners reaching to escape to bitcoin and failing
ThickAsThieves: kinda cool if you imagine the coin to be one of the dropped coins from the failures i guess
jurov: they put the bank on fire and fucking on the stairs. me like.
peterl: is it useful? do you like it?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i was thinking, "prolly fluff, he uses all the weird things" but then i was like, give the guy a break, don't say anything
ThickAsThieves: i installed bitmessage once, then i realized there was no one to talk to
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mircea_popescu: it's really badly titled which is what threw me off originally. it's really the counterpart to my economic theory piece, it should be "a complete theory of sociology"
kakobrekla: how the hell does he make those vinyl records
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kakobrekla: <punkman> on a lathe < i guess that might work for digital data
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mircea_popescu: but yes, the reviewer's comment about "sharp around the edges" suggests it's number-powered
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla, the audio is likely made in "high contrast" so it's analog smoothing doesnt affect the data
ThickAsThieves: sure it is, it's done in how he makes the conversion fo audio in the first place
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> buttcoin isnt even insulting you properly <<
kakobrekla: my point was, you precision can be off with digital data, with analog it would sound bad.
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kakobrekla: with digital you have 1 and 0 and thresholds that compensate for your loss of precision
kakobrekla: with analog, well you just get shit out.
gernika: peterl currently it appears to be broken
ThickAsThieves: interesting phenomenon with AM shares, now that they dont pay divs, no one can verify ownerships
peterl: gernika do you find it useful when it is not broken?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.18199999 = 1.274 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: 17:20 <qq1932> That is how people protect themsevles in the real world, and it works. VC's will write $10M checks after 3 weeks of knowing someone, and there is 0% legit fraud there. << ~_~
ThickAsThieves: lol the guys says WoT is a scam, then explains how to use a WoT
gernika: peterl It may be permanently broken. But I did find it useful, yes. Currently looking at fixes.
ThickAsThieves: "VC's will write $10M checks after 3 weeks of knowing someone, and there is 0% legit fraud there."
peterl: gotta love all those bezzle dollars
gernika: The network is being spammed with low POW broadcast messages.
peterl: isn't it supposed to ignore low POW messages?
gernika: To the point where people aren't getting messages
gernika: Unfortunately the POW cutoff level appears to be a constant.
peterl: isn't it open source, can't people go into the code and change the hard codings?
gernika: petrel yes - everyone could update their constant manually. But that's only a temporary fix.
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gernika: peterl perhaps "permanently" was a bad choice of words. "Seriously" would be better.
punkman: asciilifeform: at least it uses encrypted priv keys
kakobrekla: well i wonder which one of those is it
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kakobrekla is curious what the audio quality would be from that particular unit
peterl: ack, my kid is attacking the keyboard :(
peterl: would letting a 2-yo type be a good random generator?
kakobrekla: change the animal, need to change code.
nubbins`: pascale had one of those extensions on her mac
nubbins`: we successfully engaged it by pressing a spread palm on the keyboard
nubbins`: i think it's essentially just looking for long keypresses, indicating something heavy is on the kb
nubbins`: "CAT-LIKE TYPING DETECTED" appears on-screen and one must type "human" to unlock
kakobrekla: >PawSense normally recognizes a cat on the keyboard within one or two pawsteps
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18199999 = 0.91 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 775 @ 0.0075 = 5.8125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1001 @ 0.0075 = 7.5075 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 93 @ 0.0075 = 0.6975 BTC [+]
mike_c: ^ 50% above mkt price..
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assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00400080 / 0.00658679 / 0.00750000 (2927 shares, 19.27954758 BTC), 7D: 0.00383331 / 0.00587807 / 0.00750000 (4188 shares, 24.61737394 BTC), 30D: 0.00320001 / 0.00466943 / 0.00750000 (13039 shares, 60.88467446 BTC)
Mrstickball: they are unsold shares from his last tranche of shares
punkman: why is anyone buying at .0075 instead of waiting until after IPO?
Mrstickball: punkman: new equity-bearing shares, and raises EPS guidance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.17048958 = 20.1178 BTC [-] {16}
punkman: Mrstickball: are the old ones not equity-bearing?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 82 @ 0.16410326 = 13.4565 BTC [-] {13}
nubbins`: here's their SEC filing for this IPO
nubbins`: "Minimum investment accepted from any outside investor$10,000 USD"
nubbins`: i guess for these purposes havelock would be the "investor"
ThickAsThieves: sounds right, from what i recall about how havelock wanted to do thinks
nubbins`: "Regardless of whether securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, enter the total number of investors who already have invested in the offering: 1"
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00400080 / 0.00659606 / 0.00750000 (2957 shares, 19.50454758 BTC), 7D: 0.00383331 / 0.00588961 / 0.00750000 (4218 shares, 24.84237394 BTC), 30D: 0.00320001 / 0.00467593 / 0.00750000 (13069 shares, 61.10967446 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: my wife is all 'maybe this bitcoin thing isnt such a good idea' because we have to pay cap gains tax
ThickAsThieves: I attempted to explain that all income is taxed and most at that rate
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: well cap gains on bitcoin is really high like both on income + property
thestringpuller: my accountant was like "If you want fiat you're gonna get double taxed since some of this btc was earned through working"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
xmj: ThickAsThieves: are you kidding me lol
ThickAsThieves: your accountant sounds like he misunderstands something
xmj would love to work for Bitcoin, btw
ThickAsThieves: right, buit it wouldnt be profit after you got paid in it
mats_cd03: why don't you just convert it to cash
thestringpuller: under my mattress and pretend i am broke colelge student still
ThickAsThieves: best part is, she wants me to sell more bitcoins to pay the taxes
ThickAsThieves: i'm like, you now i'll have to pay taxes on those too right?
teward: thestringpuller: isnt that on the sale of capital? i.e. capital gains at the time of sale.
teward: at least in the USA, we get taxed that as part of our income tax, but depending on the length of the ownership of the item which gets you capital gains, there's different tax rates
ThickAsThieves: are the people that paid you in bitcoin issuing a 1099?
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mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> "VC's will write $10M checks after 3 weeks of knowing someone, and there is 0% legit fraud there." << what's ilegit fraud ? fraudy-fraud ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> vinyl record wallet << good art project, << tis the art project that caught my eye
ThickAsThieves: words are like crayons, you can make anything you want, in any color you want
rithm: i like to make money disappear
rithm is waaaay overextended purposefully
thestringpuller: teward: yea if you own the property for X amount of time the capital gains taxes are waived. This is a loophole for homeowners, btc falls under the same statutes. But you still have to pay income tax on income from BTC. I.e. i get paid in BTC as part of some employment contract. The receipt of those coins needs to be claimed with the IRS and then you gotta pay whatever during income tax.
ThickAsThieves: when you convert to fiat, if there's gain, there's tax due, if not, then not
thestringpuller: yes but that's not included if say you pay me X BTC to mow your lawn all year and I don't convert BTC to fiat
teward: thestringpuller: that's a gray area that you could argue in the tax courts, but you're right. if you don't liquidate the BTC and hold the BTC for over one fiscal year then those bitcoins are only subject to the capital gains tax as well as the income tax IF the liquidation occurs during that fiscal year. At any later date after the BTC has been held for a year it should be the case that it's THEN capital gains taxed.
thestringpuller: additionally as property if you own said property for X amount of time (i don't know the exact figure in this state), you get the capital gains waived.
mircea_popescu: peterl> would letting a 2-yo type be a good random generator? << nah.
teward: thestringpuller: if we want to be truly logical about analyzing this situation... then lets look at state taxes as well
teward: thestringpuller: in theory you're paying four taxes on that BTC income, state and federal income, and then capital gains for both
thestringpuller: yea the loophole is just to hold and liquidate after the expiration of capital gains.
teward: ehhhhhhhhhhh that's not entirely accurate
teward: capital gains can be done in the long term, the rate is just LOWER for the tax. at least in the US
mircea_popescu: <punkman> why is anyone buying at .0075 instead of waiting until after IPO? << or even having waited for a day BEFORE the ipo ?
teward: thestringpuller: differs state-to-state but you have to look at the 'two tax laws' imposed, one being state, one being federal :/
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> peterl> would letting a 2-yo type be a good random generator? << nah. < better than 12-yo and prolly even 22.
thestringpuller: People who have owned a house for 20-30 years and it's escalated in value are not subject to capital gains. (I know this to be true because I know many people who have sold their houses for more than they bought them and have not gotten taxed for it. The only tax attached to the transaction is sales tax on the buyer).
mircea_popescu: * xmj would love to work for Bitcoin, btw <<< sure, but doing what.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: when the dekulakization squad wants your usd << hence not holding usd
nubbins`: also, just discovered bitpremier
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves yeah, last name sounded familiar
nubbins`: dilbert or silbert or something
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> my wife is all 'maybe this bitcoin thing isnt such a good idea' << if i had to take a bet on the matter, it'd go like so : it has exactly zero to do with any rationalisation she comes up with and everything to do with how annoyingly you've changed since getting involved with these loser geeks.
teward: thestringpuller: keep in mind homes are governed under separate rules as well
teward: thestringpuller: there's a lot of home-specific laws and tax rules that other capital gains aren't included under
nubbins`: sell my btc and i'll cut you, etc
ThickAsThieves: for two, i'm starting to feel like no aamount of money (in bitcoin) will be real to her
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves time to go read up on game, frame, hand and all that.
nubbins`: buy her a copy of the jan 3 2009 times
ThickAsThieves: dude she got a new suv, solar panels, hw floors, vacations
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well sadly they're pua concepts, but they already wrote fiddy billion words on the topic since 2010 and im too lazy to re-write the shit in 100k. especially since in the 5bn words they actually did cover 90% of the 100k, and you should be able to filter.
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mircea_popescu: yeah srsly, what do you want from me. im not hiding any kidnapped us chicks for you folks.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, she's probably getting more for her buck there than in any possible alternative.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 8.53291096 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 742 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: respec, attention, the feeling of doing the right thing, we
ThickAsThieves: i think it's something like 'social relevance' or justifying ones own existence
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla not really, cause small kid tends to paw, and clustered keys is one of the main enemies of entropy
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves so divest all your btc and pick up a hobby
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mircea_popescu: well if i could condense it in 500 words i would have already.
ThickAsThieves: seems like the quest you are sending me on is "to understand woman"
mircea_popescu: nah, just some keywords in a specific set of... philosophy is muchly said, but anyway. worldview
mircea_popescu: there's this group of people, who figure they've figured out women. they're not entirely correct, but they do have some good points.
mircea_popescu: and since we're on the topic, it's fucking incredible to me how abandonedly they link to each other.
ThickAsThieves: i could probly just learn more about her mom and map onto her
mircea_popescu: it's not even a matter of, some people in a conclave circle jerking
mike_c: i can confirm that a 1 yr old is terrible random number generator. they focus on a small subset of keys and bang.
mircea_popescu: no, they link to nobodies, to beginners, to people in their comments, they link like their fucking life depends on it
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's exactly the only reason they eked into a modicum of relevancy for the social discourse
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "the press" avoids linking to people like the plague, as the quoted piece from maddox yest showed. and i suspect this has a lot to do with their collapse, it's not the internet, is that they misunderstood the importance of reference.
ThickAsThieves: i can see it now "whatcha reading, babe?" "The Ugly Reality Of Open Relationships"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is what i thought too, 2011ish. but here's the thing : these people now do book deals,
mircea_popescu: my own pet theory, which you may laugh at as you will, is that the difference is the investment of hate. these people hate women, fundamentally, and as such they no longer need to look out for enemies, and so everyone else is a friend.
mircea_popescu: the press meanwhile knows no greater enemy than... another press outlet, especially in the same market
mircea_popescu: the investment of hate results in online success, the failure to invest it results in online failure.
mircea_popescu: consider what that "unfit to print" was in 1950, and in 1975, and in 2000.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the pua people DO have things they'll never print.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, see, those are circumstantial. it's not about the press. if the chinese took over tomorrow it'd be all over the washington post.
mircea_popescu: i'm talking about things that are fundamental, not mere convention built atop and supported on nothing really.
assbot: Ali G - Feminism - YouTube
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xmj: hahahahaha now that's a weird bet.
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ThickAsThieves: i hope buterin and friends dont think they can surpress price THAT long
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> is the answer for king to decree 'anyone may call himself a man of medicine' ? << yes, actually.
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: why not? gold has been suppressed for decades
mircea_popescu: the only correct response to one that wishes to impress you with meaningless bloodletting is MORE bloodletting, better directed.
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: only sorta. paper gold and market fixing abounds.
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2014 15:50:00; asciilifeform: had a thought. usg's btc price dampener strategy has no clear endgame - the 'ethereum' thing will carry on while the usd printing press runs, because it stands to reason they are running both the sell and -buy- ends of the machine. 'arse-mouth system.'
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mike_c: i sent the link to warren, we're tight.
kakobrekla: bitcoin holders are sheep. you only need to announce the sell to drop the price, not actually sell.
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ThickAsThieves: i'm not convinced there's anything at play but a lack of new bitcoin buyers
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not the same link, just the same title.
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2014 15:56:55; mircea_popescu: ensure too strong a word. but suppose you don't let terrorists run their own exchanges, nor deposit to yours.
kakobrekla: why would they announce it and not use the collected coin (ether). its a give away
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the joke being, of course, that bitcoin had an otc market larger than the exchanges back in 2012.
mircea_popescu: to imagine the entire set of noob exchanges today have 50% of the volume of mtgox in 2012 is to overstate things.
mircea_popescu: that means they're playing with confederate bills somewhere in the nebraska territory of bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: fwiw the larger SR coin address was dumped the same day that Draper got his coins
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mircea_popescu: of course nonsensical bs like "a perfectly fair price index" would get approved by the sec, bec, dec and heck in short order.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones can you actually confirm what you bid ?
nubbins`: figured they'd go for above market rates
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if you recall that bet is still in contention.
ThickAsThieves: i like this theory, what if Draper actually bid less than everyone, but for all 160k or so coins
mircea_popescu: what happened was that one favoured party got the benefit of "match the best offer we get", is the problem.
los_pantalones: nah but we assumed all the SM buyers would have blue balls and pay up after they lost
mircea_popescu: that shit's going nowhere, suddenly they found extra utility for all the moles placed in random shitholes.
ThickAsThieves: just like the NYDFS currently creating months of research they supposedly did in the Spring
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're lieing to yourself. in point of fact, on the strength of your wot rating yo ucan participate just fine.
nubbins`: i think localbtc does a lotta biz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well i suppose i misread. yes, as a internal-regulations-abiding inmate, it doesn't exist for you.
los_pantalones: not if you document it, which is really quite easy to do
xmj: asciilifeform: how do you pay them? bank transfer?
xmj: how in gods name do you pay for food with wires
xmj: you pay food with creditcard and pay creditcard with wires?
xmj: asciilifeform: former apartment i paid rent with paper actually
xmj: asciilifeform: ... my landlord wanted it so. :)
nubbins`: i prefer to receive rent via interac e-transfer
xmj: but, yeah, i know what you mean.
nubbins`: not everyone likes doing it tho :/
nubbins`: i suppose this is a foreign concept to you non-canadians
xmj: asciilifeform: mine - lives on another continent.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you gotta understand the otc market is really a bunch of large players, in us fiat.
xmj: asciilifeform: know anyone hiring sysadmins for BTC? >:)
mircea_popescu: three govt owned banks pushing govt script back and forth, what exactly is going to be so laundery about that ?
ThickAsThieves: so basically if you are an otc seller, you just gotta watch out for buyers saying suspicious things, as they may be agents
assbot: Digital Citizens Alliance
mircea_popescu: i think the prime of "we're selling bitcoin to pay for stolen credit cards" is come and gone.
bounce: as in, pressure group pays "experts" to "prove" teh intarwebz are full of badness. still. again. whatever.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they were trying that shit, mostly to elicit new information, some vague hope to make jury think onoes realbadman.
mircea_popescu: but it didn't really go anywhere. they got too much drivel and the judges don't really get impressed.
nubbins`: i don't know why people think big-time drug logistics and btc overlap in any significant way
ThickAsThieves: i'm not exactly clear why money laundering is even illegal
xmj: because the things you do to require laundering money is illegal
nubbins`: small-time, sure. no sweat. big-time, nuh-uh
nubbins`: look at what happened to SR when they tried to move big amounts
xmj: or legal, but you're doing it off-time off-regulation off-taxes
nubbins`: since SR was geared towards end-users
nubbins`: no coke user is buying in 1kg bricks
xmj: ^ truthtalk marked by "jk"-- always
nubbins`: the point of the site was to let suburbia buy drugs without having to interact with dealers
xmj: well because dealers are shady
nubbins`: what moron is going to risk his dick losing a kilo on some website?
xmj: that's why they're dealers.
mircea_popescu: well something like that. "let suburbia buy drugs while interacting with dealers on social media" was the idea
xmj: also they live with their moms.
bounce: every. last. one. of. them.
bounce: but it's kinda interesting to see how money is now guilty until proven innocent. all in the name of fighting droogs and terrism and whatever.
mircea_popescu: bounce no dude. that's how they rationalize it, but really, the problem is the money is worthless. to maintain its appearance of value, its use has to be limited
nubbins`: anyway, if you find yourself in possession of 1kg of cocaine, you know how to get rid of it already. if you find yourself looking to buy 1kg of cocaine, you're NOT doing it online
nubbins`: other hand: if you're some kid living in the middle of idaho and you want to try LSD...
bounce: "limited", in what way? "quantitative easing" type limiting?
nubbins`: here we call it "university" ;D
mircea_popescu: here are "your" ten dollars and here's the list of things you may trade it for.
mircea_popescu: don't trade it for other things and you won't know how worthless it is.
ThickAsThieves: how does btc stand a chance of avoiding all this? cant "goxcoins" be created and contained so as to depress market?
bounce: well I won't say no to a sack of that worthless money. a milliard or two should do.
mircea_popescu: they have the same thing in argentina, it's called "precios cuidados". you can buy cheap shitty rice and w/e for pesos as if the official rate were meaningfull.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.49991689 BTC. Current weight: 54,425.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 36(Y):64(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 18.68931212 BTC. Current weight: 15,690.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well sure, that's what ethereum is trying to achieve.
bounce: what're you saying, proposing to scam the gullible for the good of the many? what how now?
ThickAsThieves: i guess that's why we already see huge premiums on OTC (real) coins
gribble: 1 XAU = 1227.300000000000 USD = 2.90746707098 BTC
ben_vulpes: * xmj would love to work for Bitcoin, btw << wtf last time i offered to cut you checks in btc you were all "nah lets fuck around with retarded int'l payment processors"
[]bot: Bet placed: 250 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment"
http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 62(Y):38(N) by coin, 74(Y):26(N) by weight. Total bet: 1816.66146022 BTC. Current weight: 44,508.
xmj: ben_vulpes: yes and since then i've had to deal with Skype, the IRS fuckers, and got around to set things up.
xmj: ben_vulpes: I've TOLD you I'd love to work for BTC before.
xmj: er, replace skype with PayPal.
bounce: oh, was about to mention something about running your own SIP
bounce: (switch, ata hooked up to some service, whatever)
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> bitbet is having a totally shit month /// use your powers to make BTCUSD $700 again, all will be well
mircea_popescu: o hey bitcoin outlets ? there've just been a quarter million dollars worth of btc bet within an hour. this is not news because you don't know where news in bitcoin breaks or because you don't know what news actually is ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves my powers only work when nobody mentions them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw at some point ima want to hear what you thought!
bounce: "don't mention the powers!"
mircea_popescu: bounce yeah i'm an unbelief god. like, most gods draw their power from believers believing.
bounce: too bad our collective name is cleese
xmj: ;;google Scotland Independence Poll
mircea_popescu: lol and of course the scream of late leech is at its place.
mike_c: this activity is hurting kakobrekla's theory that bitbet need moar user friendly
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> i'm like, you now i'll have to pay taxes on those too right? << dude stop letting the wimmins make important decisions like dietary and financial structuring
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2014 04:09:12; mircea_popescu: answer : because women. pregnancy is also -ev, and yet women do it. the same psychological complexes that control that can also yield amusing social results.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 420.0, Best ask: 420.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 420.0, 24 hour volume: 14195.12576169, 24 hour low: 420.0, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 442.041614288
mircea_popescu: i would guess the bitstamp ticker crossed the guy's whatever threshold
xmj: ben_vulpes: btw, ive since learned that sending SWIFT wires is cheaper and more convenient than PayfuckingPal.
ThickAsThieves: my prediction is the Wall St correction will begin just before BRK bet closes and mp will be laughing
bounce is supporting bitbet by not believing in the bets. nor actually betting.
ThickAsThieves: after all, all coin in that bet supports a Yes outcome
mircea_popescu: does anyone more versed in math have a ready replacement for sine and cosine in places where one wants a periodic but doesn't have the math resources to trig ?
mircea_popescu: i misspoke., i don't care about that, it just has to be in a range
mike_c: um, what about what everybody else does. lookup table.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "and unusually sane 46 years (1520-1566) atop the throne, certainly compared to his successors" << certainly what
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: his successors were all "only mommy can make me dinner so i know it's not poisoned"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sadly i don't need it very precise, but it hastabe 0.3% or so.
mircea_popescu: aaaand i misspoke again. it has to produce about 300 different results is what i mean.
bounce: a trig table... in hardware!!!1!
mthreat: there's a street near me called Guise
mike_c: hehe. "I don't have time" 'then use space' "I don't like space!"
mike_c: physicists are probably looking for a 3rd option, but might take awhile.
kakobrekla: <mike_c> this activity is hurting kakobrekla's theory that bitbet need moar user friendly < i dont like the combination of these letters
mike_c: well, a valid question would be: how much user friendly would be required to pull in 500 btc in bets.
The20YearIRCloud: punkman: RENT's NAV is right around .01btc/share, so there's some value to new shares @ the reduced amount even of .0075 with as low as BTC/USD is. It wasn't my preference to close down market, but if my investor indication goes through they'll all be sold within a week and the fund will be back to normal activity.
mike_c: please, beauty. none. helen was a thin pretense.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> physicists are probably looking for a 3rd option, but might take awhile. << all you need is love...
mike_c: and wtf, doesn't helen have one l?
mircea_popescu: 18<mike_c> please, beauty. none. helen was a thin pretense. << for what, gayola ?
mike_c: helen was a thin pretense for the launching of ships. kinda like WMD.
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I got the posters today, I had a question about redemption of the prize or whatever - Do the claimants just get on here and post a link to a photo, are there any other requirements?
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud pretty much. we're going to limit it if there's anything looking like fraud, but otherwise, just show up in here and hold the poster up
mircea_popescu: sorta like the tits thing worked, but without the tits.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as is 'user friendly' << no, he has it kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: "user friendly" is a post hoc explanation just like "he's handsome&cool" is a pill against morning after remorse.
The20YearIRCloud: nubbins`: Regarding our SEC filing, Havelock & FPAI act as intermediaries (Which the SEC allows) Separating the US entity from Havelock. Our laywer has run the setup through several other legal advisors at the SEC and they all feel it's the best setup for what we're doing.
mike_c: kakobrekla: i felt like that conversation the other day started in the middle. what is your position exactly?
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I'm going to write up a letter/note and give a poster & instructions to each one of my tenants, then offer a discount if they use BTC to pay for their rent( even if it's a fraction of the rent). But that will only account for 15 of the 50 posters, so I was gonna run a few contests on our FB page (If that's ok with you?) for the remainder
☟︎ The20YearIRCloud: I'd rather give a few away, it can take a while for us to churn through tenants & expand, running a contest would boost our FB page severely too :D
mircea_popescu: well yes im sure it would, but the idea is for them to go to actual tenants.
The20YearIRCloud: Which is why i brought it up with you now, as I don't want to give a few away and then them yell at me saying they couldn't claim their 0.1btc
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud im sure nubbins` will gladly make you a dedicated fb or employee poster. kid's talented.
The20YearIRCloud: I wasn't sure if the posters were earmarked exclusively for tenants only
kakobrekla: mike_c that 'nice package' of a 'good product' does not turn off the buyers after the 'good product'.
assbot: CoinTerra Opens Pre-Orders for First 16nm Bitcoin ASIC
mike_c: but the implication being that BB does not currently have nice package?
mike_c: intel is on what, 14 nm?
assbot: Intel Has 5 nm Processors in Sight
kakobrekla: mike_c nice package is mostly for superficial people. to those i think it does not cater well.
assbot: MITAP SBADO 27: Parque Centenario -> San Bernardo : argentina
bounce: apparently the process size numbers have become all but meaningless
mike_c: so in this case perhaps superficial = casual gambler.
mike_c: i don't think package is the issue there. more the parimutuel/weight system.
kakobrekla: mike_c sometimes the line from product and package is hard to determine, seems to me.
kakobrekla: but tat you can still have both, nice fonts AND correct math. in theory.
mike_c: i don't like circle's look. not as good as ethereum.
ThickAsThieves: oh yeah the other day you mentioned, you never heard of good package hurting good product
kakobrekla: do tell, mp came with one (and not great one)
ThickAsThieves: nonprofit agency pays more money for cheap-looking solicition materials (like, capital campaign mailers) so as not to look like they have plenty money to afford nicer package
kakobrekla: but nonprofits goal is to not make a profit, so that doesnt count.
ThickAsThieves: i'm showing how the nonprofit has awareness of the phenomenon
ThickAsThieves: if packaging doesnt suit audience, one or both parties may be alienated
bounce: what if americans understood irony?
kakobrekla: i thought 'good' implied 'appropriate'.
mike_c: nonprofit goal is to not book a profit, but they certainly want as much revenue as they can get.
kakobrekla: i also am not talking about "not evil"
ThickAsThieves: thin line between optimizing your communication and being manipulative
ThickAsThieves: just to inject a quick tangent, lately i've been thinking about how reality is essentially toxic, and of human relationship with it is in how it insulates from it.
bounce: so pain is the universe's fault?
ThickAsThieves: probly also restating mp's theories on not all men can be free
ThickAsThieves: ive started covering and hope to buy back in for realz under 400
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 428.4, Best ask: 428.53, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 428.4, 24 hour volume: 15009.87721379, 24 hour low: 415.0, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 438.112123888
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 321 @ 0.0075 = 2.4075 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Is Adulthood Dead? - Digg
assbot: MITAP SBADO 27: Parque Centenario -> San Bernardo : argentina
The20YearIRCloud: I don't think saying walter white wasn't an adult is kind of stupid
The20YearIRCloud: in my mind adulthood is the time when you stop thinking less about now and more about the future
The20YearIRCloud: then attempt to make decisions that look forward, trying to plan. Of course many people never get to that point
mircea_popescu: "Cuestión, nos vemos el sábado que viene y recuerden: al que hable de bitcoins lo tiramos al agua / invita un shot a todos / pela."
mircea_popescu: curious what the situation is like here if you assault some idiots in the street. fine or what ?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (48%) on Yes, 1195.58 B (52%) on No | closing in 4 months 4 weeks | weight: 44`485 (100`000 to 1)
The20YearIRCloud: I've met a few from there, they assure me with a little bit of cash you can do whatever you want
thestringpuller: interesting. i wonder if the suppression in price is at all related to this bet
mircea_popescu: so going in there and plowing a beating into the reddit crowd seems a decent use for a few bitcents.
assbot: SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.17399999 = 0.522 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: the links are dynamic sadly, so you might have to build it, but i will look up my order
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: ThickAsThieves don't.jump. << STOP! it's hammertime!
mthreat: mircea_popescu: nah the reddit kids are a friendly bunch, i've been to one of their parties
ThickAsThieves: rather, not a good laptop for fine linework and ruining your eyesight staring at small details ;)
mircea_popescu says "get a tablet" then remembers proper tablet was never made because apple got to it first.
assbot: DOGG buenos aires | Pick Up The Fork
assbot: DOGG: Getting It On Hot Doggy Style | Pick Up The Fork
assbot: SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: Why didnt I move to Estancia Cafayate in the Province of Salta
mircea_popescu: Isnt it wonderful how the “Casey Research Group “concludes that the best thing for you is to buy property from Doug Casey in crappy poor Argentina?. JAJAJAJAA!!!!
mircea_popescu: You’d think that being rich and loving a wine sipping, golf playing sophisticated lifestyle you’d be better off in Napa Valley or something, but no, the best thing for you is to go to the middle of nowhere Argentina and then go from there to a middle of nowhere province where land used to sell for a dollar a square mile, that is until good ol’ Doug bought it and his research now shows that its in your best intere
mircea_popescu: st to pay 300.000 a pop for a place in his Estancia… in one of the poorest provinces of Argentina… in the middle of the desert, where not a blade of grass would survive without artificial irrigation. JA!! Amazing what you can achieve with research!
mircea_popescu: i gotta say, the scammers here are just about this fucktarded.
mircea_popescu: i mean, nowhere near the smoothness one expects of the same operation in say maryland
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ferfal lives in the US now, for a while ;)
mthreat: with yugos instead of mustangs?
mircea_popescu: argentina... meh. i should be able to see the signs. meanwhile, their biggest bombing was of a 3 story jewish centre 30 years ago.
mircea_popescu: by this measure the us has been through all madmaxes in history.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the children chained / throats cut business, same goes to you as discussed with los_pantalones re that robbery gopro video.
mircea_popescu: does that schmuck look threatening to you ? and yet, inexplicably, he's alive. how ?
mircea_popescu: blind cavefish do not survive because they know not to upset cats
mircea_popescu: and also! it's generally gringos that are the scammers.
mircea_popescu: "Oh, you didn’t know? See, one of the differences between living in Buenos Aires and living in Salta, is that the life expectancy for males in Buenos Aires is 69,17, while in Salta its 66,17!!!! How Cool is that?! You get to kick the bucket while in your prime years, no one wants to be remembered like an old wrinkly man, rich or not. Why would you want to live in Buenos Aires and live a measly 4 years more of life?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if every land could every land were a duchy and russia'd consist of some land on the bug.
mthreat: 3 years here is like 4 years other places?
mircea_popescu: anyway, living in a dirt poor province has its advantages.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, it's the cheapest way to raise an army.
mircea_popescu: for another thing, it's the cheapest way to spread your carnal knowledge.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones i guess you're not the next stalin then.
mircea_popescu: "I’m in financial services and one of the researchers I read suggests"
mircea_popescu: fucking lamers these people. i read that, i think here's an aluminum sidings salesman trying to make it as an insurance salesman now
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 45(Y):55(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 21.68931212 BTC. Current weight: 15,387.
Duffer1: at what point does that become a gracious donation?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 415.0, Best ask: 415.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 415.0, 24 hour volume: 17059.74082261, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 435.262063823
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lmao. "crazy shit stick on all sides of weapon!!!!"
cazalla: well, that's an interesting price to wake up to
mircea_popescu: guy's excellent dude, i'm wiping my tears over here, chicks are doubled over on the floor laughing, you ruined my fucking work
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 410.31, Best ask: 410.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 410.33, 24 hour volume: 17399.49655314, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 434.783426284
thestringpuller: even if you didn't win this time remember, participation counts
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 410.5, Best ask: 412.77, Bid-ask spread: 2.27000, Last trade: 410.38, 24 hour volume: 17414.87561426, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 434.716551529
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October :: 9.69 B (45%) on Yes, 12 B (55%) on No | closing in 5 days 4 hours | weight: 15`353 (100`000 to 1)
gribble: Current Blocks: 321393 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 1166 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 55 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35414879261.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.72342
mircea_popescu: they proly gotta count it, come to terms with the fact the uk is gone, stuff.
mike_c: bitbet says scotland will stay with the UK
kakobrekla: lol i post a link here - next block there is 5 bets incoming.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, regardless of scotland. basque country, french canada, transylvania, there were a coupla hundred states at the start of the century
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no reason to have a country larger than hong kong.
mircea_popescu: most us states are too large, let alone the federal construct altogether.
mike_c: big countries eat small countries.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile china ate tibet but still is struggling with singapore.
mike_c: i guess this is true. it is only losing pieces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform engineering panics are however great. as far as the usg is concerned, they're cannibalistic
mircea_popescu: the people being kicked off are exactly the two bit farmers that it'd have had to rely on to expand its rule into this new fronteer
mircea_popescu: not like the indians are about to leave their ancestral homeland because the colonists dun like it no more.
mircea_popescu: anyway, from a purely geopolitical perspective... gutting the 51st us state is more than adequate escalation for the entire ukraine mess, much like the syria humiliation was more than adequate escalation for the ossetia mess.
mircea_popescu: for a guy that "doesn't understand how reality works", the situation in the field speaks well of putin.
assbot: xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.0007198 = 1.4396 BTC [+]
xanthyos: saved from panic selling due to a ban from otc. wonder why.
assbot: Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us : Bitcoin
mike_c: holy shit, i missed the 2nd 500
los_pantalones: idk, wences had to dig up 4 private keys from 1m underground in 4 countries ?
mircea_popescu: "Looking at those payouts, no one should take those bets, either for or against. The payout ratio is really, really bad if I read it correctly." << makes sense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0075 = 1.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Who is sending 1000 BTC to a site with no SSL? Any why would anyone trust this site anyways? People are stupid or it's fake."
mircea_popescu: "I own BitBet, the site with the thousands of Bitcoins in bets. Ask me anything"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one possibility yes. in fact, it's trivial to try and find a blockchain link to where the btc was before.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones well yes but the medium is the derpage.
mircea_popescu: "And sending 1000 BTC and waiting 5 months for the result when sites like this closing every day without notice is beyond stupid."
mike_c: TaT.. fess up. this is your short.
xanthyos: my new 72-year-old psychiatrist has not heard about bitcoin. it's not mainstream yet. growth is still possible.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos what the fuck are you doing with a 72yo psych
mike_c: only 1k btc short now ;)
mircea_popescu: you paid some guy 100 bux twice a week for 20 years, and he's not even sucking you off ?
mike_c: buckle up. tomorrow when warren says it was his bet, btcusd will explode.
mircea_popescu: can confirm - made an awesome bet on betsofbitco.in well over a year before the conclusion (had previously been paid out by them) - when it came time to pay up, the site stopped closing bets and then eventually just shut down. I bet .1btc when btc was ~$70 and I would of won around .5btc when btc was ~$800"
assbot: Sinquefield Cup: One of the most amazing feats in chess history just happened, and no one noticed.
mircea_popescu: yeah, basically, idiocy spreads through exactly this mechanism.
mircea_popescu: lol cameron and john major. and tony blair. "please don't break out heart"
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 415.04, Best ask: 416.82, Bid-ask spread: 1.78000, Last trade: 416.85, 24 hour volume: 18332.47850390, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 432.816883003
assbot: English news report with the cat lady that owns 130 cats - YouTube
mircea_popescu: The Gas Price Spike Act, H.R. 3784, would apply a windfall tax on the sale of oil and gas that ranges from 50 percent to 100 percent on all surplus earnings exceeding "a reasonable profit." It would set up a Reasonable Profits Board made up of three presidential nominees that will serve three-year terms. Unlike other bills setting up advisory boards, the Reasonable Profits Board would not be made up of any nominees fro
mircea_popescu: The bill would also seem to exclude industry representatives from the board, as it says members "shall have no financial interests in any of the businesses for which reasonable profits are determined by the Board."
mircea_popescu: the country has to be run by what exactly, lefty social media experts ?
The20YearIRCloud: And the oil industry has pathetic margins, apple is the king of margins on $1b+ companies
mircea_popescu: actually washington is the king of margins. al gore makes a trillion % on his "trade carbon" mafia scam.
The20YearIRCloud: and even more aggrivating is the mindless fools that support those policies
mircea_popescu: better reasons to be aggrieved. like the fact that there's no low cpu replacement for sine.
The20YearIRCloud: One of the guys that always supports crap like that whom I talk to once in a while works for apple
The20YearIRCloud: Always funny him defending their 20%+ margin yet slamming walmart for their 5.6% and exxon's 8%
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla they got a lotta useless employees you see.
mircea_popescu: i want something with like 3 additions and a division.
jurov: or lol, if the platform has good rng, do monte carlo
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 416.0, Best ask: 417.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.95000, Last trade: 417.98, 24 hour volume: 18805.13675508, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 432.20570792
mircea_popescu: 410 is cheaper than 490, which is cheaper thjan the 500s it was which is cheaper than 700 etc
mircea_popescu: miss scarlet, you've had a child now, and you ain't never gonna be 17 and a half again
assbot: Techies Are Now Panhandling For Funding
mircea_popescu: it's not panhandling, it's being creative and changing the world revolutionizing,.
mircea_popescu: really ycombinator's celebration of the uber scammors sordid approach is the moment there.
mircea_popescu: "When forces that are hostile to socialism try to turn the development of some socialist country towards capitalism, it becomes not only a problem of the country concerned, but a common problem and concern of all socialist countries."
mircea_popescu: the brejnev doctrine survived both brejnev and the soviet union! give the guy obama's nobel prize i say.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 433.66, Best ask: 433.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 431.2, 24 hour volume: 19974.69850384, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 431.818620067
mike_c: long puts = short difficulty
gribble: Current Blocks: 321405 | Current Difficulty: 2.9829733124040417E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 322559 | Next Difficulty In: 1154 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 28 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35364022510.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.55293
mircea_popescu: seriously, the sort of imbecile that came up with this plan to push btc downwards on pure spin, while the diff is up bitbet is pointing the other way...
mircea_popescu: think more, desk people. hire BingoBoingo. do something, on your own you're worthless.
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 198 Ask: 245 Last Price: 198 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
atcbot: 45k@282 8k@260 2k@245 | 80k@198 6k@194 12k@190
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 198 Ask: 245 Last Price: 198 30d-Vol: 152k 30d-High: 221 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 181
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 300997.11 in 1009 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.97
mircea_popescu: you don't become employable by aging, you're not wine.
Duffer1: scotland polls closed, counting time
mircea_popescu: well sure but one never know what kids be reading, get the wrong idea.
assbot: Place prediction on: Will Bitbet.us Berkshire bet resolve to YES
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BingoBoingo: los_pantalones: No, great Marketing on BitBet that its competitors have to make bets on BitBet bets
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 427.93, Best ask: 428.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 428.0, 24 hour volume: 21423.75818318, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 431.700539902
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 428.5, vol: 21444.53124745 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 414.747, vol: 13295.37209 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 431.62, vol: 37599.14920367 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 426.956013, vol: 30340.54810000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 503.18147, vol: 18.12199892 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 430.036238742, vol: 167.41885582 | Volume-weighted last average: 427.423087606
mircea_popescu: i suppose its sensible, bitbet is a good signal source.
mircea_popescu: <los_pantalones> or is this blatant theft of contract specs ? << nah, bitbet is designed/intended as a backstop for an infinity of independent repackagers/customer oriented bookies and assorted venues.
mircea_popescu: let people serve their own customers as best they can, and let them have a liquid and powerful marketplace where to unload unwanted risk.
mircea_popescu: also completely winds kakobrekla's gui arguments, but this time from the right direction :))
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between being loved and being useful.
thestringpuller: look at mp and asciilifeform droppin' dat wisdom shit up in here
mircea_popescu: "This event was created to demonstrate the different betting systems. We believe strongly in the superiority of our betting system and expect the the odds for both outcomes to be significantly better on our site."
mircea_popescu: it has actually happened to me once that dumbass gas station kid put diesel in gasoline v8 engine
mircea_popescu: i also know first hand of a case where sleepy truck driver put gasoline in his truck. figured it out after ~200 liters in. had to suck it back out
ThickAsThieves: "We believe strongly in the superiority of our betting system and expect the the odds for both outcomes to be significantly better on our site. " i cant even think of what that might mean
mircea_popescu: maybe they figure starting over at weight 100k is somehow going to overrule starting over at 0 pool.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: line operators must be protected from themselves, too, lest the company be held liable for their idiocy. "actuation button A 2.5 ft to the right of press, B 2.5 to the left, press does not fire unless both actuation buttons are pressed together"
ben_vulpes: i always enjoyed imagining the creative ways people might try to circumvent my anti-idiot devices.
ben_vulpes: probably the only enjoyable part of that job.
ben_vulpes: now i've given up on jobs being enjoyable.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2014 04:57:13; asciilifeform: in oil prospecting, salvage diving, etc. there is a concept where safety measures that the crew will not follow because they 'seen ridiculous' - are useless
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1304 @ 0.00071999 = 0.9389 BTC [+]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 419.08, Best ask: 420.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.92000, Last trade: 419.08, 24 hour volume: 22116.05561929, 24 hour low: 407.94, 24 hour high: 453.94, 24 hour vwap: 430.465775042
assbot: xkcd: e to the pi Minus pi
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
assbot: No, Apple probably didnt get new secret govt orders to hand over data | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know the notice that says you haven't been issued a warrant, that disappears when you have. Apple's diappeared.
mircea_popescu: "While Apple won't confirm it, the company has removed its warrant canary from its latest transparency report, issued this week. While this could mean that the company has received a new secret government order to provide user data, there is still another more likely possibility: it's not publishing warrant canaries at all."
mircea_popescu: likely because mah people been trying to keep me from armflailing fits
assbot: apoefjmqdsfls comments on Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us
chetty: <mircea_popescu> likely because mah people been trying to keep me from armflailing fits// that will be the day
ThickAsThieves: Bet created: "Cat 1 or Greater Hurricane to Strike Eastern Seaboard" /// noooooooooo
assbot: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal
assbot: TeamFairlay comments on Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us
TheNewDeal: funny because people were just talking about scamsites that disappear over night, e.g. bitco.in
TheNewDeal: " placed a small bet on No early on, due to the weight. I believe the bet will resolve as Yes, but the payout on No was great at the time.
TheNewDeal: I bet this was the whale's plan the whole time."
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla will end up with them killing each other over who's the real true inheritor of bitbet
ThickAsThieves: so many posts in that reddit start with 'i dont have a clue wtf i'm talmbout, but..."
TheNewDeal: some bets do need lots of clarification, almost immediately
ThickAsThieves: teamfairlay = we are awesomer because you can bet however you want, with 100s of satoshis on the line!
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assbot: Man in Standoff With Texas Police Is Sending Live Updates From Whisper
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before they start paying people to do this
mircea_popescu: "Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ""We have confirmation from the interior of the vehicle that this is indeed the guy in the standoff," Slade Sohmer"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's Nick Denton's Facebook knockoff, except super scam
kakobrekla: ok ok i got it: american waterfall watering nazi zombies!
assbot: If Scotland leaves, what happens to UK’s flag? - Ideas - The Boston Globe