assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46716 @ 0.00083426 = 38.9733 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: IRS Speak >> "…public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3)."
BingoBoingo: …public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3).
assbot: Page not found | Jim Nelson / Yorba blog archives
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18534 @ 0.00083329 = 15.4442 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: WarOfLife (S.WOL), July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: s.wol is carrying a lot of capital, but i think rather than pay dividends it's probably wider to just hold on to it for a little.
mircea_popescu: f.mpif if making very little on its outlay, but i think it'll stick supporting wol for a while longer.
mike_c: well, i guess making dust for mpif was better than losing dust for mpif.
mod6: thestringpuller: what up
ben_vulpes: so return on capital is like zero in btc?
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: first month tho, how many businesses show a clear hundred in their first month.
ben_vulpes: this leads to an interesting problem for the btc-denominated tech company manager: how do i spend as little as possible on ongoing development while still keeping things up and moving forwards?
kakobrekla: ah, i was thinking whole mpif including my small part.
mike_c: ben_vulpes: the tech company manager writes more code themself.
mike_c: hm, it takes longer, but not that much longer. because you are faster than whoever you'd hire to do it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 199 @ 0.00309995 = 0.6169 BTC [+]
mike_c: you can't tell me to shaddup. i do what i want!
dignork: mircea_popescu: as an expert in nothing, the writing is "only xyz's cock" , xyz is probably a happy owner
dignork: +mircea_popescu | and for the conlang experts : wtf's this say ? // only daddy's cock
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, I'm takling the inflamed swollen red thing above the second D in Daddy.
dignork: BingoBoingo: destroyer of magic/killer of ponies
thestringpuller: not ageist or anything, just seems to be the general pattern
thestringpuller: yes as they tell you about how they have to pick up their kids from school soon as you fuck them during guiding light
dignork: thestringpuller: acquired taste i suppose
mircea_popescu: "how you doing ? " "busy" "so come over" "oh baby i can't, gotta drop off the kid to ballet class" "so drop her off to her ballet class and come over for a ballet class of your own" "mmmmmmm okay"
dignork: mircea_popescu: that pic should be used as CAPTCHA somewhere
mircea_popescu: dignork you now know reason #48768459 my write-on-tits thing is valuable. don't tell asciilifeform :)))
Vexual: Oh, Daddy, I thought it was an irish thing
mircea_popescu: mpif report is out. apparently this month we lost almost a whole bitcoin SOMEHOW
mircea_popescu: teh managers plus all teh specialists pls to look into it make sure there's no mistakes ty.
mircea_popescu: "a while back i finally figured out what makes a good relationship." << from, of course, reddit.
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
Vexual: It might say Paddy, they look like rosary beads
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00083312 = 12.9967 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant.
mike_c: bitbet profit includes partial satoshis too :)
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021699 B (Total: 474.52 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
mike_c: another month, a clean slate. good luck managers!
Vexual: and remember luckies, good management
Vexual: what are gracious donations to shareholders? re bitbet
BingoBoingo: Vexual: People who send bets on things that have already been closed.
BingoBoingo: Because often this means the condition to satisfy the bet has already happened
Vexual: bitbet seems to run quite efficiently
Vexual: presumably hes off being efficient
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant. <<< me too. sadly...
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
gribble: pierre_rochard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Pierre_Rochard> mircea_popescu: ah, well I’ll myself out then
Vexual: pankakke might be a good acct
Vexual: he doesnt miss a trick
Vexual: it might be beneath him, but with his charting it might be mutually beneficial
Vexual: im not trying to belittle accountants, but in my experience, there are two kinds, and you prolly need a third
nam-shub: I know a guy that sends numbers to accountants all day -- he desperately wants more bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3506 @ 0.00083323 = 2.9213 BTC [+]
nam-shub: I know a guy who can assemble random financial transactions for consumption by the accounting community. more or less in an automated fashion. (There was a discussion prior about a b-a accountant.)
Vexual: does he give advice or do what he's told?
nam-shub: often gives advice and is told what to do instead
nam-shub: but generally just does what he's told
peterl: mircea_popescu: your MPOE report mentioned a new advertising listing, has this been discussed here?
peterl: is it going to be called S.AD?
mircea_popescu: peterl nah, s.van. it's been discussed, some pople are alphaing it.
ben_vulpes: The20YearIRCloud: how'd the con call go?
peterl: ok, I'll keep digging through the logs some more
The20YearIRCloud: Pretty good, no complaints, everyone was excited about the news, not happy about the complaint or two I got on the forum afterwards, but then I can't please everyone it seems
mircea_popescu: so when i release this latest letter from stan, i think some people's brains will pop.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> s.van? why not s.wagen << nice.
Vexual: a furious fit in the shit pit from a mick dick, trying to make her slit chink
The20YearIRCloud: Hoping the bank gets approval soon for us, that way we can go onto this student housing project soon
Vexual: ^thats for you fluffypony
gribble: Error: "yivkrtticker" is not a valid command.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.98, Best ask: 583.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 583.98, 24 hour volume: 5577.83784841, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00350105 / 0.00395441 / 0.00419693 (257 shares, 1.01628376 BTC), 7D: 0.00305500 / 0.00384313 / 0.00420000 (4507 shares, 17.32100546 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00413516 / 0.00540000 (12285 shares, 50.80045884 BTC)
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: that I haven't been responding recently to all the accusations against myself and or the choices I've made
The20YearIRCloud: At least , I think that's what they were about, one notable one was my choice of director for the HK corporation we have, and the other was complaints about a website I started 5 years ago
The20YearIRCloud: Yes, in order to try and be SEC complaint, all the shares go through a HK holding corporation
peterl: I don't think the RENT forum complaints come from investors
The20YearIRCloud: None do, however in this case I had a investor complain because I wasn't addressing the concerns from those individuals
Vexual: if i was an invextor id ask when the growth might arrive
The20YearIRCloud: Even though I explained to them it creates liability on my end because unless what I say goes through atty review, it opens the company up to liability.
The20YearIRCloud: And that's what investors should be concerned about : Timeframes, equity statements, income projections
Vexual: well, whers the new funding then?
The20YearIRCloud: We have preliminary approval finally from a lender who offered us pretty attractive terms, and the setup is essentially open-ended
Vexual: is it reasonable to realease info here?
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah , it's a 100k line of credit @ 5% or so and interest only payments, we use LOC to go out and buy new properties, rehab them then refinance the property to cashout the LOC
The20YearIRCloud: The refinance is prime + 2% as a commercial mortgage to our LLC, which is a pretty decent rate. The big benefit compared to just going out and refinancing all the properties at once is that the investors essentially won't see any decreases in the small dividends that they're getting now, only growth.
Vexual: why are your good ol boys so slow at fising a house?
The20YearIRCloud: Because we pay them 1/2 the rate that the fast contractors charge :D
The20YearIRCloud: On top of that, i've had to make the choice between quick repairs and losing them to other firms, and giving them all the work they can handle at a slower pace. They prefer working for me over other crews, but in order to speed up the rehab time, I have to hire more people. The more people I hire without a big budget, the higher the chance of regular layoffs
Vexual: but you have a crew you employ on a permenant basis?
The20YearIRCloud: Yes, they're fantastic. Right now we employ 2 guys full time who are doing virtually everything associated with repair/renovation
The20YearIRCloud: Yes, and that's why rehab is so slow, becuase they both have families, and my preference is not to give them a income rollercoaster
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.55, Best ask: 583.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 583.55, 24 hour volume: 5552.38589767, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0
The20YearIRCloud: asciilifeform: in our area, the median home value is around $100k, most of the properties we have are worth around $75k or so after rehab, so they're not really bad houses. Most of our renters have small-ish incomes and they don't want to mess with repairs
Vexual: well they might want a kick in the rectum wehn you ge some more cahs
The20YearIRCloud: Most people I've talked to don't have the cash outlay to fix say a $4k roof when the time comes, and they make the choice of renting so someone else has to deal with it.
The20YearIRCloud: Outside of the multi-family properties we have that we haven't been able to renovate, all our properties are very nice
peterl: currently US banks require a large down payment to get a mortgage, USians have no savings, therefore they can't buy a house
The20YearIRCloud: Correct, and many don't have good credit either, most americans can't manage their money
The20YearIRCloud: The last house we bought was $23k, and it is in fantastic shape - New electric, new plumbing, ~1200sf and the woodwork throughout is from 1890
cazalla: 75k for a house, that's just the deposit in this suburb :\
The20YearIRCloud: Not all areas like that - In our area, $175k-$200k will get you 3000-4000 finished square feet
The20YearIRCloud: One house I worked with sold at $155k and was over 6,000 finished square feet, came with a full granite wet bar in the basement with a walking sauna
assbot: Malpidity | Bingo Blog
Vexual: you couldn't flip a house if it was already upside down
Vexual: got a sheet of foolscap?
Vexual: i thought you were an olschool accountant
The20YearIRCloud: Nope, i'm not oldschool anything I can think of, unless you're into ww2 stuff :D
Vexual: protip: you'll need a pencil
Vexual: this is the part where you do something
BingoBoingo: The20YearIRCloud: Vexual is a Markov Chain
mthreat: i have a theory that everyone is a markov chain, but some of us are larger chains than others
The20YearIRCloud: I've never met a markov chain that put reasonable responses together
mthreat: mircea_popescu: which thing
Vexual: now kick those good old boys hard just behind the balls and turn the paper 180
mthreat: mircea_popescu: oh, hmm not sure. i'm actually working for a local startup. I'm a working stiff again.
The20YearIRCloud: Let it be known - I tried to explain company concepts to a bot
mthreat: mircea_popescu: if I can make it, i'll be there. Ya, just working in the afternoons right now, for a month test
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mthreat: mircea_popescu: michelle will be there
mircea_popescu: "I'm not surprised you get along well with all the other neighbours. If you put fifty children with Down's syndrome in a room there is going to be a lot of hugging." << hawthorne should be quoted more often.
mthreat: ya michelle rodriguez is hot alright
mthreat: mircea_popescu: who, michelle rodriguez? don't you watch fast & furious movies??
mthreat: cars, explosions, breaking laws of physics
mircea_popescu: Whereas historically a maliciously stupid idea might be contained by geography and manage to make one village suffer while its neighboring town dismissed it, the Internet allows the maliciously stupid to grow self reinforcing networks where they can oppose cognitive function together. << "oppose cognitive function together altogether" lol.
mircea_popescu: The malpid don't have to establish that criticism of them as wrong, because they will instead insist the criticism is mean. When their favored shiny object betrays them, they will insist the criticism could not have been right as it was mean and they were doomed by some nebulous concept; perhaps they invoke "events that transpired", maybe they invoke "people were mean and that destroyed confidence in out project", but
mircea_popescu: whatever they invoke will have been "outside their control".
mircea_popescu: this dude sorta sits there and chats for a while, then makes a post that makes you suspect maybe he understands a lot more than he lets on.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15822 @ 0.00083323 = 13.1834 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Well, this idea had been floating around in my head since the middle of last week and the recent Trilema posts offered the linguistic tools to attack this problem.
ben_vulpes: "Eliminated /all/ dependencyii on our microcontroller manufacturer’s (Microchip Inc.) build chain and libraries"
ben_vulpes: dang. so was last december an intentional red herring?
punkman: rewriting the build chain, building pick n place from scratch, so punk
mircea_popescu: let's just hope he doesn't figure out how to make girls before he finishes cardano
BingoBoingo: With all of these tools, I have to wonder what the hell is on order for the second product
mircea_popescu: so about... well just about five years ago i did this thing where i gave a free domain + free cpanel hosting to a bunch of romanian bloggers that seemed more or less okay.
mircea_popescu: all this living on a server somewhere, meanwhile forgotten about
mircea_popescu: today i went through the logs. guess how many of these blogs sitll exist today ?
mircea_popescu: one exists as a private only thing, the other not updated since 2013
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform blows dust off '2nd product' prototype... << Is it a hammer? Just a simple, heavy, old fashioned breaking shit hammer?
mircea_popescu: wait. isn't a piece of armor made out of floor tile actually going to SHARPEN the blade on its way in ?
mircea_popescu: i know i sometimes crack a tile to make a sharpener if in a pinch
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Season 3 episode 4 of "Doomsday Preppers" was mining show for lulz to write on in comparison to Doge et all.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Armor defeated .22 LR and 12 gauge birdshot (thanks to the plate steel used) Failed to .30-06
punkman: string and phonebook would have worked better than ceramic tile
BingoBoingo: This particular idiot tested this with 12 gauge again in a worn test.
assbot: OH thats got to hurt - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "my name is ethel mormon and this is the raquetball trick"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> wait. isn't a piece of armor made out of floor tile actually going to SHARPEN the blade on its way in ? << You forget 'Murican series with subsequent blindspot towards sharp objects as a thing to armor against.
mircea_popescu: right, because if i gotta kill some idiots on a hallway somewhere im going to take an anti tank missile launcher
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 499 @ 0.00220054 = 1.0981 BTC [-] {3}
Vexual: fast and furious? machete more like
assbot: Tank biathlon: The bizarre new sport invented by the Russian military is just like biathlon... but with tanks.
BingoBoingo: "The teams have all been provided with Russian T-72B tanks, except for the Chinese, who apparently came with their own vehicles."
BingoBoingo: ^ The Chinese working on cultivating another export market?
Vexual: remember alibaba 5 years ago?
Vexual: military tank was a valid search term
ben_vulpes: the best i've come up with isn't even complete
ben_vulpes: "a cryptographically-secured distributed record of transactions"
mircea_popescu: it's just the current label for bitcoin and bitcoin-forks
Vexual: bingoboingo: it was the drones that started the emails flying
ben_vulpes: "a cryptographically-secured transaction ledger"?
mircea_popescu: a lot more thought will have to go into SPECIFYING B ITCOIN
ben_vulpes: still a cool thing to hack on for anyone who wants to write hard software but not make any more.
ben_vulpes: one can run a ripple client. it's not a bitcoin fork.
Vexual: benkay, why not shell into your neighbours dishwasher if you need your dishes done?
BingoBoingo: Eh, the only distributed OMGWTFBBQ chain necessary is the one that tracks BTC/Tide prices
assbot: Damon Casarez photographs young adults who’ve moved back in with their parents.
Vexual: incidetally, whats a satoshi called in atc? a tat?
Vexual: i wonder if the models were paid?
Vexual: those photographs have an arty expensive aire to them
Vexual: bb: i was thinking tit for tat
BingoBoingo: Maybe they should be called Durians as in the fruit
BingoBoingo: Because it inflicts that look on bystander's faces.
Vexual: any comments on the months atc trade bb?
assbot: July Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
Vexual: i was asking about feels
Vexual: i understand if you can't comment
Vexual: would you prefer more voluminousness?
Vexual: also my previous unaswered question, what does 1th do to atc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 242 @ 0.00219613 = 0.5315 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: ATC market is fine. It's nice to have ATC on hand again.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 258 @ 0.0020917 = 0.5397 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: ATC's been pretty stable and that ain't bad.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.78, Best ask: 587.74, Bid-ask spread: 1.96000, Last trade: 585.77, 24 hour volume: 5616.69154623, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 240 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 15k High: 248 Low: 203 VWAP: 203
ben_vulpes: man, the spread on atc's pretty steep.
atcbot: 17k@250 2k@248 5k@240 | 35k@203 88k@202 50k@195
Vexual: i dunno wha benks definition of tight is
Vexual: however it's not unreasonable to assume you might be susceptible to more hash and more bc
Vexual: did you ever make a loss on leu
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Nah, a small profit, but... The way BTC and fiat move against each other...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00083682 = 14.3096 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "No warnings or instructions could be devised that would effectively communicate the [ingestion] hazard so that the warnings and instructions could be understood and heeded by consumers to reduce the number of magnet ingestion incidents."
assbot: We Will Fight Until The End | Zen Magnets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9877 @ 0.00083994 = 8.2961 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26778 @ 0.00084242 = 22.5583 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00084345 = 37.9553 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18472 @ 0.00083926 = 15.5028 BTC [-]
Vexual: ;;rate punkman +1 excelling human
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user punkman has changed from 1 to 1.
Vexual: hm, that deletes the other
Vexual: ;;rate punkman +1 excelling human sexy curses
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user punkman has changed from 1 to 1.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00084589 = 17.3407 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27438144 = 0.5488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00084711 = 9.0539 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25839 @ 0.00084553 = 21.8476 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9692 @ 0.00084387 = 8.1788 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 145 @ 0.01133 = 1.6429 BTC [-]
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 436038.44 in 245 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -36.55
gribble: Current Blocks: 314064 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 431 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19670712342.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.98638
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00084441 = 5.4042 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7358 @ 0.00084387 = 6.2092 BTC [-]
assbot: Friendship paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
punkman: was just playing with otc database, friendship paradox seems to be true
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2772998 = 0.8319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20351 @ 0.00083926 = 17.0798 BTC [-]
cazalla: that's useful for keeping a log, almost a month since i had a few
cazalla: actually, that's not right at all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30842 @ 0.00084048 = 25.9221 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00084485 = 13.6021 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: <+ben_vulpes> what does "cryptocurrency" mean? "Protocol for issuing, storing, and transacting units of itself cryptographically" how bout that?
ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> incidetally, whats a satoshi called in atc? a tat? /// altoshi
ThickAsThieves: I flirted with calling ATC "satoshis" altcoins and ditching the decimal, but that would require reliable programmers for hire to fill my fleeting whims when i have them
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: I think the best move is to always refer to the Altcoin equivalent of satoshis as something different in every conversation.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 64 @ 0.01067348 = 0.6831 BTC [-] {11}
BingoBoingo: Maybe call ATC satoshi equivalents "Doge" for the lulz...
ThickAsThieves: i'm currently lolling to 27bslash6 posts ive already read 3 times in the past
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: It's one of those things that you stumble into ever year or three and have to digest the archives then wish there was more.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5608 @ 0.00084348 = 4.7302 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.27596133 = 4.1394 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.27495769 = 3.5744 BTC [-] {2}
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1605.29 GH/s
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 433462.40 in 240 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -36.92
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9934 @ 0.00084205 = 8.3649 BTC [-]
assbot: Goldman Sachs: Heres What Will Happen When Fed Raises Rates - MoneyBeat - WSJ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.27501 = 2.7501 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: wallet wasnt working, trying to load some kinda free bitcoin promo
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Shakespeare: "A federal magistrate signed three separate search warrants: one for each of the three hidden services. The warrants authorized the FBI to modify the code on the servers to deliver the NIT to any computers that accessed the sites. The judge also allowed the FBI to delay notification to the targets for 30 days."
assbot: How the U.S. got mixed up in a fight over Kurdish oil with a unified Iraq at stake - The Washington Post
Shakespeare: " the most troubling soundbite arises when Goldman asks if OkCupid would consider bringing in an ethicist to vet the experiments.
Shakespeare: Rudder’s response: “To wring his hands all day for a hundred thousand dollars a year?”"
assbot: OkCupid’s human experiments weren’t that bad — but its cofounder’s flippant attitude over user ethics is | PandoDaily
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.26502971 = 2.1202 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.26300004 = 3.156 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: spider sense is tingling over there not having been a closed/hacked btc exchange lately...
assbot: Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18765 @ 0.00084576 = 15.8707 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71467340 BTC to 12`777 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 17.24982000 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1500 satoshi per share
fluffypony: you have to admit, though, he's a good salesman
thickasthieves: well he speaks his variety of variety speak at least...
punkman: now they just need to hold on to that 15k BTC, but something tells me it will find its way to various chumpatrons
Apocalyptic: <fluffypony> you have to admit, though, he's a good salesman // you mean Vitalik ?
punkman: fluffypony: is it good salesmanship, or are the derps just begging for more Mastercoins and Ripples
Apocalyptic: I somehow lost track about how is Ethereum doing lately
fluffypony: punkman: I think he has EXTREMELY good hand-waving ability
fluffypony: he speaks the technical lingoz and waves hands and everyone goes "omfg yes, applications on the blockchain, the future!!!"
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> <+ben_vulpes> what does "cryptocurrency" mean? "Protocol for issuing, storing, and transacting units of itself cryptographically" how bout that? << nicely recursive
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00215952 = 2.1595 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> <+Vexual> incidetally, whats a satoshi called in atc? a tat? /// altoshi << quit being so modest
ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> "How many ATC do you have?" "One million bajillion!" << hue
assbot: Coinbase | Why do I have to provide extra informati...
thickasthieves: maybe they should make you say why youre buying them too
BigBitz: didn't bistamp ask people for miner receipts etc? previously...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 892 @ 0.00215976 = 1.9265 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: <fluffypony> you have to admit, though, he's a good salesman << How do you know much of it wasn't a hail mary with his own kitty?
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure this isn't like MaidSafe - Vitalik does the tour circuit, and he's been building up to this for a while
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00215977 = 0.6479 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, you have to fight their Pidgin with jargon
fluffypony: so I think he's convinced enough people that he holds the key to the future
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Vitalik's also been pulling shenanigans like Bitcoin Magazine for a while
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1120 @ 0.00215977 = 2.4189 BTC [+] {3}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014"
http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.928482 BTC. Current weight: 40,835.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27556 @ 0.0008473 = 23.3482 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Meet the SEC's 6,500 Whistleblowers - WSJ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.263 = 0.526 BTC [-]
punkman: "The program has brought in more than $150 million in restitution and fines via five cases from eight whistleblowers. That has translated to more than $15 million in payments to the whistleblowers, including a $14 million jackpot to one person. "
assbot: The pseudo-Bitcoinsphere feels just as squishy-poo as the Romanian pseudo-blogosphere felt five years or so ago. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: mp "what's wrong with using blogs.b-a for a news source ?" op "What’s wrong with it is that if you visit with an iOS device, you’re redirected to a page that says “no hipsters allowed.”"
pankkake: it's on the whole server, iP*ds are banned
pankkake: sometimes I think of banning all macs and all chromes, or removing the thing
punkman: mircea_popescu: numbers what do they even mean
mircea_popescu: i mean, so they're hipsters. we don't take them to bed. you won't even sell them liquour now ?
pankkake: for the lulz, though I've had enough lulz after a few years
pankkake: by the way, images are replaced by goatse for ip*ds
pankkake: (and it used to be only goatse)
pankkake: so, removing it for now. I might enable it on some domains only
ben_vulpes: can we get log.bitcoin-assets.com styled for mobile too?
ben_vulpes: survant james'd be happy to do it for 1 BTC
pankkake: if you provide me with a CSS (or even a full template, venus, the thing used to generate the planet, has templates), I'll enable it
mike_c: ad network of the future
ben_vulpes: blame mircea_popescu the rules are his fault
ben_vulpes: compliments on technical excellence should be delivered to yours truly
mike_c: and now van-ads degenerates into us out-bidding each other to troll each other's blogs :)
mircea_popescu: actually i was going to make some announcements but IVE BEEN TOO BUSY SLEEPING AND WITH PERSONAL MATTERS
BingoBoingo: What, I tied of seeing the default van ads while compulsively reloading MPIF tracker
mike_c: ben_vulpes: why is it crooked?
assbot: WarOfLife (S.WOL), July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: crooked cocks just won't do.
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: because of ben_vulpes there's going to be a lot of extra ;;ident spam in here because fuck me if im going to type my keyid.
mircea_popescu: and add a fucking cr , im sick of fishing the otp out from 33ae4284-cdba-46a1-b0ae-8f94f23b74acmirce
ben_vulpes: what, pipe it into your os clipboard and call it a day
mircea_popescu: and actually speaking of it : making a collision for 4 byte short ids is not that hard. i hope you check against fingerprints ?
BingoBoingo: mike_c> and now van-ads degenerates into us out-bidding each other to troll each other's blogs :) << This is how markets begin.
mike_c: sure, gotta have a hook for early adopters
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 432598.45 in 227 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -37.05
gribble: Current Blocks: 314105 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 390 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19572633738.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.46292
pankkake: did you guys measure what percent of your readership are using adblockers?
mike_c: mircea_popescu, when does trilema join the future?
mircea_popescu: well aaactually that's part of what i was going to announce.
assbot: The pseudo-Bitcoinsphere feels just as squishy-poo as the Romanian pseudo-blogosphere felt five years or so ago. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: spoiler alert: trilema transitioning to contraquadlema
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 426 @ 0.00216002 = 0.9202 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84700 @ 0.00084825 = 71.8468 BTC [+] {3}
chetty: lmao, that magic serum they are testing for ebola, made from tobacco
mircea_popescu: i am having the cutest avocado in the whole world. roughly the size of an ovary.
chetty: I like the big ones better
mircea_popescu crafitly stops himself before saying something dumb like "about the same texture, too" and inadvertently giving the whole charade away
BingoBoingo: chetty> lmao, that magic serum they are testing for ebola, made from tobacco << Mouse antibodies made inside a tobacco plant!
chetty: BingoBoingo, yeah it actually sounds pretty yucky, but I suppose if you are about to die of ebola ...
BingoBoingo: The serum's basically 3 different antibodies for three different targets on the Ebola virus found by giving mice ebola until they could create clonal lines for the cells producing these antibodies and then making tobacco grow it all
chetty: mircea_popescu, apparently not, this serum appears to be curing it
BingoBoingo: Generally though if you get a monoclonal antibody that targets something, it's going to kill it. The remarkable thing is they went ahead and found three just to be safe.
mircea_popescu: this is sick, so basically they're inserting the missing antibodies thus allowing macrophages and whatnot to clear it ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The antibodies bind to the virus and... Boom
ben_vulpes: and here i was hoping for a new global pandemic
ben_vulpes: guess the biologists are useful after all
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Problem is scaling up production is a pain...
mircea_popescu: tbh i think this throws a monkey wrench in the future viability of "big pandemic" scenarios.
mircea_popescu: it's vanishingly improbable for an antibody to not exist. thus finding it becomes a matter of... well... how much hashing you're doing
BingoBoingo: Well, this stuff takes time, but yeah... One thing that makes this easier on Ebola and harder on say the flu though is... Ebola doesn't stay latent in cells
chetty: dont dispair, there are always prions
BingoBoingo: Also why there's no Aids serum working on this principle
mircea_popescu: actually, im glad i got you pinned here bb, cause i wanna run this by you see what you think.
mircea_popescu: so, aids "had no cure" for a while in the disco era. but then, late 80s/early 90s a certain thing was found that'd slow down its rate, adding 5 maybe 10 years le if well managed. after much hand wringing this was released to the public,
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo afaik there was. << Problem is living cells (where antibodies don't go) harbor the pathogen in the case of AIDs
ben_vulpes: (topical: .hiv pre-registration went up today)
mircea_popescu: only years later a 2nd thing was found. the magic involved was pretty evil, however :
ben_vulpes: (<Pilate> .hiv pre-registration up this morning... apparently i reserved spread.hiv, spreads.hiv, super.hiv, and selling.hiv)
mircea_popescu: if one had never taken pill 1, then a cocktail of 1+2 would stop the virus for them, pretty much resolving the problem. it'd never clear, but it'd never advance.
mircea_popescu: however, the people that had taken pill 1, then a cockail of 1+2 would be significantly less effecual.
mircea_popescu: basically making it a case of "fu for having taken our medicine".
mircea_popescu: recently a 3rd one was found, which actually clears it
mircea_popescu: and like last year something that works as a pre-emptor.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. AIDs and the resistance it develops is weird.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and like last year something that works as a pre-emptor. << Truvada is the trade name, but this pre-exposure prophylaxis thing has been common for exposed medical workers for years. The new thing is someone let the secret out of the bag.
mircea_popescu: i think the biggest problem bar none of modern society is that average derp can name a dozen "puas" or "important feminists" or whatever th fuck
mircea_popescu: yet i have no idea who even came up with those things.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck led the research effort that made ebola strain '#2 ?
mircea_popescu: who's in charge of the lab that raises the tobacco growing it ?
BingoBoingo: AIDs though is weird because of how the virus adapts to drugs in situ. Maybe part of this is just drugs that fight it do so by fucking with DNA/RNA expression... Maybe it is just that much of a natural asshole.
BingoBoingo: At least it isn't in the human genome like Herpes
BingoBoingo: Well, the it is definitely in particular person's genomes now, but... not across most of the species
mircea_popescu: think of it : monkeys don't suffer much from it, so it's been around for a while. sure yurpeans "discovered it" but it can't possibly be the first case of interaction.
mircea_popescu: for all you know it was part of the ancient egyptian genome, now extinct.
BingoBoingo: Imagine if Khan swung through Africa before hitting Europe and introduced diseases other than "classic" plague
mircea_popescu: in fact, it COULD be that aids-as part of genome is what makes niggers niggers. as unpleasant at that sounds, it's at least possible, scientifically. yet none of the speculative fiction folk with an axe to grind are using it.
BingoBoingo: Lack of historical Small Pox exposure made Americans vulnerable to distilled spirits?
mircea_popescu: that's the halmark of speculative fiction. it asks science "and why not" an' science dunno.
chetty: well these days most science seems to get the answer it wants first, then work backwards to the question
mircea_popescu: newton got hit in the head by a falling apple... "hmm how could i turn this bump into a research grant"
BingoBoingo: Speculative historical virology... Lots of ground for rich fiction.
mircea_popescu: i mean, the trope itself, "eschatological contagion" is like what, 1/3 of all of it ?
mircea_popescu: yet they never fucking bother to do anything with it, just rehash the same crap.
BingoBoingo remembers first discovering that Malaria, the exotic tropical disease was once endemic to the temperate Middle West
mircea_popescu: let me tell you something : 1950s romanian fiction about the life of romanian peastants cca 1900 includes malaria as a common disease.
BingoBoingo: Well, in places corn grows it has become exotic... DDT did some work
BingoBoingo: One of the University of Illinois's rare closures came to malaria ~100 years ago. But since the corn growing people here now lack history... Once endemic disease is now exotica
chetty: lack of history is a problem all across the spectrum
mircea_popescu: assbot: Damon Casarez photographs young adults who’ve moved back in with their parents. << i hope he photographs them with their clothes on in their own house. which is to say naked in the yard.
thickasthieves: now that bitcoin is stable, when do mpex options come back?
pankkake: I thought it was the lack of reputable exchanges
thickasthieves: why doesnt bitcoincharts.com allow you to build your own index
thickasthieves: incl as many exhcngaes as you like, volweight and convert
mircea_popescu: "Mikey Billings, 29, Statesville, North Carolina. Degree: B.A., film studies, Full Sail University. Career Goal: film or music industry. Current Job: working part time at a malt shop. Student Loans: $80,000."
mircea_popescu: right, because people who can't afford a piddly 100k are totally entitled to pursue their dreams now. and because people can learn how to make films. in school.
assbot: The S&P 500 Just Fell Out of Bed - Focus on Funds - Barrons.com
TomServo: mircea_popescu: On that topic, I've been meaning to ask for a while... I thought Gox was deemed to be of ill-repute well before the shutdown. So why was still seen as a viable price indicator until it's bitter end?
TomServo: And why are the current exchanges any less so?
thickasthieves: if i recall, i think mp thought they had removed gox, though that wasnt til close to the end
TomServo: I mean as far as the options market goes.
mircea_popescu: TomServo well it's a complex matter, like all history. for one thing, mtgox was a (diminishing, constantly diminishing) part of the total pool. it looked for a while like the problem may solve itself.
mircea_popescu: moreover, you gotta read the article in question, i'm not going to do random interpretations off the cuff at any random point it may happen to be discussed. at no point in there is it said "closing options because of mtgox's poor repute".
thickasthieves: oh i recall, you wanted to cover your ass and discovered that wasnt so easy
thickasthieves: partly i ask about options due to the new accounts being purchased at mpex
thickasthieves: i dont think there's been any notable volume outside of mpoe
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
BingoBoingo: "U.S. General Is Killed in Attack at Afghan Base, Officials Say"
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Seems fair, my mistake for conflating the two. I probably should've re-read before mentioning, but the timing worked so well. :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 506 @ 0.00216002 = 1.093 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Well, a good number of things have been IPO'ing these past few months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8308 @ 0.00085094 = 7.0696 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: what was the size of those though? and you imply people paid 30btc to buy SWOL FMPIF?
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: It is possible. People could also be anticipating future offerings.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 369 @ 0.00216002 = 0.797 BTC [+]
assbot: Argentina's Only Bitcoin Exchange Loses its Bank Accounts
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assbot: The euro as a precursor to Bitcoin | FT Alphaville
BingoBoingo: Alright, Imma nap and see what kinda trolling my ad slot gets...
assbot: F.MPIF Analysis - Btc Alpha
mike_c: thickasthieves: lol. "the fed is taking this SO SERIOUSLY that they had interns research it"
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> they are making accounts to buy what? << i think most people involved with mpex have a different outlook than most people involved with costco.
mircea_popescu: not necessarily a "what's on the shelf right now" mentality.
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> sry mp, looks like you have to move! << you know the derps haven't even come to pay homage ?
mircea_popescu: it's as if they somehow inhabit some imaginary sort of world where they're somehow important or something.
mircea_popescu: "Eric Curran, 23, Wahoo, Nebraska. Degree: B.A., history and religion, Midland University. Career goal: professor of Lutheran theology or history professor. Current job: education assistant at local public schools. Student Loans: $11,000."
mircea_popescu: "Jacqueline Boubion, 30, Diamond Bar, California. Degree: B.A. communications, California State University, Fullerton. Career goal: film director. Current job: production assisting in commercials and music videos. Student Loans: none, but $22,000 in credit card debt." << right. she's got problems.
thickasthieves: they are building themselves a new karpeles in buterin
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.264 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: The Post Office’s Biggest Customers Are FedEx, UPS - MoneyBeat - WSJ
assbot: Fear & Greed Index - Investor Sentiment - CNNMoney
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 6985 @ 0.00024963 = 1.7437 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 4708 @ 0.00017821 = 0.839 BTC [-] {25}
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves what solution does it offer ? essay competition ?
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Google Wallet to accept BTC"
http://bitbet.us/bet/742/ Odds: 4(Y):96(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.38270356 BTC. Current weight: 11,337.
assbot: Potato Salad: By the Numbers » The Kickstarter Blog — Kickstarter
mircea_popescu: "Zack’s project inspired some handwringing about What It All Means. Here’s one take: Kickstarter is a good place to aim high and go big, but small projects are great too"
mircea_popescu: no you fuckwits, it hasn't. it yielded a lot of ridicule for how kickstarter fails on both ends : it's not a way to get financed and it's not a way to allocate capital. well done.
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September"
http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 49.93375572 BTC. Current weight: 22,735.
mike_c: ^ good bet. not crossing 1000 until nov. 2nd
mike_c: some kind of swamp cooler?
decimation: nah it's illinois, they have 95% humidity in the summer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008977 = 4.4885 BTC [+]
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE
decimation: I suspect it's the same reason the subject in question paid more than $75k to go to Loyla to get... a pr degree... and was unable to get a job in pr as a twentysomething non-ugly chick
decimation: re: kickstarter : I think the real product is an illusionist's trick: I'm a somebody because I'm an investor, even though I'm investing chump change for the chumpatron
punkman: decimation: I think it's more fanboys and omg!gadgets! than "investors"
decimation: well, are they actually buying a product? or "investing" in the hope that the product will come to exist?
punkman: well depends on the product, donations to the church of SOLAR FREAKIN ROADWAYS is the latter
punkman: enthusiasts buying Oculus bought a product, just not as good as they imagined
punkman: it's good that they couldn't sell equity on kickstarter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0008977 = 0.8977 BTC [+]
decimation:
http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/ "The gold standard used to be the primary means through which the aristocracy got rid of weak or stupid monarchy, " << which is why leftist fantasy has always been the absolute state, which remakes the world according to their fantasy
assbot: Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27380 @ 0.00089481 = 24.4999 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00089192 = 4.4596 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so what does the group think, should i go to argentine law school ?
decimation: do you have to go to law school to practice law there?
mircea_popescu: i already live five blocks down from it, im already taking the sophomores out for a ride... mgith as well. pretty much everyone's a lawyer here anyway.
mike_c: yes. could you not teach yourself whatever you want to know faster then they could teach you?
mike_c: well then. unless you need a diploma.
mike_c: you said you're already getting the social benefits.
ben_vulpes: i just want to read the reports about the derpage.
mircea_popescu: besides, i miss being able to answer teh "occupation" query with "student"
ben_vulpes: i say "student of power" when people ask.
mircea_popescu: "At the beginning of May, my team and I were assigned to an exploratory project. Typically summer is the off-season and most of the projects are time fillers that result in a few papers/presentations and are then archived and never heard of again. This project was different. We were given a direct research assignment from the Board of Governors a few hours after the conclusion of their May 29th closed meeting."
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mircea_popescu: decimation the way it's supposed to work is that you can do it always if you have enough money.
decimation: ie, the local baron's word is law upon his land?
mircea_popescu: decimation pretty much. pick a baron you like for a place to do business
mircea_popescu: you know, the way... wait for it.. the way bitcoin works.,
decimation: and the king's power derives from the assent of said baron under the conditions the baron sets
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, the king's power derives from not substantially and unprofitably moving outside of the joint interest of the barons.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> re: kickstarter : I think the real product is an illusionist's trick: I'm a somebody because I'm an investor, even though I'm investing chump change for the chumpatron << you're quite correct, in that. it's reddit except expensive.
decimation: note that some chumpatronic engineers have actually used kickstarter to found successful business, but this is like trying to use panhandling to found a banking empire
mircea_popescu: re:mount on roof : the house is the shitty vinyl siding crap they do in the us. there was no place to attach it to the wall, as the thing has no walls.
mircea_popescu: decimation some woman parlayed a shoplifted pair of heels into a trip to ibiza. what of it ?
decimation: shitty house<< downer's grove is one of the richest suburbs of chicago btw
decimation: headquarters of mcdonalds & related bezzle business
decimation: I don't dispute your point, I just find the irony amusing
decimation: shitty businessmen build shitty homes to house do-nothing tweens
mircea_popescu: it was probably "affordable housing" as part of some development or w/e
decimation: lol I like that the only brick structure is the random chimney sticking through the middle of the roof in a random spot
decimation: but I suspect that everyone in that house considers themselves to be "rich"
mircea_popescu: no. they consider themselves to be sick, discriminated against and rape survivors.
mircea_popescu: the despicable vulgus considers itself whatever it is that pays. being rich doesn't pay anymore, it's much better to "have needs"
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare: Rudder’s response: “To wring his hands all day for a hundred thousand dollars a year?”" << happens to be the exactly correct response.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> <+Vexual> incidetally, whats a satoshi called in atc? a tat? /// altoshi << quit being so modest << a tit ?
mircea_popescu: decimation aka the schmukette in the previous image. noty.
mircea_popescu: validating these twerps is worse than giving them a salary.
decimation: which is why they are willing to work for no pay in 'internships', etc as long as they are working to overturn some heirarchy somewhere
mircea_popescu: i'd gladly pay them nothing at all while they worked at overturning their own hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure this isn't like MaidSafe - Vitalik does the tour circuit, and he's been building up to this for a while << so he's the new neoderp, whatever was that kid's name.
fluffypony: the one that was super young and so therefore knew how to handle money?
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mike_c: no, you guys don't get it. this time will be different. #etherrocks
decimation: interesting that its name derives from a substance whose existence was posited by pseudoscientists until maxwell et.al. set them straight
fluffypony: and nobody will be better off if they just held on to their Bitcoin
mike_c: here's an interesting question. of the BTC held by ethereum investors, what percentage did they give to vitalik?
mike_c: i can't even guess. i don't understand the thinking.
mike_c: people who bought ether.
mircea_popescu: they also account for roughly nothing% of that lolfest.
mircea_popescu: "Goldman Sachs Group Inc.GS -1.32% says it knows what’s going to happen
mircea_popescu: when the Federal Reserve starts raising interest rates. The quick takeaway: Stocks look much more attractive than bonds–at least through 2018."
mircea_popescu: dude seriously ? rising interest makes stock more attractive than bonds ?
pete_dushenski: pretty sure everything makes stocks go up, by usian logic
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ben_vulpes: well hang on if the company prices goods in inflating usd they can adjust pricing to match inflation. bonds, as the revered B sez, are a bad bad thing in inflationary situations 'cause paying a price now for money in the future that will be worth less. so confus.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what company can inflate prices to match inflation ?
ben_vulpes: coca cola, pfizer, budweiser, royal dutch shell?
mike_c: companies don't set prices, markets do.
mircea_popescu: right, so if they double gas price people just pay 2x as much for gas.
ben_vulpes: sure but when the 16 oz can becomes a 12 oz can with a strongly concave bottom, coca cola charging the same amount...
mircea_popescu: figure it out, man : if rates hike capital dries up. all of a sudden all the nude swimmers in the merger and acquisition smorgasbord are now up in thewinds.
mircea_popescu: how much are the shares of a company worth, that's bankrupt and can adjust prices to buffer inflation ?
kakobrekla: quick bb, ether will collect over 30k?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i should hope they will collect over 700k btc and change.
mike_c: kakobrekla: you betting no?
pete_dushenski: "Vladimir Putin has attempted to sidestep Western sanctions on Russia’s energy sector by signing a $20bn trade deal that could see his country become the largest importer of oil from Iran."
mircea_popescu: "Vladimir Putin has made a complete mockery of delusional US foreign policy yet again, this time anulling in one fell swoop decades of attempts to isolate Iran by signing a 700bn ruble deal".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00089299 = 26.3879 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: and e-mail subject line of the day goes to…. linkedin!
assbot: With Apologies to Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman | Bitcoinism
pete_dushenski: his new job is, you're not gonna believe this shit: dinner clubs
pete_dushenski: more lulz from linked in: "Anthony Di Iorio has added skills: Product Management"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13854 @ 0.0008848 = 12.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00088811 = 6.8829 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: <bitcodernoob> Can anyone help me with a problem. I have two wallet.dat's that I accidentally mixed up. Is there a way that I can findout which wallet.dat goes to which coin?
decimation: make copies, put in bit/altcoin profile directory and see which one is vaild after running the client?
decimation: the other alternative would be to understand the structure of the bdb file
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bitcodernoob <decimation> make copies, put in bit/altcoin profile directory and see which one is vaild after running the client?
ben_vulpes: <decimation> the other alternative would be to understand the structure of the bdb file
decimation: I doubt someone has made a simple-to-use gui tool to help a n00b identify a wallet.dat file, such a tool would be useful only to hacker harvesting such things...
assbot: US general assassinated in 'green-on-blue' shooting at Afghan army training base | Fox News
decimation: "An engineer by training, he was the deputy commanding general, Combined Security Transition Command-Afghanistan."
thickasthieves: I can haz advertiser network for devilsadvocate.biz plz?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i already live five blocks down from it, im already taking the sophomores out for a ride... mgith as well. pretty much everyone's a lawyer here anyway. << WHy not, one needs hobbies
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0008899 = 4.227 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> quick bb, ether will collect over 30k? Doubt it, but who know how much Vitalik swindled in 2012
assbot: The twinheaded announcer announces! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: decimation well outside of teh country one's obviously taking his chances.
mircea_popescu: "Greene, who was on his first deployment to a war zone" << how can you get a maj. gen comission without ever seeing a warzone is the q.
BingoBoingo: Well that second star happens... 20-25 years into one's career so 1994-1999... Prolly scuffled sround a bunch of staff jobs with Glowing recommendations int typical 'Murican fashion. I mean the Flag officer corps is right arounds 1000 across the services or some really hug number like that.
BingoBoingo: There's prolly no good reason, just a lot of Billets to fill
mircea_popescu: you know one of the major complaints of the french revolution was an officer corps that had never seen the field.
mircea_popescu: now the spiritual continuator of that mess got all these two star generals that basically sat at a desk 30 years
mircea_popescu: "Well, not a perfect match, but close enough for government work." this is an expression isn't ot.
mircea_popescu: soo on the sad news front, panacea is going on vacation too.
mircea_popescu: seems mpif is cursed, whatever it touches turns to snooze mode.
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021699 B (Total: 474.52 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
artifexd: mircea_popescu: I can help break the mpif curse, if you want.
artifexd: I can sell my shares. Everything I sell goes up aftewards.
mircea_popescu: well this isn't a problem of up or down, just, wtf am i going to do with all this capital.
atcbot: 17k@250 6k@240 2k@235 | 33k@203 88k@202 50k@195
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: maybe i'm missing out. << not even mp's above fomo (a term i initially associated with fubu)
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 431337.50 in 206 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -37.23
pete_dushenski: no, more like "curiousity, on the off-chance i'm missing out"
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i say "student of power" when people ask. << now there's a program. sort of an uber-mba
pete_dushenski: my 85 year-old romanian gran'pa wants me to get an mba
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tat's curious about running ads
pete_dushenski: he has some distilled wisdom and doesn't crack a lot of eggs….
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well ya, he's from cernutsi originally
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: my mom was born there too. lived in bucharest until age 6. then moved to montreal
pete_dushenski: that's why i had those two romanian architects living with me last summer
pete_dushenski: my mom was invited by the architecture university in bucharest to adjudicate the 6th year final projects since she still speaks the language and they like foreign panelists
pete_dushenski: the top two students were offered a job. they were coincidentally dating
pete_dushenski: so they're here for 2.5 years and stayed with me for 3 months while they found a place
pete_dushenski: we went as a family, including grandparents who hadn't been back since 1960's, in 2005
assbot: Alaina Percival: 10 Reasons Why More Women Should Work in Software Engineering - The Accelerators - WSJ
pete_dushenski: 5. Tech can require a lot of collaboration — a skill often valued in women.
pete_dushenski: 10. In the future, all companies will be involved in technology, so no matter what sector you are interested in you could find an engineering role.
mircea_popescu: yeah totally coca cola will be involved in technologee.
BingoBoingo: Grow antibodies for Marburg in Coca plant?
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Blog a post so I can put in a troll ad.