mircea_popescu: hai

mircea_popescu: !jd mpif

mircea_popescu: o noes

mircea_popescu: jurov: Death occurs in approximately 10% of cases. << wait srsly ?!

mircea_popescu: yeah. no clue how able it is to cross that barrier.

mircea_popescu: davout: it's just in the continuation of debt money, it's not really a competitor to bitcoin in any way << logically, as the statists keep getting beaten out of things, they'll regroup around similar-looking, similar-sounding, different things. again and again and again.

mircea_popescu: not like they'll just give up, roll over and die.

mircea_popescu: much like scammers, which is what they are, the proponents of large welfarist government will simply have to keep trying to come back forevar.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: heh a major investor of Ripple is also one for Pando << you're starting to see why we want pando outcompeted :)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: small summary: http://cryptome.org/nsa-tempest.htm << dja figure they'll be buing some cardanos ? :D

mircea_popescu: it occurs to me the twitter superlative is "this left me speechless". sorta like bad kids threatening the world with going upstairs and cleanning out their room,

mircea_popescu: twitterers threaten the world with shutting the fuck up

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sadly.

mircea_popescu: Alexandra Cavoulacos @acav Read this: "Acknowledging privilege is hard [...] It's easier to feel the victim than it is to feel like the bad guy."http://groupthink.jezebel.com/blabla

mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu @acav Being privileged is being the good guy. If the other guy weren't a lazy fuckwit, he'd be privileged too.

mircea_popescu: aneurism ?

mircea_popescu: haha why not ?

mircea_popescu: "(Yes, we build honeypots rules for our exploits)" this seems weak. imagine the odds someone using it actually fell on a honeypot they ran.

mircea_popescu: there's what, roughly 1 bn machines on the net ?

mircea_popescu: "We don't have access to exploit black markets and we are now happy to offering"

mircea_popescu: so a team advanced enough to have had a leet 0day for two years and enough honeypots to catch a 2nd team in time

mircea_popescu: does not have access ?

mircea_popescu: no but listen.

mircea_popescu: suppose at t1 you find this exploit.

mircea_popescu: suppose you run 1k boxes as honeypots distributed all over the web.

mircea_popescu: the average time for you to catch a 2nd team using your exploit would be, a decade to a century. and this only if they're clueless enough to go after random boxes.

mircea_popescu: so practically, you'll catch the 100th team or so.

mircea_popescu: at which point what you're selling is worthless by default.

mircea_popescu: but it WOULDN'T be woirthless today, which means, the proposed situation is unfactual.

mircea_popescu: tries to sell it as if it were, irrelevant what wordage they use.

mircea_popescu: at least they had the decency to sort the coins in the relative order of probability of someone falling for it.

mircea_popescu: bitcoin last.

mircea_popescu: http://valleywag.gawker.com/paypal-exec-goes-on-twitter-spree-insulting-coworkers-1571297209 << indian guy gets drunk

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, in the end, interesting case study in nonsense. it's piled up quite exquisitely high.

mircea_popescu: mike_c: well, didn't you hear? mp is extradited to antartica to face AEC security fraud charges. << no dude, i just had an argument with a bottle of wine and some lazagna.

mircea_popescu: pankkake: I guess that's the value of drama << asciilifeform check this out. the derpy openssh vulnerability ppl wanted 20 btc. the neobeeq drama was 80 btc.

mircea_popescu: 4 ssh vulnerabilities!

mircea_popescu: mike_c: (i'm secretly hoping i'm not the worst in the channel at languages) << he's just speaking a secret italian nobody else knows about.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well this one was used.

mircea_popescu: mike_c: i don't even see how you can ponzi at 50% a month. that is insane. << actually romanian ponzi thing did 800% in 3 months. it paid out for a year and a half.

mircea_popescu: dude the fucking crown. this reminds me of the golden age of Bs, where all the shitty studios had names like MONARCH

mircea_popescu: and EMPIRE w/e

mircea_popescu: wait it had a parent ?

mircea_popescu: "The Forex Exchange market has become an up and coming method of financial trading. As an innovator and initiator in the online foreign exchange business, Rockwell Partners S.A. is a mover and a shaker and on the forefront of the online trading market."

mircea_popescu: "have become an up and coming" da fuck is that word salad.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah this seems vaguely familiar.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your wish has been granted :

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/rockwell-5th-s-bitcoin-miner.244982/

mircea_popescu: they also did electronics.

mircea_popescu: "Here at Rockwell Automation's world headquarters, research has been proceeding to develop a line of automation products that establishes new standards for quality, technological leadership, and operating excellence. With customer success as our primary focus, work has been proceeding on the crudely conceived idea of an instrument that would not only provide inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detracto

mircea_popescu: rs, but would also be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal grammeters."

mircea_popescu: volcanic erruptor, in january, nobody heard from it since.

mircea_popescu: except in march it's like a big wave.

mircea_popescu: %t

mircea_popescu: bounce: can someone please put the usg out of our misery? << oooonly yoooouuuu

mircea_popescu: mike_c "and a company that will probably be worth billions this time next year." well look, i like myself just as much as the next guy, but srsly, billions ? seems improbable.

mircea_popescu: not that i didn;'t say roughly the same about 100s of millions a year ago, but still.

mircea_popescu: i don't think your typical mpex holder has any interest in the bitcoin price of tyhe various fiats.

mircea_popescu: i guess sure, if btc ends up 1 mn dollarts then mpex will be worth w/e, many trillions

mircea_popescu: but this seems hardly a discussion of value and worth.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda my point. i don't really think btc went up in price 10x, or mpex foe that matter.

mircea_popescu: just, the dollar lost 90% of its value over 2 months

mircea_popescu: not nearly as remarkable a feat.

mircea_popescu: so in a sense, mpex price has been more or less matching btc inflation.

mircea_popescu: which is... unremarkable i guess. like any huge old commodity business, a power company or w/e

mircea_popescu: mike_c anyway, perhaps an even better link : http://trilema.com/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/

mircea_popescu: back then we were wtfing at "which would put S.MPOE somewhere around 8 million dollars, which would be excessive."

mircea_popescu: and since we're doing 2012, check out fucking 8ball action over here :

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/

mircea_popescu: hey you know

mircea_popescu: don't buy what you don't like, don't buy what you don't understand, don't buy what etc

mircea_popescu: "others have done well" is always a poor argument.

mircea_popescu: in the words of this romanian rap band, "Am vazut cu ochii mei tovarasi cum se duc de rapa... bagat in vena, ma bucur ca am fost pe scena. Rand pe rand scandaluri, multi din ei s-au dus..."

mircea_popescu: remarkably applicable.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: I haven't seen you chat in here yet << no, he's been here before.

mircea_popescu: " In the last few months, Mt.Gox collapsed, bitcoin has lost half of its value. "

mircea_popescu: why is wired so fucking sutpid ?

mircea_popescu: o fluffypony already covered it. kay. i subscribe.

mircea_popescu: Naphex: cloudflare makes little sense to me << or to anyone whose brain works enough to power a goat.

mircea_popescu: !up go1111111

mircea_popescu: mod6 %bal is cool.

mircea_popescu: %bal 1Cunts

mircea_popescu: 2 confirms eh ?

mircea_popescu: Naphex: and its unlikely for ssh to have /etc/shadow in memory << maybe in some weird case it could have it in child memory, which is the claim.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo:

mircea_popescu: The worst part is the prescribe the exact same thing I would have prescribed myself if I could just go to the pharmacy with a shopping list like an actual human being at a store << this is how i shop for medicine.

mircea_popescu: "Guest95361: I can say with 100% certainty that they have them" lmao do these fuckwits even comprehend how this bitcoin thing works ?

mircea_popescu: Duffer1 lulzy, all the ifs i nthat thread.

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/

mircea_popescu: jurov ^ there, speshal for you.

mircea_popescu: well, for one thing we wouldn't need +m here

mircea_popescu: as we'd be the only ones able to read and write anyway

mircea_popescu: and that's all for me. catch you tomorrow.

mircea_popescu: good morning ass...ets.

mircea_popescu: artifexd: It's like an order randomized mixer. << something like that.

mircea_popescu: it's not technically that, because in point of fact you *can* implement with single use addresses the same system. however, you could also not have, and likely the presumption will be that you have not. so it's more like proof that you have than anything

mircea_popescu: artifexd: I can also just assert that the address isn't mine. Period. << absolutely. on the other hand, reusing addresses actually makes the stupidirty of "calculating taint" much more expensive.

mircea_popescu: not only in tech terms, but also in intellectual terms. ie, the nonsense one has to believe in other to believe in taint.

mircea_popescu: this happens to be how one defends himself from stupidity : by making the intellectual cost of stupidity skyrocket.

mircea_popescu: like, derps believe "there is a god above" ? well, let's put some satellites in orbit, see what they do then ? ah, they still believe it, except it's now above-er ? win.

mircea_popescu: artifexd: It makes more sense when I notice that mp has never (that I've seen) recommended that users reuse addresses. His statements have always (that I have seen) talked about services reusing addresses. << yes, this is an important, and also correct, observation.

mircea_popescu: ;;seen r3wt

mircea_popescu: Naphex: garbage article, opionions and arguments how fun << they've been having an eve corp whose shares are traded in bitcoin/equiv MPOE shares for... a year now ? more ?

mircea_popescu: a nm, it got linked.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so I stopped for 6 months to demonstrate I wasn't << alternatively you could have belted her butt to demonstrate it's not her place to say. better for humanity, because she probably went on to write opinionful articles about things.

mircea_popescu: see, i can appreciate that sentiment, but it has a hole in it

mircea_popescu: because inasmuch as it's in your hands, abstaining for an arbitrary period from x does not prove you don't have an addiction.

mircea_popescu: the only logically sound way this proof works is if you're a slave and your master orders you to stop, without a specific timeframe. then yes.

mircea_popescu: no, slavery = outside of your control.

mircea_popescu: there's nothing to negotiate, see ? whereas as long as you are your own master for all you know your adiction is making a deal

mircea_popescu: for its immunity.

mircea_popescu: now, this certainly isn't to say that taking a break is not a good idea.

mircea_popescu: all it says is that it's indicium not proof.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony: and he was like "but it's too much effort for a girl." << check it out thickasthieves, it's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2014#591323 all over again :D ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves ^

mircea_popescu: mwahahaha

mircea_popescu: sanity shouldn't be difficult. in practice, nothing else is quite as difficult.

mircea_popescu: for from the crooked timber of humanity...

mircea_popescu: bounce: two or three drinks a night does qualify for alcoholism in some books << it very much depends on ethnicity and culture. your average samoan doing three vodka shots each day will be fucking dead from it.

mircea_popescu: jurov on the other hand, gets meningitis of the uvula from not drinking enough.

mircea_popescu: bounce: eh, finance's not supposed to /drink/ anyway. << oddly, all good doctors i ever knew smoked like turks, and all good finance people were drunks. check out romania's cb president pro vita, his face has the distinct red marks of enjoying wine.

mircea_popescu: bounce: dropping php/mysql isn't a bad idea. but the replacement... some people are magnets for failure << i suspect mysql (just by itself) may actually be a better choice than mongodb.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: bounce: I've actually always suspected the religious case for prohibition was largely influenced by the cost of drinking taking money that could have been tithed << actually, it was leftover from english historical issues. "nitially gin was a welcome industry in England because it allowed a new class of consumption for grain, thus promising to elevate the prices of grain and so the profits of the landed ge

mircea_popescu: ntry. Within a generation or two the prevailing winds changed, and most all of “Victorian morals” can adequately be reduced to and explained in terms of, the lords pushing their sponsored priests to go to war on their behalf, under the banners of “other people should drink gin so as to make the lord money, but the people of this parish should not drink gin so as to be able to work long and hard, thus making the l

mircea_popescu: ord money”. That schizoid insanity is still torturing our fledging northern colonies to this day. "

mircea_popescu: via teh divine cunt's footnotes. http://trilema.com/2013/the-divine-cunt/#footnote_0_50163

mircea_popescu: Naphex: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/btcxchangeRON.html woot! :D << wd.

mircea_popescu: 30day vol 487.65107709 BTC, not so bad at all.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "Porn has never looked so good!" - Naphex with his new PC << "who said you can't mine btc on your pc in 2014 ?!"

mircea_popescu: damned shit. this read logs later and comment deal doesnt work because instead of being beaten by like .5 seconds

mircea_popescu: im beaten by like six hours

mircea_popescu: steven-__: and they are just pushing him out now that his team is good << intel told me the same thing. "stfu with sterling, you're embarassing yourself. he's been an idiot worse than steinbrenner, nobody cared because the team used to suck."

mircea_popescu: !up sl01

mircea_popescu: fluffypony: pankkake when are we starting a business? we can call it "the Dropbox of water" << call it the dropbox of beer. you can go arounbd other people's tables and offer to store it for them.

mircea_popescu: and speaking of nonsensical us stuiff that's really just inherited from europe, does this melody sound familiar to anyone ?

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/embed/zikcHnimsxk

mircea_popescu: uh wrong one

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=784KEIiga40

mircea_popescu: there.

mircea_popescu: !up steven-__

mircea_popescu: off to town, back later

mircea_popescu: "We claim that these built-in properties are not as brilliant as they are sometimes claimed."

mircea_popescu: how is this a fucking claim.

mircea_popescu: did they stop sending kids to school altogether in the english space ?

mircea_popescu: lol.

mircea_popescu: the funny thing about that paper is, of course, that altcoin is being used currently exactly as experimental proof that his theory is nonsense.

mircea_popescu: %diff

mircea_popescu: there, 70% drop, go doublespend or w/e, show me how altcoin dies because whoa, sudden mandated diff changes.

mircea_popescu: pankkake his "claim" is his claim.

mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/n8T3RXWF

mircea_popescu: i don't think so.

mircea_popescu: because why would he need to, right, because in the virtual reality he inhabits he is qualified.

mircea_popescu: like you know, whatever fucking shaman in the depths of africa rubbing sticks together "knows" and consequently doesn't need to obtain a license to opine on matters of medicine

mircea_popescu: pankkake no. it's like writing "fraudulent pracitce of medicine will be prosecuted" on the hopsital

mircea_popescu: somewhere in the god forsaken thirld world where this isn't somehow self-obvious.

mircea_popescu: like you know, kansas, kenya, take your pick.

mircea_popescu: just sent it yes.

mircea_popescu: why ty

mircea_popescu: kinda old news that

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what flower pot is that btwe ?

mircea_popescu: well considering what the inexistend fighter jet has cost alreayd, i can only imagine what a shuttle would cost the usg

mircea_popescu: you know, "most military expenditure in the world", then russia pisses in your ear whenever it feels like.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves two years ago, usagi was doing this complex layered cake of very badly structured "corporations" that kept trading with each other then failing to execute the contracts etc. deprived kept calling him on it. for months, 100s of pages.

mircea_popescu: eventually usagi had a nervous break down, wroiter this post about how he can't get any sleep because he keeps having to defend "his good name" and he is selling his guitar and w/e to pay off debts

mircea_popescu: and "we" need to stop because this can't be everything is a scam milk is a scam kjfdshgkshdkgjsfd

mircea_popescu: so we just took the "milk is a scam" thing.

mircea_popescu: grow out of it ?

mircea_popescu: yes, that's what brands are : stupid to the clueless. like say the word "brand"

mircea_popescu: say it 500 times fast, check out how stupid it seems.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron who's the guy and why's he refusing to sign a contract ?

mircea_popescu: the rules are that contracts are mandatory if either party desires, but may be waived as unnecessary if both parties wish to

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what's so stupid about it ? it's sort-of like Ford having "Got Black?" on its corporate website.

mircea_popescu: because, of course, "customers can have a car any color they want"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afore or after the chinese took over the us ?

mircea_popescu: "It’s an ugly thing, watching all these kids shoot from the hip." << ThickAsThieves haha actually i kinda enjoy it for the comedy value

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah, i see it more that way. it's a little nook, something to discover, some way to be "in".

mircea_popescu: nobody cares about usagi, but some people - such as for instance I - care about the fact that we were doing insider jokes in 2011.

mircea_popescu: myeah.

mircea_popescu: like next time WiredHerp comes here to ask questions and all he gets is a link to them being banned ? and an invitation to get his editor to fire the offending party and publish a retraction cum apology ?

mircea_popescu: doesn't seem hard to do.

mircea_popescu: why would it say "bitcoin" ?

mircea_popescu: not like i own the trademark.

mircea_popescu: i got affiliates, supposedly. let them do the seoz.

mircea_popescu: as is customary with the free market, the more you work the more you get :D

mircea_popescu: eh, changing designs. what is this, the web ?

mircea_popescu: lol you'll have to refresh me

mircea_popescu: "You see, other than by chance, it is impossible to properly communicate and convince an audience of your position when you are deluded from where you stand in the first place." <<< you just summarized us dating.

mircea_popescu: oh lol

mircea_popescu: obviously, lactating animals are all desperate to be milked.

mircea_popescu: mastitis = death otherwise.

mircea_popescu: try not milking a cow for a day see what it does.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik labrats with dead litters get it too, and die.

mircea_popescu: the common house cat idem

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the editing dept sez : "deluded AS TO where you stand"

mircea_popescu: apparently that structure always takes "as to".

mircea_popescu: concerned as to her well being, convinced as to the dangers etc

mircea_popescu: "It’s a bit like a man grunting at a woman he’s attracted to. There’s no context, no clarity, no purpose, no potency, no efficacy. No finesse. No nuance. Marketing is an art, not some fucking blunt object for which to clobber your every desire. "

mircea_popescu: dude i like this guy's writing.

mircea_popescu: that's pretty much it. reddit is an apeman looking for a club to clobber things

mircea_popescu: anyway, sponsorships may work. it's just... they require some elements, such as lordship, that are absent for reddit's case.

mircea_popescu: the canonical case of sponsorship is art, of course.

mircea_popescu: myeaj

mircea_popescu: well, the welfare mass is trying to implement what it thinks high falootin' politix is, which ends up trying to re-implement the nonsense of their socialist masters,

mircea_popescu: which are always exactly backwards.

mircea_popescu: are you the worst fucking nightmare of the proletariat ? claim you're the saviour of proletariat.

mircea_popescu: alinsky-goebbels 101

mircea_popescu: anyway, not only they shouldn't , but they couldn't hire a professional that knows better.

mircea_popescu: god help the professional hired by a crowd.

mircea_popescu: might as well answer "witches wanted" ads in 1700s salem

mircea_popescu: only lords may hire professionals, as far as the professionals know their own best interest.

mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "manifesting into organisation" tho

mircea_popescu: mebbe

mircea_popescu: anyway, i disagree with the theory the motivator is greed.

mircea_popescu: it seems clear it's either mimetism or brownian motion,

mircea_popescu: which are the same thing, depending on whether you think othyer people are agents or objects.

mircea_popescu: sure.

mircea_popescu: but more in the sense of the will to live, and the quest for survival.

mircea_popescu: they're greedy like bacteriums.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves> or that active? << yes.

mircea_popescu: it makes women push watermelons through their square inch of a vaginal canal. never underestimate the will to live.

mircea_popescu: <jurov> as soon as they start to click around, it gets forgotten << no wai ?!

mircea_popescu: it's site-wide im pretty sure, and root works too

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ?

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you can't own it for lyf lol, you own it for a month

mircea_popescu: jurov so maybe referral didn't stick ?

mircea_popescu: jurov cause the person made a bet and then forgot about it ?

mircea_popescu: i meant specifically, the referral, as in, the guy you referred.

mircea_popescu: no it doesn't.

mircea_popescu: pankkake even if you purge cookies when you close browser, it should track you by ip afaik

mircea_popescu: well kakobrekla can weigh in when he wakes up

mircea_popescu: why is that jesse draper trying so hard to be "hot" ? she's just some girl.

mircea_popescu: Naphex cali based would-be news source.

mircea_popescu: pankkake ever seen bebes a gogo ?

mircea_popescu: also, why not call liv tyler liv tyler ? not like she's not in the idbm etc

mircea_popescu: ah

mircea_popescu: ;)

mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> gawd, Pando is really starting to annoy me << they were cool at some point.

mircea_popescu: then pmarca happened.

mircea_popescu: wait i make claims to fame ?

mircea_popescu: o that.

mircea_popescu: maybe it's that "pando" is not a person ?

mircea_popescu: maybe it's that the shit they claim makes zero difference, to you or anyone else ?

mircea_popescu: maybe yeah

mircea_popescu: prince pando is actually not a bad name for a flaming cabaret homosexual

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/spamerul-dan-pulic/ << like the guy in that pic

mircea_popescu: i dont think it was ever on the girl's list

mircea_popescu: mostly did securities, scam accusations, stuff like that.

mircea_popescu: "Dupa 24 de apeluri 7 emailuri la care am primit mesaj cu autoresponder in sfarshit pot sa respir cumva."

mircea_popescu: that reads "after 24 calls and 7 emails i can finally breathe somewhat"

mircea_popescu: deepthroat references floatin' in my head...

mircea_popescu: anyway. sad.

mircea_popescu: yeah. cocksucker's trying to steal electricity, thinks this is "business".

mircea_popescu: not enough there to make any sort of call really

mircea_popescu: davout meanwhile it's back

mircea_popescu: fried server++;

mircea_popescu: funny thing is, i got the notification from you about half a second before from tech.

mircea_popescu: no, more like because they have to use encrypted chan

mircea_popescu: anyway. seems a bios chip smoked out. this is what redundancy is for, carry on.

mircea_popescu: Naphex i have had so many things happen for mpex that i never had happen before i couldn't begin to tel lyou

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete's reuse address article making some hay on twitter it seems

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the board just went

mircea_popescu: Naphex this wasn't a front problem, the front was fine all through

mircea_popescu: Naphex because it's more code, basically.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just a guess i suspect. the processors weren't hot enough to smoke.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i wonder if matonis actually does get the custom-tailored award thing

mircea_popescu: weren't there some awards ? "best atm" etc

mircea_popescu: iirc he had a forbes blogs for a while

mircea_popescu: defo longer than 1 month

mircea_popescu: !up ziggamon

mircea_popescu: Naphex not saying varnish is bad or anything

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves didnt you say you liked whoresterdam ?

mircea_popescu: you got your own head neh ? you get the idea, ask it until you get an answer

mircea_popescu: not whether, but why haven't they.

mircea_popescu: what is he hiding

mircea_popescu: did he spend the money on booze, like every single other bitcoin foundaton plat member to date ?

mircea_popescu: such as karpeles ? such as vleisides ? such as etc ?

mircea_popescu: what is his connection to ndrengheta ?

mircea_popescu: was he aware bfl is using the bf logo to scam users ? did he agree to be paid to help with this ?

mircea_popescu: did all the payment end up in the foundation or did he pocket some ?

mircea_popescu: if he didn't pocket any why does he refuse to allow the foundation to publish its books ?

mircea_popescu: does he think it's ok to be both the treasurer and the exec of a foundation ?

mircea_popescu: is this because he wants to prevent the public from discovering how he's been embezziling the donations ?

mircea_popescu: etc.

mircea_popescu: until he answers, you can keep askin.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also a good line :p

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves hehe i thought so.

mircea_popescu: you don't say.

mircea_popescu: no ?!

mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck have i been sayinbg for a year over here already!

mircea_popescu: they ran off top the uk because the us le was starting to ask questions

mircea_popescu: you can also ask about that, what's the plan, once the uk starts asking questions they move it to panama ?

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaQNPxDISus

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2010/nu-folosi-lucrurile/

mircea_popescu: there it is.

mircea_popescu: hey fluffypony "Bella 'sta storia e chi la sente, bella la gente ca la racconta, bella la terra ca nun sâ scorda, bella Michela ca nun s'arrènne."

mircea_popescu: so, beautiful the story and whoever hears it, beautiful the people that tell it, beautiful land that won't forget, beautiful michela that won't... yield ?

mircea_popescu: or wtf is arrenne

mircea_popescu: so ask teh nonno.

mircea_popescu: it waited 3 centuries, it'll wait out your cell battery too :D

mircea_popescu: scar ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for ~ a year.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, i suspect it's a cognate of arrender

mircea_popescu: arrendar*

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc it was a dell.

mircea_popescu: uh

mircea_popescu: pain, you know ?

mircea_popescu: best way to form memories.

mircea_popescu: "the idea of "ten million dollars" really need to start meaning something again."

mircea_popescu: lol gawker going nuts. sure it will. 10 mn btc means a scary shitload of alot.

mircea_popescu: 10mn rubles mean you've not been drinking enough for a while.

mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/463781829313855488

mircea_popescu: god help us.

mircea_popescu: self-lubricating assholes and uvula orgasms could be a reality inside Maude, why not.

mircea_popescu: <pankkake> besides the various forms of writing an address, I guess there are RIPEMD-160 collisions? << a ripemd-160 collision that'd make two diff bitcoin addresses out of one key is kinda improbable even theoretically tho

mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-05-cc318e9.png << no actually i said that. sorry.

mircea_popescu: <mike_c> that gap is unbridgeable. ask hanbot. << hanbot teh bridge builder. in full leather regalia and with three whips and twoi lashes in each hand.

mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> haven't these guys given up already ? << i was kinda surprised myself.

mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/716/btc-worth-over-5000-before-2015/#b18 << 2:1 srsly ?

mircea_popescu: <pankkake> so it solves everything. twice. << 8 lines bashed. omfg i spilled. bwahahahaha

mircea_popescu: TomServo yes.

mircea_popescu: and depends what your interest is. my mention was something to the effect of, "some frenchie took the pseudo-statistics that yielded the golf club pattern in climate pseudo-science and applied it to pseudo-economics"

mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> "King Dragon @The1KingDragon Security Professional, CEO CryptoRush" << FUCK YOU. he's a KING dragon.

mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> pankkake: eventual consistency, within 3 weeks! << for all the beating eventual consistency gets, the sad secret elephant in the room is that all business in the history of business for the past 1k years has been of the eventual consistency types. what do you think double entry accounting is.

mircea_popescu: business runs on ec.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah ideally the wiki should end up a sort of short story of all the blawgs.

mircea_popescu: yes, this is true, money changers didn't traditionally run like banks.

mircea_popescu: the mystery lemma of -assets is that no matter in what asshole of the world any one assetteer lives, there's at least one that lives within visiting distance.

mircea_popescu: it's almost as if we inhabit a theoretical topological construct rather than irl.

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: eventually, i see fewer people walking into bitcoin (and assets) like they own the place << kinda what i'm trying to get with the trouting various clueless twits a la courtois. "it ain't yo momma's btc, yo! show some respek!"

mircea_popescu: JorgePasada well you know, if one can't reach eventual intellectual consistency through logical means, the only method available is not asking questions.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some random dood aspiring to academia, i had his page somewhere.

mircea_popescu: http://www.nicolascourtois.com/

mircea_popescu: check out the new/bomb bullets.

mircea_popescu: he has an entire list of derp there. "On Subversive Miner Strategies and Block Withholding Attack in Bitcoin Digital Currency"

mircea_popescu: JorgePasada yup. can't be beat.

mircea_popescu: (classical period "invincible ignorance")

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, i was thinking, o look what cryptologia publishes now.

mircea_popescu: i must admit i never looked at one since 2005 or w/e it moved

mircea_popescu: but in the 80s i recall it being somewhat of a big deal

mircea_popescu: course, 80s cryptology. heh.

mircea_popescu puts on his metaphysician hat. JorgePasada nothing that necessarily is could be scary, necessarily

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.

mircea_popescu: and the way he goers about it makes one fucking petrified of these folks' general competence and ability as displayed at the daily business of their chosen field.

mircea_popescu: it's as if you were a woman, and visited gynecologists monthly, until one day when you discovered they decided football was part of gynecology, and then kept running into one another on the field like drunk sperms.

mircea_popescu: at which point you're suddenly afraid to let them use metal objects on your soft bit.

mircea_popescu: you can, but i'm taking bets against that.

mircea_popescu: no psyop in the world can compile disinfo of the level ignorance & stupidity can.

mircea_popescu: see, specialisation refines and improves the quality of one's corectness.

mircea_popescu: it does not however help the quality of one's error.

mircea_popescu: the best error, like the best entropy, is the result of a different approach than culture.

mircea_popescu: bingo.

mircea_popescu: hearn's not very good at it.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I imagine we'll fill the wiki with important points over time << as stan'd say, i can also see another scenario, where the wiki is still where it's now, a decade later.

mircea_popescu: "DarknetMarkets IPVO"

mircea_popescu: holy shit. the ipo of an anon entity ? logic just got knotted into a pretzel and ate itself.

mircea_popescu: "so i contributed some equity" "to whom ?" "to someone" "so what do you want ?" "a share of the profit" "of whom ?!" "of someone"

mircea_popescu: "well perhaps you should sue ?" "ok." *files suit against "someone"*

mircea_popescu: *suit gets rejected for lack of venue, failure to state a claim, failure to file and failure to fail*

mircea_popescu: "oh this opressive government and the fucking courts which we can say we live in a tyrannical tyranny!11"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'bb' caliber cannons. or, alternatively and more simply, rams. << i remember watching a rather interesting "electricity stealing" competition among some flying items a few years ago.

mircea_popescu: trying to evolve drone designs

mircea_popescu: fluffypony im kinda after the root of that arrenne magical word. i'm pretty sure it's neither to forget nor to be.

mircea_popescu: well if they were from calabria...

mircea_popescu: they're not huh.

mircea_popescu: but look at the beauty of what is (could be) in a word :

mircea_popescu: if it's indeed arrendar, one's to explain how the hell vulgar latin yielded the same thing in south italy and in south spain

mircea_popescu: and moreover, why the d is rendered as n in a double n, wtf, this isn't even a documented consonant migration afaik

mircea_popescu: i'd have to spend weeks with recordings of ethnology and folklore to listen for the double n construct tho, and i obviously have not the time for it.

mircea_popescu: Members Online Now : Atruk, hyperiond, bitkill, jurov, coinminer69er, bertani Total: 68 (members: 6, guests: 57, robots: 5)

mircea_popescu: that bitcointa.lk thing isn't really doing that bad.

mircea_popescu: "Join me & meet the old & new in payments (@AmericanExpress, @Visa, & @RippleLabs)"

mircea_popescu: it'd seem to me the principal utility of ripple these days is so that banking idiots who wish to spend longer with their head in the sand can pretend like they're not.

mircea_popescu: also in the news, Human Rights Watch : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bm-xzUvCMAI7FVZ.jpg

mircea_popescu: MP : The point of womanhood is for the woman to start a new life, as a new person, once she sexually matures.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mhm.

mircea_popescu: twitter : "25 hedge fund managers earned more than double every kindergarten teacher combined. But who created more value?" mp : "Definitely no kindergarten "teacher" ever created any value. Just trying to claim the workings of nature for themselves."

mircea_popescu: i wonder if i'll end up banned eventually.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo didn't they ban that uk fellow recently ?

mircea_popescu: "Today was the first day in a long time I actually took phones away. I have no idea what all was included in the update, but you would have thought it was crack. They seriously could not keep away from it. I even had one girl crawl under the table with her phone."

mircea_popescu: lol crack.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they happen more in italy.

mircea_popescu: but a garbageman does something useful. a kindergarten teacher perhaps, some places. NOT in ussr, and not in ussa tho. most emphatically not.

mircea_popescu: nothing medicinal about beating 3 yos.

mircea_popescu: too soon.

mircea_popescu: children are born cowardly, if your preschooler can't be controlled by scowling you need to work on your warface.

mircea_popescu: maybe with a newspaper, asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: i mean, i think we know i'm no priss, and so im not speaking from some locus of nonsensical ideology.

mircea_popescu: but teh beating of single digit aged ppls is dysfunctional.

mircea_popescu: this is true.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo iirc he said something or the other about some stadium accident. beautyon has the story.

mircea_popescu: that's weird...

mircea_popescu: i imagined surely they must have smartphone accelerometer as an interface

mircea_popescu: perhaps the dominant one by now

mircea_popescu: anyway, stupid for spaceball to not market itself as "magic wand"

mircea_popescu: add a stick to the ball.

mircea_popescu: "At that point I took all the phones away and we had a little reminder chat about when it was appropriate to use your phone and when it was not. Also that it was rarely appropriate to hide under the table." chetty check this out : no longer appropriate to hide under desk in the us school system.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems that way to me. you'd want your butt over your head, not your head over your butt

mircea_popescu: tho gonads further complicate matters.

mircea_popescu: i guess the ideal underdesk packing would be butt, head, then torso atop and limbs atop that

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> once you see the flash, gonads are well-done << this is quite not true, actually.

mircea_popescu: of course.

mircea_popescu: moreover, looky here : suppose you are a woman, for some reason. you are born with all your sex cells.

mircea_popescu: if you get blasted by ionizing radiatiopn, some will die

mircea_popescu: those will never mature

mircea_popescu: the remaining tho, will.

mircea_popescu: so you'll still be ovulating, esp as a young woman, no matter the dose.

mircea_popescu: not much of a question.

mircea_popescu: for the ovule to manage to come out it needs to pass a bunch of checks.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to a large degree, it hurts the fetuses, not the kids-to-be-born later

mircea_popescu: because fetuses rapidly divide

mircea_popescu: it further hurts later conceptions because of the inside the womb radiation

mircea_popescu: (from say cesium lodged in the woman's basin)

mircea_popescu: it's well known that airplane pilots tend to father girls

mircea_popescu: this, because cosmic rays kill the weaker male making sperm

mircea_popescu: the girls they make, however, are healthy.

mircea_popescu: benkay tweeted tat shit. lawl.

mircea_popescu: because the male chromosome sucks and is larger and derpier

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: “Alibaba is the fastest-growing Internet company in one of the fastest-growing economies in the world,” said Sameet Sinha

mircea_popescu: also biggest and oldest etc.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought the Y was longer by like 15%

mircea_popescu is not a biologist.

mircea_popescu: this is true, but i meant size

mircea_popescu: in things such as surviving a dose of xrays, it's counterintuitively your length more than your area that matters at subcellular level

mircea_popescu: !up blueocean

mircea_popescu: true.

mircea_popescu: sure.

mircea_popescu: who're you ?

mircea_popescu: that's a start.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony congrats on media whoring. can you offer text summary for the audio patience challenged ?

mircea_popescu: http://www.popularresistance.org/five-us-internet-providers-are-slowing-down-access-until-they-get-more-cash/

mircea_popescu: check that out ye people behind the plastic curtain :

mircea_popescu: you'll have even slower interwebz.

mircea_popescu: aok wd.

mircea_popescu: feel free to steal it.

mircea_popescu: mike_c: it has minimum of 8.0 Mw. that would be impressive if manmade. << impressive ? if an 8.0 earthquake were man made i doubt we'd still have computers left tobitch about things.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: tesla's apparatus was briefcase-sized. and, according to rumour, the experiment has been replicated since. but, to no one's great surprise, the data in open literature is very scarce. << thatthing's like the water engine imo.

mircea_popescu: kik

mircea_popescu: blueocean see, use kik instead of lol.

mircea_popescu: mhm.

mircea_popescu: lawl

mircea_popescu: how's the api doing ?

mircea_popescu: suppose im a merchant that just sold 10k btc worth of fresh salmon, am i fucked nao ?

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: ZOMG. << OMFG KAKO!!11

mircea_popescu: here i sit crushing my and every expert's brain as to why the fucking hell of fuck does bitbet aff not take off

mircea_popescu: i have to find out from mike ?!

mircea_popescu: no, cause that's too much hard work for no cookies

mircea_popescu: pankkake aww.

mircea_popescu: in george's words, "bear in mind we at least paid to spraypaint a crackwhore!"

mircea_popescu: srs bzns

mircea_popescu: iirc ? no ?

mircea_popescu: the golden horror ?

mircea_popescu: uh. so who paid for the girl then ?!

mircea_popescu: the risk of paying for walls : you may end up associated with the hobo pissing on them

mircea_popescu: triple moo ? what ?

mircea_popescu: uh ok. ty!

mircea_popescu: so bitpay shared a wall with the guys.

mircea_popescu: "bitpay, premier non redundant birtcoin service, powered by triple 000 media" says that wall.

mircea_popescu: http://triplezeromedia.com/ << check that out

mircea_popescu: specifically, the 1px thin lower border resulting from some real clever monkey in the photo chop seat.

mircea_popescu: would you hire them to mew your lown ?

mircea_popescu: pankkake clearly you don't understand the party culture.

mircea_popescu: people buy the whole bar rounds when they have no good story to tell / no good toast to make all the damned time.

mircea_popescu: i hope you didn't refer to those people as "guys"

mircea_popescu: or w/e, mecs

mircea_popescu: what's gals in french again ? can't be you guys go around saying copine or some shit

mircea_popescu: meuf aok

mircea_popescu: btw, am i the only one to remember mlouf, the foot-face thing ?

mircea_popescu: http://bdoubliees.com/vaillantpif/series6/zormlouf.htm

mircea_popescu: pankkake nah, i had the complete editions valliant, 1952 to 1970ish, bound in yearly tomes

mircea_popescu: oh i guess you're right, it was some front populaire thing

mircea_popescu: benkay what are they supposed to be doing ?

mircea_popescu: other than being the first and largest agency, ofcourse.

mircea_popescu: benkay well, tell them :D

mircea_popescu: benkay you get to find out if it's the sort of competition you'd be better served working together with.

mircea_popescu: pankkake : vaillant, French publisher, founded in July 1946 by the Front Patriotique de la Jeunesse (FPJ)

mircea_popescu: twasn't published by l'humanite

mircea_popescu: In the 80's it merged with Éditions J becoming Éditions Vaillant-Miroir Sprint (VMS) (by then i wasn't paying attention anymore)

mircea_popescu: decimation you know i just had this dispute with native speaker today ? because she said "tuna" with a plain u like in cartoon

mircea_popescu: and i coulnd't make it out because obviously it's tjuna

mircea_popescu: otherwise you'd spell it fucking toona

mircea_popescu: so we went into exploration and discovered that indeed, plain u is ju, otherwise neat u is oo

mircea_popescu: except... "not in american english"

mircea_popescu: so, there's two fucking levels of pigdinization, and only the 2nd layer actually killed the possibility of expression

mircea_popescu: the english did have shakespeare

mircea_popescu: pankkake l'humanite was actually printed by jaures/the pcf

mircea_popescu: admittedly, a distinction very fine.

mircea_popescu: benkay this design is nonsense, i don't care wtf.

mircea_popescu: why not just use csv, it'a a fuckin standard

mircea_popescu: benkay of course, traditional webserver access logs (the sort awstats processes) are in fact space separated

mircea_popescu: but the fields do not cointain spaces

mircea_popescu: (urls are encoded, so it'd be %20)

mircea_popescu: if the field is documented as [to] then i guess

mircea_popescu: course why the fuck do they not use the already conventrional ""

mircea_popescu: is beyond me.

mircea_popescu: [28/Apr/2013:03:01:16 +0000] vs "GET /PlantlustProgAccess?max-keys=1000 HTTP/1.1"

mircea_popescu: everyone gotta be speshal

mircea_popescu: coula just went "28/Apr/2013:03:01:16 +0000" and you probably would have never even realised.

mircea_popescu:

mircea_popescu: this is what people say whose washing machine water hose popped early in the unsupervised cycle

mircea_popescu: well... it WAS cheaper

mircea_popescu: !b 9 ✂︎

mircea_popescu: he means would be

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just go with the flow man. add the noise to the beats :D

mircea_popescu: it's gotta be better than the shit on tv.

mircea_popescu: lmao

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what's the noisy part ?

mircea_popescu: is the fan making noise because of mechanics or airflow ?

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if it makes you feel better, my house (and most of europe) is heated by gas fired tankless systems, which actuyally make very little noise.

mircea_popescu: benkay some shit us idea that tries to combine the african water heater (big tank painted black) with the european model (burn gas under the pipe, like a reverse fridge)

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so basically by making a deal with your helpful government, you can now keep your hot water showers,

mircea_popescu: if you liked your hot water showers.

mircea_popescu: and it'll only cost an extra 4k.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves have him come back, make a hybrid-hybrid system

mircea_popescu: where both the old and new are spliced together.

mircea_popescu: tbh, unless you got some turboprop shit going on here, a properly soundproofed garage shouldn't care anywya.

mircea_popescu: uh

mircea_popescu: how loud can it be ? got a db probe ?

mircea_popescu: funny, i can't tell whether my heater fan is working from here.

mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you want to do a soundproofing job w/o a db probe

mircea_popescu: huh !?

mircea_popescu: oh

mircea_popescu: o boy.

mircea_popescu: can i bet against this ipo of yours somewhere ?

mircea_popescu: you just heat water ?

mircea_popescu: well yes. that's what studios are these days.

mircea_popescu: because who the fuck plays an instrument anymore.

mircea_popescu: you mic electric guitars ?!

mircea_popescu: uh. why ?!

mircea_popescu: because... they are... electric ?

mircea_popescu: you already got their signal, what's the mic going to do ?

mircea_popescu: but

mircea_popescu goes over to lie down and die.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so the amps do not have a jack into which you can plug your speakers or mixing table or anything else ?

mircea_popescu: i have a better idea : MIC THE SPEAKERS TWICE

mircea_popescu: mod6 lol

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so basically this "industry" is not so unlike bitcoin biznis industry

mircea_popescu: aesthetically driven technologies

mircea_popescu: just the offense this discussion brings to any serious ee may have him change his mind.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: well, let's hope music gets regulated in the us then

mircea_popescu: just for my own personal lulzfest.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony he's probably just trying to record his wife snoring

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but basically, any "artist" is just called "a band" in my admittedly living in the past head.

mircea_popescu: fluffypony there's not really such a thing as "authentic" sound.

mircea_popescu: sound is air vibration. unless you package the air along with the signal, your digital thing'll be just a construction.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is a good thing to do, but not for the direct reason. for the marketing meta-reason instead :

mircea_popescu: it'll keep the fans endlessly occupied with a fun debate

mircea_popescu: which will mean they will never have awkward silences discussing your shit

mircea_popescu: which will mean that's all they'll want to talk about.

mircea_popescu: win.

mircea_popescu: you won't make money from making sound any more than a girl will make money taking selfies.

mircea_popescu: the (imo incredibly cool) voice acting including in present eulora was... a freebie.

mircea_popescu: so does everyone else. perpetually.

mircea_popescu: see hansen

mircea_popescu: you can argue this with me till either of us get bored. point remains : this isn't a business, it's a hobby.

mircea_popescu: this market is deader than disco, you might as well build a time machine to go back to 1982 to buy buffett's textile business.

mircea_popescu: for great victory!

mircea_popescu: sure.

mircea_popescu: there's no angle to be found to go around the simple fact that nobody is willing to pay to listen to some music.

mircea_popescu: they'd rather expect you to pay them

mircea_popescu: rift cost 50mn and has yet to make 20.

mircea_popescu: chetty sage pix : http://trilema.com/2014/sage/

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves surely. and it has great music, too.

mircea_popescu: none of them willing to pay you a living wage, but all of them happy to have you on board.

mircea_popescu: be wary of lines of work in which there are stars.

mircea_popescu: that's the clear proof that the thing is run as a lottery, and most everyone involved pays to participate.

mircea_popescu: you went to iphone kindgom.

mircea_popescu: haha

mircea_popescu: sorta like how hans zimmer does like 80% of movie soundtracks that are any good.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if i were to wager a guess, rap beats is a crystal ball thing.

mircea_popescu: ie, if you suck a major rap artist's cock (the mage) and he deigns to call you his crystal ball,

mircea_popescu: then you can make a killing selling to the wananbes

mircea_popescu: exactly how amps and shit are sold to the masses.

mircea_popescu: course that can change within five minutes, leaving you without your living.